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Thermal
11-26-2009, 19:44
Who are you on facebook? I might even add you :balloon2: :2thumbsup:

Mine is : Danny Quarterman

btw :sweatdrop:

Lemur
11-26-2009, 19:51
I'm already friends with a couple of Orgahs on FB. If any of my regular sparring partners and/or secret lovers want to add me, just hit me with a PM. The Org is like my corner pub, so it's all good.

Hax
11-26-2009, 21:20
On the dawn of the fifth day, look to the Hax (http://www.facebook.com/tworgHax).

EDIT: But wait, there's more (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=73714109021)!

Subotan
11-26-2009, 23:11
I refuse to get Facebook, for various reasons. I don't have a Myspasm either :2thumbsup:

On a related note, Facebook was just banned today in my college :laugh4:

CountArach
11-26-2009, 23:35
People can PM me for a link to mine. I have a handful of Orgahs already, but I'm always happy to add more.

Azathoth
11-26-2009, 23:44
I'd rather not reveal my true name.

pevergreen
11-27-2009, 00:51
Greetings.

I fear not giving mine out, as I untagged myself from every photo of me.

facebook.com/pevergreen

Already have CA and Lemur. Had Mouza, but he was lost in my great purge of facebook. :shame:

Mouzafphaerre
11-27-2009, 03:16
.
Mouza's added you back. ~:pat:
.

Hooahguy
11-27-2009, 03:21
im friends with Cutewolf and Pez (used to come here, no longer does.)

Lemur
11-27-2009, 03:39
I'd rather not reveal my true name.
You mean you aren't really Azathoth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azathoth)? An "amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity—the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes."

I mean, it sounds like you.

There's even a film about you and your buddies (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOHJUrcVdJk).

Hax
11-27-2009, 03:51
[QUOTE]
i used to be friends with Che rohrino (or w/e his name is) and Hax, but i deleted them for personal reasons.[/QUPTE]

..what?

A Very Super Market
11-27-2009, 04:15
[QUOTE=Hax;2386800][QUOTE]
i used to be friends with Che rohrino (or w/e his name is) and Hax, but i deleted them for personal reasons.[/QUPTE]

..what?[/QUPTE]

I enjoy qupting.

I don't add anyone I don't know irl. :shrug:

Just a rule I've used for a while.

Cute Wolf
11-27-2009, 05:16
Yeah... I have handful of orgah members as friends in facebook! :laugh4: All hail Romaioktonoi! :smash: (most of them are Romaioktonoi comrades of course)

Raz
11-27-2009, 06:42
I'm working on getting Facebook... normally, I find myself about to sign up then I just can't be bothered. Will get it soon, though - I swear!! :beam:

Subotan
11-27-2009, 11:32
im friends with Cutewolf and Pez (used to come here, no longer does.)
i used to be friends with Che rohrino (or w/e his name is) and Hax, but i deleted them for personal reasons.


[QUOTE]
i used to be friends with Che rohrino (or w/e his name is) and Hax, but i deleted them for personal reasons.[/QUPTE]

..what?

Oh man, this is going to be fun

PershsNhpios
11-27-2009, 13:13
Hooahguy, what were the personal reasons for deleting Hax and Che Ronningno?

Hax
11-27-2009, 14:02
Probably something Israel related, which is not meant for this topic.

LeftEyeNine
11-27-2009, 15:25
LeftEyeNine (http://www.facebook.com/LeftEyeNine)

Feel free to add as well as letting me know your ID on The Org.

Azathoth
11-27-2009, 16:36
You mean you aren't really Azathoth? An "amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity—the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes."

I mean, it sounds like you.

There's even a film about you and your buddies.

You mean you aren't really Lemur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemur)? A "primate endemic to the island of Madagascar and smaller surrounding islands, such as the Comoros, where they were likely introduced by humans, which reached Madagascar after it broke away from mainland Africa, possibly by "rafting" across the ocean on large clumps of vegetation, as indicated by molecular genetics."

I mean, it sounds like you.

There's even a film about you and your buddies. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqbAlO0fZGw&feature=related)

Hooahguy
11-27-2009, 16:38
Probably something Israel related, which is not meant for this topic.
nothing related to israel. thats all im saying.

Ja'chyra
11-27-2009, 16:44
nothing related to israel. thats all im saying.

Oh the suspense:idea2:

Does it have anything to do with hamsters and jelly?

Lemur
11-27-2009, 16:47
You mean you aren't really Lemur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemur)? A "primate endemic to the island of Madagascar and smaller surrounding islands, such as the Comoros, where they were likely introduced by humans, which reached Madagascar after it broke away from mainland Africa, possibly by "rafting" across the ocean on large clumps of vegetation, as indicated by molecular genetics."

I mean, it sounds like you.

There's even a film about you and your buddies. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqbAlO0fZGw&feature=related)
Well played, sir, although I would have appreciated a little more of a twist on the original.

Hooahguy
11-27-2009, 17:44
Oh the suspense:idea2:

Does it have anything to do with hamsters and jelly?
i know all you would love to know, but here at the ORG when someone says something is private we need not press further.

Gregoshi
11-27-2009, 18:26
i know all you would love to know, but here at the ORG when someone says something is private we need not press further.
And it shouldn't have been mentioned in the first place. :no:

But hey! How 'bout that Facebook, eh? I didn't know the Org has a place there. Thanks Hax.

Gregoshi
11-27-2009, 18:28
Eh, how does one join TWorg? I click the "join" button but nothing happened.

Hooahguy
11-27-2009, 18:33
Eh, how does one join TWorg? I click the "join" button but nothing happened.
i just put in a request, i think thats whats the problem. also, there seems to be no admins.

Ja'chyra
11-27-2009, 18:46
i know all you would love to know, but here at the ORG when someone says something is private we need not press further.

Lol, I wasn't really prying, it was a joke.

I don't really care as its your business not mine, unless it did involve hamsters and jelly, then I'm intrigued

Hooahguy
11-27-2009, 18:50
um, no.
but it did have something to do with terrorist cows. :mad:

Ja'chyra
11-27-2009, 18:58
um, no.
but it did have something to do with terrorist cows. :mad:

terrorist cows with spaghetti and bon bons?

Hooahguy
11-27-2009, 19:10
no bon bons. just terrorist cows.

Ja'chyra
11-27-2009, 19:22
Hmm, boring

rajpoot
11-27-2009, 19:53
I kind of forgot my password months ago....haven't made a new account as yet.....

Ja'chyra
11-27-2009, 19:55
I do have a facebook account but only my Mrs uses it to give extra benefits on the games she plays

Gregoshi
11-27-2009, 20:19
no bon bons. just terrorist cows.
Curdish terrorist? I herd they were responsible for the udder devastation at Churnoble and they are trying to get their hooves on CUD missiles - apparently they have a beef against the people of Hamburg.

Ahem, anyway, TWorg now says "Awaiting membership confirmation". With no admins, I guess this ain't gonna happen.

Ja'chyra
11-27-2009, 21:06
Curdish terrorist? I herd they were responsible for the udder devastation at Churnoble and they are trying to get their hooves on CUD missiles - apparently they have a beef against the people of Hamburg.

Ahem, anyway, TWorg now says "Awaiting membership confirmation". With no admins, I guess this ain't gonna happen.

You should be ashamed of yourself:laugh4:

Quintus.JC
11-27-2009, 21:14
Curdish terrorist? I herd they were responsible for the udder devastation at Churnoble and they are trying to get their hooves on CUD missiles - apparently they have a beef against the people of Hamburg.

Ahem, anyway, TWorg now says "Awaiting membership confirmation". With no admins, I guess this ain't gonna happen.


how do you come up with these... :laugh4:

Gregoshi
11-27-2009, 21:45
You should be ashamed of yourself:laugh4:
I am. I was worried someone might have a cow over it. :shame:

Subotan
11-27-2009, 21:56
I feel a sense of pride in not having Facebook.

pevergreen
11-28-2009, 00:48
Curdish terrorist? I herd they were responsible for the udder devastation at Churnoble and they are trying to get their hooves on CUD missiles - apparently they have a beef against the people of Hamburg.

Ahem, anyway, TWorg now says "Awaiting membership confirmation". With no admins, I guess this ain't gonna happen.

2 admins in the group.

Hax and someone else, who I don't know the org username of.

Furunculus
11-28-2009, 00:58
I refuse to get Facebook, for various reasons. I don't have a Myspasm either :2thumbsup:



me too. i am one of only two friends remaining that still refuse to fazebook.

apparently stauch allies i the anti-fazebook clan has since jumped ship................ once they became single, and facebook became just another resource in the endless search for new p00n.

i shan't crumble!*










* as long as i remain attached

Thermal
11-28-2009, 02:16
I feel a sense of pride in not having Facebook.

What a strange thing to say... :whip:

Hax
11-28-2009, 02:25
Hax and someone else, who I don't know the org username of.

Spartakus is the other person.

Gregoshi
11-28-2009, 02:38
Well I went from a TWorg status of "Awaiting membership confirmation" back to "click to join". :wall:

Owen Glyndwr
11-28-2009, 05:11
I have a facebook.

Man, when I think about it, I've almost had the thing for 3 1/2 years now. Man how that site has changed....:juggle2:

PershsNhpios
11-28-2009, 07:12
I found Hooahguy's facebook page - and there are remnants of Hax still there.

Did you manage to replace the bad blood? Or are you still playing silly semitics?

*AHEM!* I meant semantics...

LeftEyeNine
11-28-2009, 12:00
I HERD U LIEK FAZEBOWKZ SO I PUT A FAZEBOWK INTO YER FAZEBOWK SO U CAN FAZEBOWK WHILE U FAZEBOWK.

MOAR OV YOU ADD MEY.

Cute Wolf
11-28-2009, 14:25
I HERD U LIEK FAZEBOWKZ SO I PUT A FAZEBOWK INTO YER FAZEBOWK SO U CAN FAZEBOWK WHILE U FAZEBOWK.

MOAR OV YOU ADD MEY.

Yeah yeah... I add you =p

CountArach
11-28-2009, 16:31
Curdish terrorist? I herd they were responsible for the udder devastation at Churnoble and they are trying to get their hooves on CUD missiles - apparently they have a beef against the people of Hamburg.
Oxcellent puns all around.

Subotan
11-28-2009, 20:20
me too. i am one of only two friends remaining that still refuse to fazebook.

apparently stauch allies i the anti-fazebook clan has since jumped ship................ once they became single, and facebook became just another resource in the endless search for new p00n.

i shan't crumble!
* as long as i remain attached
Keep fighting. The Good Fight.

What a strange thing to say... :whip:
I don't see the point of it. The internet should be about brining together people from all around the world, of different nationalities, viewpoints and origins. Facebook brings together people you have always been together with, so they all have the same nationalities, viewpoints and origins. Together with the fact that they sell your personal information to advertisers, I'm not interested.

Besides, within about a year, Facebook will have gone the way of Myspasm and be a burned out husk of the smart, intelligent idea it might have been, before it was ransacked by pretentious

I have a facebook.

Man, when I think about it, I've almost had the thing for 3 1/2 years now. Man how that site has changed....:juggle2:
I probably would have joined it when it was first around, when there were no, stupid adverts, stupid apps, stupid quizes, stupid games, stupid people, old people...I could go on.

Hooahguy
11-29-2009, 16:45
I found Hooahguy's facebook page - and there are remnants of Hax still there.

Did you manage to replace the bad blood? Or are you still playing silly semitics?

*AHEM!* I meant semantics...
huh?

LeftEyeNine
11-29-2009, 18:45
I kindly invite you to exchange PMs if you are inclined to delve into personal matters, so as to prevent any probable misunderstandings which eventually will lead to the inevitable havoc of Lemurly tails of justice.

:bow:

Prussian to the Iron
11-30-2009, 16:31
I refuse to get Facebook, for various reasons. I don't have a Myspasm either :2thumbsup:

On a related note, Facebook was just banned today in my college :laugh4:

im against that crap too.


i doubt that the ban will affect the overall access though :P

naut
11-30-2009, 16:57
It is useful for organising events and such. Yeh. Why not. So what if some stuff about me is on the internet. What anyone would want with who my mates are, what I look like and what country I live in --- I don't know. And anyway these are things that you could glean from me in standard conversation.

Lemur
11-30-2009, 17:18
The internet should be about brining together people from all around the world, of different nationalities, viewpoints and origins. Facebook brings together people you have always been together with, so they all have the same nationalities, viewpoints and origins.
FWIW, when you're an older dude like me, you tend to have friends all over the world. Some of my buds are downright vagrant, moving from job to job and country to country. Facebook is a godsend for keeping track of them.

Let's take one example at random -- the Modly family. Old, old friends of mine, who jumped from Chicago to Tunisia for six years. Now they're in Seoul, but often enough they're in Malaysia. They change email addys and phone numbers more often than you chage your socks. Pre-Facebook, keeping tabs on them was a nightmare. Now I can just check their family page to see their current contact info. This is convenient.

Likewise an old writer pal of mine, who drifts from city to city. I know he's now living in Georgia. How do I know this? 'Cause he updates his FB page. He'd be much too lazy to let everyone know where he is otherwise.

I know that FB has mutated in many ways, and has tons of games and spam and status BS, but here's the thing—the core functionality is still there, and nobody forces you to get involved in the trivialities and distractions. Moreover, the layout is forcibly clean, so you don't get room spins and headaches trying to get info from a page, as you did with MySpace.

It's a useful tool. If you let it become more than that, whose fault might that be? Facebook's? Or yours?

Subotan
11-30-2009, 18:16
True, but there's a pressure on users of Facebook to use it for more than keeping tabs on far away people; Facebook can't make money like that.

Strike For The South
11-30-2009, 20:40
I do and I have more friends than all of you.

I also have super sweet status updates.

Thermal
11-30-2009, 21:18
I do and I have more friends than all of you.

I also have super sweet status updates.

Oh your one of the people that has 2000 friends and only knows 20 of them? :grin:

Strike For The South
11-30-2009, 21:24
Oh your one of the people that has 2000 friends and only knows 20 of them? :grin:

I know every single one of my friends personaly (save 3 or 4 uni related things)

I meet you and I leave an impression.

Lemur
11-30-2009, 21:39
I meet you and I leave an impression.
More of a stain, really. Along the lines of, "I shook his hand and now I feel dirty."

Strike For The South
11-30-2009, 21:45
More of a stain, really. Along the lines of, "I shook his hand and now I feel dirty."

:smoking:

Thermal
11-30-2009, 21:47
I know every single one of my friends personaly (save 3 or 4 uni related things)

I meet you and I leave an impression.

lol :P

Husar
12-01-2009, 09:08
I also have super sweet status updates.
:yes:


I know every single one of my friends personaly (save 3 or 4 uni related things)
Do I count as an uni related thing then? :inquisitive:

And subotan, of course they earn money if people just look at it, that's what all the ads are for after all.

Subotan
12-01-2009, 10:06
The more people use it, the more money Facebook makes, so it makes sense for them to encourage you to use it as much as possible, meaning that they want you to use it for more than just keeping tabs on far away people.

Strike For The South
12-01-2009, 16:38
:yes:


Do I count as an uni related thing then? :inquisitive:

And subotan, of course they earn money if people just look at it, that's what all the ads are for after all.


OK you and spartakus. But I "know" you in the sense that I knew who you were when I click confirm. Some people just add or confirm randoms.

Husar
12-01-2009, 21:08
The more people use it, the more money Facebook makes, so it makes sense for them to encourage you to use it as much as possible, meaning that they want you to use it for more than just keeping tabs on far away people.
Well, that goes for most webpages.


OK you and spartakus. But I "know" you in the sense that I knew who you were when I click confirm. Some people just add or confirm randoms.
I've added a few randoms, so far they haven't hurt me.

Thermal
12-01-2009, 21:11
The more people use it, the more money Facebook makes, so it makes sense for them to encourage you to use it as much as possible, meaning that they want you to use it for more than just keeping tabs on far away people.

Theres no escaping the fact that facebook along with other social networking sites, are completely free to use, you aren't forced to, even if they want you to it never appears that they are out to take your money at every turn.

pevergreen
12-02-2009, 01:46
I've added a few randoms, so far they haven't hurt me.

You you've been facebook sleeping with CountArach in addition to your chat sleeping.

Its a dirty show, but I keep watching.

:smoking:

Lemur
12-05-2009, 15:03
I forgot to mention, you can have a lot of fun with people who contact you with whom you have no desire to link up. I was contacted this morning by a guy I barely remember from elementary school. I can't imagine why he's bothering. So I had some fun:


Hello XXXX! Sorry to bother you, but I recall a XXXX XXXX living here in Berea, Ky back in the late 70s or early 80s! We were friends in school, but he moved away and I haven't had any contact with him since then! Just curious if you might be the one! If not, I apologize again for bothering you! Thanks!

I'm very sorry to inform you that the XXXX XXXX you're thinking of was captured and cloned in a government lab, where he was used for medical experiments and forced organ donations. The vast majority of the cloned "XXXX XXXX" died horribly, screaming incoherent pain, since organs harvested from unanesthetized bodies are much more valuable. However, the 73rd clone escaped into the general population and attempted to start a normal life. That would be me.

I have carefully reconstructed the sort of life I imagine my clone-father would have had, using photographs and letters as my guide. Even though I am hunted by elite assassins from our government, I feel this is the most fitting tribute to the original me that I can make. I would be happy to be your friend, but be warned—once you're connected to me in any way, the black helicopters are likely to come for you as well. They'll think you're helping me, and take appropriate actions. You may very well wake up underground on a metal table with a circular saw grinding through your sternum.

If you're okay with that, sure, let's be friends!

Jolt
12-05-2009, 17:49
I forgot to mention, you can have a lot of fun with people who contact you with whom you have no desire to link up. I was contacted this morning by a guy I barely remember from elementary school. I can't imagine why he's bothering. So I had some fun:

Brilliant.

Ferret
12-06-2009, 01:30
:laugh4: did he respond?

Beefy187
12-06-2009, 02:04
Gold stuff Lemur :laugh4:

Lemur
12-06-2009, 03:19
:laugh4: did he respond?
Strangely enough, he did.

Haha! That sounds like the XXXX XXXX I remember! I hope all is well with you! Where are you now, and what are you up to? I'm still in Berea. I've been married for 22 years and have a daughter and 2 sons! I do all types of residential construction work. I also take several trips a year doing mission work!
Some people don't know how to take a hint.

Hax
12-06-2009, 03:33
Say you converted to Islam.

You'll receive no more responses, whatsoever.

pevergreen
12-06-2009, 07:35
Say you converted to Islam.

You'll receive no more responses, whatsoever.

BAM.

So true. :laugh4:

I was redirected while going to this thread...FF with adblock.

Cute Wolf
12-06-2009, 19:10
Say you converted to Islam.

You'll receive no more responses, whatsoever.

Actually, If I did that... I'll receive TONS of responeses hax.... :laugh4:
You see most of my friend's list are.... don't you....:clown:

coalition
12-14-2009, 16:26
Some amazing hotties in this thread so far :dizzy2:

Just kidding.

But if you really want to know mine, just ask me....I untagged all my photos and took down my profile picture so you are really not going too see the beautiful picture of myself.

But this is a great idea, I reckon all of us Org members should add each other, easier to organise events etc.

coalition
12-14-2009, 16:27
Oh and do any of you type properly when using Facebook? or do u typ lik dis?

I type properly, just incase of bad habits I s'pose.

Hooahguy
12-14-2009, 18:48
But this is a great idea, I reckon all of us Org members should add each other, easier to organise events etc.
what events? :inquisitive:

Ferret
12-14-2009, 19:00
you mean no one told you about them? :clown:

Rahwana
12-14-2009, 19:45
Say you converted to Islam.

You'll receive no more responses, whatsoever.

Said that you are now unconverted from Islam. And they will ask tons of questions...

Anyone want to add me? http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000541877376

Major Robert Dump
12-14-2009, 20:11
Ah yes.....Facebook, MySpace and other social networking sites, the downfall of the new generation of insurance scammers and bail jumpers. Why just the other day I had a "cripple" post pictures of herself running through the woods with a shotgun hunting deer, and she was even nice enough to leave the time stamp on.

It's amazing how easy it is to get onto someones friends list with a fake account of a hot guy and a hot girl. My dummy accounts are my pride and joy. My real account has no pic and no info, and I use it to keep up with a few peeps who I never get to see.

Thermal
12-14-2009, 20:51
Oh yes my thread is restored, so people actually look on page 2? :grin:

I haven't been on facebook recently, mainly because I don't have any interesting statuses to put up :no:

Rahwana
12-15-2009, 07:48
Oh yes my thread is restored, so people actually look on page 2? :grin:

I haven't been on facebook recently, mainly because I don't have any interesting statuses to put up :no:

want to get some really interesting status? set yourself as "in a relationship" with someone...... then watch your friend's comments....

pevergreen
12-15-2009, 08:12
Me and Beefy in a relationship got nothing! It was terrible. :cry:

Thermal
12-15-2009, 18:04
want to get some really interesting status? set yourself as "in a relationship" with someone...... then watch your friend's comments....

well the other party has to agree so its hard to do.

Statuses like saying you fancy your gran might attract attention, whilst ruining your reputation in the process, unluckily I'm not incestuous nor into old people.

Beefy187
12-16-2009, 07:12
Me and Beefy in a relationship got nothing! It was terrible. :cry:

Now less people talk to me on facebook :laugh4:

Hax
12-16-2009, 15:06
"Hmm, I wonder how Beefy is doing. I guess I better check his Face -- HOLY &#*$"

Thermal
12-16-2009, 20:43
"Hmm, I wonder how Beefy is doing. I guess I better check his Face -- HOLY SHI-"

:laugh4:

pevergreen
12-16-2009, 23:40
Hey! I'm not that bad. :laugh4:

Oh wow, you're right man...no one talks to you anymore...and you have between 14 and 15 times more friends than me...

Hooahguy
12-17-2009, 01:01
hmmm.
seems as if 73% of my statuses are directly taken from lyrics from songs.
i thought it was more like 90%.
thats what friends are for right? to look at every status youve ever made and calculate how many are lyrics?

Beefy187
12-17-2009, 07:08
Hey! I'm not that bad. :laugh4:

Oh wow, you're right man...no one talks to you anymore...and you have between 14 and 15 times more friends than me...

And how many of them are actually my friends? :beam:
Wide and shallow relationship ftw :yes:

pevergreen
12-17-2009, 23:42
:shrug:

Take out orgahs from that list of mine and...

When you coming back man.

Cute Wolf
12-18-2009, 03:50
So... how many orgah have a facebook? and joined the TWOrg group?

pevergreen
12-18-2009, 04:32
Currently sitting at work, all the sales guys (early thirties to fourties) talking about a war between the level 50's in Mafia Wars.


:no:

Csargo
12-18-2009, 05:35
Currently sitting at work, all the sales guys (early thirties to fourties) talking about a war between the level 50's in Mafia Wars.


:no:

Hey, get to work!:furious3: How do I contact your superiors to tell them you are slacking off? Would you be mad if I got you fired? Can we still be friends after all this is over with?

pevergreen
12-18-2009, 06:34
TBH, Managing Director of the company is me dad.

He's not my boss though, boss's direct number 61 7 3426 6907

to those within australia 07 3426 6906


(Mine is 6906 instead of 6907, reception is 6900)

Thermal
12-18-2009, 15:59
So... how many orgah have a facebook? and joined the TWOrg group?

Isn't there no moderator for that? If there is no mod then how can I join it as no one is there to accept on the other side.

Rahwana
12-18-2009, 20:40
Isn't there no moderator for that? If there is no mod then how can I join it as no one is there to accept on the other side.

AFAIK, the moderator was present there, maybe Hax or someone else...

Csargo
12-18-2009, 21:49
Isn't there no moderator for that? If there is no mod then how can I join it as no one is there to accept on the other side.

Hax and Spartacus

Hax
12-19-2009, 00:29
DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUN

This is not spam.

Lemur
12-19-2009, 05:06
I think we've exhausted the unobtanium in this thread.