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HoreTore
02-07-2010, 15:29
Yes, I'm talking about the John Terry case....
Why is sex scandals such a big hit in Britain and America? Why is the press dying for cases like this, and why does the readers care? I mean, John Terry is a fantastic footballer who unfortunately plays for an evil team, why does the brits care so much about which bedroom he sleeps in?
Yes, there are sex scandals in other countries too. But they seem to get a lot more attention in Britain. For example, our former health minister had been cheating on his wife for months, then divorced because of it. The press knew about it, but nobody bothered to make an article about it, until a gossip mag planned to do a story, and then all the fuzz was about how the gossip mag dared to invade his privacy... And isn't it specified in the French constitution how many mistresses the president is required to have?
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
02-07-2010, 15:41
Yes, I'm talking about the John Terry case....
Why is sex scandals such a big hit in Britain and America? Why is the press dying for cases like this, and why does the readers care? I mean, John Terry is a fantastic footballer who unfortunately plays for an evil team, why does the brits care so much about which bedroom he sleeps in?
Yes, there are sex scandals in other countries too. But they seem to get a lot more attention in Britain. For example, our former health minister had been cheating on his wife for months, then divorced because of it. The press knew about it, but nobody bothered to make an article about it, until a gossip mag planned to do a story, and then all the fuzz was about how the gossip mag dared to invade his privacy... And isn't it specified in the French constitution how many mistresses the president is required to have?
It's quite simple, you can't trust him with your wife. We don't like that, the fact it was a team-mate's girlfriend only compounds the offence.
HoreTore
02-07-2010, 15:53
It's quite simple, you can't trust him with your wife. We don't like that, the fact it was a team-mate's girlfriend only compounds the offence.
He's a football player, what relevance does trust have?
He hasn't done anything criminal, and nothing that affects anyone but the implicated parties(ie. his wife, mistress and kids), so why should it concern anyone else?
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
02-07-2010, 16:02
He's betrayed his wife and his teammate, and possibly fathered bastards to the detriment of his legitimate children. He is in no sense a man of honour and is therefore worth nothing.
HoreTore
02-07-2010, 16:04
He's betrayed his wife and his teammate, and possibly fathered bastards to the detriment of his legitimate children. He is in no sense a man of honour and is therefore worth nothing.
So what? His job is to play football, has his performance gone down? No, his recent goal is proof of that. So what's the problem?
rory_20_uk
02-07-2010, 16:08
WAGS are basically whores on tenure, either long or short term.
Most "front load" the bills onto the amount of money they will drain for themselves.
This whore has been slightly different, screwing for free, then "back-loading" the money on "silence money" and then selling her story.
No crimes have been committed.
Everyone was consenting
WHY SHOULD WE CARE?
OK, the tabloids for the cattle can report this as the modern day panem et circenses, but the broadsheets have also been wasting space reporting the ruttings of the borderline sentient. This pisses me off. :furious3:
~:smoking:
It's normal gutter-press coverage, nothing really unusual about it. It sells papers for whatever reason so the press cover it (guess people just like reading about a scandal over here). As to the offence itself, as England captain he has a wider role than just a footballer as he is meant to be a role model for people, so cheating on your wife with your mates girlfriend doesn't set a great example to the youth of today.
There IS an unhealthy amount of interest in other people's lives in anglo-saxostan
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
02-07-2010, 17:39
So what? His job is to play football, has his performance gone down? No, his recent goal is proof of that. So what's the problem?
His job is to represent his country on the national stage, by playing football. Anyway, his tenure as Captain is over if he can't keep his hands off his teammates' girlfriends.
Rhyfelwyr
02-07-2010, 17:50
As team captain, Terry needs the respect of his players. And such a role is not just about footballing ability, it's also about personal qualities, and in that respect is something that really separates the role of captian from any other role on the field.
Plus, the fact that he slept with a team-mate's wife makes it fairly obvious that he is no longer suitable for the role of captain. Would you take orders from someone who cheated with your wife? Also, if someone did that to a friend of yours, would you continue to respect the captain?
I wouldn't mind press coverage if it debated this issue regarding the effect it will have on the football team, but sadly a lot of the coverage is just celebrity shock garbage.
None of the tabloid journalists are gettin' some.
Seamus Fermanagh
02-07-2010, 19:08
Hello....the footballer thing is about adulterous SEX. In WASP culture, sex is still thought of as naughty -- and therefore interesting.
This tawdry little tale can be understood by anyone; nice clear little lines of good and evil can be drawn readily; and there's plenty of pictures to add into the mix for those to whom more than a paragraph of reading is a bit of a bore.
Things like the national budget; the propriety of re-casting the "special relationship" etc. are simply too DULL by comparison. Therefore, you will receive 3-5 times the coverage on the footballer sex scandal instead of on how they're spending (mis-spending) your taxes. Our evening news lasts 30 minutes....followed by two half-hour shows on celebrities and their scandals. All is right with the world.
Sasaki Kojiro
02-07-2010, 19:11
If a friend of yours cheated on his wife wouldn't you talk about it, regardless of whether he was good at his job?
It is to do with the persons character. Having extra-martial sex with a friend's wife is betraying both his wife and his friend and team-mate. In a game like football, it is all about teamwork as well, and the team falls apart if one of the members is screwing over the other team-mates. Then the fact he did it, himself, paints a picture of a man with no-sense of honour, loyality or self-restraint.
However, what is more disturbing about the news reports is the fact the papers blame it all on John Terry, and it is a classic case of sexism. It takes two people in tango in the bedroom, thus there is an under-reporting of the other squad member having a s-word for a wife. Also, who is to say the other squad-members wife wasn't the one who suggested the sexual acts? Why it is all on John Terry?
Rhyfelwyr
02-07-2010, 21:01
However, what is more disturbing about the news reports is the fact the papers blame it all on John Terry, and it is a classic case of sexism.
Agreed, but I don't think it's a case of sexism against us guys here. I bet the only reason they never really considered the woman's role is that they'd already written her off as some bimbo.
Agreed, but I don't think it's a case of sexism against us guys here. I bet the only reason they never really considered the woman's role is that they'd already written her off as some bimbo.
True.
But it does sound like "Lock up your daughter, John Terry is on the prowl." It always takes two to Tango.
HoreTore
02-08-2010, 06:58
If a friend of yours cheated on his wife wouldn't you talk about it, regardless of whether he was good at his job?
Don't know, never been in that situation. I have been cheated on, however, and I only ever talk about that in hypothetical terms, and never to anyone who knows her. Like talking about how I reacted to it when already discussing the topic of adultery. I was pissed off about it, but it doesn't concern ANYONE other than me and her, and as such there is no need for anyone else to know.
With the sports star, a big part of it is about him not living up to his position as a role model. Of course the only reason the tabloids can go on about how horrible a role model he is, is because they told us about it in the first place. If they hadn't mentioned anything then all the little kiddies could go on looking up to their heroes. Another big part of the reason is that us anglo's still see sex as something a bit naughty, and people always like reading about people breaking the rules, whether it is so we can look down upon them, or so we can secretly admire them.
Louis VI the Fat
02-08-2010, 15:31
The Brits and sex
Yes, I'm talking about the John Terry case....
Why is sex scandals such a big hit in Britain and America? Why is the press dying for cases like this, and why does the readers care? I mean, John Terry is a fantastic footballer who unfortunately plays for an evil team, why does the brits care so much about which bedroom he sleeps in?
Yes, there are sex scandals in other countries too. But they seem to get a lot more attention in Britain. For example, our former health minister had been cheating on his wife for months, then divorced because of it. The press knew about it, but nobody bothered to make an article about it, until a gossip mag planned to do a story, and then all the fuzz was about how the gossip mag dared to invade his privacy... And isn't it specified in the French constitution how many mistresses the president is required to have? These are good questions that deserve serious scientific scrutiny and an exploration of the deeper sociological phenomena behind all of this.
My sources - up to the high standards the regular Backroom reader has come to expect of me - however, will adress none of that and instead serve to reveal more SCANDALOUS LIES and SORDID SEX by Shameless Terry:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/722092/John-Terry-tries-to-hide-FOUR-MORE-lovers.html
Pannonian
02-08-2010, 15:36
Terry lasted just 12 minutes (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/chelseas-john-terry-dropped-by-fabio-capello-as-england-captain-after-vanessa-perroncel-allegations-14669467.html)
England manager Fabio Capello has stripped controversial Chelsea star John Terry of the England captaincy
The move follows a 12-minute long meeting between the two men in the wake of days of revelations over Terry's alleged affair with the ex-partner of former Chelsea team-mate Wayne Bridge, underwear model Vanessa Perroncel.
His job is to represent his country on the national stage, by playing football. Anyway, his tenure as Captain is over if he can't keep his hands off his teammates' girlfriends.
I agree whole-heartedly. Additionally, this isn't the first time he has done it either. Not only that:
He was caught red handed selling private tours of Stamford Bridge ("and over here is where our groundskeeper and Nani got into a racist spat") and people basically let it go. But he sleeps with one French underwear model and the country is outraged!
These are just the latest scandals, folks. This is not a good guy and never has been. Back right after 9/11 he and several other Chelsea teammates got drunk in an airport bar and mocked Americans. And even if you were outraged about him being a philanderer it’s not like this was the first time! He’s cheated on his wife and the mother of his children like what, 6 times? That we know of!
Not only that, but his mother is a shop-lifter. Now, why is the mother of a man earning £130,000 a week shop-lifting? Perhaps it's because he doesn't spend any of that cash to assist her.
HoreTore
02-08-2010, 17:00
I agree whole-heartedly. Additionally, this isn't the first time he has done it either. Not only that:
Not only that, but his mother is a shop-lifter. Now, why is the mother of a man earning £130,000 a week shop-lifting? Perhaps it's because he doesn't spend any of that cash to assist her.
None of which seems to have any impact whatsoever on his ability as a central defender. Nor his ability to inspire and command those around him(which he will still have to do as a central defender, even though he's not a captain anymore).
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
02-08-2010, 17:26
None of which seems to have any impact whatsoever on his ability as a central defender. Nor his ability to inspire and command those around him(which he will still have to do as a central defender, even though he's not a captain anymore).
Englishmen don't follow Currs too well. Why is this hard for you to understand?
al Roumi
02-08-2010, 17:32
Some funny comments here :laugh:
I think Fabio's shot himself in the foot somewhat: what player in the English team is both a regular feature in the first team and can claim to be honest and have a good reputation?
...so he goes and chooses (drugs ban) Ferdinand! LOL
al Roumi
02-08-2010, 17:32
Englishmen don't follow Currs too well. Why is this hard for you to understand?
pff. Not too hubristic at all.
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
02-08-2010, 17:44
pff. Not too hubristic at all.
It's not hubris, there's a clear cultural gap here.
...so he goes and chooses (drugs ban) Ferdinand! LOL
And Steven "assault and affray charges" Gerrard as VC.
He could have picked, Frank "make my family live in a apartment, while I stay in the family mansion during divorce proceedings" Lampard. But, that's a little wordy. At least it wasn't Ashley "ONLY £55k A WEEK!!!/philanderer" Cole. My preference would have been Wayne Rooney, despite his granny habit. :beam:
Pannonian
02-08-2010, 17:50
Some funny comments here :laugh:
I think Fabio's shot himself in the foot somewhat: what player in the English team is both a regular feature in the first team and can claim to be honest and have a good reputation?
...so he goes and chooses (drugs ban) Ferdinand! LOL
Let's look at the foot he's shot. His load of wastrels he calls his team is useless, and some of them can't walk without a limp. Dick Whittington himself would fail with this lot, shouting until his face was blue. Balls over the top all the time, no finesse at all.
HoreTore
02-08-2010, 18:05
Englishmen don't follow Currs too well. Why is this hard for you to understand?
What was that "thou shalt not judge others"-thing again?
al Roumi
02-08-2010, 18:28
Englishmen don't follow Currs too well. Why is this hard for you to understand?
It's not hubris, there's a clear cultural gap here.
Er, fine I'll speak a little plainer: What you said is :hairy and hangs:. Or are you personally vouchsafing for all English leaders???
And Steven "assault and affray charges" Gerrard as VC.
He could have picked, Frank "make my family live in a apartment, while I stay in the family mansion during divorce proceedings" Lampard. But, that's a little wordy. At least it wasn't Ashley "ONLY £55k A WEEK!!!/philanderer" Cole. My preference would have been Wayne Rooney, despite his granny habit. :beam:
Exactly! Thankfully Gary Nevile is no longer on the team, the wretch.
Let's look at the foot he's shot. His load of wastrels he calls his team is useless, and some of them can't walk without a limp. Dick Whittington himself would fail with this lot, shouting until his face was blue. Balls over the top all the time, no finesse at all.
Now steady on, it's one thing to slate the team's morality - quite another to start mud-slinging such ugly rumours that they would stoop to the long-ball game... :wink:
HoreTore
02-08-2010, 19:50
Exactly! Thankfully Gary Nevile is no longer on the team, the wretch.
You can't hate the man with the best porn moustache in history!
Louis VI the Fat
02-08-2010, 19:59
You can't hate the man with the best porn moustache in history!Come on! You can't speak those words and not give us a pic!
https://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7048/garyneville1803241.jpg
Hmmm....'1988 German porn star' look indeed.
Now there's a football player who obviously does not have to rely on cash and fame to attract the attention of the fairer sex....
Hah! I thought Gary looked familiar:
https://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1796/riberyneville.jpg
HoreTore
02-08-2010, 20:13
Mothers! Lock up your crack hoes! :smash:
Pannonian
02-08-2010, 20:20
Footballers with Moustaches (http://blog.sport.co.uk/Football/417/Top_Ten_Footballers_with_Moustaches.aspx)
Rudi Voller has a perm as well as a moustache. Socrates looks impossibly cool though.
Edit: Gain 20 manliness points from watching this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zelMbnH-DEE).
Louis VI the Fat
02-08-2010, 21:02
Footballers with Moustaches (http://blog.sport.co.uk/Football/417/Top_Ten_Footballers_with_Moustaches.aspx)
Rudi Voller has a perm as well as a moustache. Socrates looks impossibly cool though.
Edit: Gain 20 manliness points from watching this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zelMbnH-DEE).Socrates is not ugly - he simply tries to look it, just to rub in he is still better looking than you and superior in every other aspect as well. What a legend.
The ugliest player in European football:
https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7966/kouyate.jpg
Aemilius Paulus
02-08-2010, 23:00
Edit: Gain 20 manliness points from watching this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zelMbnH-DEE).
What is so surprising there? A penalty shot scored is nothing unusual. Penalty shots from that distance with no defenders (I only know the official term for that in Russian - my knowledge of futbol is entirely in Russian) tend to succeed more than they fail from what I have seen. And before I turned 11, I never missed a single Confederations Cup or the World Cup match.
HoreTore
02-09-2010, 00:14
What is so surprising there? A penalty shot scored is nothing unusual. Penalty shots from that distance with no defenders (I only know the official term for that in Russian - my knowledge of futbol is entirely in Russian) tend to succeed more than they fail from what I have seen. And before I turned 11, I never missed a single Confederations Cup or the World Cup match.
Of course. But that's not what's special about that penalty, the awesomeness comes from the arrogance he displays taking the shot.
Louis VI the Fat
02-09-2010, 00:35
What is so surprising there? A penalty shot scored is nothing unusual. Penalty shots from that distance with no defenders (I only know the official term for that in Russian - my knowledge of futbol is entirely in Russian) tend to succeed more than they fail from what I have seen. And before I turned 11, I never missed a single Confederations Cup or the World Cup match.It's the outerworldly coolness of Socrates - philosopher, musician, doctor. In his spare time, he played some footy too.
A true World Cup needs the drama of a genius team not winning it. One of the best examples is Brazil's 1982, captained by Socrates. Back when Brazil was still the hottest ticket in world football: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZxvYy5-ekI
Exquisite.
Socrates is not ugly - he simply tries to look it, just to rub in he is still better looking than you and superior in every other aspect as well. What a legend.
The ugliest player in the Ligue 1:
https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7966/kouyate.jpg
Why the picture of Hannibal Lector?
Louis VI the Fat
02-09-2010, 00:41
Why the picture of Hannibal Lector?To explain the nature of French football to you all. The Ligue 1 consists of two types of players: huge black Hannibal Lectors with machetes up their sleeves, and small, very agile, very scared French players who can run really fast, like Gourcuff and Ribéry.
(well, he's from Anderlecht really)
Edit: http://forum.sport365.fr/printthread.php?tid=2589
Strike For The South
02-09-2010, 00:46
To explain the nature of French football to you all. The Ligue 1 consists of two types of players: huge black Hannibal Lectors with machetes up their sleeves, and small, very agile, very scared French players who can run really fast, like Gourcuff and Ribéry.
http://www.creepygif.com/images/thumb/10.jpg ([URL]http://www.creepygif.com/image.php?i=10)
Adrian II
02-09-2010, 00:57
The Ligue 1 consists of two types of players: huge black Hannibal Lectors with machetes up their sleeves, and small, very agile, very scared French players who can run really fast, like Gourcuff and Ribéry. I've missed this. :grin3:
It's quite simple, you can't trust him with your wife.
I can. If you or some footballer can't trust your wives, that's your problem. Don't blame Terry.
Alright, now that I've set the parameter, you can resolve the rest of the issue yourselves, can't you lads? :coffeenews:
Strike For The South
02-09-2010, 01:27
I've missed this. :grin3:
I can. If you or some footballer can't trust your wives, that's your problem. Don't blame Terry.
Alright, now that I've set the parameter, you can resolve the rest of the issue yourselves, can't you lads? :coffeenews:
Exactly, agreed 100%.
*Shameless plug to get a reply from Adrain :blush:*
Strike For The South
02-09-2010, 02:16
I would also like to be the first to say the Limey's will use this as an excuse, when the USA mudstomps them 6-0 in the world cup, and then we will have sex with all your wives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a completely inoffensive name
02-09-2010, 02:23
What is this world cup you all speak of? I only know of the Stanley Cup (some obscure Canadian thing) and the baseball World Series. /ignorantamerican
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
02-09-2010, 02:24
I've missed this. :grin3:
I can. If you or some footballer can't trust your wives, that's your problem. Don't blame Terry.
Alright, now that I've set the parameter, you can resolve the rest of the issue yourselves, can't you lads? :coffeenews:
No, you can trust your wife with Terry, not Terry with your wife.
See?
Nice to see you again.
Strike For The South
02-09-2010, 02:31
What is this world cup you all speak of?
Idk but the Mexicans get all riled about it. I think its a chili cook off or a siesta contest or something
No, you can trust your wife with Terry, not Terry with your wife.
It takes two to tango sweetie. She could've just as eaisly said no. This Terry guy can't be that good. The wimmen folk are just as much at fault in these kind of suituations
*defending Adrian when he's not here*
There's a reason the US was so dire in the '98 World Cup. (http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/66/united-states/2010/02/03/1773795/former-usa-coach-admits-dropping-john-harkes-in-98-over)
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
02-09-2010, 09:59
It takes two to tango sweetie. She could've just as eaisly said no. This Terry guy can't be that good. The wimmen folk are just as much at fault in these kind of suituations
*defending Adrian when he's not here*
Which is not what I said. "You can trust your wife with Terry, but not Terry with your wife." Regardless of whether Terry can manage to sleep with your wife or not, he's the sort of man who would try.
Furunculus
02-09-2010, 11:00
It's quite simple, you can't trust him with your wife. We don't like that, the fact it was a team-mate's girlfriend only compounds the offence.
hah, first i have heard of the affair, and i guess you pretty much nailed it*.
* no pun intended
Adrian II
02-09-2010, 12:45
*defending Adrian when he's not here*
I may be neither here nor there, but I'm with it. And I've been watching you all this time, grasshopper. *cackles* You must be the darling of the gods!
Pannonian
02-09-2010, 13:37
Socrates is not ugly - he simply tries to look it, just to rub in he is still better looking than you and superior in every other aspect as well. What a legend.
There was no need for a military alliance to counter the might of the USSR. All we needed was Socrates (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc8-GPJtDI8&feature=related).
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