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Mailman653
05-18-2010, 02:09
Overlord Xbox 360 Interview (http://xbox360.gamespy.com/dor/objects/74158/mass-effect-2-overlord/videos/masseffect2_trl_video_51710.html)
Mailman653
05-21-2010, 16:37
ME 2.5 (http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/mass-effect-2/1091779p1.html)
Awesome awesome news! Finally some meaningful DLC.
Krusader
05-22-2010, 04:20
Awesome awesome news! Finally some meaningful DLC.
Depends. Haven't been impressed with Bioware's recent DLC offerings, but mainly I'm curious as to pricing.
Depends. Haven't been impressed with Bioware's recent DLC offerings, but mainly I'm curious as to pricing.
You and me both. Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 are some of my most enjoyable purchases from the last eight or so months, yet their DLC offerings have been very meh all around. Even the delightfuly creative "Darkspawn Chronicles" for Dragon Age didn't offer much beyond a short gimmick. Which is sad. Bioware makes great games, but thus far terrible DLC.
If the DLC is actually meaningful (more than an hours content) I think it could be very good. Otherwise I may stay clear.
gaelic cowboy
05-28-2010, 20:21
You and me both. Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 are some of my most enjoyable purchases from the last eight or so months, yet their DLC offerings have been very meh all around. Even the delightfuly creative "Darkspawn Chronicles" for Dragon Age didn't offer much beyond a short gimmick. Which is sad. Bioware makes great games, but thus far terrible DLC.
If the DLC is actually meaningful (more than an hours content) I think it could be very good. Otherwise I may stay clear.
Thing is the pricing is not too bad tis cheap enough but it has been meh though.
Mass Effect movie confirmed. Link (http://movies.ign.com/articles/109/1092495p1.html).
Mailman653
06-29-2010, 06:13
Direct2Drive has ME2 for $19.95 for a limited time. I have no idea for how long, but for anyone who wants the game for less than $25, this might be your chance.
DLC : Lair of the Shadow Broker announced
Wiki article (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Lair_of_the_Shadow_Broker)
ME2 News archive (http://www.masseffect.com/home/archives/)
Description :
Two years ago, Commander Shepard died and Liara T'Soni fought in a desperate struggle against the Shadow Broker to recover her former Commander. Now that Shepard is back, it's time to even the score.
I just hope that this finally turns out to be one of those DLCs which will 'bridge the gap between ME2 and ME3'. It should be set after ME2's endgame.
Hooahguy
07-23-2010, 14:33
I have 880 bioware points saved up for the new DLC. I already have Overlord and Kasumi, not to mention the Cerberus Network, but that comes standard with the game.
I cant wait!
Krusader
07-23-2010, 15:03
I have 880 bioware points saved up for the new DLC. I already have Overlord and Kasumi, not to mention the Cerberus Network, but that comes standard with the game.
I cant wait!
Haven't played either DLC yet. Might have to do that later, although with rumours of increasing level cap I might wait.
Hooahguy
07-23-2010, 19:19
Dont bother with the Kasumi DLC. Its short and doesnt add much besides a new crewmember and a new gun.
But the Overlord DLC is very worth it. Its long, and a great plotline.
tibilicus
07-23-2010, 20:56
Any rumours of whether the DLC will come out on disk like some DLC does?
I'm kind of waiting for more DLC releases so that I can play them all at once. It has always bothered me with DLC that you seem to drop into extra game content, play for a couple of hours and then that's it.
DLC : Lair of the Shadow Broker announced
Wiki article (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Lair_of_the_Shadow_Broker)
ME2 News archive (http://www.masseffect.com/home/archives/)
Description :
Two years ago, Commander Shepard died and Liara T'Soni fought in a desperate struggle against the Shadow Broker to recover her former Commander. Now that Shepard is back, it's time to even the score.
It's about time.
It always felt strange that it didn't pan our further, I guess we know why now.
Hooahguy
07-25-2010, 16:06
I need some advice: I'm currently working towards going after the Reaper IFF (I'm playing on medium difficulty), then to the Omega 4 Relay, but I'm spending the time upgrading everything and doing all the side missions. I already fully upgraded my ship with the armor, guns, and multicore shielding (so I won't lose anyone en route to the base, fully upgraded my assault rifle as well as partially upgraded all the other weapons; I've recruited all my crew except Legion, obviously, and have all their loyalty except for Jack, whom I sacrificed her loyalty for Miranda’s— after all, Miranda is hotter and my paragon/renegade points weren't high enough to keep both of them.
I am currently 3/5 with paragon, 1/5 renegade.
My current plan is to keep mining until I get 10,000 element zero, so I can afford the advanced training twice- once for AP bullets before I undertake the Overlord missions (there are a lot of synthetic enemies, I'm assuming, since I will be dealing with enemy VI), then before I go to the Reaper ship, I plan on switching to Shredder bullets, which will tear apart the husks and other biotic enemies. Or am I making a mistake switching to shredder ammunition?
Now that I think about it, the Husks are easy to mow down with my light machine gun anyhow with incendiary ammo, but the Scions are harder to kill. And the Scions are armored, so I think I’ll keep the AP ammunition. Gee, I think I just saved myself a lot of time scanning for element zero!
But what I'm asking is, once I get Legion to join my team and earn his loyalty, do I keep Tali’s loyalty or Legion’s? My paragon level isn’t good enough to keep both of them, I don’t think (how high does it have to be anyways?) I heard that Legion is more useful than Tali, but I’m not sure.
Also, how does the final mission work? What determines whether a squad member dies or not? Loyalty? In that case, I’d lose two members since everyone else is loyal, but is there anything else that comes into play?
On a side note, does anyone else think that the side missions, as well as some of the loyalty missions, are painfully short? I mean for Tali, her mission took me all of 15 minutes, and one particular side mission only took a grand total of 7 minutes. I am definitely playing this again on hard!
One more thing: I've heard how after you beat the game and if you survived, you can start over with all your upgrades still there (but not paragon/renegade points). Is that true? I would love to start the game with the fully upgraded LMG, but this time I'm going to be a renegade.
You can start over with a fully upgraded character. Including the skills you picked from companion loyalties.
AFAIK, who survives the final mission depends on loyalty mission but not solely on that. There are quite a few factors, including a character's toughness (which comes into play specifically.........when everyone holds the line, while you go kill the final boss...) Also say Jack isn't loyal and you choose her for a biotic job during the endgame, she is likely to falter, causing her and maybe one of your teammates to die. It's all quite complicated. Check here -
Link to Suicide missions details on the wiki. (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_2_Guide#Suicide_Mission)
tibilicus
07-25-2010, 17:11
You need pretty high paragon or renegade to keep both legion and Tali's loyalty. It's personal preference I guess and you don't need complete loyalty from everyone to have everyone survive the suicide mission. Although, without spoiling too much, you should never ask non-loyal squad mates to do specific tasks which may require someone who is committed and trustworthy.
You need pretty high paragon or renegade to keep both legion and Tali's loyalty. It's personal preference I guess and you don't need complete loyalty from everyone to have everyone survive the suicide mission. Although, without spoiling too much, you should never ask non-loyal squad mates to do specific tasks which may require someone who is committed and trustworthy.
It's the highest renegade/paragon check in the game, the paragon check is a little lower than the renegade check so if you're playing through as renegade you may wanna save recruiting legion until the last possible chance.
If you can't secure both of their loyalties in the crisis moment then another option comes in supporting Tali and then talking to Legion afterward. Legion will be angry (well as angry as Geth can be) but you can lie to him and tell him you only supported Tali for the sake of the mission. Legion will understand and his loyalty will be restored.
Hooahguy
07-26-2010, 02:30
It's the highest renegade/paragon check in the game, the paragon check is a little lower than the renegade check so if you're playing through as renegade you may wanna save recruiting legion until the last possible chance.
If you can't secure both of their loyalties in the crisis moment then another option comes in supporting Tali and then talking to Legion afterward. Legion will be angry (well as angry as Geth can be) but you can lie to him and tell him you only supported Tali for the sake of the mission. Legion will understand and his loyalty will be restored.
But does that require a high paragon/renegade level? If so, Im going to side with Legion. Tali is useless and I enjoy seeing Legion do the Robot.
Alexander the Pretty Good
07-26-2010, 02:38
Tali isn't useless!
Hooahguy
07-26-2010, 02:59
Well she sure seems to be.
Well she sure seems to be.
You should see her face. *shudder*
http://www.sharecg.com/images/large/38100.jpg
gaelic cowboy
07-27-2010, 14:50
This new Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC could be good I must put a few pound on the credit card when it comes out and get the Overlord one too a run through again might be nice.
Hooahguy
07-27-2010, 15:05
I just hope they dont make it pitifully short.
This new Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC could be good I must put a few pound on the credit card when it comes out and get the Overlord one too a run through again might be nice.
I ran through Overlord a couple nights ago, very satisfying! Overall I say it's been the best DLC bioware has made, second only to Dragon Age's Stone Prisoner. If Lair of the Shadow Broker is Overlord's length I will be more than happy.
I do recommend you play Overlord before you complete your play through. Waiting until after the finale to do it might bring up continuity issues for certain shepards :yes:
gaelic cowboy
07-27-2010, 15:35
I think I might just dump all my Shepard's start from ME1 and do it all over again
Alexander the Pretty Good
07-27-2010, 17:15
I hope they'll release a "DLC Complete" pack some day, I'm not spending $20-30 separately for an apparently mixed bag of add-ons...
Hooahguy
07-27-2010, 17:36
Luckily my paragon level was high enough so that I was able to persuade both Legion and Tali to stay loyal.
Awesome!
Hooahguy
07-28-2010, 16:34
I finished ME2, and was able to keep everyone alive.
Im currently playing through the game again using the Renegade options.
Then I plan on getting ME1, then going through both games, in preparation for ME1.
Hooahguy
08-03-2010, 17:49
New DLC released today:
The Firepower weapon pack (http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/3331222/1)
EDIT: Ok so I tried out all the new weapons.
So far, I really like the Phalanx. It can take down collectors in two shots, Collector Assassins in three-four, and those posessed collectors in about 5-6. Great use and a great substitute for a sniper rifle if you are confined to a pistol and shotgun. But you need to aim carefully, because of its low ammo count. But a great weapon overall. Im guessing that all of the haters out there are just annoyed at the laser (which is awesome, btw) and its slow firing speed. But its massive damage makes up for it.
The plasma shotgun is also cool. havent tried it out on enemies yet, but it took out crates from a considerable distance away, if that means anything. I plan on arming my squadmates with it.
The Mattock Heavy Rifle is probably only for those people who play as soldiers who like to hang back and fight. For up close combat Im going to say that it is not suited at all, but at least it has amazing accuracy. But personally, I prefer the Revenant, I like medium-short range combat. The new rifle isnt for me, but for those infiltrator types who are playing as soldiers, this gun is awesome for you. But what I do like about it is that you get near-sniper rifle accuracy without losing the combat awareness that a sniper rifle scope gives.
So would I buy this DLC?
My opinion: YES!
:angry: BIOWARE THIS IS NOT GEARS OF WAR, ENOUGH WEAPON PACKS! :angry: *flips the table over* :furious3:
Oh... there's new assault rifles? Well that changes things. :book:
Hooahguy
08-03-2010, 21:05
The devs said earlier that the weapons are going hand in hand with the Shadow Broker DLC. And Besides, why complain? Its giving diversity to our weapons locker. I love the geth plasma shotgun, it took out a Blue Suns lieutenant (biotic barrier+armor)in one shot. Granted, it was powered up and he was in the open, but still, one shot to take down enemy shields and barriers and 90% of health in ONE shot.
The new assault rifle Im finding to be inadequate in combat, unless its for small groups of mercs in one of the side missions and used from far away where normal ARs would be innacurate. In that case its fun, but otherwise I prefer my LMG.
And the pistol is still awesome.
The devs said earlier that the weapons are going hand in hand with the Shadow Broker DLC. And Besides, why complain? Its giving diversity to our weapons locker. I love the geth plasma shotgun, it took out a Blue Suns lieutenant (biotic barrier+armor)in one shot. Granted, it was powered up and he was in the open, but still, one shot to take down enemy shields and barriers and 90% of health in ONE shot.
The new assault rifle Im finding to be inadequate in combat, unless its for small groups of mercs in one of the side missions and used from far away where normal ARs would be innacurate. In that case its fun, but otherwise I prefer my LMG.
And the pistol is still awesome.
Because it's such a boring way to approach DLC. I was largely not serious in my first post, but honestly there's only so many ways to kill Collectors.
I won't scoff at a new assault rifle though, Mass Effect 2 needs more diversity in that area (though i must wonder if it's actually a worthwhile upgrade from the Geth Rifle. So accurate and powerful! :love: )
Hooahguy
08-03-2010, 21:36
Speaking of ways to kill the Collectors, I have one beef with ME2: you cant replay missions. I would love to replay Tali's or Garrus's recruitment missions after I defeated the Collectors. It would be inconsequential in regards to morality points, but after you beat the game and all the assignments, you are left to start over. Which isnt a bad thing, mind you. But Id still like to replay the missions.
Mailman653
08-17-2010, 17:28
ME2 for PS3 announced (http://ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/mass-effect-2/1113421p1.html)
ME2 for PS3 announced (http://ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/mass-effect-2/1113421p1.html)
Really i'm surprised, i thought Microsoft was going to keep Bioware on a exclusive deal at least until the trilogy was complete. In any event, this is great news for ps3 owners
Hooahguy
09-01-2010, 23:51
Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWrxAdg7utw
Mailman653
09-02-2010, 03:51
Now if only my 360 worked, ha ha ha. Looks like I'll have to attempt the towel trick again.
Alexander the Pretty Good
09-02-2010, 08:02
That at least sounds like the right voice actor this time.
That at least sounds like the right voice actor this time.
If i recall, the same voice actor was doing Liara in the main game as well - but she was channeling Christian Bale's Batman. :shrug:
As for the trailer itself: I like it! Though the line "He's more dangerous than anything you've faced" made me laugh pretty hard.
Once you've committed genocide and brought down a "god", there isn't much that can intimidate you. Scary voice or no!
It looks like this is going to be really good. Better than the DAO dlc atleast.
BTW, why would Cerebrus give Shepard any data if he breaks up with them in the Paragon ending?
tibilicus
09-03-2010, 03:25
It looks like this is going to be really good. Better than the DAO dlc atleast.
BTW, why would Cerebrus give Shepard any data if he breaks up with them in the Paragon ending?
I was wondering about this too. It would also be kind of cool if we have an option to betray Liara (real Renegade choice) and somehow gain the Shadow Broker as an ally. I doubt that will be the case but seeming this looks awesome enough already, I'm not fussed.
Hooahguy
09-03-2010, 06:05
It looks like this is going to be really good. Better than the DAO dlc atleast.
BTW, why would Cerebrus give Shepard any data if he breaks up with them in the Paragon ending?
Miranda is still on the team, she could probably hack into Cerberus channels. Also, if you did renegade or didnt finish the game yet, it all works out.
Mailman653
09-07-2010, 16:30
The new DLC is out today, from what I've read it's 1.5 GB, that's one big DLC!
Really i'm surprised, i thought Microsoft was going to keep Bioware on a exclusive deal at least until the trilogy was complete. In any event, this is great news for ps3 owners
They will, which is why the original game will probably never make it to the PS3. Future Mass Effect and Dragon Age games will, since they're published by EA.
I have a feeling the Shadow Broker will be some kind of AI, anything else would be underwhelming considering what Sheperd did in the past.
Bioware Fail, the DLC installer for the Shadow Lair DLC is broken, so it doesn't even work.
Bioware Fail, the DLC installer for the Shadow Lair DLC is broken, so it doesn't even work.
Not only that, the entire .exe is filled with nothing but zeros (if opened with a hex editor). The corrupted file was taken down and Bioware's promised a fixed version soon. This only effects those of us with the PC version, the 360 version of the DLC seems to work fine.
Not only that, the entire .exe is filled with nothing but zeros (if opened with a hex editor). The corrupted file was taken down and Bioware's promised a fixed version soon. This only effects those of us with the PC version, the 360 version of the DLC seems to work fine.
I saw that.
Seriously.. a .exe just full of zeros? Mind boggling.
Gregoshi
09-08-2010, 03:45
Seriously.. a .exe just full of zeros? Mind boggling.
So it was all for naught...
Hooahguy
09-08-2010, 05:38
The correct version is now up. I just finished downloading it, will install it and play it all night long. After all, I wont get another chance until Saturday night because of Rosh Hashanah.
The Overlord DLC was a lot of fun from start to finish, lots of nice combat with a bit of plot thrown in to give it structure. Shadow Broker has a LOT more in regards to development and I have to say it's very enjoyable. As far as DLC goes it might be bioware's best for ME2, but sadly it's lacking in difficulty. I played through with my completed shepard and blew through almost the entire thing on Hardcore. I did enjoy the boss fights however, they were very original (if easy). But I was shocked by how I missed the renegade intimidate option, I have a full bar. Maybe if you take the surgery option to remove your scars it hurts your intimidate ability? :confused:
The ending makes sense for a Renegade minded Shepard but I don't know if there's another way to end it. I didn't try forcing paragon, though the option came up quite a few times. I'll say this: Bioware needs to relax on the interrupt speed. It was WAY too fast in this DLC.
Make sure you look around the last room once you've finished the DLC for some surprises.
Who knew Legion was a gamer? Honestly :laugh4:
Hooahguy
09-08-2010, 19:34
I too played through the new DLC, and I must say, I am extremely happy with it. Great missions (love the car chase), great dialogue, something Overlord was lacking, and great boss fights- fighting a vanguard was tough!
A must-get for any ME2 player.
Greyblades
09-13-2010, 20:34
Well this should make an interesting intimidate option next game "I took down a God, a 300 ft tall terminator and I beat a 500 pounds of pure muscle space ogre to death with my bare hands."
Hooahguy
11-01-2010, 03:47
On my 5th playthrough of ME2 (Im a renegade Shep soldider romancing Miranda, cant stay away from her :beam:), many more to come, but I also wanted an RTS fix so I took up Sins of a Solar Empire again.
This time, I role play the TEC as the Alliance, the Advent as the Geth, and the Vasari as the Council Races.
Fun all around!
Hooahguy
12-10-2010, 22:45
Mass Effect 3 was pretty much announced (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/12/10/mass-effect-3-outed-on-ea-store/)
gaelic cowboy
12-10-2010, 23:39
Mass Effect 3 was pretty much announced (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/12/10/mass-effect-3-outed-on-ea-store/)
I want it now but then I don't want it too end either
Anyone have a link to the teaser video that was released sometime back? I just found about it right now....It's at the bottom of the article on this page (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/17/bioware-revealing-new-project-at-vgas-on-december-11/)....this one does not seem to be available in my region, so a youtube link or something would be nice...
Hooahguy
12-14-2010, 06:32
ME2 won IGNs game of the year for xbox, as well as best sci-fi for both xbox and PC, and Thane (for xbox) and TIM (for PC) won best character. It also won best PC soundtrack.
YAY!
EDIT: also won best blockbuster game and best story for xbox, as well as for PC it won best story, most innovative gameplay, best visuals.
and Thane (for xbox) and TIM (for PC) won best character.
Thane won best character award?! :surprised:
He was more or less a green Carth...little less whiny.
Hooahguy
12-14-2010, 16:01
Thane won best character award?! :surprised:
He was more or less a green Carth...little less whiny.
Are you kidding me? He is incredibly fleshed out if you romance him. He is even fleshed out if you dont romance him. Plus the guy is awesome.
Are you kidding me? He is incredibly fleshed out if you romance him. He is even fleshed out if you dont romance him. Plus the guy is awesome.
Well I actually didn't try out the romance subplot so I don't know about that.
Still, I'd have voted for Mordin Solus or maybe Legion....
Hooahguy
02-22-2011, 07:09
New ME2 DLC on the way? (http://www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-2-arrival-dlc-might-be-on-the-horizon-194677.phtml/)
This will be good....
Hooahguy
03-18-2011, 20:02
New DLC called "Arrival" is coming on March 29th.
gaelic cowboy
03-19-2011, 02:28
New DLC called "Arrival" is coming on March 29th.
Yay
Kekvit Irae
03-19-2011, 03:49
I started playing ME2 again a day or two before Arrival was hinted at.
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577791818828282343/8C966102D7D44607B43DD4D179DE45CCFABEEB71/
I finally created a character uglier than Jack. Mission Accomplished.
The romance options are going to get... awkward.
My god that's terrifying...
Kekvit Irae
03-19-2011, 07:45
It's hilarious and horrifying at the same time.
It's hilarious and horrifying at the same time.
Was trying to make a Mass Effect cartoon with the face, but couldn't. I'm sure I posted this picture somewhere else in the Guild itself, but, anyway -
The player has the power......
1155
IGN preview (http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/115/1157495p1.html) of the first mission of the DLC Arrival (first page is spoiler free).
Sounds like there'll be a ton of twists.
I hope that the Reapers don't succeed in planting a chip or something inside Shepard's head.
gaelic cowboy
03-28-2011, 22:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPPXpikoWAo
Mass Effect Arrival trailer
Hooahguy
03-29-2011, 00:07
Looks amazing. Pity they put in a massive spoiler at the end.
gaelic cowboy
03-29-2011, 03:45
Looks amazing. Pity they put in a massive spoiler at the end.
is it though, we know largely what has to happen, my guess is you will have to choose between preventing Arrival early or late
is it though, we know largely what has to happen, my guess is you will have to choose between preventing Arrival early or late
Indeed, the launch trailer for ME3 was rather a big spoiler for Arrival in hindsight. It would appear The Reaper invasion is coming and there's no much you can do to stop them from entertaining the galaxy... but perhaps there's other options to explore? Will be interesting to get my hands on it. After Shadow Broker, Arrival has some big shoes to fill. No matter if it's good or bad i'm ready for this, it'll be good to put a capstone on ME2 and put it to bed once and for all.
Arrival's in the bag. As far as DLC goes it's okay but after the great Overlord and Shadow Broker, Arrival's a pretty poor experience. Game time clocked in at about an hour and 15 minutes of content, with likely 30 of that being combat with a Shepard running solo. No companions are allowed, though you get a temporary one for around 10 minutes.
The plot took a hard swerve about halfway through and it took me a while to figure out just what the hell was going on - mainly because it comes right out of nowhere. Missed opportunity comes in the fact there's no boss fight of any kind toward the end. As a result it gradually loses steam until it concludes a short while later.
Arrival adds a welcome change of tone the ME2 experience in that you're back on the Reaper trail but it ends way too soon and doesn't add much to the overall plot of the game (other than what we already knew from the game's incredible setup ending). Bioware must have heard the feedback from a few fans because the interrupt options are much slower this time. In Shadow they were so fast it was crazy... good to see them toned back.
All in all a decent, fun experience greatly overshadowed by the previous DLC.
Hooahguy
03-30-2011, 00:55
Just bought it, downloading now. I have heard many people complaining about its length, but after all, it was only 560 BW points, so that is to be expected.
At least Harby is back in force ala Sovereign style. :help:
gaelic cowboy
03-30-2011, 01:12
Dowloaded and played a quick two minutes but I am afraid it's time for the leaba now for some sleep.
Still cant wait till tomorrow evening when I fire it up again.
Hooahguy
03-30-2011, 06:30
Downloaded it and installed it but cant play because I cant connect to Cerberus :daisy: Network.
:angry:
gaelic cowboy
03-30-2011, 13:26
Downloaded it and installed it but cant play because I cant connect to Cerberus :daisy: Network.
:angry:
I got that too at first but it asked me for my password and all that lark, cerberus network was jumpy all day people prob getting ready for arrival I suppose.
Now that ME2 is for the off I hope they made sure they put an actual singular baddie in the third one to boo and hiss at like Saren from ME1, the idea of the collector general was a cool character and all but a bit impersonal, I could not get worked up about him as a character unlike for Saren. having said that I still felt ME2 had a better flow and cinematic feel and it is the better game so I have a fair expectation ME3 will at least emulate that feeling.
I didnt actually feel anything about the Collector General until the very end when he is trying furiously to stop the explosion up to that point he was just another bot to be wasted, Unfortunately I suspect because ME3 is about the Reapers we will get a game with an even larger but still impersonal enemy. If it was me making ME3 I would put in another indoctrinated enemy who is dogging my tail trying to prevent me gather the races to save earth :yes:
Kekvit Irae
03-30-2011, 21:33
My thoughts on Arrival:
Like Overlord, it builds up to awesome, only to fall flat on its face at the ending.
Considering the final countdown to the Reaper arrival in the system was AT MOST 28 minutes, it would have been cool to see the Reapers. NOPE! You're just treated to a hologram of Harbringer telling you that your efforts are futile, you will be assimilated, blah blah blah.
Was it worth seven dollars? In my opinion, not really.
My thoughts on Arrival:
Like Overlord, it builds up to awesome, only to fall flat on its face at the ending.
Considering the final countdown to the Reaper arrival in the system was AT MOST 28 minutes, it would have been cool to see the Reapers. NOPE! You're just treated to a hologram of Harbringer telling you that your efforts are futile, you will be assimilated, blah blah blah.
Was it worth seven dollars? In my opinion, not really.
I can agree there - it feels like a huge tease. If ME3 was right around the corner? I probably wouldn't mind, but we've still got all year before we even see hide or hair of the finale. :no: Had fun but Arrival is nowhere close to how much I enjoyed Shadow Broker and Overlord, which i still rate as the two best DLCs for ME2.
Hooahguy
03-30-2011, 23:39
About halfway through Arrival. I just escaped the prison, which I felt was way too short.
Im disturbed at the lack of dialogue options.
Ill finish the mission, then Ill post the rest of my thoughts.
Also Kekvit Irae, the reason why you wouldnt have seen the Reapers is because they didnt arrive yet. If you could see them then you failed since they would have passed through the relay.
About halfway through Arrival. I just escaped the prison, which I felt was way too short.
Im disturbed at the lack of dialogue options.
That's another thing that surprised me. Especially ( I know i keep harping on it, but I can't help it :laugh4:) after shadow broker. It was just so interactive, including paragon and renegade persuade options, as well as multiple chances for interrupts to influence the conversation. I'm afraid Arrival falls prey to the typical Bioware DLC missteps that effort managed to get away from.
I heard the guy in charge of the Shadow Broker team wasn't working on this one, and many felt Arrival would suffer for it. Seems like it did.
SwordsMaster
03-31-2011, 00:51
Decided to start the whole thing all over again in anticipation. Finished ME with a level 52 Shep, importing into ME2 now...
Hooahguy
03-31-2011, 01:04
Finished the DLC. I felt like it was way too short. I felt like much of it was rushed.
But at least the ending is epic.
Alexander the Pretty Good
03-31-2011, 04:44
How is Harbinger back? He up and exploded in 1...
How is Harbinger back? He up and exploded in 1...
That was Sovereign.
Harbinger was the reaper controlling the collector general through remote possesion. The ending of 2 implies Harbinger was with the rest of the reapers outside the galaxy, and removed his conciousness before the sattelite exploded.
Alexander the Pretty Good
03-31-2011, 05:21
Oh right, got confused there.
Kekvit Irae
03-31-2011, 17:40
*snip*
Spoiler tags, plz. :juggle2:
The point wasn't that the Reapers would use the Alpha Relay in 28 minutes, the point was that the Reapers would be in the galaxy (specifically the system you were in) in 28 minutes by entering using FTL travel. To coin a movie phrase, "Theeeeeeey're heeeeeeere!" Yeah, it'll take weeks or months for them to get to another relay, but the point is that they are already in the galaxy.
Like all other DLC, nothing that occurred ever has any effect on the game as a whole. You cant just go to the Citadel and say to the council, "Oh hey, remember Sovereign? Yeah, his buddies just entered Batarian space. Go take a look if you don't believe me." The entire DLC is, like Monk says, a tease. If you complete the DLC just after Horizon, the game as a whole no longer makes any sense because there is no further mention of this HUGE event ever happening. Ever.
Hooahguy
03-31-2011, 17:46
Ok, Ill agree with you when you put it that way. It was unclear though if the mass relay was the Reapers entry point to other relays or the entry point to the galaxy itself. For all we know, the Reapers have a special mass relay that goes only to that relay, and with its destruction the other mass relay would be rendered useless.
Mailman653
04-07-2011, 16:50
BioWare, Funimation Announce Mass Effect Anime Movie (http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/mass-effect/1160334p1.html)
Video game to anime crossovers just don't cut it. I've never watched one that I really liked.
Greyblades
04-07-2011, 22:24
I've been told the halo ones did well, though then again I consider anything that send 12 yr old halo brats into a rage doing well.
Never saw the Halo movies. Watched one that was about Batman when it was aired on TV, didn't like it. Maybe I've been looking at the wrong sort of stuff but there are only two kinds of anime I've ever seen. The ones for 12 year olds, and the ones that are marked 18+.
Games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age, and Witcher and the sort, they ought to be made into live action movies. Epic stuff like the Lord of the Rings series.....maybe not that epic...but still.......
Krusader
04-08-2011, 16:01
Mass Effect 3 "not-so-big spoilers, but spoilers nonetheless"
Rock Paper Shotgun article (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/04/08/mass-effect-3-revenge-of-the-spoilers/)
Now the Illusive Man and Cerberus wants to kill you, no matter what you did in ME2? Wonder if Miranda & Jacob might be enemies if you did not treat them nicely in ME2
Hooahguy
04-08-2011, 16:47
I wonder what this means for Miranda more than I do Jacob.
After all, if you bring her on to the final boss and choose to destroy the base, she quits Cerberus. Plus I deeply care about this because I romanced her whenever I could. Jacob doesnt do anything really. He stays with Cerberus either way.
gaelic cowboy
04-08-2011, 17:09
I guessing they had to limit the amount of reused characters otherwise you could end up with potentially no characters if they all died in the suicide mission. I always felt that the people who campaigned for certain characters in ME2 were maybe going to be dissapointed in ME3. Hence I was glad Liara was not in ME2 at the start as it meant she probably be back for ME3 but when Garrus was in the whole story for ME2 I was a bit apprehensive.
There was a huge campaign for Tali if I remember rightly and they have probably made it so the character will not be in ME3 now, I'm guessing that most of the ME2 characters will be done like Wrex was if he did or did not survive Virmire.
Apparently there are....(no real spoilers)
many good and bad endings...And they'll depend on what squadmates are with you at the end..
Well I just hope that they have this one absolutely butterflies and daisies sort of ending where everyone lives happily ever after...I got enough of cliffhangers and sad endings from Dragon Age
Hooahguy
04-08-2011, 18:05
Im also glad Legion is back. I love that guy. Though I wish he was a squaddie.
Mass Effect 3 "not-so-big spoilers, but spoilers nonetheless"
Rock Paper Shotgun article (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/04/08/mass-effect-3-revenge-of-the-spoilers/)
Now the Illusive Man and Cerberus wants to kill you, no matter what you did in ME2? Wonder if Miranda & Jacob might be enemies if you did not treat them nicely in ME2
Yeah they kinda wrote themselves into a corner with ME2 and Cerberus involvement.. not at all surprised.
Krusader
04-08-2011, 21:19
Yeah they kinda wrote themselves into a corner with ME2 and Cerberus involvement.. not at all surprised.
I always felt the Cerberus involvement in ME2 was not entirely..."natural". It wasn't unbelieveable, but they were really portrayed as evil in ME1, nothing about humanity's interests at heart. Felt like someone at Bioware had a soft spot for Cerberus and really wanted them in.
Another 180* with Cerberus now after, in my opinion they tried to paint Cerberus in a more positive light or rather being more "gray than black", has to be believeable, because there are definitely some Shephard savegames out there with a pro-Cerberus bent.
As for characters, I can't see Wrex or Liara becoming squaddies really, as Wrex seems to become the new Krogan Overlord, while Liara is the Shadow Broker. I'd say its more likely you go to Wrex and ask if the Krogan can help you attack the Reapers (Reapers being the most dangerous enemy around, should suit Krogan real fine) and Liara being Shadow Broker, one you can get lots of information from.
gaelic cowboy
04-08-2011, 21:28
Im also glad Legion is back. I love that guy. Though I wish he was a squaddie.
I'm a bit annoyed he is not a squaddie sure they could have easy just put a lantern on it and said oh by the way I downloaded myself before the sucide mission in case I got killed ta da so I'm back now so I am
I can't see Wrex or Liara becoming squaddies really, as Wrex seems to become the new Krogan Overlord, while Liara is the Shadow Broker. I'd say its more likely you go to Wrex and ask if the Krogan can help you attack the Reapers (Reapers being the most dangerous enemy around, should suit Krogan real fine) and Liara being Shadow Broker, one you can get lots of information from.[/SPOIL]
Yea I'm guessing your going to end up doing a load missions for all your old mates to get the differ races to help defend earth.
The Rachni are so gonna be in it :yes: I can see a scenario where races are paired off just like characters were in ME2, oh look I havent got enough Paragon to keep the Quarians and the Geth both loyal
I always felt the Cerberus involvement in ME2 was not entirely..."natural". It wasn't unbelieveable, but they were really portrayed as evil in ME1, nothing about humanity's interests at heart. Felt like someone at Bioware had a soft spot for Cerberus and really wanted them in.
Another 180* with Cerberus now after, in my opinion they tried to paint Cerberus in a more positive light or rather being more "gray than black", has to be believeable, because there are definitely some Shephard savegames out there with a pro-Cerberus bent.
As for characters, I can't see Wrex or Liara becoming squaddies really, as Wrex seems to become the new Krogan Overlord, while Liara is the Shadow Broker. I'd say its more likely you go to Wrex and ask if the Krogan can help you attack the Reapers (Reapers being the most dangerous enemy around, should suit Krogan real fine) and Liara being Shadow Broker, one you can get lots of information from.
You have to remember in ME1 the only background you got on Cerberus was from The Alliance, who labeled them as nothing more than a terrorist group. And this:
From an admiral scared, on the run and looking over his shoulder every five minutes.
I could buy that we didn't "get the whole story" the first time pretty easily.
More on Cerberus in ME2 and implications for 3, and ME2 and ME1 ending spoilers: Read at your own risk!
I felt that the endings were much too black and white in regards to cerberus. Either the Illusive man declared you an enemy of Ceberus and went out of his way to insult you "I should have known you'd choke under the pressure." Or, you become the Ceberus Hero set to uhser in a new age for the galaxy with ceberus at its head. With the power given to them by the Collector base their influence would soon outweigh even the Council's. I doubt, if you chose a Renegade ending, anyone would be able to defy Cerberus with the technology they had at their disposal.
Now contrast that to the first game's ending.. No matter what you did, good, evil, neutral, in the final battle of the game no matter WHAT ending you take - the game ends on a "The reapers are coming..." note, setting the clear stage for the next game. It's very neat, very tidy, and VERY easy to continue the story. Whether the council was dead or not seemed very minor in comparison to the impending threat, and the only question seemed to be whether humanity would lead, or simply be one of many, in the coming alliance to defend the galaxy.
ME2 was the complete opposite.
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