What if TW ended...

[edyzmedieval]

I want to ask my fellow Orgahs what would they be thinking and playing after the end of the TW franchise. I feel that after Napoleon, TW has nowhere to go since modern battles are not suited for this strategy game and the only option is reworking the existing games or going really ancient like stone battles.

So, what do you think about the end of the TW franchise?

And what would you do if...

1. There was a TW competitor when TW ended

2. There was not a TW competitor when TW ended.

Thoughts?

[Owen Glyndwr]

If there was a TW competitor I'd probably buy their games if they received good reviews. Otherwise, I'll stick with my paradox games and civilization games, thank you very much.

[A Nerd]

I'd be sad if TW ended! A competetor would definately be looked into. I was hoping they would go back and redo some old titles like shogun and rome.

[Crazed Rabbit]

If I get the hankering for a TW style game, I know where to go (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=124212).
:yes:

CR

[hoom]

There are plenty of places that TW could go that it hasn't yet.

My fear is that they keep releasing horribly buggy versions with poor design decisions (star forts...) & sales keep dropping until they just stop with no competitors.

It'd be not so bad if someone released a decent quality competitor series about the same time.
But there is a good reason that nobody really has come anywhere near to making a competitor to the TW series: Its an astoundingly massive & complex undertaking.

[Nelson]

I don't think Total War will end without going back to Sengoku Jidai.

Our yari cavalry will thunder across the plains of Yamato once again!

Banzai!

[Tomisama]

There is still the American civil war (1860s), which will probably be next (American Total War).

And China's three kingdoms civil war (220 to 265), that is rich in possibilities.


But my personal wish would be that they would go back to the Sengoku Jidai :bow:

[Belgolas]

LOL no where to go that is a joke. There are hundreds of possibilities of a next total war with out doing a single repeat. You need to brush up on your history. There are dozens of time periods in Asia alone. Same with Africa and the Americas. Europe/mideast has so many possibilities we haven't even done 1/100th of the possible time periods/regions that would be interesting.

My only prayer for the Total War series is that the next time period is FAR FAR FAR away from gunpowder as I think it is realatively boring. Hopefully they get away from Europe after NTW. Asia would be so interesting in almost any time period as you have vastely different culters/armies/weapons/technology/fighting styles/terrain type/government types/etc. With an Asia Total War you could have the Indians/Chinese/Japanese/Koreans/Mongols/Persians/Northern Russian tribes/ and all sorts of nations.

[Devastatin Dave]

I don't think Total War will end without going back to Sengoku Jidai.

Our yari cavalry will thunder across the plains of Yamato once again!

Banzai!

Man, I wish they would go back and redo with the new improved graphics. But there is still a part of me that likes Shogun the way it is..

[oz_wwjd]

I really wish they'd go back and re-do MTW so it would work on the newer Graphics cards. If they did that..

[Den of Earth]

They could do American Civil War, the Prussian-Danish/Austrian/Franco (Bismarck) Wars, and maybe a few Victorian Wars to name but a few. I'd like to see them do all of these in a Kingdoms style release. If CA is going to go strictly with an objective driven scenario release(s) then they'll lose what I thought seperated their work from the other guys. The ability to fight wars on a grand scale...total war. And they'll probably lose me. :skull:

[Megas Methuselah]

There are too many possibilities to consider. It's my personal wetdream to see an Ancient: Total War that spans the world, including Europe, Africa, Asia, the Americas. Obviously, you probably won't be able to traverse from one great theatre to another so easily, if at all... but it would still be amazing to witness the great civilizations each of those continents boasted in one game.

Too bad it's just a dream. :sad:

[edyzmedieval]

LOL no where to go that is a joke. There are hundreds of possibilities of a next total war with out doing a single repeat. You need to brush up on your history. There are dozens of time periods in Asia alone. Same with Africa and the Americas. Europe/mideast has so many possibilities we haven't even done 1/100th of the possible time periods/regions that would be interesting.

My only prayer for the Total War series is that the next time period is FAR FAR FAR away from gunpowder as I think it is realatively boring. Hopefully they get away from Europe after NTW. Asia would be so interesting in almost any time period as you have vastely different culters/armies/weapons/technology/fighting styles/terrain type/government types/etc. With an Asia Total War you could have the Indians/Chinese/Japanese/Koreans/Mongols/Persians/Northern Russian tribes/ and all sorts of nations.

My history is good enough, thank you for your kind observation.

Dozens of time periods? Well my friend, TW has always been a "broad period game", and apart from Shogun where they managed to set the tone right, having a game spanning over 50 years unless it's something remarkable like the Sengoku Jidai period, it will not work properly due to the massive change in the strategy engine of TW games.

I agree about the gunpowder area, but where would CA go that's something to think about...
Thing is, they can't do this much more, considering ETW.

[Beefy187]

LOL no where to go that is a joke. There are hundreds of possibilities of a next total war with out doing a single repeat. You need to brush up on your history. There are dozens of time periods in Asia alone. Same with Africa and the Americas. Europe/mideast has so many possibilities we haven't even done 1/100th of the possible time periods/regions that would be interesting.

My only prayer for the Total War series is that the next time period is FAR FAR FAR away from gunpowder as I think it is realatively boring. Hopefully they get away from Europe after NTW. Asia would be so interesting in almost any time period as you have vastely different culters/armies/weapons/technology/fighting styles/terrain type/government types/etc. With an Asia Total War you could have the Indians/Chinese/Japanese/Koreans/Mongols/Persians/Northern Russian tribes/ and all sorts of nations.

But theres not many period which has lots of historical sources, dramas and huge battles like Rome, Medieval and Shogun. I think, no matter which new period they bring up, its not going to be as interesting as those time period.

Only way I can see TW games continuing their legacy is by either redoing or by introducing some system which is completely new and amazing.

[Den of Earth]

I think CA has plenty of 19th century conflicts in which they could perhaps take logistics and naval support to the next level. How about gunboats(ironclads) attacking coastal forts. Sailing up navagable rivers to shell a city and then land some marines . How about Engineers. How about railroads. Blowing up bridges and then being able to rebuild them would be really cool. Cavalry could raid behind lines and tear up railroads, raid depots. I think WWI would be a far reach yet, and I'd also like to see them go back to Rome, but the Napoleonic Age is just the beginning for nations having Command Staffs, War Colleges, an army corps system and large massed batteries. I drool about the possibilities.:book:

[Beskar]

There are too many possibilities to consider. It's my personal wetdream to see an Ancient: Total War that spans the world, including Europe, Africa, Asia, the Americas. Obviously, you probably won't be able to traverse from one great theatre to another so easily, if at all... but it would still be amazing to witness the great civilizations each of those continents boasted in one game.

Too bad it's just a dream. :sad:

You can traverse the conitents. IT is the fact that the Eygptians went to South America (tobacco found in mummy's corpses) and shared similar pyramid styles. The fact the French settled in America, before the Mongolians did, as well.

[Ethelred Unread]

Time and investment is all that's needed for a competitor to the TW games.

I'm sure there will be a games company out there gunning for CA.

I think they'll already be thinking about their next time period and as others have said they might go down the "episodes" route - I guess this depends on what the format N:TW is and how well it sells.

I think they or their competitors need to get focus on the following:-

1. Competent BAI or CAI OR a workable Human vs Human campaign
2. Interesting e.g. mass appeal historic era. Thinking of the size of the Chinese market, getting the marketing right (and probably sorting out piracy - no mean task) and you've got a huge revenue stream right there.
3. If not episodic campaigns, then something to keep the player entertained during the end game, how many of you quit after getting to the "tipping point" when you know you'll win?
4. The Mod tools question - do you want to shift more original games or have more DLC? Mod Tools kind of make any DLC you produce obsolete because modders could add it for free, so mod tools released after a year? 2 years?
5. A *new feature* like Naval battles (hard in Medieval period) or Economics, or a Free Hat.
:2cents:

[ollicompolli]

Well, they can do Medieval, Rome or Shogun again. That'd satisfy us grouches and if there was a cheesy Hollywood movie set in the era CA wants to set the game in then they would have hit the jackpot.

If they refuse to do this, then the Russian Civil War might be pretty good. Think about it. A lot of swords involved, some shooting and a huge amount of raiding. It's perfect for the E:TW system. One military advisor called the Russian Civil War "an 18th-century affair" (or something along those lines...).

Relying on DLC's that do nothing for the campaign and screw the multi will be the end for CA.:elephant:

[antisocialmunky]

Dynasty Warriors except Total War done in anime style would be epic. Realism gets boring after a while.

[Durallan]

For all those asia fanatics I wouldn't be disheartened, mainly because they have done so much in europe I would imagine they are getting rather tired of it no doubt, RTW, M2TW, ETW, NTW.

No doubt the next game will be something along the lines of STW 2 or somewhere in asia, which will be a nice change, although it must be something they can do with their naval engine seeing they spent so much time developing that I would imagine they would be annoyed if they couldn't use that in some way in the next game.

[Belgolas]

ha! I can name plenty of time periods that CA hasn't gotten into. Who ever thinks an ancient Asian time period wouldn't be interesting is completly wrong as I think it is more interesting than Rome. You have MASSIVE armies and more caulters and religions than Europe. You could even do the mongol expansion where there were multiple nations that could have sprung up. The mongol wars are estimated at killing over 40 million (battle, massacre, flooding, and famine). There were also several naval battles in varios places although not as important as the gundpoweder age but still lots of potential.

There is also ancient greece, ancient egypt, babylons, aztecs, myans, tons of african nations, etc etc etc......... Don't tell me there arn't more than Rome, Medieval,and Japan which is just a very tiny part of Asia. There is so much more to explore.

[hoom]

Time and investment is all that's needed for a competitor to the TW games. Substantially more time & investment than is required for any other game type.
&/or some seriously over-achieving coders.

I think Crytek is probably the only currently known studio I could buy taking it on with any chance of success.
Perhaps some other nobodies out of Eastern Europe? :inquisitive: (but there are only so many of those that can happen)

[Elmar Bijlsma]

The interesting periods for CA to portray are near limitless. The amount of periods that CA can promote successfully to a mass market is frightfully small.

Average Joe is a dumbass.
"ZOMG Samurai, ZOMG, kniggets, ZOMG Romans, ZOMG, Kniggets again, ZOMG muskets" is about as much recognition as could be squeezed out of Average Joe for the previous titles in the series. Anything more obscure then that and marketeers would be having headaches. Personally, I think they might be a smidge lazy not to try. Build it and they will come. It's a risk, and when millions are spend risks are avoided.

Even stuff like the Pelopponessian Wars or Thirty Years' War would be somewhat hard to pitch because not much is known about it by Average Joe. And these are among the most significant and iconic wars in human history! You can forget about a TW game about the Khmer Empire! I'm amazed they even dared tackle the age of Marlborough and Louis XIV. I doubt it would have happened if it weren't for the American War of Independence being included in the sales pitch!

So we re-fight familiar wars at Gettysburg, St.Lo, Waterloo, Cannae or Agincourt for the umpteenth time.

[Quirinus]

Personal wish is for CA to do Rome again, on a new engine. RTW is a good game, but there was also a lot of wasted potential...

[Wishazu]

I think that if CA are going to revisit any of their previous titles' time periods then I think Rome TW2 will be the most likely candidate. Think about it, you have various different cultures and religions and the naval engine won't be wasted.

Besides, I think Naval battles will be more fun in this period, you won't have to worry about the wind powering your ships for a start.

[Ethelred Unread]

Perhaps some other nobodies out of Eastern Europe? :inquisitive: (but there are only so many of those that can happen)

Agree completely, hence the lack of competition for CA in this area so far.

I too think that it'll be an eastern european company or how long do we have to wait until China's game developers get up and running?

[nafod]

I really don't think TW applies to well to anytime period that doesn't cover multiple nations with the reasonable prospect of all out warfare, or at least expansionist aims.

For instance I'm a huge American Civil War enthusiast but think it would best be served as a scenarrio ala Kingdoms. How much fun would playing one of two factions be? Plus the whole battle system doesn't seem to adept at handling engagements that lasted multiple days. Ala Gettysburg....

July 1st - the I Corp of the ANV beats back Bufords Calvary and the 1st and 11th corp of the AOP (these forces retreat South, cross the Potomac and end their turn right next to the Rebel capital of Richmond VA.

July 2nd - the Remaining 5 corps of the AOP attack the I Corp of the ANV (The II Corp arrives as reinforcements). Things were going well for the Rebels until an artillery battery turned 180 to fire at an errant union calvary brigade and took out Ambrose Powell Hill. The I corp of the ANV retreats accross the appalachians ending up in the area of Columbus Ohio. The II corp retreats N to Albany NY. In the meantime the 1st and 11th corp of the AOP along with Buford's calvary lay seige to Richmond VA.

July 3rd - Longstreets III Corp of the ANV arrives to perform Pickett's charge. It's a slaughter as expected and this stack retreats south west towards Lynchburg VA. The AOP does not pursue the rebels as their calvary ranks seem to have mysteriously thinned considerably while trying to run down routing enemies.

July 4th - Someone trys to move a gunboat up the Mississippi to blockade Vicksburg MS and the game crashes.

Using Empire as the current example for how well CA can craft a gunpowder battle, I must say I was disappointed. In M2TW the gunpowder implementation was fun, it was a curiousity that came along late game and was a welcome change from the trebs and catapults.

Additionally I found the battles of M2TW and RTW much more interesting, the BAI seemed to handle melee combat much better. As an orderly assault or, in the case of missile superiority, wait till they come to us strategy seemed to fit those in place at the time much better than Empire's charge calvary at artillery and make the infantry dither about aimlessly.

[marcusbrutus]

They could keep reworking MTW forever for all I care. Bring on M3TW, M4TW, M5TW... I want better AI, you can add your own wish list.

[Veresov]

The series for me has ended. Going to Steam, limited moddability, and a horrible gameplay experience with Empire did it for me. I was a loyal preorder customer prior to Empire.

[DisruptorX]

Dynasty Warriors except Total War done in anime style would be epic. Realism gets boring after a while.

That depends what you mean by "anime style". The Dynasty Warriors games are in manga style, but its rather subdued and well done. If you mean saucer sized eyes, hell no.

I've wanted to see a 3 Kingdoms: Total War for a while, I just find the period more interesting than Feudal Japan. Now, its not as popular as Japan, but I think it would still find a big audience. 18th Century Europe, afterall, is certainly not a common setting for a video game, even in the strategy genre.

As for the original question: Total War has no competition. I'll continue to buy and play these games as long as they are made because, despite the flaws, there is nothing else like them.

[antisocialmunky]

Well, that's is a generalization, you are correct except that 'manga' is also an umbrella term for a variety of styles.

But yeah, something stylized may be fun as TW has really hit the uncanny valley with ETW.

[Brutus]

First post here in years, so be kind...

I would love it if they did a game about the 16th-17th century: Wars of Religion, Dutch Revolt, English Civil War, Anglo-Dutch Wars, the Wars of Louis XIV, the European expansion into the West and East, etc, etc.

Maybe a bit similar in gameplay to Empire, but I was a bit disappointed they left the 17th century out!

[Nelson]

Welcome back, Brutus!

I was hoping we would see the 30 Years War too.

[Miracle]

I'd rather wait for CPU and GPU technology to advance to the point where we can see hundreds of thousands of well-rendered soldiers on the battlefield. Right now we can only do a few ten thousands - scarce as many as the vanguard of imperial armies in the days of their power.

As for Asia: Total War, I think Elmar put it best - the Average Joe problem is real and exacerbated with high development costs and SEGA. You can make a lot more money if there's a white guy on the box cover. The only exceptions are ninjas, Ryu or fully covered blokes like Master Chief.

[Brutus]

Thanks, Nelson!

30 years' War would've been awesome. It would even have made a fitting expansion for Empire, I think, but... oh well, perhaps in the future. I think the 17th century would offer lots of oppurtunities still, so here's hoping for the future! :beam:

[antisocialmunky]

I wouldn't be surprised if they released a lot of little expansions. It is a rich period and the engine and graphics probably cost a fortune.

[AussieGiant]

I still think they should do more focused period pieces like Napoleon.

Rather than expand the scope of the games which have nearly been maxed out with Empire, my idea would be to select very specific periods and get into more detail. Somewhat like Napoleon.

i.e. 30 Year War, War of the Roses, Cromwell period, etc etc.

[ReluctantSamurai]

July 1st - the I Corp of the ANV beats back Bufords Calvary and the 1st and 11th corp of the AOP (these forces retreat South, cross the Potomac and end their turn right next to the Rebel capital of Richmond VA.

July 2nd - the Remaining 5 corps of the AOP attack the I Corp of the ANV (The II Corp arrives as reinforcements). Things were going well for the Rebels until an artillery battery turned 180 to fire at an errant union calvary brigade and took out Ambrose Powell Hill. The I corp of the ANV retreats accross the appalachians ending up in the area of Columbus Ohio. The II corp retreats N to Albany NY. In the meantime the 1st and 11th corp of the AOP along with Buford's calvary lay seige to Richmond VA.

July 3rd - Longstreets III Corp of the ANV arrives to perform Pickett's charge. It's a slaughter as expected and this stack retreats south west towards Lynchburg VA. The AOP does not pursue the rebels as their calvary ranks seem to have mysteriously thinned considerably while trying to run down routing enemies.

July 4th - Someone trys to move a gunboat up the Mississippi to blockade Vicksburg MS and the game crashes.

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

TW has already ended for me.....I stopped buying with M2. If someone new steps in when CA bites it, and can produce a quality product, I'm in.

[antisocialmunky]

... Wow, I missed that post. Goodjobsir.

[Goaswerfraiejen]

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

TW has already ended for me.....I stopped buying with M2. If someone new steps in when CA bites it, and can produce a quality product, I'm in.

Quoted for truth. My experience with M2 discouraged me from buying Kingdoms and Empire, and it will continue to do so in the future. Also worthy of note: I wouldn't be able to run anything past M2TW on this computer, no matter how much I wanted to, and buying a new rig is simply not justified by games like ETW at this point.

I have in no way regretted my decision(s), and continue to enjoy playing RTW EB a LOT. I like it so much that I am entirely indifferent to Total War's demise.

[Rilder]

I Say CA should think about letting it go... they won't since its probably a cash cow but still, if things are gonna keep getting worse and worse (I don't know if it has really since I haven't played ETW yet (7.2 gigs left! AKA 6 days!)) Then they should just let it go... In like 10 years or so the open source community might take the reins and start making some really good remakes.

[Fisherking]

Sooner or later everything ends but I don’t think it is time for TW to go the way of the passenger pidgin just yet.

In a month or two we may even know what the Next Total War will be.

I am betting on Rome II Total War...that seems safe enough.

They, and by extension Sega, have a significant portion of their hardcore fan base ticked off at the moment, with what the fans view as broken promises and substandard product.

If I were them I would be looking for ways to reverse that, at least to some extent.

It is just my thoughts but what would make the largest number of dissidents happy would be mod tools and showing further support of the mod community.

Most people don’t mod and perhaps most don’t even play mods but they do view it as an indicator of the company’s good will toward the fans.

[Megas Methuselah]

I got back into Rise of Nations. Pretty good game.

[LordCurlyton]

That it is. Though if TW ended I'd probably curl up into a ball in a corner and whimper, since it is its own genre.

[gollum]

Originally posted by Fisherking
Sooner or later everything ends but I don’t think it is time for TW to go the way of the passenger pidgin just yet.

I agree with you - why stop when they have a few more million dollar profits in them yet? everything in good time...

[Mailman653]

Well, there was that survey they had over a year ago, what would a future TW title would be set in. It included some future setting, WWI, Greece and Asia.

[antisocialmunky]

CiV 5 is coming out. :)

[Furunculus]

i'd like another shogun total war

[gollum]

Jack Lusted has hinted that advances made in artillery modelling in ETW/NTW will be relevant for future TWs. Considering that CA must have already, at least partially been working on it, in all probability this means that WWI will be the next TW game, based most likely on the ETW/NTW engine.

[Samurai Waki]

I don't know if Id go as far as WWI I think a real empire tw is more likely, Colonial Empires all at their zenith, and rising powers such as Germany and Japan, Id be terribly disappointed if they skipped this period and went straight to ww1

[gardibolt]

As far as I'm concerned, TW has ended. Empire is literally unplayable due to freezes and crashes. So MIITW was the last of the franchise, never spending a nickel on their products again. See ya, don't let the door hit ya.

[al Roumi]

Frankly, whatever comes next from CA would do well to be detailed, pay some sort of heed to historical accuracy and of course challenging and stable.

A return to Rome would be ok, if done with a broader and deeper view of the civilisations of the time (less focus on the romanii for a start please), but I agree the the Chinese 3 kingdoms period would be very interesting -mostly because i know very little about it. Sengoku Jidai might offer CA a more manageable chance to reclaim some of their kudos if they were to do it again in style (they shouldn't have to do much more research on the period for one).

[The Stranger]

i dont see why they can't make a WW1 total war...

[Meneldil]

Because the whole trench warfare idea doesn't work very well with the current TW engine? If a TW was set during WWI, it would have to be completely reworked from scratch.

As for myself, TW ended with RTW. I played MTW literally for hundred of hours, I tried to get interested in RTW, couldn't before EB and other mods. Same for M2TW, and unfortunately, ETW doesn't allow mod anyway.

[Royce]

You might see Total War Battle of the Blue & the Grey (American Civil War). Spanish American war maybe, just a couple of thoughts.

[Royce]

I'm with you I think a remake of shogun TW with the way forts and castles are able to be attacked and defended would be awsome. Shogun TW was bad when it came to defending a Castle. Great Idea!

[The Stranger]

Because the whole trench warfare idea doesn't work very well with the current TW engine? If a TW was set during WWI, it would have to be completely reworked from scratch.

As for myself, TW ended with RTW. I played MTW literally for hundred of hours, I tried to get interested in RTW, couldn't before EB and other mods. Same for M2TW, and unfortunately, ETW doesn't allow mod anyway.

i think you are right there though... RTW was the last great game. I enjoy NTW but i bought it for almost nothing... its fun (maybe im less critical cause i never played ETW) but there is little replayability, little variaty on the map and on the battlefield. and diplomacy is kinda impossible. but then again its been a while since i played a seriously good game... i think Company of Heroes was the last one... and now i cant even play that because of stupid internet registration and stuff... so im stuck playing the oldies, CoD2, AoE3, CoH singleplayer, MTW1, RTW and ofcourse FM2007 haha

[The Stranger]

Frankly, whatever comes next from CA would do well to be detailed, pay some sort of heed to historical accuracy and of course challenging and stable.
.

the historicall accuracy in ntw i think is better than it has been since mtw. atleast there are no real fantasy units (apart from maybe ski troops), and the backup info is atleast moderately detailed and worth the read.

[Prussian to the Iron]

im hoping for a new rome or shogun, especially since i never played shogun. if not, ill probly just ditch RTS and buy the new Mount and Blade, then see if my computer can run Crysis.

[Centurion1]

ive been playing alot of aoe2 lately. love that game so much.

I was always a rtw fan. Never really played the others but i could spend hours playing that game. Still do actually im even relatively happy with vanilla. what was best was how easy modding was. Wanna make the roman factions have a starting civil war, no problem, wanna have carthage start in Britian, simple. Want to make the seleucids actually survive? well that was impossible but you get what im saying.

[Galain_Ironhide]

To echo a lot of others thoughts, I think Shogun 2 is practical, moreover anything else. It was the flagship game that started it all and giving it some new life would hopefully see a lot of people return to the TW series.

Mind you thats if CA don't pee everyone off with day zero bugs and crappy ai that they have been prone to release.

[Graphic]

Mind you thats if CA don't pee everyone off with day zero bugs and crappy ai that they have been prone to release.

NTW is the least buggy TW at 1.0 in the series' history, at least since Rome (admittedly I'm fuzzy on STW and MTW).

Anyways, I hope they go deeper into the 19th century. Franco-Prussian War, Crimean War, American Civil War, Mexican-American War, Japan opening up, Rush for Africa, etc. Lots and lots there to cover.

[M to the A]

A total war that starts in 500BC and ends in 1900 or so

[TenkiWarPRIEST]

A total war that begins with Dinosaurs and ends with meteor impact.

[Cute Wolf]

alien invason total war? :clown:

[Skullheadhq]

Frederick II: Total War?

[plutoboyz]

There are many place that haven't touched by CA. like Paleolithic:Total War, Africa:Total War, India:Total War, Nomad:Total War, Polynesian: Total War, Nusantara:Total War :clown:

[Hannibal Khan the Great]

Nomad:Total War

FTW! I actually made a nice constructive rant about that in a TWC thread....

[rvg]

Hello Kitty: Total War.

Doesn't matter all that much as far as which setting they pick. If the gameplay is good, people will appreciate it.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Sooner or later everything ends but I don’t think it is time for TW to go the way of the passenger pidgin just yet.

In a month or two we may even know what the Next Total War will be.

I am betting on Rome II Total War...that seems safe enough.

They, and by extension Sega, have a significant portion of their hardcore fan base ticked off at the moment, with what the fans view as broken promises and substandard product.

If I were them I would be looking for ways to reverse that, at least to some extent.

It is just my thoughts but what would make the largest number of dissidents happy would be mod tools and showing further support of the mod community.

Most people don’t mod and perhaps most don’t even play mods but they do view it as an indicator of the company’s good will toward the fans.

There is RTW2 already and it's called Europa Barbarorum.. :tongue:

But seriously, I wouldn't mind a RTW2 from CA if it would be a bit more historically accurate than RTW.

[neoiq5719]

There is RTW2 already and it's called Europa Barbarorum.. :tongue:

But seriously, I wouldn't mind a RTW2 from CA if it would be a bit more historically accurate than RTW.

We can expect to see a R"3"TW much sooner than a EBII

[totalwarfreak]

I would be disappointed if TW ended but I would take a look at the competitor if there was one but right now I'll think positive.

[unseendeath]

I wonder if they will have a modern warfare total set in WWII or even present day?

[edyzmedieval]

With S2TW on hand, and some great online memories, I wouldn't want Total War to ever end... :yes:

[Bavaria]

With S2TW on hand, and some great online memories, I wouldn't want Total War to ever end... :yes:

That is how I feel. It is a great game series.

If it ended now, I think the strategy game field will never be the same.

[Rowanda Gaming]

Total War just needs to create a game based in like World War II or World War I era. Or Space Age. Or Mythology. That would be pretty cool.

[Noncommunist]

A couple people have mentioned the American Civil War and then it was disparaged for only having 2 sides. However, what if the whole continent was involved in the game? Within the Civil War, many tribes were sorting out which side to support. If there were some amount of division by state, maintaining the loyalty of different states could be an integral part of the game. Britain could have also been conceivably involved and traded with both sides to some degree. Russia also sent some Monitors over expressing some support of the Union. Meanwhile, just to the south, Mexico just finished a civil war of their own and was promptly invaded by France which eventually involved Cinco de Mayo among other things. And Spain briefly reabsorbed the Dominican Republic. So it seems there are enough other players to keep it interesting.

[Fisherking]

Britain and France could have intervened, The Union reached out to Mexico. Almost all of the western Indian tribes rebelled at their treatment and went to war. Russia in 1863 threatened to go to war should Britain or France enter hostilities. Other States and localities had threatened secession, including New York City. It is not a matter of having too few factions. It would be tying them in, in some coherent fashion.

[PikeStance]

I personally would like to see a Total War: China. A lot of great time periods.
The American Civil War would be great, if only if, they work on the BAI. Otherwise, it will have limited play-ability.

[Lizardo]

where phoenicians were setting up colonies the sea peoples collapse of ancient greece cavalry used in warfare by scythians in 9th century BC cimmerians etc.??

[edyzmedieval]

6 years old thread... but given that we're in the Empire Total War forum, an ETW2 would actually be worthwhile. Huge empires and huge battles. :yes:

[lizardo2]

There needs to be a competitor to totla war