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rory_20_uk

10-26-2009, 14:45

She's a myopic moron whose take on the world is utterly polarised. "The Democrats are wrong because, the Republicans are right because..." appears to be her stand in for analysis.

Iraq was a fly trap for Islamic crazies. Any thought that it might have helped create as many as it killed, or the massive cost to the USA and the world in general, or that Iran is now unopposed in the middle east (bar Israel) as a power? And the fact that the "crazies" are certainly not a spent force despite the massive loss of life doesn't appear to get a mention.

Taliban were removed from in 21 days - is she serious? They had the sense to stop sitting in obvious buildings but they're still in power. She might like to look at the Communist takeover in China or Vietnam to see how utterly facile this fact is.

Elections, schools and electricity = progess / war won.
If the news stated that North Korea was prosperous and free, is it then true? If so the North Korean Press have been saying that for years. Yes, schools are opened, and often firebombed or otherwise destroyed. The generators for the electricity required an armoured convoy. Will it last? If the Taleban want, it's pretty easy to destroy.

It is much easier to get into a war than out of one; Afghanistan should never have been started and Iraq should have been sorted out in 1991.

Leaving aside that the whole mess was under Republican rule, damn the Democrats for causing it all... :inquisitive:

~:smoking:

CountArach

10-26-2009, 14:56

I read the author and closed the link. At least warn me before I contribute to the hit counter of anything she writes.

She's a myopic moron whose take on the world is utterly polarised.
This exactly.

Vuk

10-26-2009, 15:07

I read the author and closed the link. At least warn me before I contribute to the hit counter of anything she writes.

This exactly.

And you sir are soooo enlightened and educated and critical that you refuse to even read an article when you know someone does not agree with you. Heck, I even read the garbage that Michael Moore (on) writes.
(And BTW, Cuba's health care system is so bad and so costly that they are now looking to move toward a free market one. So much for the BS in Sicko...)
Someone who reads only what they want to hear knows nothing at all. You cannot know something without knowing the arguments against it.

rory_20_uk

10-26-2009, 15:12

And you sir are soooo enlightened and educated and critical that you refuse to even read an article when you know someone does not agree with you. Heck, I even read the garbage that Michael Moore (on) writes.
(And BTW, Cuba's health care system is so bad and so costly that they are now looking to move toward a free market one. So much for the BS in Sicko...)
Someone who reads only what they want to hear knows nothing at all. You cannot know something without knowing the arguments against it.

Looked at the costs of the American health system recently? I have. I did a presentation on it last thursday. Quite scary reading really. How a system can cost so much to so many and treat so few, with truely dreadful health outcomes almost across the board. The per capita state aid systems are almost as expensive as many other countries universal coverage - although only are c. 45% of the total cost!

~:smoking:

Meneldil

10-26-2009, 15:30

Vuk

10-26-2009, 15:40

I didn't know some people still cared about Ann Coulter. More importantly, I didn't know some people still believed the utter pieces of garbage she writes every once in a while.

My 14 year old brother could write a more interesting and more correct analysis. I wonder how these people become famous in the US *shrug*

Edit: And count me in the "I closed the window as soon as I saw the name of the author" category. I'm perfectly willing to read analysis made by the other side of the political spectrum. Poorly written half-arsed propaganda is a whole other matter.

Edit2: And she's a he.

Is your post an example of the type of interesting and correct article that your brother could write? You know what Meneldil? Anyone could say the same thing about half or more of the liberal commentators out there with a lot more to back up what they say. This thread has only one actually criticism of what she wrote...which surprises me, because they usually are just all blind rejections without a bit of rebuttal.

Mooks

10-26-2009, 16:13

Once the U.S. got control of Iraq's oil fields, the Shia, Sunni and Kurds could decide to either prosper together or starve together. (And it's not just oil: They're basically sitting on top of most of the world's proven reserves of cab drivers)

I loled

seireikhaan

10-26-2009, 16:21

It's always something with the Muslims. You either have mostly sane people governed by a crazy dictator -- Iraq, Iran and Syria (also California and Michigan) -- or a crazy people governed by relatively sane leaders -- Pakistan and Afghanistan, post-U.S. invasion (also Vermont and Minnesota). There are also insane people ruled by insane leaders (but enough about the House Democratic Caucus). Sane people with sane rulers has not been fully tried yet.
And with that, I was done with the article. Once more, Coulter proves herself to be a petulant child, desperately in need of more attention. Coulter does not appear to be motivated by any more than the desire to promote herself and slander liberalism, multiculturalism, and all else that does not conform with her worldview. She paints with the broadest strokes, and strikes venomously at any who have the gall to point this out.

Oh, and this rather irritated me as well:

But as our military under Bush showed the world in 21 days, scimitar-wielding savages are no match for the voluntary civilian troops of a free people.
:inquisitive: :inquisitive: :inquisitive:

JAG

10-26-2009, 16:48

Looked at the costs of the American health system recently? I have. I did a presentation on it last thursday. Quite scary reading really. How a system can cost so much to so many and treat so few, with truely dreadful health outcomes almost across the board. The per capita state aid systems are almost as expensive as many other countries universal coverage - although only are c. 45% of the total cost!

~:smoking:

Does this mean you like the NHS then? I always thought you were a consistent critic? Anyway, great points.

As to the article, she cannot be taken seriously. ANYONE who is so bias towards one political party and so critical towards another has to have a twisted warp of reality. Just because she is on the right it doesn't mean that the democrats are evil and do everything wrong - it is people like her who create seriously damaging polarisation in society. No time for her.

rory_20_uk

10-26-2009, 16:57

No system is perfect. For the money that goes in, the American system is far, far worse.
I think that there are many aspects of the NHS that need to be addressed in a systematic manner, rather than merely the occasional cosmetic change - a review here, a reranding exercise there. Most of these would make difficult choices, so don't hold your breath...

~:smoking:

Sarmatian

10-26-2009, 17:07

I did try to take it seriously, but then there was this sentence

Now nearly all denizens of the Middle East want the U.S. to invade them :laugh4:

Tristuskhan

10-26-2009, 17:47

Woah.....
"Bush removed the Taliban from power, captured or killed the lunatics and, for the next seven years, about the only news we heard out of Afghanistan were occasional announcements of parliamentary elections, new schools, water and electricity plants."

Il n'est pas de pire aveugle que celui qui ne veut rien voir (roughly translated: the worstly blind men are those who don't want to see.....)

How strange that a simple rural french like me heard more and worst things about Afghanistan those last eight years than a famed and influent american journalist?

What I think of people like her, see my SIG

johnhughthom

10-26-2009, 17:49

I don't get it, what is she trying to say? Beyond Democrats suck, Republicans rule?

HoreTore

10-26-2009, 18:48

I don't know whether this woman was lobotomized or just needs one.

This has to be the biggest crap I've ever read on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I won't do a rebuttal though; I would go numb from the sheer stupidity of her points.

Samurai Waki

10-26-2009, 19:29

Ann Coulter comes across as a woman on a 24/7 bleed. I'm sorry, there's just no other way I can get my head around the fact that she's such a self diluted :daisy:.

Vuk

10-26-2009, 19:34

Ann Coulter comes across as a woman on a 24/7 bleed. I'm sorry, there's just no other way I can get my head around the fact that she's such a self diluted :daisy:.
Someone has anger issues. :P Smoke the peace pipe my man! Political commentary should not move you to that. It is their job to be angry, and ours to sit back and laugh. :beam:

I did try to take it seriously, but then there was this sentence

:laugh4:

lol, that is the problem Sarmatian, you SHOULDN'T take it seriously! Or...at least not THAT seriously. lol She uses humour a LOT in her articles. You just gotta learn when she is joking and when she is not. lol

HoreTore

10-26-2009, 19:38

lol, that is the problem Sarmatian, you SHOULDN'T take it seriously! Or...at least not THAT seriously. lol She uses humour a LOT in her articles. You just gotta learn when she is joking and when she is not. lol

Her "humour" betrays her prejudices, methinks.

Vuk

10-26-2009, 19:44

Her "humour" betrays her prejudices, methinks.

lmao, that is the point. She uses exagerrated humour to get her points across. Don't use prejudices as a dirty word either, because anyone who says that they don't have any is either dishonest, or doesn't understand what the word means.

Strike For The South

10-26-2009, 19:57

HoreTore

10-26-2009, 19:57

lmao, that is the point. She uses exagerrated humour to get her points across. Don't use prejudices as a dirty word either, because anyone who says that they don't have any is either dishonest, or doesn't understand what the word means.

So..... You agree that she's a bigoted moron, and you're ok with that?

Anyway, what she wrote was nonsensical garbage. None of it was consistant with reality, only with her own delusional mind.

Vuk

10-26-2009, 20:04

So..... You agree that she's a bigoted moron, and you're ok with that?

Anyway, what she wrote was nonsensical garbage. None of it was consistant with reality, only with her own delusional mind.

Having prejudices does not make you a bigoted moron! You have them, I have them, the Pope has them, the Confucius had them, even Bruce Lee had them! ALL humans have them, but that does not mean that they are bigoted morons! (esp not Bruce Lee)

HoreTore

10-26-2009, 20:08

Having prejudices does not make you a bigoted moron! You have them, I have them, the Pope has them, the Confucius had them, even Bruce Lee had them! ALL humans have them, but that does not mean that they are bigoted morons! (esp not Bruce Lee)

Depends on what those prejudices are.

Ann Coulter's prejudices does make her a bigoted moron.

Example: I have prejudices against people who drink the Ringnes brand of beer. I don't understand them, I feel sorry for them and I immediately start wondering what's wrong with them. I don't think anyone would consider that as anything other than quite harmless...

Ann Coulter, however, look upon people outside her conservative christian circle as primitive savages with no right to live. That's a very dangerous prejudice, and yes, it makes her a bigoted moron.

Strike For The South

10-26-2009, 20:08

Vuk

10-26-2009, 20:13

Do you belive this? Like honestly?

You sound like every petty bigot I have ever met.

lmao SFTS! Do you not recognize the irony there!? You prejudice makes you believe that anyone with prejudices is a bigot! Do you not recognize your prejudice right there? You have shown your prejudices sooo many times on this forum (as has everyone). If you equated that with bigotry, then EVERYONE in the world would be a bigot. lmao

Meneldil

10-26-2009, 20:18

Is your post an example of the type of interesting and correct article that your brother could write? You know what Meneldil? Anyone could say the same thing about half or more of the liberal commentators out there with a lot more to back up what they say. This thread has only one actually criticism of what she wrote...which surprises me, because they usually are just all blind rejections without a bit of rebuttal.

Did you actually read the article?
Let's have a look at it:

Now nearly all denizens of the Middle East want the U.S. to invade them.
As Thomas Friedman inadvertently admitted, Lebanese voters credit their recent free election, in which the voters threw out Hezbollah, to President Bush.
Brave Iranian students who protested the tyrant Ahmadinejad did so because of Iraq
But as our military under Bush showed the world in 21 days, scimitar-wielding savages are no match for the voluntary civilian troops of a free people.
What the hell? Does anyone actually buy this? Does anyone actually blame Obama for Irak and Afghanistan?
She's just making points out of thin air. And then, her points are so ridiculously biased and stupid, it's not even funny to read them. Once upon a time I thought she trully was one of these american nutjobs completely out of touch with reality, but I'm more and more convinced she's just a real-life professional troll.

Someone has anger issues. :P Smoke the peace pipe my man! Political commentary should not move you to that. It is their job to be angry, and ours to sit back and laugh.
When a political commentary purpose is to brainwash the reader, I have every goddam right to be angry phrase deleted by moderator. But then as you said, she's not the only one doing that. She's just really good at spouting nonsense.
When a political commentator writes nonsense, he should be publicly humiliated. This job is way too easy: any moron can write whatever goes through his mind without ever facing the consequences of his own crap.

As for something more correct about Afghanistan:
- Nobody cared about it because everyone focused on Irak
- Things got pretty bad while people focused on Irak
- People realize it and go "ZOMG".
Note that it's also shorter, less biased and probably more accurate than everything produced by Ann Coulter throughout her whole life (despite being a mere oversimplification).

Strike For The South

10-26-2009, 20:19

lmao SFTS! Do you not recognize the irony there!? You prejudice makes you believe that anyone with prejudices is a bigot! Do you not recognize your prejudice right there? You have shown your prejudices sooo many times on this forum (as has everyone). If you equated that with bigotry, then EVERYONE in the world would be a bigot. lmao

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I have no illusions. People have prejudices but simply becuase they have them doesn't mean they should use them.

Coulter is a retarded Bos-Wash blueblood whom has never had to work a day in her life. Her entire life has been handed to her on a platter and she sits on her ivory tower passing judgements.

Ice

10-26-2009, 20:27

Vuk, how anyone can defend this woman is beyond me. Thank you to all who saved me the time of even opening the article.

drone

10-26-2009, 20:28

Once upon a time I thought she trully was one of these american nutjobs completely out of touch with reality, but I'm more and more convinced she's just a real-life professional troll.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

And she's a very well paid troll at that.

Vuk

10-26-2009, 20:41

****

First of all, your posting manner is sickening (esp the rape fantasy), and I have reported your post. That aside, I will do my best to answer you in a more respectful way than you cared to answer me.
First of all, you missed completely what I said about humour. Second of all, your entire post is nothing but bias, opinion, and hostility. If that is your attempt to one up Ann, you did a really poor job. I will try to make you understand this, this is NOT the Soviet Union. We do not brutalize or rape someone because we do not like their opinions. (nor do we torture them or send them through re-education). Guess what? If everyone had the right to brutalize everyone who wrote anything that they did not like, no one would ever write anything, because everyone thinks that something is garbage. That is the reason that we let trash heads like Moore write and make movies. It is his right (something we respect in America)
If you are truly convinced that the government should punish people who publish what they do not like, then maybe you should join Putin in thinking that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a tragedy.

No not everyone is prejudices is a bigot, however using that as your first line of defense and adding in your post history it becomes pretty clear.

I have no illusions. People have prejudices but simply becuase they have them doesn't mean they should use them.

Coulter is a retarded Bos-Wash blueblood whom has never had to work a day in her life. Her entire life has been handed to her on a platter and she sits on her ivory tower passing judgements.

Shouldn't use prejudices hey? You used at least five in the post you just made. Sorry Strike, but now you are coming across as a hypocrite.

EDIT: and thank you for calling me a bigot. I think though that if someone was gonna throw insinuations around, they would have a much better basis looking at your own posting history. We could say this back and forth, how about agreeing not to scream "BIGOT!!@@!!!" at each other when we get frustrated? If makes us look rather bigotted when we start doing that. :beam:

HoreTore

10-26-2009, 21:00

First of all, your posting manner is sickening (esp the rape fantasy), and I have reported your post. That aside, I will do my best to answer you in a more respectful way than you cared to answer me.
First of all, you missed completely what I said about humour. Second of all, your entire post is nothing but bias, opinion, and hostility. If that is your attempt to one up Ann, you did a really poor job. I will try to make you understand this, this is NOT the Soviet Union. We do not brutalize or rape someone because we do not like their opinions. (nor do we torture them or send them through re-education). Guess what? If everyone had the right to brutalize everyone who wrote anything that they did not like, no one would ever write anything, because everyone thinks that something is garbage. That is the reason that we let trash heads like more write and make movies. It is his right (something we respect in America)
If you are truly convinced that the government should punish people who publish what they do not like, then maybe you should join Putin in thinking that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a tragedy.

Shouldn't use prejudices hey? You used at least five in the post you just made. Sorry Strike, but now you are coming across as a hypocrite.

EDIT: and thank you for calling me a bigot. I think though that if someone was gonna throw insinuations around, they would have a much better basis looking at your own posting history. We could say this back and forth, how about agreeing not to scream "BIGOT!!@@!!!" at each other when we get frustrated? If makes us look rather bigotted when we start doing that. :beam:

Well, I can certainly see where your fascination of Ann Coulter comes from....

Strike For The South

10-26-2009, 21:03

Shouldn't use prejudices hey? You used at least five in the post you just made. Sorry Strike, but now you are coming across as a hypocrite.

EDIT: and thank you for calling me a bigot. I think though that if someone was gonna throw insinuations around, they would have a much better basis looking at your own posting history. We could say this back and forth, how about agreeing not to scream "BIGOT!!@@!!!" at each other when we get frustrated? If makes us look rather bigotted when we start doing that. :beam:

Considering Coulter has readily adimtted to all those things in my post (save reatard) I'm merley parroting her.

But I guess you can just go back to telling us how to butcher cows or about our food when it's not only blatanly obvious you know nothing about the subject but simply post what you think is right as undispuitable facts.

Vuk

10-26-2009, 21:07

Considering Coulter has readily adimtted to all those things in my post (save reatard) I'm merley parroting her.

But I guess you can just go back to telling us how to butcher cows or about our food when it's not only blatanly obvious you know nothing about the subject but simply post what you think is right as undispuitable facts.

umm...wow. First of all, Coulter did not admit that.
Second of all, I never posted a drrned thing about butchering cows. The only reference I made to butchering is that I had done it before (and it was sheep, not cows). Also, you are only supposed to post in English in this part of the forum, so I would suggest using spell check. I am not making a catty dig there, I merely mean to petition you to stop making it so hard for me to understand your umm...posts...

(5 ridiculous mistakes in the small post you just made. I do not insist that you use perfect English, nor think less of you if you don't, but do make an effort.)

EDIT: I only bring up your ummm...spelling to show to you that you do make mistakes like other people Strike (and ones that could be easily avoided). You insinuate that I am a "bigotted moron" because of a mistake that you believe I made (when I did not even). By that same logic big guy, you are yourself. I have yet only countered your hostile accusations, and the atmosphere keeps getting more and more hostile. How about making an effort to be civil?

seireikhaan

10-26-2009, 21:19

First of all, you missed completely what I said about humour. Second of all, your entire post is nothing but bias, opinion, and hostility..
Bias, opinion, and hostility are all that comprise Ms. Coulter's dialogues. How you can dismiss comments like "machete armed savages" and "Its always something with Muslims", and then rip into someone over a rape comment is quite hypocritical. Both are entirely uncalled for.

johnhughthom

10-26-2009, 21:21

I still don't get the actual purpose of her article, what was she trying to say? I mean if you write an article it has a point, doesn't it?

Vuk

10-26-2009, 21:21

Bias, opinion, and hostility are all that comprise Ms. Coulter's dialogues. How you can dismiss comments like "machete armed savages" and "Its always something with Muslims", and then rip into someone over a rape comment is quite hypocritical. Both are entirely uncalled for.

A: Her's was humour, his was pure hostility.
B: He was posting that to show me how much better he could do than her.
C: A comment about "punishing" someone's groin is a heck of a lot worse than anything Coulter said in that article.

HoreTore

10-26-2009, 21:25

drone

10-26-2009, 21:27

I still don't get the actual purpose of her article, what was she trying to say? I mean if you write an article it has a point, doesn't it?

The point is to rile up everyone to the left of, say, Rush Limbaugh. And to get site hits. This is what trolls do.

Seamus Fermanagh

10-26-2009, 21:33

I still don't get the actual purpose of her article, what was she trying to say? I mean if you write an article it has a point, doesn't it?

Once upon a time that was true. Latterly, vitriol and peurile one-upsmanship seems to suffice.

As you are a European and they still have at least some newspapers/journalists over there, I will excuse your limited knowledge of the nadir to which American political commentary has sunk.:wink2: After all, you're still exposed to people who can make and argument....at least some of the time.

Vuk

10-26-2009, 21:34

When someone plays the part of the grammar Nazi, that person better make damn sure that his post is free of spelling errors.

And you failed, Vuk. Even as a non-native english speaker, I counted 4 spelling errors in your post.

Please, think of the childrenz! Put some effort into your posts.:clown:

A: I am not being a grammar Nazi, I brought it up because he was saying that I made a mistake (which I did not) and didn't qualify it as opinion (which I actually did, because I said "When I butcher animals), and that makes me a bigoted moron. I was simply pointing out to him the flaws in his logic. I am certainly not a 'grammar Nazi'. The French guy above made tons of mistakes, and I did not point even one out.
B: As I said, there is nothing wrong with making mistakes, I am not saying that that makes someone stupid, but people should make an effort so that they can be understood (if only for their own good).
C: It is hard for you to compare my grammar and spelling to SFTS's. I make a mistake now and again, once and a while, just like everyone else. Strike does not even make an effort, and it hurts ones eyes to read his posts. With a non-Native English speaker I am more understanding, but it seems a little arrogant that someone that educated would not even make the smallest effort.

Strike For The South

10-26-2009, 21:39

umm...wow. First of all, Coulter did not admit that.
Second of all, I never posted a drrned thing about butchering cows. The only reference I made to butchering is that I had done it before (and it was sheep, not cows). Also, you are only supposed to post in English in this part of the forum, so I would suggest using spell check. I am not making a catty dig there, I merely mean to petition you to stop making it so hard for me to understand your umm...posts...

(5 ridiculous mistakes in the small post you just made. I do not insist that you use perfect English, nor think less of you if you don't, but do make an effort.)

EDIT: I only bring up your ummm...spelling to show to you that you do make mistakes like other people Strike (and ones that could be easily avoided). You insinuate that I am a "bigotted moron" because of a mistake that you believe I made (when I did not even). By that same logic big guy, you are yourself. I have yet only countered your hostile accusations, and the atmosphere keeps getting more and more hostile. How about making an effort to be civil?

O RLY?

Here's a little inside scoop about white people: We're not thinking about you. Especially WASPs. We think everybody is inferior, and we are perfectly charming about it.

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/printer_friendly.cgi?article=243 The horses mouth

Anyone can go back and read the thread. You also not knowing what olive oil is was pretty funny to.

I don't proofread my posts never have and never will.

I never called you a moron either

CountArach

10-26-2009, 21:52

What do you all think about this here article? Pretty accurate?

And you sir are soooo enlightened and educated and critical that you refuse to even read an article when you know someone does not agree with you. Heck, I even read the garbage that Michael Moore (on) writes.

This thread has only one actually criticism of what she wrote...which surprises me, because they usually are just all blind rejections without a bit of rebuttal.

lol, that is the problem Sarmatian, you SHOULDN'T take it seriously! Or...at least not THAT seriously. lol She uses humour a LOT in her articles. You just gotta learn when she is joking and when she is not. lol

lmao, that is the point. She uses exagerrated humour to get her points across. Don't use prejudices as a dirty word either, because anyone who says that they don't have any is either dishonest, or doesn't understand what the word means.
Observe: The retreat from an argument

Vuk

10-26-2009, 22:13

O RLY?

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/printer_friendly.cgi?article=243 The horses mouth

Anyone can go back and read the thread. You also not knowing what olive oil is was pretty funny to.

I don't proofread my posts never have and never will.

I never called you a moron either

So she thinks that white people are racist? So what? A lot are. A lot of white people think other races are inferior, as do a lot of blacks, hispanics, asians, etc. So suddenly you have a problem with her pointing out that white people can be racist?
And lol, I don't know what olive oil is? :P Give me a break, I grew up eating mostly (slightly Americanized) Italian food!

Strike For The South

10-26-2009, 22:24

So she thinks that white people are racist? So what? A lot are. A lot of white people think other races are inferior, as do a lot of blacks, hispanics, asians, etc. So suddenly you have a problem with her pointing out that white people can be racist?!

No there not. And it just shows that she has no interaction with normal people if she thinks that way. The people who generally think most people are racist are ones whom have never really been in contact with other races.

And lol, I don't know what olive oil is? :P Give me a break, I grew up eating mostly (slightly Americanized) Italian food

Well this speaks for itself.

Vuk

10-26-2009, 22:33

No there not. And it just shows that she has no interaction with normal people if she thinks that way. The people who generally think most people are racist are ones whom have never really been in contact with other races.

Well this speaks for itself.

A: You have before said something very similar Strike, so you should check twice before calling the kettle...um...white.
B: Racist ideas run a lot deeper than you think. Mostly they are just harmless beliefs that other races are not bad, but just not as good. It doesn't mean that most people are hateful, simply that many people hold racist ideas to whatever extent. I don't know about you, but in my extremely leftist environment I have noticed the condescending attitudes whites take to other races a lot. Mostly meaning well, but their beliefs often come across as arrogant. Of course though it could not simply be that she has had different experiences and known different people than you, but that because she disagrees with you that she is racist and has not had interaction with normal people. (normal people...you know, the ones Strike knows. All the others must be weirdos)
C: I never claimed to be an expert on Italian Cuisine, but I do know what olive oil is. I would like to know why you chose to make such a ridiculous, unsupported, flatly wrong, but totally dogmatic statement. Is it bigotry?

Subotan

10-26-2009, 22:41

I just realised upon reading this article, that I am prejudiced towards bigots.

Strike For The South

10-26-2009, 22:46

A: You have before said something very similar Strike, so you should check twice before calling the kettle...um...white.
B: Racist ideas run a lot deeper than you think. Mostly they are just harmless beliefs that other races are not bad, but just not as good. It doesn't mean that most people are hateful, simply that many people hold racist ideas to whatever extent. I don't know about you, but in my extremely leftist environment I have noticed the condescending attitudes whites take to other races a lot. Mostly meaning well, but their beliefs often come across as arrogant. Of course though it could not simply be that she has had different experiences and known different people than you, but that because she disagrees with you that she is racist and has not had interaction with normal people. (normal people...you know, the ones Strike knows. All the others must be weirdos)
C: I never claimed to be an expert on Italian Cuisine, but I do know what olive oil is. I would like to know why you chose to make such a ridiculous, unsupported, flatly wrong, but totally dogmatic statement. Is it bigotry?

A: ? I know in my early days here I took a pretty hardline on Illegals and I often let some of my emotions get the best of me (at 15-16 years old) but even then you couldn't call those posts "racist"

B: Racism is dragging a man behind a truck or hanging him from a tree. I really don't know what you're going on about with another one of your leftist diatrabes but real racism is fast fading in this country and is way overhyped in the media.

C: Tribesman already gave you the run along in the Hardees V Macdonald thread. Hint: It's the oily thing you dip your bread in.

Vuk

10-26-2009, 22:57

A: ? I know in my early days here I took a pretty hardline on Illegals and I often let some of my emotions get the best of me (at 15-16 years old) but even then you couldn't call those posts "racist"

B: Racism is dragging a man behind a truck or hanging him from a tree. I really don't know what you're going on about with another one of your leftist diatrabes but real racism is fast fading in this country and is way overhyped in the media.

C: Tribesman already gave you the run along in the Hardees V Macdonald thread. Hint: It's the oily thing you dip your bread in.

A-B: As you well know, there are many, many definitions of racism. I had assumed that since we were talking about Ann's use of the word we were going by the definition that she uses in her articles. Otherwise I do not even see why we bother having this conversation if we are going to use our own definitions to argue moot points. Have you ever measure racism scientifically? No? Neither have I! (guess that we do have something in common. You know what that means? We each have only our own, quite different, experiences to go on. So why do you insult me because my experiences have been different than yours? Not your opinion, so it must be wrong? What is the point of arguing then. Why don't we just build our own little fortresses and defend our sacred beliefs with our lives?! Thanks anyway, but I prefer to have rational debate and agree to disagree.

C: Here is a good example of you doing something that you would call me a bigoted moron for. Maybe you should form your own opinions of my posts instead of taking them from Tribesman. Sure, it was mostly olive oil (something I obviously knew), but calling it 'olive oil' is about as smart as calling a loaf of bread flour!! (or a bowl of dip 'sour cream') Of course someone knows there is flour in bread, but that doesn't mean that they know the name of the bread or what else is in it. You are ignoring something called "all the other ingredients"!! All the spices and crap floating in it and mixed in with it. Olive oil is only one part of it. Pardon me as I go ride my alternator to town. Got any more examples of my stupidity? I would love to hear them too.