The Red Phoenix [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think at least 3 of the alive are innocent + myself - Beskar, AVSM and possibly Yaropolk.

This leaves on the suspicious list:
Subotan
ATPG
Joooray

I'm not too certain on Subotan's guilt, seeing how he's very much inactive - afterall Jolt threatened me with WoG even though I have a role too...

So if we were to ignore Subotan for now, I would say its either ATPG or Joooray. Joooray claimed absence over the weekend when I was attacked first, so it may clear him unless he lied about that.

So currently my main suspect is ATPG (in particular because he seemed to have some background cooperation with Sprig), though I would like Jolt's commentary regarding Subotan's continued survival first.

I obtained this list via checking the voting rounds regarding Sprig.

P.S.: I think the previous day's vote was rather light (3 votes total) so that doesn't contribute much. Still, I imagine Sprig's partner in crime would not hesitate voting for him considering that they know analysis would be performed, which is why it doesn't clear anyone.

Subotan is in no way inactive. He's all over the 30 years war game.

I think I understand why I am your main suspect, FactionHeir, but think of the logistics... someone recently attacked me and you defended me.

Did I attack myself?

[Yaropolk]

A talented advisor and general, you had been recommended to Cao Cao by Liu Ye. You showed your worth when you brought over Xu Huang, which has been tremendously helpful in Cao Cao's drive to success. Your worthiness doesn't exhaust there, as you have also done service spying in the campaign against Cao Cao and you have frequently been called to advise the Prime Minister on military matters. These rumors have been quite strange, and you are unsure what to make of them. Phreaps listening closely to what the other advisors say might give you an idea if someone did indeed write the protesting papers or not



The bolded sentence doesn't fit in there unless the previous sentence describes the rumors.... what did you cut immediately before it?

[Beskar]

The bolded sentence doesn't fit in there unless the previous sentence describes the rumors.... what did you cut immediately before it?

Nothing. I didn't need to cut anything out. That is the role and exact write-up Jolt sent me. I could obviously screenshot it, but the rules forbid that. :shurg:

If you want to tell the host he did a bad role PM, go ahead. I haven't touched it.

It could be a reference to the openng post which talked about rumours.


The memos were written with very aggressive, borderline mutinous, and erudite language, which made it seem like it was written by one of the more intelligent men. This gave way to rumors as to who was writing the circulating papers. Of course, the soldierly, began pointing fingers at the original staff, that they were dissatisfied with the importance that the Prime-Minister was giving a newcomer, and that they were becoming mutinous.

[Sprig]

Subotan is in no way inactive. He's all over the 30 years war game.

I think I understand why I am your main suspect, FactionHeir, but think of the logistics... someone recently attacked me and you defended me.

Did I attack myself?

Thats a pretty poor defense there ATPG. We are all aware of who attacked you.

[Yaropolk]

Maybe - my PM is very similar to yours and contains that line, but it explicitly says that I'm rumored to be upset with Cao Cao for accepting the newcomer. I believe your PM is legitemate.

I didn't realize we had such a detailed outline provided to us by Jolt, all that stuff I wrote was from unrelated sources. So Jolt explicitly mentions Xu Shu and Pang Tong in his first writeup. That leads me to believe Sima Yi (Sprig) + the other guy are a second mafia unrelated to PT & XS. So.....scratch what I said about Jooray and ATPG being innocent for killing Khaan.

I'll still happily vote off a lurker (Subotan), but now my list of innocents is down to FH and Beskar.

FH - what leads you to believe AVSM is innocent?

[A Very Super Market]

Why not? I have voted correctly like a good little townie based on both mafioso.

If it shall please you, I am the great Cao Ren.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thats a pretty poor defense there ATPG. We are all aware of who attacked you.

Sorry, I always thought being a murder target made me innocent. Foolish me. There have only ever been one murder at night, which seems to indicate one mafia family. No serial killers (because they aren't killing) and not two families (because they aren't killing). So I just find it interesting that me being targeted by a family allows for the possibility of me being guilty. How is that possible? Is factionheir, who defended me, and who was also attacked, my scum buddy, and did we set this all up so that I attack him and he attacks me to make us both look innocent? Because that's the only option I see. Bottom line is that I'm innocent and it should be flipping obvious that I am. Also Factionheir.

The best defense is that I am innocent. I may have been attacked since I went after Subotan earlier in the game, and he's not cleared and he's still alive and he's been active in other games, not so active here.

My suspect is Subotan.

vote: Subotan

OH PS- I claimed detective so I could get attacked at night, so I would die. If I were a serial killer (with apparently no kills) and there were multiple families, that would be boneheaded dumb. It wouldn't fool anyone for long and it would guarantee my own death, either by murder or by lynch. I dunno I think anyone who accuses me isn't paying close attention or thinking.

[Jolt]

I should inform you guys that I am under a lot of stress due to a bucketload of essays I have to do in several days. On account of that, I forgot to check who missed two votes in a row.

As such, I can inform you guys that Subotan's non-WoG is not on account of him having a role or not (I have threatened in the beginning people with important roles), but because I forgot. Regardless of that, if he doesn't vote this Day, I will WoG him. Also, make no mistake, I will lynch Townies, Pro-Town and Mafia alike if they fail to vote twice in a row.

[Yaropolk]

I should inform you guys that I am under a lot of stress due to a bucketload of essays I have to do in several days. On account of that, I forgot to check who missed two votes in a row.

As such, I can inform you guys that Subotan's non-WoG is not on account of him having a role or not (I have threatened in the beginning people with important roles), but because I forgot. Regardless of that, if he doesn't vote this Day, I will WoG him. Also, make no mistake, I will lynch Townies, Pro-Town and Mafia alike if they fail to vote twice in a row.

In that case, Unvote: Subotan, Vote: ATPG

There have clearly been 2 discreet group of night killers. One was Pang Tong + Xu Shu
The other was Sima Yi + his partner.
This is clearly seen, and yet ATPG denies the simple logic.

[atheotes]

i wish i was still alive :sad:

[Beskar]

Going to vote: Sabotan till I read the arguments tomorrow as I am going to bed now and if i don't vote (if deadline is tomorrow), I will get WoG'd.

[Askthepizzaguy]

In that case, Unvote: Subotan, Vote: ATPG

There have clearly been 2 discreet group of night killers. One was Pang Tong + Xu Shu
The other was Sima Yi + his partner.
This is clearly seen, and yet ATPG denies the simple logic.

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One mafia family is dead. Yet I was attacked.


WHERE'S YOUR SIMPLE LOGIC NOW?????

[Yaropolk]

Tally:

Subotan 3 (ATPG, Jooray, Beskar)
ATPG 1 (Yaro)

[Sprig]

Maybe - my PM is very similar to yours and contains that line, but it explicitly says that I'm rumored to be upset with Cao Cao for accepting the newcomer. I believe your PM is legitemate.

I didn't realize we had such a detailed outline provided to us by Jolt, all that stuff I wrote was from unrelated sources. So Jolt explicitly mentions Xu Shu and Pang Tong in his first writeup. That leads me to believe Sima Yi (Sprig) + the other guy are a second mafia unrelated to PT & XS. So.....scratch what I said about Jooray and ATPG being innocent for killing Khaan.

I'll still happily vote off a lurker (Subotan), but now my list of innocents is down to FH and Beskar.

FH - what leads you to believe AVSM is innocent?

err you are all still making a big mistake... and quite obviously deliberately to mislead others.

I am\was not mafia. I am not saying Faction heir is lying, I am just saying that he was decieved.

[Askthepizzaguy]

BAH bogus.

I was attacked by Pang Tong. So that means I can't use that reasoning.

I give up. I have NOT been paying close attention to this game. Go ahead and lynch me, I have no defense whatsoever.

I'm just freakin' innocent, and I'm also too busy for this :daisy:

[Yaropolk]

err you are all still making a big mistake... and quite obviously deliberately to mislead others.

I am\was not mafia. I am not saying Faction heir is lying, I am just saying that he was decieved.

Sprig - since you were lynched, we've only seen 1 person go after FH - how do you explain that?

[atheotes]

err you are all still making a big mistake... and quite obviously deliberately to mislead others.

I am\was not mafia. I am not saying Faction heir is lying, I am just saying that he was decieved.

arent you dead? i am not sure how much you are allowed to talk. :juggle2:

[Sprig]

Sprig - since you were lynched, we've only seen 1 person go after FH - how do you explain that?

You're well aware why - you sneaky man you. Why attack with two people when you can attack with one. It also gives the nice illusion of there only being one left.

Sorry to dispel any cover you were hoping to make. :smash:

[Beskar]

But why would two people attack one person all game, and not seperate people, also, how did Factionheir be able to defend from two seperate attackers, usually, protection can only save you from one of them.

However, in Jolt's write-up, there is this.


Executed (5):
Centurion1 - Mao Jie
Yaseikhaan - Xu Shu
Paulus Tertius - Xun Yu
Death is Yonder - Pang Tong
Sprig - Sima Yi

Assassinated (2):
Diana Abnoba - Xiahou Dun
atheotes - Jia Xu


Both YaseiKhaan and DIY were the two Mafia in the beginning. Also, Jolt labelled the both of those with red font. While Sprig argument by FactionHeir seemed convincing, Jolt never red fonted Sprig's name. Does that mean Sprig was actually a Mafia? Also, since the two Mafia which were called the Mafia dead, who could it be?

Luckily, there is a possible explanation. On page 8 by Paulus Tertius.

I never had the intent of going mafia - even if I would have fulfilled the requirements.

This suggests the possibility of Emergent Mafia based on a set of conditions. however, if Sprig was an emergent mafia, wouldn't his name be redded by Jolt? (so in short, a question to the Host, are all the Mafia got red-fonted when they died?)

Another issue of this, I will say to Yaropolk. You pulled out incidences of people which looked scummy at the beginning (including myself) and you said about Khaan. Emergent Mafia (at a guess) may or maynot even be related to those Mafia or be akin to Serial Killers/Emergent Serial Killers. So looking at who voted who at the beginning would be redunant, as if it is emergent mafia, they wouldn't have tried to save Khaan or DIY, as they wouldn't even be on the same side of them.

This also draws into a more serious and scary point. If it is emergent Mafia, then everyone who we pretty much think is innocent, could not be. Though, I think I can give FactionHeir benefit of the doubt, as they keep trying to attack him, but still, your argument for example AVSM saying you was a good townie and voted them off, actually means nothing, as it is possible you were never on the same side anyway.

[FactionHeir]

ATPG:
My reasoning that you aren't cleared is that you were attacked by mafia gang 1. Not attacked since emergence of gang 2, and you seemed to be working closely with Sprig.

I imagine emergent mafia know of each other in any case as otherwise Sprig and his partner wouldn't have been able to make a joint attack (writeup clearly indicates joint), unless of course both attackers are very active players.

Regarding reddening of names, I imagine its Jolt's oversight - re: WoG.

vote: ATPG

since Subotan will be WoGed anyway...

I guess Joooray is next if that doesn't stop the attacks.

[A Very Super Market]

I will gladly produce my role PM if you wish. Why would a member of Cao Cao's own family betray him? My role says nothing of turning against Cao Cao, because my character never did so in history. Xun Yu did, and thus he is
susceptible.

Vote: Subotan

If this natches it, then Yaropolk is dead tomorrow.

[Jolt]

This suggests the possibility of Emergent Mafia based on a set of conditions. however, if Sprig was an emergent mafia, wouldn't his name be redded by Jolt? (so in short, a question to the Host, are all the Mafia got red-fonted when they died?)

I redded both Mafiosi at the request of Diana, who was having trouble following who was innocent or not. As I said, I only redded both mafiosi who are publicly known to be that way through the intro. Other mafiosi, whether alive or dead, emergent or not will not be redded. It is up to the players to find out who is/are mafiosi besides the public two.

[A Very Super Market]

Subotan has been active. I doubt he will actually be WOG'd.

Although if you're reading this, I consider it unsporting to simply wait until one minute until round's end to vote.

[Yaropolk]

If this natches it, then Yaropolk is dead tomorrow.

What is natches?

[A Very Super Market]

I've heard it used before in place of "win". So I suppose a modified version would be:

If this lynch nabs a mafioso, then Yaropolk is dead tomorrow.

[Yaropolk]

IMO subotan will be wogged tomorrow anyway so we're wasting a lynch. FH is pretty much the only CI here, so why not go with his accusation and vote ATPG, who's been using false logic about why he can't be mafia, and then went for 'Oh well lynch me' defense?

[Askthepizzaguy]

IMO subotan will be wogged tomorrow anyway so we're wasting a lynch. FH is pretty much the only CI here, so why not go with his accusation and vote ATPG, who's been using false logic about why he can't be mafia, and then went for 'Oh well lynch me' defense?

Go for it.

LYNCH ME LYNCH ME LYNCH ME LYNCH ME LYNCH ME.

You'll won't regret it, I promise. Nothing could possibly go wrong.

[Death is yonder]

i wish i was still alive :sad:

So do I :sad:


LYNCH ME LYNCH ME LYNCH ME LYNCH ME LYNCH ME.

You'll won't regret it, I promise. Nothing could possibly go wrong.

:sweatdrop:

~:grouphug:

[A Very Super Market]

Hodge-podge. I won't be up for the rest of the voting block, while Subotan will be nice and cheery in Britain.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think it speaks to my innocence that I couldn't even recall whether there's one mafia or two in this game. My bad, horrible defense wouldn't exist if I knew what the heck was going on. I thought this was a simple, basic game. I thought we were done when we lynched not just 2 known mafia, but Sprig, who was involved in night attacks even though he was also a detective or something.

I have no idea how many bad guys are in this game, I have no idea why they'd have detective abilities, and I am completely lost on this story, I don't know who the heck these people are... I know better than to sign up as a reserve player in games where I'm going to be distracted by other games.

I thought it was a good point that the mafia seem to want me dead. I thought it was a good point that I claimed detective to make myself a target, and if it weren't for factionheir defending me, I would be dead right now.

That makes no sense if I were mafia. Not even in the risky, gambit sense. It's boneheaded stupid as I said earlier. I apologize if I wasn't aware there were 2 separate mafia families... I'm sorry. Doesn't make me guilty in the slightest. I think there's ample reasons not to lynch me, and I'm not articulating them very well, but the reasons are very convincing, or they would be if I were able to point them out without sounding like an ass.

I don't have a good lead, I don't have a good suspect, and I'd rather a lurker (who is active elsewhere) die if he's not even going to try to lynch the mafia. Maybe he will get wogged! Maybe he's not the best lynch.

But I guarantee you this much; I am a far worse lynch.

[atheotes]

So do I :sad:


you killed me :whip:

even though i am dead i am enjoying this game. :bow:

[Yaropolk]

As such, I can inform you guys that Subotan's non-WoG is not on account of him having a role or not (I have threatened in the beginning people with important roles), but because I forgot. Regardless of that, if he doesn't vote this Day, I will WoG him. Also, make no mistake, I will lynch Townies, Pro-Town and Mafia alike if they fail to vote twice in a row.

The host just told us that Subotan has not been sending in orders at night and will be WoG'd tonight! You're throwing your votes away.

[Sprig]

even though I am dead I am enjoying this game. :bow:

Me Too :yes:

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote: Subotan

Because there is a chance he could be WOG'ed apparently.

If you want a different suspect gone, pick one. I don't have time to scour the thread for suspects at the moment. I also note that this action will probably result in my death, and so you'd better come up with someone better than Subotan, otherwise... adios amigos.

Good night. :sleep:

[Sprig]

your up way too late there atpg!!! I do hope they lynch you :P

[Subotan]

Sorry guys, but I've been really busy at the moment, with University applications and the sort. And because I got behind on this, I felt too guilty and shameful to post in this thread; making it worse


Trust me, I wouldn't have picked :daisy:-man as a character.

I just checked the rules, and it only says I can't reveal in private, but I can reveal publicly. Since I will be honest, I haven't paid much attention to the game due to the confusing round end times and the fact I didn't have night actions, I was mainly inactive. I will just post my role pm, most likely get me night killed, but it would be better than an active townie/power-role dying.
This is essentially the same situation I was in. I'm just a simple townie, so I didn't have much to do. If you'd want, I can reveal my role pm.

Subotan is in no way inactive. He's all over the 30 years war game.

You would know that. :beam::beam:

Also, Vote:ATPG

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just in time to avoid the WOG, eh? :no:

I'm a terrible lynch, bottom line.

And no, I'm not going to save myself. Otherwise you'll just vote me next round. I've done good work this game, and if you ABSOLUTELY have to kill me, so be it.

Fools! :laugh4:

[Subotan]

Just in time to avoid the WOG, eh? :no:


I take same approach to Mafia games that I do to real life. Get things done in the last possible second. Heck, I had parent's evening tonight, and I was finishing a Maths assignment that had been in for that day seconds before my Maths teacher called me in :laugh4:

[FactionHeir]

Actually Subotan voted after the deadline.

[Sprig]

Actually Subotan voted after the deadline.

:laugh4:

[Yaropolk]

I will gladly produce my role PM if you wish.

Please do


If you'd want, I can reveal my role pm.

Please do as well

[Jolt]

Day 6 is over. Stand-by for execution.

No reveals now. Subotan is getting WoG'd.

[Beskar]

Poor Subotan, he acually got around to voting.

[Jolt]

The Red Phoenix - Day 6

As the council reconvened, this time no valuable information was drawn by Faction Heir as he was attacked for the second time. Due to the lack of tacit evidence, the council quickly enbroiled itself in the usual accusation flinging, this time with the various advisors trying to make sense. Some argued that the most silent of advisors were probably the culprits as they did not wish to contribute anything, lest they might have a slip of a lip and incriminate themselves. After Cao Cao said no such thing as to be an incriminatory acusation, the council then turned mostly towards Askthepizzaguy, who according to the council, was unable to explain several things regarding his past nights. Liu Ye argued that upon closer inspection, the council could see that he was innocent as he himself had been attacked, but his arguments were shrugged off. As the council draw to a close, Cao Cao called out Liu Ye "Liu Ye, how do you dare to try and work against all of us, after all I did for you? Truly you have no sense of loyalty, and as such, it is only better that you be put to death before you harm us further." Without further ado, Cao Cao motioned for the lictors to eject the advisor and put him to death. Liu Ye said little, apparently resigned to his fate "This is all irrelevant, as now I shall have to take care of hordes of zombies and battling survivors in a foreign land East of here, beyond the Grand Sea." The council was dumbfounded about the non-sense Liu Ye just uttered as he was dragged out, and they knew thus that their half-crazed fellow was dead when they heard steel connect with flesh.


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Liu Ye, Inspector of the Han Army, has been executed.

Shortly afterwards, Cao Cao dismissed the council.

One amongst those still alive was literary prodigy Subotan. Unfortunately, and quite contrary to his superhuman abilities, Yang Xiu had remained quiet for a long time in the council, as he was coming out for the third time in a row without speaking, he met upfront a man clad with a yellow robe, and addorned with a yellow turban, he spoke to Yang Xiu as if the heavens were crashing down on the Earth and as if a mighty wave swept through everything with titanic force. "You have been deemed unworthy of such a high responsibility of State, Yang Xiu." Yang Xiu was thus terror-stricken, and could not move out of fear. The figure's eyes turned completely white and he began chanting something. The sky, which was clear that day, turned deep grey in a few seconds, as clouds drawed near. Cao Ren, noticing the scene, quickly ordered soldiers to cut down the intruder, which Cao Ren recognized as a yellow turban. But the soldiers came to late. Within a few seconds after the clouds had gathered, the figure let out a huge shriek, which coincided with the fall of lightning bolt which desintegrated Yang Xiu into a thousand tiny bits. The soldiers fell to the ground dropping their weapons, such as the quake created by the crash of the bolt into the ground. It was followed by a blinding white light for some seven seconds. When everything was visible once again, the mysterious figure had disapeared, and all there was left of his presence was a 2 meters deep crate and Yang Xiu's pieces splattered all over the emcompassing area.


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Yang Xiu, Clerk of Transportation Supplies, has suffered the Wrath of Zhang Jue.

Soon however, the advisors returned to their duties and when the sun died down, returned back to their tents.


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Alive (5):
A Very Super Market
Beskar
Yaropolk
Joooray
FactionHeir

Executed (6):
Centurion1 - Mao Jie
Yaseikhaan - Xu Shu
Paulus Tertius - Xun Yu
Death is Yonder - Pang Tong
Sprig - Sima Yi
Askthepizzaguy - Liu Ye

Assassinated (2):
Diana Abnoba - Xiahou Dun
atheotes - Jia Xu

WoZJ'd (1):
Subotan - Yang Xiu

Night 7 orders are due 10 PM GMT / 5 PM EST, 4th of December.

[A Very Super Market]

Dirty Lies. However.... just... bah.

[FactionHeir]

Hmm Yaro mentioned Cao Ren being a possible mafia based on RotK and AVSM claimed Cao Ren...

[A Very Super Market]

Huh? Cao Ren, Cao Cao's loyal cousin? I find little rationale in that accusation.

[FactionHeir]

I'm also somewhat disturbed that ATPG's title is Inspector, it could mean detective, but then again he hasn't revealed any results in public nor private.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I already addressed that point, while I was alive.

Just a quick "told you so" before I die.

TOLD YA SO.

*bleck*

[Yaropolk]

Historically Sima Yi did not have accomplices. I mentioned Cao Ren because he's a known Wei general from that battle and i figured sima's associate is wei, even if not historically accurate. Historically Cao Ren is loyal. AVSM - can youy post your role?

[Subotan]

I'm sorry for not posting, especially since I asked so hard to be included in this game. I screwed up bad, and I hope I didn't ruin Jolt's game too much. I apologise sincerely.

[Jolt]

Night 7 is over. Stand-by for execution.

[Jolt]

The Red Phoenix - Night 7

Night came and as soon and tonight it was New Moon, thus most propitious for a kill. A person as soon as he had returned to the tent, donned his armor and dressed a black robe on top of it, sneaking out of the tent afterwards. The inner courtyards were becoming reduced, cortesy of the many executions and deaths of the past days, as a result, the distance travelled by the man was rather little until he arrived at Yaropolk's tent. The attacker had prepared in the last day some small darts with a potent tranquilizer made of some herbs only found in the region, that had medical appliances and thus could be found aplenty in Cao Cao's camp. He quickly darted both Yaropolk's guards, and rushed inside. After what happened in the two previous nights, the attacker was now quite wary of failing to succeed in his assassinations. The hastiness of the attacker alerted Chen Qun, who was already asleep. As he turned around, from his bed to see what was all the fuss, he was horrified to see the dagger of the intruder pierce through his throat. Gasping for air, Chen Qun died seconds later.


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Chen Qun, Chancellor's Assistent, has been assassinated.

The attacker wasted no time. Fear for Xu Chu had overtaken his every move, and he quickly took the dagger and cleaned the blood, before hastily exiting the tent, and quietly retreating back to his own. For the first time, there was a quiet kill where not even the attacker was spotted.

Once Chen Qun was found dead and Cao Cao warned, he stamped his foot to the ground in rage. "All the men of good quality are disapearing before my very eyes and I can do little to stop it!"
Chen Qun was then sent to the Imperial Capital Xu Chang and buried there.

The council was then summoned to proceed with the deliberations to who was assassinating other people and bring him forth to be executed.

"You are my most trusted men." Exhorted Cao Cao "Without all of you, my task to invade Sun Quan and Liu Bei will surely fail. But if you do not find whoever is killing your colleague, we will all suffer the ultimate price. Set your minds to the crucial task. Whoever of you who finds the assassin will have done an immense favour towards restoring order in the Empire. So gentlemen, begin." By then Cao Cao, down to his last 4 most important people in aiding him in helping conquer China, knew not on who to trust anymore.


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The advisors looked with somber mood, depressed to see how little people remained on the council. The scene resembled much more some sort of secret conspiracy ring than a War Council of an Imperial Army. Even Cao Cao was unsecure by now. But he knew he could not afford to retreat now that he seemed so strong. Doing so would ensure that he would be the laughter of the entire China.

Alive (4):
A Very Super Market
Beskar
Joooray
FactionHeir

Executed (6):
Centurion1 - Mao Jie
Yaseikhaan - Xu Shu
Paulus Tertius - Xun Yu
Death is yonder - Pang Tong
Sprig - Sima Yi
AskthePizzaguy - Liu Ye

Assassinated (3):
Diana Abnoba - Xiahou Dun
atheotes - Jia Xu
Yaropolk - Chen Qun

WoZJ'd (1):
Subotan - Yang Xiu


Day 7 votes are due in 8 PM GMT / 3 PM EST, 6th of December.

[Jolt]

I'm sorry for not posting, especially since I asked so hard to be included in this game. I screwed up bad, and I hope I didn't ruin Jolt's game too much. I apologise sincerely.

No worries, it isn' a huge deal.

[Askthepizzaguy]

DESTROY THE BESKAR

[FactionHeir]

Hmmm this round will probably be crucial given that the next night phase is a 50/50 of whether we or the mafia win.

Since Beskar's character seems to be rather minor though, I'm not sure if it could be him...

I'd like some thoughts on Joooray though. He claimed to have been absent during the weekend when I was first attacked. Any idea on whether he can be trusted on this?

If he can be, I imagine this leaves only one person: AVSM.

[A Very Super Market]

I assure you, I am a townie.

Greetings, A Very Super Market!

Congratulations! You are General Who Subdues the South Cao Ren


Cao Ren, General who Subdues the South

You are a cousin of the Prime Minister himself, and have followed him since he settled in Chen Liu. You have gained great reknown as your cousin's expansion continued and you have been a safe support for Cao Cao ever since. You are one of the very few Military Generals that Cao Cao allows to be inside his advisory staff, as your advice has served the Prime Minister well on multiple occasions. These rumors have been quite strange. You are not sure of who has spread them around the camp, but as a member of Cao Cao's close staff, and being related to him, you fear lest people should start thinking you wish to supplant him due to your close kinship, and have thus avoided to take a stance in the rumors. But better keep an open eye.

Abilities: The Power of War - You are already a veteran in war, battling for your Lord Cao Cao ever since he first raised troops to depose the tyrant Dong Zhuo and save the dynasty. Since then you have taken parts in dozens of battles and killed many enemies. You are a good enough warrior, and you can stay alert when needed. That may prove useful in the next days (You have a one-time defence/doctor power. That may be used on yourself as well.)

Victory Conditions: Kill every mafioso to win.


Sima Yi did eventually "betray" Cao Cao. Although he was long dead by then. We don't even know if Sprig was mafia, but it seems to have helped.

Everyone, reveal. Now.

[FactionHeir]

Any thoughts on either Beskar or Joooray?

[A Very Super Market]

Jooray has not revealed, has he? Beskar has at least given us his character's name.

[atheotes]

it may not be a bad idea to look at the role PMs more carefully :bow:

[Joooray]

I'm not the one we are looking for. To prove it I enclose my role pm.
Congratulations! You are Co-Chief Military Advisor Xun You


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Xun You, Co-Chief Military Advisor of the Han Army

You are the nephew of Xun Yu, and like your uncle you too served Yuan Shao. You turned away from him and every since joining Cao Cao you have given him great advice. As such, Cao Cao did reward you with the rank of Co-Chief Military Advisor of the whole force under him. These rumors have been quite strange. You do not know what to make of them, or who wrote them. You suspect that it is really a ruse by Zhou Yu that is trying to trick the Prime-Minister into killing you all. Still, best keep an open eye about everyone.

((You're a regular townie))

Victory Conditions: Kill every mafioso.

Have fun! :P

Apart from that I'm also quite lost at who might be that last persistent traitor among us.

Now that I think of it. AVSM's role pm looks quite different compared to mine. It at least strikes me as somewhat odd.

[Sprig]

oh dear....

[A Very Super Market]

Beskar.....

[Beskar]

I fully revealed a couple of pages ago.

Didn't Sprig have a one-time investigation role and it turned out he was a Mafia? (two people went down to one)

Vote: AVSM

[A Very Super Market]

Greetings, Beskar!

Congratulations! You are General Who Is Mighty Man Chong


Man Chong, General Who Is Mighty

A talented advisor and general, you had been recommended to Cao Cao by Liu Ye. You showed your worth when you brought over Xu Huang, which has been tremendously helpful in Cao Cao's drive to success. Your worthiness doesn't exhaust there, as you have also done service spying in the campaign against Cao Cao and you have frequently been called to advise the Prime Minister on military matters. These rumors have been quite strange, and you are unsure what to make of them. Phreaps listening closely to what the other advisors say might give you an idea if someone did indeed write the protesting papers or not.

((You are a regular townie))

Victory Conditions: Kill every mafioso to win.

Have fun! :P


Random typo annoys me. Title of "General who is Mighty" doesn't sound quite right.

Some excuse for voting.

If we do not lynch anyone, wouldn't there be three left? Still....

[Jolt]

There must be a lynch at the end of the day. If everyone has 0 votes, I randomly kill someone(s).

[Sprig]

hint: ***cough*** Paulus ***cough***

[FactionHeir]

vote:AVSM

Your role PM is missing something :bow:

[A Very Super Market]

What, because they share the last name? That isn't a legitimate accusation.

[A Very Super Market]

The point being that having a one-time protection ability makes a special townie.....

[FactionHeir]

The way your abilities section is written (formatting) is different from mine.
And another piece missing that's in everyone else's PM it seems.

Still, I'm happy to hear your case.

Its down to you vs Beskar.

I think Joooray seems fine.

AVSM can you repost your role PM with full formatting?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think I know which piece is missing too.


KILL THE AVSM

[A Very Super Market]

Well that's my role. I won't even bother defending it, I only copy-pasted.

My defense? History. Not helped by the fact that none of us four ever did betray Cao Cao. However, Cao Ren and Xu Chu seem to be the least likely. I can't help but suspect Jooray for being a former advisor to Yuan Shao, as was Paulus. However, I have no way of knowing whether or not he was online.

[Beskar]

The point being that having a one-time protection ability makes a special townie.....

Both Paulus (I think) and Sprig (who said) both had one-time abilities and they both could turn under conditions.

Your lynch makes sense.

[FactionHeir]

As I said, it would be useful if you posted your role with full formatting, font etc.
You can use the reply function in the PM and then paste the result here.

[A Very Super Market]

Beskar is arguing rather vehemently.





Greetings, A Very Super Market!

Congratulations! You are General Who Subdues the South Cao Ren


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Cao Ren, General who Subdues the South

You are a cousin of the Prime Minister himself, and have followed him since he settled in Chen Liu. You have gained great reknown as your cousin's expansion continued and you have been a safe support for Cao Cao ever since. You are one of the very few Military Generals that Cao Cao allows to be inside his advisory staff, as your advice has served the Prime Minister well on multiple occasions. These rumors have been quite strange. You are not sure of who has spread them around the camp, but as a member of Cao Cao's close staff, and being related to him, you fear lest people should start thinking you wish to supplant him due to your close kinship, and have thus avoided to take a stance in the rumors. But better keep an open eye.

Abilities: The Power of War - You are already a veteran in war, battling for your Lord Cao Cao ever since he first raised troops to depose the tyrant Dong Zhuo and save the dynasty. Since then you have taken parts in dozens of battles and killed many enemies. You are a good enough warrior, and you can stay alert when needed. That may prove useful in the next days (You have a one-time defence/doctor power. That may be used on yourself as well.)

Victory Conditions: Kill every mafioso to win.

Have fun! :P

[Jolt]

The way your abilities section is written (formatting) is different from mine.
And another piece missing that's in everyone else's PM it seems.

Still, I'm happy to hear your case.

Its down to you vs Beskar.

I think Joooray seems fine.

AVSM can you repost your role PM with full formatting?

I should also inform that the Abilities section formatting has 4 different types amongst the PMs I sent.

[FactionHeir]

Hmmm there's oddities in each of them the more I look at it:
- AVSM: Power role but name in blue
- AVSM: Ability formatting is off

- Beskar: Townie message is off (You are rather than You're)
- Beskar: Major role without any powers

I really need to think on this, but I'm fairly certain Joooray is innocent, his character is so minor it only gets mentioned in other people's biographies.

[FactionHeir]

I had another thought....

Given that none of us 4 historically went against Wei in the end, either someone has a cover role (I think that is unlikely) or have not posted their actual role PM, fabricating part of it.

The other issue is that we lynched Paulus, who was Xun Yu and Joooray is his nephew...revenge motive possibly?
On the other hand, Sprig pointed at Joooray so he should be innocent....unless that was WIFOM.

From my reading of Alien vs Yakuza, Beskar seems more townie than AVSM though.

Any help from the dead?

[Sprig]

mums the word :P

[Yaropolk]

My gut is on Jooray - Xun Yu the uncle opposed Cao Cao's rise to power despite being his advisor, and was sent to his death for it....read my original role analysis from back earlier.

I can't post my exact role since I'm dead, but let's just say I'm a lot less suspicious of AVSM's reveal formatting than FH is.

[FactionHeir]

Yes, Joooray would make sense considering we lynched his uncle and all, but he was away for a while (posts end 24th Nov and start again 30th)

Are any other of the dead basic townies but quite major characters in the novel Yaro? I'm trying to make sense that Man Chong has no abilities.

For now though, unvote: AVSM, vote Beskar

[Beskar]

Yes, Joooray would make sense considering we lynched his uncle and all, but he was away for a while (posts end 24th Nov and start again 30th)

Are any other of the dead basic townies but quite major characters in the novel Yaro? I'm trying to make sense that Man Chong has no abilities.

For now though, unvote: AVSM, vote Beskar

What is really weird that you was certain of my innocence last round, also my character is not a major character, but apparently a minor one (according to AVSM lot earlier in the game). So I am not even sure where you got the idea where it is a Major one, as everyone has commented it is a Minor character. (I believed Yaropolk even said too minor)

Your reasoning is off.

AVSM's role makes mention of him being under susipicion of trying to surplant his Cousin, plus actually lists why he might do it. He also has that one-time ability stuff like Paulus and Sprig and both were apparently able to switch to the Mafia. Argument on Joooray seems mainly to Joooray seems to be in relation to who his character is.

Also, you have to remember, both Sprig's and Paulus characters were not enemies or tried to kill at this point and I believe one of them wasnt a historial enemy either but was suspect. Only role that has revealed (as FactionHeir hasn't revealed) which seems that could enemy Cao Cao is AVSM.

[Joooray]

Yes, Joooray would make sense considering we lynched his uncle and all, but he was away for a while (posts end 24th Nov and start again 30th)

Are any other of the dead basic townies but quite major characters in the novel Yaro? I'm trying to make sense that Man Chong has no abilities.

For now though, unvote: AVSM, vote Beskar

I didn't even know that there was somebody I was related to that we killed. :laugh4:
Didn't pay that much attention to my role pm once I knew I was a basic townie.

Also as mentioned before, I was away the weekend of the first kill by the new mafia.

Well, my money is on AVSM. So Vote: AVSM. I cannot really say why, it is more or less a gut feeling. Especially the ability "Power of War" sounds like it should involve a bit more than a one time doctor ability.

[FactionHeir]

Jolt: What will you do if there's a tie?

I mean AVSM hasn't voted yet and I imagine he will vote Beskar, tying the two of the.

[A Very Super Market]

I will vote Beskar. FH is confirmed townie, and I feel Jooray simply hasn't been active enough.

Vote: Beskar

I have nothing in-game to go on, as I must admit that both of us seem rather scummy. However...

I notice that Beskar hasn't exactly been his usual, loud self in this game. While I've been semi-lurking as usual, neither of us showed up to lynch Sprig. I remember him saying something about being too high-profile in another game...

Of course, this is as baseless an accusation as anything. At most, this is just a vote to save myself.

[Yaropolk]

The weird titles like "General who Subdues South" are historically accurate. AVSM's power does sound fishy. However Cao Ren was known as "The Loyal Marquis" for his undeterred loyalty to Cao Cao. I agree Beskar is not his usual loud self.

Xu Chu is by far the most known character
Cao Ren is second most known
Mang Chong is third most.
I've never heard of Xu You until now.

All 3 of the latter are present on the Wiki article so would make good cover roles.

My character is also a virtual unknown, but my role PM was about twice as lengthy as what Jooray posted, so my gut is still on him.

[Beskar]

I posted my role-pm directly without any edits or hessitation. What more is there to say?

I would be happy to go, however, I think that is a really bad idea due to the fact wrong lynch = Mafiaso victory. So only reason I would vouch for not being lynched is that we would lose the game.

As for Jolt, he will random it, most likely as he said earlier that no votes = random.

[FactionHeir]

Cao Cao should just execute the 3 of them and get it over with :grin:

[Jolt]

Jolt: What will you do if there's a tie?

Random.org to see how many die. If less than the entire number of tied people are to be executed, then I random.org to see who dies.

[Beskar]

Well, looks like voting is closed and I am dead, grats Mafia.

[Sprig]

hahah Joooray for teh win !!!

[Joooray]

hahah Joooray for teh win !!!
Yeah, if I was mafia, I'd be jumping in joy now. But unfortunately I am not.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's nice to see FactionHeir survive a game for a change.

:shakehands:

Nicely done sir.

[Jolt]

Day 7 is over. Stand-by for execution.

[Jolt]

The Red Phoenix - Day 7

The already small number of men in the council was further distressed by the fact that failure to kill the stubborn attacker would put Cao Cao, every other advisor, and even the entire camp at risk. As heads were paraded daily around the massive several miles long fortifications, the results did not seem to change and the killings continued. Surely because of the crucial part that one council took on the affairs on China, each and every advisor argued and acused and analyzed each other with greater intensity than ever before. In the end, Xun You, Xu Chu and Cao Ren decided that Beskar was undoubtedly the guilty one.
Cao Cao only nodded with a sigh. "Man Chong, you have stood resillient, and you and your companions have suceeded in killing China's brightest minds and now you yourself go to the afterlife. How will you bear to look on the face of your ancestors after the crimes you committed towards the people, who will now ultimately be devoid of such virtuous talents that those men possessed, which were vital in maintaining the happiness amongst humanity?" Cao Cao only sighed once, clearly unsure whether or not Man Chong was the right man to execute. Cao Cao had lost his sense of direction days ago.


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Man Chong, General Who is Mighty, has been executed.

He motioned his hand towards the guards, who picked Man Chong and separated head from torso once outside the tent. Following previous examples, his head went 'round the camp as warning towards conspirators. Cao Cao sighed as he dismissed his meagre council of now three men.






The Red Phoenix - Conclusion



And lo!, several days passed and there was no assassination attempts on any of the remaining council members. Cao Cao finally began regaining his self-trust, and set about to prepare for the attack against Sun Quan and Liu Bei.


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A very small fraction Cao Cao's Imperial Han troops, present Dynasty whose Imperial Symbol was Fire, taking the last drills, days before the attack. Cao Cao's army boasted 800,000 men, all posted on the Northern bank of the Yangtze river, only awaiting the Prime Minister's orders to embark in the fleet and proceed to attack Sun Quan's and Liu Bei's 50,000 troops, posted on the Southern shore and downstream of the same river.

As Cao Cao's troops trained, the Prime Minister sent for his Surpreme Naval Admiral, who came with all haste to Cao Cao's tent, where he layed reviewing some papers, with his trusty Xu Chu by his side. Saluting his Lord, Yu Jin inquired "Greetings, Prime Minister. What is it?" Cao Cao smiled at his General and revealed to him "Glad you are here Yu Jin. Look at this sight." Pointing his whip towards the window from his tent, and into the training most of the army was then undertaking. "I see you have intensified close combat training, Lord Cao. I take it we are to attack shortly?" Cao Cao nodded "Correct. I have been consulting with my advisors, namely Xun You, which had given the great idea of using the cover of the night to conceal our movements and take them by surprise. I want you to start preparing and stocking the fleet itself in every provision needed for the attack. It should come within days." Yu Jin nodded in compliance "As you wish, Prime Minister." said he before turning and going to begin the preparations. Soon enough, soldiers were being ordered to load the ships with thousands of carts with a myriad different military and naval utilities. Such a thing could not be kept from sight, and quickly the camp buzzed with rumors and conversation over the iminent attack.


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Cartloads of a myriad different supplies, ranging from common bolts for marine crossbowmen to ropes and other provisions began being stocked into Cao Cao's navy.

Cao Cao knew that with 800,000 talking about the same thing, news as to the incoming offensive would rapidly travel the dozen miles between both armies, and since Cao Cao could not afford to lose the surprise effect, an edict was spread at dawn prohibiting any and all conversation, rumor or hear-say about attacking, advancing or going on the offensive, under the harshest military penalty for offenders. In the morning, and to reinforce this aspect, he ordered Cao Ren to summon all military officers and order them to closely inspect and warn their men against talking about it. The conversation quickly died down, and while inspecting around the camp, Cao Cao happily noted that no incident had occurred, except for two soldiers, who were exactly caught talking about attacking, and were thus put to death. At night, orders were issued for part of the navy and the army to border ships during the very next morning for "major naval exercices". Cao Cao was aware that moving hundreds of thousands of men and board them in ships would take several hours, and these movements could be noted by spies, especially if these were in the river and on the shores. As such, Cao Cao ordered the pre-emptive boarding of part of the navy to clear the river off fisherman or any other vessel which could sight the troop movements of Cao Cao. The very next day, during the morning Cao Cao was already up and went off to see the soldiers border the ships, a total of 60,000 of them.


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Han Prime Minister Cao Cao inspecting the troops embarking on war vessels.

At the seventh watch, all soldiers were told to eat a double meal and remain on full alert and prepare to board the ships on the following watch. Once the appointed time had arrived, the legions rounded up and started boarding the ships. As predicted, the logistics behind putting 280,000 other men into ships took several hours and once the sun had set, the navy was in place. Before embarking, Cao Cao had given Cao Ren the task of leading the Vanguard of the navy against the enemy. Xun You went with Cao Cao in the flagship while Xu Chu led a squadron of ships alongside the Southern bank of the river. There were other worthy and famous generals in the attacking navy, such as Xu Huang, Zhang Liao, Cao Zhen, Cao Xiu, Cao Hong, Zhang He and Xiahou Yuan, each leading their own squadron.

Cao Cao, however, was not expecting that genius strategist Zhuge Liang, was seeing through his intentions.


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Zhuge Liang, the Sleeping Dragon. He was undoutedly one of the greatest military strategists of all times. He served Liu Bei, who had previously been defeated by Cao Cao and had now joined forces with Sun Quan to prevent Cao Cao from conquering Southern China, and Zhuge Liang had been sent to conjoin efforts with Sun Quan's Commander-in-Chief, Zhou Yu, also a great strategist.

Zhuge Liang warned fellow strategist Zhou Yu, who commanded the troops of Sun Quan, that Cao Cao's attack was imminent, and that he would try to make a surprise attack at night, but not before first attempting to find some way of allowing his troops to board his fleet without the knowledge getting to Cao Cao's enemies. He specifically said that Cao Cao would attempt to give us a false sense of security before launching an attack. The next day, once Zhou Yu heard the drums from afar*, Zhou Yu called Zhuge Liang once again. Zhuge Liang arrived smirking, and after salutations were exchanged, Zhou Yu could not help but praise his colleague, despite the gravity of the situation. "They must be trying to trick us into that they shall only train today. You are indeed right, Master Zhuge." Said Zhou Yu, rather concerned "Still, Cao Cao has not chained his ships together as Pang Tong was supposed to have convinced him do!"


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Zhou Yu in the middle, put before the dillemma of how to proceed before Cao Cao's attack.

Zhuge Liang could only smirk. "Indeed. Cao Cao shall surely order his navy to silence the drums as to give the impression that they have retreated back to the naval yards before setting out." Still, Zhuge Liang looked confidant that they could beat back Cao Cao. "Cao Cao's men are still poorly trained, and despite their huge numbers, our men and our ships are vastly better and well trained in naval warfare. Still, to have any chance we shall have to use it." Zhou Yu nodded nervously. He knew the crucial confrontation was about to begin. "I shall have my men get ready for battle." Zhuge Liang also betrayed some signs of nervousness. Despite his unparalelled skill in the Art of War, he was known to be an extraordinarily cautious man. Unhappily for him, the odds were vastly in favour of Cao Cao, and there was little he could do. He went to send for Liu Bei's navy to join up with Sun Quan's navy. Liu Bei's navy arrived at dusk, led by Guan Yu, Zhang Fei and Zhao Yun. Their combined navies boasted a total of 70,000 men, which was vastly outnumbered by Cao Cao's navy of 350,000 men.

As the night arrived, Cao Cao ordered his massive navy first to silence the drums, a ploy to make his enemies believe that they had retreated back to camp. One hour later, the general order to advance along to full width of the river downstream towards Sun Quan's naval base was given. As Cao Cao beheld his force gliding through water and comtemplated the lamps of his ships which stretched as far as his vision could reach, he became elated at the sight and very confident in his success.


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Cao Cao's immense navy stretched along the river like a dragon's body.

Cao Cao's navy progressed across the river, unwary of its opponents scheme to upset the invasion. Departing from Chaisang, Sun Quan's and Liu Bei's joint navy as not so small on its own, and contained large and sturdy warships, far bigger and better in size and armament than Cao Cao's gigantic but hastily assembled fleet. Further it had a van assembled of very special ships, which Zhou Yu and Zhuge Liang hoped with turn the battle around. It was to Cao Cao and his soldiers utter shock that the met the full enemy navy midway of their path towards their base at Chaisang. More than that, at the front of the Allied navy came some small but very distressing ships.


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These small boats were filled with combustible objects, which would be set on fire while the occupants of the ship abandoned it, boarding smaller boats.

The enemy ships quickly caught flames and sped up towards Cao Cao's fleet. There were dozens of them, since they were but small in size and easily manned by a few members. Cao Ren's ability and wit managed his vanguard to dodge the fire ships, which slipped through. Unfortunately, Cao Cao's fleet was so big that it occupied the full width of the river, and thus the ships behind the vanguard did not have the freedom of movement that Cao Ren's men had.

The result was that, with the eagerness to try to avoid the incoming fire vessels, several of Cao Cao's own ships manouvered and rammed against each other clogging up the passage for ships behind them. Even more, some of these ships here hit by the fire boats, and thus began burning. Fuelled by the winds, and since the vessels behind the ones already caught in flames had great difficulty manuevering past the stranded and burning ones, the fire began spreading to other mobile Cao Cao's ships. In addition, the rest of the allied navy came behind and began smiting Cao Ren's vanguard.

Cao Cao was utterly shocked at the change of events and he was immediatly to call a retreat, but Xun You calmed him down and pointed towards Cao Ren's ships in the vanguard which were at great cost holding back the Southern navies. Though fire spread from ship to ship, many other ships eventually took risks and passed through to aid Cao Ren's struggle. With Cao Cao's navy split in two, the Southern navy eventually the vanguard of Cao Cao's navy, still a good part of Cao Cao's was still intact. In plain night, both navies met around the site of where the ships burnt, many of Cao Cao's ships who manuevered badly by passing too close to the burning ships were themselves caught on flames, and that coupled with the difficulty of Cao Cao's ships in getting in range to attack or board the Southern navy, made the battle extremely confusing and lengthy.

As the night passed and the sun came up, and more and more ships on each size were taken or sunk, both Cao Cao, Zhou Yu and Zhuge Liang began seeing that despite the fact that the Han Navy had lost a gigantic amount of ships, its sheer size allowed it to gain advantage over the specialized but outnumbered Allied Navy. By day time, most of the fire had already died down as most ships had sunk, and the river look much more like a charred plank road than anything else. And the battle was only decisively terminated as Xu Chu's squadron did a bold encirclement over an Allied squadron which was defending the Southern flank of the river, ramming through some ships, and decisively defeated it, driving forward and attacking the main center of the Allied Navy, which routed and fled downstream towards their base.


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The last part of the battle, occurred already during the morning, as one of Xu Chu's ship smashes through an enemy vessel.

At the end, Cao Cao was astonished at the losses. Of the 350,000, initial estimates by his secretaries based on the number of sunken ships reports that the number of casualties could go as high as 300,000 men, the vast majority of the navy. Out of the fleet of 500 ships, only 46 remained in good shape. Thus, Cao Cao was put forth with the question whether to press and attack the retreating enemy or head back to his own camp. Before Cao Cao could answer, Cao Ren arrived from the shore, where he had been ever since his vanguard collapsed and his own ship was boarded by Sun Quan's marines, under gigantic pressure for the entire Allied Navy.

He came quickly, asking for the advancement of the navy and to finally destroy the Allied few remaining ships. Xun You, however advised a retreat back to the main camp, where Cao Cao still had half a million soldiers posted, as in the current situation of the navy, they were in no shape to make a successful invasion. Cao Cao nodded, and issued an orderly withdrawal back to the Naval Yards upstream, in Jiangling where Cao Cao's camp was located.

The next day, while Cao Cao still thought on which course of action to follow next, an emmissary from Sun Quan was announced. Before the conflict, Zhou Yu had ordered Cao Cao's messenger demanding Sun Quan's surrender to be executed, so Cao Cao was immediatly inclined to make Sun Quan's messenger of an example. But Xun You quickly dissuaded him from it "Do not do it Cao Cao. Sun Quan has just suffered a great defeat. He probably wishes to surrender. Pray listen to what the messenger has to say. If it does not please you, then kill him afterwards." Cao Cao nodded and granted the messenger an interview. After being granted entry, Cao Cao spoke, plainly irritated. "Zhou Yu has recently killed a messenger of mine. How does your Lord dare to send you here, if not for you to be put to death?" The messenger quickly replied. "But your Excellency is surely made up of lofty ideals, and it is only because of your superior inclination that my Lord he has thus sent me to speak to you." Cao Cao began smiling and nodded towards the messenger. "It appears Sun Quan knows me thouroughly." Said Cao Cao "But what has your defeated Lord to say to me?"
The messsenger promptly retorted "As my Lord as tried to settle scores with you through the force of arms, the Prime Minister and his valiant generals had shown why your is so magnificent and wise in warfare that the entire Empire is what your feet, and since your Excellency has won, Sun Quan shall not reject surrender before a superior man." Once the Messenger had finished speaking, Cao Cao got up from his chair with a wide grin on his face. It appears he had just won the war.

He rewarded the messenger lavishly, and sent him back with Xun You to accept his surrender.

Once arrived there, Xun You quickly demanded to know the whereabouts of Liu Bei, to which Sun Quan replied that Liu Bei and his officers including Zhuge Liang, were back in Jiangxia. After Xun You accepted the Seal of Authority from Sun Quan as a formal way of surrender, he went back to Cao Cao and informed him that Liu Bei, his final enemy was isolated in Jiangxia. Cao Cao quickly led his navy downstream and disembarked in the outskirts of the city, besieging it.
Liu Bei had too few men to oppose Cao Cao. He and his brothers tried a few sorties to break away from the city, but they all failed, and Liu Bei lost yet more men. Seeing all hope of escape over, and looking at the misery of the people of Jiangxia, Liu Bei and his brothers, together with Zhuge Liang, decided to put an end to their lives. Liu Bei ordered Liu Qi to surrender the city after he had died. However, Liu Qi, knowing the fate of his familly at the hands of Cao Cao**, killed himself as well, ordering Mi Zhu, one of Liu Bei's most loyal and senior officer, to formally surrender the city to Cao Cao.

6 years later...

When the South was firmly under Cao Cao's control, his supporters at the capital pressed the Han Emperor to name Cao Cao as "Prince of Wei", due to his vast services in reunifying the country under "Han" control. That was 4 years ago. 2 years after the South was conquered, Cao Cao launched the attack on the final region still left unconquered: The West. In a lightning invasion, city after city surrendered before Cao Cao's surpreme might. The West's most powerful warlord, the Governor of Yi, Liu Zhang, surrendered after Cao Cao demanded it so. Liu Zhang knew he could not resist the mighty Prime Minister.

So, now, two years after the reunification of China, the Han Emperor has finally acknowledged the superior virtue and skill of Cao Cao, and that he that rendered such good service to the Han and his equally skilled children, are the most fit clan to lead China into another thousand years of peace of prosperity of for all!!!


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Cao Cao is acclaimed as Emperor of Wei!

(*- Ancient Chinese armies used drums and small explosives, like firecrackers when executing attacks as a way to cause confusion and anxiety among the enemy while at the same time spurring their own men forward. When training, armies did the same.)
(**-Before the battle this write up is depicting, Cao Cao had just conquered the province of Jing. Jing had been ruled by Liu Qi's father, which had died shortly before Cao Cao's invasion. After his father had died, Liu Qi's younger brother, Liu Cong, took over the governorship of Jing, and Liu Qi was "exiled" to govern Jiangxia. When Cao Cao invaded Jing, Liu Cong surrendered the entire province -except Jiangxia, which Liu Qi did not yield-, and Cao Cao ordered Liu Cong to depart away from Jing to Northern China. After Liu Cong had departed, Cao Cao ordered his troops to persue Liu Cong and kill him along with his familly.)



WEI (魏)/CAO CAO (曹操) (TOWN) VICTORY!

Thank you all for participating! :bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

*phew* nice job team. :2thumbsup: Congrats, Wei. Cheers to all.


Nice game, Jolt, thank you for hosting.

[Yaropolk]

Awesome rewrite of how the battle of Red Cliffs could've turned out. Can you please post roles publically, particularly Beskars?

[Death is yonder]

Good game Jolt, thanks for hosting.

Congratulations, especially to ATPG who picked out both Khaan and me.

I must admit I was a little frustrated when khaan read my pm, but otherwise had zero communication with me. Eventually after he died, I decided I'd just play for fun, to amuse the town, unfortunately my plans of sowing discord with random kills did not succeed as ATPG was protected and I was converged upon.

The reason for the lack of kill N1 was me investigating Diana, subsequently, killing her, then killing Atheotes.

Apparently Khaan had the same abilities as me, so this game might have gone much differently if more kills were present.

The emergent mafia really rode on our boat, the town had overextended themselves and nearly revealed all in the do-or-die process of eliminating us, most of your tricks were spent, but I congratulate the town on snatching victory, good game.

:bow:

And contrary to your belief, I don't know whether the emergent mafia had a cover role, but we sure didn't :laugh4:


Greetings, Death is yonder!

Congratulations! You are Guest Advisor Pang Tong


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Pang Tong, Guest Advisor of the Han Army

You are a man of vast intellect, far superior to all in Cao Cao's camp. You dominate the Art of War and every form of deception, truly you are Zhang Liang's second. However, to save the empire, you have taken upon yourself to do the more difficult task of assassinating Cao Cao and his staff, but you have put rumors circulating in his camp to make all advisors doubt of each other but you. With your friend Xu Shu's (Yaseikhaan) assistance, you may very well succeed in your quest to eliminate Cao Cao and break his army apart. But to do that you must act with the utmost caution and discretion, and must convince the other advisors that neither you nor Xu Shu are guilty of starting a bloodshed, phreaps pointing out to other men within Cao Cao's staff. Doing so, you might have a chance of success and saving the dynasty.

Abilities: Assassinating (You have the ability to kill one person per night. That person will surely be murdered unless something unexpected happens.)
Spying (You have the ability to spy someone at night. Not only is this useful as you are undetected for activity for that night, but you also find if the spied target is useful to be killed first or not.)

Victory Conditions: Kill everyone except Xu Shu to win

Have fun! :P

[Askthepizzaguy]

:bow: My goal in every game is to be the single largest boil on the bottoms of the mafia.

I didn't imagine there would be freakin' four mafiosi in this game. Holy poop on a stick doing the macarena, that was totally unnecessary! :laugh4:

[atheotes]

2 mafia to start with... but looks like there were atleast a couple of roles who could start a mafia family if certain characters died.
I too had the opportunity for that. I could have helped the town because i knew about this and hence the ban on me by the host :yes:

there were no cover roles and no need for one for the emergent mafia.


Greetings, atheotes!

Congratulations! You are Palace Counsellor Jia Xu


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Jia Xu, Palace Counsellor of Han

A man of great intelect, you never been surpassed by anyone throughout your carrer. With your advice, Li Jue and Guo Si turned from fugitives and bandits into Masters of the Han Emperor, defeating easily the Imperial Forces under Lu Bu. Later, while serving Zhang Xiu, according to your plans you cajoled and defeated Cao Cao a handful of times, wisely convincing your ruler to submit to Cao Cao when Mengde was fighting Yuan Shao. You recently advised Cao Cao to develop the North and the newly gained Jing province, rather than attack Sun Quan's and Liu Bei's forces in the South, but he has overlooked your advice. Still, you have accompanied him to your expedition and are attempting to do your best for Cao Cao, though these rumors have been quite strange. You suspect that the true person behind the rumors is Pang Tong, but since these rumors have talked exactly about strategists being jealous of Pang Tong, you have refrained from telling it to Cao Cao, lest the rumoring lie does the work of truth.

However, after all these years serving 6 different Lords, and getting your valuable advice rejected many different times, you grow weary of the inaptitude of those above you. Prime-Minister Cao Cao is no different and the present situation is all his fault. You are undoubtlessly the most valuable advisor and warlord of Cao Cao, but you feel that should the fate of the empire be in your hands, under your wise guidance, you would easily unify the Empire and usurp the Dragon Throne from the Han Dynasty for yourself and forge an everlasting Dynasty of wise men. Thinking ahead, should you wish so, you can use this situation Pang Tong created and murder your rivals and then Cao Cao himself, after which you would assume the position of Commander in Chief of Cao Cao's armies and use them to restore control of the Imperial Capital, and later, the provinces, rendering you absolute control over the Empire. But you know both Sima Yi and Xun Yu, your fellow colleagues in camp, are also very clever and would notice your doings as long as they are alive. Once they're dead, you can bring someone under your guidance and together, you can plot to kill Cao Cao and take control of the Empire!

Abilities:
The Power of Intellect - You are one of the greatest minds of the age. Your intellect and mastery of deception and tactics can work to your advantage in trying to figure out who is the culprit, through their night actions. (You have a one-time investigation power)
Judge of Character - You spend the night talking over to one of your fellow colleagues to find out if he's a suitable companion to aid you to destroy Cao Cao and the rest his close staff. Because of your superior intellect, you can actually tell whether or not if the person would support you, as well as if and what are their powers. However, for this to succeed without drawing attention, you can only do this once Sima Yi and Xun Yu are dead. (Should you wish to persue creating your own Mafia family, you have two further investigation attempts on other colleagues. You will find out which are their powers and if the character can accept to join you or not. You will lose this power once you have chosen a companion to form a Mafia familly. You can only try to start a Mafia Family once both Sima Yi and Xun Yu are dead.)

Victory Conditions: Townie: Kill every mafioso to win. /// Mafia: Kill everyone but your companion to win.

Have fun! :P

[Sprig]

yeah my bad.

Greetings, Sprig!

Congratulations! You are Junior Military Advisor Sima Yi


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Sima Yi, Junior Military Advisor of the Han Army

Though not even 20 years old, ever since being introduced in Cao Cao's service by Xun Yu, you have already been called upon and trusted by the Prime Minster to be a part of his inner circle of advisors, and show your worth in the upcoming invasion of the South. The rumors began exactly after Pang Tong arrived. This has led you to believe that he is behind the plot, but since these rumors have talked exactly about strategists being jealous of Pang Tong, you have refrained from telling it to Cao Cao, lest the rumoring lie becomes true. Using your superior intellect phreaps this is the time where you can prove the Prime Minister of your worth.

Yet, deep down you already know your worth, and you know that you vastly outsmart all of your peers in Cao Cao's staff. As a simple youth, nobody will suspect you, thus giving you the idea that you may use this commotion to attempt to wrest control of the army of Cao Cao by killing him and his staff, and using the army then to pacify the Imperial Capital and usurp the Dragon Throne, establishing your own Dynasty on the ruins of the decrepit Han Dynasty. However, both Jia Xu and Xun Yu are also very wise and knowledgable and without them out of the scene, your great ambitions will not go unnoticed by them. Therefore, they must be dead before you attempt to try anything against Cao Cao himself. You may then try to find a suitable colleague to help you kill Cao Cao and establish your own dynasty. Do this only if you wish to create your own Mafia Family.

Ability:
Abilities: The Power of Intelligence - You are one of the greatest minds of the age. Your intellect and mastery of deception and tactics can work to your advantage in trying to figure out who is the culprit, through their night actions. (You have a one-time investigation power)
Judge of Character - You spend the night talking over to one of your fellow colleagues to find out if he's a suitable companion to aid you to destroy Cao Cao and the rest his close staff. You cannot tell, however, if they are able to join you or not. For this to succeed without drawing attention, you can only do this once Jia Xu and Xun Yu are dead. (Should you wish to persue creating your own Mafia family, you have one further investigation attempt on other colleagues. You will find out which are their powers and if the character can accept to join you or not. You will lose this power once you have chosen a companion to form a Mafia family. You can only try to start a Mafia Family once both Jia Xu and Xun Yu are dead.)

Victory Conditions: Townie: Kill every mafioso to win. /// Mafia: Kill everyone but your companion to win.

Have fun! :P

you can imagine my surprise when i used my power on paulus. So I then accused him, and then he imcriminated himselfby saying he could have gone mafia !!!

With him out of the way i was free to find a partner. I got another scan to find out if someone would be willing to join me.

So guess who I scanned :P

I could have left it, we it was clear we would win. but i thought it would be unfair on everyone if i didn't go mafia.

Such a shame that I got caught by faction heir... :( otherwise.

[Beskar]

Awesome rewrite of how the battle of Red Cliffs could've turned out. Can you please post roles publically, particularly Beskars?

I posted my role-pm.

Sprig force-mafia recruited me just before he died.

So anything about my pm looky dodgy or past behaviour comments were invalid.

[FactionHeir]

Greetings, FactionHeir!

Congratulations! You are Leader of the Tiger Guard Xu Chu


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Xu Chu, Leader of the Tiger Guard of Prime Minister Cao Cao

You were a simple peasent in Qiao until you joined the service of the Prime Minister. From there on you have been in the Prime Minister's greatest esteem as his most loyal bodyguard and good commander. Besides protecting him, you yourself led the attack against Zhang Xiu and you killed 10,000 men yourself. Against Yuan Shao, you alone surpressed a mutiny which was going to kill Cao Cao, and went on to display your valor in battle against Yuan Shao. Now the Prime Minister is on the eve of attacking Wu, and these rumors have cast suspicion on your mind. You know that the Prime Minister is untouchable as you leave your Tiger Guard with him almost all of your time, but you have decided to take matters into your own hands to prevent the bloodshed and foil another mutiny once again.

Abilities: Guarding (You have the ability to protect one person per night. That person will surely be saved if anyone attacks, and if you manage to have a stroke of luck, phreaps you can identify or kill the attacker.)

Victory Conditions: Kill every mafioso to win.

Have fun! :P

I pretty much kept to protecting myself except when I figured ATPG would likely be a night target.

Slightly confused why the write up mentioned 3 of us voting Beskar though when it was a tie.

[Joooray]

Wow, that was an amazing conclusion write-up. And it's great to have survived all of this, though admittely I have been of little importance so also not a real target for either the mafia or the town. But appartently without my advise we wouldn't have won that battle, right?! :laugh4: :wink:

Thank you, Jolt, for hosting the game. The setting was very unique and indeed very interesting. Only the names of the characters had me utterly confused cause I had a hard time telling them apart when reading the write ups. :sweatdrop:

Also ... wohoo ... go TOWN!! :beam: Thanks to everybody of the town, who invested a lot more to make this victory happen than I did. :bow:

[Jolt]

Slightly confused why the write up mentioned 3 of us voting Beskar though when it was a tie.

The write-up does not mention that at all. All it says is that "[...]in the end, the three decided that Beskar was the one to go" (e.g. random.org'd), as Cao Cao's State of Mind prevented him from doing that anymore.

[Jolt]

The Roles


Basic Townies:


Centurion1 - Mao Jie:
Congratulations! You are Naval Commander Mao Jie


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Mao Jie, Admiral of the Han invasion Fleet

Though not as resourceful as other advisors, you have the necessary wits and intelligence, coupled with overall proficiency in State matters to be very useful to Prime Minister Cao Cao. Not only are you smart enough to provide advice that is taken into account by other people, but your skill in handling political and bureaucratic matters, as well as your skill in naval affairs have made Cao Cao put you in charge of organizing his naval forces for the attack against Sun Quan when the time comes. These rumors have been quite strange. You have been quite suspicious of the other advisors and strategists trying to take advantage of the situation of little training of the troops to blame it on Cao Cao and murder him, taking his place. But you need to be aware if everything the advisors say is on par with the truth or not.

((You are a regular townie))

Victory Conditions: Kill every mafioso to win.

Have fun! :P


Askthepizzaguy - Liu Ye:
Congratulations! You are Inspector of the Army Liu Ye


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Liu Ye, Inspector of the Han Army

You are a man of bright intelligence, recommended to Cao Cao but none other than recently past-away Lord Guo Jia. You have provided valuable insight whenever you were in campaign with your Lord, as was the case of the ploy by Chen Gong against Cao Cao when Lu Bu was still alive. Your advise is very valued by Cao Cao, and as such, you have been brought in campaign to give insight on how to attack the South. These rumors have been quite strange, and you are unsure whether the other advisors did write the protesting papers or it is all a ploy. Still, you shall have to rely on your wits to figure out if there is a traitor among you.

((You are a regular townie))

Victory Conditions: Kill every mafioso to win.


Joooray - Xun You (Would have been a part of Xun Yu's Mafia familly):
Congratulations! You are Co-Chief Military Advisor Xun You


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Xun You, Co-Chief Military Advisor of the Han Army

You are the nephew of Xun Yu, and like your uncle you too served Yuan Shao. You turned away from him and every since joining Cao Cao you have given him great advice. As such, Cao Cao did reward you with the rank of Co-Chief Military Advisor of the whole force under him. These rumors have been quite strange. You do not know what to make of them, or who wrote them. You suspect that it is really a ruse by Zhou Yu that is trying to trick the Prime-Minister into killing you all. Still, best keep an open eye about everyone.

((You're a regular townie))

Victory Conditions: Kill every mafioso.


Yaropolk - Chen Qun:
Congratulations! You are Chancellor's Assistent Chen Qun


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Chen Qun, Chancellor's Assistent of Han

Having been recruited by the Prime Minister himself, Cao Cao knows your worth. Though you have been so far overshadowed by other more established advisors, now in this invasion, you can prove your worth and show to the staff that you are worthy of as much praise as other advisors. These rumors have been quite strange. Apparently they have been created by mutinous staff and people might look to you, with your inexperience and possible dissatisfaction that Cao Cao looked to another newcomer and leaned much on him, which might have made you jealous and mutinous. Because of this chance, you have refrained from pointing to other people which might draw people to suspect you. Phreaps if the rumors are real, than you have the perfect chance to prove to the prime minister your superiority amongst senior officers.

((You are a regular townie))

Victory Conditions: Kill every mafioso to win.




Advanced Townies:


A Very Super Market - Cao Ren:
Congratulations! You are General Who Subdues the South Cao Ren


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Cao Ren, General who Subdues the South

You are a cousin of the Prime Minister himself, and have followed him since he settled in Chen Liu. You have gained great reknown as your cousin's expansion continued and you have been a safe support for Cao Cao ever since. You are one of the very few Military Generals that Cao Cao allows to be inside his advisory staff, as your advice has served the Prime Minister well on multiple occasions. These rumors have been quite strange. You are not sure of who has spread them around the camp, but as a member of Cao Cao's close staff, and being related to him, you fear lest people should start thinking you wish to supplant him due to your close kinship, and have thus avoided to take a stance in the rumors. But better keep an open eye.

Abilities: The Power of War - You are already a veteran in war, battling for your Lord Cao Cao ever since he first raised troops to depose the tyrant Dong Zhuo and save the dynasty. Since then you have taken parts in dozens of battles and killed many enemies. You are a good enough warrior, and you can stay alert when needed. That may prove useful in the next days (You have a one-time defence/doctor power. That may be used on yourself as well.)

Victory Conditions: Kill every mafioso to win.

Have fun! :P


Diana Abnoba - Xiahou Dun:
Congratulations! You are General of Sharp Edge Xiahou Dun


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Xiahou Dun, General of Sharp Edge

A great master in civillian affairs, you are also decidedly skilled in the Art of War. Your close relation with Cao Cao has only benefitted you, and you now serve between General and Advisor to your cousin Cao Cao. These rumors have been quite strange. You are not sure of who has spread them around the camp, but as a member of Cao Cao's close staff, and being related to him, you fear lest people should start thinking you wish to supplant him due to your close kinship, and have thus avoided to take a stance in the rumors. But better keep an open eye (Your only eye).

Abilities: The Power of Leadership - You are already a veteran in war, battling for your cousin Cao Cao ever since he first raised troops to depose the tyrant Dong Zhuo and save the dynasty. Since then you have taken parts in dozens of battles and killed many enemies. You are a good enough General, and you can stay alert when needed. That may prove useful in the next days (You have a one-time defence/doctor power. That may be used on yourself as well.)

Have fun! :P


Subotan - Yang Xiu:
Congratulations! You are Clerk of Supplies Transportation Yang Xiu


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Yang Xiu, Clerk of Supplies Transportation of Han

You are a man of great intellect and of intelligence which far surpasses your peers. You are indeed skilled in Civil Affairs and Political matters, and have been brought along to give advice on non-military matters, such as the logistical load of moving an army of one million men. Exactly being so, and since the Prime Minister heard your great reputation, he has summonned you to come with him on the expedition. These rumors have been quite strange. You suspect that the true person behind the rumors is Pang Tong, but since these rumors have talked exactly about strategists being jealous of Pang Tong, you have refrained from telling it to Cao Cao, lest the rumoring lie does the work of truth.

Abilities: The Power of Charisma - You have mastered throughout these years on how to argue your point of view. In the forthcoming execution debates, such a practice will be extremely benefitial to you. (You have a one-time one vote-switching power)

Victory Conditions: Kill every mafioso to win.

Advanced Possible Mafia-Forming Townies:


atheotes - Jia Xu:
Congratulations! You are Palace Counsellor Jia Xu
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Jia Xu, Palace Counsellor of Han

A man of great intelect, you never been surpassed by anyone throughout your carrer. With your advice, Li Jue and Guo Si turned from fugitives and bandits into Masters of the Han Emperor, defeating easily the Imperial Forces under Lu Bu. Later, while serving Zhang Xiu, according to your plans you cajoled and defeated Cao Cao a handful of times, wisely convincing your ruler to submit to Cao Cao when Mengde was fighting Yuan Shao. You recently advised Cao Cao to develop the North and the newly gained Jing province, rather than attack Sun Quan's and Liu Bei's forces in the South, but he has overlooked your advice. Still, you have accompanied him to your expedition and are attempting to do your best for Cao Cao, though these rumors have been quite strange. You suspect that the true person behind the rumors is Pang Tong, but since these rumors have talked exactly about strategists being jealous of Pang Tong, you have refrained from telling it to Cao Cao, lest the rumoring lie does the work of truth.

However, after all these years serving 6 different Lords, and getting your valuable advice rejected many different times, you grow weary of the inaptitude of those above you. Prime-Minister Cao Cao is no different and the present situation is all his fault. You are undoubtlessly the most valuable advisor and warlord of Cao Cao, but you feel that should the fate of the empire be in your hands, under your wise guidance, you would easily unify the Empire and usurp the Dragon Throne from the Han Dynasty for yourself and forge an everlasting Dynasty of wise men. Thinking ahead, should you wish so, you can use this situation Pang Tong created and murder your rivals and then Cao Cao himself, after which you would assume the position of Commander in Chief of Cao Cao's armies and use them to restore control of the Imperial Capital, and later, the provinces, rendering you absolute control over the Empire. But you know both Sima Yi and Xun Yu, your fellow colleagues in camp, are also very clever and would notice your doings as long as they are alive. Once they're dead, you can bring someone under your guidance and together, you can plot to kill Cao Cao and take control of the Empire!

Abilities:
The Power of Intellect - You are one of the greatest minds of the age. Your intellect and mastery of deception and tactics can work to your advantage in trying to figure out who is the culprit, through their night actions. (You have a one-time investigation power)
Judge of Character - You spend the night talking over to one of your fellow colleagues to find out if he's a suitable companion to aid you to destroy Cao Cao and the rest his close staff. Because of your superior intellect, you can actually tell whether or not if the person would support you, as well as if and what are their powers. However, for this to succeed without drawing attention, you can only do this once Sima Yi and Xun Yu are dead. (Should you wish to persue creating your own Mafia family, you have two further investigation attempts on other colleagues. You will find out which are their powers and if the character can accept to join you or not. You will lose this power once you have chosen a companion to form a Mafia familly. You can only try to start a Mafia Family once both Sima Yi and Xun Yu are dead.)

Victory Conditions: Townie: Kill every mafioso to win. /// Mafia: Kill everyone but your companion to win.

Have fun! :P


Paulus Tertius - Xun Yu:
Congratulations! You are Co-Chief Military Advisor Xun Yu


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Xun Yu, Co-Chief Military Advisor of the Han Army

You are a man of great reknown throughout the administration of Cao Cao. Though you first served Yuan Shao, you quickly left him for your present Lord, who valued your ability so greatly as to call you his Zhang Liang. He has sent for you from Xu Chang as only a man of your capability can help him in this daunting task of conquering Wu. You have recommended him the most able men around him, men like Xun You, Chen Qun, the great Guo Jia and the young promise Sima Yi, most of which are your companions in the camp, now in the eve of this great battle. You have often given timely and crucial advice to Cao Cao, and now that Guo Jia is gone, he trusts your advice more than ever. These rumors have been rather strange. You have suspected that Pang Tong may be indeed behind the plot, but then again Jia Xu is wily enough to try to rob everyone of glory with his intellect and may still really be loyal to Zhang Xiu. So it might be best to stay suspicious of everyone.

Ever since Cao Cao defeated Yuan Shao, he has been increasingly arrogant and bold in the presence of the Emperor. While he is your friend and patron, you suspect that he aims to establish his own dynasty, or at the very least gain ranks of nobility only reserved for the Imperial Family. It occurred to you, to use this situation so you can attempt to recruit your own nephew and companion here in the camp, Xun You, to help you kill Cao Cao, and the other close staff, and then take control of his army, leading back to the capital and restoring the true power to Emperor Xian, who has been nothing more than a puppet in the hands of Cao Cao. However, Jia Xu and Sima Yi are both men of tremendous ability and if you attempt to conspire with Xun You before they both are dead, they will surely notice your wrong-doing. As such, before you can persue this course, both Jia Xu and Sima Yi will have to be dead. This is only optional, as if you wish to value your friendship with Cao Cao more importantly than your loyalty towards the Emperor, then you need not try to kill Cao Cao.

Abilities: The Power of Politics - You have mastered throughout these years on how to argue your point of view. In the forthcoming execution debates, such a practice will be extremely benefitial to you. (You have a one-time one vote-switching power)
Saving the Dynasty - Once both Jia Xu and Sima Yi are dead, then you must find out who is Xun You by any means possible. If you do, both of you need to send me a PM saying you both wish to form a Mafia Family together. You can only try to start your Mafia Family once both Jia Xu and Sima Yi are dead.

Victory Conditions: Townie: Kill every mafioso to win. /// Mafia: Kill everyone but Xun You to win.


Pro-Town Power Role:


Faction Heir - Xu Chu:
Congratulations! You are Leader of the Tiger Guard Xu Chu


http://www.kongming.net/11/i/p/port_lg/355-Xu-Chu.jpg
Xu Chu, Leader of the Tiger Guard of Prime Minister Cao Cao

You were a simple peasent in Qiao until you joined the service of the Prime Minister. From there on you have been in the Prime Minister's greatest esteem as his most loyal bodyguard and good commander. Besides protecting him, you yourself led the attack against Zhang Xiu and you killed 10,000 men yourself. Against Yuan Shao, you alone surpressed a mutiny which was going to kill Cao Cao, and went on to display your valor in battle against Yuan Shao. Now the Prime Minister is on the eve of attacking Wu, and these rumors have cast suspicion on your mind. You know that the Prime Minister is untouchable as you leave your Tiger Guard with him almost all of your time, but you have decided to take matters into your own hands to prevent the bloodshed and foil another mutiny once again.

Abilities: Guarding (You have the ability to protect one person per night. That person will surely be saved if anyone attacks, and if you manage to have a stroke of luck, phreaps you can identify or kill the attacker.)

Victory Conditions: Kill every mafioso to win.


Emerging Mafia:


Sprig - Sima Yi (Advanced Townie who formed a Mafia Familly):
Congratulations! You are Junior Military Advisor Sima Yi


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Sima Yi, Junior Military Advisor of the Han Army

Though not even 20 years old, ever since being introduced in Cao Cao's service by Xun Yu, you have already been called upon and trusted by the Prime Minster to be a part of his inner circle of advisors, and show your worth in the upcoming invasion of the South. The rumors began exactly after Pang Tong arrived. This has led you to believe that he is behind the plot, but since these rumors have talked exactly about strategists being jealous of Pang Tong, you have refrained from telling it to Cao Cao, lest the rumoring lie becomes true. Using your superior intellect phreaps this is the time where you can prove the Prime Minister of your worth.

Yet, deep down you already know your worth, and you know that you vastly outsmart all of your peers in Cao Cao's staff. As a simple youth, nobody will suspect you, thus giving you the idea that you may use this commotion to attempt to wrest control of the army of Cao Cao by killing him and his staff, and using the army then to pacify the Imperial Capital and usurp the Dragon Throne, establishing your own Dynasty on the ruins of the decrepit Han Dynasty. However, both Jia Xu and Xun Yu are also very wise and knowledgable and without them out of the scene, your great ambitions will not go unnoticed by them. Therefore, they must be dead before you attempt to try anything against Cao Cao himself. You may then try to find a suitable colleague to help you kill Cao Cao and establish your own dynasty. Do this only if you wish to create your own Mafia Family.

Ability:
Abilities: The Power of Intelligence - You are one of the greatest minds of the age. Your intellect and mastery of deception and tactics can work to your advantage in trying to figure out who is the culprit, through their night actions. (You have a one-time investigation power)
Judge of Character - You spend the night talking over to one of your fellow colleagues to find out if he's a suitable companion to aid you to destroy Cao Cao and the rest his close staff. You cannot tell, however, if they are able to join you or not. For this to succeed without drawing attention, you can only do this once Jia Xu and Xun Yu are dead. (Should you wish to persue creating your own Mafia family, you have one further investigation attempt on other colleagues. You will find out which are their powers and if the character can accept to join you or not. You will lose this power once you have chosen a companion to form a Mafia family. You can only try to start a Mafia Family once both Jia Xu and Xun Yu are dead.)

Victory Conditions: Townie: Kill every mafioso to win. /// Mafia: Kill everyone but your companion to win.


Beskar - Man Chong (Recruited Basic Townie):
Congratulations! You are General Who Is Mighty Man Chong


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Man Chong, General Who Is Mighty

A talented advisor and general, you had been recommended to Cao Cao by Liu Ye. You showed your worth when you brought over Xu Huang, which has been tremendously helpful in Cao Cao's drive to success. Your worthiness doesn't exhaust there, as you have also done service spying in the campaign against Cao Cao and you have frequently been called to advise the Prime Minister on military matters. These rumors have been quite strange, and you are unsure what to make of them. Phreaps listening closely to what the other advisors say might give you an idea if someone did indeed write the protesting papers or not.

((You are a regular townie))

Victory Conditions: Kill every mafioso to win.

Have fun! :P


Original Mafia:


Yaseikhaan - Xu Shu:
Congratulations! You are Junior Advisor Xu Shu


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Xu Shu, Junior Advisor of Han

Having served Liu Biao and Liu Bei, you have led Liu Bei's forces to victory over the Prime Minister, and in such a way that the only way he saw to remove you was through manipulation of your mother. Since you are a fillial son, you obviously valued familly over duty, so you left Liu Bei, giving him the contact of Zhuge Liang, which was the great strategist you ever knew. That being so you return to your mother to notice you had been manipulated and as a consequence of your mother's high sense of honor, she killed herself in disgust of you having left Liu Bei. Afterwards, you burned of revenge for your mothers death and you hadn't found a moment to make away with Cao Cao and rightfully repay Liu Bei's kindness until this moment. Your companion Pang Tong (Death is yonder) has put rumors circulating in the camp to make all advisors doubt of each other but you. With your friend Pang Tong's assistance, you may very well succeed in your quest to eliminate Cao Cao and break his army apart. But to do that you must act with the utmost caution and discretion, and must convince the other advisors that neither you nor Pang Tong are guilty of starting a bloodshed, phreaps pointing out to other men within Cao Cao's staff. Doing so, you might have a chance of success and saving the dynasty. Liu Bei might take advantage of the collapse of Cao Cao's army to recover control of Xu and phreaps Yan and the Emperor. Than it might just be a matter of time, before a strong Han is restored to its rightful place, according to Liu Bei's wishes.

Abilities: Assassinating (You have the ability to kill one person per night. That person will surely be murdered unless something unexpected happens.)
Spying (You have the ability to spy someone at night. Not only is this useful as you are undetected for activity for that night, but you also find if the spied target is useful to be killed first or not.)

Victory Conditions: Kill everyone except Pang Tong to win.

Have fun! :P


Death is Yonder - Pang Tong:
Congratulations! You are Guest Advisor Pang Tong


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Pang Tong, Guest Advisor of the Han Army

You are a man of vast intellect, far superior to all in Cao Cao's camp. You dominate the Art of War and every form of deception, truly you are Zhang Liang's second. However, to save the empire, you have taken upon yourself to do the more difficult task of assassinating Cao Cao and his staff, but you have put rumors circulating in his camp to make all advisors doubt of each other but you. With your friend Xu Shu's (Yaseikhaan) assistance, you may very well succeed in your quest to eliminate Cao Cao and break his army apart. But to do that you must act with the utmost caution and discretion, and must convince the other advisors that neither you nor Xu Shu are guilty of starting a bloodshed, phreaps pointing out to other men within Cao Cao's staff. Doing so, you might have a chance of success and saving the dynasty.

Abilities: Assassinating (You have the ability to kill one person per night. That person will surely be murdered unless something unexpected happens.)
Spying (You have the ability to spy someone at night. Not only is this useful as you are undetected for activity for that night, but you also find if the spied target is useful to be killed first or not.)

Victory Conditions: Kill everyone except Xu Shu to win

Have fun! :P

[Jolt]

Curious situations in the game:

- Several characters here did not historically participate in the Red Cliffs battle. Such would be the case of Sima Yi (Only had around 19 years old at the time), Xiahou Dun, (who was posted up in Northern China during this battle) or Chen Qun (Who was similarly young and in his early 20s, despite not even being a military advisor.), however since they were later historically famous Wei advisors, I decided to include them over obscure Wei advisors whose Role PMs I could not put much information into.

- The game could have been over extraordinarily fast. While on Day 2, Yaseikhaan was lynched, on night 3, atheotes submitted orders to investigate DiY, which was the other mafioso. Fortunately, DiY sent in orders to kill atheotes that very same night. Talk about luck in picking their target. :P

- Sprig discovering Paulus (Xun Yu) with his one-time investigation. Since he needed both atheotes (Jia Xu) and Paulus (Xun Yu) dead to form a familly, and atheotes had already been killed by DiY, he proceeded to incriminate and get the town to lynch poor Paulus. Since he had disposed of his two key opponents to form a Mafia familly, he recieved an additional investigation power to see if the investigated character would be willing to join his familly. The target for this investigation was DiY (Pang Tong) >_>. After incriminating DiY the following day, Sprig took a risk to try and randomly recruit another player to form a Mafia familly (All advanced townies would reject joining Sprig, and they would know that Sprig was Sima Yi and had attempted to recruit them into a Mafia familly.) Fortunately for Sprig, he picked Beskar, who was Man Chong, a basic townie. The thing was that while the original Mafia members could each kill separately, this new emergent familly could only kill together until one of them died. The first target was newly revealed Faction Heir (Xu Chu), who obviously protected himself, and was terribly lucky in succeeding on the recognization check on Sima Yi. (Which had 5% chance of success).

- There were three men who could form a Mafia familly: Jia Xu, Xun Yu and Sima Yi. Each needed the other two dead before being able to form a mafia familly. Note that these three are basically the brightest and most virtuous strategists in Cao Cao's staff. Both Jia Xu and Sima Yi could, upon death of the other two, recruit a basic townie. Xun Yu on the other hand, would immediatly recruit his nephew and later fellow Cao Cao opposer, Xun You. I made Xun Yu forming Mafia probabilities exceptionally low by giving him a power of vote-switching, instead of an investigation power, as Xun Yu's Mafia familly would attempt to restore the power back to the Han Emperor. As such, Xun Yu would have to count on luck or the other two revealing themselves (Which was unlikely) for his chance to form a Mafia familly to shine.

[Diana Abnoba]

Great game Jolt, thanks for hosting. :2thumbsup:

Great job town!!!

Should have used my 1x protection on myself, but usually I don't get hit right away, and didn't want to waste it on the 1st night. Well live and learn. :laugh4:

[Sprig]

I can not speak more highly of this game, even though I was cruelly ousted by a 5% chance… I think I might have had it in the bag if this hadn’t happened.

But then again I wasn’t about to mention who I was due to the fact I was well aware the it was Sima Yi’s descendants that founded the following dynasty and Sima Yi was responsible for outing most of the Cao Cao’s Heirs.

As for Paulus, I was really worried. His character while suspected of being assassinated for opposing Cao Cao on some key matters had actually had nothing but good advice for Cao Cao. I believe all Paulus needed to do was highlight the good parts of his characters history and put the pressure back on me. Instead he thought that I knew something about him being able to turn mafia. (Which I didn't)

Anyway, whats done is done.

Thank you very much Jolt for a fantastic game, :2thumbsup: the write ups were very well done. You can count on me signing up if you decided to host a larger version.

[seireikhaan]

I have to apologize to my partner in crime. I was a bit strung thin between rl and large games at the time, and simply the game passed me by for the first couple rounds, and by the time I had my stuff in order, the game had gotten even further along. Sorry.

From what I've pieced together, a very good game, Jolt. :yes: Thanks.

[Jolt]

There are plans for a Large Game, which will incorporate most famous Three Kingdoms characters in it. I have found a method of inserting many more characters then players into the game, and they will all be controlled by players, and all will have impact in the game. It will be somewhat complex, and this is still on the drawing board, so it probably take a year or so before I even queue the the game to be played.

[atheotes]

i was an excellent game Jolt and i thoroughly enjoyed it even though i got killed so early. I will definitely look forward to any games you host. :2thumbsup:

DIY - on the night you killed me, i had submitted orders to use my one time investigation power on you. you were very scummy :bow: