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Hax
01-28-2010, 15:05
Ugh, today my desktop pc decided it didn't like the idea of having a monitor plugged into it anymore, so here I am, on this ancient Asus Sempron 3000+ that I managed to salvage from the forsaken lands of the basement.

Oh well, I guess I have time now to:

- play bouzouki
- do more stuff for school >:|
- read some books


I don't expect to get my olde pc back for about a week, so I won't be here that much.

- Hax

PS I know this isn't the tech forums, but I'm gonna ask anyway. Apparently, the screen itself works fine, no problems whatsoever. I think the problem lies with the PC itself: after waking up, I immediately turned it on. The screen worked no problem, entered my password and walked downstairs to get some breakfast. When I returned, about ten minutes later, my screen said something like "no signal", while the plugs hadn't changed *at all*. Does anybody know what might be going on?

Subotan
01-28-2010, 15:07
Read some Hellboy Comics :yes:

Fragony
01-28-2010, 15:08
Green Lantern is better

Subotan
01-28-2010, 15:28
Never read that. But I like the occult references in Hellboy, and BPRD is just fantastic.

Lemur
01-28-2010, 15:54
If you never read some of the big comic epics, now's a good time. From Hell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_Hell), the Sandman Series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sandman_%28Vertigo%29), the first four books of Cerebus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebus). You know, brush up on the classics.

rajpoot
01-28-2010, 17:00
I don't claim to be good at this, but this sounds like a problem with the PSU....

I mean if your system is booting properly without any disk checks and all, and working fine and then just shuts down suddenly....most likely it's the PSU....

Hax
01-28-2010, 17:00
Actually, now that you mention it, I'm reading Milton's "Paradise Lost" as of the moment.

Aemilius Paulus
01-28-2010, 17:12
Ugh, today my desktop pc decided it didn't like the idea of having a monitor plugged into it anymore,
Ha, what a coincidence. Very similar happened to my desktop this night, four hours before you posted, as the connection between the tower and the monitor seemed to have been lost (the 'no VGA output message' - and I tried adjusting all the contacts of the wires, but at no avail; strangely enough, the tower was working well, and I could still hear the audio, although no video), but a quick reboot solved the problem.

What it did not solve was the half an hour of Anno 1701, and that went unsaved. In just about all my games, I save every ten minutes, but I always for some reason have to lose a load of playing time on several instances before the lesson hammers home... :wall: :no:

So sorry to hear you lose your desktop functionality, but could you not take it to a local repair shop, if it seems too difficult to sort out yourself? Does it take them a whole week?

Peasant Phill
01-28-2010, 19:26
Actually, now that you mention it, I'm reading Milton's "Paradise Lost" as of the moment.

Forget about paradise lost. like lemu said read Sandman. You'll thank us later.

Subotan
01-28-2010, 20:13
the first four books of Cerebus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebus). You know, brush up on the classics.
Yes.


IFrom Hell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_Hell),
Oh God, yes.


Sandman Series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sandman_%28Vertigo%29),


Forget about paradise lost. like lemu said read Sandman. You'll thank us later.

Never read it, although I consider myself a comics buff :shame:

If I was to recommend some others, than Maus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus) is an absolute must, Palestine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_%28Sacco_comic%29) and Safe Area Gorazde (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_Area_Gora%C5%BEde) are vital too, as are Watchmen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen) and V for Vendetta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_vendetta). Blankets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blankets_%28graphic_novel%29) is just superb, anything by (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_spiffy_adventures_of_McConey) Lewis Trondheim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Trondheim) rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeon_%28comics%29)s, Black Hole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hole_%28comics%29) is disgustingly messed up (Yet amazingly truthful), the Palomar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_and_Rockets_%28comics%29) series is a landmark work of art, and Nausicaa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausica%C3%A4_of_the_Valley_of_the_Wind_%28manga%29)is my favourite Manga series, thanks to it's hard truths about environmental disasters.

Fragony
01-28-2010, 21:05
I second Palestine and Gorazde, very biased but very good.

Subotan
01-28-2010, 21:59
Btw, do you use the term graphic novel, or comic (book)?

Fragony
02-06-2010, 11:35
I would call Gorazde and Palestine graphical novels, depends on the size I guess. Also check out Maus if you haven't already, in the same vein, it's a bit racist, Polish are all drawn as pigs for example but it serves an artistic purpose. It's a tough depressing read but very good.

Subotan
02-06-2010, 13:25
They're not really novels, so it's a bit weird to call them that.

And pigs aren't necessarily a bad creature. The boar is a noble animal, for example.

Fragony
02-06-2010, 14:24
Glad to be able to recommend something good. MAUS is a real classic you should check out.

Subotan
02-06-2010, 14:49
I've already read Maus, but yeah it's excellent. The focus on the aftermath of going through the camps is what makes it so good.

Lemur
02-06-2010, 19:12
If you're feeling up for something offensive and over-the-top, I'd recommend the Preacher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preacher_%28comics%29) books. If you're in the mood for something offensive, over-the-top and intellectually stimulating, all of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Extraordinary_Gentlemen)books are worth your time.

As for the "comics" versus "graphic novel" debate, I generally just call them "books." Sometimes simplest is best.

Subotan
02-06-2010, 21:54
I'll have to look out for Preacher. And I've read the first issue of the Extraordinary League :yes:

I call them comics, when I'm talking to people who know about them, and graphic novels when I'm talking to people who don't.

Fragony
02-07-2010, 12:43
Still think size matters for it to be a graphic-novel, every art-form has it's jewels and atrocities. The graphic novel is a genre I just caught up to, we do have a wealth of comics but it's for a niche audience none of my friends ever read one. Some never read anything but grocery lists though and it must have been hard.