View Full Version : Plastic chemicals 'feminise boys'
Strike For The South
11-16-2009, 21:04
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8361863.stm
I blame liberals, women, and communists.
Not in that order. Women should probably get the most blame.
Sasaki Kojiro
11-16-2009, 21:08
Article is short on numbers.
Ja'chyra
11-16-2009, 21:08
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8361863.stm
I blame liberals, women, and communists.
Not in that order. Women should probably get the most blame.
I concur, bloody women
Vladimir
11-16-2009, 21:10
Is that why my nipples are so sensitive?
But no, I liked playing with GI Joes. The fact that they were naked doesn't mean anything...right? :sweatdrop:
More gay boys = Less population pressures
Megas Methuselah
11-16-2009, 21:33
I concur, bloody women
Yeah. We oughta put those women back in their place. :boxing:
HoreTore
11-16-2009, 21:36
More gay boys = Less population pressures
Not to mention; more women for the rest of us.
I say we should aim for around 98% gay males. That way, Angelina Jolie would be forced to beg the worlds fattest anti-social computernerd for some action.
Oh, teh sweetness...
Not to mention; more women for the rest of us.
I say we should aim for around 98% gay males. That way, Angelina Jolie would be forced to beg the worlds fattest anti-social computernerd for some action.
Oh, teh sweetness...
:laugh4:
Oh how the tables would be turned. :beam:
There is nothing wrong in males playing with "female toys" unless you are sexist.
If a male child wants to play with the kitchen set, why is that really a bad thing? All the top celebrity cooks are bascially all males anyway, are you trying to say they are all homosexual? Also, what is wrong with a male playing with barbie and ken and exploring relationships with the two dolls? Are they only meant to play with action men killing eachother?
It is more to do with social environment and attitudes than just because some one wanted PVC flooring.
Centurion1
11-16-2009, 23:30
i was always a big fan of my easy bake oven, though more because i like eating.........
it depends on the age of the child, how they are playing, how much of their time is spent with said toys, and how intent they are on playing with feminine toys
Gregoshi
11-17-2009, 00:11
Also, what is wrong with a male playing with barbie and ken and exploring relationships with the two dolls? Are they only meant to play with action men killing eachother?
Yes, we are meant to learn how to kill each other. Understanding the opposite sex is supposed to be a mystery to us. We can't jeopardize that by having young boys potentially learning about relationships (other than spotter, sniper, pointman, wingman, etc) via Ken and Barbie and applying that learning to their future girlfriends/wives.
We should be left thinking this of our future spouses: "If only she knew how to lay down a good covering fire...sigh." :clown:
What we perceive to be masculine and feminine toys are merely constructs of our culture to make children adapt to social norms. It's not as if colours can be gender specific, as for a long time, pink was a boy's colour (Due to it's "radical" nature), and blue (the colour of the Virgin Mary) was the colour of girls.
Are Barbies and Action Men really that different? Sorry Comic Book Guy, but they're both dolls, intended to simulate relationships and social situations, independent of whether they have a ponytail or a crew cut. The idea that trace amounts of some chemicals found in the manufacturing of plastics is turning boys into girls (Which is what this article, from the otherwise respectable BBC, implies) as some boys play with "girl's" toys is preposterous, and is bad science and bad journalism.
What we perceive to be masculine and feminine toys are merely constructs of our culture to make children adapt to social norms. It's not as if colours can be gender specific, as for a long time, pink was a boy's colour (Due to it's "radical" nature), and blue (the colour of the Virgin Mary) was the colour of girls.
Are Barbies and Action Men really that different? Sorry Comic Book Guy, but they're both dolls, intended to simulate relationships and social situations, independent of whether they have a ponytail or a crew cut. The idea that trace amounts of some chemicals found in the manufacturing of plastics is turning boys into girls (Which is what this article, from the otherwise respectable BBC, implies) as some boys play with "girl's" toys is preposterous, and is bad science and bad journalism.
Indeed, it used to be pink for boys and blue for girls. As blue was seem as virgin mary, an innocent and calm colour. :yes:
Looks like me and you are on the same page. It is bad science and bad journalism.
Sasaki Kojiro
11-17-2009, 01:56
There is nothing wrong in males playing with "female toys" unless you are sexist.
Yes well, why don't you take some estrogen pills then, like transexuals do? Nothing wrong with that, lets feed them to children.
It is more to do with social environment and attitudes than just because some one wanted PVC flooring.
The study was attempting to show a correlation between the plastics and the behavior. They didn't just say "well more boys are playing with dolls, must be this chemical". The article also doesn't post the percentage increase, which leads me to believe that it is 4.2 percent or something.
Yes well, why don't you take some estrogen pills then, like transexuals do? Nothing wrong with that, lets feed them to children.
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What does that have to do with anything? It is something completely different. A social construct is not the same as taking pills to grow breasts.
Hosakawa Tito
11-17-2009, 03:24
OMG, you don't think they use that stuff in :sweatdrop: beer can liners & twinkie wrappers, do you? suppresses the urge to slip into something more comfortable...
Major Robert Dump
11-17-2009, 03:26
The only way to ensure your child boy grows up manly is to only let him play with toys made of various animal scrotums
A Very Super Market
11-17-2009, 04:22
Just go Spartan. If worked out well enough for them. Make sure you cleanse the area of any Thebans though, they're trouble.
Samurai Waki
11-17-2009, 06:41
I have the sudden urge to go on a shopping spree, Dolce and Gabbana anyone?
The study was attempting to show a correlation between the plastics and the behavior. They didn't just say "well more boys are playing with dolls, must be this chemical". The article also doesn't post the percentage increase, which leads me to believe that it is 4.2 percent or something.
No, it actually said
Chemicals in plastics alter the brains of baby boys, making them "more feminine", say US researchers.
Which is even more direct than what you said.
I have the sudden urge to go on a shopping spree, Dolce and Gabbana anyone?
Oooh, packaging!
More gay boys = Less population pressures
Feminised boys and gay boys aren't the same thing.
This topic could go numerous different ways - but being the org it's all about teh gays :book:
The only way to ensure your child boy grows up manly is to only let him play with toys made of various animal scrotums
Which he, of course, needs to hunt and kill himself! :rifle:
FactionHeir
11-17-2009, 13:10
I suppose that means there's way too much plastic in Japan and Hong Kong? :grin:
So women should not eat plastic chemicals during pregnancy? What about plastic explosives? :inquisitive:
Unless they're having girls, and they want super-feminine girls.
Apparently, the one for us adult males to stay away from is BPA.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MensHealthNews/bpa-linked-sexual-dysfunction-men/story?id=9048200
While environmental groups have sounded the alarm about the presence of bisphenol-A, or BPA, in products such as infant formula, baby bottles and other plastics, a new study provides some of the first evidence that the chemical can be harmful to humans, linking it to sexual dysfunction in men in high doses.
I remember reading a while back about the high levels of estrogen/progestin in the water supply from birth control pills. Basically, men are all just turning into :daisy:.
The biggest threat is Soya, full of Phytoestrogen. Free Sex Change for Male Vegans.
HoreTore
11-17-2009, 16:47
Unless they're having girls, and they want super-feminine girls.
Oh gawd, just kill me now...
Well, it depends. Is the femininity purely psychological, or or we talking biological as well? :crowngrin:
Ugh, I sound like Meth
Ja'chyra
11-17-2009, 20:00
Yeah. We oughta put those women back in their place. :boxing:
The kitchen
Yours aren't already in there?
Ja'chyra
11-17-2009, 20:18
I made the mistake of buying her shoes and now she thinks she's allowed out.
A Very Super Market
11-18-2009, 22:12
Isn't this just a recent fad or something? It's been around in Japanese/Asian culture for a while too. Doesn't anyone remember the '80s?
Strike For The South
11-19-2009, 07:32
I made the mistake of buying her shoes and now she thinks she's allowed out.
You need to post more often.
Apparently, the one for us adult males to stay away from is BPA.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MensHealthNews/bpa-linked-sexual-dysfunction-men/story?id=9048200
I remember reading a while back about the high levels of estrogen/progestin in the water supply from birth control pills. Basically, men are all just turning into :daisy:.
"There has been no human studies, at least in the context of the male reproductive system, so this has been dismissed by some critics," he said of the potential harms BPA may pose.Like me. :yes:
I so hate stories like these. The inference they're trying to make is when exposed to substance A in massive amounts, it causes health problems. Therefore, when people are exposed to trace amounts, it must also be harmful. Clearly this must be the case... I mean if u drink too much water, it will poison you. Therefore, any exposure to it is bad. :dizzy2:
I'm convinced BPA hysteria is just the latest in the anti-chemical fad.....
Sooo relevant (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjL9g3s6Fro)
A Terribly Harmful Name
11-21-2009, 22:05
Apparently the issue is doublefold:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-03-01/news/out-of-breath-the-dangers-of-diesel-fumes/
But these figures just scratch the surface, apparently. Research has found, according to some experts, that diesel fumes degrade the immune system and interfere with hormones, reducing sperm production, masculinizing female rats, and changing the development of baby rats.
Though the issue of decling sperm count and feminization has received more attention, and carries more risk.
EDIT - Here's a more detailed summary: http://www.ehponline.org/docs/2001/109p111-119watanabe/abstract.html
Our study provides evidence for the first time that inhalation of diesel exhaust during pregnancy masculinizes fetuses through accumulation of testosterone in mother rats. These experiments also showed that the elevated testosterone levels did not result from accelerated maternal adrenal functions. The feto-placental-ovarian unit and the inhibition of aromatase activities and synthesis caused by inhalation might have played essential roles in the accumulation of testosterone.
Aemilius Paulus
11-21-2009, 22:40
I'm convinced BPA hysteria is just the latest in the anti-chemical fad.....
Yeah, same here. They will eventually get around banning everything. Meanwhile, let us poison those hippies with hemlock, handing it to them, saying 'drink this - it is natural; an herb'...
Snake Venom is natural
And so is oil.
KukriKhan
11-22-2009, 15:57
Apparently the issue is doublefold:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-03-01/news/out-of-breath-the-dangers-of-diesel-fumes/
Though the issue of decling sperm count and feminization has received more attention, and carries more risk.
EDIT - Here's a more detailed summary: http://www.ehponline.org/docs/2001/109p111-119watanabe/abstract.html
So, if I ever feel the urge to try on the missus' stockings and shoes, I should go suck on a Mercedes tailpipe, to get well - to restore the ying-yang balance.
Brilliant.
Vladimir
11-23-2009, 15:40
Snake Venom is natural
And so is oil.
And snake oil is only $9.99. Send me a PM.
So, if I ever feel the urge to try on the missus' stockings and shoes, I should go suck on a Mercedes tailpipe, to get well - to restore the ying-yang balance.
Brilliant.
No, I think the article is saying that if you want a masculine child, your pregnant wife should be the one sucking down the diesel fumes. :idea2:
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