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Celtic_Punk

01-24-2010, 21:59

For those who've signed up already this is where you post to make sure that youre here and good to go for the game start this week. those who've not signed up, you still can!

Accounted for:
Molinaargh
Bean
Hotseat user
hun general
celtic viking
MerlinusCDXX
Kingsnake
Shylence

Unaccounted for:
the man with no name (how mysterious hes unaccounted for lmaoo)

Answer to your questions about avatars? I have not been given the avatars yet. Waitin on that CDF!

Molinaargh

01-24-2010, 23:12

Even though I'll only be contributing without playing I might as well confirm my presence. I'll be around! :2thumbsup:

Edit:

I do hope you contribute Roleplaying wise in the King's court and such.
Indeed! :yes:

Celtic_Punk

01-25-2010, 01:36

I do hope you contribute Roleplaying wise in the King's court and such.

/Bean\

01-25-2010, 01:56

Isn't this thread supposed to contain the characters possible? Otherwise how is it different to the other one?

I'm here by the way :2thumbsup:

Hotseat_User

01-25-2010, 09:20

I'm here by the way :2thumbsup:

I'll second that :yes:

HunGeneral

01-25-2010, 11:58

I'm here aswell(although I might not be able to get at my computer until wendesday...)

The Celtic Viking

01-25-2010, 12:28

Ecce Homo.

Isn't this thread supposed to contain the characters possible? Otherwise how is it different to the other one?

Yeah... I agree. Where are they, CP?

MerlinusCDXX

01-25-2010, 20:38

Present, still in.

kingsnake

01-27-2010, 12:14

I am having troubles installing EB... does it have any problem with Win7?
It installs but when i click the exe it starts up the original Rome TW game -_-

Celtic_Punk

01-27-2010, 12:49

Are you sure you've got a correct shortcut with proper target?

/Bean\

01-27-2010, 13:30

Its not a f(a)ult with Win7-I've got it. It will be a problem with the shortcut, and if you can't figure it out a quick reinstall will do the trick.

kingsnake

01-27-2010, 15:55

Reinstalls don't work either. I'll check the target. What about those extra installs (EB trivial script/ unit documentation) I remembered they weren't necessary in the past, or am I mistaken?

The Celtic Viking

01-27-2010, 16:08

Its not a f(a)ult with Win7-I've got it. It will be a problem with the shortcut, and if you can't figure it out a quick reinstall will do the trick.

Please don't do that again. I've been doing so much math these past few days it really threw me off to read that. :shame:

Reinstalls don't work either. I'll check the target. What about those extra installs (EB trivial script/ unit documentation) I remembered they weren't necessary in the past, or am I mistaken?

No, you're right. They aren't necessary.

Shylence

01-27-2010, 17:22

Ok, sorry, I am here. Weekend of booze and then college. Signing up.

/Bean\

01-27-2010, 20:38

Please don't do that again. I've been doing so much math these past few days it really threw me off to read that. :shame:

Hehehe, my bad, mate. I just missed out the a when I posted it so it made me look like a complete spelling retard. I promise I won't do it again, sir...

Cultured Drizzt fan

01-30-2010, 01:36

Gah, Guys I have had a long week. I promise I will recruit the RBG's soon. (still have not changed the mod TCV, will get on that..... :sweatdrop:)

Celtic_Punk

01-30-2010, 02:58

To all interested. I apologize for the length waits. We've had some problems with the mod being able to recruit RGB's. Thank you for your patience, and continuing to bear with us. This shall be a reality, I assure you all! :)

johnhughthom

01-31-2010, 19:29

Count me in.

/Bean\

01-31-2010, 20:08

Haha, I got really excited when I saw there had been a new post...

johnhughthom

01-31-2010, 20:50

Well I'm so sorry to disappint you Bean. :cry:

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-01-2010, 21:35

Alright, once again sorry for the wait guys, Life has been coming down hard on me. I think I might be able to get the RBG's today, if not then there is something wrong with my install.

The mod has been acting quirky for those interested, have not been able to get the generals to 0 turn recruitment.

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-02-2010, 02:38

OK..... I got nothing. Anyone able to help out?

/Bean\

02-02-2010, 09:03

Regretiably not. Me and modding...we just don't click

johnhughthom

02-02-2010, 10:30

I've done a bt of modding, changing traits and general units. Nothing big though.

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-03-2010, 01:56

Alright then! TCV, could you show everyone the mod? If they have a look and see if they can recruit RBG's for 0 turn recruitment we know something is wrong with my install.

The Celtic Viking

02-03-2010, 09:30

I might have found the problem here, CDf. Do you start the game using the trivial script? If you do, then the edu that I supplied you with would automatically be switched to the original one, without the changes I made to it. This seems probable because the edb I sent you obviously works, but you still seem to have the original edu.

What you should do is to install my mod again (I assume you haven't deleted it?), manually create a shortcut to the rtw.exe, right click that shortcut and choose properties. In the target area, add "-mod:eb -show_err -nm" at the end. Then start EB up with that shortcut.

Alternatively, make a copy of the edu from my mod, and put it in the where-you-installed-rtw\EB\sp game edu backup too.

Or, as a third alternative, just download and extract the mod from the link below, in which I've tried to guard against this.

Then it must work.

You can get the new version here (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=40H58ECP). Just extract it to your RTW folder. (For example, "C:\Games\Activision\Rome - Total War".)

Ibn-Khaldun

02-04-2010, 21:33

Good luck with the game! :bow:

The Celtic Viking

02-05-2010, 20:42

Thank you. Remind me: why won't you play?

Ibn-Khaldun

02-06-2010, 00:37

My RL is currently too busy and I don't have time for much else.

TinCow

02-06-2010, 17:28

Ibn-Khaldun has been removed as a forum leader. The Celtic Viking and Celtic_Punk have been added as forum leaders.

Hotseat_User

02-07-2010, 11:18

hey guys - just want to say that I'm around here every now and then - pm me if you've done the trick. As for modding, I can just change factioncolors. anyone? <(o_O;)>

The Celtic Viking

02-07-2010, 12:11

My RL is currently too busy and I don't have time for much else.

Oh. Right. Damn that reality for always intruding on our private lives!

hey guys - just want to say that I'm around here every now and then - pm me if you've done the trick. As for modding, I can just change factioncolors. anyone? <(o_O;)>

Could you try downloading and installing the mod I provided a few posts up and see if it works as it should? I'll throw CDf a PM and ask him what's what, but in the meantime, someone testing it to see if it works might save us some time. As should be clear, I have the mod working perfectly for myself, so it's not a problem of "how do we do this", but "how do we make this work for others". I'm pretty sure I've solved this with the latest version, but I would like to have this confirmed or denied as soon as possible, so I can correct any mistakes left there, if there are any.

Ibn-Khaldun has been removed as a forum leader. The Celtic Viking and Celtic_Punk have been added as forum leaders.

Oh, neeto. I promise my reign of terr... "leadership" will be fair and balanced. He he he.

Celtic_Punk

02-07-2010, 12:25

All those interested please download the mod, and try it out. we will be able to see if this is an isolated error, or if it is indeed a wide bug of some kind. This will speed the process up very much. Then Iwill be able to stop pulling my hair out, and start looking for a tupee

@ TCV

yer a joint regent! watch it! we still bow down to the Gods of moderation. All hail King of the LOOOSERS! :P

/Bean\

02-07-2010, 13:01

I love AoE taunts...

I've been stuck doing shedloads of coursework recently, but if I can find some free time I'll download the mod. What are we looking for again? (I cba to go back to page 1 and read...)

The Celtic Viking

02-07-2010, 14:22

@ CP, all your base are belong to us.

@ Bean, you should check if generals can be recruited, cost 1 mnai to raise, 0 mnai upkeep and that they have 0 recruitment time. Just to guard against a possible misunderstanding, 0 recruitment time means that all generals in the queue will be there next turn, not instantaneous creation. Kind of like retraining a unit that isn't there from the beginning.

/Bean\

02-07-2010, 17:12

Schmokey dokey, I'll see if I can find time tonight. Still got lots of coursework to do today, and besides, its Chelsea vs. Arsenal soon :D

johnhughthom

02-07-2010, 19:27

Everything seems ok to me, choice of Brihentin and Celtic Lesser King for bodyguard.

The Celtic Viking

02-07-2010, 22:49

Great. If CDf hasn't raised the generals and uploaded the mugshots by the time I get home tomorrow, I'll do so myself. Lets get this thing rolling.

Cheers.

The Celtic Viking

02-08-2010, 21:12

Okay guys, here are the available generals you can choose from. I say we choose in the order that we confirmed ourselves in this thread - I shall also send a PM to all who has to make sure no one misses this. Anyway...

Verrix
Aneirin oi Lugos (The Celtic Viking)
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115364

Family Members
Adcobrovatos oi Lugos (Celtic_Punk)
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115365
Amminos oi Lugos (MerlinusCDXX)
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115368
Belenos oi Lugos (Hotseat_User)
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115369

RGBs (Brihentin)
Acco moc Vindomorucios
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115370
Boduognatos moc Andecomboglos
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115371
Iccios moc Brycham
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115372
Kondomos moc Dennoros
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115373
Lannildot moc Baeren
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115374
Maglocurios moc Divicoi (HunGeneral)
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115375
Prasutagos moc Custennyn
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115377
Teutomatos moc Vertico (/Bean\)
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115378
Tincommios moc Budic (Shylence)
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115379
Vindex moc Boduognatos
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115380

RGBs (Vollorix)
Caradog moc Galba (johnhughthom)
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115381
Dejotaros moc Praesutagos (Cultured Drizzt fan)
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115382

Messianuroc moc Cacumattos
http://www.junsele.com/viewpic.asp?id=115376

johnhughthom

02-08-2010, 22:06

I know I'm last in the queue but I'll take Caradog moc Galba if nobody picks him first.

MerlinusCDXX

02-08-2010, 23:51

I'll take Amminos oi Lugos, joining the Arverni (Gergovian) tribe.

Celtic_Punk

02-09-2010, 00:40

since it is my perogative as a GM, I'll go 2nd.

Adcobrovatos oi Lugos

HunGeneral

02-09-2010, 00:57

Since I'm would like to play a second or third line charater I will choose Maglocunos moc Divicoi if no one before picks him. - that would automatically trow me among the Sequiani I guess.

(Haven't had the time to re-install EB and try the Mod - I will if Ihave time again.)

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-09-2010, 01:34

Belenos oi Lugos would be my first personal choice. :yes:

/Bean\

02-09-2010, 01:50

Teutomatos moc Vertico pleasums

Hotseat_User

02-09-2010, 10:24

I second Belenos oi Lugos, as earlyer stated. Osi tribe - to what "faction" would he belond? I guess Averni since he's son of the king? but gggrrrr CDF was faster. I'll have a look at the rest.

*edit* man - can't we create a nother Osi guy? just the pal of Lugos?

Okay, Belenos oi Lugos firstchoice - if I have a vote before CDF - and secondchoice would be Teutomatos moc Vertico - third would be the firstborn of Belenos.

Hotseat_User

02-09-2010, 10:52

Could you try downloading and installing the mod I provided a few posts up and see if it works as it should? I'll throw CDf a PM and ask him what's what, but in the meantime, someone testing it to see if it works might save us some time. As should be clear, I have the mod working perfectly for myself, so it's not a problem of "how do we do this", but "how do we make this work for others". I'm pretty sure I've solved this with the latest version, but I would like to have this confirmed or denied as soon as possible, so I can correct any mistakes left there, if there are any.

Seems to work for me - or should i test some more rounds? Since I just hit the button one time.

johnhughthom

02-09-2010, 13:53

Seems to work for me - or should i test some more rounds? Since I just hit the button one time.

I think the main thing is to check that the 1 recruit, 0 upkeep bodyguard recruitment works.

Shylence

02-09-2010, 14:31

Hello, can I be Tincommios moc Budic please? Cheers.

The Celtic Viking

02-09-2010, 18:47

I second Belenos oi Lugos, as earlyer stated. Osi tribe - to what "faction" would he belond? I guess Averni since he's son of the king? but gggrrrr CDF was faster. I'll have a look at the rest.

Okay, Belenos oi Lugos firstchoice - if I have a vote before CDF - and secondchoice would be Teutomatos moc Vertico - third would be the firstborn of Belenos.

Since you confirmed yourself in this thread before CDf did, your choice comes first. Belenos is yours. CDF, you'll have to choose another guy, I'm afraid.

As for the tribe, it would make sense if the player controlling him was of the Arverni tribe, yes, but it's nothing that will be forced. So long as each tribe has enough players, everyone will get to choose whatever tribe they want, regardless of what tribe their avatar belongs to through traits.

*edit* man - can't we create a nother Osi guy? just the pal of Lugos?

There's no (reasonable) way for us to decide what tribe a RGB will belong to, and it might not even be possible to get any Osi one from the settlements we currently own. If it is, we could try creating lots more RGBs and hope that at least one of them is an Osi, but that would mean that he would at best come into play a round later than the rest of us. (This wouldn't mean you'd have to, if you get my meaning.)

But, since Belenos is yours, I don't suppose this matters anyway, does it?

Seems to work for me - or should i test some more rounds? Since I just hit the button one time.

No, thank you, that won't be necessary. We can conclude that the mod works, that it should work for CDf too, and that if it still doesn't, then it's on CDf's side, and not the mod/mine. But, as I said, it should work.

Hotseat_User

02-09-2010, 19:16

There's no (reasonable) way for us to decide what tribe a RGB will belong to, and it might not even be possible to get any Osi one from the settlements we currently own. If it is, we could try creating lots more RGBs and hope that at least one of them is an Osi, but that would mean that he would at best come into play a round later than the rest of us. But, since Belenos is yours, I don't suppose this matters anyway, does it?

uhhm I think one need Tylis/Nicaia/Ankyra to get the Osi guys. and then only with 0.125 chances... I think. Kinda hard. 'Cause of this I can't really understand why he's in the familytree. Adopted?

and ... *edit* shouldn't we just renew the thread in the main forum so people who thought about joining are remembered? there were some more in the first sign up. Or will the non selected RGBs be killed? maybe let two or three - guess one for each tribe alone - played by TCV - just if someone like to join later?

Celtic_Punk

02-09-2010, 20:29

we can always recruit more. Plus my brother may want to join :P

Hotseat_User

02-09-2010, 20:47

I thought you train him with vanilla? Wait - I'll ask my dad.

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-09-2010, 22:59

Since you confirmed yourself in this thread before CDf did, your choice comes first. Belenos is yours. CDF, you'll have to choose another guy, I'm afraid.

Thats fine.

hhhmmmmm....... Let me think on it.

The Celtic Viking

02-09-2010, 23:42

Hotseat_User

02-10-2010, 08:32

the king will not be the king :clown: ??? Tinco is kinda ... well. But in my campaigns those supposed to be bad guys turn into real monsters - of the opposite.

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-10-2010, 12:06

CDf, may I suggest you take Aneirin oi Lugos... the Verrix? Someone experienced should take this position, and I'd like to play as Tincommios moc Budic. I suppose if no one takes him, I could play as good ol' Aneirin till he dies, and then switch to Tinc, but I'd prefer to just start as him.

Sure, I am up for that I guess.

For some reason I kept thinking you would be taking the Verrix :tongue:. Guess its just past experiance coloring my judgement.

Celtic_Punk

02-10-2010, 13:05

would have to agree with you. All my visions of this game were of TCV starting off with the King.. methinks hes setting himself up for a longer reign of terror.

johnhughthom

02-10-2010, 13:54

An EB PBM without a TCV tyrant??? Madness!

Hotseat_User

02-10-2010, 15:41

he tends to be tyrannic? omg - I bow before the new Verrix CDF :clown:

The Celtic Viking

02-10-2010, 16:09

:laugh4:

Hey, the way you keep talking, I might even take Aneirin after all. (Wouldn't that be evil, CDf? Forcing you to choose a new character twice - especially after suggesting you one. ~;p)

he tends to be tyrannic? omg - I bow before the new Verrix CDF

Well... yes, and mind you, that was true even before my character started seeing himself as a god. Imagine this time around when I would be a god in the eyes of the law...

Celtic_Punk

02-10-2010, 18:48

An EB PBM without a TCV tyrant??? Madness!

MADDNESS?! THIS IS... GAAAAAAUL!!!!!!! *boots TCV down a well*

/Bean\

02-10-2010, 20:48

Oh it was a Well! I always wondered...

The Celtic Viking

02-11-2010, 13:55

While updating the list to show the taken ones, I noticed that Tinc was taken by Shylence. Because my (small but no less annoying) altruistic side is peaking out for its moment of sunlight, I will let him have the guy. Shame, but so be it.

I'm thinking Iccios or Dejotaros if CDf still wants Aneirin.

Shylence

02-11-2010, 18:13

You can have it if you want, mate. I'm new to this so I would prefere to be in a lower ranked placedso i can learn the trade of leading the tribe :D

Hotseat_User

02-11-2010, 18:31

well shylence - I'm new to it too. Don't mind. I guess if have a little knowledge to the celtic factions, everything will be good. If TCV can play those insanitys - I for myself can play mismanaging :clown:

other question: as current govenor of the viennos province - I think I'm more related to the Tribe there than to my fathers? Or somewhere between those relations? We will see... defenitly looking forward to this.

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-11-2010, 21:50

Ok, now I need another choice :tongue:

I know how much we all love having tcv as king, so I am willing to take a third pick.

:sweatdrop: please let this one stick people.

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-11-2010, 22:00

I'll take Dejotaros moc Praesutagos

Traits remind me a bit of Patrokles. I seem doomed to always have to deal with the "gloomy" trait.

johnhughthom

02-11-2010, 22:03

Not if you don't march him too hard.

The Celtic Viking

02-12-2010, 15:52

You can have it if you want, mate. I'm new to this so I would prefere to be in a lower ranked placedso i can learn the trade of leading the tribe :D

Nah, on popular request I've taken Aneirin instead. Oh, and listen to Hotseat: don't worry about being new. In fact, your wish to be of a lower rank is good, and more than welcome, since it would be a little pointless if everyone was at the highest level. This was a bigger problem in BtSH than WoTB, though, as I recall.

But never mind that. I'll stop yapping and just update the list. :lipsrsealed2:

johnhughthom

02-13-2010, 05:08

Who are we waiting on? Just themanwithnoname (From profile: Last Activity 05/02/10 05:19)? He's the kid who comments on AARs a lot isn't he? Seems to come and go with long gaps from what I remember, how long should we wait for him?

The Celtic Viking

02-13-2010, 09:30

Right now, we're actually waiting for CP. He's out on manoeuvres for the weekend, but when he comes back, we start.

/Bean\

02-13-2010, 11:34

Ooh we're starting in Half Term, like it.

/Bean\

02-15-2010, 09:07

ITS MONDAY!

Hotseat_User

02-15-2010, 18:37

uhhhm guys - just a short question for the 1.1 version: which fixes to get? can anyone explain because I haven't done any fixes for 1.1 and the 1.1fixes thread has so many different permanent and inpermanent fixes.

The Celtic Viking

02-15-2010, 20:13

The Celtic Viking

02-15-2010, 20:14

Celtic_Punk

02-15-2010, 21:35

i feel like every single bone is busted and every muscle is mush. lets do this

johnhughthom

02-15-2010, 23:34

How would people feel about me doing an AAR of my character in the game for the main EB section? It would be a good way to promote the game and keep it in the spotlight without spamming the EB forum. I would still keep active here, only battle writeups would be expanded upon with extra screenshots, and anything involving other players characters would simply be copy-pasted (with the relevant players permission of course).

HunGeneral

02-16-2010, 00:56

The AAR idea sounds good if you ask me - maybe we can get some enthusiasts ti join...

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-16-2010, 00:57

sounds like a good idea. :yes:

/Bean\

02-16-2010, 01:54

Are we roleplaying our characters how we want, or are we sticking to the traits they have? Just to clear this up straight away...

johnhughthom

02-16-2010, 01:55

I plan to roleplay my traits, if other people want to ignore traits that's up to them in my view, won't affect the game for me.

/Bean\

02-16-2010, 01:58

I've always played it as sticking mainly to the traits, but how we interprate them. For instance, 'Loyal' may not always be specifically to the king, etc...

johnhughthom

02-16-2010, 02:08

Hotseat_User

02-16-2010, 08:02

thank you TCV.

*edit* okay all fixes are ready. My buddy of old times is sharpening all his weapons for the next raid.

The Celtic Viking

02-16-2010, 15:38

Indeed, many traits are a matter of interpretation and that interpretation is up to the player. For instance a loyal character may not have sworn allegiance to the King, and would not see rebellion as a disloyal act.

Of course, being loyal doesn't mean that you're loyal no matter what, either. Even I can resort to some less-than-loyal actions, if pushed enough. It's all a matter of degree; some are more easily drawn to disloyal acts, while others require a little more motivation first. That's how I view the loyal/disloyal trait: an indication of which side the guy's leaning towards, but by no means an untouchable constant.

johnhughthom

02-16-2010, 17:32

Hotseat User has asked if he can post in my AAR and I have no problem with it, does anybody else want to take part? I could ask a mod to change the name. I considered asking if anybody wanted to do it with me before posting my intro but thought it would just be a rehash of the main forum if we did. My plan was just a small scale affair to give people a small taste of what EB PBMs are about, with links to the main thread to read the real thing.

/Bean\

02-16-2010, 18:09

Might have to do guest appearances, t'would be a good idea

Hotseat_User

02-16-2010, 19:24

uhhm has anybody an idea why Belenos has the oiLugos name of the Averni-Verrix-family and is of 'Osi' orgin? Is he adopted? or should i ask a Averni-team-member? just to get some story behind him for the start.

and fouthermore... he is govenor of Viennos at gamestart - can I count that as given office by the tribes of that region? I think that's a point we have to discuss.

*edit* hehe just checked the list. only the char of Shylence is from the Allobrogne/Caturige tribes ... and as my guy is current Vollorix of these tribes - unknown for what matter - he has a good chance of holding this position. NICE. :clown: anyway back to topic. when will we start? :applause:

The Celtic Viking

02-16-2010, 19:48

uhhm has anybody an idea why Belenos has the oiLugos name of the Averni-Verrix-family and is of 'Osi' orgin? Is he adopted? or should i ask a Averni-team-member? just to get some story behind him for the start.

I don't know, either. Sounds like adoption, but that's a deaf man's guess.

and fouthermore... he is govenor of Viennos at gamestart - can I count that as given office by the tribes of that region? I think that's a point we have to discuss.

Not automatically, no. The tribe that owns Viennos will first decide who of them will be the Vollorix, and then make up their own ranks within that tribe - as well as who governs that settlement, and how you'll decide who will govern any other settlements you might later acquire.

*edit* hehe just checked the list. only the char of Shylence is from the Allobrogne/Caturige tribes ... and as my guy is current Vollorix of these tribes - unknown for what matter - he has a good chance of holding this position. NICE. :clown: anyway back to topic. when will we start? :applause:

As I said above, no Vollorix has been decided at this moment; actually, besides the Verrix and Vollorix of the Arverni tribe (me! :beam:), no position has been decided yet.

Which reminds me: we should divide people up in tribes now. Give me a second and I will do it.

The Celtic Viking

02-16-2010, 19:58

Here are the tribes. Since the only one who requested a specific tribe was Merlinus, all requests were granted. ~;p

Arverni (Gergovia)
Verrix: The Celtic Viking
MerlinusCDXX
HunGeneral

Sequani (Vesontio)
Vollorix: ?
Celtic_Punk
Cultured Drizzt fan
Shylence

Allobroges (Viennos)
Vollorix: ?
Hotseat_User
/Bean\
johnhughthon

If you have any objections/opinions, speak free.

Hotseat_User

02-16-2010, 20:06

well - for the start I think it is best Belenos is counted to the Caturige/Allobrognes but isn't he out of this to some point? *he wants Osi brothers to ride with* :clap2:

The Celtic Viking

02-16-2010, 20:47

No, he's not. Regardless of his origins, he has aligned himself with the Arverni confederation (otherwise he wouldn't be there), of which the Osi do not belong, so you have to be part of one of these options. If Osi lands are later conquered, you can attempt to create a new tribe, though IMO we're too few to have more than 3 tribes. Having many with only 1-2 members is far from optimal IMO.

(Btw, don't take this post the wrong way. You can roleplay him however you want, even to the point of having him as a spy for the Osi tribe or something like that. What I'm saying is that officially he's a part of the Arverni confederacy while the Osi are not, and that's something you should adjust to.)

HunGeneral

02-16-2010, 21:14

I have no objectin with the tribe I got into. So its fine with me.

The Celtic Viking

02-16-2010, 22:33

Do you guys think 3 tribes are too many, though? I have a feeling that it is, seeing as we're only 9 players. My reasoning is that one of the central parts of the game is the competition for positions and ranks, and with only 3 people/tribe I fear there won't be much of that. If we lessened it to two tribes (preferably the Arverni and Sequani, as they were - by my understanding - the historically strongest ones) we'd have one with 5 (pref. Arverni, since they were the stronger) and the other 4.

Doing so would increase the internal competition and make tribal ranks more meaningful, which is why I personally support it - at least until we get more players.

Hotseat_User

02-17-2010, 00:14

hey, TCV the point with less tribes for more competition seems better from my point of view.

And for the Osi-thingy... Clear that he is bound to the Arverni Tribe - I just enjoyed a migration campaign to an early rebelled Ankyra around this guy so I'm kinda going with my imaginations :-) apart from that there are gamerules and his hail for the Verrix.

I think he has to find his roots for some reason but I have already two Ideas to roleplay that. ( you'll maybe get a PM for that later )

defenitly looking forward to this

johnhughthom

02-17-2010, 05:24

I agree two tribes is fine for now, could be fun for rping with the Arverni lording it over the other a la TCV in every other ga.... I mean showing the lesser tribe the majesty of their overlordship. More competition for roles is better and as the game progresses other tribes could be formed.

The Celtic Viking

02-17-2010, 21:51

So, since there's been no objection, I'll just move this on as accepted. We should alter the rules according to this, so that new Verrixes don't have to come from the Vollorixes. Or is choosing between just 2 guys fine?

Anyway, below are the new tribes. As before, state your opinion if you have one.

Arverni (Gergovia (Cap), Viennos))
Verrix: The Celtic Viking
MerlinusCDXX
HunGeneral
Hotseat_User
Shylence

Sequani (Vesontio)
Vollorix: ?
Celtic_Punk
Cultured Drizzt fan
johnhughthom
/Bean\

(I think I'm going to regret putting CP and Bean both in the other tribe if this list stands... :sweatdrop:)

johnhughthom

02-18-2010, 00:25

So are the Sequani members going to vote for their Vollorix? If so Vote: CDf

/Bean\

02-18-2010, 09:04

@TCV: Yes. Yes you are...

Voted: CDF

Hotseat_User

02-18-2010, 13:49

@ TCV - I think it's better if all members are allowed to vote the Verrix. On the other hand I think that the Volorix'es should have more impact on the decission - maybe their votes count twice?

Uhmm and I think that we should just hold elections for the crown-prince position and the Verrix should be elected for lifetime. He could abadon his duty but in that case the heir would be going to be new Verrix. This is the Arverni-faction - they elected a GOD-King so there shouldn't be a vote on his position directly. And the elections of this heir-position should be holded if say half of the Chiefs with electionrights demand it. (But also in this case - a Vollorix vote should count double.)

errr...grammar anyone.

The Celtic Viking

02-18-2010, 15:02

@ TCV - I think it's better if all members are allowed to vote the Verrix. On the other hand I think that the Volorix'es should have more impact on the decission - maybe their votes count twice?

Well, yes, it can't really just be the Vollorixes, because with only two... I do agree all should get to vote.

The Vollorixes do have more influence, though. That is already in there (see "confederate influence").

Uhmm and I think that we should just hold elections for the crown-prince position and the Verrix should be elected for lifetime. He could abadon his duty but in that case the heir would be going to be new Verrix. This is the Arverni-faction - they elected a GOD-King so there shouldn't be a vote on his position directly.

You should be careful here - god-king or not, this does not disqualify the possibility of an election. In fact, if the EB description is to be trusted, that's actually exactly what they did it. The god was revealed through the vote.

And the elections of this heir-position should be holded if say half of the Chiefs with electionrights demand it. (But also in this case - a Vollorix vote should count double.)

I'm not sure I understand what you're proposing here. Have I understood you correctly if I take this as "if half the chiefs who are eligible for the position demands that the elections be halted, they will"? If so, to what end? What purpose would doing so serve?

Hotseat_User

02-18-2010, 15:45

I'm not sure I understand what you're proposing here. Have I understood you correctly if I take this as "if half the chiefs who are eligible for the position demands that the elections be halted, they will"? If so, to what end? What purpose would doing so serve?

I think you got my point. :smile: It's kinda like as with petitions. I think it's not good if only one chief needs to ask for an election. That will happen contineously. So one should need supporters for his proposal for re-elections first.

and the god-thingy - I may misread the faction-discriptions :inquisitive:

The Celtic Viking

02-18-2010, 16:31

Oh, but the way the game is setup is that the Verrix will only be elected when the old one dies. You don't call for an election... it calls you.

(Yes, I had to use that cliché. It's in the rules.)

There are no re-elections, either. Once the Verrix is elected, he's set for life.

johnhughthom

02-18-2010, 17:13

But we can't do that within the confines of the RTW engine, unless we are ignoring the in game faction leader.

The Celtic Viking

02-18-2010, 18:14

But we can't do that within the confines of the RTW engine, unless we are ignoring the in game faction leader.

Reload, set heir, kill Verrix? That's how Ibn was going to do it, and if he can, then I will not allow CDf to fail doing the same!

But I suppose we can remove the IG FL thing, too, or hold regular votes, or do as Hotseat suggested and have elections called. If so, we'd have to set limits to that; like, only 1 election/2 regular councils, and you can only call on one vote/rule-span (i.e., if my character is the Verrix and Hotseat calls for a vote, then he has to wait for my character to die and for someone to succeed me before he can call on one again). Who can call them should be limited, too.

Edit: I might add, though, that I'm mostly in favour of just removing the IG FL thing.

Hotseat_User

02-18-2010, 18:54

The Celtic Viking

02-18-2010, 19:51

Well, if someone here knows how to do it, that would be awesome. I, myself, don't know how, and if someone else does, it has to be saved game compatible, or we'd lose all the RGBs.

Molinaargh

02-18-2010, 21:12

I won't be a general, but I guess I'll start off with the Sequani tribe since it has fewer people.

While we wait, have another warmup drawing!

https://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3549/celt14b.jpg

Portrait of Belenos oi Lugos (Hotseat_User)

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-18-2010, 21:18

Epic :yes:

Also, if we are voting towards chiefs I have to put my own vote towards CP :yes:

Ibn-Khaldun

02-18-2010, 21:29

InGame FactionLeader right? I think it's the easiest way, too. Can we then - as Leader and Heir are given bonus traits ingame - implement some trait-thingy or a retinue for the Vollorixes and so? But to be honest - I've no plan how to do it as you may know.

Trait is better option since these can be removed but ancillaries/retinues can't.
Ancillaries can be moved from one character to another but that could become too timeconsuming in the later stages of the game(trust me.. I know).
You can also remove any bonuses that FL or FH traits could give to characters.