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KukriKhan
11-26-2009, 04:07
I'm 59 in a month. Four years past Dad, 10 years past Grandpa. Twenty years past Jerimiah C., the guy who braved the seas to come to the new world from Cork County, Ireland.

The stats are against me: smoker, beer-drinker, 40 pounds heavier than I was 20 years ago.

Two questions:

1: Should I try to change my lifestyle (smokin', drinkin') at this late stage? To try to last longer?

2: What should I do to protect my family against my loss?

Real input, please. Condolences appreciated but not required. I ain't dead yet. I wonder what advice backroomers have for an old guy.

"Just Die" will be OK from the TB Tavern crowd. :)

Louis VI the Fat
11-26-2009, 04:12
**** you just gave me a heartattack. I saw the title and thought you were announcing you had cancer or some such and came to say goodbye.


Erm, it's never too late to change bad habits.

CrossLOPER
11-26-2009, 04:12
1. Unless you want to maintain your current chances of dying, yes.

2. Life insurance, will...

Dude I'm 21.

pevergreen
11-26-2009, 04:14
I could quote my favourite line about death from futurama?

If you enjoy drinking and smoking, don't stop. I personally don't think stopping now would give you extra time.

Maybe start putting aside for the funeral, plan it out, update the will and so forth.

59 is still young. I work with a man who is mid sixties, smoker, drinker etc. Big heavy man too. He still works...somehow.

You'll be right, you got another 20 years left in you yet, soldier.

:bow:

Major Robert Dump
11-26-2009, 04:21
I know quite a few men at your age who have kept their "secret" of being in poor physical condition and lived their life as normal, then when they suddenly die of daibetes or cancer and when everyone finds out why, the doctor says "I told the dude 5 years ago he was dying and he made his choices." I can only assume they kept the "secret" to protect their family from financial and emotional distress.

You are the age of my father. At my father's rate, he will outlive me. So unless you know of some underlying health issue that will bankrupt your family fi treated and probably end in death anyway, I say change your lifestyle. It may save you money, and at the least it will give you a new hobby.

I think a few extra, painless years to watch the world unfold is worth the lifestyle change. That being said, though, were I to find out I had inoperable or overly expensice medicle issues, I would let nature takes its course and when things got too painful put a bullet through my heart. I am not being crass, this is something I have thought long and hard over as the men in my family have a long history of old-age long term inllness which broke the kids, and my work as an EMT pretty much reinforced my beliefs when I saw multiple aspects of the situation.

I will not end up in a nursing home, and I will not end up having people mourn over my deterioration. While I understand this may be in conflict with what the mdedical industry, the drug companies and Christians believe, it is better to burn out than fade away.

That being said, shame on your post title, you scared me to death

Crazed Rabbit
11-26-2009, 04:39
You worried me, Kukri.

My Grandmother, still alive and in her late 70s, has smoked for over 50 years. So you can live quite a while even with 'bad' habits.

But why not consider stopping the drinking and smoking and spending the money on something new? Seems to me there's no reason we ought to stop experiencing new stuff just because we get advanced in years. It doesn't have to be a chore to quit doing one thing; it can be a way to experience different things.

My dad started running after I joined the high school cross country team. He was in his fifties and had never really 'run' outside of playing soccer years ago.

But it became a new hobby, and this spring he ran in the Boston Marathon.

CR

KukriKhan
11-26-2009, 04:56
Sorry, fellas (esp Louis). I didn't mean to scare. Pushing 60, one gets to wondering, and appreciating, the finer things in LIFE.

I wondered if my fellow backroomers had thoughts about end-of-life issues, we here being more accustomed to (alive) directing the deaths of others - if merely digitally.

seireikhaan
11-26-2009, 05:02
Good grief, this sorta thread alarms me.

My dad is 59, smoked a pipe for years before he developed a reaction to smoke, is overweight, and has diabetes. Plus, he works his arse off, doing many more hours than most to earn his income. Kukri, you in many ways mirror him. This sort of idea frankly frightens me. However, I don't think its too late, never too late.

1) On smoking- its never too late to quit. I know in Iowa, smoking taxes are quite prohibitive, and make the habit even more of a burden. In Cali, I wouldn't be surprised if it was even more so. Quitting would be a boon to the wallet as well as health, if you could manage it.

2) On drinking- if you lessen it a bit, its, again, a boon to the wallet as well as health. Not advocating quitting, of course- a bit of alcohol here and there is shown to be at least neutral, if not beneficial to health.

3) The AVERAGE age of life in the US is around 76 for males. AVERAGE. I don't think, Kukri, you qualify as definitively worse than average. Bearing in mind, the average age takes into account people born into bad 'hoods who die early to senseless violence and those that pay ultimate sacrifice abroad in service to the country. Actual age, taking out early death from violence and war, is probably a touch higher, even.

4) So no, in summary, its NOT too early to change habits. Especially smoking. It does no good to you, financially or physically. My mother quit at the age of 56, and she's a pansy. :wink: I'm sure you can do the same. Drinking can be lessened, of course, but no need for prohibition, certainly. As for protecting your family, the best thing I can think of is- make sure they know that anything can happen. Life insurance, regardless of likelyhood, is good as well, of course, assuming the premiums aren't burdensome. Emotionally, I think you know them better than any of us possibly could- go with the gut.

To echo the other posters, shame, Kukri! You had me very worried.

SwordsMaster
11-26-2009, 05:04
See, Kukri, things go right until they go wrong. My grandfather smoked for 45 years, gave up for 10, then was diagnosed with cancer.

I would say you should definitely try to get rid of the extra weight, it's not good for your heart, and it seems your heart is already dealing with enough pressure, switch your drinking to wine instead of spirits or beer (half a bottle a day will help your digestion, ask Louis), and try to cut down on the smoking if you can.

Generally, life expectancy in the US is around 75 years for white males, so you should still have a few years of statistical home advantage.

There is no need of giving up things you enjoy, but can you really 'enjoy' smoking 2 packs a day? I switched to cigars a long time ago, and find that I smoke much less, maybe a cigar every couple of weeks where I used to smoke 2 packs in 3 days, firstly because they're more expensive, and secondly, because I enjoy the ritual of smoking them and don't want to give a few hurried puffs during my coffee break...

Perhaps what you should also consider is a dietary modification. More fruits and veggies, and chicken and fish instead of pork. I made it a rule to eat less pork, and everytime I do I must run 3k. I enjoy my irish breakfasts, but that means a 3k sweat after.

As far as caring for the family, write down a will. A common mistake is to leave no specification as to what to do with our property if it is rejected or unable to be passed to the one person you have willed it to, so cover those eventualities, also cover medical situations (resuscitation, decision making in case you're unable to, etc), and feel free to impose any conditions you wish upon the receipt of the benefits. Like your granddaughter will only get your car if she graduates with honours, or is married before 19, or can drink a full bottle of scotch in half an hour. No reason you can't have a last chuckle.

Vuk
11-26-2009, 05:05
Well, I am only 20 (21 this Christmas :beam:), so I may not be able to appreciate your situation. I like to think that when I am 60 though I will just want to keep living life as normal, while struggling to live better as I have through my life. I would not go worrying about dying though, you may still have 20 or more years ahead of you.

Vladimir
11-26-2009, 05:08
That reminds me of a trick my dad pulled once. First he tells my brother "I'm dying" and my brother reacted the same way as most people in this thread. When he told me, I responded with "We all are." He wasn't serious, but I was.

I won't quote Braveheart but there is a line which makes sense. Live while you're alive. Don't assume you'll die in a certain age range. Keep moving forward and enjoy it.

Sasaki Kojiro
11-26-2009, 05:08
I would just try to smoke a little less, drink a little less, eat a little healthier, and get a bit more exercise. Then see how it goes from there.

My grandfather played 18 holes of a golf every sunday and was pretty spry at 95.

A Very Super Market
11-26-2009, 05:22
Well..... It's all random.

Both my grandfathers, chain smokers. Both lived at some point in their lives in post-war China. One was a rich customs official, one was a coal miner, soldier, farmer, and labourer. Both died in their early 60s of lung cancer.

But my great-grandfather, who lived in even worse conditions, only died a year ago, at 89. So who knows, really. If you believe that you are harming yourself, that your habits are detrimental, then try and stop. If you don't mind, then you have no reason too.

I've no understanding of your situation, at the spry age of 15. Death is an entirely alien concept to me. I wasn't there to see my relatives go, no pets to send off to the farm. So I guess I figure that if you think it was worth it, then it probably was.

Samurai Waki
11-26-2009, 05:24
Well if it makes you feel any better, my Great G-Ma lived to the ripe old age of 102. Smoker since she was 16, drinker until at least her 80s, and a tad overweight. Three time cancer survivor (and this was back in the 30's when she was first diagnosed) don't ask me how she managed to live as long as she did, because I know her physician is probably still scratching his head. Your checkout ticket comes when it comes; especially when you get into your 60s. My dad, one of the healthiest, toughest men I knew, he could out-bench me and half the team when he coached the Linemen; died without cause or reason at 58... (Officially his heart went out on him, but he never had a history of heart related problems, and his last checkup which was only like three months before said his heart was perfectly healthy).

If it would make you feel better about your situation, I'd say quit the smoking. But it shouldn't have any bearing on whether or not you think you'll live longer because of it, you should do it because you want to, a Doctor ain't gonna make you quit.

ICantSpellDawg
11-26-2009, 05:31
Sorry, fellas (esp Louis). I didn't mean to scare. Pushing 60, one gets to wondering, and appreciating, the finer things in LIFE.

I wondered if my fellow backroomers had thoughts about end-of-life issues, we here being more accustomed to (alive) directing the deaths of others - if merely digitally.

Spend time with your kids and be nicer to your wife. Build things and don't work too hard while at work.

You are on borrowed time. Just don't feel like you are missing out, you could have been dead 10 or 20 years ago, but because of modern circumstance you are still here to get better at the stuff you like to do and share your experiences with others.

Just remember, anything you don't get to do in your prime you will be able to do by playing video games when you are too old to move around.

I've thought about death quite a bit, but I'm still here and I'm just tryng to take it easier. No rush to do anything in particular, try not to stress about life passing me by, just trying to enjoy it.

Papewaio
11-26-2009, 06:20
Write a bucket list. Then go for it.

Spend time with the grandkids.
They are the payoff for all the hardwork of a lifetime.
Think long term (http://www.longnow.org/). It helps to put things into perspective I find.
Play more of your favourite games.
Visit the real sites of the TW battles.
Get healthy, can't reverse age, but you can make it nicer to yourself.

My granddad broke his leg at 72 skiing Whistler. Went on to his early eighties, had a hard life and was a hard drinker. Not the nicest person in the world, but he did grab life by the throat.

Megas Methuselah
11-26-2009, 08:30
I'm 59 in a month. Four years past Dad, 10 years past Grandpa. Twenty years past Jerimiah C., the guy who braved the seas to come to the new world from Cork County, Ireland.

The stats are against me: smoker, beer-drinker, 40 pounds heavier than I was 20 years ago.

Two questions:

1: Should I try to change my lifestyle (smokin', drinkin') at this late stage? To try to last longer?

2: What should I do to protect my family against my loss?

Real input, please. Condolences appreciated but not required. I ain't dead yet. I wonder what advice backroomers have for an old guy.

"Just Die" will be OK from the TB Tavern crowd. :)

Lucius Cornelius Sulla was never given the chance to prove himself until he was 50, whereafter he went on to make history. You're 59? So what? You can still pack a good 30 years on your life. Spend time with and love your grandchildren, tell them your mistakes in life, write your memoirs, and be the best family man that you can be. In all honesty, enjoy life and leave your mark in the world, just as you would at any other age.

Whacker
11-26-2009, 08:57
Add yet another "Dammit you scared me!" to the list. :whip:

I'd say three things.

First, write a bucket list, and get on it.

Second, listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imsm-jIjVio , and then follow the advice. I turned 30 this year, ended up hearing that randomly at one point and thought it made a lot of sense. I'd submit the same applies to you, look forward to another 30 years. Drink a bit more lemonade and not as much beer. Forgive old grudges. Maybe call some old friends you haven't talked to in years/decades. Go about your life and treat others how you'd want to be treated, to the best of your ability.

Third, find out what your family thinks about you aging. Discuss it openly with them sometime. I've already made it very, very clear to both my parents that it will cause serious, painful rifts if they hide things from me, especially about their health or well-being. I think my sister thinks the same way. This is one area that for me, not knowing would be far, far more painful that knowing and dealing with some of the stress. So... consider talking it over with them, rather than just making the decision yourself. It IS your life, but you mean the world to your family, and remember that being family doesn't always require one to share the same blood.

Edit - Someone change the damn topic to something far less alarming already.

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
11-26-2009, 09:50
I'm 59 in a month. Four years past Dad, 10 years past Grandpa. Twenty years past Jerimiah C., the guy who braved the seas to come to the new world from Cork County, Ireland.

The stats are against me: smoker, beer-drinker, 40 pounds heavier than I was 20 years ago.

Two questions:

1: Should I try to change my lifestyle (smokin', drinkin') at this late stage? To try to last longer?

2: What should I do to protect my family against my loss?

Real input, please. Condolences appreciated but not required. I ain't dead yet. I wonder what advice backroomers have for an old guy.

"Just Die" will be OK from the TB Tavern crowd. :)

My father is nearly your age, but he quit smoking when I was 2 (21 years ago) and he went on a health kick in his 40's, which was the age Grandfather died at.

On the other hand, one of my officers when I was a cadet has a history in his family of dieing of massive sudden heart attacks at the age of 46, regardless of lifestyle. He has his at 48 and survived.

So, I don't know.

Andres
11-26-2009, 10:12
I'm 59 in a month. Four years past Dad, 10 years past Grandpa. Twenty years past Jerimiah C., the guy who braved the seas to come to the new world from Cork County, Ireland.

The stats are against me: smoker, beer-drinker, 40 pounds heavier than I was 20 years ago.

Two questions:

1: Should I try to change my lifestyle (smokin', drinkin') at this late stage? To try to last longer?

2: What should I do to protect my family against my loss?

Real input, please. Condolences appreciated but not required. I ain't dead yet. I wonder what advice backroomers have for an old guy.

"Just Die" will be OK from the TB Tavern crowd. :)

You scared the :daisy: out of me. One more thread like this and it will be my death that's being announced here ~:angry:

For point 2: : I don't want to sound harsh, but I think you should have done that already. If you didn't, then it's probably too late. A 60 yr old smoker and drinker with overweight won't get decent conditions for a life insurance.

Point 1: : I'm not a doctor, but if you have been smoking up til now, you already have done a lot of damage. Maybe you'll live a bit longer by quitting, it certainly wouldn't harm, I'm just wondering if it's worth the trouble at your age. If you're lucky, you are like one of my grandfathers, who smoked and drank heavily and died at the age of 89. If you're less lucky, you live as healthy as humanly possible and die at the age of 59-12, like my wifes' mother.

I would start to take it easy on the work department of your life. If you're working full time now and if it's financially doable, go for part-time and use the extra free time to do the things you like or the things you always wanted to do.

You're still in a decent condition now, I assume, so if you want to travel to a certain place, it's probably now or never. Or just use the extra free time to spend more time with your wife, children, grandchildren, friends (read: with us here at the Org ~:) ), playing games, enjoy a cup of coffee on a sunny morning and just keep sitting in your chair, reading the newspaper or a book until lunch time, etc.

Furunculus
11-26-2009, 10:19
I know quite a few men at your age who have kept their "secret" of being in poor physical condition and lived their life as normal, then when they suddenly die of daibetes or cancer and when everyone finds out why, the doctor says "I told the dude 5 years ago he was dying and he made his choices." I can only assume they kept the "secret" to protect their family from financial and emotional distress.

You are the age of my father. At my father's rate, he will outlive me. So unless you know of some underlying health issue that will bankrupt your family fi treated and probably end in death anyway, I say change your lifestyle. It may save you money, and at the least it will give you a new hobby.

I think a few extra, painless years to watch the world unfold is worth the lifestyle change. That being said, though, were I to find out I had inoperable or overly expensice medicle issues, I would let nature takes its course and when things got too painful put a bullet through my heart. I am not being crass, this is something I have thought long and hard over as the men in my family have a long history of old-age long term inllness which broke the kids, and my work as an EMT pretty much reinforced my beliefs when I saw multiple aspects of the situation.

I will not end up in a nursing home, and I will not end up having people mourn over my deterioration. While I understand this may be in conflict with what the mdedical industry, the drug companies and Christians believe, it is better to burn out than fade away.

That being said, shame on your post title, you scared me to death

agreed with MRD.

Fragony
11-26-2009, 11:27
Scared the crap out of me for a moment

edit, hmmm that wasn't very original.

Subotan
11-26-2009, 11:35
Keep doing stuff. Continue working, volunteer at a charity shop etc. Worst thing you could do would be to sit at home with pipe/slippers/newspaper, waiting for the grandchildren to come around and occasionally popping out to the post office for some milk.

InsaneApache
11-26-2009, 11:43
Well mate, what to say? Remember that day you looked in the mirror and suddenly realised that you are going to die! After my heart attack last year I did an awful lot of reflecting. An awful lot. It's funny isn't it that as you get older you find more reasons to want to live. Grandkids etc, etc.

By all means stop smoking, cut down on the pop, eat more healty foods but never forget that it's quality, not quantity of life that counts. After all, we all got to die of summat.

On the smoking malaky, my great uncle died about a decade ago. He'd smoked since he left school, at 14, he smoked when being dive bombed at Dunkirk, he smoked when he was sent off to Mesopotamia to quell the rebellion there. He smoked in the western desert fighting Rommel. He even smoked in the soggy Italian campaign. No, what did for him was being persuaded to stop smoking at age 94. It made him miserable. Like he said, he'd smoked for 80 years and he missed it. He died four months later. I'm convinced that stopping killed him as it made him depressed and sad.

There's a moral there if you care to look for it.

pevergreen
11-26-2009, 11:47
Come to Australia.

Everything will be better after a holiday. :yes:

Furunculus
11-26-2009, 11:51
Well mate, what to say? Remember that day you looked in the mirror and suddenly realised that you are going to die! After my heart attack last year I did an awful lot of reflecting. An awful lot. It's funny isn't it that as you get older you find more reasons to want to live. Grandkids etc, etc.

By all means stop smoking, cut down on the pop, eat more healty foods but never forget that it's quality, not quantity of life that counts. After all, we all got to die of summat.

On the smoking malaky, my great uncle died about a decade ago. He'd smoked since he left school, at 14, he smoked when being dive bombed at Dunkirk, he smoked when he was sent off to Mesopotamia to quell the rebellion there. He smoked in the western desert fighting Rommel. He even smoked in the soggy Italian campaign. No, what did for him was being persuaded to stop smoking at age 94. It made him miserable. Like he said, he'd smoked for 80 years and he missed it. He died four months later. I'm convinced that stopping killed him as it made him depressed and sad.

There's a moral there if you care to look for it.

agreed, my granddad hit eighty six before he bought the farm, and that was with a similar smoking history.

Pannonian
11-26-2009, 13:27
You scared the :daisy: out of me. One more thread like this and it will be my death that's being announced here ~:angry:

It's not a nice thing to read considering that someone I chatted with just a few weeks back had passed away the next I heard of him. And I only knew of it when I wanted to resume the most recent wall conversation I had, popped over to his profile, and saw the news there.

Fragony
11-26-2009, 14:43
It's not a nice thing to read considering that someone I chatted with just a few weeks back had passed away the next I heard of him. And I only knew of it when I wanted to resume the most recent wall conversation I had, popped over to his profile, and saw the news there.

What?

Fragony
11-26-2009, 14:55
doublepost,don't know how.

KukriKhan
11-26-2009, 15:33
Thanks, everybody, for taking the topic seriously and offering your honest thoughts. Some great ideas have been put forth, and you've all given me plenty to think about.

Moderators: feel free to change the topic title to something gentler - I never imagined it would alarm my friends here as much as it reportedly has.

The Life Insurance thingee is covered, I think, while I work. I pay extra for a 5-years' salary option (wifey gets my annual average salary x5). That should pay off the mortgage and bills. I haven't written a will yet, but I'll get on that next week.

Twenty years ago I was in great shape, even though I smoked three packs a day, and beer consumption was about same as today.

Now I don't finish 1 pack of Marlboro's per day, but that's mostly because smoking is an outdoor sport in California generally, and in Mrs. Kukri's house specifically. I find I can go longer and longer in-between light-ups, without too much craving. Maybe I'll just get bored with it some day. :)

I guess the most important thing I take away from this discussion is: realizing that other people dieing around me, near my age - though alarming - is no accurate predictor of my own death.

It's funny: at 20, newly drafted into a wartime army, I gave away all my earthly possessions and told my friends "goodbye", knowing, just KNOWING I was gonna go to a bad place, do bad things and die within 2 years.

At 40, still breathing, out of the military, I concluded "yes, but not just yet."

Now, approaching 60, rl friends and family passing away at an alarming rate, I wonder again. But you fellas are right: no man knows his hour. Who do I think I am, wanting to predict mine?

Happy Thanksgiving, my friends. I give sincere thanks for your warm companionship. That (friendship) grows more important to me daily.

Pannonian
11-26-2009, 15:41
Well mate, what to say? Remember that day you looked in the mirror and suddenly realised that you are going to die! After my heart attack last year I did an awful lot of reflecting.
The day you look in a mirror and you don't reflect is the day you start worrying. Or at least the day you realise the mirror needs a clean.

FactionHeir
11-26-2009, 15:46
Kukri: It's never too late to change your lifestyle for the better. It takes a lot of effort especially if you've been practicing it for a long while, but I'm sure you'll manage :wink:

Yes, some effects of your previous lifestyle may be unavoidable, but overall you can drastically cut the chances of an "adverse event" given time. Studies for instance show that cessation for 10+ years can reduce your risk close to the level of a non-smoker for instance.

Gregoshi
11-26-2009, 16:07
I'm glad I'm not the only one whose heart did a flip-flop after reading the thread title. :fainting:

Since I'm a young whippersnapper, I'll refrain from dispensing useless advice to the old and decrepit. :laugh4:

Hang in there Kukri. You are wise and will determine the best course for you. :bow:

Ironside
11-26-2009, 16:34
Kukri: How have your family members died? Because it's often a tip on what's to avoid.

For example, on my father's line there's plenty of cases with lung cancer (and heavy smokers), if pleanty of heart attacks focus on losing weight/training less alchohol.

I take it's your family's young age that is haunting you a bit, my parents are in the same age (they had children very late) and is certainly not thinking about their deaths yet. Most people in this age will have at least 10-20 years ahead of them.

And I agree with most people here on the title, good one if you got cancer or simular.

On a simular note, I've been thinking about the old veterans that disappears from time to time. Most of the time is simply breaks or moving on of course, but a sudden disappearence may also be that the forumer has actually passed on. A very distraughting thought for me, as not only has the member died, but there's also no real signs of it.

But such is the way of an internet forum I guess.


The day you look in a mirror and you don't reflect is the day you start worrying. Or at least the day you realise the mirror needs a clean.

At least the age problems are out of the question though, even if the cravings are probably a bit worse. And you can forget about that sun tan. That is if you still don't feel transluctent though, not much of a craving problem then.

Vuk
11-26-2009, 16:34
Just don't forget to put me in the will. ~;)

Banquo's Ghost
11-26-2009, 17:15
Thread title changed to something more hopeful. :wink:

Mortality is a tough one. I've whinged in PM to you Kukri, enough times to reveal I don't have any answers.

Aside from the great gifts you bring this place and I feel sure, to your family and friends, the impact we have on the world in the time given to us is both the most important facet of our lives, and the most elusive. How wonderful (or perhaps frightening) it would be to have an experience like George Bailey or Ebenezer Scrooge and actually see how our presence on earth had affected it and the people we have known. Whether in fact, it had been best if we hadn't troubled anyone at all.

Whatever, it is certainly not necessarily linked to length of years, but to enjoyment of that time. To bring joy to others, one has to be happy oneself.

There's no point me advising to give this or that up, because you're no fool and know what is likely to be good and bad for your health. But it is certainly true that avoidance of those things that are "bad" can make for a miserable life. My grandfather used to counsel that all things should be taken in moderation. For him, that included wonderful experiences as well as health hazards. But then he'd seen a lot of friends die young.

Cherish the time you have and share that wonderful, wise person that you are. When we're rocking on the porch in thirty years' time, shaking our knarled sticks at passing kids and bemoaning how lax young moderators are these days, it'd never happen in our day; I'll remind you of this thread.

In fact, old chap: Be well. Do good. Keep in touch. Some clever fella had that as a sig, I do recall.

CrossLOPER
11-26-2009, 17:40
Am I the only one who didn't assume Kukri was in a terminal condition? I thought I was a bit of pessimist...

Strike For The South
11-26-2009, 18:17
Spend time with you grandchildren and smile.

Nothing more, nothing less

Death is waiting at the end of the road for us all. If you stare ahead at it you're going to miss the road.

Whacker
11-26-2009, 20:11
Death is waiting at the end of the road for us all. If you stare ahead at it you're going to miss the road.

This. Life is a journey, not a destination.

Subotan
11-26-2009, 22:40
Am I the only one who didn't assume Kukri was in a terminal condition? I thought I was a bit of pessimist...

I didn't either. If someone was going to announce their death on the Org, they'd have a different kind of thread title, that wasn't so blunt.

Vladimir
11-27-2009, 14:02
When I read the new thread title I immediately knew which moderator changed it. :2thumbsup:

Hosakawa Tito
11-28-2009, 00:21
I can sympathize with that feeling of one's own mortality. Lately, it seems like a year doesn't go by that my circle of family & friends shrinks a bit more. I figure that while I'm still relatively healthy it's time to control the things that I can. There are no guarantees, and that's okay. How boring life would be if our lives went by some scripted plan. Where would our wisdom, patience or hope come from? Most of what a life contains comes to us unexpectedly, the good and the bad that shapes our lives. It's up to each of us to give it meaning.

Papewaio
11-29-2009, 22:52
We are at the start of a longevity revolution.

Compare Raquel Welch and Whistlers mother both age 67:
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_02/RaquelSCOPE1402_468x663.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhistlersMother.jpeg

Now tell me that age 67 means the same thing as it did a century ago...

Subotan
11-30-2009, 01:41
Yes, plastic does age slower than human flesh.

Gregoshi
11-30-2009, 04:21
Yes, plastic does age slower than human flesh.
Then you'll just have to grade Raquel on a curve... :eyebrows:

ajaxfetish
11-30-2009, 06:54
I would recommend against the drinking and smoking, and encourage you to be careful in your diet and exercise, but at the same time I think it's more important to live happily than to live long. You'll have to decide how important they are to you, and whether it's worth giving them up for some extra time.

As for looking out for your family, I think the most important thing would be to make sure you have a well-planned living will. As you say, you should be getting on that very soon. Find a well-recommended lawyer to make sure it will minimize the inconvenience and losses due to death taxes during what will already be a very difficult time for your family.

I hope this doesn't come across as morbid, but one other practical suggestion I might make is planning your funeral. My parents already have their plot chosen, and their funeral planned and payed for with a local mortuary. When their time comes (and I expect it to be many years yet), we their kids won't have to worry about the costs of funeral and burial and we'll know they're getting what they wanted (I think some of my dad's greatest worries are to have his hard-earned money spent keeping his body alive after its time is up or putting it in a really nice box, instead of going to the people and causes he cares about).

Ajax