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Louis VI the Fat
12-18-2009, 14:55
“From Vienna to Beirut (http://lezmi.de/id235aid15o0_vienna-beirut.html),” a photographic project that seeks to find an in-between world where the West and the East intermingle. “It is not a clash of cultures,” he said. “Somehow it’s a blend where something new comes out.”
In the introduction to the book, Mr. Lezmi writes: “These pictures represent neither precise documents nor do they create artistic worlds. They rather mean to be constructions of multicolored, fragmented impressions, like looking through a kaleidoscope.”



As the son of an expatriate Lebanese father and a German mother, Frederic Lezmi (http://www.lezmi.de/) gave little thought to his Arab origins as a boy. His father worked for the United Nations and the young Frederic spent his early years living in African cities and Geneva before settling, at around 12, in a small Black Forest town near Freiburg.

Then came 9/11 and the extra scrutiny applied by authorities around the world to people of Middle Eastern and South Asian descent. Mr. Lezmi, now 31, experienced his share, which aroused an interest in examining his Lebanese half. “I said, ‘If you want to put me in the drawer, I will look at the drawer,’” he recounted.

Mr. Lezmi talked his father into returning to Lebanon, which convinced him to spend a period of study in Beirut, at the Lebanese Academy of Fine Arts. He finished his course a week before war broke out between Israel and the Lebanese militia Hezbollah. Mr. Lezmi stayed for a few weeks, but found that war photography was not for him.

He said he was seeking a third way of depicting the Middle East; neither in romanticized, Orientalist, picturesque photographs nor in “crisis photography” — images of destruction, fighting and privation.
“I was looking for something like hope, or normality, something like a shimmer on the horizon, acknowledging this is a region where there’s a lot of problems, but not falling into clichés,” Mr. Lezmi said.

That spirit eventually led to “From Vienna to Beirut (http://lezmi.de/id235aid15o0_vienna-beirut.html),” a photographic project that seeks to find an in-between world where the West and the East intermingle. “It is not a clash of cultures,” he said. “Somehow it’s a blend where something new comes out.”
In the introduction to the book, Mr. Lezmi writes: “These pictures represent neither precise documents nor do they create artistic worlds. They rather mean to be constructions of multicolored, fragmented impressions, like looking through a kaleidoscope.”

Mr. Lezmi began his trip in August 2008 in the city where he lives, Cologne, leaving town in an Opel Astra station wagon and driving to Vienna, the capital of the old Austro-Hungarian empire and the heart of Central Europe. He proceeded through the Balkans, where the Ottomans held sway for centuries and implanted an Islamic influence, passed through Turkey and Syria and arrived in Lebanon. Mr. Lezmi spent many nights sleeping in his car or camping. Friends joined him for several stretches.

He tried to avoid taking pictures that made an obvious point, and he is wary about hunting for symbolism. “I was not looking for Ottoman traces,” he said. “I was looking for situations with small twists.” The meaning of the pictures, he said, must come from viewing them cumulatively.
Drawing on a cache of 10,000 frames, he produced a book of 29 images that he makes by hand and sells individually. The book is constructed accordion style, so the pictures can be laid out in a long line.

The journey starts in with a look into a parking garage entrance that spirals downward, as though the viewer were entering a tunnel (Slide 1). The last frame, shown at right, puts the viewer into the sky. It shows some Beirut teen-agers in a gondola, over a city under reconstruction.
In between, signs of cultural mingling are subtle. In a picture from Sarajevo (Slide 4), a palm tree is reflected on a car. The word “Miami” can be made out. Women in Soviet-era frumpy dress stand in front of an Italian-style fashion store in Bucharest (Slide 6). The scene is glimpsed through a torn — Iron? — curtain. Western-style graffiti covers an ugly Stalinist bridge in Pristina (Slide 5).
The first Islamic element emerges in a picture from Istanbul (Slide 11). A minaret rises on the edge of a frame, above a wall on which a rakish man sits. The wall separates him from a woman who looks like a Western tourist and has what Mr. Lezmi called a “colonialist” air.
Another minaret appears in a whimsical picture from Mahmatlar, Turkey (Slide 15), but it emerges only with scrutiny. The focus is a rusty and rickety metal rocket, echoed by the minaret, thrusting upward from a dirt patch. A bed of apples lies on the ground nearby. Maybe the rocket runs on apple fuel, Mr. Lezmi mused.


The tensions between secularism and a religious Islamic society in Turkey serve as another subtext. A street shot from Istanbul (Slide 12) shows the head of a sensuous model gazing at the viewer from an ad, with two companion views next door behind window bars, as a woman walks by across the street in a head scarf. The wearing of head scarves is a major source of debate in Turkey. Another Istanbul shot shows the lower half of three women set apart from men strolling across the street. The women are faceless. A vertical part of a window frame divides them.
http://lezmi.de/id235aid15o0_vienna-beirut.html





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COLLE DI VAL D'ELSA, Italy — For hundreds of years, Colle di Val d’Elsa has been renowned for its crystal and as the birthplace of medieval sculptor and architect Arnolfo di Cambio. But, the picturesque Tuscan town, situated on the road between Florence and Siena, may soon be better known as home to one of Italy’s largest mosques. That is, if it’s ever built.

The controversy over the planned construction has been brewing for seven years and has split the local community. The outcome here could set the tone for Muslim endeavors and integration across Italy.

“Those of us who live here are really afraid,” said Lucia Prizzi, who lives in an apartment beside the field and vineyards where the mosque will be built.


“It’s not right that the local government gave them this land without consulting us first,” she said.
Her sentiments are echoed on graffiti along a nearby wall: “No Mosque,” “Christian Hill,” and “Thanks to the communists the Arabs are in our house!!!” Another calls on the mayor, who supports the mosque’s construction, to build it at his house.

From emigrant to immigrant nation
Once a nation of emigrants, Italy has only had a sizeable immigrant population for around 15 years, and is still adjusting to the changing circumstances. Yet, in many areas someone from an adjacent town can still be seen as a “foreigner” — as they have a different dialect, cuisine, and patron saint — let alone someone from across the Mediterranean Sea who practices a different religion.
With one of the European Union’s highest unemployment rates, wages at a near standstill and prices shooting higher along with the euro currency, many Italians see little room for immigrant labor. And since the rise of international terrorism, the growing Muslim community — now at around 1 million, or 2 percent of the population — is being eyed with even greater scrutiny than other immigrant groups.

After the July 2005 London transport bombings, dozens of suspected Islamic extremists were deported from the country. And in April, former Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi’s government said it thwarted planned attacks by such extremists on Milan’s subway system and on Bologna’s cathedral, which houses a painting that depicts the Muslim prophet Mohammed in a Dantesque hell.

Feeding on the country’s fears, the political party La Lega Nord — or the Northern League — switched its platform of separation from southern Italy to kicking out all foreigners, but most notably Muslims.
Meantime, although there are more than 500 Islamic centers of varying sizes across the country, Italy does not recognize Islam as an official religion.
This charged atmosphere has affected life in Colle di Val d’Elsa, where the Muslim community and the mayor have been working to build a new, larger, Islamic center to accommodate the town’s growing number of Muslims and to promote cultural exchange.

Full article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12927212/




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Muslims Say F.B.I. Tactics Sow Anger and Fear Published: December 17, 2009

The anxiety and anger have been building all year. In March, a national coalition of Islamic organizations warned that it would cease cooperating with the F.B.I. (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/federal_bureau_of_investigation/index.html?inline=nyt-org) unless the agency stopped infiltrating mosques and using “agents provocateurs to trap unsuspecting Muslim youth.”

In September, a cleric in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, sued the government, claiming that the F.B.I. had threatened to scuttle his application for a green card unless he agreed to spy on relatives overseas — echoing similar claims made in recent court cases in California, Florida and Massachusetts.

And last month, after an imam in Queens was charged with aiding what the authorities called a bomb-making plot (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/21/nyregion/21imam.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=baker%20zraick%20imam&st=cse), a group of South Asian Muslims there began compiling a database of complaints about their brushes with counterterrorism investigators.
Since the terror attacks of 2001, the F.B.I. and Muslim and Arab-American leaders across the country have worked to build a relationship of trust, sharing information both to fight terrorism and to protect the interests of mosques and communities.

But those relations have reached a low point in recent months, many Muslim leaders say. Several high-profile cases in which informers have infiltrated mosques and helped promote plots, they say, have sown a corrosive fear among their people that F.B.I. informers are everywhere, listening.



“There is a sense that law enforcement is viewing our communities not as partners but as objects of suspicion,” said Ingrid Mattson, president of the Islamic Society of North America (http://www.isna.net/ISNAHQ/pages/About-Us.aspx), who represented Muslims at the national prayer service a day after President Obama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per)’s inauguration (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/p/presidents_and_presidency_us/inaugurations/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier). “A lot of people are really, really alarmed about this.”

There is little doubt that a spate of recent cases — from the alleged bomb plot by a former Manhattan coffee vendor, Najibullah Zazi (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/25/nyregion/25terror.html?scp=1&sq=najibullah%20zazi%20arrested&st=cse), to the shootings at Fort Hood (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/f/fort_hood_texas/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier), in Texas — has heightened Americans’ concerns about homegrown terrorism. Muslim leaders have promised to redouble efforts to combat extremism in their ranks.

Yet they also worry about the fallout for the vast numbers of the innocent. Some Muslims, Ms. Mattson said, have canceled trips abroad to avoid arousing suspicion. People are wary of whom they speak to. Community groups say it is harder to find volunteers. Many Muslim charities are hobbled.

Full article: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/us/18muslims.html?_r=1&hp




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Nope, no sharing of my thoughts. I'll leave it with these fragmented impressions, like looking through a kaleidoscope, at the West and Muslims as this decade draws to a close.

Fragony
12-18-2009, 15:38
Never mess with the balance of things, we will see how things go from here but a lot of mistakes have been made. It was never really necesary to make them but that's what happens if you let lefties put society to the test of their petty ideals, all play for them as long as it ends with 'logue' it must be pretty smart. Lefties, could you please do me a favor and become less narcistic, selfish and cynical, get a job, get a shave, be of use besides accepting payment for saying boooooo at manifestations.

Or die, fine as well.

The muslims can stay they are welcome

Watchman
12-18-2009, 21:57
I see someone's angry on some Internets about stuff.

Major Robert Dump
12-19-2009, 16:40
Wait, you mean European nations have immigrants who come to their countries and whine about entitlements, too? That's awesome!!!1

Louis VI the Fat
12-22-2009, 02:47
Sarkozy wades into Swiss minaret ban debate

Nicolas Sarkozy has deplored the “excessive” French media and political reaction to the Swiss minaret ban, in an opinion piece for Le Monde newspaper.

The French president said he was “stupefied” by the response and wrote that instead of condemning the Swiss for the vote outcome, it was important to understand “what it intended to express and what so many people in Europe feel, including the French”.

Sarkozy said he was convinced a yes or no response to such issues could only lead to “painful misunderstandings, a feeling of injustice” over a problem that could be resolved on a “case by case basis with respect for the convictions and beliefs of everyone”.

The yes vote was not a barrier to freedom of religion or conscience, he argued, while paying tribute to the Swiss system of direct democracy.

“No one – and no more so than Switzerland – would dream of questioning these fundamental freedoms,” wrote Sarkozy in the piece published on Tuesday.

He said he would not say no to minarets in France but cautioned that in such a secular country religious adherents should “refrain from all ostentation or provocation” of religious practices.

Muslims should recognise France’s Christian tradition, he said, adding that anything that resembled a challenge to this heritage “would condemn to failure the very necessary establishment of Islam in France”.[
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/index/Sarkozy_wades_into_Swiss_minaret_ban_debate.html?cid=7855722

Sarkozy's opinion piece: (French)http://www.lemonde.fr/cgi-bin/ACHATS/acheter.cgi?offre=ARCHIVES&type_item=ART_ARCH_30J&objet_id=1108516



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The Grande Mosquée de Paris ("Great Mosque of Paris"), located in the 5th arrondissement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5th_arrondissement_of_Paris), is the largest Mosque in France and the second largest in Europe. It was founded after World War I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I)France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France)'s gratefulness to the Muslim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim) tirailleurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirailleurs) from the colonies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Colonial_Empire) who had fought against Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany). The Mosque was built following the mudéjar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud%C3%A9jar) style, and its minaret (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minaret) is 33 meteres high. President Gaston Doumergue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaston_Doumergue) inaugurated it on July 15 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_15), 1926 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1926).
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The very centre of Paris, since 1926:

https://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3937/86298717.jpg



https://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1581/parisgrandmosquecourtya.jpg

Louis VI the Fat
12-22-2009, 03:13
The Grand Mosque de Paris is build in the heart of the Left Bank, between the treasured institutes of higher learning: the Botanical Garden, the Intitute for the Arabic World, the University of Paris - the oldest university North of the Alps.

The mosque is a copy of the university/mosque of Fez, Morocco, which in 1926 was a French colony. The why of the inspiration should speak for itself:


The University of Al-Karaouine or Al-Qarawiyyin (Arabic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language): جامعة القرويين‎) (other transliterations of the name include Qarawiyin, Kairouyine, Kairaouine, Qairawiyin, Qaraouyine, Quaraouiyine, Quarawin, and Qaraouiyn) is a university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University) located in Fes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fes), Morocco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco). Founded in 859, as a madrasah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrasah),[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Al-Karaouine#cite_note-founding-0) the university is one of the leading spiritual and educational centers of the Muslim world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world). It is considered the oldest continuously operating (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_universities_in_continuous_operation) academic degree (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_degree)-granting university in the world.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Al-Karaouine#cite_note-1)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Al-Karaouine#cite_note-1)
Al Karaouine University played a leading role in the cultural and academic relations between the Islamic world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_world) and Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe) in the middle ages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_ages).






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The Lala Mustafa Mosque, Cyprus. It is a copy of the French flamboyant gothic, once the finest such cathedral outside of France:



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Kadagar_AV
12-22-2009, 23:35
I for one would like to ban churches too... At least bell towers.

I lived next to a church once, waking up cause of that ******* bell every sunday morning was the suck. Specially when you were hung over.

About the pictures in the OP, I dont get it. Some of the pics are cool, some are just pics of hot girls, some just seem very random.

I don't see the point of it all though.

Louis VI the Fat
12-23-2009, 00:29
I don't see the point of it all though.Points are overrated. They belong to a previous era. Fragmentary, narrationless tidbits is where it's at nowadays. As the bombardment of ever more information increased, so narrative stories have decreased, in number and scope.

An entire generation is growing up, educated by Wikipedia. Grand narratives that make sense of it all have become simpiflied.

Here, I simply dispose of narrative altogether. A sort of 'have it your way then'. See what you make of it without any larger story. I could add a story, to stimulate discussion, but for that to have any chance, it would have to comply with what has become the norm: limited to the most basic, bare-boned 'me intellegent, u all stupid / our side right, the other wrong'. Which in the end produces an even less stimulating debate than complete silence.

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Fragony
12-23-2009, 11:57
I for one would like to ban churches too... At least bell towers.

Lol here they ring every half-hour also at night, I think it's lovely, what is a medieval town without church-bells? Really adds to the atmosphere of the place.

Mooks
12-25-2009, 04:22
Lol here they ring every half-hour also at night, I think it's lovely, what is a medieval town without church-bells? Really adds to the atmosphere of the place.

If I lived in one of those towns, and could not move for some reason or another. I would have to vandalize it. A old wall adds to the atmosphere of a medieval town, maybe even a old church, but a church bell would be a bloody nuisance.

Fragony
12-25-2009, 10:26
Well avoid this place as there is a high-school for churchbell-players here, it's really funny when the church is playing 'Smells like teen spirit' or 'Yesterday'

Skullheadhq
01-03-2010, 19:01
I quite like it when i awaken on a sunday morning and hear church bells.

Kadagar_AV
01-03-2010, 22:35
I quite like it when i awaken on a sunday morning and hear church bells.

Clearly you don't have much of a saturday night then...

Louis VI the Fat
01-04-2010, 11:19
Top Ten Good News Stories from the Muslim World in 2009 that You Never Heard About:



10. Saudi Arabia opened its first coeducational college campus, the King Abdullah Science and Technology University (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wires/2009/09/23/saudi-arabia-inaugurates-_ws_296743.html). In a country where the sexes have been so separated in public that some have spoken of 'gender Apartheid,' this move, which came from King Abdullah, provoked raging controversy. When a prominent cleric criticized having male and female students on the same campus and the teaching of modern scientific theories like Darwinism, the king summarily fired his ass. It may seem a small thing, but many big social processes start small. Most Americans forget that Princeton U. did not become coed until 1969 (http://www.insidecollege.com/reno/Years-that-Mens-Colleges-Became-Coed/366/list.do).

9. Qatar is on track to average 7.5 percent per annum growth for the next few years (http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story_s.asp?StoryId=1093292998). The natural gas giant is a cauldron of development activity. It permits Aljazeera satellite news to remain the most open and controversial media outlet in the Arab world. It is expanding the 'Education City' complex, in which many American universities maintain campuses (http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091225/FOREIGN/712249908/1002), and which serves as a key educational hub for the Gulf and its region. (This robust expansion contrasts with the difficult times higher education is facing in Dubai).

8. A Pew Forum on Religion and Life poll finds that American Muslims are unusual in the degree to which (http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=507) they are integrated into mainstream American society and demonstrate moderate attitudes, condemning religious extremism and violence. They differ siegnificantly from the profile of Muslims in the UK and Germany, e.g, in these regards. (Muslims in the US are generally from higher class origins and are better educated and wealthier than is typically the case with European Muslims).

7. The information revolution is making strides in the Arab world. A University of Maryland Poll finds that "the use of the internet continued to grow (http://www.sadat.umd.edu/), with 36% stating that they use the internet at least several times a week and only 38% stating that they never use the internet (compared with 52% in 2008).

6. Albania has averaged 10 percent a year growth for each of the last four years (http://www.examiner.com/x-20010-NY-Economy-and-Politics-Examiner%7Ey2009m12d18-Albania-is-the-best-place-to-invest-in-2010), and was the fastest-growing economy in Europe in 2009. It held elections in 2009, and although they were imperfect, an EU report described them [pdf] "as meeting most OSCE commitments," despite flaws. (http://www.nrc.nl/redactie/Europa/voortgangsrapporten2009/albanie.pdf) The European Union seems to be giving the country a nod in its application to join the EU. Albania has an especially aggressive government policy toward implementing alternative energy and wants to be the first green country in Europe. It depends heavily on thermal and hydroelectric plants (perhaps too heavily). Brussels concluded this year, "The government took measures towards the development of the sector by issuing licences for the construction of seven wind farms with a total installed capacity of about 1360 MW and one 140 MW biomass thermal power station." Albania, a country of 3.2 million, is 70-80% of Muslim heritage, but a majority of the country is non-religious. That is, these European Muslims are more secular than German, Spanish, Italian, Greek and Polish Christians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Europe#Eurobarometer_poll_2005).

5. The small Gulf oil monarchy of Kuwait took steps toward greater democracy and rule of law. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/17/kuwait-women-elected-parliament) Women were given the vote in 2005, and in the May parliamentary elections, 4 women were for the first time elected to the 50-seat parliament, and fundamentalists only gained 16 seats, down from 24 previously. As Greg Gause points out, in December parliament was allowed to go forward (http://lynch.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/12/18/gause_the_kuwaiti_questioning) with a vote of no-confidence in the prime minister, which he survived. What is significant is that he is from the ruling Al-Sabah family and it had previously not been considered dignified to subject a high official from the family to such a vote.

4. Indonesia, the most populous Muslim country in the world at about 230 mn., had successful parliamentary elections in 2009, further consolidating the country's decade-old democracy (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2009/0409/p06s10-woap.html). Secular parties did better this year, and support for Muslim fundamentalism dropped, both in the voting both and in opinion polls. President Barack Obama's enormous popularity in the country is credited by some observers for a sharp decline (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/episodes/september-11-2009/islam-in-indonesia/4167/) in approval of Muslim militancy. Indonesia has become the world's 19th largest economy, and it, Saudi Arabia and Turkey are the three Muslim-majority states in the G20.

3. Turkey, which averaged 5.8 percent a year economic growth between 2002 and 2008 (http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=52003), was slowed but not devastated by the world's financial crisis. In these 6 years it has moved from being the world's 26th largest economy to being the 17th largest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29). It is on track to be the second fastest-growing economy in 2010, after South Korea, according to OECD projections. The democratically elected Justice and Development Party government continued to govern with considerable popularity. Despite severe tensions between Ankara and the Kurdish minority in the southeast, the ruling party took the bold step of pushing for more Kurdish rights (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-12/30/content_12725640.htm).

2. Stability returned to Lebanon. (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=1&article_id=110228) Successful parliamentary elections, untainted by Syrian interference, were held in June, and a national unity government was formed in November after a lengthy negotiating process. The Lebanese army intervened forcefully and in a timely fashion to nip potential sectarian flare-ups in the bud. The 13,000 UN troops patrolling the south helped back the Lebanese army, and despite tensions with Israel on the part both of Palestinian militants and the Shiite Hizbullah militia, there was no significant clash on the southern border. Prime Minister Saad Hariri recently visited Damascus, building on earlier diplomacy by Maronite Catholic president Michel Suleiman, a former general, and reducing regional tensions. Lebanon is probably now about 70% Muslim if the children are counted. The year 2009 saw the return of musical and cultural festivals and the country of 4 million attracted 2 million tourists (http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/lebanon/090824/beirut%E2%80%99s-summer-season-brings-stars-sometimes-warzone), the best year ever. Lebanon's banking and real estate sectors were slowed but by no means devastated by the global financial crisis, since they had adopted conservative investment policies as a result of bad experiences during the years of instability in the last quarter of the twentieth century. The country was on track to grow 6 percent in 2009, down from 8.5 percent in 2008. The brutal Israeli assault on Lebanon's economic infrastructure of summer, 2006, set the country back three decades, and it will take time fully to recover. But despite fragility and a few clashes and small bombings, it is fair to say that at the moment, your biggest problem in Beirut is that you can't get a timely reservation at the better restaurants.

1. A considerable proportion of the Iranian public resorted to concerted street and cultural protests against the stealing of the June presidential election by incumbent Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Crowds demanded popular sovereignty and democracy and condemned dictatorship. Among the largest demonstrations were held just last Sunday. It is the greatest political awakening in Iran for 30 years. (Well, OK, you heard about this one, but not as much last weekend as it deserved; the corporate media go on vacation from news at awkward times.)

http://www.juancole.com/2010/01/top-ten-good-news-stories-from-muslim.html


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Meanwhile, what to do with Guantanamo prisoners, many of whom have been cleared and have been held in custody without a due process for years?
Thursday, December 31, 2009


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A Bipartisan Proposal [Cliff May]




Step (1): Return all Gitmo detainees to Yemen.
Step (2): Use Predator missiles to strike the baggage-claim area 20 minutes after they arrive.


Just an idea.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDNhMWVmNGJjOGRiYjAwMDkwNjliYTI2MmYxMDZjM2Y=

Fragony
01-04-2010, 14:48
Clearly you don't have much of a saturday night then...

I don't even notice them anymore

Beskar
01-04-2010, 16:18
Clearly you don't have much of a saturday night then...

Though he can most likely remember his and not have a hole in his wallet at the same time.