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JMRC
10-25-2009, 00:12
Greetings Europa Barbarorum fans.



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Today we are proud to present the first preview of the Getai faction, who once again shall be appearing in Europa Barbarorum. The Hellenes have long feared the "barbarians" that live beyond the mountains. And well they should, for they are their distant cousins and fanatic warriors, without anything to lose other than their ethos.

An old enemy of those "civilised" cities has once more returned.



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Faction Description




Sarmis Basileus, we are your people. Yet we are divided.

The Marisus flows through our country into the Great Donaris, the river of the Argonauts. The language of the Daci is the same as that of the Getai. Among the Hellenes, however,we are better known because the migrations we make are continuous, and because we are intermingled with the Thraikes and Mysoi (Mysians). And also the tribe of the Triballoi, likewise our brothers, have admitted migrations into this country, because the neighboring peoples force them to emigrate into the country of those who are weaker; that is, the Skythai, Bastarnai and Sauromatai on the far side of the river often raid our settlements. They will be tamed--by the wolf we swear. The king of Epeiros plots from the Haimos to humiliate our ancestors. He is dangerous from the length of his sarissa spears. Tapae shall not fall and nor shall we. Skythia borders our land as far as the source of the Tyras River and the expanse of the Morsian Swamp. Their fertile lands stretch as far as the eye can see. Their warriors fight valiantly on horseback, fleeing like the wind when threatened. They should be struck with Gebeleizis's thunder delivered from our Agrinai while they fight their cousins, the Sauromatai. Where the sun sets lie the Boioi and Tauriskoi. Should the heirs of the Galatai look for another war and raid our sanctuaries again they will die from the scythed blades of Heros. We and our wild Skythian kin allowed the Hellens to build towns like Olbia and Chersonesos so we could profit from their trade. They know to fear us, even as they call us "barbaroi". We can learn from these arrogant "polis dwellers" but can they learn from us?

Their power ends at the mouth of the Donaris and from there, their end will come, shall their strategos defy us. We are destined for immortality, as Zalmoxis promised. He is our prophet and your master. Obey him and his ktistai even if the Hellenes mock him for a former helot.

Fight them in the Desert of the Getai. There Dareios the son of Hystaspes was crushed by a handful of Thraikes and Skythai. He turned back. Later on, Lysimachos, a Thraikian lapdog of Megas Alexandros, in his expedition against our late King Dromichaites, was captured alive; but he again came off safely, because he found the "barbaroi" kind-hearted. Now Makedonia uses our brothers for their armies. As I said before, Herodotos was right. Triballoi from the south and Tylis are pathetic raiders and opportunistic dogs. We grow our wheat; they steal it from their wealthier neighbors. We protect our children; they sell them as slaves to toil in Pangeos's mines. We're free like our ancestors; they're puppets to the successor of Alexandros. Their tarabostes foolishly fight each other rather than uniting for all komatai. Kogaionon, our holiest of sanctuaries has received so many messengers that the godly gates are sealed. We must be worthy of our gods before we ask for their help. Choosing a new high priest and impaling some worthy traitors should please them. Be that as it may, our people once attained very great power, so that we could actually send forth an expedition of two hundred thousand men. Now we find ourselves reduced to as few as forty thousand, spread through twenty or so tribes, scattered by the Galatai onslought with a capital in ruins and a headless koinon.

To rule like your forefathers you must unite the tribes of the Karpathoi. Treat the pilleati as equals or they'll stab you with the cold knife of treachery. Give them false dreams of plunder so you may gain them as subjects. Should you manage to unite all davas under the dracones, the world will tremble under our might. You may need to burn the Hellene wines as they flow with poison for the manliest virtues.

We are one people. We are divided.



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The faction symbol for the Getai depicts a Dracones on a wooden shield backdrop.

While the Dracones was used by Iranians and Sarmatians in combat, it is also heavily associated with the Getai, who adopted it as their battle-banner.The Dracones is curled like a Glykon serpent, ready to strike, and has a wolf's head unlike the Partho-Sarmatian ones, who used serpent heads to decorate their Dracones.

Historically the Dracones, unlike other battle-banners, had a practical role on the battlefield. For archers it pointed the direction of the wind, which allowed them to adjust their aim and increase their accuracy. For the cavalry and assault infantry, wind passing through the dracones created a low and continuous bellow, which frightened the enemy units.

The Getai likely adopted it for military purposes through contacts with the Steppe nations, such as Alazonea and Scythia, and implemented it into their own culture, changing the dragon head to a wolf's head and using local manufacturing techniques, examples of which can be seen on copper and steel ornaments from that time period, as well as other items.


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The Lands of the Getai

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The People of the Getai



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The Getians are the northern branch of the great Thracian family, inhabiting Mykra Scythia and the Karpathoi.They are also the manliest and "barbarous" of them all since they are after all in a perpetual war with any power that borderes them, be it the Galatai, the Alzones,the Hellene emporion, even Phillipos and Megas Alexandros found themselves fighting the Getai.During the Galatai migration their capital Helis was left in ruins and the rulling tribe of the koinon scattered, leaving a power vaccum.Like the Hellenes of the Pontus Euxinos, they have never been a cohesive military force, sometimes even finding the support of a foreign power in their small skrimishes.Beyond their military exploits they are pious nation, finding a common ground in their worship of a god-prophet named Zalmoxis who helped them advance their civilization and preached the immortality of the soul.


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The southern Thracians are less powerfull than the Getai and since the foundation of Tylis, have been under the yoke of the Makedones, Galatai, Hellenes and even Getai.They toiled for Phillipos, extracting gold from Pangeos, they served in Succesor armies, even following them to the distant Indos.And they're still a pround and warrior people.They worship Areos, Dionissos and Bendis-Artemis. They mourn a newborn child and cheer at funerals.They are the children of Oedip and Eumolpos, whose diplomats are accomplished singers. They once held all Greece, but now are forced to dwell in mountains too poor to satisfy their thirst for wealth.



The Warriors of the Getai
Getikoi Stratiotai (Dacian Light Phalanx)

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The tribes that came into contact with the Hellenic poleis founded on the western shores of the Pontos Euxeinos formed a distinct breed of warriors. These men were renowned for their fierceness, and all Makedonian expeditions sent against them effectively disappeared in the "Getic wasteland", while Makedonian kings like Lysimachos knew Getic captivity. Their contact with the Hellenic poleis made them well familiarized with the phalanx formation. These men are equipped with a variety of Phrygian, Chalcidian and Montefortino helmets, various types of leather armour and the thureos shield. Their main weapon is a taru spear, which is the bread-and-butter of Thacian armies, and a sica should they be forced into fighting close-quarter battles in sieges or mountain skirmishes.

Historically, Getai tribes such as the Krobyzii and the Ordes who traded with the Hellenes were heavily Hellenized. They were praised and feared as mercenaries by Odrysai and Hellenes alike.The experience they gethered during the invasion of Makedonia as well as the expeditions of Phillipos and Megas Alexandros against them proved to be a decisive into shaping their distinct battlefield role in the Getai armies and allowed them victories over both Hellenes and Romanii. Due to the more relaxed phalanx they adopted and favored by their light armor the Hellenes often engaged them against non-phalanx medium infantry, like peltastai or thureophoroi.Impressed by their prowness Herodotos wrote that these Getai were “the bravest and most righteous of all Thraikians”. Most take this to mean they were the most dogmatic of the Thraikians, fitting the religious zeal the Getai often showed later. They often showed pragmatism when dealing with the Hellenic colonies, often forcing these into a protectorate status; their direct commercial and cultural contacts with the poleis helped them to rapidly advance to high degrees of civilization, although their tribal traditions still held strong.

The Getikoi Stratiotai are dependable, phalanx-capable medium infantry, drawn from the more-Hellenized Getic tribes.




Getikoi Hippotoxotai (Dacian Horse-Archers)

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The Getai horse archers have a long and proud tradition, having developed superb skills in confrontations with the Skythai and Sauromatai. These Getai "who believe they are immortals" were the only tribes of the Thraikians whose horsemen confronted Dareios in his expedition against the Skythai in 514 BC “who resisting to the point of senselessness were immediately subdued and forced to follow the huge Persian army, even though they are the bravest and most righteous of all Threikes", as Herodotos notes.They are to be used to harass enemy infantry with endless showers of arrows, forceing them to break their formation and than vanish into the wilderness. Their sicas enable them to make swift thrusts into the enemy flanks, and run down fleeing enemies. However, one should never engage them in prolonged close quarters battle.

Historically, the Getic horsemen won the admiration of the Hellenes when they decided to engage Dareios in Mykra Skythia; and they must have won the admiration of Dareios, as after their eventual defeat, they were pressed into service within the Persian army. Their numbers were large; Thoukydides notes, referring to the great army of supposedly 150,000 men, a third of it cavalry, recruited by the Odrysian king Sitalkes: "the largest part of the cavalry was provided by the Getai." Regarding their tactics, their skill at wielding the composite bow transformed them into efficient killers while their hit-and-run tactics learnt from their Steppe cousins kept them out of harm's way.These Getai warriors are semi-nomadic shepherds and fishermen and mostly hail from the Tyragetai living in Mykra Scythia or from the Agathyrsoi living inside the arch of the Karpathia.

These mounted tribesmen are a force to be reckoned with, skilled in mounted archery, which they have learned through long years of training and frequent wars with raiders from the steppe.



Komatai (Dacian Skirmishers)

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The Komatai, also called ‘Daoi’ or ’Wolves,’ are the bread-and-butter of the Getai tribes. Unbent and untamed shepherds and farmers, they are still capable of versatile manoeuvres on the battlefield. They fight bare-headed to assure the gods of their fervor and willingness to arrive at their side. The Komatai go to battle wearing studded leather armor, baggy trousers and a thureos shield, borrowed from the Galatai who used to co-exist with them inside the Karpathian arch, before their migration which resulted in the distruction of Helis. Their weapons are a bundle of javelins and a sica, which is the Getai weapon-of-choice because of its cleaving action and light weight. They are best used as skirmishers for their traditional hit-and-run tactics and can be deadly in forests. If forced into melee they can hold their own against other light and even some medium infantry.

Historically, the Komatai were the perfect example of the transitional process of the tribal communities to a stately structure. They were free farmers and shepherds, still gathering at the tribe’s calling, but the tribe’s calling was increasingly a response to a call from a tribal union or from the Basileus himself. By the middle of the third century BC large unions of tribes had begun to fight for the hegemony in the area from the Karpathes to the Istros. The Komatai made up the vast majority of warriors, while the disparities between the Komatai and the noble Tarabostes grew to an even greater extent. The Getic warriors were renowned for their zeal in battle—it was rumored that they did not fear death because of their belief in the immortality of their souls.

Untamed warriors capable of versatile maneuvers on the battlefield, these men fight bare-headed to assure the gods of their fervor and willingness to arrive at their side.


Komatai Epilektoi (Dacian Elite Skirmishers)

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The Komatai Epilektoi are, literally, a unit of chosen Komatai, rewarded for the value shown in battle with better equipment and training. The basic komatai, equipped as fast-moving, hard-hitting skirmishers, made up a large percentage of most tribal armies, along with a number of archers and a mix of cavalry. Selected for their better equipment and superior physical abilities, the Komatai Epilektoi are a step beyond the standard Komatai. Some of them are equipped with the same studded leather armour of the Stratiotai, worn over woolen shirts. Most of these men also wear greaves under their trousers and a simple bronze montefortino helmet. They also can afford higher quality shields and better weapons: two heavier, well-made iron throwing spears and a Celtic long-sword are fairly standard. With their better equipment, they can stand in the battle line. Really, they are best used as ambushers and flankers, or for quick assaults against formations against which the other Komatai would falter. Like many other Getai units, they are vulnerable to ranged fire, especially from the flanks or rear. so be sure to screen them when conducting hit-and-run attacks.

Historically,when the Galatai migration destroyed Helis and scattered the Ordes it became clear to the Basileus that new tactics had to be employed to counter the devastating might of a Keltic army.The light sica wasn't simply a match for the heavier Keltic longsword. After previously adopting the thureos in favor of the outdated hoplon, the Getai ware forced to adopt further Keltic inovasions such as the Montefortino and longswords.The heavier equipment meant the appearance of a more permanent army, which was picked from veteran and Karpathian Komatai such as the Predavensoi and Apulii who had the required stamina to hold their own with their new equipment.These veterans had experienced the Keltic hammer and knew how to counter it.

The Komatai Epilektoi are medium infantry excelling at hand-to-hand combat. They are lighter than most medium infantry, preferring mobility over protection.


Basileus And Dracones

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Signature Banners

Feel free to use these new sig banners for the Getai fans!


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We hope you have enjoyed this preview of the Getai Faction in Europa Barbarorum II.

Please note that unless stated otherwise, ALL pictures, names, and descriptions shown in our previews are works in progress. We continue to improve on all parts of EB, and we will continue to do so long after our initial release.

Since some areas where these news items are posted cannot handle wide images, we appreciate your restraint from quoting full-size images.

As always, if you have questions or comments, the best place to post them is here, where the EB team is most active:

Europa Barbarorum ORG forum (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=70)

Europa Barbarorum TWC forum (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=31)

A special thanks to Tux for his excellent models and renders, Gustave for the wonderful unit skins and the sig banners, to -Praetor- for many new animations, to Paullus and Cronos Impera for the historical info and text work and to Cmacq for the map.

Have a great day!






Regards,

The Europa Barbarorum team.

JMRC
10-25-2009, 00:13
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The Getai in action

Getai Strategos / Draco

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Komatai

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Komatai Epilektoi

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Getikoi Hippotoxotai

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Stratiotai (Early)

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war is hell
10-25-2009, 00:15
OMG!!! awesome

Caulaincourt
10-25-2009, 00:26
Beautiful and 100 % historical, as ever.
I'm translating it immediatly.

PS : JMRC, can you send me the code of your post with pictures, because I would like to use it in my preview. And I don't know exactly how to have the tmb as yours.

SwissBarbar
10-25-2009, 00:30
Simply great! Thank you EB Team! Keep up the awesome work!

darius_d
10-25-2009, 00:35
Oh, finally! it was so much waiting...

after first look - great skins an models of presented units, but weather conditions (fog, snow, rain) do not as good effect as it should. wonderfull grass.

great job, keep up.
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Napoletana
10-25-2009, 00:37
Keep up the good work EB Team! :2thumbsup:

Can't wait until it is finally released!

A Very Super Market
10-25-2009, 00:44
*faints

Bravo EB team. Once again appearing to sway our hearts, and then retreating to the internal forum for more scheming.

darius_d
10-25-2009, 00:54
one thing - how these horse archers can shoot at enemy on their right side?
is it possible when horse runs gallop forwards?

Banzai!
10-25-2009, 00:56
err monobrows?

This is anal but is this unit anatomically correct?
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Ibrahim
10-25-2009, 00:58
sweet!!:2thumbsup:

Taliferno
10-25-2009, 01:09
These look great, good work!

bobbin
10-25-2009, 01:41
Amazing:beam:

J.R.M
10-25-2009, 02:01
Awesome! Awesome AAWEESOOMEE!!, i can´t imagine what will happen to me when the Sweboz preview appears. Hope Frontline can see this preview without his eyes spliting out his face..

Thx EB team.:smash::smash:

antisocialmunky
10-25-2009, 02:55
Nice, steppe ponies.

LOL @ missing genitalia.

Epimetheus
10-25-2009, 03:12
I'm curious, is that map of Getia indicative of the new stratmap, or is it just something conjured up for the sake of this preview? I notice this because each region seems to have exactly two "forts", and the coastal regions have one "port" specifically marked out.

Foot
10-25-2009, 04:19
I'm curious, is that map of Getia indicative of the new stratmap, or is it just something conjured up for the sake of this preview? I notice this because each region seems to have exactly two "forts", and the coastal regions have one "port" specifically marked out.

That is not representative of the strat map in game, and should be taken as nothing more than a tool to aid in the understanding of where the Getai were to be found.

The only maps that will be representative of the strap map in game are screenshots of the strat map in game.

Foot

DaciaJC
10-25-2009, 06:22
Hope Frontline can see this preview without his eyes spliting out his face..



Gah, my AAAYYYYYYSSSSS!

Seriously, I was left speechless (and with eyes as big as dinner plates :shocked2: ) by this preview... after letting out a 10-second scream of utter delight at 1:01 AM, of course. You guys surpass my expectations in every aspect. It's all so beautiful! ALL HAIL THE EB TEAM!

Ha, my beloved Getai, right here! They look so... *swoons*

a completely inoffensive name
10-25-2009, 09:24
Nice. Very nice. Well done EB team.

Ionut Alex
10-25-2009, 09:33
It is simply fantastic :shocked2::pleased:I can't believe my eyes. So nice to see your ancestors brought to live again. I guess now I know with which faction I'll start when EB is released:yes:

As always a wonderful job :applause:

ah... btw I'm quite new to this so how can i use one of the Getai Signature Banners??? Thnx in advance :)

JMRC
10-25-2009, 09:51
ah... btw I'm quite new to this so how can i use one of the Getai Signature Banners??? Thnx in advance :)

Right-click over the picture you want to use, choose properties in the menu and then select and copy the URL address. Then, choose "User CP" in the ORG forum upper menu bar and now choose "Edit Signature" in the left side menu options. In the editor, use the insert image icon in the toolbox and paste the URL that you copied. Save the signature. It should be it, unless someone knows a faster way to do it.

Aulus Caecina Severus
10-25-2009, 10:07
Very well done... thanks to great EB team:2thumbsup:

Owen Glyndwr
10-25-2009, 10:32
Excellent, excellent. I hope this is a sign of future previews to come!!

(Looking forward to my beloved Casse, for example)

Bucefalo
10-25-2009, 10:41
It´s amazing to see such an obscure faction as the getai so much fleshed out and full of historical details, and of course those awesome units.. thanks for your hard work EB team :beam:

Subotan
10-25-2009, 10:52
The EB Team does it again. Awesome work guys.

Cambyses
10-25-2009, 11:48
Amazing. Really like the dragon theme (standards etc), it brings the Getai to life.

Arkhis
10-25-2009, 11:56
Awesome previeuw, as always!

Can't wait to finally play the game!

anubis88
10-25-2009, 11:58
YEAAAAAAH!!!!!!

haha... just wanted to look the Roman Preview again and saw this new one!

AWESOME!

Tux
10-25-2009, 12:08
PS : JMRC, can you send me the code of your post with pictures, because I would like to use it in my preview. And I don't know exactly how to have the tmb as yours.
Just quote the post and you'll have the tag version of it with images address and so on.



after first look - great skins an models of presented units, but weather conditions (fog, snow, rain) do not as good effect as it should. wonderfull grass.

great job, keep up.
:kid:
Well it;s fog.~:) What's to be expected from it since it's not smoke ore something complicated:
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/Image/jkl/tree-in-fog.jpg

No rain there.~:) Just a some snow particles (http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/books/a-plus/Snowflake_300h.jpg) with motion blur but with lower quality settings so I can render those at an apropiate time since even so it took me hours to assemble the scenes and render them.

Horatius Flaccus
10-25-2009, 12:15
Amazing! Love the details in the units.

Alsatia
10-25-2009, 12:52
Beautiful! I can't believe I almost missed this. Keep it up!

Cronos Impera
10-25-2009, 13:46
In the "Making of" section I am pleased to show some images from my fieldwork to help bring you this preview.

https://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4050/dsc08230.jpg

That is me at Costesti hill fort. The ruins in the background belong to a tower dwelling from the I c. BC.

Here is a detail from the sanctuary complex we all know as Sarmiszegethuza Regia.That lady was a paranormal specialist.Unfortunately Sarmiszegethuza gets more paranormal visitors than historians and archeologists and restauration specialists.

https://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2048/dsc08189i.jpg

Here is the view from Costesti.

https://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2708/dsc08243u.jpg

APX
10-25-2009, 17:17
Amazing preview! It looks like Komotai have been nerfed...:yes:

WarpGhost
10-25-2009, 19:53
Nice. The Getai are definitely my favourite of the barbarians from EB1.

The General
10-25-2009, 20:07
Excellent preview... Much appreciated. :2thumbsup:

Curious though about the sicas, I thought they were closer to 40cm in length? The ones on these units seem closer to 20cm... Might just be me, of course.


Also noticed that basileus's sword doesn't have a handle, but it is a work in progress...

Tux
10-25-2009, 20:22
They are around 38cm.

podoh
10-25-2009, 21:12
That is not representative of the strat map in game, and should be taken as nothing more than a tool to aid in the understanding of where the Getai were to be found.

The only maps that will be representative of the strap map in game are screenshots of the strat map in game.

Foot

It may not be strictly representive, but does it show the amount of forts we can expect per region?
It would be awesome to have so many (in my opinion, off course).

-Finn-
10-25-2009, 21:21
Very nice! Glad to see this mod progressing nicely.

Ca Putt
10-25-2009, 21:41
Awesome! I will love trying to find my troops on the battle map (no really It's kind of boring to have those "WE ARE YOUR TROOPS" label you see in Vanilla and even some of the better mods for M2TW.


That is not representative of the strat map in game, and should be taken as nothing more than a tool to aid in the understanding of where the Getai were to be found.

The only maps that will be representative of the strap map in game are screenshots of the strat map in game.
so you're not changing the province borders and add an extra region in the Thracian area? and you're not renaming the Getic capital to Argedava?

Foot
10-25-2009, 23:08
It may not be strictly representive, but does it show the amount of forts we can expect per region?
It would be awesome to have so many (in my opinion, off course).


so you're not changing the province borders and add an extra region in the Thracian area? and you're not renaming the Getic capital to Argedava?

What we are and are not doing with regards to the map is not the content of this preview, and the map shown in it cannot be seen as a preview of what will eventually appear on the strategy map of EBII.

Foot

The General
10-26-2009, 00:31
It may not be strictly representive, but does it show the amount of forts we can expect per region?
It would be awesome to have so many (in my opinion, off course).

Nine sieges for three provinces is awesome?

With TW pathfinding?

bobbin
10-26-2009, 01:08
I'm pretty sure you can only have one PSF per province.

seienchin
10-26-2009, 01:26
Wow. EBII has a really realistic look. :2thumbsup:
But still, I see some problems with distuingishing units from each other coming. Like in IBII which is nearly unplayable because of its realism:furious3:

Belisarius II
10-26-2009, 03:18
Well those units are much better than I expected, especially how the shadows fall on the unit, gives it a more realistic look.

Bucefalo
10-26-2009, 13:00
After the initial shock, i reread the preview and i had one doubt. There is one unit called Basileus, i dont know if he is the king or faction leader, or it is just a general?

Later there is a screenshot of the Basileus but this time he is on foot with a unit not on horse, so, do the getai basileus fight on foot, like the sweboz one of EB? and, is that unit he is inside his bodyguard, or just another unit?

Thanks in advance. :2thumbsup:

-Praetor-
10-26-2009, 13:24
For now, he is the provisional basileus, and will represent the getai king, family member and general. That for the first release.

Later on, we will make a proper basileus, and downgrade this guy to captain.

He is currently fighting on foot inside the late stratiotai (provisional bodyguard), until we make a definitive getai bodyguard (the old philakes daoi).

Cute Wolf
10-26-2009, 13:49
More Preview... I'm getting soooooo excitteeddddd..........

Great work as always EB team..... Keep up! :thumbsup:

Macilrille
10-26-2009, 18:00
Very nice, you guys are churning them out, nice- very nice.

Is it me or are things speeding up? (he said hopefully).

I sptted two typos, pround instead of proud and onslought instead of onslaught.

BerkeleyBoi
10-26-2009, 19:09
Wow, great stuff!

Scipio Germanicus
10-26-2009, 19:23
My heart leaps with joy at the new preview. :2thumbsup:

WarpGhost
10-27-2009, 00:28
I'm pretty sure you can only have one PSF per province.

What is PSF? I've seen it used before (something about a quasi-settlement?).

A Very Super Market
10-27-2009, 02:24
Yes, a permanent fort. Quasi-settlement in that it simulates other towns in the region and can be defended as such.

Eastern Foot-Rocker
10-27-2009, 09:20
Really nice stuff! And the grass looks amazing!!!
But I hope there will be some heavier infantry for the Getai. And I hope there will be some stone roads for this faction.

Tretii
10-27-2009, 11:36
Kudos for EB team for amazing work!:2thumbsup:

Ludens
10-27-2009, 20:49
What is PSF? I've seen it used before (something about a quasi-settlement?).

PSF means permanent stone fort. It's a feature in the Britannia campaign of the Kingdoms expansion. Instead of giving the player the ability to build temporary wooden forts, like in R:TW and EB1, the campaign map starts out with many permanent stone forts already in place. These forts do not collapse when abandoned and are more tricky to storm. However you cannot build new ones, or raze old ones for that matter, so you need to keep them garrisoned to prevent the A.I. from taking over*. On the plus side, the first two units garrisoned in a PSF will be free of upkeep.

* At least, this happens if the A.I. gets its act together. But my limited experience with the Britannia campaign suggests that the A.I. treats them as if they were the old, temporary, wooden forts.

Visarion
10-27-2009, 21:01
nice work! but what about the falx? the most important weapon of the Dacians? or romphaia for the Thracians? They fought with spears, javelins, falxes and one sided battle axes... the Phrygian and Sarmatian helmets?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian_warfare

I selected:

The phalx was similar to a large sickle and came in two variants: a shorter, one-handed falx called a sica, and a longer two-handed version. The two-handed falx was a polearm. It consisted of a three-feet long wooden shaft with a long curved iron blade of nearly-equal length attached to the end. The blade was sharpened only on the inside, and was reputed to be devastatingly effective. However, it left its user vulnerable because, being a two-handed weapon, the warrior could not also make use of a shield. Alternatively, it might be used as a hook, pulling away shields and cutting at vulnerable limbs.

Using the falx, the Dacian warriors were able to counter the power of the compact, massed Roman formations. During the time of the Roman conquest of Dacia (101 - 102, 105 - 106), legionaries had reinforcing iron straps applied to their helmets. The Romans also introduced the use of leg and arm protectors (greaves and manica) as further protection against the falxes.

Dacians that could afford armor wore customised Phrygian type helmets with solid crests (intricately decorated), domed helmets and Sarmatian helmets. They fought with spears, javelins, falxes, one sided battle axes and used "Draco" Carnyxe's as standards. Most used only shields as a form of defense. Cavalry would be armed with a spear, a long bronze La Tene sword and an oval shield.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhomphaia

The romphaia
It was a variant of the Dacian Falx. Most rhomphaias were polearms, featuring a straight or slightly curved single-edged blade attached to a pole that was considerably longer than the blade. Some rhomphaias had short handles that extended to only the length of the blade. Although the rhomphaia was similar to the Falx, most archaeological evidence suggests that rhomphaias were forged with straight or slightly curved blades, presumably to enable their use as both a thrusting and slashing weapon. The blade itself was constructed of iron and used a triangular cross section to accommodate the single cutting edge with a tang of rectangular cross section. Length varied, but a typical rhomphaia would have a blade of approximately 60–80 cm and a tang of approximately 50 cm. From the length of the tang, it can be presumed that when attached to the hilt, this portion of the weapon would be of similar length to the blade.

Usage
Used almost exclusively by the Thracians, examples have been found dating from 300-400 B.C. As a weapon, the rhomphaia was feared (like the Falx) because of the cutting power afforded to it by the polearm like design. The rhomphaia forced the only documented change in Roman armour brought about by an encounter with a new weapon. After encountering the Falx in Dacia, the Romans added extra reinforcing bars to their helmets to protect against the powerful blows of this weapon.

Differences from the falx
The rhomphaia's blade was straight or only slightly curved, while the falx's blade was significantly curved. Because its straighter blade facilitated a thrusting motion and an overhead or sidewards hacking motion, the rhomphaia could be used by tightly packed troops as a defensive weapon. However, the straighter blade limited the use of the cutting edge.

Maybe some units with single handed and two handed falx... and romphaia... in the future... and some armor especially shields (wood covered with leather) and intricated bronze helmets for Thracians at list...

I am from Romania, a Romanian, Dacians were my ancestors...

Anyway nice work! nice units! :)

thx

-Praetor-
10-27-2009, 21:14
What makes you think we will show you a faction's best units on its first preview?

Of course we are going to have falxmen in EBII. Can you imagine the Getai without Drapanai? It's like speaking of Celts without Gasaetae, or Celtiberians without Dunaminaca...

Just be patient.

Ludens
10-27-2009, 21:17
You didn't think the Getai will only get 4 units, did you? Off course there will be falxmen.

Visarion
10-27-2009, 21:25
thx :) I feel much better now!

Tux
10-27-2009, 21:38
Of course we are going to have falxmen in EBII. Can you imagine the Getai without Drapanai? It's like speaking of Celts without Gasaetae, or Celtiberians without Dunaminaca...

Just be patient.
You really like that example, don't you?:tongue2:

Iskander 3.1
10-27-2009, 23:03
:jawdrop: wow!

Brennus
10-28-2009, 11:16
Excellent unit previews, especially the Dracones, can't wait to see the Celtic previews!.... One small thing though (calm down Getai fans I only ask out of curiousity not to pick holes in your faction or inflate an ego) but isn't the symbol at either end of the second Komatai's shield a Pictish symbol?

paullus
10-28-2009, 15:08
You mean the crescent?

Brennus
10-28-2009, 15:39
Aye, the cresent with the two "branches" coming out of it. It looks very similar to a Pictish symbol the only difference being the cresent is larger in relation to the "branches" whilst one of the "branches" ends in an arrow point rather than spirals. If you look up Pictish carved stones you should find it fairly easy.

paullus
10-28-2009, 19:59
that's iconography used in far more than a pictish context. no worries.

Mister V
10-29-2009, 11:02
The more previews I see, the more I'm worried about EB2.

The reason is that I'm probably just going to stare at the units instead of managing the battle :no:

G. Septimus
10-29-2009, 14:07
The more previews I see, the more I'm worried about EB2.

The reason is that I'm probably just going to stare at the units instead of managing the battle :no:
yeah, me to-
I'm gonna be confused about the faction that i"ll use first:dizzy2:
well, when there's gonna be more previews- I'll find my favorite in EB2:book:
I hope it's gonna be a good gane:2thumbsup:

Iron Fist
10-30-2009, 18:01
Most excellent preview. Very good quality and I simply can't wait for such units like Pahlava Late Cataphracts and bodyguard.:dizzy2:

Leão magno
10-31-2009, 11:19
Impessive as usual... makes me eager to start playing EBII. Congratulations on your hard work

paullus
10-31-2009, 16:27
Thanks for the comments, and I understand what a couple of y'all are saying. Gustave's work has been so good I forget to do unit research and just stare at his skins, of which he completes more seemingly every day.

Visarion
10-31-2009, 18:13
Dacia was ruled by two great kings:
Burebista (82 ad - 44 ad) who united all the thracian tribes in what is now Romania. In this region used to live thracian, iranian, germanic and celtic tribes. The greeks had colonies at Pontus Euxinus. He fought against the celtic tribes: boii, taurisci and scordisci and defeated them. He conquered greek cities at Pontus Euxinus and had military campaigns in Illyria and Macedon. He ruled one of the greatest emipres of the time from the Pannonian plains to the Black Sea. Burebista was feared by the Romans because he had an army of 100.000 men. Because he had too much power the nobles assassinated him in 44 ad. During the same year Cezar, the emperor of Rome was assassinated too... Two great men died in that year... question mark...
http://www.iatp.md/istorie/romana/antica/burebista.jpg
Decebalus per Scorilo (86 ad - 106 ad) who fought the Romans defeating the emperor Domitian who after the peace treaty sent him craftsmen, weapons and armour and war machines such as balistas, onagers etc. Marcus Ulpius Nerva Traianus (98 ad- 117 ad) attacked Dacia for its gold. After two wars in Dacia (101-102, 105-106) {with heavy loses} he managed to conquer the south-central part of what is now Romania. Decebalus had the famous falxmen who teached the Romans a hard lesson of warfare and tarabostes, Dacian nobles. He was allied with the germanic bastarnae and buri tribes and with roxolani, an iranian tribe. Roxolani with their cataphracts helped the Dacians many times before. Decebalus used roxolani cataphractari. Tacitus describes them: they and their horses wore scale mail armour and each had a spear called conti and wielded a sword called gladius.
In that area there were about 9000 cataphracts.

I wonder is it possible for roxolani cataphractari to be recruitable in Getai settlements in EB II? There are historical evidence that roxolani fought alongside Dacians or Getai as Greeks called them in more than one occasions... just think about it! :) thx

Oh and one more thing I read that Thracians (Getai are included) had composite scale mail armour similar to the Skythians, golden helmets (the tarabostes - nobles) and a great variety of weapons such as: falx (two handed, single handed - sica), romphaia, swords, hand axes, two handed axes, throwing axes - the Scythian axe, spears, slings, javelins, bows etc, shields, manica. greaves, cloaks etc. I don't have enough evidence to suggest throwing axemen... yet... :D

EB rulls! :)

Cronos Impera
10-31-2009, 18:47
First of all:
Sarmatian/Skytian units will be available AOR to the Getai if they conquer certain provinces just like they do now but Sarmatian federati would not be recruitable in Getia/Getia Koile proper because they are like 300 years earlier. Skythian basic units such as archers, HA would be recruitable in places like Olbia for instance.
But this is 272 BC Getai, not 100 AD Getai.

But you could still reconstruct the fall of Sarmisegetuza with the EB 1 rooster with a little imagination and tweaking since the basic outline of the Getai/Romani armies over time stayed the same.

Secondly,
Bine ai venit in Dacia.

Andronikos
10-31-2009, 21:11
Celtiberians without Dunaminaca...


You really like that example, don't you?:tongue2:

Is this really what it seems to be? :2thumbsup:


BTW awesome preview

podoh
11-01-2009, 15:54
Nine sieges for three provinces is awesome?

With TW pathfinding?

Well, you can look at it that way.

But:
1) I like to roleplay that I don't take a whole province at once; that when I've conquered the capital I still need to subdue several other parts of the province.
(For example: I don't build mines when I don't really control the part of the province they're in.)
2) I hardly ever assault cities/forts. I wait till the siege time runs out, which results in a surrender or a field battle.

So for my style of playing, 2 forts per province = awesome. Especially if those forts would represent real historical settlements.

Imperator Invictus
11-01-2009, 16:26
great work eb2 team!!! :2thumbsup:

but, .....I haven't seen the costobocian infantry, the axe wielders from the northern tribes of carpians and costobocians, who fight against fierce bastarnae

without them the getai aren't getai :no:

Ludens
11-01-2009, 17:12
but, .....I haven't seen the costobocian infantry, the axe wielders from the northern tribes of carpians and costobocians, who fight against fierce bastarnae

without them the getai aren't getai :no:

As implied in previous posts, this preview contains only part of the Getai unit roster.

Cronos Impera
11-01-2009, 17:18
You've seen only a bit of the faction and unit rooster.
SO In a preview we only post fragments of the picture like a hetaira slowly peels away her clothes.

Visarion
11-01-2009, 17:56
Some examples of Dacian (Getai) helmets:

Royal Dacian Gold Helmet (Cotofanesti, Romania):
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs134.snc1/5740_126684304556_122622444556_2288264_5210496_n.jpg

Other Dacian (Getai) Helmets:

https://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh270/arnspac/Dacian/HelmetAL.png

http://dacia.z1.ro/armata/armamentul_04.jpg

It would be nice to be used for Tarabostes (Getai nobles) or other elite units! :)

Tux
11-01-2009, 18:49
You've seen only a bit of the faction and unit rooster.
SO In a preview we only post fragments of the picture like a hetaira slowly peels away her clothes.
You like roosters, don't you?:tongue2:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xwE0rBDpg1Y/SWc2RUtib0I/AAAAAAAADBQ/mlCn5gvF4FI/s320/funny-cat-riding-chicken.jpg

Fluvius Camillus
11-01-2009, 20:20
Great job, looks awesome, again, the waiting is even harder!~D

~Fluvius

The General
11-01-2009, 20:23
Well, you can look at it that way.

But:
1) I like to roleplay that I don't take a whole province at once; that when I've conquered the capital I still need to subdue several other parts of the province.
(For example: I don't build mines when I don't really control the part of the province they're in.)
2) I hardly ever assault cities/forts. I wait till the siege time runs out, which results in a surrender or a field battle.

So for my style of playing, 2 forts per province = awesome. Especially if those forts would represent real historical settlements.

I like to roleplay that by winning field battles (and thus forcing enemy armies to retreat towards safety/into settlements) my armies take over land, even if the game can't simulate that. (I love the Europa Universalis system of controlling/owning provinces and peace negotiations...) For example, when my Aedui army crossed Tiber and defeated a Roman army at the other side, my army "took over" the areas north of Rome as the opposing army retreated behind the city walls.

I, too, very rarely assault fortresses/settlements, but that's because I absolutely detest x:TW siege battles. The path finding is horrendous, unmanned (!) towers slaughter warriors by the dozens and even the peasant-iest levies are ready to fight to death for the [town] Square. While sally battles are not as horrible as assaults, it's quite annoying to wait for those exhausted 5-man units run back to you from the town square (unless you manage to rout the whole enemy army at the same instance). *Rant rant rant*

If only, if only field battles could (be it temporarily) move borders. :whip:

WinsingtonIII
11-02-2009, 00:51
This is so beautiful. EB team, you have done great work as always. The units look stunning, and I'm really liking the province description buildings for each province. They add a lot of depth and are very interesting.

Just in case the unit descriptions posted here are to be the unit descriptions in-game, I just thought I'd point out a typo so it isn't there in-game. In the Komatai description, it says "the distruction of Helis" when it should be "destruction." Just letting you know.

Visarion
11-02-2009, 10:07
Yesterday I started a new campaign in EB with the Getai and I took a look at the units and you now what you did a great job then and I am convinced you'll do a great job now! :)

Gustave
11-02-2009, 11:46
SO In a preview we only post fragments of the picture like a hetaira slowly peels away her clothes.

:laugh4: Man you made my day !

Skullheadhq
11-02-2009, 13:56
You've seen only a bit of the faction and unit rooster.
SO In a preview we only post fragments of the picture like a hetaira slowly peels away her clothes.

Uhm....like fragmented porn, this is only confusing lol, why would porn be fragmented? :clown:
but :focus: now, and the rooster is an old joke, mkay?

Tux
11-02-2009, 15:58
Yes it is.
https://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/Power2the1/SwebozRooster.jpg

Figure out how this sig appeared...

ziegenpeter
11-02-2009, 16:20
Why the rooster anyway? To me its rather linked to the Gauls for an obvious reason.

bobbin
11-02-2009, 17:05
I'm very proud of my rooster.

Tux
11-02-2009, 17:24
Why the rooster anyway? To me its rather linked to the Gauls for an obvious reason.
Like above, someone in the Sweboz department made an typo. Rooster instead of roster(unit roster).

You should be.:grin:

paullus
11-03-2009, 17:11
Visarion, we won't be including the ceremonial silver and gold helmets on units, as they were most likely, as I wrote, ceremonial and only ceremonial. however, they do offer helpful iconographic aids for the Getai. On the several such helmets, we see helpful artistic motifs and several representations of armored Getic warriors. As for the last of the helmets you posted, that particular one has kinda puzzled me. I wonder whether the reconstruction is faulty. The pieces seem related to other Daco-Getic helmets and helmet fragments, but it is an odd looking piece of armor that doesn't quite match the others. Maybe MeinPanzer will see this and offer his thoughts.

TheTank
11-03-2009, 20:43
Like above, someone in the Sweboz department made an typo. Rooster instead of roster(unit roster).


:embarassed:

ARCHIPPOS
11-05-2009, 06:44
you guys on the EB team, never seize to amaze me :)

Kikaz
11-12-2009, 02:26
you guys on the EB team, never seize to amaze me :)

We should hope they don't seize :no: that would be bad...

Visarion
11-12-2009, 13:08
I made a research on Getai Helmets and I found the most famous helmets discovered in Romania. They date from about IV-III century BC. At most of the Getai helmets you can see this symbols: an eagle with a fish in it's beac and a rabbit or baby boar in one of his clows and / or a stag or a deer. This symbols were universal amongst the many tribes of the Getai. They chose this symbols because they were great hunters! This symbols and helmets were unique, without any influnce from Greeks. Alexander the Great, king of Macedon had a military campaign in Getai regions. From that point on both nations had major influences on each other.

And Paullus this helmets weren’t ceremonial they were worn by Getai kings so maybe the faction leader could wear the royal gold Cotofanesti helmet…
PS: the tip is missing!

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs134.snc1/5740_126684304556_122622444556_2288264_5210496_n.jpg

http://www.enciclopedia-dacica.ro/armata_daca/coifuri_04.jpg

Type of helmets discovered in Romania:

Scythic ceremonial helmet:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/R3-DrnBgEbI/AAAAAAAAAF0/okYGIFauSCU/s1600/coif-ceremonial-scitic-5ovq1.jpg

Celtic

Coif Silivas

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/Rz1oqdOPfqI/AAAAAAAAAEE/gXJZ5RRT3q0/s1600/coif%2BSilivas.jpg

Coif Ciumesti (fans of the Celts will be delighted to see this piece of work! it's art!) ;) very nice:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/R3-DQXBgEaI/AAAAAAAAAFs/CY5zJX0JH7E/s1600/ciumesti-wxl7o.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/RxC4R813xiI/AAAAAAAAABM/kShPcqTFkLM/s1600/69676.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/RxzNuc13xzI/AAAAAAAAADU/JlG5njO99dY/s1600/celt.jpg

http://mattyusha.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/razboinic.jpg?w=514&h=325

http://www.satumare.insse.ro/phpfiles/1098608537_1_2059946589.jpg

Greek-Illyrian

Coif Ocna Mures, jud. Alba

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/Rx4ahc13x0I/AAAAAAAAADc/IivrVw3IFdw/s1600/mare_coif.jpg

Thraco-dacian (the most are royal helmets):

Coif Cucuteni Baiceni

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/Rxbs-c13xwI/AAAAAAAAAC8/RSwMm_KOsHY/s1600/coifcucuteni%2Bbaiceni.jpg

Coif Popesti

Bronze

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/Rxbsb813xvI/AAAAAAAAAC0/dSzT9GyPnNU/s1600/coif%2Bpopesti.jpg

It is unique, very rare... it protected the nose of the wearer... It was discovered at Popesti in a tomb of a warrior together with his armour, shield, weapons and belongings!

Coif Portile de Fier

Silver

You can see the stag a Getai symbol:

http://www.enciclopedia-dacica.ro/armata_daca/coifuri_05.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/RxC4CM13xhI/AAAAAAAAABE/LYRav-CCk5M/s1600/coif_sigla.jpg

Coif Poiana Cotofanesti

Gold

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/RxzMps13xxI/AAAAAAAAADE/kqz1mmmSNEw/s1600/ARH_7300100_8-1.jpg

Coif Pereteu

Silver with golden symbols

The other Getai symbol: an eagle with a fish in his beac and a rabbit or baby boar in one of his clows:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/RxzNF813xyI/AAAAAAAAADM/I-TFXt6FCQ0/s1600/peretu.jpg

http://www.cjteleorman.ro/ro/judet/harta/photos/Coiful%20de%20argint%20aurit(sec.%20IV%20i.Hr),Peretu.jpg

Coif Agighiol, jud. Tulcea (where I live :))

Silver

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/RxC3G813xdI/AAAAAAAAAAk/ffsfhZzuevA/s1600/11181.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/RxC3BM13xcI/AAAAAAAAAAc/QKXtdfP3skA/s1600/73865.jpg

Thracian

Bronze

Coif Gaveni, jud. Braila

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/RxC31813xgI/AAAAAAAAAA8/B-CJvK1ZKoE/s1600/ARH_6916500_29-41.jpg

Coif Bubuteni, jud. Giurgiu

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/RxC3uM13xfI/AAAAAAAAAA0/KTJl31w_TBY/s1600/ARH_7300100_2-59.jpg

Hellenistic

Coif Budesti, jud. Calarasi

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7S-0oWrx8aQ/RxC3j813xeI/AAAAAAAAAAs/XV-gxJtSkxc/s1600/ARH_7083500_161-3.jpg

Burebista the greatest of the Getai kings

http://mattyusha.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/regele-burebista-in-medalionul-112.jpg?w=199&h=300

Getai art:

some works of art are from the Odrysian kingdom, a Thracian kingdom and were discovered in Bulgaria...

the others were discovered in Romania, the Dacian kingdom...

http://pro.corbis.com/images/IH074869.jpg?size=67&uid=1F675F2D-E48F-42B9-A88A-090A01A32208 - 7th-6th century B.C.

http://mattyusha.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/aplica-descoperita-la-letnica.jpg?w=275&h=309

http://mattyusha.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/cnemida-descoperita-la-vraca.jpg?w=244&h=550

http://mattyusha.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/leu-sfartecand-o-caprioara-aplica-descoperita-la-borovo.jpg?w=366&h=266 very nice

http://mattyusha.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/vase-din-necropola-de-la-borovo.jpg?w=205&h=354 horse and ox cups :)

http://mattyusha.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/rhyton-de-aur-tezaurul-de-la-panaghiuriste1.jpg?w=550&h=533 I say let's take a drink to the Getai ;)

http://www.cjteleorman.ro/ro/judet/harta/photos/slide0009_image086.jpg

http://www.cjteleorman.ro/ro/judet/harta/photos/Fibula%20digitala.jpg

http://www.cjteleorman.ro/ro/judet/harta/photos/Carul%20solar%20de%20bronz%20si%20fier%20de%20%20la%20Bujoru.jpg and many others...

Dacian warrior:

http://mattyusha.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/capetenie-geto-daca-din-secolul-i-i-h.jpg?w=417&h=567

Thracian warrior:

http://mattyusha.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/razboinic-trac.jpg?w=429&h=624

I hope I made a good job! 

Tarabostes:

http://dacia.z1.ro/armata/tarabostes_02.jpg

Tarabostes indeed wore hats to show their status but in war they wore helmets! ;)

Shields:

http://dacia.z1.ro/armata/scut.jpg

http://dacia.z1.ro/armata11.html

Weapons:

dagger (from Vulgar Latin daca meaning Dacian knife)

http://dacia.z1.ro/armata/armamentul_20.jpg

http://www.geticagame.com/images/art/falx.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/AdamclisiMetope32.jpg/450px-AdamclisiMetope32.jpg

Warmachines:

http://dacia.z1.ro/armata/armamentul_08.jpg

http://dacia.z1.ro/armata/armamentul_14.jpg

http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/war/CatImages/Ballista.jpg

http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/Homework/romans/images/ballista.jpg

Decebalus per Scorilo (Decebalus the son of Scorilo)

http://quadratus.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/decebal_11.jpg

PS: coif means helmet in Romanian! :)

The area was famous for it's gold and silver and it still is...

Gustave
11-12-2009, 13:21
Great pictures man. I already knew some of them, but you did a good research work.

Ionut Alex
11-17-2009, 23:26
True very well done I can say I discovered new things myself

-42-
11-25-2009, 06:06
Just a little curious about which animations you are going to you for the Falx, as the standard 2 handed sword animation may not fit in precisely with how the weapon was used.

-Praetor-
11-26-2009, 15:32
We will customize that animation, mainly the strikes (the predominantely downward cutting strikes of the falx), but other anims have got priority first, so they will probably not be in the first release.

But they are on the to-do list. :beam:

duci
10-29-2010, 19:23
La Iordanes, tara Getia avea 4 regate: 1. Cauconi in Moldova, vezi apropierea Neamtului de Ceahlau (Kogaion). Bistrita/Siret==Plutasi 2. Daci(Draci==Taifali) in jurul Clujului. Curtea regala in jurul Clujului. Feleacul = "munte sfant" (Valeac >>>Valachia>>>Olahi). De ei tinea secuimea (Dacia veche)-vezi ca acolo este un vulcan si probabil vracii daci faceau medicina cu ce era acolo (apa sulfuroase=apa moarta, apa vie= apa minerala cu mal sa). "Historical Odin cu saga ale sale"==Eddas zice de Valasjijalf(adica Cluj) si ca Scitia mare==Romania de azi 3.Vizigoti(Getii de vaza Greutungii) in banat(banatele Ro+sarbesc+Oltenia). Capitala la DEVA=Argedava lui Burebista- nu la Pitesti, bai termale la Goagiu. 4. Ostrogoti de la Olt la Siret si la Dunare. Capitala la Fagaras (Galtis), pe Olt.

Paltmull
10-29-2010, 19:59
Come again?

DaciaJC
10-30-2010, 01:36
La Iordanes, tara Getia avea 4 regate: 1. Cauconi in Moldova, vezi apropierea Neamtului de Ceahlau (Kogaion). Bistrita/Siret==Plutasi 2. Daci(Draci==Taifali) in jurul Clujului. Curtea regala in jurul Clujului. Feleacul = "munte sfant" (Valeac >>>Valachia>>>Olahi). De ei tinea secuimea (Dacia veche)-vezi ca acolo este un vulcan si probabil vracii daci faceau medicina cu ce era acolo (apa sulfuroase=apa moarta, apa vie= apa minerala cu mal sa). "Historical Odin cu saga ale sale"==Eddas zice de Valasjijalf(adica Cluj) si ca Scitia mare==Romania de azi 3.Vizigoti(Getii de vaza Greutungii) in banat(banatele Ro+sarbesc+Oltenia). Capitala la DEVA=Argedava lui Burebista- nu la Pitesti, bai termale la Goagiu. 4. Ostrogoti de la Olt la Siret si la Dunare. Capitala la Fagaras (Galtis), pe Olt.

According to Jordanes [Gothic historian], Getia had four regate : 1. the Cauconi in Moldava [today a small nation bordering Romania to the east; I'm not sure if he's referring to the same place], seen [?] near Kogaionon [the Getic holy mountain]. Bistrita/Siret==Plutasi [referring to the names of a river; see here (http://duci.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~98.asp)] 2. Daci (Dragons==Taifali) [probably referring to the symbol of the Taifals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taifals)] in the area of Cluj [modern day Romanian metropolis]. [I]Curtea regala [they ruled?] in the area of Cluj. Feleacul = "holy mountain" (Valeac[?]>>>Wallachia>>>Olahi[?]). From them came [?] secuimea [maybe referring to Szekely Land (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sz%C3%A9kely_Land)?] (old Dacia)-you can see that there is a volcano there and probably the Dacian healers made medicine with what was available in the area (sulfuric water="dead" water, "living" water = mineral water with sea sa sare - salt]; see Apa Vie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apa_Vie)). "Historical Odin with his saga"==Eddas (perhaps referring to Edda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edda)?] says from Valaskjalf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valaskj%C3%A1lf) (that is, Cluj) and that greater Scythia==the Romania of today. 3.Visigoths (the Getae of the Greuthungi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greuthungi)) in Banat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banat) (the Romanian, Serbian, and Oltenian portions). The capital was at Burebista's Argedava, not at Pitesti, thermal baths at Goagiu. 4. Ostrogoths of the Olt, Siret, and Danube rivers. Capital at Fagaras (Galtis) on the Olt River.

My best attempt. It's a shame when one can't speak the language of his native country fluently. :shame:

Captain Trek
11-03-2010, 10:11
We will customize that animation, mainly the strikes (the predominantely downward cutting strikes of the falx), but other anims have got priority first, so they will probably not be in the first release.

But they are on the to-do list.

Hmm... I guess the animations for the English billmen were no good, huh?

Kikaz
11-05-2010, 19:40
According to Jordanes [Gothic historian], Getia had four regate : 1. the Cauconi in Moldava [today a small nation bordering Romania to the east; I'm not sure if he's referring to the same place], seen [?] near Kogaionon [the Getic holy mountain]. Bistrita/Siret==Plutasi [referring to the names of a river; see here (http://duci.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~98.asp)] 2. Daci (Dragons==Taifali) [probably referring to the symbol of the Taifals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taifals)] in the area of Cluj [modern day Romanian metropolis]. [I]Curtea regala [they ruled?] in the area of Cluj. Feleacul = "holy mountain" (Valeac[?]>>>Wallachia>>>Olahi[?]). From them came [?] secuimea [maybe referring to Szekely Land (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sz%C3%A9kely_Land)?] (old Dacia)-you can see that there is a volcano there and probably the Dacian healers made medicine with what was available in the area (sulfuric water="dead" water, "living" water = mineral water with sea sa sare - salt]; see Apa Vie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apa_Vie)). "Historical Odin with his saga"==Eddas (perhaps referring to Edda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edda)?] says from Valaskjalf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valaskj%C3%A1lf) (that is, Cluj) and that greater Scythia==the Romania of today. 3.Visigoths (the Getae of the Greuthungi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greuthungi)) in Banat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banat) (the Romanian, Serbian, and Oltenian portions). The capital was at Burebista's Argedava, not at Pitesti, thermal baths at Goagiu. 4. Ostrogoths of the Olt, Siret, and Danube rivers. Capital at Fagaras (Galtis) on the Olt River.

My best attempt. It's a shame when one can't speak the language of his native country fluently. :shame:

At least you only gotta learn one! I've got like 6 on my list of languages to learn.

Ayce
11-08-2010, 19:07
La Iordanes, tara Getia avea 4 regate: 1. Cauconi in Moldova, vezi apropierea Neamtului de Ceahlau (Kogaion). Bistrita/Siret==Plutasi 2. Daci(Draci==Taifali) in jurul Clujului. Curtea regala in jurul Clujului. Feleacul = "munte sfant" (Valeac >>>Valachia>>>Olahi). De ei tinea secuimea (Dacia veche)-vezi ca acolo este un vulcan si probabil vracii daci faceau medicina cu ce era acolo (apa sulfuroase=apa moarta, apa vie= apa minerala cu mal sa). "Historical Odin cu saga ale sale"==Eddas zice de Valasjijalf(adica Cluj) si ca Scitia mare==Romania de azi 3.Vizigoti(Getii de vaza Greutungii) in banat(banatele Ro+sarbesc+Oltenia). Capitala la DEVA=Argedava lui Burebista- nu la Pitesti, bai termale la Goagiu. 4. Ostrogoti de la Olt la Siret si la Dunare. Capitala la Fagaras (Galtis), pe Olt.

Seems like a lot of babbling - mixing in dacians, szekely, proto-germans, goths in an incoherent I don't know what. Claiming that Ceahlău massif is Kogaion (Ceahlău being in the Oriental Carpathians, rather than the Meridional C.), royal Dacian court in the area of Cluj (Napoca), equating visigoths with a branch of dacians, Deva as Argedava instead of near Pitești (Deva isn't even on the Argeș, or the right side of the Carpathians). Bad Romanian is some sections too.

Vlixes
07-10-2012, 00:58
Is there any chance to get the images again? None of the units images is available now.
Edit: reviewed the romanii previews and they have the same problem. Also, if there is anything I can do to solve the problem, count with my help. I see that the "All previews in one thread" has not been updated since 2008, IF I can do something with that, please don't hesitate to tell me. Best. Quetzalcóatl.

Moros
07-10-2012, 01:12
There haven't been new posts, but the post should be updated. Normally all the non stickied preveiws should be in there.

I'll check about the images.

Vlixes
07-10-2012, 01:18
Thanks Moros. I saw later that the "All previews in one thread" has been updated by Xsamatan, but to acknowledge that I had to look at the end of the thread itself. Best.

Moros
07-16-2012, 17:53
Thanks Moros. I saw later that the "All previews in one thread" has been updated by Xsamatan, but to acknowledge that I had to look at the end of the thread itself. Best.
No problem.