Factions with xp bonus temples

[Zim]

One thing that tends to get brought up in threads about the Sweboz is the usefulness of their xp increasing temples. It's mentioned in connection with them so often I wasn't aware some other factions (at least one anyway) have them as well. Just conquered Patavium in a Sweboz game and noticed it had a Roman temple with +2 xp and +2 or so morale.

Does anyone know of any other factions with temples with similar bonuses?

[athanaric]

Getai have a Temple of Ares, which grants +1 exp at the highest level, in addition to 15% law bonus (most IMBA faction evar).

IIRC two or three other factions have it, too. Some factions have an exp bonus included in some government types (Swêboz, Getai, Baktria), usually type 2 or 3 (though in the case of Baktria, it is type 1!!!).

The Swêboz temple is the one of Deiwoz, or Tyr. Combined with type 3 government and Field of Games you can crank out veteran troops with 4 chevrons.

Look out for wonders with exp boni. They are rare, but the Kogaionon for example gives the Getai 1 free point of exp (as if the buggers needed it - they got the best morale values anyway).

[Zim]

Thanks. I didn't know there was a temple other than Deiwoz for the Sweboz that added xp.

I guess for Baktria the bonus for a type 1 would be offset a bit by how few homeland territories they'd be likely to have.

So at the very least we have the Sweboz, Romani, and Getai with xp increasing temples.

[Andronikos]

Hellenic factions have their Gymnasiums which increase xp.

[Tristuskhan]

Temple of Vertaghnaga (gah!) for Pahlava

[athanaric]

I guess for Baktria the bonus for a type 1 would be offset a bit by how few homeland territories they'd be likely to have.

They have at least eight homeland provinces, which is quite good - better than most factions, in actually.

Both Gallic faction have the Temple of Teutates (same as the Getai one for Ares), which also gives +1 exp, and 20% law (wow - forgot about that one).
Qart Hadast and Baktria idem, although they don't get the law bonus (har har).
Pontos gets +1 exp from the Seleukid Atargatis Temple (which they can't build themselves) on level 1 already (this is madness).
Hayasdan has this for the Temple of Anahita, though only on the highest level.
Sauromatae get +1 exp from the Temple of the Sword.
Swêboz get +3 exp (!!!) from the lvl 3 Temple of Nerthuz (with other factions: Dionysos, Sucellos, Vesta, Nabia, Mên, Cernunnos, Sword, ...), which they can't build themselves.

The Temple of Deiwoz is the only "regular" one though with +2 exp.

[Salahedin]

AFAIK Romani don't have xp bonus except from type IV gov. That's why I modded the buidings to give them a few.

[NikosMaximilian]

For the Saka the combination of:

-Field of Games
-Hunting Grounds
-Altar of Haoma

in the same settlement gives the troops trained there +3 experience, which I guess makes up for the lack of improved armour until you reach an Indian/Greek city.

[Zim]

They have at least eight homeland provinces, which is quite good - better than most factions, in actually.



Hmm, I would have guessed they had less. That's what I get for not playing that far in the east enough.


AFAIK Romani don't have xp bonus except from type IV gov. That's why I modded the buidings to give them a few.

When i conquered Patavium it had a Roman Culture Temple with +2 xp, +2 morale.

[Hax]

The combination of a gymnasion and a type III government as the Seleucids give your soldiers a +2 exp bonus.

[Salahedin]

When i conquered Patavium it had a Roman Culture Temple with +2 xp, +2 morale.

well that's weird because as I am playing a roman campaign at the moment, I am pretty sure it is impossible to build temples (neither other buildings) with xp bonus. Even Mars gives only morale bonus. Maybe you're using some mod that changed that (as I did myself)

[athanaric]

No, the Roman temple in his game gives an exp bonus to Swêboz, not to Romani. You can look up this stuff in the EDB. The same temple building can have very different effects for different factions.

[Zim]

That's probably it, then. Here's the temple in question. I had the city wrong, it's Mediolanum. The temple in Patavium doesn't give me any bonus at all.

If the morale bonuses were working properly this would be a great temple for the Sweboz (and it's still pretty good).

https://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2293/rometwbi201001182023005.jpg (https://img195.imageshack.us/i/rometwbi201001182023005.jpg/)


No, the Roman temple in his game gives an exp bonus to Swêboz, not to Romani. You can look up this stuff in the EDB. The same temple building can have very different effects for different factions.

[Salahedin]

good point : it is in fact the same temple of battle with a different faction name. So everybody was right ^^

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

The combination of a gymnasion and a type III government as the Seleucids give your soldiers a +2 exp bonus.

Type 1 gov also gives 1 exp for AS

[Macilrille]

The Temple of Minerva gives no bonus to Sweboz? i just took an Awesome one in Massilia and there is just the

[athanaric]

The Temple of Minerva gives no bonus to Sweboz? i just took an Awesome one in Massilia and there is just the

Swêboz only receive boni from the first three levels of temples, same as Nomads. Anything bigger than that has to be demolished and "re-built".

[bobbin]

When playing the Getai: Kogaionon + Game Feild + Temple of Ares + Type 2 or 3 gov = +4xp

I think thats the highest you can get in the game (maybe the Sweboz can get that too but I'm not sure), I know Baktria can get +3xp as well.

[Zim]

Sweboz can get +4 as well, although I'd be much more afraid of +4 Getai units. :help:

[Drewski]

When playing the Getai: Kogaionon + Game Feild + Temple of Ares + Type 2 or 3 gov = +4xp

I think thats the highest you can get in the game (maybe the Sweboz can get that too but I'm not sure), I know Baktria can get +3xp as well.

I got 5xp troops out of Camolodunum(spelling?), the Casse capital when I captured it as Sweboz.

Their build tree allows them to go one higher in temples (Lv 4 as opposed to Sweboz max lvl 3), and this already built "military" lvl 4 temple gave 3xp, the Gov gave +1 and the game field +1 for double silver chevron freshly trained troops, which is a bit silly if you ask me....:inquisitive:

The Sweboz really are the ultimate barbarian faction though, their build tree runs out in about 30 yrs from start to finish, they need something I suppose.

EDIT: I was getting Teceitos (Celtic Axeman) who trained there with a blacksmith, start out with a 15 attack, Ap main weapon (.165 Lethality) and total 26 Melee Defence, and only 1148 Cost, and 287 upkeep. An army of those, will just eat a legion for breakfast without breaking sweat.

[Cute Wolf]

Personally, I always think any experience bonus more than 1 is too much...but I still love retraining my units there....

[Olaf The Great]

Sweboz can get +4 as well, although I'd be much more afraid of +4 Getai units. :help:I think there's a wonder in the Lugii settlement or somewhere abouts that allows +5 for Sweboz

[Macilrille]

Swêboz only receive boni from the first three levels of temples, same as Nomads. Anything bigger than that has to be demolished and "re-built".

As I suspected, I just love demolishing "Civilised" buildings. Almost as much as slaughtering weak Gauls.

[Ludens]

The Temple of Minerva gives no bonus to Sweboz? i just took an Awesome one in Massilia and there is just the

Mostly faction will only receive a bonus from those temple buildings they can construct themselves. There are a couple of exceptions, but don't ask me why. You can find them in my Temple guide (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=96629) (AFAIK there have been no changes to the temples in 1.2, so it should be up to date).

[Macilrille]

Mostly faction will only receive a bonus from those temple buildings they can construct themselves. There are a couple of exceptions, but don't ask me why. You can find them in my Temple guide (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=96629) (AFAIK there have been no changes to the temples in 1.2, so it should be up to date).

I know Ludens, I use your guide a lot, but if I could take the equivalent of a Awesome temple of Tyr and churn out 5 XP units by taking an awesome temple of Minerva I definately would.