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Major Robert Dump
11-12-2009, 01:33
Assuming my version of the puzzle is correct, Things aren't looking so hot for the Medkevs

pevergreen
11-12-2009, 02:54
Round extended for 8 hours and 6 minutes from now, to accomodate for database downtimes.

Tsurani armour is made of hides, they don't have metal to use for something as trivial as studs in leather armour, which they do not use either.

scottishranger
11-12-2009, 03:02
Hmm, interesting results from this round. Why would a doctor type role protect khazaar? Somethings not adding up.


In any event, since we need a second lynch, i suppose Vote: Iskander 3.1 sounds good. I wonder what your doing if your not with Kukri?

pevergreen
11-12-2009, 08:31
2 hours 29 minutes

Andres
11-12-2009, 11:23
Vote : Khazaar

pevergreen
11-12-2009, 11:45
Khazaar had been nominated as the next to die. He, however, did not seem resigned to his fate, but had a slight smile. His final move had played out.

The courtyard was surrounded by hundreds of troops. To the left, Orange and Black of the Minwanabi. To the right, Green of the Acoma. Absent, was the former house of the Anasati.

spL1tp3r50naL1ty stood at the front, as deemed by his station. He paused, as his command for death was not executed.

"No."

Khazaar's smile had extended.

"I think not Ichindar. I served on Midkemia against the barbarians, as second in command to the Warlord. I believe you have lost all honour. You will die today."

The shouts of approval from the soldiers were deafening. Khazaar moved up, thanking his blood enemy, Mara, with a slight nod.

"You know what must be done Ichindar. I will marry your daughter and become the 92nd Emperor."

spL1tp3r50naL1ty sighed.

"You made a bold move, Tasaio. It has paid off for you."


Khazaar smiled, enjoying the glory of his victory.

"As my first act, I order the death of the following men:

ACIN
CA
Greyblades
Iskander
Lord Winter
Tratorix

They have been found guilty of inactivity in servce. Hang them."

As the men were prepared for the hanging, Crazed Rabbit was pushed forward into the line, enough people having decided he was a traitor to condemn him to death.

Khazaar is now the Emperor of Tsuranuanni. All players with any loyalties to the former Emperor, or split, are now loyal to Khazaar.

He may not be lynched.

Alive: 23/43
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
Sasaki Kojiro
Beskar
atheotes
death is yonder
Sprig
Captain Blackadder
Joooray
Centurion1
Chaotix
AskThePizzaGuy
Reenk Roink
Csargo (Ichigo)
Khazaar
Andres
Karo
YLC
Renata
scottishranger
Zain
rhawn
KukriKhan



Killed: 7/43
Major Robert Dump
Yaseikhaan
Shlin28
Subotan
Sigurd
johnhughthom
spL1tp3r50naL1ty

Lynched: 7/43
White_Eyes:D
LittleGrizzly
A1_Unit
Beefy187
A Very Super Market
Elite Ferret
Crazed Rabbit

Wrath of Camel'd: 6/43
CountArach
Iskander 3.1
a completely inoffensive name
Greyblades
Lord Winter
Tratorix

It is now Night 4. Order due in 24 hours and 15 minutes

Khazaar
11-12-2009, 11:49
Oops, I did it again...

Sigurd
11-12-2009, 11:56
Lims-Kragma!!! You can't hold me. My presence in your realm is draining you. Release me into the world.

Death is yonder
11-12-2009, 13:31
Woah??

So is Khazaar a good guy now, or a usurper?

pevergreen
11-12-2009, 14:00
Lims-Kragma!!! You can't hold me. My presence in your realm is draining you. Release me into the world.

I saw your un-edited post, and where the :daisy: does the Lady come into this? :laugh4:


Thou shall not swear - Ishap

My apologies Sigurd, I forgot.

:shame:

Renata
11-12-2009, 14:11
I have no idea how that happened, but it was really cool. :)

Sigurd
11-12-2009, 14:12
I saw your un-edited post, and where the :daisy: does the Lady come into this? :laugh4:


Wait... Are you saying I am not dead after all? I am not in her realm?

Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2009, 14:21
I grow only more confused with each passing day. :no:

Zain
11-12-2009, 14:39
Woah! So now we have a new leader...

This is interesting as heck! :2thumbsup:

Ferret
11-12-2009, 14:49
kind of defeats the point in us being able to vote though...

Sasaki Kojiro
11-12-2009, 15:02
Vote:Mutiny

watch this actually do something...

Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2009, 15:03
Vote: Mutiny

Heck, I'll do you one better.


Use my crazy god powers to utterly annihilate: Khazaar.

Sigurd
11-12-2009, 16:09
No worries mates,

Lady Mara will soon enough pull this usurper down from the throne and into a shallow grave. Long live the Acoma!!!
Mark my words. They are as true as my name is [Censored].

[No revealing of roles - GH]

GeneralHankerchief
11-12-2009, 16:10
Sigurd, everybody knows that my little tag at the end is supposed to be italicized. :laugh4:

Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2009, 16:13
And your post wasn't edited either.

Sigurd
11-12-2009, 16:14
Sigurd, everybody knows that my little tag at the end is supposed to be italicized. :laugh4:
What? it is italicized... Early morning, eh?

Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2009, 16:17
Now if you could just get rid of that pesky "edited by Sigurd" tag. :laugh4:

Renata
11-12-2009, 16:17
Khazaar moved up, thanking his blood enemy, Mara, with a slight nod. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2377099&postcount=506)

Thanking her for a new pony, maybe?

I'll give you one thing, Khazaar may not be the true power in Kelewan right now.

(Directed at Sigurd.)

Sigurd
11-12-2009, 16:22
Thanking her for a new pony, maybe?

I'll give you one thing, Khazaar may not be the true power in Kelewan right now.

(Directed at Sigurd.)
Lady Mara of the Acoma, at last... *bows* at your service.

Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2009, 16:24
edit: Nevermind I think I understand now.

Renata
11-12-2009, 16:25
Somebody might be along to contest that name at some point. Not sure why you'd want to encourage it.

Zain
11-12-2009, 16:27
Somebody might be along to contest that name at some point. Not sure why you'd want to encourage it.

What name are we talking about? I want to understand. :confused:

Sigurd
11-12-2009, 16:31
Were this true, methinks it would be a rule break, so who are you fooling?
I guess as long as I am not revealing who I am or what is stated in my role PM or anything that I learned while being alive - I am in the clear.


Players who have died are encouraged to continue participating, but may not reveal, allude to or in any way mention their role or abilities. Any mention of this will result in the host asking the player to refrain from posting and having their posts removed by the moderators. Dead players are also not permitted to vote, even in jest, unless overtly obvious that it is fake and does not draw attention.

Even though - it does not state that I can't reveal stuff that I learned while being alive - I added that as a self-imposed rule.
On the other hand - anything I learn while being dead - is fair game.

A dead Sigurd is as dangerous as a live one - if not more.

Renata
11-12-2009, 16:38
At Zain -- to all appearances Sigurd is saying that he thinks I am Lady Mara.

Andres
11-12-2009, 16:39
No worries mates,

Lady Mara will soon enough pull this usurper down from the throne and into a shallow grave. Long live the Acoma!!!
Mark my words. They are as true as my name is [Censored].

[No revealing of roles - GH]

:laugh4:

Splitpersonality
11-12-2009, 17:17
:/

I wish I knew what the :daisy: just happened...

Beskar
11-12-2009, 17:23
:/

I wish I knew what the :daisy: just happened...

Khazaar got revenge for you running off with the Dragon Balls.

Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2009, 17:50
I guess as long as I am not revealing who I am or what is stated in my role PM or anything that I learned while being alive - I am in the clear.

I had misinterpreted your post as being a revelation of something maybe you discovered via investigation or something. However, if you're accusing based on something besides that, it should be legal, even though I doubt its veracity.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-12-2009, 18:22
Who is Lady Mara?

Beskar
11-12-2009, 18:24
Who is Lady Mara?

Isn't she the wife of Luke Skywalker and the mother of his children?

[There will be NO mentions of the Expanded Universe in the Gameroom. The EU does not exist - GH]

Crazed Rabbit
11-12-2009, 19:07
Dangit, this sucks.

One day I hope I'll get an ordinary role and not be killed off immediately.

CR

Khazaar
11-12-2009, 19:24
Don´t hate the player, hate the game...

I have the best interest of the Empire at heart and I have not killed a single person (except for the executions ;-) ) work with me to make this empire great again. I am very considerate and am willing to assist you in achieving your personal victory. I also encourage the barbarians to contact me, I have a great deal of resources available now...


Khazaar is now the Emperor of Tsuranuanni. All players with any loyalties to the former Emperor, or split, are now loyal to Khazaar.

scottishranger
11-12-2009, 22:04
Don´t hate the player, hate the game...

I have the best interest of the Empire at heart and I have not killed a single person (except for the executions ;-) ) work with me to make this empire great again. I am very considerate and am willing to assist you in achieving your personal victory. I also encourage the barbarians to contact me, I have a great deal of resources available now...

Is oh so confused right now.


:dizzy2:

pevergreen
11-12-2009, 23:42
I guess as long as I am not revealing who I am or what is stated in my role PM or anything that I learned while being alive - I am in the clear.

Common sense, my boy.

Yeah, thats pretty much right. :yes:

Anything you know while alive - no allowed

anything you think/find out after death - fair game.


Of course I reserve the right to deem it a no-no and get rid of it. :)

White_eyes:C
11-13-2009, 01:02
Since I was lynched by my own guys:stare:......not much loss here:laugh4:

But sorry pevergreen:bow:

Sasaki and Pizzaguy are guilty:smash:

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 01:16
Sasaki and Pizzaguy are guilty:smash:

Well, at least you haven't lost your "insane cop" ability as it relates to me. :2thumbsup:

Captain Blackadder
11-13-2009, 01:30
So what just happened how come khazzar is still alive?

scottishranger
11-13-2009, 03:46
Hes not just alive, hes the emperor.

pevergreen
11-13-2009, 03:48
Hes not just alive, hes the emperor.

He's both.

pevergreen
11-13-2009, 06:16
Captain C will be replacing Tratorix, effective next day start.

Which WoC'd person it was, was decided by a die roll.
(Since he was WoC'd, it has no effect on balance, so stop whining)

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 06:21
I defy anyone to whine about getting additional players in this game. :2thumbsup:

Nothing spoils a good game like losing players to the WOG. Great to have you with us, Captain C.

Captain C
11-13-2009, 06:33
Good to be here, now I just need to read through 19 pages to know what's going on.

Sprig
11-13-2009, 07:06
Good to be here, now I just need to read through 19 pages to know what's going on.

Don't bother, i have been here from the start and still have no idea.

Death is yonder
11-13-2009, 07:31
Good to be here, now I just need to read through 19 pages to know what's going on.

Well, in summary we have something along the lines of:

Lynches are apparently separated into a double lynch of sorts every day phase, the current consensus is that the two lynches are typically from different sides of the "Rift", as in different worlds in this universe where the game is centered.

Shlin28 was a person whose objective was to betray some mafia faction, but he did not know their names, but they knew his. After being contacted, and supposedly role blocking them, which ended in the result of less mafia kills early game, exposed their names about 3 phases ago, in the day, Beefy was already dead, AVSM was lynched, and Khazaar, just as we attempted to lynch him, suddenly deposed the Emperor of one of the sides of the Rift, Split, who was revealed just as the game started by the host, and now all who owed split their allegiance previously are now loyal to Khazaar, confounding us, where we now come to the current stage of the game.

Well, that's basically what's been happening in essence, although what Sigurd's been saying also makes no sense :no:

:smash:

Hope this helps,

:bow:

For more detailed reading, just take a quick glance through the pages :yes:

pevergreen
11-13-2009, 08:38
Sigurd has read the books and is spouting out info about anything he can think of.


Lims-Kragma!!! You can't hold me. My presence in your realm is draining you. Release me into the world.

As each person dies, they go to the Halls of the Dead and meet Lims-Kragma to be judged. This is what the Midkemians believe. The Tsurani have different gods.

pevergreen
11-13-2009, 12:29
GeneralHankerchief was sitting alone outside the courtyard. He no longer knew what to do. His shah pieces sat on the ground, he no longer had his playing opponent. A strange man walked up to him and poured water out on to the ground. GH looked at him, with this action, he felt fear from this man.

"You will sleep tonight though, my friend has not joined me..."

With that, the man left, leaving GH contemplating the situation.




The group gathered again in the morning, but again, a few people were late.


Renata woke up feeling groggy. A robed figure was in the doorway, blocking out most of the light. Renata jumped up, hissing.

The figure waved his wands, and said "Why don't you lie down, no need to lose a tooth about it. Or a ring."

Renata struggled, unable to do anything but what was asked.

The body was later found, with multiple hole in the back of it, with small pools of water. It was obvious Renata had laid down on a bed of needles made of ice.

GH had spent the night thinking, mostly about where the wine was to go, when another strange man sat down in front of him.

"I'll take this one." The stranger drank, threw his goblet aside and pulled out his sword, stabbing GH in the heart.



It is now Day 5. Day will end in 24 hours, 31 minutes.








Alive: 22/43
Double A
Sasaki Kojiro
Beskar
atheotes
death is yonder
Sprig
Captain Blackadder
Joooray
Centurion1
Chaotix
AskThePizzaGuy
Reenk Roink
Csargo (Ichigo)
Khazaar
Andres
Karo
YLC
scottishranger
Zain
rhawn
KukriKhan
Captain C (Replacing Tratorix)



Killed: 9/43
Major Robert Dump
Yaseikhaan
Shlin28
Subotan
Sigurd
johnhughthom
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
GeneralHankerchief
Renata

Lynched: 7/43
White_Eyes:D
LittleGrizzly
A1_Unit
Beefy187
A Very Super Market
Elite Ferret
Crazed Rabbit

Wrath of Camel'd: 5/43
CountArach
Iskander 3.1
a completely inoffensive name
Greyblades
Lord Winter

Sigurd
11-13-2009, 15:08
I guess I could give my musings about the game too.

From what has been publicly revealed we know we are dealing with two worlds. Midkemia and Kelewan. They have just recently been involved in a war with each other or are currently engaged in a war. This war started when a rift in the fabric of spacetime connected the two worlds and let people travel from one world to another through it.

Publicly revealed investigations of characters belonging to the Tsuranuranni, identify artefacts that do not belong to the world of Kelewan.
Kelewan is a world which is depleted of natural resources and has been so since the human race of the Tsurani first came to that world, hence items of metal is very rare and even a metal key is worth more than a human life.
Discovering Midkemia with its abundant metal resources was too great a temptation for a warrior nation like the Tsuranuranni. They invaded to claim it for their own.

I don’t know the ratio of players divided to these two worlds, but for balance I would say 50%. We also know that pever has given everyone of us a unique role.

We know that among the Tsurani – we have encountered:

Split – Ichindar, 91st Emperor of the Tsuranuranni.
Khazaar – Tasaio Subcommander of Minwanabi – now the 92nd Emperor of the Tsuranuranni.
Beefy – of the house of Minwanabi
AVSM – of the house of Minwanabi
Shlin28 – Teani, spy for the Lord of house ? (Anasati in the saga)

Also by the use of different public ruses I suspect the following players to be/have been Tsurani:

MRD – used as a ruse, but could easily been Midkemian - but wanted contact with two dual characters (Pug and Charles - Tsurani and citizens of the Kingdom)
Tratorix – voted me when I claimed Tsurani was equal to the enemy.
Askthepizzaguy – voting Midkemian when not supposed to
LittleGrizzly (lynched with WE:D)
Renata – reacted well to my Lady Mara of the Acoma accusations.
GH – playing shah (Tsurani chess)
Scottishranger – “friend” of MRD (voting against my Tsurani = enemy).
Karo – all though could be Dark elf since many of his posts contained questions or comments about this.
Yaseikhaan - ?? very hot in the environment where he was killed = Kelewan. Could be killer fiction.
Double A – voting Midkemian when not supposed to

Killed by the Emperor: (could just be an easy way to WoG)

ACIN
CA
Greyblades
Iskander
Lord Winter
Tratorix

The following Tsurani families should already be confirmed:

Minwanabi (Orange/ Black)
Acoma (Green)
Anasati. (Yellow/ Scarlet)

Other families?

Shinzawai (Blue)

Other Kelewan characters:

Great Ones – powerful magicians of the Higher path.
Cho-ja – powerful insecto-humanoid race.


Midkemians:

White_Eyes:D – King Lyam
Crazed Rabbit - Lynhced with Khazaar
Elite Ferret - Lynched with AVSM
A1_Unit - Lynhced with Beefy
Subotan – killed by crossbows (On Midkemia) and host writing the results.

Dual citizens (both Tsurani and Midkemiean):

Pug (Milamber) – Master of the Greater and Lesser magical Path - MRD asked for Pug
Charles (Tchakachakalla)– MRD asked for Charles

Other Midkemian characters:

Macros the Black – Master of all magic paths - confirmed by host?
Arutha – prince and now crowned King of the Kingdom of the Isles.
Martin Logbow – Ranger and elf-friend
Jimmy the Hand – thief and friend of Arutha
Valheru – Andres mentioned them and hughjohn was probably killed by one.
Nighthawks? – Assassins, all though not as early in the books as this.
Elves
Dark Elves
Dwarfs

It is the objection of the Midkemians to kill the Kelewans, and the Kelewans to kill the Midkemians.
It seems the Mafia has won on Kelewan and will concentrate on their secondary goal of getting rid of the Midkemians.



The two worlds have been connected by a rift (Riftwar, geddit?) and have been at war for nearly a decade. If you are from Midkemia, you want the Tsurani dead, if you are from Kelewan, you want the barbarians of Midkemia dead.

Renata
11-13-2009, 15:35
You totally got me killed, Sigurd. I hope you're proud of yourself. Lady Mara would have had protection.

Renata
11-13-2009, 15:37
Actually reading the color, I take that back.

White_eyes:C
11-13-2009, 17:44
Well, at least you haven't lost your "insane cop" ability as it relates to me. :2thumbsup:

Ok....Askthepizzaguy is innocent and Sasaki is guilty...:bounce:

I see that by my own team lynching me:stare:, they revealed and totally killed themselves.:beam:


White_eyes :D pleaded with his eyes, but to no avail. He was hung until death. The crowd found little joy in lynching their king.

Nice work guys:smash::clown:

Edit:two sides of the rift....and lynched by his own side...*face desk*

White_eyes:C
11-13-2009, 18:19
I now get the "New mechanic never done in a mafia game before":yes:

There are two towns that are like two mafia games in one with guys who can jump back and forth between either.

Let's say, two guys in group A vote for a guy in group B, but one guy in group A votes for one of the guys in his group and he lynchs that guy, while the guy in group B gets away scot free with two votes on him, which didn't count....I made that overly-complicated:laugh4:

I am off on a few things...but I am starting to think, one sides votes don't work on the other...unless they are Anti-town or can cross between:juggle2:

Karo
11-13-2009, 18:47
Ok....Askthepizzaguy is innocent and Sasaki is guilty...:bounce:

I see that by my own team lynching me:stare:, they revealed and totally killed themselves.:beam:



Nice work guys:smash::clown:

Edit:two sides of the rift....and lynched by his own side...*face desk*

That's got too hurt

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 19:03
All right, I didn't imagine I'd have survived this long, and I can't reveal after I die, so...

I am Ban-Ath, a God from Midkemia. I can either investigate 2 people, block 2 people, or defend 3 people at night. I am a major pro-town role, and I wanted to get as far as I could without the public reveal, but now I feel it is too risky to go without protection.

I have gathered information from my roleblocking efforts, and will continue to do so. In my opinion the roleblocking is superior to the investigation because it stops a murder in its tracks and still tends to indicate guilt when the number of kills drop. And even if it doesn't, fewer kills is better for the town. I am assuming there are other investigators out there to check certain people, but I'll be using my skills for defense or roleblocking, whichever is a priority. I started off with 3 defenses per night but I really didn't want to end up defending mafia either. I tried to defend people I think would be metagamed early on.

I am willing to be investigated to prove this, but I am frankly too powerful for you guys to get a clear reading. As such I am willing to die whenever. As long as I can serve the town's interests as long as possible, we do have a double lynch we can use to get rid of me whenever is convenient.

I would love to hear who needs to be defended and why, and who needs to be roleblocked and why. Make sure I am defended at night, and make sure there is someone from midkemia on the chopping block every round other than me, until you're ready to kill me.

I also checked who Ban-Ath is, and he's a god of trickery and thieves. So I understand if you don't believe me, that's just how it is.

Crazed Rabbit
11-13-2009, 19:44
I am Ban-Ath...a god of trickery and thieves.

vote: Askthepizzaguy

:yes:

CR

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 19:47
vote: Askthepizzaguy

:yes:

CR

Lynched: 7/43
White_Eyes:D
LittleGrizzly
A1_Unit
Beefy187
A Very Super Market
Elite Ferret
Crazed Rabbit

Crazed Rabbit
11-13-2009, 19:49
:sweatdrop:
:shame:

CR

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 20:00
Just wait until you see the irony of who I had been defending at night after the game is done, Crazed Rabbit.

White_eyes:C
11-13-2009, 20:06
Lynch Askthepizzaguy.....He and Sasaki forced me to reveal....:no:

Plus....you lynched someone from the other side of the rift with just one vote...:inquisitive:

That means...A) your Anti-town or B) A Pro-townie role that was too busy killing his own side:whip:

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 20:20
Lynch Askthepizzaguy.....He and Sasaki forced me to reveal....:no:

Plus....you lynched someone from the other side of the rift with just one vote...:inquisitive:

That means...A) your Anti-town or B) A Pro-townie role that was too busy killing his own side:whip:

You are very, very consistent in being incorrect about me, and it never stops you from doing it again.

:laugh4:

I really, really don't care if I get lynched right away. I will just say it is a foolish move because, uh, I can prove I have these powers. Roleblocking is hard to do when you don't have that power.

Just saying. But we can be silly and lynch me, and be wrong, again, and be humbled after the game.

White_eyes:C
11-13-2009, 20:22
So it was good to help lynch me:stare:.....which means your not on my side....you heard him boys...:smoking:

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 20:30
So it was good to help lynch me:stare:.....which means your not on my side....you heard him boys...:smoking:

Uh, I argued against your lynch on the premise you were being the same as always.

:wall:

I wish you'd be right about things.

White_eyes:C
11-13-2009, 20:37
Yet...you came after me to help Sasaki:stare:...because of Meta-gaming:rolleyes:(I guess Random.org is Meta-gaming....must Vote:Askthepizzaguy from now on..:laugh4:)

I can see that you guys are working together...:inquisitive:

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 20:38
Yet...you came after me to help Sasaki:stare:...because of Meta-gaming:rolleyes:(I guess Random.org is Meta-gaming....must Vote:Askthepizzaguy from now on..:laugh4:)

I can see that you guys are working together...:inquisitive:

Ask Sasaki how much I've talked with him about this game. :yes:

Other than defending Sasaki one night early on, I've had no real interaction with him.

White_eyes:C
11-13-2009, 20:41
Ask Sasaki how much I've talked with him about this game. :yes:

Other than defending Sasaki one night early on, I've had no real interaction with him.

And I would take the word of someone who fakes PM's from me??:inquisitive:

Yeah, I believe you Pizzaguy:laugh4:

By Sasaki doing that, it only bit him in the :daisy: in the end...:bounce:

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 20:45
And I would take the word of someone who fakes PM's from me??:inquisitive:

Good point, actually. But that's classic Sasaki. Frankly if you ask him, he might say I've been working with him secretly all game, just to make me die. :laugh4:


Yeah, I believe you Pizzaguy:laugh4: You honestly should try it once in a while. It worked in Capo.

Until you learn to trust me once in a while, or start to accuse me when I am actually mafia once in a while, I give you... an ode to White_Eyes:C (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGC09B810Yk)

White_eyes:C
11-13-2009, 20:55
Feeling the heat Pizzaguy?:inquisitive:

Makes you want to come clean? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C65oaIHsdYM):bounce:

You can still say "I told you so":yes:

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 20:59
Feeling the heat Pizzaguy?:inquisitive:

If I end up getting lynched I'll reveal who I blocked and stuff, it's the best I can do.


Makes you want to come clean? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C65oaIHsdYM):bounce:

Already did.


You can still say "I told you so":yes:

I guess you're right about ONE thing... :bounce:

Renata
11-13-2009, 21:04
Bah. ATPG is God this game. You can't question God.

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 21:05
Bah. ATPG is God this game. You can't question God.

Now that is the finest example of irony I've ever seen....

Renata
11-13-2009, 21:09
Whaaaat? I just want the best for you. I don't even know if you have any loyal minions yet this game (except me, and I'm dead), and that's a crying shame.

White_eyes:C
11-13-2009, 21:14
I was loyal....before he helped his worst enemy kill us all....you failed us Pizzzaguy~:mecry:

Now I know who Sasaki is.....too bad that seals pizzaguys and our fate...:sweatdrop:

And it's "god" not "God" as in more then one:bounce:

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 21:41
I was loyal....before he helped his worst enemy kill us all....you failed us Pizzzaguy~:mecry:

Now I know who Sasaki is.....too bad that seals pizzaguys and our fate...:sweatdrop:

And it's "god" not "God" as in more then one:bounce:

:drama2: queen...

:clown:

White_eyes:C
11-13-2009, 21:48
Look at what you have done.....:no:

You helped murdered or kept half of us in the dark....and your surprised to find yourself alone??:inquisitive:

Robert was the protector....and I was one as well.....so your out of luck...unless the other town wants you to live for some reason..:shrug:

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 21:51
Look at what you have done.....:no:

You helped murdered or kept half of us in the dark....and your surprised to find yourself alone??:inquisitive:

Robert was the protector....and I was one as well.....so your out of luck...unless the other town wants you to live for some reason..:shrug:

Sometimes I have trouble deciphering any meaning from what you say.

"helped murdered" who? Kept half of us in the dark? Did you want me to reveal on round one and die like someone else I know?

And again with the :drama2: ....

You're a strange cat, White_Eyes.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-13-2009, 22:01
Ask Sasaki how much I've talked with him about this game. :yes:



Actually, I have a bunch of pm's from you that I can quote :bounce:

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 22:02
Actually, I have a bunch of pm's from you that I can quote :bounce:

Send them to me. I want to see if you've got my writing style pegged yet.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-13-2009, 22:04
Send them to me. I want to see if you've got my writing style pegged yet.

You're wordy so it's way too much effort. #1 defense against forgery :beam:

rhawn
11-13-2009, 22:30
Vote: ATPG. He instigated most of the voting that let Khazaar be lynched twice. While the write-up of your reveal was very entertaining, it is not true. I'm sorry but you are consistently random or what seems to be random. Most ridiculous is your claim that you are beyond investigation and that everything the players "know" about you is false. I think your time has come friend.

Reenk Roink
11-13-2009, 22:32
Vote: Atpg

FoS: Sasaki

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 22:36
Points at the poor townies and laughs. :laugh4:

Voice trails off as he dies.

I told you soooooooooooooooo...............

Renata
11-13-2009, 22:43
Don't know why people don't just trust you. It's baffling.

scottishranger
11-13-2009, 22:44
Haha Im actually inclined to believe ATPG. Which means your all fools for doing this.

Vote: Reenk Roink

you come out of nowhere to vote ATPG. You wanna kill somebody eh?

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 22:46
That's good enough for me.

vote: Reenk Roink

Obviously because I'm mafia, and not someone who can defend three people at night. It won't stop the bandwagon but at least I can say I tried.

rhawn
11-13-2009, 22:55
If you can really do all that you can do, why don't you post your actions thus far and have the others support your claims?

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 22:57
If you can really do all that you can do, why don't you post your actions thus far and have the others support your claims?

Because I don't want the mafia to know who among the townies I suspect less than the others because while I was blocking them, murders happened.

If I tell them that, it makes it easier to decide who to murder after I die.







I tell you what. If you really want to know, lynch me. Just before I die I will tell you. But not before. Not this early.

rhawn
11-13-2009, 23:05
I am so confused. I don't know what to do. I've been searching for someone the whole game but I cannot ask because they cannot reveal who they are except in public which would immediately make them a target. What to do, what to do? I guess I'll take back my vote for now and try to follow the bouncing ball. unvote: ATPG.

White_eyes:C
11-13-2009, 23:20
What did you say to me earlier??....oh yeah here it is...:smash:


Maybe I'm on the other side of the rift-war. Maybe I'm a townie but I secretly hate your people anyway.

That reveal came way too quick. You have to hold your nerve a little longer than that.
Yet...you revealed with no votes on you and claim to be on the Midkemians side??:juggle2:

Anyone who is on the Midkemians...check out what pever said eariler...
As each person dies, they go to the Halls of the Dead and meet Lims-Kragma to be judged. This is what the Midkemians believe. The Tsurani have different gods. means ATPG is screwed if he is not with the Trurani....:no:

Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2009, 23:30
What did you say to me earlier??....oh yeah here it is...:smash:
Someday I will send you a box containing a sense of humor. It will be wrapped in bubble wrap, but you will not be allowed to pop it.


Yet...you revealed with no votes on you and claim to be on the Midkemians side??:juggle2:

Yes, because revealing under pressure just looks like total lies, and I'm requesting night protection since I flew through the game without it so far. And I was hoping someone might discuss something interesting this round and maybe, just maybe, give some direction to our efforts.


Anyone who is on the Midkemians...check out what pever said eariler... means ATPG is screwed if he is not with the Trurani....:no:

For your education:

http://www.crydee.com/raymond-feist/encyclopedia/riftwar-cycle/4789/ban-ath-dav-lu

I got this from the game host because I know nothing else about Feist's work.

GeneralHankerchief
11-14-2009, 00:20
Is Reenk even playing? :dizzy2:

Captain Blackadder
11-14-2009, 00:44
ATPG how do you know that you were not protected? Anyway I find it highly unlikely that all investigations on your would produce false results if so then they should be consistant has anyone inestigated him before? If so please post the results so that we can see what they all indicate about him and those of us who know the books can see if he is lying.

pevergreen
11-14-2009, 01:07
The town was enjoying some livened debate, with one of its members claiming to be Ban-ath himself. Many laughed, but stopped as they noticed the terrible smell hanging around.

It turned out that no one had removed Crazed Rabbits body from the courtyard.

A few people moved away, hoping that they could forget about it, but the ones that were closer, including the Emperor Khazaar, tried to pretend it was not there.

They couldn't ignore it, when it pulled itself up off the ground and lunged at Khazaar, wearing an evil grin.

A robed figure stopped CR in his tracks, but with a wave of the hand of Khazaar, just let it drop. CR again joined the 'living'.

Alive: 23/43
Double A
Sasaki Kojiro
Beskar
atheotes
death is yonder
Sprig
Captain Blackadder
Joooray
Centurion1
Chaotix
AskThePizzaGuy
Reenk Roink
Csargo (Ichigo)
Khazaar
Andres
Karo
YLC
scottishranger
Zain
rhawn
KukriKhan
Captain C (Replacing Tratorix)
Crazed Rabbit




Killed: 9/43
Major Robert Dump
Yaseikhaan
Shlin28
Subotan
Sigurd
johnhughthom
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
GeneralHankerchief
Renata


Lynched: 6/43
White_Eyes:D
LittleGrizzly
A1_Unit
Beefy187
A Very Super Market
Elite Ferret


Wrath of Camel'd: 5/43
CountArach
Iskander 3.1
a completely inoffensive name
Greyblades
Lord Winter

scottishranger
11-14-2009, 03:22
Yes Reenk is playing


and wha? No one got lynched?

Beskar
11-14-2009, 03:23
Vote: Reenk Roink

because ATPG looks like a pro-town role and Reenk jumps in to kill him. Must be Mafia.

Death is yonder
11-14-2009, 04:08
Vote: ATPG. He instigated most of the voting that let Khazaar be lynched twice.

We seemed to have a solid claim that a detective/roleblocker identified an entire mafia faction. Shlin28, I believe. Hence it was with good reason that we were all voting Khazaar :inquisitive:


While the write-up of your reveal was very entertaining, it is not true. I'm sorry but you are consistently random or what seems to be random. Most ridiculous is your claim that you are beyond investigation and that everything the players "know" about you is false. I think your time has come friend.

This seems to be a rather lore driven game, what's to make a god of one side of the rift practically immune to investigation? :juggle2::juggle2:

Unlikely, but possible. Just give him the benefit of the doubt for a few rounds or something, his ability, like he said, is easily verifiable, and he shouldn't be trying to pull off some diamond ones this time.

Your caution is forgivable, but Reenk's promptness and sudden appearance is not :stare:

Vote: Reenk Roink

:pleased:

KukriKhan
11-14-2009, 05:19
So, we're in Day 5.

vote: Reenk Roink

for no particular reason, except he's a good player, dead or alive. Therefore a threat.

KukriKhan
11-14-2009, 05:21
So, we're in Day 5.

vote: Reenk Roink

for no particular reason, except he's a good player, dead or alive. Therefore a threat.

Ipso frikken facto.

Couldn't edit a vote post. Sorry Mod's, fer the dbl-pst.

Askthepizzaguy
11-14-2009, 05:27
Odds are still pretty high that I die with the double lynch anyway. :laugh4:

As the great and wise Pooh once succinctly lamented; "oh bother".

KukriKhan
11-14-2009, 05:48
Odds are still pretty high that I die with the double lynch anyway. :laugh4:

As the great and wise Pooh once succinctly lamented; "oh bother".

Were Milne a Gameroomer, I'm sure he'd've made it:

"Oh. Bothah."

Dear pizzy-guy, please save us sinners from our pasts, and lead us not into... well, you know.

Askthepizzaguy
11-14-2009, 06:43
Oh yeah that's right, now that I revealed as a god, I should probably milk it.










https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/demon-1.jpg

ALL KNEEL BEFORE THE MIGHTY PIZZ-ATH! I DEMAND A RITUAL PIG SACRIFICE (so I can make the pepperoni, pork, ham, and bacon toppings) AND SEND ME YOUR PRAYERS; IF THINGS WORK OUT FOR YOU, THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED ANSWERED. BUT IF THINGS DON'T WORK OUT FOR YOU, IT SHALL BE CONSIDERED PART OF MY DIVINE PLAN!!!


:crowngrin:

Renata
11-14-2009, 07:33
Oh man, that was so very nearly a good move.

Crazed Rabbit
11-14-2009, 09:06
A robed figure stopped CR in his tracks, but with a wave of the hand of Khazaar, just let it drop. CR again joined the 'living'.


:jawdrop: :inquisitive: :dizzy2:

vote:ATPG
:juggle2:

CR

Reenk Roink
11-14-2009, 10:04
All right it looks like I'm gonna be lynched. Fair enough, it is a somewhat elegant way of ending my participation in a game I really don't have the time to check much at all. Besides, I'm not sure if I should really be playing anyway due to the fact I corresponded a bit with pever about the game mechanics (don't worry I won't spoil anything because I didn't understand much of it :laugh4:).

Let me explain why you should send Atpg to the gallows with me briefly. His role reveal is pretty obviously a patchwork forgery. He most likely is the god Banath, but his abilities are probably faked/exagerrated. The simple fact that he is a trickster god should be pretty much a giveaway in the first place...

I do agree with the fact that his questionably timed reveal basically has paralyzed him though, but just remember that lynches don't work all easy. Do make a note that his name is public. Go to pever with his name now that you know it.

Vote: Atpg

FoS: Sasaki I've gunned for this guy from the start. Think on that. :yes:

By the way I am "townie"-type role. I doubt there are absolutely generic townies in this game. (I hate being townie because it usually is boring and unchallenging :wall:).

Karo
11-14-2009, 10:14
Vote: ATPG

Sprig
11-14-2009, 10:42
vote: Reenk Roink His post says enough.

OOC: (RE: townie - that is not always the case, there have been quite a few games that i have been in where townie has been more rewarding than mafia/wolf.)

Sasaki - RE: too wordy - If you need to fake ATPG pm's, I'm your guy :)

Sigurd
11-14-2009, 11:48
Everyone who votes ATPG is a dirty Tsurani or Mafia.

Banath is a good force and will help save the people of Kelewan of certain death in the future. You are basically dooming your planet by removing Banath.

The Midkemians should not vote ATPG. You can't lose more gods than you already have.

pevergreen
11-14-2009, 13:06
The group returned to normal after Crazed Rabbit's scene. For some reason, no one even discussed it. Maybe it was because everyone feared his now identifyable Moredhel face. It may have been that topknot, but something didn't look right.

The group had decided to send ATPG to the gallows. He didn't seem sad, or even angry, but happy. Excited, even.

"Oh, I wonder what this will feel like. I only regret I don't have my horse anymore."

As the guards escorted him to the gallows, he reached into a bag he had.

"Orange?" He asked, looking at both of his guards.

"I'll take that as a no." He stuck his thumb into the orange, the juice blinding the guards. He ran away, gleefully, and leaped over the walls, never to be seen again.

To calm to crowd down, it was decided that Reenk should be lynched instead. He was, and it was a normal execution. The crowd had undertones though. Over half their number was dead. What would this night hold?



Alive: 21/43
Double A
Sasaki Kojiro
Beskar
atheotes
death is yonder
Sprig
Captain Blackadder
Joooray
Centurion1
Chaotix
Csargo (Ichigo)
Khazaar
Andres
Karo
YLC
scottishranger
Zain
rhawn
KukriKhan
Captain C (Replacing Tratorix)
Crazed Rabbit




Killed: 9/43
Major Robert Dump
Yaseikhaan
Shlin28
Subotan
Sigurd
johnhughthom
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
GeneralHankerchief
Renata


Lynched: 8/43
White_Eyes:D
LittleGrizzly
A1_Unit
Beefy187
A Very Super Market
Elite Ferret
AskThePizzaGuy
Reenk Roink


Wrath of Camel'd: 5/43
CountArach
Iskander 3.1
a completely inoffensive name
Greyblades
Lord Winter

It is now Night 5. This round will end in 24 hours and 24 minutes. (10:30pm GMT+10)

Renata
11-14-2009, 14:08
*shakes head* That was just pitiful. :( Way to commit suicide, Midkemia.


Sasaki - RE: too wordy - If you need to fake ATPG pm's, I'm your guy :)

This is the god's honest truth.

Askthepizzaguy
11-14-2009, 14:41
This will go down in the history of mafia games as the single worst lynch ever! :laugh4:

I can't wait until the game is over to see the look on your faces.

Death is yonder
11-14-2009, 14:48
:no:

Town epic fail.

:no:

I won't be surprised to see mafia hiding in the ATPG bandwagon.

Askthepizzaguy
11-14-2009, 14:57
Maybe.I think the mafia are aware of who I am. I think you might actually find them among my supporters or among the less active.

By the way, since I said it while I was alive, I'll simply repeat it. 2 to block, 2 to investigate, 3 to defend. No exaggeration whatsoever.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/happy0198.gif


Lesson learned, next time I won't inform the town, nor will I ask for help.

Reenk Roink
11-14-2009, 18:24
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

An early thanks for the game pever. :bow:

Renata
11-14-2009, 19:19
I'd say listen to ATPG -- but you won't.

Sigurd
11-14-2009, 20:19
As the guards escorted him to the gallows, he reached into a bag he had.

"Orange?" He asked, looking at both of his guards.

"I'll take that as a no." He stuck his thumb into the orange, the juice blinding the guards. He ran away, gleefully, and leaped over the walls, never to be seen again.

And you said Nakor was not part of the game... :whip:



:beam:

Karo
11-14-2009, 21:21
things keep getting better and better
Nakor is in what is next Macros coming to kill the new emperor or is Puc the one who'll have the honor.

Sigurd
11-14-2009, 21:59
things keep getting better and better
Nakor is in what is next Macros coming to kill the new emperor or is Puc the one who'll have the honor.
With Banath missing, A DreadLord will devour the creatures on Kelewan including the Tsurani and their MAFIA Emperor.

Double A
11-14-2009, 22:06
Double A – voting Midkemian when not supposed to

Huh?

Also I still have no idea what's going on.

pevergreen
11-14-2009, 23:58
And you said Nakor was not part of the game... :whip:



:beam:





My good friend, I see no mention of Nakor!

:wink:


edit: By the way, I've started dropping hints as to who everyone is, since last night phase. Except Reenk, because I was tired.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-15-2009, 00:04
Hmm,


These "rifts" are placed in the lining of his travel bag allowing access to a cave, where Nakor stores items he may need, and a warehouse containing oranges (one of Nakor's most well-known traits is the seemingly never-ending supply of oranges he carries with him).

These books are confusing:


Nakor knows this because, admittedly, he also has a fragment of one of the gods in him, though which god it is remains to be seen. It is then revealed that the god in question is Ba-nath/Kalkin, the God of Pranksters.

pevergreen
11-15-2009, 00:05
:creep:

White_eyes:D
11-15-2009, 00:59
Maybe.I think the mafia are aware of who I am. I think you might actually find them among my supporters or among the less active.

By the way, since I said it while I was alive, I'll simply repeat it. 2 to block, 2 to investigate, 3 to defend. No exaggeration whatsoever.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/happy0198.gif


Lesson learned, next time I won't inform the town, nor will I ask for help.

It was your fault.....:shrug: you worked with Sasaki to force me to reveal dooming the Midkemias....I looked at a couple of PM's.....and I can't post it...but it pretty much spell's out that you were working with Zain before he died:inquisitive:

Edit:....Still alive?? What the :daisy:? lynch him town:stare:

Askthepizzaguy
11-15-2009, 02:12
It was your fault.....:shrug: you worked with Sasaki to force me to reveal dooming the Midkemias....I looked at a couple of PM's.....and I can't post it...but it pretty much spell's out that you were working with Zain before he died:inquisitive:

Edit:....Still alive?? What the :daisy:? lynch him town:stare:

I can't relate to anything you say.

1. I am not working with Sasaki

2. No one forced you to reveal.

3. The Midkemians weren't "DOOMED" when you died, any more than they are "DOOMED" now that I'm dead.

4. I didn't talk to Zain.

5. Could you give the unnecessary drama a rest? It's like everything you say is exactly the opposite of reality.

6. I am listed under "lynched" so you know...

Centurion1
11-15-2009, 04:27
i think atpg talks more when hes dead.......

just for the record atpg has seemed to be on a anti town streak lately, he mentioned it in some thread i cant remember which.....

(shameless metagaming i know :shame:)

Double A
11-15-2009, 07:08
I am still very confused

Sasaki Kojiro
11-15-2009, 07:21
Something tells me that somebody knows more than they are letting on.

Double A
11-15-2009, 07:25
Go ahead and tell us Sasaki.

Csargo
11-15-2009, 07:28
What is then can happen more than?

Double A
11-15-2009, 07:32
I don't even know what phase it is, let alone the round.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-15-2009, 07:33
Go ahead and tell us Sasaki.

Gotcha :evilgrin:

That was just too tempting for you wasn't it?

Double A
11-15-2009, 07:34
:laugh4:

Sasaki Kojiro
11-15-2009, 07:35
I don't even know what phase it is, let alone the round.

No enough of this. You are Lord Borric. You have a certain object in your position which I desire to have. Send it to me.

Double A
11-15-2009, 07:36
Lord who?

Major Robert Dump
11-15-2009, 09:02
1) If you all look carefully back at one of my first posts after the game began, in which people were debating whether or not to lynch or murder SplitPersonality because of his position, I made a very tongue-in-cheek indication of what faction I belonged to, the sarcasm of which was likely missed. Nonetheless, some folks initiated a vote against me by misinterpreting my post.

2) My vote for WhiteEyes had as much to do with the fact that I thought he was bluffing as it did with the fact that he and I were tied in votes.

3) Charles and Pug were my friends, as I stated before. I think Pug may have killed me. I chose them completely at random from my list of friends, and it was completely unintentional that those also happened to be two characters with dual citizenships, something I was unaware of until Sigurd pointed it out.

4) I am fairly sure I know who ATPG is, and you all would not be in this mess had you not killed me, as I had the ability to keep him in check. On the other hand, I was also the catalyst for this entire mess by casting the vote that killed White Eyes.

5) Everything in the above post is meant to confuse and anger the survivors, as I really have no idea what is going on.

pevergreen
11-15-2009, 11:05
3) Charles and Pug were my friends, as I stated before. I think Pug may have killed me. I chose them completely at random from my list of friends, and it was completely unintentional that those also happened to be two characters with dual citizenships, something I was unaware of until Sigurd pointed it out.

pever looks at who Pug was

pever bangs his head against the wall.

pevergreen
11-15-2009, 13:50
rhawn was looking forward to meeting his friends tonight. He very much enjoyed spending time with them. rhawn and his friends all liked to play together.

But rhawn was worried, because he was late! He did not get ready in time, and now he had to hurry. He was afraid he would still be late, though, and wouldn't see his friends at all!

This worried rhawn very much. rhawn also worried that his friends would think he didn't like them. So rhawn put on his coat as quick as he could, though not forgetting to button every button as his mother had taught him. There was, rhawn knew, no point in going outside of your room if you weren't dressed right!

With the final button buttoned, rhawn rushed out the doorway, nearly knocking someone down!

"Oh my, I'm sorry!" said rhawn to the man in dark robes, "I'm in a hurry and forgot my manners!" rhawn knew the best thing to do was apologize.

"That's no problem," the man in the robes said, his hands subtly gesturing, "But you look like you're awfully rushed. Why don't you slow down and take a deep breath?"

That was a good idea, thought rhawn, so he drew in a deep breath, then let it out. But then he couldn't take another breath! Try as he might, his lungs wouldn't move and the air sat stagnant. His face contorted in horrible ways but he did not give in. He had worked too hard to get where he was. He had a vision for himself, for a high position in the future. Hands crept their way around to a pouch on his belt and then whipped forward. The small glass bottle shattered on the man in the robes, starting a fire on him. Immediately rhawn felt free. The burning remains of Crazed Rabbit would trouble him no more. As he walked away, the figure that had been watching and smiling as Crazed Rabbit was winning cursed and retreated back.

Khazaar was relaxing in the imperial suite. Nothing had bothered him for many hours now, he knew peace. The land was to know peace. The common people feared and as an extension of that, respected him, Emperor Tasaio. Footsteps approached, but Tasaio was not idle anymore. These were heavier than the normal sound of feet, these feet made strong noise.

Unsheathing his ever-present sword, Tasaio crouched into his battle ready pose, when a massive figure rounded the corner. It stood over two feet taller than him, in full metal armour, more pricely than his own. The figure unsheathed its massive metal sword, and cut Tasaio down where he stood.

death is yonder smiled slightly. He was happy with what he had done this night. As he turned around, a crossbow bolt shot right through him. The black cloaked figure, alone, ran away.


The morning came once more, the group gathered again to decide who amongst them as a traitor.
Yet again some people had not arrived.


Karo was supervising a patrol returning from outlying fields. Ever present, the crutch he used did not hinder him. As he returned to his room to prepare himself for the long day ahead, a robed figure stood again in his doorway. Karo knew his room stood too far away to call for help, so he stood waiting for this person's next move. Even though the figure was hooded, Karo sensed a smile. An inferno erupted out of nowhere, consuming the entire block of rooms, and incinerating Karo. The man stood at the centre unharmed, brushed some dust off his shoulders and went to join the others at the meeting.

Alive: 17/43
Double A
Sasaki Kojiro
Beskar
atheotes
Sprig
Captain Blackadder
Joooray
Centurion1
Chaotix
Csargo (Ichigo)
Andres
YLC
scottishranger
Zain
rhawn
KukriKhan
Captain C (Replacing Tratorix)




Killed: 13/43
Major Robert Dump
Yaseikhaan
Shlin28
Subotan
Sigurd
johnhughthom
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
GeneralHankerchief
Renata
Khazaar
death is yonder
Crazed Rabbit
Karo


Lynched: 8/43
White_Eyes:D
LittleGrizzly
A1_Unit
Beefy187
A Very Super Market
Elite Ferret
AskThePizzaGuy
Reenk Roink


Wrath of Camel'd: 5/43
CountArach
Iskander 3.1
a completely inoffensive name
Greyblades
Lord Winter


It is now Day 6. Day will end in 36 hours, 10 minutes. (11am GMT +10 Tuesday.)


edit made 6 minutes after original post: All night results are back, PM me if you think you should have gotten some (I missed one earlier in the game, so just making sure)

There is currently no Emperor of the Tsuranuanni.

Death is yonder
11-15-2009, 15:07
death is yonder smiled slightly. He was happy with what he had done this night. As he turned around, a crossbow bolt shot right through him. The black cloaked figure, alone, ran away.

I am so awesome :medievalcheers:

Karo
11-15-2009, 16:11
:furious3: the mob got me now let some one claim the imperial throne

Centurion1
11-15-2009, 16:21
^what? what is this mob you speak of? you were obviously killed by a wizard or something (i guess hence the fire)

You had imperial ambitions.

and diy obviously was one of the other killers.

Khazaar
11-15-2009, 16:23
hmmm... That was rather anticlimatic...

Death is yonder
11-15-2009, 16:34
^what? what is this mob you speak of? you were obviously killed by a wizard or something (i guess hence the fire)

You had imperial ambitions.

and diy obviously was one of the other killers.

You guys should be thanking me, it was rather obvious what I did :pleased:

Joooray
11-15-2009, 16:41
Man, this game is by far the most confusing thing I have ever experienced. :laugh4:

BTW: Just for the heck of it:
I'm looking for the King of Midkemia, I think, the one that replaced White_Eyes. Maybe I can help. :bow:

Centurion1
11-15-2009, 16:52
well diy there are three possibilities

1. you were controlling cr's dead body, which means you are a necromancer
necromancer=evil

2. you are the rich well outfitted monster who destroyed khazzar, could be a positive or a negative

3. you are the sorcerer who killed karo. I dont know anything about karo so that kill is neutral to me.


also i do not think anyone is going to be going for the crown this time around.

Karo
11-15-2009, 17:11
^what? what is this mob you speak of? you were obviously killed by a wizard or something (i guess hence the fire)

You had imperial ambitions.

and diy obviously was one of the other killers.

Than the black cotes go me and I hope those wizards will be killed of

Sasaki Kojiro
11-15-2009, 17:12
Hmm, I was going to vote for rhawn or Karo.

Death is yonder
11-15-2009, 17:33
Hands crept their way around to a pouch on his belt and then whipped forward. The small glass bottle shattered on the man in the robes, starting a fire on him. Immediately rhawn felt free. The burning remains of Crazed Rabbit would trouble him no more. As he walked away, the figure that had been watching and smiling as Crazed Rabbit was winning cursed and retreated back.

:pleased:

I think Centurion has his answers now :pleased:

Beskar
11-15-2009, 17:36
Well, Karo did kill a pro-town Midikian and wanted the Emperor to get attacked. So the person who disposed of you could have been some one from either side trying to get rid of a threat.

Karo
11-15-2009, 18:10
Well, Karo did kill a pro-town Midikian and wanted the Emperor to get attacked. So the person who disposed of you could have been some one from either side trying to get rid of a threat.

The best thing is that the emperor is no more. Let's ope the good guys take the throne.

Centurion1
11-15-2009, 18:11
no not really rhawn freed himself. I think you are a necromancer or something of that ilk.

Askthepizzaguy
11-15-2009, 18:25
Hmm, I was going to vote for rhawn or Karo.

rhawn is still alive.

(Sorry rhawn...) :laugh4:

Sasaki Kojiro
11-15-2009, 18:29
rhawn is still alive.

(Sorry rhawn...) :laugh4:

I know, but was that a mafia kill attempt on him?

Askthepizzaguy
11-15-2009, 18:35
I know, but was that a mafia kill attempt on him?

That much I don't know. Given there are multiple mafia for this game, and it also looks like there are townies and SK's with the ability to murder... can't rule anything out as to the guilt or innocence of rhawn or even the person who attacked him.

:shrug:

Crazed Rabbit
11-15-2009, 18:41
I still don't know who I was killing or why.:shrug:

And doctors kill the people who attack? Bah!

One last thing though...

Lynched: 8/43
White_Eyes:D
LittleGrizzly
A1_Unit
Beefy187
A Very Super Market
Elite Ferret
AskThePizzaGuy
Reenk Roink

:beam:

CR

Askthepizzaguy
11-15-2009, 18:43
:beam:

CR

Rub it in why don't ya. I haven't the foggiest what was going on in this game and I can use the spare time.

Double A
11-15-2009, 19:05
Can I replace out? This is way too complicated right now. Also I have Dragon Age Origins so I won't be on a lot until maybe... winter? No wait I got Tropico 3 as well... better make it next year.

Sigurd
11-15-2009, 20:38
My good friend, I see no mention of Nakor!

:wink:


edit: By the way, I've started dropping hints as to who everyone is, since last night phase. Except Reenk, because I was tired.

Right.. I was wondering about that.

Let's see.
I called Renata Lady Mara of the Acoma. That was obviously just a ruse to see what would happen amongst the Tsurani.
If pever left a clue in her death description - and if Renata left a clue in her response, I got the colour right (green).

She must be the emerald queen of the Pantathians, a lizard people (She hissed in the description).
That means Death is Yonder could be a Saaur warrior, kin to the lizzard people. They were enormous and powerful. The Pantathian priests were more or less magicians and could be some of the dark robed killers running around.

Pantathians and Saaur are trouble and should be second in priority to the Nighthawks or the Necromancer, if he exists.

So any investigator out there. If you come across lizard clues, gold necklaces with a hawk on it or necromancy - spill your guts.
The name Leso Varen is a big baddy. Any info on him must be put forward. If you know who he is and can block or kill - take appropriate action ASAP ZULU. He should have been dead yesterday.

Centurion1
11-15-2009, 22:13
what are nighthawks?

Karo
11-15-2009, 23:01
what are nighthawks?

They are an assassins guild that works for Leso Varen and that guy needs to die, he's the most dangerous crazy person on the both planets. As far as I remember he can take over people and raze the death. And his soul is trapped in a bottle some where near the body he takes over. And the nighthawks need to be killed as soon as possible. They are the second mafia as far as I can tell.

pevergreen
11-15-2009, 23:32
Leso isnt in yet. He makes his first appearance in the Talwin series, no? King of Foxes etc?

Karo
11-15-2009, 23:46
Leso isnt in yet. He makes his first appearance in the Talwin series, no? King of Foxes etc?
In the other books he's there but they don't know that he is there(if you catch my drift) He's the force of all evil in the books. And Pug encounters and kills him a few times I believe. So If he isn't in the game than the dark elves are leading the Night Hawks and of course we can't forget the snake priests and Murmadamus.(did I spell his name right)

Chaotix
11-15-2009, 23:47
Vote: Zain

pevergreen
11-15-2009, 23:50
In the other books he's there but they don't know that he is there(if you catch my drift) He's the force of all evil in the books. And Pug encounters and kills him a few times I believe. So If he isn't in the game than the dark elves are leading the Night Hawks and of course we can't forget the snake priests and Murmadamus.(did I spell his name right)

Its never stated Pug encounters him. He was introduced as an old enemy, but if you read in order...

When did that amulet come into it? Isnt that what started it all for him?

rhawn
11-15-2009, 23:56
Alright, it looks like someone has a bounty of me head. Its time for me to reveal what I can while I may. I wish I could do more for us Midkemians and Prince Arutha but here's what I got.

I am Jimmy the Hand, the youngest master thief in all of Krondor. I am supposed to help Prince Arutha but I also answer to the Upright Man and the Day and Night Masters. I have not been able to locate any of these people. I have a minor investigative role which allows me to steal from 3 people every night and get an item associated with them. Here are my results thus far.

Night 1:
Splitpersonality: Golden armor(he is the king, duh)
Renata: A crossbow
ATPG: Grain

Night 2:
Sasaki: A simple circlet
CountArach: A black rag
Death is Yonder: Nothing

Night 3:
Csargo: Simple robes
Sigurd: white tabard
Crazed Rabbit: topknot of hair

Night 4:
Chaotix: Nothing
Zain: Fine silk
GH: Shah chess pieces

Night 5:
Sprig: leaves
Jooray: lute
Beskar: Hermit robes

This is all I've gathered. I see a looming Midkemian defeat on the horizon, because I doubt many of us know one another and the enemy has most of us targeted. I doubt I'll survive another night even if you don't lynch me for this. I'm also sorry if this helps our enemies but I'm lost and this is the best I could do with imminent death awaiting.

scottishranger
11-15-2009, 23:58
I can tell you all that Renata had a hawk medallion on him. But he is dead now.

Sigurd
11-16-2009, 00:05
Leso isnt in yet. He makes his first appearance in the Talwin series, no? King of Foxes etc?

As we, Feist fans, knows - Leso Varen = Sidi is the vile necromancer, mad magician and arch nemesis to Pug the magician of two worlds.

Sidi first appears in the Serpentwar saga in the main books (Shards of a broken crown). But features in the Krondor series (Jimmy the Hand) and Legends of the Riftwar series (Tear of the gods), which chronologically should put him right here amongst us.
The re-animation of Crazed Rabbit and his claim that he had no control over his actions suggests necromancy or similar.

But ... But Sidi aka Leso Varen completely possesses the bodies he takes over as his life force wanders from host to host.
CR was apparently remotely controlled, ref. the shadow watching and then cursing when CR lost. And the fact the host argues that Leso isnt in yet - suggests that we are facing something else.

Sigurd
11-16-2009, 00:11
I can tell you all that Renata had a hawk medallion on him. But he is dead now.
If this is true.. then She (not he) was a Nighthawk. (Jimmy the Hand got a crossbow from her).
Now... anyone who knows her associates should let the town know. This information would be top priority.

pevergreen
11-16-2009, 00:27
As we, Feist fans, knows - Leso Varen = Sidi is the vile necromancer, mad magician and arch nemesis to Pug the magician of two worlds.

Sidi first appears in the Serpentwar saga in the main books (Shards of a broken crown). But features in the Krondor series (Jimmy the Hand) and Legends of the Riftwar series (Tear of the gods), which chronologically should put him right here amongst us.
The re-animation of Crazed Rabbit and his claim that he had no control over his actions suggests necromancy or similar.

But ... But Sidi aka Leso Varen completely possesses the bodies he takes over as his life force wanders from host to host.
CR was apparently remotely controlled, ref. the shadow watching and then cursing when CR lost. And the fact the host argues that Leso isnt in yet - suggests that we are facing something else.

Hmm true.

I've used the Riftwar legend series (barely) (Honoured Enemey, Murder in LaMut, Jimmy the Hand), Magician, Silverthorn, A Darkness as Sethanon and the Empire Trilogy.

Krondors Son's is afterwards and features Arutha's kids to Kesh, no? Only read them once. The plot against the empress?

Regardless, Leso Varen does not feature in this game.


I meant to point it out, outright when it happened but:

rhawn claims to have found a topknot of hair on Crazed Rabbit, who came back from the dead and was killed by fire.

*cough*Silverthorn*cough* *cough*enemy of a certain Hadati*cough*

Centurion1
11-16-2009, 01:36
so renata was a nighthawk???????

does anyone know anything about him?

KukriKhan
11-16-2009, 03:37
vote: Sasaki Kojiro

just on percentages. Seventeen remaining, probably 8 of whom mean the town harm... When I can't figure out what the heck is going on in a mafia game, one truth almost always rings clear: Sasaki = bad guy. (No offense, buddy).

Beskar
11-16-2009, 03:44
I am going to vote for Chaotix based on the results. Death is Yonder claimed to be a Mafia role and he got the result of "nothing", Chaotix has the same. So possible team mates?

Vote: Chaotix

Sasaki Kojiro
11-16-2009, 04:11
Vote:Beskar

I don't think DIY claimed to be a mafia role.

Beskar
11-16-2009, 04:18
Vote:Beskar

I don't think DIY claimed to be a mafia role.

He didn't? I thought he said he attacked rhawn?

Beskar
11-16-2009, 04:19
Unvote: Chaotix

Sorry, I made an error. He protected Rhawn. Sorry, misunderstood the post.

rhawn
11-16-2009, 04:20
Vote: Chaotix. Other suspects should include DiY and certainly Sasaki for his reactionary vote against Beskar. Best of luck to us.

rhawn
11-16-2009, 04:21
Wait what? I'll reread everything soon(when the pats/colts is finished). Unvote: Chaotix.

pevergreen
11-16-2009, 04:32
Unvote: Chaotix

Sorry, I made an error. He protected Rhawn. Sorry, misunderstood the post.

No one protected rhawn in last nights write up. He was attacked by two people (up until rhawn fighting back is the original writeup, the rest added by myself. To fit the orders, I needed to add the second person.)

Zain
11-16-2009, 05:17
Vote: Chaotix

Beskar
11-16-2009, 06:18
No one protect rhawn in last nights write up. He was attacked by two people (up until rhawn fighting back is the original writeup, the rest added by myself. To fit the orders, I needed to add the second person.)

Right, thank you for that clarification.

DIY was infact Mafia then. Also,

FOS: Sasaki Kojiro for his reactionary vote.

Vote: Chaotix, I would like people to also vote for either Chaotix and Sasaki. Since Sasaki's reactionary incidence, I am led to believe they are part of a Mafia group together.

Further Note: Anyone who can do protections, I would recommend you protect Rhawn tonight.

Captain Blackadder
11-16-2009, 06:34
vote chatoix

The man that has nothing is much more suspicious in nature. I suspect he will be the same as diy in that he is scum.

rhawn
11-16-2009, 06:45
Oh, my. I write this with a heavy heart as the Patriots squandered a 13 point lead, nay a 6 point lead with 2 minutes to go and went for it on 4th down.

Ok. Its clear that vote:Chaotix was in cahoots with DiY. They both had nothing, he should not see another sunset. I'm not sure of Sasaki's guilt. He was associated with a simple circlet, is he some sort of nobility? Prince Arutha? If so I'm sorry for outing you.

Chaotix voted for Zain. I think you all should make sure that Zain doesn't get lynched if the mafia wants him dead.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-16-2009, 06:59
unvote:beskar

I don't know that death is yonder is claiming mafia. We need someone with knowledge of the books to explain what kind of ethereal character would have a crossbow bolt go through him.

I thought for sure he wasn't because I didn't realize he been killed, the writeup makes it look like he's alive, mafia don't usually reveal themselves while living.

Death is yonder
11-16-2009, 07:01
Reclining on my chair, bemused by the entire scapegoat operation that is going on :laugh4:

I'm pretty sure pever is having a good laugh too :thumbsup:

I care not for worldly possessions, I don't know about HIS story :laugh4:


Beskar: Hermit robes

Rhawn, I'm very disappointed in you :no:

You stole a poor reclusive man's robe :clown:

atheotes
11-16-2009, 07:03
Khazaar was relaxing in the imperial suite. Nothing had bothered him for many hours now, he knew peace. The land was to know peace. The common people feared and as an extension of that, respected him, Emperor Tasaio. Footsteps approached, but Tasaio was not idle anymore. These were heavier than the normal sound of feet, these feet made strong noise.

Unsheathing his ever-present sword, Tasaio crouched into his battle ready pose, when a massive figure rounded the corner. It stood over two feet taller than him, in full metal armour, more pricely than his own. The figure unsheathed its massive metal sword, and cut Tasaio down where he stood.

death is yonder smiled slightly. He was happy with what he had done this night. As he turned around, a crossbow bolt shot right through him. The black cloaked figure, alone, ran away.


So DIY killed Khazaar? Maybe people who are familiar with the books can deduce his character from the description.

Vote: Chaotix

pevergreen
11-16-2009, 07:03
I don't know that death is yonder is claiming mafia. We need someone with knowledge of the books to explain what kind of ethereal character would have a crossbow bolt go through him.


It went through him. As in: "Ow, this crossbow bolt has been shot through me and now I am dieing"

Edit: You know who would be a cool character to have in here?

Boldar.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-16-2009, 07:19
So death is yonder says he cared not for worldly possessions, and that's why the thief didn't get anything from him.

It seems like he is claiming to have protected rhawn.

I don't think the thief results are hugely revealing, not on a "no possessions = mafia" level.

Vote:Beskar for the kind of poor case he liked to push in kung fu mafia when he was mafia.

Beskar
11-16-2009, 07:20
So yeah, DIY is Mafia or Anti-town or similar role.

He looks like a Midekian mafia member, he also lied about "protecting" Rhawn, and he could just killed the Tsunanai Emperor.

Thus, the midekian would want rid of him, as he is mafia and possibly just tried to kill one of their detectives, but also a greater extent would be the Tsuanai as he just killed their Emperor.

Either way, both Midekian and Tsunai would want rid of him.

If he was "nothing" (quite literially) Chaotix might have been just the same. So again, it might be wise for both Midekian and Tsunanai would want rid of him.

rhawn
11-16-2009, 07:21
Rhawn, I'm very disappointed in you :no:

You stole a poor reclusive man's robe :clown:
Yes. He makes an appearance at another time, in the film The Life of Brian. The events unfolding before you describe how that man came to be as he was. :clown:

Beskar
11-16-2009, 07:25
So death is yonder says he cared not for worldly possessions, and that's why the thief didn't get anything from him.

It seems like he is claiming to have protected rhawn.

I don't think the thief results are hugely revealing, not on a "no possessions = mafia" level.

Vote:Beskar for the kind of poor case he liked to push in kung fu mafia when he was mafia.

So wait... he lied about protecting rhawn and could be one of the two attackers on a investigator, he could have also alternatively killed the tsuanai emperor. Either way, it is pretty clear he is mafia or anti-town.

Since there isn't much information to go on, I want for the similar pattern of going for Chaotix as he got the same results.

So I'll FOS you again, Sasaki., especially since you made poorer arguments in the game.

Also, you should thank me, I stuck to your game till the end. :cry:

Sasaki Kojiro
11-16-2009, 08:04
How do you know he lied about protecting rhawn?

Mafia don't usually claim a role after being killed. Usually they quit posting, or make fun of the town :)

Beskar
11-16-2009, 08:40
How do you know he lied about protecting rhawn?

Mafia don't usually claim a role after being killed. Usually they quit posting, or make fun of the town :)

Because the Host just said?


No one protected rhawn in last nights write up. He was attacked by two people (up until rhawn fighting back is the original writeup, the rest added by myself. To fit the orders, I needed to add the second person.)

Is that 1-0 to me, Sasaki? :yes:

It was because of pevergreen's post I re-applied the vote on Chaotix. I took it off as I doubted, but since the host basically confirmed my suspicion, I went for the vote afterall.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-16-2009, 08:50
But the writeup had someone protecting him :embarassed:

Do we know who the mafia is? The minwabi are eliminated, and sigurd says the lizard people are another mafia? Are they the crossbow users? Maybe we have serial killers and vigilantes at work as well.

Sigurd
11-16-2009, 08:57
It stood over two feet taller than him, in full metal armour, more pricely than his own. The figure unsheathed its massive metal sword, and cut Tasaio down where he stood.

death is yonder smiled slightly. He was happy with what he had done this night. As he turned around, a crossbow bolt shot right through him. The black cloaked figure, alone, ran away.So DIY killed Khazaar? Maybe people who are familiar with the books can deduce his character from the description.

I suggested a Saaur warrior.
The Tsurani is a rather short people (average height at 5'), so we are looking for a 7 feet character.

We have the Valheru of course - but I know who plays Ashen - Shugar and it was not DiY. The rest of the Valheru is dead and will not live again until the Serpentwar saga. But then again, the Pantathians and the emerald queen, including the Saaur, are from the Serpentwar saga.

We have Eric Von Darkmoor, a large Kingdom warrior (unsure about height) - but also in the Serpentwar saga.

I am trying to wring my head of potential 7 feet armoured warriors. You have the Talnoy and Dasati, but they are not in the scope of this game.

I come up blank.
There is another clue in the johnhughthom kill : glowing sword


johnhughthomwas sitting in his chair, thinking, over and over, what he could do.
He was barely distracted when a figure entered the room, but when it advanced, he looked up.
This...thing was at least three heads taller than him, it was massive. It eminated power.
As he was about to shout out for help, the figure unsheathed a glowing sword and with a flick of the wrist, sliced clean through johnhughthom from top to bottom.
We know Ashen-Shugar had a golden sword, but not a glowing sword, or did it glow when used with magic? (can't remember). I can say that Ashen Shugar did not knowingly kill anyone, at any time in the game. However, considering what happened with Crazed Rabbit, the possibility that someone controlled Ashen-Shugar is there. But again - he is not DiY - so DiY was another 7 feet and armoured warrior.

Andres
11-16-2009, 09:05
So sorry for my lack of participation; RL is eating up my time.

Don't have a clue, so I'll just

Vote : Sasaki

I hope I can catch up reading on Thursday.

Again, my apologies :shame:

Sigurd
11-16-2009, 09:25
But the writeup had someone protecting him :embarassed:

Do we know who the mafia is? The minwabi are eliminated, and sigurd says the lizard people are another mafia? Are they the crossbow users? Maybe we have serial killers and vigilantes at work as well.
We don't know if the Pantathians is present. I know the host mentioned the Pantathians once in this game, but alluded to greater evils to worry over.

I was asking for investigations that could inform us of clues of the pantathians. We have the Hadati with us, which should indicate that the Moredhel is on rampage. And since we are dealing with the books Silverthorn (the intro of this game) we should face Murmandamus a Moredhel general and his undead Black Slayers. Which indicates necromancy. Coming to think about it, Murmandamus was a Pantathian priest in disguise with necromancy powers.

DiY and the killer of johnhughthom could be a large Black slayer.

pever said that this game covers 9 books.

Let's see.

Magician (1 or 2 books)
Silverthorn
A Darkness at Sethanon

Daughter of the Empire
Servant of the Empire
Mistress of the Empire

Prince of the Blood?
The King's Buccaneer?

If those are the books - There is the possibility of a pantathian threat, but not as dire as in the later books.

Beskar
11-16-2009, 09:28
Is there any chance DIY is another Midekian God like ATPG was (or equal in strength)? Possible not on a pro-town alignment, but in a mafia/anti-town capiticity?

(Just inregards to how a crossbolt just passed straight through such an imposing figure with ease.)

pevergreen
11-16-2009, 09:51
pever said that this game covers 9 books.

Let's see.

Magician (1 book, 2 parts)
Silverthorn
A Darkness at Sethanon

Daughter of the Empire
Servant of the Empire
Mistress of the Empire

Jimmy the Hand
Murder in LaMut
Honoured Enemy


Fixed.



I suggested a Saaur warrior.
The Tsurani is a rather short people (average height at 5'), so we are looking for a 7 feet character.

We have the Valheru of course - but I know who plays Ashen - Shugar and it was not DiY. The rest of the Valheru is dead and will not live again until the Serpentwar saga. But then again, the Pantathians and the emerald queen, including the Saaur, are from the Serpentwar saga.

No Sauur, or Emerald Queen. Not in those books.

However, you are wrong about the Valheru.

In the final battle under Sethanon, in defence of the Lifestone, Pug, Tomas, Arutha and Macros (amongst others) fight off Draken-Korin and Murmandamus.

pevergreen
11-16-2009, 09:54
Is there any chance DIY is another Midekian God like ATPG was (or equal in strength)? Possible not on a pro-town alignment, but in a mafia/anti-town capiticity?

(Just inregards to how a crossbolt just passed straight through such an imposing figure with ease.)

It was a big bolt.At close range, crossbow bolts have power.


How did it pass through him? Because the narration is just the means to an end. Dead guy was killed by killer, pever makes killer do stuff.

Sprig
11-16-2009, 10:23
vote: Chaotix - I take nothing as a bad sign.

Renata
11-16-2009, 13:03
If this is true.. then She (not he) was a Nighthawk. (Jimmy the Hand got a crossbow from her).
Now... anyone who knows her associates should let the town know. This information would be top priority.

Strange that you missed the reference to the poison ring in the write-up.

pevergreen
11-16-2009, 13:42
Strange that you missed the reference to the poison ring in the write-up.

refers to this line from your death scene, I presume?



The figure waved his wands, and said "Why don't you lie down, no need to lose a tooth about it. Or a ring."


edit: that should be hands. Misspelled in the writeup then, I guess.

Renata
11-16-2009, 14:16
Oh yeah, the tooth too. You wouldn't think Sigurd would miss something like that.

Sigurd
11-16-2009, 15:55
Oh yeah, the tooth too. You wouldn't think Sigurd would miss something like that.
You think you have it bad?
I did a small calculation and found out I read the Riftwar saga before I married my wife and right after my military service. But I read Magician before I went into the military which is nearly 20 years ago.
So I finished the Riftwar saga roughly 15 years ago including the two Krondor's Sons books. I read the Empire series after I married at some point - can't remember exactly.

I didn't remember the Nighthawk rings with poison.

And the Valheru at the Darkness at Sethanon I didn't remember either. Apparently when Murmandamus died at Sethanon, a rift was opnened and released one Valheru, Draken-Korin, which Tomas now with the full might of Ashen Shugar defeated by running his sword through Draken-Korin and into the Lifestone, which released all the rest of the Valheru spirits. But they were soon trapped in the Lifestone forever. I have to see if I have that book and read it again.

Karo
11-16-2009, 20:38
You think you have it bad?
I did a small calculation and found out I read the Riftwar saga before I married my wife and right after my military service. But I read Magician before I went into the military which is nearly 20 years ago.
So I finished the Riftwar saga roughly 15 years ago including the two Krondor's Sons books. I read the Empire series after I married at some point - can't remember exactly.

I didn't remember the Nighthawk rings with poison.

And the Valheru at the Darkness at Sethanon I didn't remember either. Apparently when Murmandamus died at Sethanon, a rift was opnened and released one Valheru, Draken-Korin, which Tomas now with the full might of Ashen Shugar defeated by running his sword through Draken-Korin and into the Lifestone, which released all the rest of the Valheru spirits. But they were soon trapped in the Lifestone forever. I have to see if I have that book and read it again.

And what about Tomas couldn't he be the one who killed the emperor he is the only living Valheru

Sigurd
11-16-2009, 22:11
And what about Tomas couldn't he be the one who killed the emperor he is the only living Valheru
Inconceivable... He is too nice of a person to do such an atrocity.

Beskar
11-16-2009, 23:31
I think Sigurd was Tomas, hence the Whtie Tabard he was found to have. I did a google search for White Tabard and I saw Thomas's name in connection to it.


tomas doesnt have a breastplate it is just gold chain mail with a white tabard with a dragon on it.


Dolgan pulled long on his pipe and looked at the white tabard Tomas wore. Seven times in govt. battle, and free from stain. Dirt, blood, and all other

pevergreen
11-16-2009, 23:32
Being audited again, round will be over at the right time, but no writeup for a few hours.

Tomas does indeed have a white tabard

Joooray
11-16-2009, 23:40
Sorry guys, I have no time to read up on all of this. So I'll have to just join the bandwagon and Vote: Chaotix just not get WoGed. :sweatdrop:

scottishranger
11-17-2009, 00:02
Vote: Jooray.

Avoiding the WOG eh?

(I really dont know what to vote for, so confused still)

Centurion1
11-17-2009, 00:11
Vote: sasaki kojiro

i think case on chaotix is OK but i think sasaki has been acting quite scummy. far too defensive of certain players.

pevergreen
11-17-2009, 01:28
32 minutes left.

pevergreen
11-17-2009, 03:59
Chaotix was under verbal fire from everyone today, he did not understand why. Apparently someone had sneaked into his room, and found nothing. But how can one that does not truely exist have a room? The crowd wanted blood, but Chaotix could not be found. In fact, no one had ever seen him. It was as though he was dead all along, never alive.

The crowd wanted blood, and one person pointed towards Zain. Zain felt fear again, not felt since the first time that Zain had been alone in a glade...or so Zain thought anyway. The long gone bruises still pained Zain. Zain, was, however, granted an honourable death by the blade.



Alive: 15/43
Double A
Sasaki Kojiro
Beskar
atheotes
Sprig
Captain Blackadder
Joooray
Centurion1
Csargo (Ichigo)
Andres
YLC
scottishranger
rhawn
KukriKhan
Captain C (Replacing Tratorix)

Killed: 13/43
Major Robert Dump
Yaseikhaan
Shlin28
Subotan
Sigurd
johnhughthom
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
GeneralHankerchief
Renata
Khazaar
death is yonder
Crazed Rabbit
Karo

Lynched: 10/43
White_Eyes:D
LittleGrizzly
A1_Unit
Beefy187
A Very Super Market
Elite Ferret
AskThePizzaGuy
Reenk Roink
Chaotix
Zain

Wrath of Camel'd: 5/43
CountArach
Iskander 3.1
a completely inoffensive name
Greyblades
Lord Winter

It is now Night 6. Night will end in 24 hours and 1 minute.

Sigurd
11-17-2009, 10:16
Nighttime sharpens, heightens each sensation
Darkness stirs and wakes imagination
Silently the senses abandon their defenses ...

I can't think of who Chaotix could have been, but I suspect Zain was Mara-anni Acoma.

pevergreen
11-18-2009, 00:52
Just giving everyone a bit of help.

At least 6 more people need to die for the game to end.

pevergreen
11-18-2009, 04:21
rhawn was sneaking along a highway, quite high up, when he spotted something moving in the dark. The figure slowly receeded into the shadows, but rhawn did not move. That proved to be his undoing, as the knife that had been thrown took him in the neck...

Morning had come, again the group had gathered. Only 10 appeared though. The ten of them discussed what was happening, and awaited the arrival of the others, or confirmation of their death.

Sasaki Kojiro was waking up, rubbing sleep from weary eys, when a figure blocked the doorway. Having heard how this person comes into the doorway, Sasaki was about to call for help, when the figure yelled out "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!" and stamped his staff into the ground.

In that instant, they were teleported, standing on the clouds above the city of Kesh.

"You will fall Sasaki, and you will be devoured by the creatures below."

As the figure began to dissapate the magical platform, which must have been invisible, Sasaki reached out and stopped him.

"You shall not."

The figure looked on helplessly, as he was prevented from doing anything by Sasaki.

"Then I shall leave..."

"I think that would be wise." A figure stepped out of the clouds.

"You shall not kill Sasaki tonight."

The robed man turned to leave, however, yet another figure blocked his way.

This...thing grinned.

"In fact, you shall not be leaving either."

The newcomer hissed and killed Beskar, whose robes crumpled around him.

"Filthy sorcerer, you have no power against her."



Csargo was sitting peacefully on the ground, having declined the use of chairs. He replayed a conversation he had with an eager young boy, many years ago. How the times had changed. A man hawked and spit in front of him. He did not know who this grubby man was, but he did know that after he had been stabbed clean through, that he was not going to live...





Alive: 12/43
Double A
Sasaki Kojiro
atheotes
Sprig
Captain Blackadder
Joooray
Centurion1
Andres
YLC
scottishranger
KukriKhan
Captain C (Replacing Tratorix)

Killed: 16/43
Major Robert Dump
Yaseikhaan
Shlin28
Subotan
Sigurd
johnhughthom
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
GeneralHankerchief
Renata
Khazaar
death is yonder
Crazed Rabbit
Karo
rhawn
Csargo (Ichigo)
Beskar

Lynched: 10/43
White_Eyes:D
LittleGrizzly
A1_Unit
Beefy187
A Very Super Market
Elite Ferret
AskThePizzaGuy
Reenk Roink
Chaotix
Zain

Wrath of Camel'd: 5/43
CountArach
Iskander 3.1
a completely inoffensive name
Greyblades
Lord Winter

It is now Day 7. Day will end in 24 hours and 39 minutes.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-18-2009, 04:35
How do you like them apples.

KukriKhan
11-18-2009, 04:56
Just giving everyone a bit of help.

At least 6 more people need to die for the game to end.

So, after this announcement, rhawn and Beskar are killed, and Sasaki is both spared and defended.

Boys and girls, you do the math, then, you know what that means: it's REVEAL TIME, all the living players: Put up your best real or fake role PMs and let's start the dance.

vote: Sasaki

Dish, my friend, or die.

Sprig
11-18-2009, 05:00
So, after this announcement, rhawn and Beskar are killed, and Sasaki is both spared and defended.

Boys and girls, you do the math, then, you know what that means: it's REVEAL TIME, all the living players: Put up your best real or fake role PMs and let's start the dance.

vote: Sasaki

Dish, my friend, or die.

You have the wrong idea about Sasaki, You are far to quick to jump on him. Besker tried to kill Sasaki. But thankfully he was protected.

It is time for you to reveal.

Beskar
11-18-2009, 06:37
Erm.... I didn't try anything against Sasaki Last night...

Sasaki Kojiro
11-18-2009, 06:42
Oh the tangled webs we weave, when we set out to deceive.

Beskar
11-18-2009, 07:01
If I was decieving, I wouldn't be very annoyed. I never ordered any attacks on you and the fact for whatever reason it says I did and I died is ridiculous.

If you want Sasaki's role, it is [Cencored]. I think I wouldn't have attacked some one on the same side as me.

Captain C
11-18-2009, 07:05
I'm sorry I haven't been participating, I'll go ahead and roleclaim.


You (along with Kukrikhan) are a grey warrior, an honourless man on Kelewan. You now roam the land with no House under the command of your leader Lujan (Iskander 3.1). As a group, you may steal from one person, gaining some infomation on them, or roleblock one person. Rumour has it though that a strange lady of the Acoma has some radical ideas...

pevergreen
11-18-2009, 08:07
If I was decieving, I wouldn't be very annoyed. I never ordered any attacks on you and the fact for whatever reason it says I did and I died is ridiculous.

If you want Sasaki's role, it is [Cencored]. I think I wouldn't have attacked some one on the same side as me.

I have PM'd Beskar about this.

I expect a formal apology.

:smug:

Beskar
11-18-2009, 08:14
I have PM'd Beskar about this.

I expect a formal apology.

:smug:

Nope. All you said I was going to die anyway, as the Mafia killed me. So me dying is correct.

The so-called attack on Sasaki however is still incorrect. As I worked out who he was, so I wasn't going to touch him.

pevergreen
11-18-2009, 08:21
Enough of this.

You are dead.

Sigurd
11-18-2009, 08:23
Nope. All you said I was going to die anyway, as the Mafia killed me. So me dying is correct.

The so-called attack on Sasaki however is still incorrect. As I worked out who he was, so I wasn't going to touch him.

We have to work out this within the rules. It could be Sasaki aren't responsible for your death. It is obvious that you were attacked by a third figure.
Your attacker hissed --- the same hissed as found in Renata's death? Could your attacker have been a Nighthawk? the kill method is not mentioned, but you probably died a Obi Wan Kenobi death.

Captain Blackadder
11-18-2009, 08:25
Ok time to do a quick role reveal I have found the crossbow killer that lurks within us. I have the abilty to do two investigations a night which I gained only after the Emperor was betrayed Here are my results I hope that someone who knows the books is better able to tell me what they all mean.

Sasaki: circlet, flowing robes, leaves
GH: Chess pieces, dispatch notes and infomation pages.
ATPG: Blue robes, grain, mystic scroll
CR: Murad of the Moredhel clan near Yabon.
death is yonder: Some figure you cannot comprehend. It is too powerful to risk closer investigation.
Ichigo: leaves, simple robes and now, a whole lot of blood.
Centurion 1: Black robes, hawk medallion, heavy crossbow

Notice centurion1's items seems to me he is scum

vote centurion1

Sigurd
11-18-2009, 08:33
Ok time to do a quick role reveal I have found the crossbow killer that lurks within us. I have the abilty to do two investigations a night which I gained only after the Emperor was betrayed Here are my results I hope that someone who knows the books is better able to tell me what they all mean.

Sasaki: circlet, flowing robes, leaves
GH: Chess pieces, dispatch notes and infomation pages.
ATPG: Blue robes, grain, mystic scroll
CR: Murad of the Moredhel clan near Yabon.
death is yonder: Some figure you cannot comprehend. It is too powerful to risk closer investigation.
Ichigo: leaves, simple robes and now, a whole lot of blood.
Centurion 1: Black robes, hawk medallion, heavy crossbow

Notice centurion1's items seems to me he is scum

vote centurion1

Ah this is good stuff...

Too bad most of those characters are dead and hence not important anymore... except for one of those investigations.

Crazed Rabbit : Murad of the Moredhel.
Centurion 1 : Nighthawk

Death is Yonder seemed to be Valheru and Chaotix probably where one too.

This means dear players - we need to get rid of the moredhel and the Nighthawks to win.
Reveal away.

From rhawns investigations CountA had a scrap of black cloth. The last Nighthawk?

Crazed Rabbit
11-18-2009, 08:49
Can you tell me what that means Sigurd? I haven't read any of the books.

CR

Captain Blackadder
11-18-2009, 08:52
Does anyone know what the leaves indicate a lot of people have them and I am curious as to what they mean.

Sigurd
11-18-2009, 09:02
Can you tell me what that means Sigurd? I haven't read any of the books.

CR
Well, I am not intimate with this particular game's mechanics, but I know a few things from the books. (pever has stated though that having a knowledge of the lore is not necessarily helpful)

I know that the Nighthawks are a band of assassins. They were adversaries to the good guys in the books. pever has confirmed that the Midkemian Mafia are assassins. And there were kills done by crossbows. Cross reference this with the public investigations and kill descriptions, I would say that the assessment of Nighthawks = mafia is correct.

If we should go by Captain B's investigations, we should assume that Centurion 1 is a Nighthawk.
(hawk medallion, black clothing and crossbow).

On the other hand I also know that the Moredhel is evil - and an powerful adversary to the Kingdom of the Isles. The Kingdom is the good guys and I therefore assume that the moredhel is the bad guys.

Now.. I was led to believe that you were a Hadati, but Captain B. names you a moredhel. You can of course not reveal, but for now I draw the conclusion that we have moredhel in the game wether you was one or not.

Sigurd
11-18-2009, 09:05
Does anyone know what the leaves indicate a lot of people have them and I am curious as to what they mean.
Yes.. I know.
But can't tell as this is knowledge that I gained while alive. A slight skill of googlefoo should help you.
Where do you find leaves?

Sprig
11-18-2009, 09:05
Does anyone know what the leaves indicate a lot of people have them and I am curious as to what they mean.

Just a type of people. They mean no harm.

oh and Vote: Centurion1

Centurion1
11-18-2009, 16:19
Thats a lie. I am not a nighthawk. I am called Arutha, prince of krondor. :

Sorry i cant really elaborate i dont know anything about these books.

[B]Vote: Captain Blackadder

i can roleblock one person at night and my condition to win is to survive so i can pursue the resotration of my kingdom?

those results are forged. At least mine are. I looked up more on the nighthawks they dont wear black robes.......

and if those results are true then diy is the massive god man.

Andres
11-18-2009, 16:57
Hawk medaillon = night hawk. They were always on the side of the bad guys in the books.

Vote : Centurion1

Ferret
11-18-2009, 17:39
Thats a lie. I am not a nighthawk. I am called Arutha, prince of krondor.

Pfft, this guy is scum, he's not Arutha.

Karo
11-18-2009, 17:41
Thats a lie. I am not a nighthawk. I am called Arutha, prince of krondor. :

Sorry i cant really elaborate i dont know anything about these books.

[B]Vote: Captain Blackadder

i can roleblock one person at night and my condition to win is to survive so i can pursue the resotration of my kingdom?

those results are forged. At least mine are. I looked up more on the nighthawks they dont wear black robes.......

and if those results are true then diy is the massive god man.

This is a lie the night hawk wears black. So people don't let the mafia escape lynching :skull:

Captain C
11-18-2009, 17:46
Vote: Centurion1,

Somebody is lying, but I'm guessing it's you.

I am a little suspicious of the fact that Captain B didn't give his own role, but then again (I think) the mod said giving away your name was dangerous, so I can see why he might not want to claim.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-18-2009, 18:53
Vote:Centurion

Centurion1
11-18-2009, 19:50
sure whatever, we'll see i guess.

you guys arent planning on lynching the invincible god man.....

Joooray
11-18-2009, 23:49
As I said before I'm looking for Arutha, so I contacted Centurion after he claimed the role here.
His answer though sounded awfully fishy, so I'll have to Vote: Centurion1.

Captain Blackadder
11-19-2009, 00:06
Could it be possible to get some votes on some other people otherwise I am going to get lynched here due to one vote.

Ferret
11-19-2009, 00:16
Somehow Joooray, I don't think you'll be finding him any time soon...

atheotes
11-19-2009, 01:38
Chaotix was under verbal fire from everyone today, he did not understand why. Apparently someone had sneaked into his room, and found nothing. But how can one that does not truely exist have a room? The crowd wanted blood, but Chaotix could not be found. In fact, no one had ever seen him. It was as though he was dead all along, never alive.




death is yonder: Some figure you cannot comprehend. It is too powerful to risk closer investigation.
Centurion 1: Black robes, hawk medallion, heavy crossbow

vote centurion1

based off the descriptions above i think Chaotix and DIY were partners.

And we have also found atleast 2 nighthawks - Renata and Centurion.

but we still had 3 kills last night. the killer who hawked and killed Csargo was probably Centurion.

Vote: Centurion

pevergreen
11-19-2009, 01:49
the killer who hawked

Just in case it wasnt clear (I cant remember what i said exactly) but he spat on the ground.

Just making sure its there.

atheotes
11-19-2009, 01:54
alright, i dont know the significance of the "spat on the ground" but i guess i am wrong with that killer being a nighthawk.

Centurion1
11-19-2009, 01:59
ill tell yah what you are wrong about! me being a mafia!

Sasaki Kojiro
11-19-2009, 02:13
Could it be possible to get some votes on some other people otherwise I am going to get lynched here due to one vote.

unvote:centurion, vote:double A


Need another one on double A, probably a couple to be safe. He seems to be into the game at times and then just talks about how he doesn't know what's going on.