Yorkists vs. Lancastrians

[Efrem Da King]

Yorkists all the way man. I always love commenting on the wars of the roses. Anyone have an oppinion?

[deejayvee]

I have a hunch that Richard III was innocent.

[Red Peasant]

As a Lancastrian myself, I say, "No Way Down with Dastardly Dick...he had it coming" http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Alrowan]

hmm

im torn between two halves...

Lancastrian because its a part of my heritage

York because its a part of my heritage......

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i would chose lancastrian in the end, as the yorkists were more insistent on killing the scottish as the lanacastirans were... another part of my heritage

[Hakonarson]

Stuart all the way http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[Efrem Da King]

Richard the third was innocent, I believe duke of bukingham did it to try to get in the good books with richard but it just pissed him of soo bucking ham led a revolt against him,
and also richarddid not have hunch just a overly developed sword arm, cause he wasn't weak a$$ p*ssy like henry the 7, Bloody tudor scum. (like commies only earlier http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif ) The stuarts rock I must admit, but are no-where near as good as yorkists http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/redface.gif .

[Ithaskar Fëarindel]

Since I'm from Lincolnshire I am not going to take sides with a Yorkist http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Although I myself don't see much point to a grudge, I do say the occasional "Damn Yorkies", and I know there are still many people who hold that grudge here (South Yorkshire vs. North East Lincolnshire.)

[BlackWatch McKenna]

Did not the first Black Adder deal with that time period?

The War of the Roses is a time period I am unfamiliar with (although I am familiar with the Battle of Bosworth).

~BW

[Hakonarson]

This (http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~conseal/history.htm) is a good overview of the war and there are also lots of sites for the individual battles http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Efrem Da King]

Thanks for the good link http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif .

[Red Peasant]

The original conflict really had very little to do with county/shire boundaries in a Lancashire and Yorkshire context, but it has crystallised into such over the ensuing centuries. It was basically a family, dynastic squabble. The Yorkies became very upset I think that something that carried their Yorkshire epithet was ultimately a failure. You see Yorkshire is the biggest English county so they think they are the biggest and best at everything.....and they ain't http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif