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redrooster
03-20-2003, 05:13
I believe it was napoleon who said something to this effect
"morale is to training, as 3 is to 1"
training can can breed morale but more often then not it is the ideology of the organisation or nation that is behind the motivation of the warrior.
Hakonarson
03-20-2003, 05:29
Any of them except money, the Ranger's creed and the whip IMO.

the others are all life-styles encompasing moer than simple oath-taking - one is bought up in them and knows no other way, hence they are much more motivating than the other 3, which are generally conscious choices and are able to be backed out of with some ease.....well the whip isn't, but then it's jsut not going to make you a great fighter anyway
Rosacrux
03-20-2003, 11:48
Motivation. Good motivation. Despair is quite decent, as is poverty and lack of opportunities. A good countermeasure is riches and safety, though http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
DemonArchangel
03-21-2003, 02:26
What are the laws of lycurgus/.
Heraclius
03-21-2003, 07:24
If I remember correctly, Lycurgus was a Spartan who organized it into the austere, brutal and military society that we remember it as.
redrooster
03-21-2003, 07:51
i put in ranger's creed cause i cannot think of any modern equivalent that organises and orientates cultures and mentalilities towards fighting and war.
Kongamato
03-21-2003, 08:47
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

You forgot an option.
redrooster
03-21-2003, 09:02
Quote[/b] (Kongamato @ Mar. 21 2003,15:47)]http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

You forgot an option.
ermmm....wat is that..... honour and glory?
71-hour Ahmed
03-21-2003, 17:45
fanatic wicca lesbians... two in one and they distract the enemy as they fight nude... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
71-hour Ahmed
03-21-2003, 17:50
Seriously, you want something they will fight and die for. Something they see as greater than them. Religion is best for this. A lifestyle is maybe second.
Kongamato
03-21-2003, 20:01
The smoking guy means that you forgot pre-battle drugs, such as Hashish and Berserker mushrooms. However, this option is not as broad and basic as the ones you suggested.
Red Peasant
03-22-2003, 00:44
Quote[/b] (Kongamato @ Mar. 21 2003,18:01)]The smoking guy means that you forgot pre-battle drugs, such as Hashish and Berserker mushrooms. However, this option is not as broad and basic as the ones you suggested.
You have a point, I remember a programme about how the Zulus used drugs before going into battle. They were scary chaps.
Red Peasant
03-22-2003, 00:47
Oh, and 'Ranger Creed', WTF is that? I presume it's some silly American cult thing, but it definitely ain't well known. Just a thought, was he a character in Bonanza?
DemonArchangel
03-22-2003, 04:57
well, actually, religion will not breed a competent warrior per se, what it will breed are martyrs, which are infinitely more dangerous than warriors.
redrooster
03-22-2003, 06:29
i agree that ranger's creed does not belong here, but it was the first thing that came to mind.
ranger creed (http://headquarters.50megs.com/PG/RANGERC.html)
the ranger refered to here is of those airborne deep insertion types.
spmetla
03-22-2003, 13:56
The rangers creed was from Roger's Rangers, which were an elite colonist force during the french and indian war that conducted raids and recon for the British regulars.
American propagada? no
Red Peasant
03-22-2003, 14:34
So you claim that was written by Rogers was it?

Doesn't sound like an eighteenth century period piece to me, more like 20thC American hokum. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Catiline
03-23-2003, 04:46
The creed is bollocks, if admirable, the Rangers, as i'm sure RP knows are true enough.

Rangers lead the way http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif No Britishman would ever come up with that, colonial or not....