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Biowulf

07-10-2010, 00:45

My current Romani campaign, 150 B.C.

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From East to west: The Carthaginians are the new Iberians, they almost went crazy in Gaul but I took the African cities and gave the Aedui a lot of money every turn.
The Lusotannan are down to just Burdigala after a hard-fought war between them and Carthage.
The Aedui killed the Arverni early on and had the Sweboz as protectorates once before. They would have died against the large Carthage stacks, but diplomats intervened and saved them. As of now they are beginning to push into Iberia against Carthage.
The Casse are sitting pretty on their island
The Sweboz lost the war against the Aedui and now they sit and try to take on the rebel super stacks. A couple settlements revolted to them but they haven't expanded or tried to attack anyone.
Me: I took Sicily, Corsica, and Sardinia early on, then went to war against all the Greeks. I started with Epeiros, then invaded the Koinon by sea, and the Maks betrayed our alliance. Only Epeiros remains on the Greek mainland, and the Koinon died before I wanted them to. Then I bummed around for a bit, building up and watching the world until the Carthies attacked through Gaul at which point I launched one failed campaign into Africa. My second attempt went far better and after a 14 year war I kicked them out. Once I took Lepki, the Seleukids betrayed me and now I might just send some armies over and take Egypt from them.
The Getai have been good neighbors and are former allies. They went south against the rebels then north against the Sauro's and have kept them in check along with Hayasdan.
Epeiros was once mighty, but no longer. They sit in Byzantion mourning their former empire.
Makedonia was forced down to just Mytilene, but now they've grown. They single-handedly took out Pontos and I had to stop them from killing off Hayasdan once before. I couldn't be bothered to save the Armenians a second time, but they might just expand and take the lands east of the steppes.
The Ptolemies no longer exist thanks to the Seleukids. They were beaten down to just Salamis and launched failed naval invasions that surprised the hell out of me. They managed to take Rhodes for a couple turns before I nabbed it back. Then they lost their last family member and disappeared.
The Seleukids are a somewhat comeback story. They lost Antioch before even a year was out, but from Damascus and Edessa they took it back and rampaged throughout the Ptolemaic lands, squashing them, the rebels, and the Parthians. Right now I'm at war with them and have to bribe a lot of armies coming my way.
Sauromatae are surviving only because of rebellions and luck. They look to be on their last legs because they can't even expand anymore.
Hayasdan is on its last legs as well, losing both Armavir and Mtishketa in the same turn. hopefully they will survive a bit longer because I think Makedonia is coming east at me.
Parthia has stayed alive because of rebellions and never has more than 4 or 5 settlements to its name. I expect they'll survive for a while yet, but they'll never thrive.
Baktria! my favorite faction in this campaign. they were down to 3 regions, 2 indian and 1 eastern, but they fought their way back into supremacy against the Saka. Once Baktria regained their capital the Saka had no chance and were slowly beaten down. I thought they would end up like Parthia, but no such luck. They were killed off while I was fighting in Africa.
Edit: The Sabaens are holding off the Seleukids by virtue of rebellion and large homeland stacks. The Sele's managed to threaten the Saba capital once or twice but nothing came of it.

So there you have it. It's been fun and I've been moving slowly trying not to kill of factions myself, although I may have to in order to keep my borders safe. I'm at a point now where I'm not sure where to go, so if anyone has a suggestion I'm willing to hear it.

Mulceber

07-10-2010, 05:43

In the immortal words of Cato the Elder:

"Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam." [Therefore I urge that Carthage ought to be destroyed.] -M

Paltmull

07-11-2010, 19:02

Is the grammatical and orthographical sub-mod for EB still active/around? Look at the Avgvstvs trait and read the first line. It reads:

What it should say is the following:

Don't forget

He has made an end to the countless civil wars and gave the roman people peace and unity again
which should be

He has made an end to the countless civil wars and given the roman people peace and unity again
or

He made an end to the countless civil wars and gave the roman people peace and unity again

and

for this deeds the senate[...]
which should be

for these deeds the senate[...]
or

for this deed the senate[...]

:2thumbsup:

Cute Wolf

07-12-2010, 11:00

Taken from the first page:
Mine is not max efficient either, but you guys decide which blitz is better.
~Fluvius

yeah, taking stone walled cities after cities in Hellas proper is notably harder than assaulting wooden walled cities that scattered along the north Nomadic lands, you still better than me fluvius :bow:

but 10 years could made a big difference, looking for now secure Asia minor that could be relied to pump out Pontic Thorakitai and Galatian Nudists every turns

Mulceber

07-13-2010, 04:39

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/193/2/4/Caesar_watches_by_mulceber.jpg

Caius Iulius Caesar surveyed the battle unfolding in front of him calmly, affected only by the slightest hint of apprehension. It was impossible to tell which side the struggle was favoring. It wasn't just the dust being thrown up by the two armies, although that was not an insignificant factor. Rather, it was the fact that both sides were alike in almost every way. Both were of Roman - or rather, Italian - extraction. Both were fighting in the cohortal formation of the Roman legions. It was even likely that some of the soldiers on his side were the brothers or cousins of those on the other side. Looking at these soldiers of common blood fighting, it was difficult to tell who was winning and easy to forget why they were fighting in the first place.

They were fighting for the Res Publica, for the memory of his father, Decimus Iulius Caesar Gallicus. Rome had been shocked, two years ago, when the Consul Gallicus had been killed on the steps of the Curia on his way to a meeting of the Senate. The murder had been followed immediately thereafter by a massive street brawl between the supporters and enemies of his father and the battle had enveloped the whole crowd. Several of the assassins had been killed in the ensuing violence. Even though his body had not been found, it was assumed that their leader, Nm. Cornelius Sulla, must have been killed there as well, for he hadn't been seen since.

In the wake of the murder, Claudius Pulcher had offered to take Caius into his protection, citing his close friendship with the young man's late father. Caius had not trusted Pulcher while his father was alive, though, and saw no reason to trust the crafty old man now that Decimus was dead. Leaving his family's town house, he had fled to his father's legions, camped just outside the city. When he announced the murder to the troops they had been almost mutinous, pressuring Caius to let them
loose on the city to kill the murderers. After a moment's consideration, however, Caesar had demurred. At that point he still did not know everyone who had been involved, and without such knowledge, the situation would undoubtedly have turned into a bloodbath - a bad way for his father to be remembered and an even worse way to begin his political career.

Instead he had delivered a rousing speech and persuaded his father's legions to march north with him. From a distance he would be more able to observe political events as they unfolded, would be closer to his father's old friend, Aulus Scipio, and might even do some good for the Res Publica by discouraging a warband of Helvetii who seemed poised to attack the cities of Cisalpine Gaul. In his camp near Mediolanum, more news had come to him. Pulcher had taken charge of the four legions in Campania and the remaining assassins, realizing that the political situation was now well out of hand, had fled. T. Cornelius Sulla and T. Cornelius Scipio had departed from Brundisium for the east, most likely to seek the aid of N. Papirius Cursor, who was fighting a hard-won campaign for Mesopotamia against the Bactrian Empire, as well as the tribes of the Saba, who had just broke their treaty with Rome. Pulcher was said to be in pursuit, but with four legions he was unable to match the pace of the assassins. P. Papirius Crassus and K. Iunius Silanus, meanwhile, had crossed over to Libya, hoping for aid from Tb. Cornelius Scipio, who had just completed the conquest of Upper Egypt.

Now that the situation had revealed itself, Caesar's course of action was clear. He ordered his men to break camp and marched down to Capua where the Tyrhennian fleet was stationed. Using what little authority he had as Quaestor, he commandeered the fleet and set sail for Kyrene. And now he found himself in the plains east of the city, fighting Scipio and the two assassins.

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“Let's get a closer look,” he nodded laconically to his bodyguards. Ahead and to his left he noticed a breach in the lines. Leading his men, he charged through the gap, finding himself behind enemy lines.

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At this closer vantage it was easier, both to see where the fight was going, and to give aid to his soldiers. Selecting an area in the fighting where the enemy seemed to be particularly stretched, he charged their rear ranks, retreated again before they could respond, and repeated the process until the hapless legionaries panicked and fled. From here he signaled to the centuria he had just aided to go to the aid of their fellows who were still fighting, before he continued on to another weak point in the enemy line and battering them.

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Before long, the enemy's center was in full rout, and, remembering Herodotus' description of Marathon, he took care to instruct his men not to pursue the routers, but instead to concentrate on the wings.

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Fighting there too was harsh, as his men had just been charged by Kaeso Silanus' bodyguards. Diving in with his cavalry, Caius launched a vicious counter-strike against them, and they were slowly enveloped, caught between the cavalry and the infantry. The last to fall was Silanus, who was stabbed in the throat and fell off his horse to be trampled in the onslaught. “Sic semper sicariis,” [thus always to thugs] said Caius, more for his own benefit than for anyone else's. In the end, the battle was won. Stripped of his army, Tiberius Scipio surrendered himself to Caesar, who pardoned him and bestowed upon him many gifts in honor of his campaigns in Egypt before sending him home to Rome, alone but unharmed. P. Papirius Crassus was found dead, late in the day, apparently having chosen to fall on his sword. Of the enemy soldiers, Caius used some to recoup his own losses in the battle and sent the rest to Alexandria to serve as a garrison for Egypt.

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Now it was time to march east, for two assassins remained, as well as two invading armies of easterners and a man who might be a friend, but just as well could be a foe.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/193/f/b/fighting_them_there____by_mulceber.jpg

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/193/4/6/Judea_by_mulceber.jpg

XSamatan

07-13-2010, 10:23

The first shot is epic! Could you upload this in the original quality? Would be a great wallpaper...

XSamatan

Jebivjetar

07-13-2010, 11:38

Pahlava, 123BC

https://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9361/pahlava.jpg

Cute Wolf

07-13-2010, 11:50

where is the Saby'n Jeb? if you kill em, why are u let their homelend empty? Sprinkling salt on Arab lands?

Mulceber

07-13-2010, 14:02

The first shot is epic! Could you upload this in the original quality? Would be a great wallpaper...

XSamatan

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/194/1/6/wallpaper_quality_by_mulceber.jpg

:wink: -M

Jebivjetar

07-13-2010, 15:11

where is the Saby'n Jeb? if you kill em, why are u let their homelend empty? Sprinkling salt on Arab lands?

Yup, i destroyed Saba, sacked their population and tear every settlement of their to pieces (the wonders i didn't touch).

Cute Wolf

07-13-2010, 15:21

at least if you keep them, you could gain extra 10000 minai per turns from those mines

chenkai11

07-20-2010, 05:39

Didn't play for a while. Here is my current Sabaean Empire.

Western front
Trying to fight my way and gain more territory in Egypt. But the Ptolemaioi is too strong in economy. They can recruit stacks of medium and elite units, at the same time depleting the mercenary pool.
https://img413.imageshack.us/img413/330/0060j.jpg (https://img413.imageshack.us/i/0060j.jpg/)
Eastern front
I allied with AS, accepted my help to attack the Ptolemaioi and gain military access. I sent 2 generals with a full stack army try to sneak in and sack seleukeia and baylon and divide their attention on my western front. I paid up Persian mercenaries and add up my army into 2 full stack ready for the mission. But then the enemy suddenly show up from all direction (I had my spies scanned the area) destroyed one of my army stack. Leaving the other stack fighting their way not into Seleukeia and Babylon, but rather their way back to home territory. It's lucky they did make it back home after several turns, only 40% men survived.
https://img843.imageshack.us/img843/9485/0059.jpg (https://img843.imageshack.us/i/0059.jpg/)
This is the army fighting their way back home while the ration is from rationing to starving.
https://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5948/0062.jpg (https://img837.imageshack.us/i/0062.jpg/)
Northern border
https://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1569/0061.jpg (https://img839.imageshack.us/i/0061.jpg/)
Some battle screens
https://img826.imageshack.us/img826/5859/0058k.jpg (https://img826.imageshack.us/i/0058k.jpg/)
https://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9245/0056.jpg (https://img834.imageshack.us/i/0056.jpg/)

Mulceber

07-20-2010, 13:58

Nice Empire - yeah, I think the AS tend to have it easier when it comes to fighting the Ptolemaioi: Alexandreia is pretty close to the Seleukid border, and once that city is gone, the Ptolemaioi becomes significantly weaker as they're unable to produce their best units. -M

chenkai11

07-21-2010, 01:37

Mulceber

07-21-2010, 03:49

Proceeding east, Caesar landed a week later in Iudaea with his four legions, only to find the province in a state of crisis. The tribes of the Saba had recently invaded the Levant and already besieged more than one city in an attempt to loosen Roma's grip on the region. Pulcher had come through six months before, and his arrival had provided some relief, as the Saba had been forced to lift the siege, for fear that his four legions might fall upon them. Pulcher's aim, however, was to kill Gallicus' assassins, and as soon as the Saba had lifted the siege he had moved on to Mesopotamia, effectively leaving the situation unresolved. As much as Caius was tempted to follow Pulcher's example and ignore the problem in favor of vengeance, he knew that revenge would be small comfort if the entire region fell into chaos. Thus he decided to divert from his plans to deal with the Saba. Engaging them in the wooded hills southwest of Bostra, Caius found the Sabae to be tenacious, despite their lighter armaments, and for quite some time he was unable to flank their force. Finally though, once a few units had routed he was able to maneuver his bodyguard, Gallic auxiliary cavalry and a few cohorts and partially surround the Saba army, who were slowly worn down and destroyed.

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Their general's bodyguard being were last to fall.

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It was as the legions were reordering themselves after the battle that a messenger from one of the informants Caius had inherited from his father arrived: C. Claudius Pulcher was dead. None of the locals seemed to know any of the details, though in truth, Pulcher had died marching through Mesopotamia. He had contracted a dreadful disease that caused his bowels to rot, a clear curse from the gods and a sign of their disfavor. Thoroughly spooked, the men had refused to march any further. Pulcher, already weak, somehow managed to leave his tent to address them. He was delirious and railed against his men, calling them treacherous curs. They, in turn, became unsettled and began muttering angrily. Visibly growing weaker, Pulcher began to rant incoherently and the soldiers were becoming more agitated by the minute. Finally, in mid-sentence his voice faltered, he swayed for a moment, collapsed and thereupon expired.

Command of the four legions was given to Sv. Atilius Balbus, Pulcher's subordinate, who seized command by promising to march the legions home. Thus, making an about-face, the legions of Caius Claudius Pulcher began to make their way to Sidon where a fleet could return them to Italia. It was on this march that Balbus' forces met those of Caius Iulius Caesar, which were advancing through the aluvial plains to dispense with the two remaining assassins.

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The leaders of the two armies advanced on horseback, meeting half-way between their respective battle lines. Caesar spoke first, thanking Balbus for his services in keeping the men in good order and bringing them to meet their new commander. Somewhat insulted, Servius stated that he had not marched the legions through Mesopotamia to give them over to Caesar, and asked what qualifications for Imperium Caesar possessed that he himself did not as well. Caius was taken aback, but rallied and responded evenly that both his legions and those of C. Claudius Pulcher had last been under the command of his father, who was now worshiped as a god in Roma, and that he knew of no better man to command a god's legions than the god's son. Balbus scoffed at the divinity of Caesar Gallicus, whereupon Caius responded coldly that Servius' theological beliefs were irrelevant, but that he himself nonetheless had every intention of taking command of the four legions previously under the command of C. Pulcher. At this point, Atilius Balbus spat derisively at Caesar before he and his entourage turned and made for their battle lines.

Caius too returned to his lines and instructed his men to hold their ground and fight if Balbus' legions showed hostile intentions - which, he confided, they probably would. His suspicions were confirmed moments later, as the opposing army began to advance upon them. When they came into range, Caesar's legions cast their pila and charged.

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The enemy was possessed with a mad desperation, which swiftly turned to panic when Sv. Balbus was killed in the center of the fighting. The enemy legions had retreated to their camp within the hour and surrendered shortly thereafter. Caius ordered them to expand their camp to be large enough to also accommodate his own men and then camped the eight legions together. Caesar's mercy and the presence of his well-disciplined men had the effect of improving the morale of the rebellious legions and inspiring loyalty in them.

Meanwhile, Caesar set about devising a means to deal with Nm. Papirius Cursor - the proconsul of Mesopotamia - and the assassins he was sheltering. A battle was out of the question. Morale among the four legions he had "acquired" from Balbus was improving, but still nowhere near the point where they were combat-ready. Furthermore, Cursor was already in the middle of a war with the Bactrian Empire. If he and Caesar were to come to blows now, there was every likelihood that Mesopotamia would be lost to Bactria. Even if it wasn't, Cursor was a skilled commander, and his death would undoubtedly be a setback to the Roman war effort in the region. Thus, Caius concluded, diplomacy was his best tool. He sent a courier with a message for Cursor. In it, he informed the proconsul that he was here to avenge the death of his father. Mentioning this was of course just a formality, as he had no doubt that Cursor knew very well why he was there. He told Numerius that he knew the murderers were being sheltered by him, but that he had no desire to bring his eight legions to bear against a faithful son of the Res Publica. In exchange for the assassins, he offered his friendship, and aid against the Bactrian Empire. Beset as he was on all sides, Numerius Cursor agreed to most of the terms. Five days before the Kalends of May, the assassins, T. Sulla and T. Blasio, held a symposium, their last night in the land of the living, and ended it with a round of Pompeian wine laced with arsenic.

This business dispensed, Caesar sent emissaries to the king of Bactria. He lamented the breach that had been made in their friendship, but noted critically that the King had been the first to resort to violence. He informed the king that he and Cursor had twelve legions between them and that if a peace was not brokered they intended to expand further. As terms of peace he demanded no indemnities nor additional land, merely an official recognition of Roma's hegemony over Mesopotamia on the part of Bactria. Pressed on other fronts by the insurgent Parthian kingdom, the King agreed.

Since matters in the east had now been put to order, Caesar endeavored to return his legions to Italia. As a guarantee against further Bactrian encursions, he stationed the legions obtained after Pulcher's death near Babylon so that they could be at Cursor's disposal if needed. Then he proceeded west with his four legions to Antiocheia where his fleet was awaiting him. From there he set sail for Brundisium, stopping on the way to annex the island of Rhodos, the last foreign shore in the Mediterranean.

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From Brundisium he marched north for Roma, and when news of this reached the city, many resigned themselves to another absolute ruler. In this they were to be surprised. When he arrived in Latium, Caesar circumvented the city and made for the Field of Mars, where he set up camp. He recognized the illegality of entering the city while commanding an army, even if the army wasn't with him, and so sent a messenger asking the Senate to convene in the temple of Mars outside the boundaries of the city. At this meeting he informed the Senate that he had brought the Res Publica to peace and stabilized her provinces. The Senate applauded him and offered to make him Consul for life, but he demurred.

Caius had been busy in the east, but not too busy to consider the future - or, for that matter, the past. He had loved his father, but he had known that Decimus' domination of the Consulship for five consecutive years had not been popular. It was undoubtedly the reason he had been killed, and Caius had no more intention of having the same fate than he did of giving up power, so instead he asked three things: first, that in honor of his achievements he be given the old title of Princeps Senatus, which would allow him to speak first on any issue; second, that he be given the powers of a tribune so that he could continue to advocate for the peace and stability of the Res Publica; third that he be given overall command of all proconsular armies, so that he could continue his work of stabilizing and expanding the provinces. The Senate, relieved that Caesar had no intention of holding the Consulship hostage like his father, accepted.

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The new Princeps swiftly began a program of military reforms to bring more efficiency to the army. In his estimation, the old Lucullan Cohorts fought well, but were difficult to recruit in the provinces, due to the smaller population of Roman citizens. To remedy this he standardized the auxilia that had often fought alongside Roma and made them a regular part of Roman armies. They would be equipped to nearly the same standard as legionaries and would receive citizenship as a reward on their retirement. He sent his father's re-equipped legions north to garrison Panonia, with the exception of one legion's worth of his best veterans, who were reorganized into a bodyguard force that would be named for their proximity to Caesar's military headquarters, the Praetorium.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/201/f/7/the_Praetorian_Guard_by_mulceber.jpg

Just so you guys know, this is going to be my last post about my Imperium Romanum - I may not have achieved the faction objectives, but I've played the Romani before and seen the victory screen, so that wasn't really my objective in doing this little project. I may return to it at some point, but I'm ready to do other things in EB, and, at any rate, I've accomplished my objective - role-playing the Romani to the Augustan era.

Next up...

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Arthur, king of the Britons

08-05-2010, 12:58

bump

Things are going pretty well for me:

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Starkast.jpg

Olympiades is perhaps the best FM I've ever had:

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/11TheKinG.jpg

Seriously take a look at those traits: Insanely Brave, Demagogue Absolutely Just Infatry Commander of Genius, Logistician. On top of that he has no bad traits whatsoever...

And the rebels are just plain evil:

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Intesnllt.jpg

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Armavir.jpg

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Patavium.jpg

Mulceber

08-05-2010, 15:57

Man, you really struck the jackpot with that character! Those are some of the best stats I've ever seen. Keep on fighting those treacherous rebels! Your Basileus' justice will win the day. -M

MButcher

08-05-2010, 17:41

Arthur, king of the Britons - May I ask what those modded units are in your second picture?

Arthur, king of the Britons

08-05-2010, 18:20

@Mulceber, They will hang! :hanged:

Looking forward to seeing more on your Seleucid Empire. :beam:

Arthur, king of the Britons - May I ask what those modded units are in your second picture?

Glad you asked! :beam: They are called Xipphospherontes Thorakitai Makedonikai ( Sword-bearing Makedonian Thorakitai/Armoured ones), Basileus Olympiades experimented with the concept while campaining in Iran and he plans to make them the rank-and-file troops - replacing the now outdated regular Thorakitai - of the Makedonian Empire after the the Civil War is over (since it's a bit hard to make empire-wide-reforms while fighting a civil war of this size). They are basically Hellenistic Legionaries

Here's a link to the mod (I didn't make it):

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?127639-Sword-Armed-Thorakitai-%28using-Ptolemaic-Basilikon-Agema%29-plus-some-other-things..

Jebivjetar

08-09-2010, 20:18

Pahlava, 105BC.
I'm at war with almost everyone: mighty Carthaginians, Baktria, Romaioi, Lusitanians.

https://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3414/pahlav105.jpg

anubis88

08-09-2010, 20:32

God i hate AI expansion

WinsingtonIII

08-09-2010, 22:16

Holy crap that's a lot of Lusitanians

Arthur, king of the Britons

08-09-2010, 23:12

Pahlava, 105BC.
I'm at war with almost everyone: mighty Carthaginians, Baktria, Romaioi, Lusitanians.

https://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3414/pahlav105.jpg

What the... How did the Lusos grow that big?

Anyways, great parthian empire. :wink:

Brave Brave Sir Robin

08-09-2010, 23:18

Holy crap that's a lot of Lusitanians

The exact thing I said lol.

Though I'm sure their armies are full of Lugoae

TuCoT

08-10-2010, 07:29

Good Parthian Empire Jebivjetar. :)

Jebivjetar

08-10-2010, 08:18

@ Anubis: i ain't no lover of AI behavior either. Anyway, the good thing in this random AI expansion is that i had opportunity to fight SPQR and the Lusos with Pahlava (the latter besieged my Byzantion, and captured it twice: the city, on my surprise, revolted back to me in both cases).
@ Brave Brave Sir Robin: i wish they had those levy spearmen in their armies: in fact, they attacked me with a bunch of Rhaetic axmen/Luso light inf./Luso medium inf and many other of their native units (silver and gold chevroned: real pain in teh ass): it was somewhat challenging to fight them off, especially when the battles were fought in the woods near Byzantion, where my HAs couldn't perform well.
@Strategos Arthy: ty! As for your question: Lusos went on steroids at one moment and easily vanquished Aedui and Arverni: i guess some powerful gods are on their side :D
@TuCoT: Ty :)

Chris_

08-10-2010, 11:07

I like how despite holding most of Europe, the Luso still haven't managed to take that Carthaginian settlement in southern Spain. They always seem to ignore it.

Jebivjetar

08-10-2010, 12:02

I like how despite holding most of Europe, the Luso still haven't managed to take that Carthaginian settlement in southern Spain. They always seem to ignore it.

Oh, they took it, but the settlement revolted back to Carthage. As i'm at war with both Lusos and Carthage, they send all their troops on me and only me, despite the fact that they are at (formal) war between each other too :no:

anubis88

08-10-2010, 19:04

Oh, they took it, but the settlement revolted back to Carthage. As i'm at war with both Lusos and Carthage, they send all their troops on me and only me, despite the fact that they are at (formal) war between each other too :no:

Don't be surprised if they declare a ceasfire, and ally the next turn... That often happened to me, when playing Pontus... The AS and the Ptolies would declare an alliance and team-up on my 3 province kingdom :D

Brave Brave Sir Robin

08-11-2010, 03:49

Hehe, happened to me on my Hayasdan campaign too. I'll post pics soon.

Biowulf

08-11-2010, 04:35

https://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w74/PQR1/RomeTW2010-08-1023-24-24-31.jpg
A new campaign I started not long ago, it's on VH/M and the year is 245 BC. Care to guess who I am? :P

Cute Wolf

08-11-2010, 07:12

makedon...

Mulceber

08-11-2010, 13:26

I'm gonna guess KH. -M

MButcher

08-11-2010, 15:33

Ptolemies.

Unintended BM

08-11-2010, 20:53

Saba.

Arthur, king of the Britons

08-11-2010, 21:13

Isn't it obvious? Arvenni.

Rahl

08-11-2010, 21:14

Sweboz.

Jebivjetar

08-11-2010, 21:47

Eleutheroi :D

Brave Brave Sir Robin

08-12-2010, 04:06

Either KH or Maks. Im gonna go KH.

plutoboyz

08-12-2010, 10:41

https://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w74/PQR1/RomeTW2010-08-1023-24-24-31.jpg
A new campaign I started not long ago, it's on VH/M and the year is 245 BC. Care to guess who I am? :P

epeirote?

Atraphoenix

08-18-2010, 19:13

This is my Patient Pontic campaign that I have betrayed because I missed my Horse archers and Catas :laugh4:

https://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4521/rometwalx20100809044900.jpg

and this is mt return to my lovely Horse archers.
I stopped my blitz and at the moment I am quite busy wşth the united forces of AS and traitor Ptolemy and Saba.

https://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4222/rometwalx20100816235344.jpg

I had stopped my blitz but I think Ptolemy will not allow me to live in peace until I repulse them out of asia.

FriendlyFire

08-24-2010, 07:53

I'm in my first campaign where I'm using move_character to keep empires alive (and having a lot more fun by doing so!), instead of boring myself to tears with hell-for-leather expansion. This is a Makedonian H/M campaign in 247 BC:

https://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab296/FoECarthage/Empires/Mak247-zoom.jpg

The two empires that I've helped so far:

Koinon Hellenon: I conquered their homelands in 270 BC, leaving them only the island of Rhodes. When they got Halikarnassos by revolt from the AS, I moved their "lost army" from Crete to Asia Minor help the revolution. So far they've kept the AS at bay. Note that Pontos took Ankyra on their own, and are now busy churning out Celtic troops.

Epeiros: I conquered their homelands in 267 BC, leaving them only Taras, but I also moved their final defeated stack over to Italy. They used this stack to take Arpi, and then spent a decade trying to take Capua. While this was happening, the Romans slipped down south and captured Taras. So I sent a troublemaker FM to Italy with a few Greek mercenaries and a big warchest to hire more (I actually tore down the Athenian Acropolis to fund the expedition). He was defeated, hired even more mercenaries, finally conquered Taras, then gave it back to the Epeirotes and marched on Capua. Many tense battles later, he captured Capua, sacked it and gave that to the Epeirotes as well. Now my FM has returned to Makedonia, and the army he led is gradually dispersing outside Capua (I disband one unit per turn, as Epeiros builds up strength and can stand on its own feet again).

Fluvius Camillus

08-24-2010, 23:43

Sounds like a nice game, FriendlyFire. However watch out that the Epeirotes dont grow too strong, or else you will miss out on the Hysteroi Pezhetairoi.

~Fluvius

Arthur, king of the Britons

08-26-2010, 20:23

Hermolaos - the uncle of the Basileus - leading the Western Olympiades-loyalists that have been cut-off from the East, is making some progress in Iberia, and to secure victory in the West, he in his drunkenness, strikes a deal with the now-unified Gallic tribes; In return for seeding the remaining Gallic lands to Vergalla, the Gauls promise to aid him and the Arche Makedonike in the war against the Genos Klerios and their Iberioi allies. He also strikes an alliance between them, on Arche Makedonike’s behalf.

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Alcho.jpg

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Alllyyy.jpg

The relatively young Vergalla Vollorix, Convictolitavis moc Dejotaros
is hardly a trustworthy man, being known to many as a man of deceit and also being a source of concern for the more wise members of the Makedonian Royal Family:

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Celt.jpg

Olympiades have his hands full with dealing with the rebel scum in Asia, and cannot at the moment spare the troops to deal with this issue in the West. He also feels that the internal power struggle should be resolved before starting another war. Reluctantly he sends couriers to Convictolitavis telling him that he agrees on the terms set up by his uncle, though in private he woes to one day deal personally with his confused, senile and drunk uncle, along with the wretched Celts in Gaul.

To counter Genos Klerios massive troop deployment in northern Italia Olympiades gives an army to the young and promising Attalos, the first army not commanded by the Basileus himself using the Xipphospherontes Thorakitai Makedonikai as its backbone:

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Attalos.jpg

In the East however, things are far less complicated with Olympiades obliterating every army that oppose him, though showing his mercy for those who surrender before him. He also makes sure his army raids and pillages as little as possible, hoping to win over the locals by other means than brute force alone. By the ninth year of the Civil War (136 BC), opposition is all but broken in Asia Minor.

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/ArcheMakedonike136BC.jpg

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/OlympiadesArgeades-1.jpg

Also in the same year, Carna, the last (Olympiades Loyal) Makedonike client kingdom in Arabia falls. No longer having an excuse to kill one another the Saba Confederacy sends envoys to Olympiades, suing for peace. Olympiades agrees, seeing the futility of War against a nation he doesn’t share borders against.

In 136 BC, things are mostly going Olympiades way, the finances are restored, his enemies are fleeing or surrendering before him, but there is still much to do before he and Makedonia can truly feel at ease. And so he marches on:

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Marchonepicversion.jpg

Ps Comments on this not-so-consistent pseudo-"AAR" are appreciated.

Mulceber

08-26-2010, 23:36

Looks like Olympiades truly has his hands full. Good ending, btw, I liked the picture of the troops ending to punctuate it. -M

Olaf The Great

08-26-2010, 23:52

Can you tell me the code for the purple color that macedon has? I'd like to use it for Hayasdan because it blends too much into the ocean

Kikaz

08-27-2010, 01:57

I usually just increase the green a touch and decrease the blue to create a tealish color (kinda like in vanilla), to stay at least somewhat true to the original colors.

Arthur, king of the Britons

08-27-2010, 15:37

Looks like Olympiades truly has his hands full. Good ending, btw, I liked the picture of the troops ending to punctuate it. -M

Thanks, btw are you getting any time over for that Arche Seleukeia campaign of yours?

Can you tell me the code for the purple color that macedon has? I'd like to use it for Hayasdan because it blends too much into the ocean

It's either 102 0 102 or 102 0 51 - I don't rember, sorry :shame: -, also I'm not at me EB computer, so it will take some time for me before I'll be able to look over my EB files. I'll try and get and get back to you later though.

It's 102 0 102.

Daiyoukai Ramza

08-29-2010, 01:56

Since my last post, I've started (and dropped) a number of campaigns, but the only one that's noteworthy is my most recent attempt at Hayasdan. It's on hold for now, as I became rather annoyed at fending off constant attacks from Baktria and the Ptolemaioi...

https://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Daiyoukai_Ramza/EBScreenshot9.jpg

My Orontid Persian Empire (has a nice ring, if I do say so myself) stretches from Mazaka in the West all the way to Persepolis in the east.

I've fully implemented the Persian reforms for every city east of--and including--Seleukeia & Babylon, except for the one directly north of Persepolis, due to my lacking the other cities required to implement that expansion tier. Oh, and Edessa hasn't been reformed yet, due to the same reason.

Despite this, it's the closest to the "center" as I can get, so it was my Capital when I put the game on hold.

Oh, and look at Italy. It's amusingly ironic that the faction colours there happen coincide with the modern Italian flag's colours, thought Epeiros' green is a bit dull. Still, it made me chuckle.

Anyway... on to my current campaign.

https://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Daiyoukai_Ramza/EBScreenshot10.jpg

Playing as the Romani, obviously. I'm not really attempting to expand historically, nor am I trying to expand all that fast.

I'm currently at war with the Aedui and Epeirotes, although they're very low intensity wars. The Gauls are busy fighting a losing battle with the Lusitani, and the Epeirotes, oddly enough, apparently want to kill the Getai more than they want to kill me.

Epeiros originally owned Dalmation and Segestica, but when I attacked Epidamnos, they sued for peace the next turn. I renegotiated the deal to include Dalmation, Segestica, and Epidamnos, expecting them to turn me down, but they agreed to part with those cities, albeit with ~80k mnai added to the deal. I immediately garrisoned those cities with free legions I had sitting around (gotta spend the copious amounts of cash I make somehow... ~65k army upkeep and counting, yet I still make 30+ thousand per turn,) expecting them to attack.

They did, of course, but only against Epidamnos, albeit it was a full-stack... with like Chaonion Agema, too. I won with ~300 losses to their 1400. I was quite impressed that my Polybian Hastati managed to hold the line against those Chaonion Agema, and with acceptable losses--one unit lost ~70 men, while the other lost 10-20 each. A few of my principes managed to get 100+ kills with just javalin spam, too.

In any case, Epeiros doesn't seem too dangerous at the moment. No, I'm worred about the Lusitani, who all of a sudden went berserk and started steamrolling the Aedui. Why, just four or five turns ago, the Pyrenees was (roughly) the border between those two... and then *BAM* like... five or six full stacks poured out of Iberia and just ripped right through everything in their path. :shocked:

I believe it would be prudent to strike at the Lusitani now, before they take all of Gaul. Any suggestions as to the route I should take? I could cut across to the Atlantic from Massilia, then north to... er... Britanny. Alternatively, I could just invade Iberia itself.

Valion

08-29-2010, 03:44

Is that campaign map EB? its graphics is different from the EB i have or is that from Alex.exe or BI.exe?

Daiyoukai Ramza

08-29-2010, 04:17

Is that campaign map EB? its graphics is different from the EB i have or is that from Alex.exe or BI.exe?

Yes, it's EB. The different graphics are due to a modification that replaces the default EB campaign map textures with ones from Roma Surrectum.

Unintended BM

08-29-2010, 05:09

Huge images.

https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/RomeTW-ALX2010-08-2900-01-30-39.jpg
https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/RomeTW-ALX2010-08-2900-01-07-53.jpg
https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/RomeTW-ALX2010-08-2900-00-58-75.jpg
https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/RomeTW-ALX2010-08-2900-00-35-97.jpg

Blxz

08-29-2010, 06:19

Having an issue with getting screenshots from my current EB 1.2 BI.exe game. I've got screenshots before, print screen and copy to paint. Or get the tga's from the folder and convert them over to JPEG. But either way seems to be giving me a black screen in the photo's now. Anyone encountered this before and know how I might fix it?

Daiyoukai Ramza

08-29-2010, 06:42

Blxz

08-29-2010, 11:15

Yes, I did have AA on. Thanks for that. Didn't even realize I had set it.

This is my sweboz game currently. Date is about 225BC give or take a year. Original goal was control of the baltic but the Sauro's developed a rage that I would choose to border them and declared war. I went east and liberated Gawjam Basternoz and took up to Gelonus and Olbia. After that they agreed to a ceasefire, trade rights and then an alliance all in the one diplo screen. A turn later and both Getai and Rome decided that I was their new target. Rome took Vindobona since I was out of position but is currently under seige and is filled with apeleuthoroi; not a chance against my germanic naked fanatics and chatti spearmen. The getai are seeing the other end; they were unable to take any towns and they are just about to face both my main army from the steppes (almost all baltic troops...archer heavy) and my rebel town killer that just took Ak-Ink by seige without an AI sally because it was large enough. Beautiful pincer attack.

https://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af98/Blxz/swebozgame.jpg

War goals are a bit vague. I want to destroy the Getai because I don't like them very much and because that was my original war direction for later with my rebel killer army. I also have a wierd pleasure in holding Byzantion as the Sweboz.
As for rome, I think I'll take that little eastern bit they have between me and the Epirotes but leave them the Po valley region and as much of gaul as they want for now. This will be a world conquest in the style of Fluvius Camillus if I can hold my nation together long enough. Will be nice to see a world conquest Sweboz but I am worried about public order in the long term. Game play speed is a sort of rushed roleplay. I am managing my family members and not adopting much/at all anymore and essentially only warring when I find a partially justifiable reason. Progress will be sort of slowish mainly as I need to consolidate in order to keep the empire together in the later years.

EDIT: Of note around the world:
Pontus was a major power holding Asia minor up to Tarsus and Trebizond. They have since begun a minor collapse with Getai taking Byzantion what I think was a Halicanassus KH rebellion but might have been a naval invasion and the Macedonians becoming their traditional unstoppable force once they lose macedonia proper. The AS has recovered well and held up to Ankyra until just before this screenshot. Maybe pontus is coming back?
Saba has been fighting hard. Both rebellions and actual conquest. They did hold Sinai region and Gerrah and charax but have since lost a small amount of ground. Its actually hampering the Ptollies alot, I have been checking up with toggle_fow and seen some massive fullstacks kicking Ptollie arse.
Parthia was a giant before but has since lost almost everything as the AS recover, mostly probably because the Ptollies have stopped attacking as they fight back and forth with the Saba.
Epirus WAS dominating but the KH is on the ascent. Taken about 3 towns in greece in the last 10 turns or so.

Everything else has been pretty boring.

Revoltie

08-29-2010, 15:59

https://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1198/makedonia.jpg

This is my Makedonian empire around 266, my primary target was Pontus (who took Byzantiun), bu then I was attacked by the Getai (who had an awesome development), who attacked tylis, I offered them a ceasefire with the condition of giving me one of their towns, and they surprisingly accepted, now I'm fairly well with them, I bought something like, four regions, and I'm in doubt whether to attack pontus or keep buying Getai land until they are weak enough for a final attack.

Given the fact that both the Barbaroi and the Getai are in Eastern Europe, I think I'll need to dispatch some more full stacks there, I have one at Naissos now.

Daiyoukai Ramza

08-30-2010, 02:45

Yes, I did have AA on. Thanks for that. Didn't even realize I had set it.

<Snip>

Glad to be of service.

In regards to your campaign fighting the Sauros with the Sweboz? Good thing you have access to Baltic Archers; otherwise it would be a nightmare fighting the Sarmatians with such an infantry-focused faction.

I notice that the Arverni are doing pretty well for themselves, which pleases me. It doesn't happen nearly often enough, IMO. They usually hang on, but just barely. And sometimes, especially when I'm a faction that's nearby, they end up getting wiped out within 10~20 years, like they did in my current Romani campaign.

<snip>

Dang, that's some impressive AI expansion for so early in the game. What difficulty are you playing on?

Still, that's a very secure base for further expansion, although I'd take Serdike as well, if only for the awesome Thracian units one can train there.

...

Anyway, a small update on my romani campaign. I made peace with Aedui, then allied with them (...and got military access with a bit of financial incentive,) which apparently pissed of the Lusitani, given that they attacked me a few turns later. I repelled the attack, albeit with high-ish (30%) losses, mostly because 1. That was my first time fighting this particular faction and 2. That stack was filled with highly experienced (3 bronze chevron and above) troops. Several more attacks ensued, all of which were repelled.

Once those attacks had passed, I launched a counter attack at the nearest Lusitanian town: Gergovia. Now, that town had an absurd garrison--very experienced--so I had to starved it out. The problem? It would take seven turns, and there were 10+ enemy half to full stacks in the area.

Thankfully, I had three legions stationed on the border, with another two on the way, so I besieged gergovia with one of them, while the two others blocked all possible approaches from the south. What ensued was seven turns of lopsided victories, which ended with me taking Gergovia, then suing for peace in exchange for Tolosa.

Revoltie

08-30-2010, 04:05

I'm playing Vh/h with the Realist Movement Mod.
Serdike has almost a full stack of thracian troops, If I besiege it, I'll have to wait, and I don't want to, I don't trust the Getai, but I'll do it sometime.

Blxz

08-30-2010, 11:54

Glad to be of service

No prob.

Yeah, the averni were doing even better before but then for some reason lost their capital to the aedui who then immediately lost it to the romans. So it looks like rome will take them all over soon =(

As for fighting the sauro's.....it involved alot of defensive battles and ambushes. The reason I pushed as far as Gelonus and Olbia is that I can now recruit my own horse archers from each of those. So my force will be horse archer heavy if we happen to have another war. Of course, i need money. Only got 3 mid size armies in existence and every town is almost fully upgraded economically but still no more than 2 or 3K in the bank at any time. I am fully mobilzed at the moment. I can not make much money out of the steppes and baltic regions.

Valion

08-30-2010, 15:57

Biowulf

08-30-2010, 18:48

Back again with my campaign, it's now 235 BC and quite a few things have changed.
First off I am playing as KH and it's been a very interesting campaign so far.

The world so far and my main army:
https://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w74/PQR1/RomeTW2010-08-3012-43-32-53.jpg
It's made of my best general leading the original troops I used to subdue Asia Minor plus some recently recruited top-end troops. It performed very well in it's first battle so I'm optimistic that it'll go far.

Early in the game I decided if I couldn't win the battles in Greece then I would see if I could stage a comeback from the islands. It only took 5 years, but Makedonia did it, they completely destroyed my armies in Greece and captured Athens and Sparte. By that time the Sauro's had taken the Bosphoran cities but they rebelled to me, as did Halikarnassos. My first bid for Asia Minor ended in failure as the Seleukids destroyed the rebel army I had formed and re-took Hali. Then Pergamon rebelled to me, and Hali again. From those two cities I attempted to make a secure position. Until about 250 I didn't have anything resembling a secure foothold. I negotiated an alliance with Epeiros, and now they're almost dead. I was at war with the Ptolies, but I took Ipsos from them and killed many armies so they asked for a ceasefire, then I allied with them and haven't been bothered since. Pontos made the mistake of challenging me with skirmisher armies so I destroyed them. I also needed the trade across the Pontic sea to my little colonies. Out of a sense of desperation I accepted a protectorate agreement from Makedonia so I could have time to secure my position in Asia Minor. Up until a few years ago that is :P I took Byzantion again and held it against a huge army made of decent troops. Only 14 Makedones survived out of 3400, and the general was not one of them. Right now I'm marching towards Tylis with my main army and the Seleukids took a break from fighting the Ptolies to besiege Amaseia >.>
My main general, Niarchos Samios, still only has 5 stars, and mediocre traits, but he's pretty much all I have right now. He's been the saviour of the Greek alliance and I wish his stats would show it. Anywho, that's my campaign so far and I really don't know what the future holds since Seleukia is still a huge threat and so is Makedonia.

From West to East:
Luso's are expanding fairly quickly and tried taking Burdigala. I think they'll explode out soon and take over the world.
Carthage is bumming around, expanding a little bit and I don't think they're at war with anyone yet.
Casse are being the Casse.
Romans are expanding around the Aedui and a little in Iberia. They're at war with the Gallic tribes and allied with the Sweboz. they took Gergovia from the Arverni and just recently took Lemonum.
The Aedui are holding in Gaul and will either fall to the Romans or Lusos
The Arverni are as good as dead, they never do well in my campaigns
The Sweboz are having fun taking over Central Europe and will probably move into Gaul soon.
Epeiros never did well, which sucked because then the Maks could concentrate on me first. Now they face annihilation since both cities are under siege by superior forces.
Makedonia gained control over Greece fairly early and have had all the time in the world to expand and build. They went to war with the Sauros to take Kallatis and might have gone all the way to Olbia if I hadn't distracted them so much. As it is, they're much stronger than I am so I don't expect much success in war against them.
Getai are being good neighbors and sitting on their current settlements like bumps on a log.
Sauros are in a big war with Hayasdan and currently losing since they just lost Uspe. They'll probably come back, but who knows.
Ptolemies are beating the Seleukids for now, but have stopped their conquests since I allied with them. They do have Antioch and out to Palmyra so I doubt they'll get pushed back anytime soon.
Seleukia is doing well considering what they've lost. They're in a stalemate against Parthia. Now they want to pick on me, so we'll see what happens.
Pontos is dead, I killed them.
Hayasdan is going north as usual
Saba aren't doing a whole lot, just dealing with the lands they get from rebellion and whatnot.
Parthia is trying to expand but aren't doing a very good job of it. They're locked in against Seleukia for now.
Baktria was doing pretty well and going towards those Indian provinces, but lost Baktra so I doubt they'll last very much longer.
Saka is doing very well and will probably take over the whole east and India, then watch out...

My southern border and islands:
https://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w74/PQR1/RomeTW2010-08-3012-44-04-06.jpg

The NE part of my little nation:
https://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w74/PQR1/RomeTW2010-08-3012-44-21-35.jpg
I hate the Seleukids

Revoltie

08-30-2010, 22:17

Seriously is that at 266 BC? Looks Like the AI did a blitz with all the factions! In my VH/M Romani campaign at 265 BC the AI has only conquered few settlements within thei region like casse has only gained one region over the 7 years.

Yeah, I know what you mean, that is probably caused by the Realist Movement Mod, I'm prety sure this is aroun 268 and 260

stratigos vasilios

08-31-2010, 04:21

Hey guys,

I'm not sure if this is going to work (My empire is attached), it's my first empire posting!

I'm currently the Romans and have achieved the final reform! I've built some super armies and am ready to assault Britain!

Over the course of the Campaign the Ptolmey and the Seleukids struggled over Babylon and Seleukia for at least 100 years. One would hold it for 20 turns...then the other would hold it for 20 turns... Eventually the Seleukids outmuscled them and won over the Eastern empire.

The Seleukids also ventured north to destroy the Saka, yet they have not finished off Baktria yet.

The Sarmations took out the Hai (only recently) but before that the Hai had an empire spanning into Anatolia. Pontus didn't put up much fight against both the Ptolmey and Seleukids.

Carthage had all of North West Africa until we met in Sicily and luckily for me, they had put a grand army into ships which I wiped out with my fleet.

Gaul was my first target and fell completely around early Marian times. I did not want to get into a war with the Sweboz but unfortunately it happened, it was so hard to drive them off but once I started I kept going until I had all of Northern Europe.

Iberia grew unchallenged in the west until it met Gaul.

Atm I'm at war with Seleukia but have a loose alliance with Sarmatia and Saba. I would want to take Britain but I'm gettin 2500 from trade with Camulosadae which I'm liking. But Culture penalty in the East is killing me so I'm losing alot of money on garrison troops, that, and Seleukid keep pestering my borders.

So in the end, this campaign turned into 3 large empires (Rome/Sarmatia/Seleukia) and 3 smaller ones (Britain/Saba/Baktria).

Daiyoukai Ramza

08-31-2010, 05:29

Time for an update on my Romani campaign.

https://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Daiyoukai_Ramza/FutureMarianReformer.jpg

As one can see, I've completely eradicated the Lusotannan, thanks mostly to the FM in the screenshot.

Kaeso Avreilivs Cotta is far my best general, and the only one without the accursed "lover of beauty" trait. He's also the man I'm hoping will cause the Marian Reforms for me, although I still need to... acquire... seven more territories for all the non-FM-related conditions to be met, aside from him becoming Consul. Right now he's gearing up to liberate Gaul from the, er, Gauls.

...

It's for their own good, to protect them. From the Sweboz.

Yeah, that sounds good. Let's go with that. :evilgrin:

Hey, what do expect from someone who made one of the Romani's "mobilize" musics the Imperial March.

Valion

08-31-2010, 06:31

Yes, it's EB. The different graphics are due to a modification that replaces the default EB campaign map textures with ones from Roma Surrectum.

Cool! If i use that Modification is it save-game compatible? :)

Daiyoukai Ramza

08-31-2010, 07:59

Cool! If i use that Modification is it save-game compatible? :)

It's a purely cosmetic mod, so I'm 99% certain it's save game compatible.

Biowulf

08-31-2010, 14:53

@Daiyoukai Ramza: What .exe are you using? That's some really good AI expansion by Hayasdan and Pontos, much better than they ever do in my campaigns.

Daiyoukai Ramza

09-01-2010, 02:12

@Daiyoukai Ramza: What .exe are you using? That's some really good AI expansion by Hayasdan and Pontos, much better than they ever do in my campaigns.

I am using BI.exe, for the increased chance of Naval Invasions.

Seems to have worked, since Makedonia and/or Carthage ship a stack towards me every couple of years.

Anyway, Hayasdan's expansion has been quite impressive, especially since they expanded primarily towards the south(east), when they usually expand north.

Pontos... well, I've seen better expansion from them. And unfortunately, they got gobbled up by the yellow death, leaving them with only their Bosphoron and Skythian holdings.

The only thing standing between the yellow death and me is Epeiros and Makedonia, and I really don't find the prospect of fighting the Ptolemaioi a very appealing prospect, to be honest. Epeiros is bad enough with their elite spam (lol, half a stack made up of Chaonion Agema,) and the Ptolemaioi are worse in that respect. In fact, I usually drop games in which the Ptolemaioi become the Yellow Death, and the only thing preventing me from dropping this one is the prospect of the Marian Reforms.

...so that's why I used add_money to put them several million in the hole, and give a few of their enemies--Saba in particular--several hundred thousand Mnai. Yes, it's cheating, and no, I don't care. Should've done it a long time ago.

Mulceber

09-01-2010, 04:58

Right now he's gearing up to liberate Gaul from the, er, Gauls.

...

It's for their own good, to protect them. From the Sweboz.

Yeah, that sounds good. Let's go with that.

Hey, what do expect from someone who made one of the Romani's "mobilize" musics the Imperial March.

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

Berg-i-dum

09-03-2010, 10:59

Roman Empire 176 B.C.

http://i54.tinypic.com/bdmp75.jpg

War in two fronts:

-Iberia almost subjugated, the last cartaginian city was conquered, only remains Celtiberia under Lusitani controll, as the last region to be liberated :inquisitive:

-Long Campaing against Carthago, some punitive attacks in the coast, the capital was completly destroyed -and after that rebelled-. Delenda est Cartago :book:

Germani assaults in the Limes.

Swap wars in Asia Minor between Makedonia and Pontos, but in Peace both with Rome, they send tributes.

Pahalava and Hayasdan have their own Empires in the East, and currently are allies.

I hope to have the Marian Reforms soon.

Atraphoenix

09-03-2010, 20:30

Yeah, I know what you mean, that is probably caused by the Realist Movement Mod, I'm prety sure this is aroun 268 and 260

It was 260 if you had not changed it.
I build lots of forts to counter side effects other than I have no complaint on it.

And this is my last campaign.
Hai wants their capital back. Shahanshah had already appointed a satrap for it.
A bloody war still goes on.
I have gave some cities back to makedonia before getai wipe them out.
I stopped blitzing and I am consolidating my power on mesopotamia and iran and I was quite busy to build reformed goverments which will give me my lovely catas :laugh4:

https://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4809/rometwalx20100903213022.jpg

anubis88

09-05-2010, 10:26

God i became nostalgic for my Pahlava campaign... I played it till 80 BC or so, when i launceh a huge expedition (well one stack, but with 1 FM, 1 Grinpavar, many HA's and an elephant unit) on conquering Arabia, and poor Saba got their ass kicked so badly i felt pity for them. I must just as well give them another shot if i have the time :)

kwibbels

09-05-2010, 19:11

my epeirote empire
epeirote-Paint

NoHelmet

09-05-2010, 20:58

https://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9522/pahlava1.jpg

AS is on it's deathbed. Sauromatae are being conquered at the moment, and yes, Ptolemaioi have betrayed me, and Pontos is about to, despite annual voluntary tribute of 200... But, i have no worries, i have a stabile heartland, good armies and good generals.

And for the Casse, good old Barae, the best faction leader ever!!! Sweboz ousted, now to Spain!!! And quite a decent war with Romaioi is ongoing...

https://a.imageshack.us/img827/7949/cassep.jpg

The_Blacksmith

09-05-2010, 21:51

@NoHelmet Woaw! how do you hold all those regions with out riots and revolts?! :dizzy2:

Im having probs with my Pahlava campaign, too many riots...

NoHelmet

09-05-2010, 22:12

The_Blacksmith

09-06-2010, 08:01

Well, i am quite a ruthless despot, i exterminate most of the cities i conquer, so that usually solves the problem. It had to be done if i was to blitz eastern part of the AS... However, there were problems, in Seleukeia and Chighu (!), to be precise. I had to abandon them and sack them again. And there was a fullstack garrison that was needed elsewhere, so i had to do what i had to do. Build sewers & temples, those are the most effective peacekeepers in this situation, after that use the town garrison (building).

Hah, minds me of me, Capturing Persepolis for the first time i tought, im gonna be nice and Expel the higher classes, buuut.... when i saw it made -4000 Mnai and was Angry no matter what... i fail... xD

But, thanks Sanitation is my savoir at the moment... as is Millitary Occupation

Arthur, king of the Britons

09-06-2010, 14:18

Amazing empire(s) and amazing Faction Leader. Here have a balloon; :balloon2:

Duguntz

09-06-2010, 14:32

congratulation NoHelmet! it's a nice empire you got there! No wonder whwen we see the hero you got as a leader!

NoHelmet

09-06-2010, 14:59

Amazing empire(s) and amazing Faction Leader" Here have a balloon; :balloon2:

My first balloon, thanks!!! I have more fun campaigns, but not the time to upload them, or play at the moment, but more are on the way! Just to finish the exams, then back to EB!

Valion

09-06-2010, 17:09

Is that normal EB your playing NoHelmet? i'm impressed by how many command starts your faction leader has :)

NoHelmet

09-06-2010, 17:44

That's the faction leader you start with, playing with Casse, he is a teenager on the beggining of campaign, so he had quite a military history, and since he "wants to see Rome before he die", i plan on granting him that wish. And yup, it's "vanilla" EB. Although i've seen some saka monsters that had 10 stars and their traits didn't add up, but this guy is 100% natural.

Ludens

09-07-2010, 12:25

my epeirote empire
epeirote-Paint

Hello kwibbels, welcome to the .Org and to EB ~:wave: .

I am afraid you cannot display photos directly from your harddrive. You need to upload them to a hosting service (e.g. Photobucket (https://photobucket.com/) or Imageshack (http://www.imageshack.us/)) first.

kwibbels

09-07-2010, 16:24

https://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa462/kwibbels1/epeirote.png?t=1283872981
here it is again hope it works now

Duguntz

09-07-2010, 16:30

already 256 BC? and you're not still in bactria??? tsss... slow... (Just jokin'! nice empire kwibbels)

Drunk Clown

09-08-2010, 17:23

already 256 BC? and you're not still in bactria??? tsss... slow... (Just jokin'! nice empire kwibbels)

As you formulate it here, you say he started in Bactria and that he moved somewhere else. :no:

Lossmar

09-12-2010, 22:23

https://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1117/1041031943.jpg (https://img715.imageshack.us/i/1041031943.jpg/)

My small Baktrian Empire :)
And im just getting started :)

stratigos vasilios

09-13-2010, 15:50

Hi Lossmar, welcome to the forums!

You've made a good start there, keep us updated on how you go.

Blxz

09-14-2010, 08:09

Baktria is a fun faction to play. They were my first so I amways remember them. Only downside is the difficulty in using high end factional units against cultures too far west. All those beautiful indian units have to spend a lifetime walking over to the mediteranian.

panten

09-14-2010, 22:08

Warning: Big Pictures Ahead!

My current Seleucid campaign. I wanted to get away from the usual underdogs I play and really have a go at Empire. Needless to say it's been a load of fun. While I am playing a defensive campaign in the East, it is full throttle in the west. First thing I did was to repel the Ptolies from the Levant and Asia Minor then chased them back to the land of the Pyramids. When the Saba decided to get a piece of the cake to and stole a region from them I stopped the campaign and built a defensive position. So far Egypt is the most secure region in my empire, partly because of the massive military presence.

While my war with the Ptolies was going well and I could afford a second army, I decided to launch a preventive strike and rid the world of Pontos. It was a great surprise attack that wiped out over 80% of their military and made Sarpedon Syriakos the general of my choice - in the following years he annihalted Pontos, went around to fight the massive rebel armies that spawned while I was too poor to afford additional units to kill them, captured Cyprus, then killed his way through Anatolia and basically really has "Seen the Elephant", or due to lack of real elephant, the Coloss of Rhodos. Since he became a warmonger (fighting the endless rebel stacks) earlier, I decided to keep him fighting and gave him something special for his upcoming 60th birthday (just 8 more turns :D ) - Hayasdan!

Here is the initial attack, made by three armies. Sarpedon with his veteran army in the West,, my freshly recruited royal army and a small army that I usually use for rebel hunting in the East.
https://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7782/caucasiancam01.jpg (https://img72.imageshack.us/i/caucasiancam01.jpg/)

Since I can't hope for a longer campaign against the Hay and don't want to ship that army off to the Baktra-Saka-Fun-Land even (although they'd be really needed over there), I might start an invasion against Macedon, though since they killed off one of my family members when they invaded Rhodos. I had an army on the way to support the small garrison but it was too late. However, it was a satisfying death as he managed to defeat the enemy in a "last man standing" hit and run defense right in the town center and only died when just 7 of his bodyguards were left - 5 made it out alive in the end. Still, I want my revenge. From a playing point of view I am a bit reluctant though since no super power has yet emerged and I'm interested if one power can prevail. In any way, I'll find some use for that army. So far I haven't played a lot with elites so it will be interesting how they will do in battle, I might even add an elephant unit if I'm feeling rich. Maybe I'll go and trample a bit on the Saba...

Here's the army:
https://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4461/caucasiancam02.jpg (https://img651.imageshack.us/i/caucasiancam02.jpg/)

The southern border in Egypt:
https://img832.imageshack.us/img832/7098/egypt01.jpg (https://img832.imageshack.us/i/egypt01.jpg/)
That was the army that came all the way down from Antiochia and conquered every singly city on the way. I've reinforced them with another unit of Prodromoi and some more Thureophoroi, because Ptoly was throwing insane amounts of Machimoi cavalry at me and I needed more flexibility. In general this is my army composition in the west - works perfectly for me, especially since they amassed chevrons.

As you can see from the map (toggle_fow ftw), I got rid of Pahlava in the East and reduced Baktria to the bunch of cavemen they really are, but it is still a win-lose-draw on that front. With Pahlava I got besieged every turn, Baktria came every second turn until I hacked my way into their capital and burned it down, burned it down again and decided to stay and now Saka is knocking on the door. Initially they weren't as bad as Pahlava but I got basically raped in my last battle with them. Their cataphracts and archers decimated my army faster than I could say Antiocheia-Margiane. But it's part of the fun. I'm just fighting with lightly armored HA, axemen, basic phalangitai and persian archers (heavy if available - but logistics are a b!tch). It's the classic battle of the underdog and even if I'm thinking about venturing into the steppe I'm afraid there's nothing to gain financially and I might overextend my borders against a fast and hard to subjugate enemy. Maybe I'll kill off Baktria and regain India (even though keeping control of India would be hard)

However the campaign is one of the most fun I've had so far with some great battles and even thrill thanks to the hordes from the steppe.

NoHelmet

09-15-2010, 19:38

Back to Pahlava... Ptolemaioi fullstacks have perished into the syrian sands, just to find my single panzer brigade untouched, and poised to visit Megas' tomb. And, to my eternal surprise, pontic betrayal did not happen, yet. And this monster? God damn beast, in total +9 morale, +110% income from sacking, couple of healers, what can you ask more of an army leader?

https://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9923/pahlava3.jpg

Lazy O

09-16-2010, 10:30

Now thats an army :2thumbsup:

Skuda

09-20-2010, 23:18

Dominions of Aedui, 212 BC

http://img233.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-26246/loc366/19886_aedui_122_366lo.jpg

XSamatan

09-21-2010, 15:04

You picture isn't showing for me :(

Brave Brave Sir Robin

09-21-2010, 15:31

Yeah I'm not seeing it either

stratigos vasilios

09-21-2010, 16:52

Ditto.

The_Blacksmith

09-21-2010, 18:11

http://file:///C:/Users/ITC/Desktop/Daha.jpg

Well... i dont know how to upload pictures but im trying....

however, this is my 3rd try on the Pahlava Campaign...

i would had expanded faster, if i had more FM's with the trait "Wants to Settle" so i didnt have to pay unkeep for all the garrison units...

Skuda

09-21-2010, 18:50

Dominions of Aedui, 212 BC (second try)

https://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9647/aedui.jpg

Brave Brave Sir Robin

09-21-2010, 20:23

Skuda

09-22-2010, 18:27

Interesting, I don't ever think I've seen someone play one of the Gallic tribes and not start conquering the other right away. Are you using FD? I find it hard to believe you could hold off the Romans and Arverni simultaneously with so few provinces.

It's not that difficult if you have such a Vergobret and an army in Bononia

https://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4541/iccios.jpg

PS. I play my own minimod where spearmen's attack reduced by 4 points

Brave Brave Sir Robin

09-22-2010, 18:49

Hello chevrons. On a side note, I had an army that was similar in experience though larger in size in my Aedui campaign that walked all over the central european armies. I love how fast gallic infantry levels up in their campaigns.

Fluvius Camillus

09-22-2010, 21:53

Nice Faction Leader!

Why did you reduce spearmen attack?

~Fluvius

QuintusSertorius

09-26-2010, 13:14

As of 239BC, this is Pergamon and the various kingdoms who have joined the Pan-Hellenic Confederation (all have type IV governments and client rulers):

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/239BCmapknown.jpg

The game map now looks thus (still lots of rebels and no faction dead yet):

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/239BCworldmap.jpg

Minor update, now 235BC, and chaos successfully sown in Asia Minor. Check this out (I gave Mazaka to KH and Egypt bribed a much-weakened Ipsos):

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/235BCworldmap.jpg

The rest of the world:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/235BCmap.jpg

Lysimachos

09-28-2010, 07:29

QuintusSertorius

09-28-2010, 11:32

Looks like a really interesting campaign. Perhaps I should try something like it myself one time. Too bad I'm too lazy to mod :embarassed:

There's actually very little modding required to do this one. Edit the names (Epeiros to Pergamon, Epirote to Pergamene) in expanded_bi.txt (in \Data\text\), and change the colours (to whatever RGB combination you like - I changed the Ptolemies so it contrasted better with Seleukid silver on the minimap) in descr_sm_factions.txt (in \Data\). That's it for the modding, and even that's optional if you don't care what it looks like.

Then you start the game as Epeiros/Pergamon, use move_character to transport all your armies to Mysia, give Taras to the Romans for a ceasefire and trade rights, and once you've got Pergamon sell off everything in Epidamnos and Ambrakia, push tax up and let them revolt. You'll also need to disband your navy and get rid of your elephants. Helps to kill off Helenos Aiakides too.

Lysimachos

09-28-2010, 12:09

There's actually very little modding required to do this one. Edit the names (Epeiros to Pergamon, Epirote to Pergamene) in expanded_bi.txt (in \Data\text\), and change the colours (to whatever RGB combination you like - I changed the Ptolemies so it contrasted better with Seleukid silver on the minimap) in descr_sm_factions.txt (in \Data\). That's it for the modding, and even that's optional if you don't care what it looks like.

Then you start the game as Epeiros/Pergamon, use move_character to transport all your armies to Mysia, give Taras to the Romans for a ceasefire and trade rights, and once you've got Pergamon sell off everything in Epidamnos and Ambrakia, push tax up and let them revolt. You'll also need to disband your navy and get rid of your elephants. Helps to kill off Helenos Aiakides too.

Hey, thanks for the instructions. I just noticed in your screenshot that the Pahlavans own the city on the westcoast of the caspian sea. Is that by any chance your doing or did they manage to get in that strange situation all by themselves?

QuintusSertorius

09-28-2010, 12:42

Hey, thanks for the instructions. I just noticed in your screenshot that the Pahlavans own the city on the westcoast of the caspian sea. Is that by any chance your doing or did they manage to get in that strange situation all by themselves?

For once, it wasn't me!

johnhughthom

09-28-2010, 13:04

https://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp139/johnhughthom/Parni/testappa2010-09-2812-53-45-20-1.jpg

From my Pahlava AAR @ 223BC. Nothing terribly exciting, AS and Ptolies made peace ages ago, looks like the Carthies are going to kick some Roman butt and the Luso monster is about to kick into gear.

Hotseat_User

09-28-2010, 16:54

that white in the topright corner are the remnants of pontos?!?

Drunk Clown

09-28-2010, 21:54

that white in the topright corner are the remnants of pontos?!?

Hmmm, well Pontos' faction color is purple(ish). So it would make more sense it being AS, wouldn't you think?

QuintusSertorius

09-28-2010, 22:24

Hmmm, well Pontos' faction color is purple(ish). So it would make more sense it being AS, wouldn't you think?

Unless johnhughtom changed their faction colour of course.

johnhughthom

09-28-2010, 22:24

Yep, it's the AS holding that region, gone back and forth between them and the Saka a few times. Along with Baktria fighthing the Saka and Sauromatae, it has kept my eastern and northern borders free as they are all busy fighting each other.

Hotseat_User

09-29-2010, 10:02

hehe okay, it just seems to be a bit lighter than the usual grey from AS - so my guess was on Pontus :-)

NIKOMAHOS

09-29-2010, 19:38

My favourite KH campaign on VH/M.
https://img208.imageshack.us/f/kh2.png/

NIKOMAHOS

stratigos vasilios

09-30-2010, 16:46

Damn, that image isn't appearing for me.

Brave Brave Sir Robin

10-01-2010, 02:11

Nor for me. You need to upload images to a hosting site such as Imageshack, etc.

vollorix

10-02-2010, 04:50

After couple of funny, but "ctd" rich campaing starts with Sweboz, i´ve switched EB to BI.exe a while ago, and now i can enjoy the game the way it´s ment to be - not one crush anymore, great!

Well, actually, there is nothing spectacular concerning my campaign; i just wanted to share a small joy, when i´ve managed to "create" the Galatians, by conquering the last Arverni town in Europe. Of course, i had a bunch of a help from Aedui, who simply exploded on VH, and are now grabing the last rebel settlements around them, before they would knock on my door, and the Seleucids, of course, who have managed to let Ankyra rebell, so that i could take the opportunity to fulfill this plan.
Right now, Arverni FH and FL are aperantly moving towards Asia Minor, and i hope, they won´t be cut down, before they´ve riched their destination. Or, at least, i hope, another FM would pop up in Ankyra, so that the freshly established Galatian Kingdom could bring some exotic flavor to those distinct lands :)

I might add, that i´ve tweaked the EDU a bit to my tastings ( mainly concerning the units the Romans can recruit - only their natives + some "auxilla" cavalry, and now one can see quite balanced roman armies, containing of almost historical accurate unit compositions :idea2: and no more triari + pedites spam ), and tweaked some units´ stats too, wich actually has no real impact on the behavior of the AI, except the roman, of course.

Hier is the link: since the script on this side keeps poping up an error message:
http://www.abload.de/img/galatiaarvernilobt.jpg

QuintusSertorius

10-02-2010, 11:13

Why don't you use move_character to put those Arverni in Galatia?

vollorix

10-02-2010, 13:09

Well, it wasn´t my intention to create Galatians instead the Arverni, actually. It´s just the limitation of the engine, wich does not allow to have all the cool factions, but would spice up the campaign, that, through a sort of coinsedence, but still, a new faction "emerged" on the map, though, c.a half century later :) And since i´m playing on VH campaign this time, and those "Galatians" instantly made an alliance with Ptoleys and not trying to retake any settlements in the Gaul, i´m pretty confident, that they can play some interesting role in this campaign.

NIKOMAHOS

10-03-2010, 16:58

I use imageshack but the photo is not here.

I will try once more.

http://https://img208.imageshack.us/i/kh2.png/

NIKOMAHOS

NIKOMAHOS

10-03-2010, 17:01

Let's try a Luso campaign.
Maybe there is a problem with the KH image.

https://img529.imageshack.us/i/luso.png/

https://img529.imageshack.us/i/luso.png/

NIKOMAHOS

10-03-2010, 17:04

Posting images is not yet possible for me so here is a link for my favourite VH/M KH campaign.

https://img208.imageshack.us/i/kh2.png/

NIKOMAHOS

https://img208.imageshack.us/i/kh2.png/

A_Dane

10-03-2010, 17:45

I'd teleport those FMs down there :)

Lazy O

10-03-2010, 18:05

Your linking us the wrong link. It should say "direct link : blabla.jpeg" copy that one

Lysimachos

10-03-2010, 18:26

What you write in your post should look like this, without the two *:

[IMG*]https://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5158/kh2.png[/IMG*]

vollorix

10-03-2010, 23:42

I searched the forums for "move_character" console command, and i was so far been able to teleport the Aedui captains, but no matter wich name combination i´ve tried, i used to get error messages complaining that the character could not be found :(
Anyway, the leaders of the Aedui, now Galatians, are now located in Dacia, but Getai and Epirotes are at war and most of the passages are blocked by their armies. I wonder, if the guys will manage to finaly get to Ankyra...^^

FriendlyFire

10-04-2010, 03:20

I searched the forums for "move_character" console command, and i was so far been able to teleport the Aedui captains, but no matter wich name combination i´ve tried, i used to get error messages complaining that the character could not be found :(

Here's how: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?115705-Move_character-cheat..-need-help.&p=2201707&viewfull=1#post2201707
(from the original explanation by Mediolanicus)

Basically, if the Arverni guy's name is "Fred oi Flintstone", then you do
move_character "Fred arvernioiFlintstone"

(I did this yesterday, when I was starting a little Galatian empire in Antiocheia :smiley2:)

Andy1984

10-04-2010, 06:25

Posting images is not yet possible for me so here is a link for my favourite VH/M KH campaign.

https://img208.imageshack.us/i/kh2.png/

NIKOMAHOS
An impressive Koinon Hellenon-empire you've got there. Any chance you'll attempt a world conquest?

QuintusSertorius

10-06-2010, 20:37

217BC on M/M:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/217bc.jpg

Just concluded a war with the Ptolemies (they started it) which resulted in them being pushed out of Asia Minor and losing Kypros. Maybe now they'll focus on fighting AS?

And the world map:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/217bcmap.jpg

Some revolts and a bit of FD'd settlement switching to prevent the Arverni disappearing.

Gabicho

10-14-2010, 10:55

Current Baktria campaign.
I wanted to go slow, but i got annoyed by the Grey death multistack spam so i decided to throw them all the way back to Susa... they didn't stop so i had to throw them back to Bablyon... Didn't stop so i now intend to send them to Hades.
https://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x197/draconiselril/baktria2.jpg

Now, this campaign had a lot of twists and turns; Epirus was reduced to just Taras at one point. Rome used to control all of Italy (minus Taras and Sicily) plus 3 provinces in Gaul, and had the Aedui and Arverni as vassals. The Sauromatae almost wipe the Getai, but they've been driven off.
Saba survived a Ptolemaic invasion that even got to besiege their capital; they survived and even took Gerrha from the Seleukids. Koinon Hellenon were reduced to just Rhodes, Pergamon and Sparta at one point (by the Makedonians).
The Lusotannans are swimming in money, they have many full stacks stomping Gaul (they did quick work of Carthage early in the game).
https://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x197/draconiselril/baktria3.jpg

Ca Putt

10-14-2010, 12:23

I wanted to go slow, but i got annoyed by the Grey death multistack spam so i decided to throw them all the way back to Susa... they didn't stop so i had to throw them back to Bablyon... Didn't stop so i now intend to send them to Hades.
that's exactly what I expierienced in most of my campaigns first you just want to hold them off but then they get so annoying that you have to drive them off further and further until they're totally anihilated.

rotten

10-14-2010, 20:48

1. The Lusos look like a Vizigothic kingdom on steroids!

2. Lol helvetii, almost!

3. You'll have the same problem with the Ptolemaioi, though thankfully they have less territory.

LusitanianWolf

10-15-2010, 19:20

that's exactly what I expierienced in most of my campaigns first you just want to hold them off but then they get so annoying that you have to drive them off further and further until they're totally anihilated.
Its because of that I easly get bored of most of my campains that involve AS and dont play more with eastern factions, I just hate the neverending AS stacks and dont like the idea to have to blitz most of Asia....
What sometimes I do is to raid important areas, conquer, raze everything to ground and retreat (sometimes giving these dead zones to other factions with forced diplomacy to create a buffer state).

Hax

10-16-2010, 10:20

Now, this campaign had a lot of twists and turns; Epirus was reduced to just Taras at one point. Rome used to control all of Italy (minus Taras and Sicily) plus 3 provinces in Gaul, and had the Aedui and Arverni as vassals. The Sauromatae almost wipe the Getai, but they've been driven off.

Almost like an M. Night Shyamalan movie!

Lysimachos

10-16-2010, 13:37

Almost like an M. Night Shyamalan movie!

Yes, I believe I've seen that one! :laugh4:

QuintusSertorius

10-16-2010, 15:50

209BC:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/209BCmap.jpg

And the world (yes I recently did some FD re-ordering of the map):

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/209BCworldmap.jpg

panten

10-17-2010, 16:37

Some updates from my Seleucid campaign. It is 213 BCE and things are looking good.
All lost provinces have been regained and even though there is war on all fronts, the empire itself is at peace.

In the West Byzantion was taken to secure domination of Asia Minor and two veteran armies have been deployed to protect it against assault from the Macedonians and the Getai who are even fighting themselves for the right to attack first:
https://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2429/rometwbi201010171110324.jpg (https://img153.imageshack.us/i/rometwbi201010171110324.jpg/)

After a quick and highly succesful campaign against the Hai, the Caucasus has been conquered and after betrayal by the Sauromatae an advance has been made into the Steppe. Uspe was secured with little resistance to function as a buffer from the nomads and as soon as a permanent garrison has been established the army will continue to liberate the Chersonesos to open a two frontier war on the Getai to fully claim dominance over the Pontos Euxenos.

https://img2.imageshack.us/img2/2319/rometwbi201010171106479.jpg (https://img2.imageshack.us/i/rometwbi201010171106479.jpg/)

For the same reaon Tanais was assaulted by mercenary troops: to keep supply routes safe and provide a springboard and safe retreat should the campaign need to be abandoned. With no major battle yet fought against the Nomads it remains to be seen if the experimental tactics and troop composition will work as expected against a very mobile and dangerous enemy.

Also a nice overview over the other powers:

https://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4762/rometwbi201010171111252.jpg (https://img266.imageshack.us/i/rometwbi201010171111252.jpg/)

In the East, the situation has improved but is remains fragile like a cardhouse. Unreliable client rulers and massive nomad armies have led to a massive military presence to keep the borders safe. Small armies have been dispatched to guard the river crossings and hopefully keep raids at a minimum.

https://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9775/rometwbi201010171109104.jpg (https://img202.imageshack.us/i/rometwbi201010171109104.jpg/)

In the South, the Saba have been pushed back from their advance on royal territory and an expedition is on its way to secure the southern border and to welcome Gerrha into the Empire.

https://img179.imageshack.us/img179/954/rometwbi201010171106126.jpg (https://img179.imageshack.us/i/rometwbi201010171106126.jpg/)

The Seleucid royal army has also been highly succesful in securing Seleucid interest and to stabilize the southern front and after being retrained they will either join the fight against the Getai or will once again push to the borders of India.

https://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3456/rometwbi201010171105578.jpg (https://img525.imageshack.us/i/rometwbi201010171105578.jpg/)

Fluvius Camillus

10-19-2010, 00:00

Nice Empire, I'll post mine too soon, its also with the Seleukids and some fronts are similiar to yours.

I see you like elite royal armies as much as I do! Is the original family still in charge? I mean the Heterogenes Syriakos descendants from Seleukos I Nikator? I have Seleukos II Kallinikos in charge, he has two sons, oh the fortune, let's hope the second son is S/C/V! I'll keep you posted.

~Fluvius

Brave Brave Sir Robin

10-19-2010, 01:48

The Seleucids are certainly an entertaining faction to play. Maybe its the challenge of holding together a struggling empire or the fact that you basically play two factions at once (one an eastern themed one against Parthia/Saka and Baktria and a western phalanx based one against Ptollies and Pontus). They are one of only two factions I played to victory conditions.

Unintended BM

10-19-2010, 04:33

Lysimachos

10-19-2010, 08:32

The Seleucids are very fun. It's nearly impossible to rush a game like that, and that's why I like it. For the Romans, it's a lot of hitting end turn, but for the Seleucids, you always have something to do in every turn. In the time it takes me to get to 200 BC in a Roman game, I'll only get to like 250 BC in a Seleucid game.

Plus you have a huge variety of units. In Asia Minor and Syria, you can have chariots, elephants and naked dudes, then in the east you can have cataphracts, and horse archers. Plus lots of pikemen. A very fun game.

You know, you can recruit the Cataphracts quite far into the west. :smiley:
Because of the large dimensions of the empire the seleukids have a vast array of regional troops at their disposal and I like to mix my armies with as much variety as possible. In modification of a quote from a certain controversial movie: The thousand nations of the seleukid empire descend upon you!:evil3:

Fluvius Camillus

10-19-2010, 11:12

You know, you can recruit the Cataphracts quite far into the west. :smiley:
Because of the large dimensions of the empire the seleukids have a vast array of regional troops at their disposal and I like to mix my armies with as much variety as possible. In modification of a quote from a certain controversial movie: The thousand nations of the seleukid empire descend upon you!:evil3:

THIS IS SELEUKEIA!

But yes I love to do that too, Bosphoran, Kretan, Indian and Syrian archers fighting next too Hellenic Phalanx, backed by Indian Elephants and Persian Chariots. Baktrian light infantry slides down the flanks followed by the more heavy Galatians and infantry guild warriors. Arabian skirmisher cavalry distracts the enemy while the Hellenic Hetairoi and Kataphractoi make mincemeat of the enemy. The Thorakitai Agematos Basilikou punch through the center of the enemy line followed by Thraikian Romphaiaroi!

~Fluvius

panten

10-19-2010, 23:45

THIS IS SELEUKEIA!

But yes I love to do that too, Bosphoran, Kretan, Indian and Syrian archers fighting next too Hellenic Phalanx, backed by Indian Elephants and Persian Chariots. Baktrian light infantry slides down the flanks followed by the more heavy Galatians and infantry guild warriors. Arabian skirmisher cavalry distracts the enemy while the Hellenic Hetairoi and Kataphractoi make mincemeat of the enemy. The Thorakitai Agematos Basilikou punch through the center of the enemy line followed by Thraikian Romphaiaroi!

~Fluvius

Now here's an idea for an army as soon as I have the necessary provinces :D

Also, the original family is still in charge, so far I've been lucky with heirs (even though some turned out to be horrible and nearly all family members tend to get the "Thinks he's divine" and "Intolerant of other Gods" traits)

QuintusSertorius

10-23-2010, 03:07

Apparently the shoe-ing I gave the Karthadastim last time wasn't lesson enough. This time, however, I haven't shipped an army to assist the kingdom of Kyrene, they're going to have to manage on their own.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/201BC.jpg

Also visible are two targets held by KH, I really want Rhodos and Chalkis, though I'm going to wait a while for both.

Elsewhere in the world, Pergamon intervened in the everlasting wars between Syria and Egypt, restoring the stalemate by assisting the Seleukids. After a swift campaign (with FD to give the Seleukids their cities back), the Silver Death is no longer wiped out in its heartland.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/201BCmap.jpg

Biowulf

10-23-2010, 05:09

That's the farthest east I've seen AI Rome go, and the farthest south I've seen AI Hayasdan grow.

Fluvius Camillus

10-23-2010, 15:09

That's the farthest west I've seen AI Rome go, and the farthest south I've seen AI Hayasdan grow.

I humbly think you mean east..~D

Indeed, did you use Victory Conditions mod, or FD'ed them that way?

Now here's an idea for an army as soon as I have the necessary provinces :D

Also, the original family is still in charge, so far I've been lucky with heirs (even though some turned out to be horrible and nearly all family members tend to get the "Thinks he's divine" and "Intolerant of other Gods" traits)

The intolerant and divine thing seems to be hereditary, Seleukos II Kallinikos and Seleukos III Keraunos both got it too in my campaign!~D

Seleukos II Kallinikos' second son came of age, oh the luck, my future Antiochos III Megas was S/C/V U/O/L! His older brother Menekrates Syriakos (I call him Seleucus III Keraunos) is D/C/L, he has a powerful advisor and probably will have a little accident, poor guy. Also at the same time of Antiochos III, a far nephew came of age. He is also S/C/V but S/O/D in personality and called Hierax, perfect for roleplaying a civil war when Seleucus III unluckily falls from his horse and the Empire is without a heir!

Again, I forgot to post a screenshot of my magnificent Arche.

~Fluvius

QuintusSertorius

10-23-2010, 17:58

I humbly think you mean east..~D

Indeed, did you use Victory Conditions mod, or FD'ed them that way?

I do use Victory Conditions, but unfortunately the Romans only seem to have eyes for Gaul. They don't even seem interested in re-taking Italy, though after repeatedly moving their stacks to Sicily, they've finally taken Messana, and retaken Rhegion.

It's the work of some FD, partly to draw their attention eastwards, and partly to deny the Makedonians total dominance of the region (since I don't want much more of it than I already have). Especially now I've chosen not to intervene on behalf of KH in their homeland, and allowed Makedonia to rule over all Hellas. I'm letting KH evolve into the Bosphoran Kingdom and an independent league in Asia Minor.

vollorix

10-24-2010, 08:52

In almost all my campaigns Romans were building up Tolosa at about 260 bc. I had to nerf their ability to recruit local troops and to tweak their troops roster a little bit to stop them from steamrolling in all directions. They even easily used to overrun the Alps. They seem in any case always to swim in money, even on medium campaign difficulty. I play BI exe. by Ferromancer.

Daiyoukai Ramza

10-24-2010, 10:43

Here's a Pontic Empire I've been working on for a while...
https://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Daiyoukai_Ramza/Pontus.png

Early game was... hectic, I suppose. I admit that I made a frantic blitz against Arche Seleukeia's Anatolian holdings, followed by kicking out the Ptolemaioi. I had no intention of letting myself be dragged into a two or three-front war.

And, well, it worked. After the initial blitz, I slowly expanded over the course of 30~40 years until I controlled all of Anatolia, and then set my sights elsewhere... specifically, the coastal cities ringing the Black Sea--barring the ones present in Anatolia, of course--which I've only begun, er, acquiring, in the past decade or so. The vast majority of said cities were 'acquired' by one Darius Kimmerikos, whose name is just so awesome that I can't help but to use him to lead my armies.

However, this campaign has begun to lose my interest, so I'll likely make a backup save in case the desire to continue strikes me later, then start a...

...

...I have no idea, to be honest. Maybe a... KH-turned-Bosporan Kingdom migration campaign.

QuintusSertorius

10-24-2010, 15:06

196BC and still it goes on. At war with the Karthadastim over Kyrene yet again, another full stack (though fewer elite pikemen and assault infantry this time) to deal with. In Italy/Sicily, chaos reigns supreme.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/196BC.jpg

At least the AI Romans have actually sent some forces back to recapture their lost Italian cities, instead of ignoring it and haring off for Gaul. Again. I'm hoping to encourage them to move into Spain, rather than Gaul.

KH holding Syrakousai was my doing, after taking Rhodos and Chalkis off them I figured they needed a little assistance. They took Amaseia all by themselves, though.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/196BCmap.jpg

I'm about to go to war with Makedonia to restore the Aedui to Singidnum, and maybe reduce their fighting capabilities a little.

Fluvius Camillus

10-28-2010, 19:08

Finally an update on my Seleukid Empire (which I paused for a while)!

The last time I posted about it, it was this size:

https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/AS10.jpg?t=1288287341

This was around the end of the reign of Antiochos II Theos, when he was subjugating the decadent Ptolemies with his royal army. Pahlavans still independent, Saka still raiding and Baktria is taken care of by Seleukos II kallinikos and his army.

Now I've continued!

https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/AS16.jpg?t=1288287612

I must say that this is quite a slow pace for my standards, as I try to roleplay and let the AI build up more. Which I really enjoy!~D

After Seleukos II Kallinikos returned from a victorious campaign through several (semi-) nomadic tribes (subjugating the main Parni cities and taking Caucasian Albania), he ceased campaigning and withdrew to the royal Seleukid palace. Here he spent well-deserved time with the inner circles of the royal family and tutored his heir apparent, Seleukos III Keraunos. He also witnessed the 16-years younger brother, Antiochos (in-game Aristos, but I stick with history) grow up. He showed promising traits and was sent to Alexandreia to study as soon as he reached the fit age. Also a promising nephew of him came of age the same time, Hierax Syriakos. The problem is that he developed some disloyalty traits and has to be watched closely.

The frontiers of the empire have shrunk to a small size, most are the edges of the map, against the sea or uninhabitable deserts. The main front is now Hellas, the fatherland. In an effort to help the Seleukid allies (Antigonid Makedonia under Demetrios II Aetolicus and Getia), a late son of Antiochos I Soter was sent to settle some matters. The Epeirote armies held the capitals of both allies, so Mnesiptolemus Syriakos and his son were given command of a well outfitted army to do some business there. At the same time, another army was sent to the northern coast of the Pontus Euxine. The commander was Nikolaos Babyloniakos, to help the Hellenic settlers who had been conquered by savage Sauromatae!

After the campaigns of Seleukos II Kallinikos, the Parni-Maszagatae were forced into submission (protectorate).

The army of Nikolaos met some resistance, but completed its taks easily. Mnesiptolemos Syriakos had more difficulties, the Epeirote armies were numerous and losses kept piling up. He however did settle the matter, he conquered Buridava and killed the Epeirote northern commander, then traded the city for Kallatis, which had much more Seleukid interest and the Danube became the frontier of the European Seleukid holdings.

The last keystone however, was Epeirote Pella, the ownership was hard to decide, Epeiros kept sending armies and the Epeirote Makedonian war already dragged on for more than 50 years. Mnesiptolemus did what seemed best, he took the city peacefully, slaughtered all Epeirote armies in the area and returned it to Makedonia. He made peace with Epeiros and declared the Kingdom of Kyrene a protectorate (Ptolemaioi), which then had to abandon all ties with Epeiros.

Demetrios II Aetolicus however took full advantage of the situation. He urged Seleukos II Kallinikos to continue the war against Epeiros, on sea because the Makedonian fleet was far inferior to the larger Epeirote. Seleukos then dispatched his fleet to blockade Adriatic sea ports.

Demetrios however sent three armies against Byzantion, Serdike and the allied city of Tylis, he allied himself with the Epeirotes by painting off the Seleukids as a Persian danger which all Hellenes had to defend itself against. Mnesiptolemus now uses his army with a lot of the Thraikian allies to turn back the combined strength. The defense however might break to these continued assaults. The new royal army is ready for battle and will soon join its new commander, Antiochos Syriakos (the younger brother of Seleukos III). Will he be in time to save the European holdings from this alliance?

Other stuff that is going on:
- Hayasdan is having a war of attrition with the Sauromatae over Uspe, which makes them unaggresive towards me (that is why I have not attacked them).
- The Kyrenaian protectorate is besieged by a large Qarthadast army, the Seleukids will probably be joining this conflict soon with another army.
- I leave the Massagateans and Alanii alone to keep them as a buffer against the Aorsi, a front which I don't want to wage a war.
- As you can see on the minimap (which is quite up to date), the Romani (my ally) went (as usual) berserk on the "barbarian" factions. True to history, the Lusotannan's are confined to a heavily fortified Numantia. The Sweboz are being massacred and only have Arctaunon and Gawjam Silengoz. The Romani are however too busy with the barbarian war, that they dont seem to notice that Epeiros took the boot of Italy from them all the way up to Capua.
Of course as the campaign progresses, there is no doubt that the final enormous clash of empires will be Romani vs AS.
- I play EB 1.2 RTW.exe with RS textures and FD.
- As you might have noticed, my treasury has grown quite a lot. I built Large mines in my entire empire, spread governors and made as much law bonus buildings as I can to reduce corruption. The result is an economy which makes standard 50000 mnai while I build in every city (Wonderous temples, huge markets etc. are standard in the programme). Thus I have a lot of cash to play around with. As you can see on the screen, I have trained my Armoured Elephant corps. Also I posses the ridiculously expensive Nees Megistai (Huge Poliremes), which I use in my (LARGE) fleet for the naval wars.

I hope someone enjoyed this.

~Fluvius

QuintusSertorius

10-28-2010, 19:37

I must say that this is quite a slow pace for my standards, as I try to roleplay and let the AI build up more. Which I really enjoy!~D

Controlling almost half the map in under 60 years is slow?

Fluvius Camillus

10-28-2010, 19:58

Controlling almost half the map in under 60 years is slow?

Umm yes, if you usually control the whole 20 years past this date, it is. Read: my standards, for more info on those see:
the earlier posts of mine:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?112224-My-Epeiros-Campaign-1.0&highlight= <-- Epeiros
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?112291-Very-weird-Graphic-problem&highlight= <-- Romani
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?124169-Baktria-Great-Review&highlight= <-- Baktria

There is some huge PontPersian Empire lying around this fourm too, but I think the former three prove my point well enough.

~Fluvius

QuintusSertorius

10-31-2010, 03:30

236BC in my Epeiros as The Kyrenaian League, and this is turning out to be a lot of fun, especially playing some of the distant regions as independent kingdoms (ie no support from Kyrene):

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/236BC.jpg

Garama has an all-African garrison led by a Libian general, and has fought off three invasions by the Karthadastim so far. Long as they don't send any of their elite pikemen, I should be alright. If I've got more money later, I might hire another general and a merc army to go plundering the Karthadastim desert provinces/free Mauretania.

Recently landed an army to "liberate" Syrakousai from the Karthadastim; I might unite Sicily or I may take Lilibeo and Messana and gift to the Romans. Either way I'm hoping for some good battles across the island before that happens. As it is, the First Punic War in my game lasted about 10 years and the Romans gave up after being driven off the island. Very disappointing.

I think I'll take the Bosphorous as a third independent region, more viable than attempting to make it a faction in its own right.

The world is thus:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/236BCmap.jpg

It's the Yellow Death in this game, the Seleukids are slowly crumbling without a great deal of fight. I wonder if proximity to the human player is a factor in that? In my Pergamon game, it was the Sliver Death, with the Ptlolemies flaking out quickly.

Yes, I've been tinkering all over the place and adding loads of money to the Eleutheroi (not sure if it does much; I also add units to their garrisons to prevent them being steamrollered). The "desert rebellion" in the Ptolemies hinterland is all my doing (deep raid, gift to another faction), seems to have galvanised the Sabaen into motion elsewhere.

Amazingly, KH and Makedon are at peace. Can't seem to get KH to expand in Asia Minor, either. They're no longer allies with the Seleukids, but won't take Sardis. Even though it would link up their holdings. I'd love for them to attack the Ptolemies, they have no real resistance in Asia Minor. No doubt I'll have to launch a naval invasion later on to sort that out.

Saldunz

11-01-2010, 04:12

So this has been by far the most interesting game I've played so far. It's a shot of my on-going campaign as the Getai in 164 BC. I'm playing VH/VH and I'm not using any Force Diplomacy.

That being said: I'm only at war with one other faction. Can you tell which?

https://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb188/Thanatos_Helem/Getai164.jpg

It's the Saba. But anyway, here's some fascinating little happenings from the last 50 years of gameplay.

Italy: After I pushed Epirus out of Greece, they managed to hold out against Rome. It was incredible to watch the AI duke it out like that. Most of Italy was green for a short while, then it became white. From Sicily the Carthaginians trampled Epirus and conquered all the way up to Helvetia, eliminating both factions. The Carthaginians then managed to hold onto Helvetia but lost most of Italy to the Aedui, and their Sicilian colonies revolted and switched to the Koinon Hellenon. Now the Aedui and the Koinon Hellenon are fighting a bitter war for the Italian peninsula, and the Greeks are winning. I don't think I'll ever see Italy change colours so many times in under 50 years again.

The Near East: The Ptolemies simply wiped out the Seleukids and Hayasdan, and though I tried my best to keep them uninterested in Bithynia, they soon attack. I've been stuck in a war with the phalanx-dominated Ptolemies for nearly a century, making very slow gains. But as of 10 years ago, I've managed to persuade them into a lasting peace (it's possible, even in VH/VH), and probably could've done so a lot sooner if I was willing to concede all my gains east and south of Anatolia. Now the Ptolemies are stuck in a losing war against Bactria, which has recently finished off the Saka and the Parthians. Before this campaign is over, Bactria will have swallowed all of the Ptolemies Asian possessions.

Arabia: Though I've always been far more powerful than them, the Saba insisted on attacking me, no matter how much money I threw at them. I even tried giving them Lower Egypt, Jerusalem and Nabataea, but they attacked anyway. I'm now stuck trying to force them into a peace treaty, but the only way it seems I'll be able to manage that is by taking South-Western Arabia. After that, they may be more willing to pursue their eastern war with the Ptolemies.

Northern Europe: Sustainable peace is absolutely possible. I've never engaged in any hostilities with the Sweboz or the Sauromatae.

Also, if anyone's curious, I have not been winning battles with the Getai's elite units, mostly because the population of Getia is usually so low compared to the rest of my empire. Most of my armies that have been fighting with the Saba and the Ptolemies before that were bred in Asia (from Antioch, Alexandria and Damascus mostly), like the ones on the screenshot above. Very Hard battle difficulty does not make things impossible.

Blxz

11-01-2010, 15:45

Nice saldunz. Also fluvius camillus. And quintus seritouns.

Actually, I like all the empires. Very good stuff there.

QuintusSertorius

11-02-2010, 02:10

Blxz

11-02-2010, 06:06

Since my Kyrenaian game may be dead, and I don't feel like going back to Pergamon yet, here's my Bosphoran Kingdom game:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/258BC.jpg

My entire "empire" really does fit on one screen for the moment. Olbia is the next target, but worryingly the Eleutheroi AI has been adding to its garrison. I don't have an army yet (what's left of it you can see in Pantikapaion's garrison), just garrisons, which is why there are all those positive numbers. Concentrating on building up my economy and military production base while the AI is leaving me alone. All ports, markets, roads and farms for the moment.

I suspect you like starting new migration campaigns. What are your victory conditions that you have set for yourself in this game? I can't imagine a bosporan kingdom would feasibly want to expand much more than the circumference of the pontic sea. Could be a short game. I guess they could aim to control hellas proper by the end also.

QuintusSertorius

11-02-2010, 08:38

I suspect you like starting new migration campaigns. What are your victory conditions that you have set for yourself in this game? I can't imagine a bosporan kingdom would feasibly want to expand much more than the circumference of the pontic sea. Could be a short game. I guess they could aim to control hellas proper by the end also.

I'm certainly experimenting with them. I've had this one on the go for a while, but on the back burner while I was playing the Kyrenaian one.

Not sure I have much of a goal beyond the circumference of the Pontic Sea. I might try to make the Sauromatae a client state (certainly don't want to be wandering out onto the Steppes). As much as anything, I want to try out my army formation to fight horse archers.

Blxz

11-02-2010, 08:53

I'm certainly experimenting with them. I've had this one on the go for a while, but on the back burner while I was playing the Kyrenaian one.

Not sure I have much of a goal beyond the circumference of the Pontic Sea. I might try to make the Sauromatae a client state (certainly don't want to be wandering out onto the Steppes). As much as anything, I want to try out my army formation to fight horse archers.

Would you ever consider playing online? I'd love to test out your army comp vs a swarm of horsearchers =)

QuintusSertorius

11-02-2010, 14:53

Would you ever consider playing online? I'd love to test out your army comp vs a swarm of horsearchers =)

Thanks for the offer, but it's not really my thing.

Blxz

11-03-2010, 13:28

Thanks for the offer, but it's not really my thing.

Too bad. Still, keep us informed of how your campaign proceeds. I've never bothered with a migration campaign before but I must say they intrigue me.

QuintusSertorius

11-03-2010, 14:07

Too bad. Still, keep us informed of how your campaign proceeds. I've never bothered with a migration campaign before but I must say they intrigue me.

I haven't posted another update yet, because visually nothing has happened (it's now about 253BC). Been doing more building of economy-boosting installations and slowly putting my army together as my fiscal power increases.

I'm looking desirously at Trapezous as well as Olbia, but the former is now held by Pontos. Who have three full stacks stomping around the area, and Sinope only has a minimal garrison. For the moment they seem to be ignoring Sinope (perhaps because it recently upgraded to stone walls), but it's only a matter of time, I think. By then I hope to have taken Olbia and thus my army be freed up to sail across the Pontic Sea to defend Paphlagonia and liberate Pontos Parailos.

I need to change the name of my royal family. It's currently "Kyrenaios", a leftover from the other game but "Aiakides" isn't much better.

I'd highly recommend giving a migation campaign a go. Epeiros are the easiest faction to do that with (doesn't materially affect the rest of the game by moving them, huge expansion region and access to a lot of Hellenic troops all over the place). Lots of option too; Massalia, Syrakousai, Kyrene, Pergamon, Bosphoran Kingdom, for just the major ones.

QuintusSertorius

11-03-2010, 23:34

250BC and after a battle on the steppes and a big siege, Olbia is mine:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/250BC.jpg

Pictured is the Bosphoran army immediately post-siege. There was basically a full stack in Olbia, though about six units of horse archers were out wandering around the province. Fought them first, then besieged what was left (Sarmatian Noble, a few more horse-archers, a unit of Scythian foot archers, a couple of Pontic spearmen, some Akontistai and about five units of levy hoplites). All in all, I think my new model army survived quite well considering they were under a hail of arrows a lot of the time.

The world in 250BC:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/250BCmap.jpg

Blxz

11-04-2010, 08:05

QuintusSertorius

11-04-2010, 08:49

I always thought the KH would be a better faction to move for those migrations? I don't really care about affecting the game. After all, some rebellions can easily simulate the extent of the KH in greece. I am more concerned with troop choice. Is epiros as flexible in the regions as the KH?

Rebellions are a pretty weak simulation of anything, really, look how quickly they all get gobbled up if you do nothing to aid them. I add money to the Eleutheroi fairly regularly, and even then they're pretty inconsistent about boosting their garrisons. Not to mention the rarity of somewhere turning rebel of it's own accord (as Side did recently in my game after AS took it off the Ptolemies).

Epeiros is pretty flexible (check out the Recruitment Viewer, they have access to most of the Greek regional and faction troops in many places, less so their own), but a big advantage for me is their cavalry FMs. Means I never need to recruit heavy cavalry, whereas with KH's infantry FMs I would.

Blxz

11-04-2010, 10:34

Tanit

11-04-2010, 12:33

On bi.exe, without any mods such as Force Diplomacy, how would one migrate Saba to Kirtan at the start of the game? ( other than the boring old fashioned way of marching there)

Epimetheus

11-04-2010, 17:49

One would either have to modify the descr_strat to give it to them from the beginning, or use the move_character cheat to teleport their armies there.

Fluvius Camillus

11-04-2010, 18:56

A little update.

For some reason I don't trust the Qarthadast... No worries, I anticipated this so a new fullstack is just leaving Antiocheia!

https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/AS18.jpg?t=1288893165

Aristos (see the army in the pic has now landed and taken Sparte! He will continue to crush the Makedonian-Epeirote Alliance. Epeirote is trying to take Roma, while the Romani themselves are preoccupied with taking Numantia and Arctaunon.

~Fluvius

Tanit

11-04-2010, 20:57

Just started a Pontos game, the Neo-Persian empire. I blitzed As early on out of Anatolia, took Mytilene from Makedon before making peace with them, accidentily started a war with the Ptolemaioi over Halikarnassos and kicked them out of Anatolia, now I am their ally. Still allied with Hayasdan, Baktria and Pahlava, they all sided with me when I declared war on AS. As won't take a peace offer because they border me, but I'm not at war with anyone else so now I'm just building up my economy, planning on taking Pergamon next and lavishing the province in an effort to use ancient Troy as a symbol of my defiance to Greek masters. The first image is the aftermath of my last battle against the Ptolemaioi, they sallied, where my faction heir besieged Tarsos with only three Hoplitai Haploi, two half-strength Pantodapoi Phalangitai, one unit of mercenary Galatian shortswordsmen and 1/5 strength unit of Cappadocian cavalry to supplement his bodyguard. The enemy had one sphendonetai, 2 klerouchoi phalangitai, 1 hippakontistai and a whole load of akontistai and pantodapoi. All full strength. The second picture is my empire so far.

https://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7596/pontosheroicvictory.png (https://img824.imageshack.us/i/pontosheroicvictory.png/)
https://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8413/rometwbi201011041427499.png (https://img258.imageshack.us/i/rometwbi201011041427499.png/)

Fluvius Camillus

11-04-2010, 21:05

That the Qarthadast preview is done doesn't mean the EB team has time to relax!!!:clown::clown:

Looks like a good start Tanit, I see good old Ariobarzanes is doing fine! Did you play with them before? You didn't feel like taking Salamis before the peace talks? And what about Rhodos? If you are still at war with the KH (because of Sinope), would you try to take it from them? And finally, did the Bosphoron allies already cry for help? Or don't you feel like going that way?

The funny thing is I tried the exact opposite of what usally happens with Pontos. I sided with the Seleukids when the allies broke away. That way the AS remained my ally and Hayasdan became neutral towards me. I used one army to take Side (I left Tarsos for the Seleukids). The other starting army went towards the Hayasdan. They took Ani-Kamah first and then attacked Armavir head on, with the final troops I could take Mtskheta and eliminate the Hai. I had almost no units left.

But these new provinces gave me the economic recovery I needed. I slowly came in positive numbers and finally squeezed out an army to take Kotais and Trapezous. Later I also took Sinope and by the time the Arche Seleukeia betrayed me I was ready to meet them.

While I was lucky that the AS didnt attack me right away, this was a fun way to play it and can work too.

~Fluvius

Tanit

11-04-2010, 21:44

I've played it both ways on VH/VH before, building up and keeping the Seleucid alliance, and taking them out early as I did this time. Right now I'm only playing on M/M for a nice relaxing game. I have not attacked Sinope yet, and thus have not gone to war with them yet. Bosporus hasn't said a word to me yet. And I didn't have a fleet to take Salamis with. Currently the Koinon are doing really well since I kicked Macedon out of Anatolia and Epeiros took Pella. The Koinon have taken Korinth and as such haven't built any additional armies on Rhodos, meaning I have some time to prepare to attack that island if I want. I'm also experimenting with doing a bit of roleplaying. I have restored Sardis and Ipsos as the 'independant' kingdoms of Lydia and Phrygia while Kappadocia is royal territory and Halikarnassos and Mytilene are philhellenic satrapies. Side is becoming a Persian satrapy and Tarsos is going to be part of my royal territory.

IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer

11-04-2010, 21:56

https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9269/0107z.jpg (https://img219.imageshack.us/i/0107z.jpg/)

Here's the Carthage that I built after a few weeks of labor. I spread myself out all over the place toward the beginning, but I eventually connected most of my territories by the end. I still haven't reached the victory conditions for some reason..it says I still need to raid Kirtan and a couple other north african cities, but I've already captured them, so..

I went to war with Ptolemaioi fairly early on. After capturing Egypt, Lusotannen and Romani attacked me immediately, and over the next 50+ years we slowly fought it out.

Macedon became the rival superpower to me and the strongest AI faction in the game. They eventually got worn down attacking the Sweboz and my troops at the Bosporan Kingdom, and are pretty weak now.

One thing I noticed when playing this campaign - I realized why the Romani always start off strong and then get stuck later on. In my game, they were steamrolling at the beginning but then ran into the impossibly strong rebel armies and generals around Eburonem. They ended up spending the next 20+ years pouring all their stacks into Erzurum and getting destroyed, and they ended up falling apart.

Tanit

11-04-2010, 22:10

IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer

11-04-2010, 22:19

Oh, you're right..I forgot all about Sidon, way over there. Well..time for a sea voyage!

Fluvius Camillus

11-04-2010, 22:40

You still have to take Sidon. and possibly those two Epeirote Italian territories. The raiding just means you have to have owned the territory once by the time you finish the rest of the victory conditions. Don't worry, it will count later.

He owns the Epeirote territories, because Epeiros is his protectorate.

Nice empire btw, it seems that the Romani finally succeeded in taking Eburonem.

~Fluvius

QuintusSertorius

11-04-2010, 23:07

Didn't even think about the FM's. I'll give it a shot sometime. I just feel that its always going to turn into an epiros game after a couple of years. The only way to really avoid that is to avoid their area... I'll try it out and then come back and complain some =)

It's not an explicit house rule as such, but I tend to avoid their homelands anyway. Haven't gone anywhere near them in four different migrated campaigns. To be honest I've never played Epeiros "straight" either. Being clear about your own sphere of influence helps, I think.

Unintended BM

11-05-2010, 03:53

233 BC, sorry for the huge image.

https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-11-0422-45-16-40.jpg

Guess who I am.

Brave Brave Sir Robin

11-05-2010, 05:18

Sweboz

Celtic_Punk

11-05-2010, 05:20

http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/106406481-4.jpg
Orro, I bribed him from the Adeui, he fought and destroyed countless armies of romans and aduei with himself and 400 leuce epos. (only 100 of which survived the sacking of rome) He pushed into italy, sacking 3 different cities on the road to Rome... the money made from said sacking and slaves built many new homes and services and schools for the people Gaul. The Averni nobles awarded Orro's new found courage and loyalty to the tribe with by voting him the selected superior. He is now King!

The adeui have allied with the stinking romans, so have the sweboz, and so have the iberians. Our only "ally" is Carthage, through neutrality. Epiros swaps between being a client state and rebelling against their roman masters. Whats happening in the east i really havent been paying much attention.

I've been holding back from expanding outside of Gaul. Want to keep things in the realm of historical possiblitity... probably have broken that line already :P

Unintended BM

11-05-2010, 05:24

Fluvius Camillus

11-05-2010, 10:10

Yes. I'm not sure how you could tell so fast.

Anyways, it's a really really slow game I've got going there. Basically, I'm waiting until I build up a good amount before I go and conquer. I also wait until I get a really good governor before I conquer another city. Normally I blitz the gauls and maybe the Romans in my Sweboz games, but this way is fun too.

Also, German Pikemen are fun. Never really used them before.

It was quite easy, you took the rebel city east of Rugoz, the city on the Amber route. Ascaucalis perhaps?

There is nothing weird going on with the city but the AI seems to avoid that city like the plague. It would be one of my first moves too when I should play Sweboz. I have NEVER seen any AI faction take that town.

~Fluvius

Unintended BM

11-05-2010, 17:21

Oh. There are some rich regions around there, I don't know why everyone always says to avoid the Sweboz homeland when in other campaigns, a good portion of them have mines and are coastal.

Brave Brave Sir Robin

11-05-2010, 18:27

Yeah, Sweboz AI NEVER takes that region even if only 1 unit guards it. Made for a pretty easy guess.

QuintusSertorius

11-06-2010, 00:22

236BC in my Bosphoran game:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/236BC-1.jpg

Yes, in 12 years since the last one, I've taken one settlement. I was provoked, the Sauromatae attacked Olbia, so in retaliation I raided one of their other settlements and took Tanais off them. My army is in that fort next to the capital, ready to move if they should start things up again. Given the full stack garrison I can see in the nearest settlement, I don't think it's far off.

I'm also planning to take Trapezous, though Pontos are pretty weak right now so I've been staying my hand. What I'd like to do is recruit a new army and have a go at the Seleukids (taking Mazaka and giving it to Pontos, for example), but I'm not quite sure how I'd afford the upkeep.

The world is thus:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/236BCmap-1.jpg

I just did some FD to roll back the Romans (who'd gone off into Gaul again) and take the Karthadastim desert provinces off them. It seems adding a lot of money to the Eleutheroi at regular intervals is having some effect on their durability, which is good.

moonburn

11-06-2010, 05:41

Oh. There are some rich regions around there, I don't know why everyone always says to avoid the Sweboz homeland when in other campaigns, a good portion of them have mines and are coastal.

you clearly are at home fighting batles in forests with the hellenic (carthie) phalanxs or the romans formations where your missiles are almost useless since you can´t see the enemies (ambush mode) where you get surprised and you´re units are just 1 or 2 moral points away from being routed completly by barbarians using clubs and smashing your elite armoured like if they where pansies wearing pink

invading germany is fighting forest batles against the experts of forest batles for lands who can´t and won´t pay up the garrisons you´ll have to keep much more the armies and resources you´ll have to deploy to get them (best chance at germany ? take over the coast cities and be happy with it )

Unintended BM

11-06-2010, 06:54

Fluvius Camillus

11-06-2010, 13:33

AI Sweboz is overrated. I took them out with ease on one of my Roman games, and on an Aedui game. I've never tried it with a Hellenic faction, but common sense against the AI goes a long way, so I don't think it'd be that difficult. Plus, I have the giant tree fix where there aren't oversized trees anymore, so it makes it a bit easier.

Even with giant trees AI Sweboz are a pushover. Not everything there is wooded and even if you cant see the enemy, medium and elite phalanx will keep fighting and Hetairoi and Kataphractoi charges to the rear do the job, also in woods. Mass rout, mass chase, you win. I don't see Sloxonez routing Pedites, TAB's or those sorts, the Ai stays dumb forever.

~Fluvius

Africanus

11-07-2010, 02:48

My Romani world, VH/M, 185 BC.

https://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh241/LVA/RTW/RomeTW-BI2010-11-0618-15-57-26.jpg

Taking things very slowly, and I'm a bit surprised the AI hasn't been more aggressive. I've had a truce that's held up with the Aedui since the beginning of the game, and I've had a mutual border with the Luso's for quite some time with no war.

I allowed a KH full stack wander aimlessly around Italy for a time (you can barely make it out under the coins from Arpi) and they've finally decided to beseige Taras.

Just one faction dead so far (AS) with no FD, but Pontos and the Make's are in peril of being swallowed up by the Yellow tsunami. It also appears the Backtrians will be usurping Pahavla in short order.

Kikaz

11-07-2010, 20:46

Fluvius Camillus

11-07-2010, 21:00

Wow, I've never seen the Saba do that

If I am not mistaken, he did that for Saba.

~Fluvius

QuintusSertorius

11-07-2010, 22:05

Wow, I've never seen the Saba do that

On their own, they wouldn't. That's Force Diplomacy at work. :)

Tanit

11-08-2010, 23:38

BI.exe is proving to be much better. Pontus game is getting exciting. AS finally accepted peace after Pahlava attacked them, KH took corinth off of Macedon and then decided to land troops in an attemot to take Mytilene from me. I responded by taking Rhodos. A Ptolemaioi fleet is lurking around Rhodos, I'm worried they're thinking of landing the troops on board and breaking our alliance.

QuintusSertorius

11-09-2010, 00:14

227BC in my Bosphoran Kingdom game:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/227BC.jpg

I finally took Trapezous in about 229, the war with Pontos was brief. They besieged it twice, I fought off the besiegers and they'd run out of fresh troops. I gave them Mazaka as consolation. They're sniffing around Nikaia again, but failed a few times to take it.

Makedon recently attacked Kallatis, mobilising the Bosphoran army to defend their ally in Mikra Skythia. You can see the remnants of the army on its way back home in the screenshot. During the war, I re-ordered the map over there. First I took Tylis off them and gave it to the Arverni (hoping they'll join up with Galatia via Nikaia and Byzantion). Then I took Serdike and gave it to the Getai. Lastly Dalminion which I gave to the Romans in the hope of pulling their attention east, rather than north. Killed four Makedonian FMs in the process. They now no longer share a land border with me, and I hope that will refocus their efforts into Hellas (and towards their new neighbours, the Romans).

The world:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/227BCmap.jpg

Ptolemies are winning the superpower scrap, I'm no longer allied to them after an incident with an assassin who got caught, so I think it's time I altered the balance of power there. Not with my Bosphoran army, but with the Greek/Caucasian army I'm building on the southern shore of the Pontic Sea.

I noticed my "Belgae" Casse have strayed across the wrong side of the Rhine, the intent was for them to keep the Sweboz at bay, not conquer them. Been teleporting their wandering units back to Britain to weaken them in Germania, hopefully the Sweboz will kick them out.

Pahlava are having variable fortunes against the Seleukids. They'd swept up a load of territory and have been rolled back (witness the rebel territory there).

Julianus

11-09-2010, 02:26

Africanus

11-09-2010, 08:57

Your screenshot looks a little distorted. Have you turned "widescreen" on?

No, could just be I didn't have my mouse wheel scrolled all the way back. I'm also using the RS textures map.

Africanus

11-10-2010, 06:41

https://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh241/LVA/RTW/RomeTW-BI2010-11-0921-31-11-97.jpg

The Sweboz have just broken the near 100 year alliance and laid seige to Segestica. They will now face the wrath of my Illyrian legion led by the Consul Decimvs Cornelivs Cinna.

The KH keep marching armies through my Illyrian holdings, past the Aedui in Transalpine Gaul, and down through Italy to lay seige to Taras. Got a nice fight vs two full stacks resulting in a heroic victory. Why they don't just build a ship and cross the strait (BI exe) like they did earlier in the game only the AI knows for sure.

meanwhile...

https://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh241/LVA/RTW/RomeTW-BI2010-11-0920-57-10-25.jpg

LOL.

Fluvius Camillus

11-10-2010, 10:40

That last pic......!!!!

Man if you are planning to expand historically into the eastern mediterranean you are in for a rough time!~D

~Fluvius

Titus Marcellus Scato

11-10-2010, 15:26

QuintusSertorius

11-10-2010, 16:29

Quintus:

Very nice campaign! Brilliant idea to give Saba the Numidian provinces, gives both Saba and Carthage someone to fight besides Eleutheroi. I wonder if Saba could also

I can't claim credit for the idea, though I forget now who it was who originally suggested it. They're Semitic like Qart-hadast too, which has a neatness about it. Does make things much more interesting for both factions though, I agree. Also gives the Sabaens something to do with their money when they've conquered the Arabian peninsular and start getting rebellions to them in the Levant and the Sahara.

I strongly suggest teleporting a couple of Casse armies into Iberia to give the Lusotanns some competition. Then the Casse will be fighing a three-front war, at home in Britain, in Germania, and in Spain, which should slow them down a bit.

That's not a bad idea, I might see if they'll take Vellika. There's a reciprocity if I put the Lusotannan in Ireland.

Otherwise Spain gets really boring with the Lusotannans snapping up all the rebels then eventually turning on the Karthadastim. I'll throw Rome into that mix with some FD eventually, once I've got them settled in the Adriatic.

Titus Marcellus Scato

11-10-2010, 17:19

I wonder if Saba could also be used in southern India to give the Bactrians a tougher time in that region.

jirisys

11-11-2010, 03:23

Well, I have something astounding (as far as Campaign AI goes), in my campaign, I decided to take a look at the factions and their progress, only to find myself AMAZED at the Romani AI...

https://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1517/screen22.png

They have:
1. Repelled the Epirotes from Taras
2. Started a Punic war by besieging Messana (4 years earlier, though)
3. Currently siegeing Bononia

As far as Historicallity in AI goes, I give it a 6...

Here's the world map:

https://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8035/screen23n.png

Anyway... more details about my campaign soon (as soon as you figure out the eternal and extremely difficult riddle of WHAT FACTION AM I?:clown:)

I mean it, figure it out:clown:

~Jirisys (C'mon fluvi, be the first:clown:)

Celtic_Punk

11-11-2010, 03:37

Koinon Hellenon

FriendlyFire

11-11-2010, 05:37

Koinon Hellenon

Agreed: there's no way the AI takes Krete, Chalkis, Mytilene, Korinthos, AND Thermon, all in four years :)

jirisys

11-11-2010, 05:49

Agreed: there's no way the AI takes Krete, Chalkis, Mytilene, Korinthos, AND Thermon, all in four years :)

Krete, Chalkis, Mytilene, Korinthos, Thermon, Sinope AND Trapezous (then, after the shot was taken: Pantikapaion and Demetrias)

Next stop! Byzantion, Emporion, Massilia, Syrakousai, Tanais AND (whatever city is in the Taurike Chersonesos region) :clown:

:grin:

Besides, I don't think the KH faction symbol would appear as the Open faction scroll button in a Saba game :clown:

~Jirisys (Quite slow eh?:clown:)

Lazy O

11-11-2010, 06:27

Well wasnt really a guess after seeing the first screen ...:)

william weedzor

11-11-2010, 15:49

The Romani did nothing amazing,Taras,Rhegion and Segesta.They did as usual,happens in every second game and perhaps even faster:) Romani sending third huge army to conquer Sardinia....that was amazing.Lets face it,Romani have to conquer these cities.For example Taras start with Scipio Ante Portas ready for siege and Rhegion is next target and its the only possible next target.Same in north,Segesta or Bononia because they are again only possible targets:).As usual,perhaps slightly dissapointing but not impresive at all.They are on best way to get stuck with Carthies for decades of one turn peace/one turn war.

However check the Sauromate or Saka,much more impresive.Sauros with whole Krymea,Tanais,Olbia and three other provinces named Gava something..just amazing if we consider range betwen these cities and some of them are well defended.Actually if i know Krymea have some issues with two big Eleutheroi stacks when you come from north.And still they took 2 times more cities then Romani.AI did rarely awesome job in their case.Or AS moving south so soon,they rarely did it even with Egypt and whole east in their hand.Or Getai,as usual but faster then i ever seen before.
But most suprising is inactivity of Sweboz,they are jewel of my games and their full stacks promises lot of fun.

jirisys

11-11-2010, 16:55

Fluvius Camillus

11-11-2010, 17:02

@Jirisys

You can't expect a European to be on this forum on 3 a.m.:clown:

But yes, your faction symbol next to the end turn symbol gave it away far too easy, apart from the other things said.

The first game ever where I did not blitz my immediate surroundings, it was kinda fun, fighting with Pontus, AS and Makedonia. Until my "friends" the Ptolemaioi backstabbed me. The only faction which really is friendly towards me are the Qarthadastei.

https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/KH1.jpg

This is my colonial empire!

https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/KH2.jpg

Going fine now, fighting a lot with a few forces. But I went back to my AS campaign anyway so don't expect much updates on this. This is my first ALX.exe game with Lz3, usually I play RTW.exe.

The rest of the world has nothing interesting going on.

~Fluvius

jirisys

11-12-2010, 03:33

A little unresty don't you think:clown:

Anyway... Update:

The romans took Sicily, Massilia, Cantabria and Emporion (Which they breached first as the dumb*** ********* lusotannan garrison decided to fortify themselves at my position :angry::angry: (the Romani were the ones who attacked them)).

I waged war at them, and I'm thinking of raiding every single spanish territory and slaughtering them, stupid idiots....:angry:

Anyway; the spartans conquered the Bosphorous and the Pontus shorelines; the athenians will go for Syrakousai (yes... I hope they win this time) and other west european cities

~Jirisys (If I raze them will they have won the world cup?:clown:)

FriendlyFire

11-12-2010, 04:39

https://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab296/FoECarthage/Empires/PyrrhosItaly262.jpg

10 years into an Epeiros H/M campaign. Pyrrhos went back to Italy - and this time he finished the job :-) But since he's been gone for 10 years, and has had the temerity to declare Taras to be the new capital, his power in the Epeirote homelands has been usurped. i.e., I made Ambrakia and Epidamnos rebel.

Not surprisingly, Pyrrhos has become a restless warmonger, so after finishing off the Romans and conquering down to Sicily he's now on his way north to pacify some Gauls. The Indian elephants are still going strong, but I've left them in Messana. Although I'm currently at peace with Carthage, they have African forest elephants in Lilybeo and are gradually building up a full stack to support them, so I'm hoping we can eventually have some epic elephant-vs-elephant battles on Sicily. And at some point I'll obviously have to conquer my way through Illyria and retake my homelands from either Makedonia or Koinon Hellenon.

With no Romans anymore, there'll be no March of Time. Not sure how that will change the balance of the game: no Eastern uber-bodyguards sounds good, but Carthage won't get its late infantry. I'm also playing with the city mod for the first time, to restrict most city sizes, and I have no idea what that will do to AI expansion.

Biowulf

11-12-2010, 05:39

With no Romans anymore, there'll be no March of Time. Not sure how that will change the balance of the game: no Eastern uber-bodyguards sounds good, but Carthage won't get its late infantry. I'm also playing with the city mod for the first time, to restrict most city sizes, and I have no idea what that will do to AI expansion.
They should get their new infantry since it's linked to MIC level or until 200 BC I believe.

FriendlyFire

11-12-2010, 09:36

They should get their new infantry since it's linked to MIC level or until 200 BC I believe.

D'oh! Thanks for the correction :-) I'll go read up on what the exact unit changes are

(And I just had my elephant battle on Sicily. A Carthaginian diplomat had demanded cash the year before, and then a spy had been seen in Messana, so Pyrrhos had brought the army back from Gaul - just in time to meet Hamalcar's full stack advancing on Syrakousai. There was inconclusive battling on the flanks, but in the center my Epeirote phalanx wasn't prepared to advance on the Carthaginian elephant screen, and vice versa. Thankfully my peltastai's final javelin volley routed the elephants (my next step was going to be an elephant-on-elephant charge), and they ran amok back through the Libyans and Liby-Phoenicians behind them, causing many casualties and disrupting the line. At this point Hamalcar withdrew his remaining forces and they fled to Lilybeo, which Pyrrhos has now besieged. Death to Carthage!)

Lazy O

11-12-2010, 10:32

You say death to carthage and you have Punic Infantry as your avatar? Irony..

Lysimachos

11-12-2010, 12:00

You say death to carthage and you have Punic Infantry as your avatar? Irony..

Must be a deserter who recognized the epirote superiority.

FriendlyFire

11-12-2010, 21:11

Must be a deserter who recognized the epirote superiority.

Plus if I had to change my avatar every time I played a different faction, I'd need... hmm... an animated gif maybe, cycling through every possible factional avatar!

Celtic_Punk

11-15-2010, 10:13

Thats why I have my avatar (whom i share with Appo) I'll never betray my Gallic and Gaelic brethren. Britons be damned!

Paganist

11-18-2010, 11:21

My Arvernian empire in 241 BC

https://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7770/arverni.png

Began the campaign with kicking Aedui out from the Gallic heartlands, built economy for several years before I got a S/C/V general to begin my almost peaceful unification of Gaul. At the moment I'm at war with Romans, got few veteran stacks and one fresh stack ready to sack Rome, just need to finish retraining.

Really fun campaign this far, after sacking Rome it's probably time to wipe Sweboz out.

Lazy O

11-19-2010, 06:36

Mines jsut an epic 19 yr old Arverni Terminator who exterminated Italy and conquered Germania :P

Folgore

11-21-2010, 18:54

https://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7024/ssbq219.png
The Republic of Qart Hadasht, ca. 219 BCE

The last ten years have been an island of peace and tranquility in a sea of war and destruction. Ever since I conquered the Lusotana by killing their entire royal dynasty, making their remaining settlements fall into anarchy, I have been rebuilding Iberia and upgrading my military infrastructure. (I just got the reforms this turn.) Even though I am nominally at war with both the Romans to my north and the Egyptians to my east, they have refrained from attacking me thanks to their grinding wars with the Macedonians and Seleucids respectively. My huge garrisons in Cyrenaica and Sicilia also help in dissuading the offenders from attacking again, even though they both have armies standing just outside my territory.

I have, at the moment two 'standing' armies, one stationed near Emporion and one near Qart Hadasht, though this last one is only at half-strength. Now that my military reforms have come through, my next task is to build an army to take on the Romans. I've upgraded all my mines in Iberia, so I'm getting roughly 30 000 mnai per turn. This money should allow me to build a nice army, I think. With elephants perhaps.

I need to mention three of my generals, who have made quite a name for themselves in my campaign:
- Massinissa - Son of the current Sophet, led the campaign against the Lusotana, captured most of their settlements. In the final battle against their king he led our forces, heavily outnumbered to a heroic victory, but sadly perished himself, fighting against the enemy king.
- Gades Mastia - Client King of Suguntum, led the heroic defence of Suguntum and, with the city's garrison force, vanquished the enemy, despite being heavily outnumbered and outclassed. Sadly died in the struggle for the city's walls.
- Abdmelqart - Leader of the 3rd 'light' army and in charge of the Island campaign. After the Hellenic League fell apart the senate felt it prudent to move into the aegean by capturing Kreta and Rhodos. The small garrison of Kreta posed no threat to our 3rd army and its settlement was easily conquered, but our reconnaissance had reported a huge army of levy hoplites and skirmishers on Rhodos. Over-confident in his abilities, General Abdmelqart charged the beaches of Rhodos against an army twice as large as his own. Our army was outflanked on both sides and, with the sea in their backs, our forces had no where to run and were completely slaughtered. Of the 1500 men in the 3rd army, only 41 managed to make it back to the ships. Among them of course, the coward General. He was summoned back to Qart Hadasht where he was prompty crucified.

Tanit

11-21-2010, 19:56

Nice game!

Africanus

11-22-2010, 04:28

https://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh241/LVA/RTW/26a3e386.jpg?t=1290394437

161 BC.

Still seeing oddly passive AI behavior for a VH game. I sent two legions to give the Qarthadastim the boot out of Iberia, and when that was accomplished I fully expected the Lusos - a protectorate of the Qarthadastim - to attack me with their 6 fulls stacks running around not doing much of anything.

https://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh241/LVA/RTW/3bf6f363.jpg?t=1290394957But that never happened, so I sent my Hispania Ulterior legion to to take the remaining QH coastal provinces. I've left them the desert provinces and Lepki as a buffer to the mighty Ptolemaoi. I've shipped that general back to Rome to celebrate his triumph, and then it's back to Iberia. I suppose I'm going to have to be the aggressor against the Luso's, starting with Arse.

To the north, the peace with the Aedui has held since the game's second turn, and I've periodically given them settlements that I've taken from the Averni when I feel they've gotten too powerful. But after a tough battle to take Gergovia, the Aedui are now refusing to take it, even with Force Diplomacy. :inquisitive:

After being attacked by the Sweboz, I've taken Mediolanum off them, and they send wave after wave of troops trying to get it back to no avail. :laugh4:

On the eastern front, it's more AI passiveness, as I've held borders with the KH and Epiros for years with no attacks. Epiros have lost all their Adriatic holdings and have many full stacks wandering around doing nothing.

https://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh241/LVA/RTW/10e64b5e.jpg?t=1290394650

I'm wondering if being a protectorate kills the aggressiveness of a faction. Both the KH and Epiros are protectorates of the Ptolemy's, and the Luso's with the QH.

Blxz

11-22-2010, 13:14

Tanit

11-22-2010, 16:36

If you simply offer a city, with the ability for the AI to choose what they give in return, or even as a gift I think, the AI can refuse even with force diplomacy. You need to request something back at the same time, like 1 mnai or something.

Africanus

11-23-2010, 11:23

I wish i had that AI passivness. Lost 3 good generals to massive elite Epirote attacks at Patavium. My fault I guess for leaving a skeleton garrison. Maybe your problem is the massive garrisons scaring their attacks off? Who knows, count yourself lucky though.

It is nice not to have to fight wars on five different fronts, yes. The problem is I don't like to be too aggressive and now that I've pretty much neutered the QH, and don't wish to expand north, I'm left with not much to do but watch the KH and Epiros amass huge armies and wander around aimlessly. :laugh4:

If you simply offer a city, with the ability for the AI to choose what they give in return, or even as a gift I think, the AI can refuse even with force diplomacy. You need to request something back at the same time, like 1 mnai or something.

Thanks, I'll have to give that a try next time.

QuintusSertorius

11-23-2010, 13:16

I find map information is the best thing to offer/request in return for whatever you're trying to give/take with Force Diplomacy.

jirisys

11-23-2010, 16:35

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Olbia and Syrakousai were mine in the round finish

But... Why did I take it before the end?

Here's why :clown::
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~Jirisys (All Hail Hellenon!:clown:)

ximxim

11-23-2010, 19:56

Finally learned how to take screenshots with my system! :D (-ne switch on the shortcut).

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The Koinon Hellenon as of 241 BC. I recently had to intervene in Asia Minor to try to contain the Seleukids. Originally the plan was to use the Macedons for that, once I kicked them out of greece, but they've stubbornly refused to attack each other. Instead their provinces will serve as a beachhead for my conquest, and Macedon will have to try and contend with the Getai instead... :book:

Rahl

11-23-2010, 20:50

I'm wondering if being a protectorate kills the aggressiveness of a faction. Both the KH and Epiros are protectorates of the Ptolemy's, and the Luso's with the QH.
All factions I made protectorates lost their aggressivness, if it's the same for AI factions I don't know, but it seems so.

Africanus

11-24-2010, 09:45

I find map information is the best thing to offer/request in return for whatever you're trying to give/take with Force Diplomacy.

Yes, I tried that earlier and it worked. Unfortunately, it didn't work with Gergovia. It's too late now as I've decided to keep Gergovia and have started building infrastructure. I plan on soon relieving the Sweboz of one of their settlements in retaliation for their constant attacks on me, so I'll try giving it to the Aedui once again.

All factions I made protectorates lost their aggressivness, if it's the same for AI factions I don't know, but it seems so.

The KH are protectorates of the Ptolemaoi no more as the two factions are now at war, so I'll get to see if the aggressiveness of the KH changes.

QuintusSertorius

11-24-2010, 10:02

Yes, I tried that earlier and it worked. Unfortunately, it didn't work with Gergovia. It's too late now as I've decided to keep Gergovia and have started building infrastructure. I plan on soon relieving the Sweboz of one of their settlements in retaliation for their constant attacks on me, so I'll try giving it to the Aedui once again.

You're right, it's not a guaranteed item of exchange.

Have you considered giving the ex-Sweboz settlement to the Casse? Danger of giving it to the Aedui is the Arverni or Sweboz will just take it off them. Give it to someone else and you change the dynamic.

Folgore

11-25-2010, 00:08

Bodmelqart crosses the Alps

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Spring 212BCE

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Summer 212BCE

Casualties:
Carthaginian ~850
Roman ~9000

First battle was at the river crossing north of Massalia. My army, fresh from the barracks, was besieging Massalia from the north, standing on the bridge, while an army of 3000 Romans attacked me from the north. At the same time, the 1000 Romans in Massalia sallied. I put my hoplites in a semi-circle around my side of the bridge while my Spanish and Garamantine troops crossed a ford a little to the east with my elephants. In no time at all I had 3000 Romans trapped on a bridge far too small for that number of troops with Elephants rampaging through the ranks. When my cavalry destroyed the reinforcements from Massalia, the men on the bridge were overwhelmed with panic and were all slaughtered while trying to escape.

The second battle was for a hill-top in the middle of the Alps. 2000 Romans had occupied it and it took the combined efforts of my heavy infantry and elephants to route them. What remained of the elephants from the previous battle fell here.

The third battle was on a slope going down the Alps on the Roman side. An army 3000 strong attempted to stop my advance, but they chose a very poor position, fighting an uphill battle against my forces. Sadly, they managed to hide a troop in the woods nearby, which managed to encircle my elite Africans, killing half of them before my cavalry could come to the rescue.

In all, I estimate I destroyed half the Roman armed forces in a single season. Time to destroy the other half!

NOTE: Elephants are totally not worth their price. It's that I'm swimming in cash, but if you are in want of money, spend it on something else.

Also, having an elite army you must be careful not to become overconfident and charging in without assuming a proper tactical formation or you will lose a needlessly high amount of your soldiers.

EDIT: Meanwhile, in Sicilia, the Romans besiege and assault Messena with a 3000 strong army (literally half of them Triarii). My 2500 strong garrisson (mostly regular hoplites) resists the assault, but takes 2300 casualties, resulting the biggest carnage I've ever seen.

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Africanus

11-25-2010, 03:23

Have you considered giving the ex-Sweboz settlement to the Casse? Danger of giving it to the Aedui is the Arverni or Sweboz will just take it off them. Give it to someone else and you change the dynamic.

Hmmm, I like that line of thinking!

I ended up taking Aventicos and Valdideno, and the Audei this time were grateful for my gifts. They've managed to hold off the Sweboz for now but if I have to go at it again I'm definitely going to try to get the Casse into play. They've yet to attempt to get off the island.

Meanwhile, the KH have been much more aggressive since losing their protectorate status. They took Rhodes off the Makes, killing the last family member and destroying the faction while turning Crete rebel. They then took Crete and also Halikarnassos off the Ptoly's but lost Hali back. They still haven't come after me though.

The two remaining protectorates - Epiros and the Luso's - have still done absolutely nothing but wander around their holdings. I've got my two legions in Iberia and am getting prepared to strike. I also think I'm going to take Lepki off the QH to see if that provokes the Ptoly's to break their alliance with me and open another front. They're running roughshod over the rest of the world, splitting the once mighty Baktrian empire in two.

https://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh241/LVA/RTW/6fa437a6.jpg

Blxz

11-25-2010, 09:09

@Folgore, nice series of battles. I would like to see some minimaps also. Would be nice to see what the world looks like and what areas you and the romans control.

Folgore

11-25-2010, 14:46

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The Republic of Qart Hadasht, ca. 211 BCE

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The Republic of Qart Hadasht, ca. 219 BCE

The Romans control the same area as in 219, being at peace with Macedonia and in an alliance with both the Arverni and Aedui. I am still at war with Rome and Egypt, but also with the Arverni, though only the Romans are fighting against me at the moment. My great army under Bodmelqart has suffered significant losses, as has my Sicilian garrison, which I planned to use against southern Italy, so I am now raising new legions to occupy Italy.

The rest of the world has changed a great deal in the last eight years though. The Casse have conquered the British isles, the Macedonians (and their client the Getai) are now fighting against Pontos and moving east into Asia minor. Hayasdan suddenly started an expedition into the steppes and now occupy the Sarmatian homeland. The Seleucid and Bactrian empires (allies) are reduced to one city each, both under siege at the moment, so I do not think they will last until the end of the year.

Blxz

11-25-2010, 14:58

I don't think I have ever seen parthia do very well in any of my games. Casse invading mainland, AS world dominance and even massive naval invasions against me. But never seen Parthia do ANYTHING. Very nice/interesting world map you got there. Also interesting to see you didn't take any of your southern african areas. Was that a barcid roleplay or do you just not consider them valuable enough?

Tanit

11-25-2010, 18:52

Yeah, its the best part of a new campaign, not knowing how things will change. Out of three ongoing campaigns only 1 has the Pahlava doing well, in which I am Pontos. But 2 of those games saw the Seleukids take Salamis off of Ptolies, though in the Pontos game the Ptolies took it back and now contorl the sea with huge poliremes which are a scary nightmare. I landed one invasion, took Salamis, they landed a response invasion that actually managed to take the city off of me, and now my second invasion, carefully ferried over to avoid the poliremes, has taken the city again.

Jebivjetar

11-26-2010, 09:36

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The Republic of Qart Hadasht, ca. 211 BCE

Oh, i always love to see two of my favorite factions rising on their path to glory: mighty Carthage on the west and mighty Pahlava on the east!

The Celtic Viking

11-26-2010, 16:33

Koinon Hellenon, 256 BCE

Well, it's the first time I give the KH an honest try, and I have to say I... like it. It's keeping my interest for longer than any other non-Celtic faction has ever since I saw the light and accepted this Truth as The Truth of True Truths: der Keltoi über alles.

Anyway, this is the current map:

https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2743/kartah.jpg

The way I played this was that I at first conquered Crete with the army stationed there and sent my fleet to get the army on Rhodos to the main land. This last process proved difficult and dangerous, as I had to face both a Seleukid and a Makedonian fleet on the way there. The first one I defeated, but after a tight battle against the latter, my navy lost and were forced to flee, almost so far as to the African coast. Having done that I had to defeat the same Seleukid fleet that had come back, and I managed to outmanoeuvre the Makedonian one to finally get my men to shore. With that success, the Makedonian fleet was sent elsewhere, so when my army on Crete had successfully taken the island, I could quickly ship it back to the mainland safely, leaving only the FL to keep the peace. I disbanded the remainder of the navy after awarding the admiral with medals for honour, bravery and valour.

Meanwhile the Makedonian army under Antigonos Gonatas had moved up north to deal with Pyrrhos, and I don't know if he defeated him or if Pyrrhos just went somewhere else, but the fact of the matter is that if Pyrrhos ever took Pella, he didn't hold it for long. With my reinforcements, Antigonos together with his son once again marched south and besieged Athenai. As a response, I took my army standing north of Sparta and besieged Korinthos.

The following turn the garrison, aided by a small, captain-led relief force, attempted to sally against my army, but they were soundly beaten back behind the walls. However, when Antigonos Gonatas and his son then came, they greatly outnumbered my poor, tired Greeks, who were forced to abandon the siege and head back to safety of the Spartan walls. Just before they got there, the Makedonian army caught up with them and forced a fight. After a long and bloody battle, both Antigonos and his son lay dead on the ground, joined by the Hellenic league's general, Akrotatos Agiados Lakedaimonios. Both armies were practically destroyed, and since the Hellenic league had none left, and the Makedonians had the Epeirotes in the north to worry about, a peace treaty was signed, whereby the Hellenic league had to pay a large sum of money at the spot, and then pay a seasonal tribute for the next three years. They also had to end the short alliance they had made with the Epeirotes.

Since then the Hellenic city-states have focused on economic expansion and smaller scale military reforms (read: building mics - you tell me how to say that in-character). The only outbreak of war since those early douses was when Halikarnassos revolted against the Seleukid occupational force, and sought the protection of the Hellenic league. The protection was given, and a Spartiates named Ailianos Imbrios, recently adopted by then-Hegemon Areus Agiados Lakedaimonios, was sent to organize their defence. However, the Seleukids made little attempts to retake the city, and after blockading some Hellenic ports agreed to sign a white peace.

Now, in 256 BCE, Ailianos Imbrios, having won the Olympics and great fame about himself, is the new Hegemon, and an alliance has been formed with the Galatians, who had helped the people of Halikarnassos to throw out the Seleukids. (A unit of Enoci Curoas was, for some reason, amongst the garrison when I found it under my control.) Epeiros has taken control over all but the northern-most part of Illyria but lost Taras to the SPQR, and Makedonia has secured their starting positions and expanded in Mikra Asia. Pontos hasn't done anything but raise a larger army, and the same can be said about the Hayasdan. The AS are going on better than they usually do in my games, and the rest have done quite like the usually do and are not necessary to report for my games. You can just check the map above if you're interested.

Celtic_Punk

11-26-2010, 16:54

how the hell did you lose athens? I've held that city against a retarded amount of Brown death.

Just fight them in the streets like Churchill said.
Hoplites cannot be defeated in streets!

its like 300.

The Celtic Viking

11-26-2010, 17:16

Who lost Athens? I ask, because I sure didn't. Antigonos simply ended the siege on Athens when he came to relieve Korinthos. If you're going by the picture I posted, it's kind of hard to see what cities I have, I admit. :sweatdrop:

Folgore

11-26-2010, 17:34

Earlier:

Bodmelqart crosses the Alps
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Summer 212BCE

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The Republic of Qart Hadasht, ca. 211 BCE

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The Republic of Qart Hadasht, Autumn 207 BCE

After vanquishing no less than 5 Roman legions [full stacks], the great Carthaginian General Bodmelqart [my virtual Hannibal] was recalled to Qart Hadasht, to retrain the troops under his command and to reengage the Romans in southern Italy, together with the rest of our forces. Here, one of our smaller armies was besieging Taras, while two Roman legions again attempted to take control of Messana. In the Spring of 207 BCE, Bodmelqart, having retrained his forces (and replaced his Garamantine infantry with Elite Africans), landed in Sicilia, hoping to relieve the siege of Messana. Unfortunately, the Romans assaulted this city before he could reach it, but, the city's forces held out against the numerically superior enemy, as it had done not 4 years earlier, under the command of General Milkherem Oea. In the summer then, Bodmelqart advanced across the straight into Italy where he destroyed the other Roman legion in addition to the garrison of Rhegion, which city he promptly occupied. At this same time the city of Taras was taken with heavy losses to our secondary Italian army. In the autumn Bodmelqart advanced due north. Here, the Romans had raised two new legions, one composed of mercenary troops and one legion composed of Rome's veteran soldiers [6 units of Triarii, 6 units of Principes, 5 units of Pedites Extraorinarii and 5 units of Hastati].

While Bodmelqart expected these legions to attack, he judged the veteran legion to be too far away to pose any threat this season. Indeed, the mercenary legion attacked our forces quickly, but, being mercenaries, the were routed easily without too many losses on our side. However, at the end of autumn, suddenly the veteran legion showed up. At first, Bodmelqart retreated a great distance back to the south, but the Romans were persistant. Judging the terrain, a wooded hillside, to be in our favour, Bodmelqart drew up his battle line, anchored on the left flank by a large rock formation. Here, he put the Sacred Band and the elite Liby-Phoenicians in the front, followed by our hoplite and finally our Spanish men. The right flank was guarded by our African spearmen and Elite Africans. The citizen cavalry was hidden in the woods nearby and Bodmelqart stayed just behind his troops, so that he might encourage them, should their strength waver in the face of such an enemy force.

Although the battlefield was generally level, the Romans had to climb the hillside to get there. As such, they were already tired when the lines met. After a very lengthy engagement, the Roman troops now all being tired, the signal was given to attack. At once, our Spanish and African infantry joined the battle in addition to the horsemen, coming out of the woods from behind the enemy. This sudden attack paniced the Romans and almost at once their forces broke. With a loss of only 150 Carthaginian men, 3000 Romans were slain. Where all the world expected our forces to suffer great casualties at the might of the Roman military, if even victorious, our great general Bodmelqart won Carthage's greatest victory!

Surely, this time next year, Bodmelqart would stand victorious before the walls of the very city of Rome itself. Surely, such a great and noble spirit would conquer the whole of Italy for our great Republic, surely...

https://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2042/ssbq207bodmelqart.png

Wait... What...?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[Sadly, Bodmelqart, aged 31, left no children to avenge his death. He does have a younger brother, but he has never yet seen battle. Command of his army has been taken over by the hero of Messana, Milkherem Oea. Had he lived, Bodmelqart would surely have been made Sophet one day. Truely, the Republic has lost its greatest leader today.]

[Against my expectations, both the Seleucids and Bactrians have managed to postpone their inevitable deaths by at least four years now, despite their only remaining cities having been under siege practically contiuously!]