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Jon von
02-28-2003, 17:13
Had trebisond archers, byz cavalry, bulgarian brigands composite bows? Or was it an exlusive right of muslim and steppe archers / horse archers?

Rosacrux
02-28-2003, 19:46
Of course they had composite bows. At least the minor Asia archers (the Treb archs are portrayed by those) had.

BlackWatch McKenna
02-28-2003, 20:15
What a journey.......

Leo the Wise (866 - 912)...
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/s014/f121079.htm

...writes about the Hungarians having Composite bows.
http://www2.4dcomm.com/millenia/Weapons.htm

So if these guys faced them, and the Seljuk Turks had them, I would presume that the Byzies would have tried to HIRE guys who used them as mercenaries. Since they had the cash, there is no reason to think that they would not have had access to them for their armies.

Anyone find anything that is more on point?

~BW

Those Hungarians sure were nutty warriors The second link credits the Hungarians with developing the Sabre (Hungarian for "cut" or "shrear" being "Sab"). Also of note, the word Hussar - which is equivalent to Light Cavalry, comes from the Hungarian word for 20).

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1st Guy: "Dude, its like a bunch of horse men"
2nd Guy: "Yah, a whole Hussar of them"
1st Guy: "Run - it's the HUSSARS"
2nd Guy: ::::: arrow in his eye...dies::::
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Well - you get the picture.

Rosacrux
03-01-2003, 06:58
There is an enormous dispute about wether the word hussar derives from Hungarian, Serbian or Greek.

The "20" is one explaination (Hungarian)

Another is that it derives from the Serbian Gus-Gusar (I don't remember the exact meaning of the word).

A third is that it derives from the word "Hosarii", a Greek words which means "ambushers" and describes a light cavalry type of Byzantine troops (from 8th century AD) who served as border patrol and militia. Those were recruited from the Balkan provinces of the empire (mainly Greece-Serbia).

There is an even older Roman term, but I can't remember it right now...