Houserules and self-imposed limitations- Strategos

[Macilrille]

The title is self-explanatory, most houserules I have seen are for Rome, lets have one for the mighty Strategos of the Hellenistic world.

Note that I do not wish to see any "Burn Barbaropolis" posts or the like flaming, this is a serious thread. If you are here but to spam and denigate one particular faction, please remove yourself. We wish to benefit from whatever wisdom you have, not suffer from a flareup of the hopefully dead Romanoktoi spamwar on Rome;-)

That being said, I look forwards to actually benefit from your wisdom.

[Hax]

For Epeiros or Makedonia I usually have these armies.

Royal:

1x Somatophylakes Strategou
2x Chaonion Agema/Argyraspides
4x Pezhetairoi
2x Prodromoi
2x Molosson Agema/Hetairoi
2x Toxotai Kretikoi/other elite archers
2x Sphendonetai
2x Thorakitai/Thureophoroi
2x Agrianikoi Pelukophoroi
1x Elephantes Indikoi/Hypaspistai

Standard:

2x Somatophylakes Strategou
6x Pezhetairoi
2x Prodromoi
2x Lonchophoroi Hippeis
2x Toxotai/Toxotai Kretikoi/Thureophorontes Toxotai
2x (Rhodioi) Sphendonetai
2x Agrianikoi Pelukophoroi
2x Thorakitai/Thureophoroi

Gallo-Thracian [Epirote only]:

2x Celtic General
4x Taxeis Triballoi
4x Galathraikes
2x Hoplitai Keltohellenikoi
2x Sotaroas
2x Ioasotae
2x Leuce Epos
2x Brihentin

Helleno-Illyrian [Epirote only]:

2x Somatophylakes Strategou
4x Phalangitai Deuteroi
2x Illyrioi Thureophoroi
2x Hoplitai
2x Sphendonetai
4x Illyrioi Hippeis
2x Prodromoi
2x Toxotai

Houserules:

- One needs a casus belli to attack another faction
- Ceasefires should be accepted.
- The general that has conquered a city should stay there until a stable government has been established.
- The line of kingship goes by males. Should the last King have no son, then his closest male relative (of the royal line) will be announced King.
- One should always show respect and tolerance when conquering Greek cities.

[MerlinusCDXX]

AS army composition rules:

There are only 3 units of TAB in the entire Arche at any given time. Two are assigned to the Basileus, and one goes to the Kleronomos B. NO EXCEPTIONS, also, when the Bas. dies, his units must be disbanded and a new 2nd unit trained for the new Bas., and a new unit trained for the Heir. The same rule applies for Hypaspistai, except the numbers are doubled.

Elephants can only be a part of Royal Armies or the Satrap of India's army (must have the ancillary)

Hetairoi (includes the "Aspidophoroi" version) can only be used in Royal Armies and armies commanded by generals with the "Hetairos" trait. All non-qualified generals must use Lonchophoroi and Hippakontistai or local units with the same role.

Kataphraktoi can only be used by Generals who have completed at least one campaign in the East (the King and Heir are exempt from this rule).

No more than 1/3 of any army's Phalanx line can be composed of Argyraspidai and Pezhetairoi. The rest must be Klerouchoi and/ or Pantodapoi Phalangitai.

Khuveshavagan, Pahlavan Horse archers, and Mada Asabara are reserved for the Satraps of Parthava, Media, and Persia. Shipri Tukul are reserved for the Satrap of Babylonia. (Must have the respective ancillary.)

[anubis88]

My former Carthage house-rules:

- Always helped the romans to conquer south italy and start conquering sicily (Even gave them sardinia and corsica for free around 230 BC)
- Never attacked the roman mainland in any other way that carthage actually did.
- Left the inland African provinces alone, never conquered them, in time perhaps only the coastal ones
- left the ptolys alone, and just defended against them
- tryed to have most of my army in spain, and have long wars with the tribes there, but not conquer to much of the peninsula...
- Had always a very strong navy, at least until i lost sicily

hm.... should have posted this on the other thread... Oh well

[The Celtic Viking]

AS army composition rules:

There are only 3 units of TAB in the entire Arche at any given time. Two are assigned to the Basileus, and one goes to the Kleronomos B. NO EXCEPTIONS, also, when the Bas. dies, his units must be disbanded and a new 2nd unit trained for the new Bas., and a new unit trained for the Heir. The same rule applies for Hypaspistai, except the numbers are doubled.

Elephants can only be a part of Royal Armies or the Satrap of India's army (must have the ancillary)

Hetairoi (includes the "Aspidophoroi" version) can only be used in Royal Armies and armies commanded by generals with the "Hetairos" trait. All non-qualified generals must use Lonchophoroi and Hippakontistai or local units with the same role.

Kataphraktoi can only be used by Generals who have completed at least one campaign in the East (the King and Heir are exempt from this rule).

No more than 1/3 of any army's Phalanx line can be composed of Argyraspidai and Pezhetairoi. The rest must be Klerouchoi and/ or Pantodapoi Phalangitai.

Khuveshavagan, Pahlavan Horse archers, and Mada Asabara are reserved for the Satraps of Parthava, Media, and Persia. Shipri Tukul are reserved for the Satrap of Babylonia. (Must have the respective ancillary.)

I think I shall steal these ones for my upcoming AS campaign. Thank you. :2thumbsup:

[Macilrille]

I think I shall steal these ones for my upcoming AS campaign. Thank you. :2thumbsup:

That is why I created these three threads, so we can share experiences and get inspired by each other.

Eventually they could be summarised and moved to the Gameplay and AAR section is my thought.

[antisocialmunky]

House Rules? You're stuck at normal and high taxes. No low or very high after you get a decent economy going.

[Ibrahim]

ah, here I do have houserules, mostly for army regulation (note: all these armies are raised in steps, in up to 100 turns, so as not to break the treasury):

a-arche seleukeia:

army: 2 armies; one east, one west.

western one:

1xstartegos
2xthorakitai
1xElephantes Kataphraktoi
5xPezhetairoi
1xArgyraspides
2xToxotai Kretekoi or Thanvare Parsig (regularly rotated)
2xHetairoi or 1 Kataphraktoi and 1 Hetairoi
1xslinger
2xprodromoi
1xsiege weapon
1xHypaspistes
1xPeltastai Makedoniko

total: 24 units (20 in the main army, 4 rotated reserves (cavalry and archers)


eastern one:

1xstrategos
2xPeltastai
4xhorse archers
1xelephantes indikoi
4xthanvare parsig or those extra long range archers.
4xPezhetairoi
2xHetairoi or 2 Kataphraktoi
2xprodromoi or other cavalry.

total: 20 units.

as you can see, they differ dramatically, in accordance with who they have to fight. I usually gut my garrison armies to afford all this, but I think its necessary to deal with the enemies at hand-especially in Alexander AI, which is used for EB. I'm good with money, so I often raise 10,000 mnai on the first turn with ease, and in my current campaign I make 20,000 a year.


b-Makedonia:

1xstrategos
2xhetairoi
2xprodromoi
1xhypaspistai
1xpeltastai mekedonikoi
5xpezhetairoi
2xagrianikoi pelekophoroi
2xtoxotai kretikoi
2xpeltastai
1xsiege weapon
1xthureophoroi

total: 20 units


c-Ptolemioi

1xstrategos
2xklerouchoi cavalry
1xklerouchikon agema
5xpezhetairoi (or 4 pezhetairoi and 1 galatikoi klerouchoi)
2xtoxotai kretikoi
2xthorakitai
1xelephantes
2xpeltastai
1xsiege
2xprodromoi
1xgalatikoi klerouchoi

total: 20

outside of these three factions, I generally avoid hellenistic/hellenic factions. I rack up the taxes for the first 150 turns, so as to make money for the longest time. I also tax according to region and happiness, and have in fact been able to pacify my outlying provinces (lowest tax, add garrison, built sewers). so far, haven't lost a provence in my AS campaign.