Post your EB empires!

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Hello fellow EB players!
Since I couldn't find a thread about this subject I decided to make one.

Here is my Kart-Hadastim empire in 192 BC.

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Romaconquered-2-1.jpg

As you can see I have just conquered the Romaoi/Barbaroi and put an end to their empire.

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Hannibal2-3.jpg

Here is the Vanquisher of Roma aptly named Hannibal ( he is probably one of the best generals I've ever had).

Now it's your turn, lets share our empires. :2thumbsup:

Oh and if you want to go more in depth and AAR-ish with your "empire presentation" then that is more than welcome. :D

[Mulceber]

Cool thread - I think it's gonna be fun to see all the pictures. here are mine:

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/Mulceber/Iphonepictures019.jpg
My Romani Campaign. I just kept going with it, even after I'd won. Eventually I established a TRUE Pax Romana by making all the other factions client states. This caused them all to make peace with each other, hence, an end to war. The greatest accomplishment of my..."first citizen," Caius Iulius Caesar Augustus (yes, my Princeps was indeed a member of gens Iulia).

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/Mulceber/Iphonepictures180.jpg
My Arche Seleukeia campaign - just finished it in late December. It was a really fun campaign, and it gave me a good grounding in Hellenistic history for the course on it I'm taking now.

I'll try to get some pictures of the KH and Qarthadastim campaigns I have going and post them up. -M

[anubis88]

Guys, there's the 1.2 faction progression thread in the AARs forum... It's probably the largest thread in the EB forums
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?101742-1-x-AI-Faction-Progression-Thread/page46

[Fluvius Camillus]

Do I have to?

It will look awfully braggish to post my World Empires once again.~D

~Fluvius

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Cool thread - I think it's gonna be fun to see all the pictures. here are mine:

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/Mulceber/Iphonepictures019.jpg
My Romani Campaign. I just kept going with it, even after I'd won. Eventually I established a TRUE Pax Romana by making all the other factions client states. This caused them all to make peace with each other, hence, an end to war. The greatest accomplishment of my..."first citizen," Caius Iulius Caesar Augustus (yes, my Princeps was indeed a member of gens Iulia).

I'll try to get some pictures of the KH and Qarthadastim campaigns I have going and post them up. -M

Cool empires you got there, may I ask what date it is in your Romaoi campaign?


Guys, there's the 1.2 faction progression thread in the AARs forum... It's probably the largest thread in the EB forums
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?101742-1-x-AI-Faction-Progression-Thread/page46

As far as I understand that thread's purpose is to post the progression of the AI not the EB player, please correct me if I'm wrong.


Do I have to?

~Fluvius

Get to work! :whip:

[anubis88]

As far as I understand that thread's purpose is to post the progression of the AI not the EB player, please correct me if I'm wrong.


Seriuosly? Or are you joking? It is the faction progression mod. If you post the map, then both empires are seen, the AI's and yours. Do you think 50 pages of people posted there just so that people can see how the AI's doing?

[Tyrfingr]

Hello fellow EB players!
Since i couldn't see a thread about this subject i decided to make one.

Here is my Kart-Hadastim empire in 192 BC.

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Romaconquered-2-1.jpg

As you can see I have just conquered the Romaoi/Barbaroi and put an end to their empire.

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Hannibal2-3.jpg

Here is the Vanquisher of Roma aptly named Hannibal ( he is probably one of the best generals I've ever had.

Now it's your turn, lets share our empires. :2thumbsup:

Note: Now the pictures should be of a more proper size, still sorry about the enormous pictures I had earlier. :shame:

Snyggt rike Arthur!

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Snyggt rike Arthur!

Tack så mycket kära landsman. :bow:

[SwissBarbar]

Seriuosly? Or are you joking? It is the faction progression mod. If you post the map, then both empires are seen, the AI's and yours. Do you think 50 pages of people posted there just so that people can see how the AI's doing?

He's not joking, actually that thread's purpose really is to see, how the AI is doing. That's why it's called AI-Faction-progression. Of course at the same time you see how the player is doing as well, which is interesting too.

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Seriuosly? Or are you joking? It is the faction progression mod. If you post the map, then both empires are seen, the AI's and yours. Do you think 50 pages of people posted there just so that people can see how the AI's doing?

I thought that the original reason for that thread was to post the progression of the AI to help the EB team to see if any faction is overpowered or underpowered and then change those things accordingly in a later version of the mod.
It would seem I was correct. :brood:

[anubis88]

I thought that the original reason for that thread was to post the progression of the AI to help the EB team to see if any faction is overpowered or underpowered and then change those things accordingly in a later version of the mod.
It would seem I was wrong, my apologies.

Or was I not wrong? This is confusing...

Yes well, i'm not denying that this was the original purpose of the thread, however since i looked the threads every new entry for the last year or so, i can definetly tell you that people are posting there to show how their game is progressing in general, to see how everything s' going on. It's basicly show your province-kingdom-empire and the AI thread.

I don't want to say anything. By all means, create a new thread, i just think people post there for this reason

[Fluvius Camillus]

[..] Get to work! :whip:

As you wish Sire!

From EB1.0, the first time I took the world (Epiros).
https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/KlearchostheGod.jpg?t=1265918424

From EB1.1, another world empire (Romani).
https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/PaxRomanum.jpg?t=1265918504

From EB1.2, the Pontic Empire, currently paused.
https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/PonticEmpire.jpg?t=1265919158

From EB1.2, my paused Celtic Empire (also check the mad Pahlava).
https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/Celticum.jpg?t=1265918706

From EB1.2, the new Baktrian world order.
https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/AAR31.jpg?t=1265918946

From EB1.2, my fresh Seleukid campaign (now also plus Patala and Sinope).
https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/AS3.jpg?t=1265919088

Happy?~D

~Fluvius

[Mulceber]

As always, VERY impressive, Fluvius!


Cool empires you got there, may I ask what date it is in your Romaoi campaign?

I'm not sure exactly what date, but I think that I finally stopped somewhere around 20-10 BCE. I'll have to check. I really should take better pictures. How do you use the print-screen button? I mean, I know you press it, but where do you find the picture your computer took afterward? Thanks, -M

[Brennus]

Well Fluvius, I know feel totally inadequate. Here's to ya the new Alexandros Magas!

[XSamatan]

How do you use the print-screen button? I mean, I know you press it, but where do you find the picture your computer took afterward? Thanks, -M

I would recommend to use a program like fraps, IIRC version 1.9d should be freeware and working with EB, the newer versions are just shareware.

XSamatan

[Fluvius Camillus]

But if you do use Print screen it is copied, so you have to paste it somewhere (like paint), then save as Jpeg and you have your pic.

~Fluvius

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

As you wish Sire!

From EB1.0, the first time I took the world (Epiros).
https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/KlearchostheGod.jpg?t=1265918424

From EB1.1, another world empire (Romani).
https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/PaxRomanum.jpg?t=1265918504

From EB1.2, the Pontic Empire, currently paused.
https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/PonticEmpire.jpg?t=1265919158

From EB1.2, my paused Celtic Empire (also check the mad Pahlava).
https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/Celticum.jpg?t=1265918706

From EB1.2, the new Baktrian world order.
https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/AAR31.jpg?t=1265918946

From EB1.2, my fresh Seleukid campaign (now also plus Patala and Sinope).
https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/AS3.jpg?t=1265919088

Happy?~D



~Fluvius

I am most pleased:evilgrin:

On a more serious note though: OMG! :dizzy2: Fluvius is taking over the world! Run!

That must have taken quite some time though!


As always, VERY impressive, Fluvius!

I'm not sure exactly what date, but I think that I finally stopped somewhere around 20-10 BCE.

You played that long?! That's a lot of turns.

[Tanit]

My favourite Carthage campaign I have ever played, 1.0. Here is the army of Aulius Florius Crispin whom I bribed from the Romans and used to conquer all of Italy, including Rome, where I won a Heroic victory, defeated an army of over 3,000 Barbarians in the Alps with only 20 casualties, retrained the army and set sail for Britain when the game finally crashed. Had conquered all of Italy, Spain, west Africa, Greece, Crete and Cyprus.

https://b.imagehost.org/t/0538/Aulius_Florius_Crispin_with_Admiral_Balhanno.jpg (https://b.imagehost.org/download/0538/Aulius_Florius_Crispin_with_Admiral_Balhanno)

[Mulceber]

Ok, thanks to all your great help, I managed to figure it out. XSamatan, Fluvius, have a balloon. :balloon2:

@ Arthur - I just checked and it turns out I didn't play quite as long as I thought I did - my last saved game is from 36 BCE.

And here are the images:

IMPERIVM ROMANVM 36 BCE
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/042/e/a/IMPERIVM_ROMANVM_36_BCE_by_mulceber.jpg

HE ARCHE SELEYKEIA 202 BCE
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/042/d/a/he_arche_seleukeia_202_BCE_by_mulceber.jpg

HE ARCHE TOY KOINOY HELLENOY (in progress) 204 BCE
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/042/7/f/he_arche_tou_koinou_hellenou_by_mulceber.jpg

Safot Softim BiQarthadast (in progress) 234 BCE
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/042/4/d/Safot_Softim_BiQarthadast_234_by_mulceber.jpg

How's that? -M

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

My favourite Carthage campaign I have ever played, 1.0. Here is the army of Aulius Florius Crispin whom I bribed from the Romans and used to conquer all of Italy, including Rome, where I won a Heroic victory, defeated an army of over 3,000 Barbarians in the Alps with only 20 casualties, retrained the army and set sail for Britain when the game finally crashed. Had conquered all of Italy, Spain, west Africa, Greece, Crete and Cyprus.

https://b.imagehost.org/t/0538/Aulius_Florius_Crispin_with_Admiral_Balhanno.jpg (https://b.imagehost.org/download/0538/Aulius_Florius_Crispin_with_Admiral_Balhanno)

Cool empire Tanit.




And here are the images:

IMPERIVM ROMANVM 36 BCE
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/042/e/a/IMPERIVM_ROMANVM_36_BCE_by_mulceber.jpg

HE ARCHE SELEYKEIA 202 BCE
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/042/d/a/he_arche_seleukeia_202_BCE_by_mulceber.jpg

HE ARCHE TOY KOINOY HELLENOY (in progress) 204 BCE
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/042/7/f/he_arche_tou_koinou_hellenou_by_mulceber.jpg

Safot Softim BiQarthadast (in progress) 234 BCE
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/042/4/d/Safot_Softim_BiQarthadast_234_by_mulceber.jpg

How's that? -M

That's great Mulceber!


@ Arthur - I just checked and it turns out I didn't play quite as long as I thought I did - my last saved game is from 36 BCE.


Ah so it was 36 BC, I've never played that long, guess I don't have the patience. :laugh4:


Ok, thanks to all your great help, I managed to figure it out. XSamatan, Fluvius, have a balloon. :balloon2:
And here are the images:


Oh and sorry I didn't answer your question, my Internet connection was not working at the time. :shame:
Seems the other guys helped you though.

Here's my Makedonian Empire and it's Basileus in 193 BC :

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Makedonia-1.jpg

The Basileus is a hero of the Romaoi war.
He's an alcoholic, depressed and a bit of a racist but other than that he is a jolly good chap and the people love him (he has the "Extremely happy people" trait). He also have good stats.

I've given Thorakitai to Makedonia by the way as you can see in the picture.

edit: Wait a second.. Both generals I've posted had conquered the Romans and both pictures were taken at nearly the same date.
I didn't even think about that when I posted them.. that's odd. :inquisitive:

[Paltmull]

Romani 195 BC:

https://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss154/paltmull/jaojhao.jpg

That's where I got bored with the campaign,and stopped

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Romani 195 BC:

https://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss154/paltmull/jaojhao.jpg

That's where I got bored with the campaign,and stopped

Interesting roman empire that, and how did you get a pic of just the minimap?

[SwissBarbar]

Interesting roman empire that, and how did you get a pic of just the minimap?

Well he cropped the Printscreen

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Well he cropped the Printscreen

I see.

[SwissBarbar]

Roman Empire 83 BC

https://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1624/unbenanntkob.png

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Roman Empire 83 BC

https://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1624/unbenanntkob.png


Nice one, have you got the Augustan reforms in that campaign?

[SwissBarbar]

Nice one, have you got the Augustan reforms in that campaign?

Thank you. Unfortunately not, I have not enough provinces yet. You need 90 of them for the reforms, I have not quite so many. Maybe soon. The Sweboz are attacking and I'm thinking about going north.

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Thank you. Unfortunately not, I have not enough provinces yet. You need 90 of them for the reforms, I have not quite so many. Maybe soon. The Sweboz are attacking and I'm thinking about going north.

The Augustan Reforms are almost impossible to get right? Swêboz can get quite annoying when they reach that size, even more so with the enormous Ptolemaio empire you're facing.
And did they wipe out 4 factions (i.e AS, Hai Pahlava and Baktria) on their own?

[Hax]

SwissBarbar: Do you mind hosting the savegame here for us, if it's 1.2 compatible?

[SwissBarbar]

The Augustan Reforms are almost impossible to get right? Swêboz can get quite annoying when they reach that size, even more so with the enormous Ptolemaio empire you're facing.
And did they wipe out 4 factions (i.e AS, Hai Pahlava and Baktria) on their own?

Wait, I told not the truth ^^ I just realized, that I got 105 Provinces, meaning enough for the Augustan Reforms. Must have had the number of Provinces in mind, which I had before conquering Mikra Asia. Since I have more than 400 battles fought, the Augustan reforms now only depend on the right FM to come.
Yes, the Ptolemaioi did all except Baktria by themselves. Baktria was defeated by the Pahlava. The greatest strength the Ptolies had, was when they used to posses all they have now PLUS all of Egypt and Mikra Asia. For example:

This is 160 BC:

https://img638.imageshack.us/img638/3403/unbenanntcc.png

And this is 104 BC:

https://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9920/unbenanntle.png

Now imagine the Ptolemaic Empire in between these Dates, f.e. 130 BC. It was an insane fight. They had fullstacks of elite troops with experience they gained in their fights against AS, Baktria, Pahlava and the Hay. I lost about 30'000 soldiers to conquer Egypt alone.



SwissBarbar: Do you mind hosting the savegame here for us, if it's 1.2 compatible?

Wasn't there a possibility to upload files directly in the forum. Is it gone? Where to find it?

[Hax]

When you click "Reply" and then "Go Advanced", you'll see a button in the lower part of the screen that says "Manage Attachments". You can probably do it from there ;)

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Originally Posted by SwissBarbar
Wait, I told not the truth ^^ I just realized, that I got 105 Provinces, meaning enough for the Augustan Reforms. Must have had the number of Provinces in mind, which I had before conquering Mikra Asia. Since I have more than 400 battles fought, the Augustan reforms now only depend on the right FM to come.
Yes, the Ptolemaioi did all except Baktria by themselves. Baktria was defeated by the Pahlava. The greatest strength the Ptolies had, was when they used to posses all they have now PLUS all of Egypt and Mikra Asia. For example:

This is 160 BC:

And this is 104 BC:



Now imagine the Ptolemaic Empire in between these Dates, f.e. 130 BC. It was an insane fight. They had fullstacks of elite troops with experience they gained in their fights against AS, Baktria, Pahlava and the Hay. I lost about 30'000 soldiers to conquer Egypt alone.


30´000 losses?! That's like what, 10 fullstacks?! Can't imagine what kind of manpower The Yellow Feever have in that case.
Fighting all those gold chevroned elite fullstacks must have been a pain in the duck, hopefully in EB II the Ptolemaio will be weakened, they always seem to blitz the east.

[Mulceber]

hopefully in EB II the Ptolemaio will be weakened, they always seem to blitz the east.

Agreed. Them and the AS. Having played the AS, I can say that if you weather the first 20-30 turns, the rest of the campaign is easy as pie. The one hard part towards the end for me was the invasion of mainland Greece, where I was sustaining heavy casualties. Otherwise it was really easy. Pahlava needs to be strengthened. The Ptolemaioi need...something. Maybe a less stable public order so that there might be more revolts - I remember reading about a pretty nasty one they had in Polybius. Although I'm not nearly enough of an expert to say whether or not that revolt was typical. Another thought, maybe they should get a lot of bad traits as time goes on to represent the inbreeding customs that they picked up from the Egyptians. -M

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Agreed. Them and the AS. Having played the AS, I can say that if you weather the first 20-30 turns, the rest of the campaign is easy as pie. The one hard part towards the end for me was the invasion of mainland Greece, where I was sustaining heavy casualties. Otherwise it was really easy. Pahlava needs to be strengthened. The Ptolemaioi need...something. Maybe a less stable public order so that there might be more revolts - I remember reading about a pretty nasty one they had in Polybius. Although I'm not nearly enough of an expert to say whether or not that revolt was typical. Another thought, maybe they should get a lot of bad traits as time goes on to represent the inbreeding customs that they picked up from the Egyptians. -M

I as far as I remember revolts was not too uncommon in the AS and the Ptolematic empire, the loyalty feature in MTW II will probably come in handy.
And about the inbreeding, it really sucks that you can't marry princesses to their brothers, would make for some interesting roleplaying don't you think? :clown:

[SwissBarbar]

30´000 losses?! That's like what, 10 fullstacks?! Can't imagine what kind of manpower The Yellow Feever have in that case.
Fighting all those gold chevroned elite fullstacks must have been a pain in the duck, hopefully in EB II the Ptolemaio will be weakened, they always seem to blitz the east.

Indeed. That's what was insane. I mean.. it's not the first time that I have fought a great ptolemaic empire, but indeed the first time that they defended them so well. I must say, that I never replay lost battles, retreat, if the losses get too high, and I see that the battle is lost (though this depends from the general's traits) and I never place one Unit upon another to get denser formations, etc. I had to train new soldiers permanently in Italy and Spain to compensate the losses. But it was pretty fun.

[SwissBarbar]

Here's the savegame

http://www.file-upload.net/download-2266313/Roma.sav.html

[Fluvius Camillus]

Agreed. Them and the AS. Having played the AS, I can say that if you weather the first 20-30 turns, the rest of the campaign is easy as pie. The one hard part towards the end for me was the invasion of mainland Greece, where I was sustaining heavy casualties. Otherwise it was really easy. Pahlava needs to be strengthened. The Ptolemaioi need...something. Maybe a less stable public order so that there might be more revolts - I remember reading about a pretty nasty one they had in Polybius. Although I'm not nearly enough of an expert to say whether or not that revolt was typical. Another thought, maybe they should get a lot of bad traits as time goes on to represent the inbreeding customs that they picked up from the Egyptians. -M

Ptolemaioi have no reforms yet, I suggest a reform that will make Machimoi (phalanx, infantry and cavalry) recruitable (some kind of Raphia reform), so that they can't pump out too many fullstacks early on, only later.

~Fluvius

[Alien of Germania]

ow! Impressive empires Fluvius Camillus nice screenshots. My Seleucid Empire is almost at the world domination atm, will post pics later.

[gollum]

Nice empires, all.

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Ptolemaioi have no reforms yet, I suggest a reform that will make Machimoi (phalanx, infantry and cavalry) recruitable (some kind of Raphia reform), so that they can't pump out too many fullstacks early on, only later.

~Fluvius

Come to think about it, the recruiment system in MTW II with recruiment pools is not as blitz-friendly as the recruitment system in RTW, it will probably suit EB better. :2thumbsup:
And some kind of reform for Ptolemaio would be nice.

[phoenixemperor]

421

Got lucky in that AS didn't bother me until 263BC and sent piddly little armies I could easily deal with. Used FD a bit to try and get Pahlava, Pontos and Baktria to actually do something, but only Pahlava actually has. That Ptolemaioi army besieging Karkathiokerta is thanks to the genius of the AI - "My god we now share a miniscule border, I guess we better go to war" :wall:

[SwissBarbar]

Cool Hay Empire.
IDK if Ptoly-Reforms help. If the Ptolies are too weak the AS will go crazy with a great empire. Somehow both must be stopped from eating each other and then having an insane Empire.

[Macilrille]

Nice Hay Empire indeed, a difficult faction at best. Well done Sir.

I think the way to avoid either the Yellow Fever or the Grey Death is to have high discontent in their cities somehow. I just had a go at WRI in BI and there is nothing that curbs your ambitions as high discontent and ruined economy combined.

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Nice Hay Empire indeed, a difficult faction at best. Well done Sir.

I think the way to avoid either the Yellow Fever or the Grey Death is to have high discontent in their cities somehow. I just had a go at WRI in BI and there is nothing that curbs your ambitions as high discontent and ruined economy combined.

Yeah that ought to do it, I'm not sure where I read it but I remember that the team stated that they are going to change the base public order from 100% to 50% in EB II.

[Fluvius Camillus]

Cool Hay Empire.
IDK if Ptoly-Reforms help. If the Ptolies are too weak the AS will go crazy with a great empire. Somehow both must be stopped from eating each other and then having an insane Empire.

Well, it is quite historical that they eat up each other, they are sworn enemies and if Rome did not interfere in history, the decaying Ptollies would have been taken by the Seleukids. Imagine both lands combined under someone like Antiochos III Megas Or IV Epiphanes. Both empires had a good chance to become one of the dominant empires of the time, instead of the Romani. But Romani never expand east in my campaigns, so they don't interfere as in history, so apart from the annoyance of fighting fullstacks, there is nothing strange about it.

~Fluvius

[phoenixemperor]

Nice Hay Empire indeed, a difficult faction at best. Well done Sir..

Few tough battles but it was mostly done with the troops I started off with - now silver chevron Caucasian Archers and Eastern Slingers. My 2nd king died just after I had gotten Karkathiokerta through treaty - the AI being smart for once - which made for a great RP moment - he'd spent his life uniting the Caucasus and died in peace knowing his dream was complete.

[Mulceber]

Ok, I have a quck question:

How the heck did I just win? The map says I'm supposed to have the Kyrene, Paraitonion, Alexandreia and Bocchoris. I don't, yet somehow I've still been given victory by the computer.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/050/4/2/he_arche_tou_koinou_hellenou_2_by_mulceber.jpg -M

[Karo]

Ok, I have a quck question:

How the heck did I just win? The map says I'm supposed to have the Kyrene, Paraitonion, Alexandreia and Bocchoris. I don't, yet somehow I've still been given victory by the computer.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/050/4/2/he_arche_tou_koinou_hellenou_2_by_mulceber.jpg -M

I think it's because the maps aren't correct, you should look at the Vistory conditions trait.

[Shadow_LT]

But, in EB 1.2 you need to have Kyrene in order to win as KH, so you shouldn't have won. Unless you are playing EB 1.0 or 1.1 and victory conditions were changed.

[Mulceber]

I'm playing 1.1, although I'm pretty sure I didn't change any victory conditions - at least, I can't think of any way by which I might have done so. -M

[Shadow_LT]

I mean that EB team may have changed victory conditions in EB 1.2 and they are different from the ones in EB 1.1 . Victory condition maps were made for 0.80 or 1.0 (I remember seeing a post about it), so they are outdated. You should look at your FL victory conditions trait or press the "?" button in faction overview screen (but that may not work as you have already won).

[Mulceber]

Just checked my faction leader's scroll and here's what I found:

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/050/9/0/KH_victory_conditions_by_mulceber.jpg

So apparently I did win legitimately. =D Although I must say, I'm surprised by how few settlements the KH must hold - I mean, sure, they're very disparate, and I suppose that's what makes for the challenge, but still, not very many. I mean, I didn't even really need to conquer Asia Minor. -M

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Ok, I have a quck question:

How the heck did I just win? The map says I'm supposed to have the Kyrene, Paraitonion, Alexandreia and Bocchoris. I don't, yet somehow I've still been given victory by the computer.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/050/4/2/he_arche_tou_koinou_hellenou_2_by_mulceber.jpg -M


Cool KH empire that, and quite alot of money in your purse.

[shootie]

Makedonia 258 B.C

Got a bit of a situation


http://i49.tinypic.com/xnykw9.jpg

Well here is my current situation. I sort of admit I blitzed to conquer Greece. I defeated KH in Greece by 269 BC (Would of been earlier only I decided to try Starve Sparta instead of having to try defeat Spartan Hoplites in the city center . Suprisingly, Pyrrhos decided to walk away from Pella in turn 1. And he would live to regret it.

I sent Antigonos back to Pella. By this time he was 50 and his movement points restricted. I couldnt really afford to lose ground, I needed to take Epirus. I Gave control of the Royal Army to Auetesion Proiretos. Who pushed the Epirote Army all the way back to Ambrakia. And When Epirus sallied forth they were beaten outside the city, however they just wouldnt die in the city center and defeated the Macedonian army and killed Proiretos.

Thats when I moved Antigonos' second son Alkyoneus to re-make the army and finally capture Ambrakia. After which very suprisingly, Epirus accepted my Protectorate demand.

Ever since Ive been developing my cities (Population was dangerously low due to making new army after 1st seige of Ambrakia.) I took Serdike and Tylis.

This is where my problem comes in. I was about to take a Black Sea town with my Main army, when I noticed Pontus captured Byzantion. I moved my army back to Tylis, Where there was a near-full stack Pontic army standing right outside. They retreated and its been a stand-off at Byzantion for the last 2 years. I dont know where to go next. We are still Neutral by the way. My spies tell me that Pontus have hardly any troops in their 4 towns (2-3 unit garrisons. Nikaia has 1 unit, their faction leader.). But If I attack and lose (Im really poor at playing seiges, in all my years of RTW its been my one weakness) I leave my myself open to attack from Rome (Epirus holding their own in Italy mind you.) And there is potential of the Seleukids Betraying me (They have a full stack spammed with Medium Phalanx trying to take KH last settlment Halikarnassos, failing and then seiging Pergamon instead of attacking Pontos FFS :whip:

[vartan]

Makedonia 258 B.C

Got a bit of a situation

http://i49.tinypic.com/xnykw9.jpg

Well here is my current situation. I sort of admit I blitzed to conquer Greece. I defeated KH in Greece by 269 BC (Would of been earlier only I decided to try Starve Sparta instead of having to try defeat Spartan Hoplites in the city center . Suprisingly, Pyrrhos decided to walk away from Pella in turn 1. And he would live to regret it.

I sent Antigonos back to Pella. By this time he was 50 and his movement points restricted. I couldnt really afford to lose ground, I needed to take Epirus. I Gave control of the Royal Army to Auetesion Proiretos. Who pushed the Epirote Army all the way back to Ambrakia. And When Epirus sallied forth they were beaten outside the city, however they just wouldnt die in the city center and defeated the Macedonian army and killed Proiretos.

Thats when I moved Antigonos' second son Alkyoneus to re-make the army and finally capture Ambrakia. After which very suprisingly, Epirus accepted my Protectorate demand.

Ever since Ive been developing my cities (Population was dangerously low due to making new army after 1st seige of Ambrakia.) I took Serdike and Tylis.

This is where my problem comes in. I was about to take a Black Sea town with my Main army, when I noticed Pontus captured Byzantion. I moved my army back to Tylis, Where there was a near-full stack Pontic army standing right outside. They retreated and its been a stand-off at Byzantion for the last 2 years. I dont know where to go next. We are still Neutral by the way. My spies tell me that Pontus have hardly any troops in their 4 towns (2-3 unit garrisons. Nikaia has 1 unit, their faction leader.). But If I attack and lose (Im really poor at playing seiges, in all my years of RTW its been my one weakness) I leave my myself open to attack from Rome (Epirus holding their own in Italy mind you.) And there is potential of the Seleukids Betraying me (They have a full stack spammed with Medium Phalanx trying to take KH last settlment Halikarnassos, failing and then seiging Pergamon instead of attacking Pontos FFS :whip:

P.S: How do you do Spoiler tags on the org? Im a TWCenter convert.
Syntax:

["SPOIL"]INSERT YOUR TEXT HERE["/SPOIL"]
*remove quotation marks and you're set

[fraoula]

Hmm... Well eventually you will have to attack the AS given that you will want to conquer Asia Minor but it wouldn't hurt if you waited a bit since they seem to be getting beat up by the Ptolemaioi. Same goes for Pontos, you probably will have to expand in the east battling against them although byzantion is buffer-sort-of settlement as it separates Asia from Europe and most likely you don't want to border the AS as they will defenitely attack you. IHMO you should capture Krete and get some archers, consolidate greece and try to build some mines in tylis. Also the adriatic cities (dalminion, segestica) might be the most profitable with +2 mines in the game along with Pella, so you might want to get your hands on them. Good job capturing Rhodos by the way. 9 times out of 10 there is a fullstack of elites guarding the city whenever I try to take it so most of the times it is a while before I try to.

[shootie]

Hmm... Well eventually you will have to attack the AS given that you will want to conquer Asia Minor but it wouldn't hurt if you waited a bit since they seem to be getting beat up by the Ptolemaioi. Same goes for Pontos, you probably will have to expand in the east battling against them although byzantion is buffer-sort-of settlement as it separates Asia from Europe and most likely you don't want to border the AS as they will defenitely attack you. IHMO you should capture Krete and get some archers, consolidate greece and try to build some mines in tylis. Also the adriatic cities (dalminion, segestica) might be the most profitable with +2 mines in the game along with Pella, so you might want to get your hands on them. Good job capturing Rhodos by the way. 9 times out of 10 there is a fullstack of elites guarding the city whenever I try to take it so most of the times it is a while before I try to.

Yeah seems a good idea. A thought I had was to capture Byzantion and gift it to my Dogs Epirus. And If Pontos take it back they would have a depleted army. Krete I havent really thought about capturing, mainly because I was busy with the Epriote war. I send a little 6-unit army to check out Rhodos as my spy in Asia Minor told me that the the bulk of the KH force had just emigrated to Asia Minor taking Halikarnassos. My spy told me there was only a unit in Rhodos, a FM. So it was easy enough to take it.

And thanks Vartan! :D

[Fluvius Camillus]

Makedonia 258 B.C

Got a bit of a situation

http://i49.tinypic.com/xnykw9.jpg

Well here is my current situation. I sort of admit I blitzed to conquer Greece. I defeated KH in Greece by 269 BC (Would of been earlier only I decided to try Starve Sparta instead of having to try defeat Spartan Hoplites in the city center . Suprisingly, Pyrrhos decided to walk away from Pella in turn 1. And he would live to regret it.

I sent Antigonos back to Pella. By this time he was 50 and his movement points restricted. I couldnt really afford to lose ground, I needed to take Epirus. I Gave control of the Royal Army to Auetesion Proiretos. Who pushed the Epirote Army all the way back to Ambrakia. And When Epirus sallied forth they were beaten outside the city, however they just wouldnt die in the city center and defeated the Macedonian army and killed Proiretos.

Thats when I moved Antigonos' second son Alkyoneus to re-make the army and finally capture Ambrakia. After which very suprisingly, Epirus accepted my Protectorate demand.

Ever since Ive been developing my cities (Population was dangerously low due to making new army after 1st seige of Ambrakia.) I took Serdike and Tylis.

This is where my problem comes in. I was about to take a Black Sea town with my Main army, when I noticed Pontus captured Byzantion. I moved my army back to Tylis, Where there was a near-full stack Pontic army standing right outside. They retreated and its been a stand-off at Byzantion for the last 2 years. I dont know where to go next. We are still Neutral by the way. My spies tell me that Pontus have hardly any troops in their 4 towns (2-3 unit garrisons. Nikaia has 1 unit, their faction leader.). But If I attack and lose (Im really poor at playing seiges, in all my years of RTW its been my one weakness) I leave my myself open to attack from Rome (Epirus holding their own in Italy mind you.) And there is potential of the Seleukids Betraying me (They have a full stack spammed with Medium Phalanx trying to take KH last settlment Halikarnassos, failing and then seiging Pergamon instead of attacking Pontos FFS :whip:

P.S: How do you do Spoiler tags on the org? Im a TWCenter convert.

Looks good!

May I ask why you changed the colours?

~Fluvius

[shootie]

Looks good!

May I ask why you changed the colours?

~Fluvius

Well, Ive always like Makedonia as blue (In every mod I play) as I think it suits them more than Baktria. And Ive never like Epirus being green too, and I looked at a RTR VII preview and found the Epriote colour "neon" light blue like that and I thought it suited them aswell. So then after doing them both I decided to change alot of colours. You cant quite see in the screen but I changed KH to a sort of colour like the Greek-Cities in Vanilla, Carthage ive never thought white suited a African faction and looking online I found a emblem of Carthage in that colour. Also changed Baktria to a sort of Dark-Flesh colour like in RTR. I never really fell in love with Aremenia being Darker in EB so I made thme Neon too.

[shootie]

Funny enough that this had to happen on the next turn.

Pontos lost to the Seleucid's 2nd Medium phalanx spam army near Ankara

http://i48.tinypic.com/34y1cid.jpg

[Fluvius Camillus]

Funny enough that this had to happen on the next turn.

Pontos lost to the Seleucid's 2nd Medium phalanx spam army near Ankara

http://i48.tinypic.com/34y1cid.jpg

You supported the Seleukids, right?

~Fluvius

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

You supported the Seleukids, right?

~Fluvius

No no don't support the Seleucids, rather use this as an excuse to go on a rampage and reclaiming Asia from those eastern weaklings! :furious3::smash::furious3: Asia belongs to the true heirs of Alexandros empire: The Makedones!

:laugh4:


BTW it would seem it will be some Machemoi reforms in EB II:


Units won't be recruited from barracks in EBII anyway (the majority won't anyways - some units, such as elephants or certain mercenaries, will need a specific building to help house them), and so this is not an issue.

Also, a machmoi reform will be available. However, it will be player-led. The player will need to choose how their land is divided up. Giving out smaller plots will mean the machimoi will only be light troops. By increasing the size of the plots of land that can be owned by farmers, the machimoi will be able to equip and train themselves in a heavier fashion. This will lead to small numbers of machimoi being available for recruitment, however. It will be on a province by province basis, and dependent on how the player wishes to play the game.

Foot

[Nyz]

My Pahlava in 12AD:

https://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7812/pahlava12ad1.jpg

[Mulceber]

Man, gotta say the EB map looks nice in purple. And wow, 12 AD...that's 1136 turns. Kudos for the commitment. -M

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

My Pahlava in 12AD:

https://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7812/pahlava12ad1.jpg

Nice persian empire. So... it's just 8 turns left or somthing right? I must say I'm impressed.

[Nyz]

The last faction that survive before I conquered the world was Casse, and their last settlement was Ivernis at Ireland

I used "move character" cheat to conquer Terhazza (the last place on the earth:laugh4:)

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

The last faction that survive before I conquered the world was Casse, and their last settlement was Ivernis at Ireland

I used "move character" cheat to conquer Terhazza (the last place on the earth:laugh4:)

Do you have some pics of your über generals?

[Fluvius Camillus]

My Pahlava in 12AD:

https://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7812/pahlava12ad1.jpg

Wow such commitment, you did awesome, nice with the time planning! I present you with this fine balloon as reward for your outstanding efforts!:balloon:

~Fluvius

[Nyz]

Wow such commitment, you did awesome, nice with the time planning! I present you with this fine balloon as reward for your outstanding efforts!:balloon:

~Fluvius

Thank you very much!!!

[Silence Hunter]

Cool "Purple" empire!! Did you play all the battles yourself? If so then you deserve more than a baloon..

[Nyz]

Cool "Purple" empire!! Did you play all the battles yourself? If so then you deserve more than a baloon..

Of course not!!! I played the battles myself at the beginning of the game, you know..... when your faction only had 2 nomadic town at the coast of Caspia.... facing the great empire of Seleukiea.....no chance of winning If I auto-resolve the battle....

But after the empire growing steadily, more battles were auto-resolved. You know....avoiding CTD issues....

[Mulceber]

If so then you deserve more than a baloon..

Yeah, if so he deserves a life.:tongue2::tongue2: Just kidding Intifadanyz. -M

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Yeah, if so he deserves a life.:tongue2::tongue2: Just kidding Intifadanyz. -M
:laugh4:

[Madoushi]

I tried to take some screenshots from one of my games (not from this thread, my empire has just begun), but whether I PrntScrn or Ctrl+PrntScrn, it never sends the pic to my clipboard. I wonder if it's a Windows 7 thing...

[SwissBarbar]

Anti-Aliasing off - PrntScrn - back to desktop - open paint - ctrl + v

[Mulceber]

On some computers you may have to hold down the function key as well while you're clicking print-screen. -M

[VIPERLORD]

G'day all

Just curious on what difficulty level that purple world was achieved? And apart from the final 'move stack' to take that last settlement were any cheats used?

[Madoushi]

Anti-Aliasing off - PrntScrn - back to desktop - open paint - ctrl + v

That's what I've been trying.


On some computers you may have to hold down the function key as well while you're clicking print-screen. -M
Function key.. the Windows key? I'll try that, thanks . :D

[Silence Hunter]

Not much of an empire, more of a confederation:

https://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh32/Artax0214/RomeTW-ALX2010-03-0101-20-16-93.jpg

[Mulceber]

Hey, it's a work in progress. Who are you allied with and at war with? -M

[Madoushi]

That one is very cool. Seems like all the major players are still around.

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Not much of an empire, more of a confederation

You're playing as Saba right?

[Fluvius Camillus]

You're playing as Saba right?

I'll vote for Saka.... Or Pontos!

[Biowulf]

I'd say Pontos or Getai.

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

I'll vote for Saka.... Or Pontos!

Let the competion begin! :laugh4:

I guessed Saba cuz that's the only faction without some text on it, except for AS though but they look too small.

[Hax]

Getai, obviously. I've never seen a Getai AI go for Dalminion and Segestika. It's more likely that the Sab'yn have no text because he forgot about them! ;)

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Getai, obviously. I've never seen a Getai AI go for Dalminion and Segestika. It's more likely that the Sab'yn have no text because he forgot about them! ;)

Lulz yeah didn't think about that, Getai are too passive while controlled by the AI, in due time we will see..

[Fluvius Camillus]

Getai, obviously. I've never seen a Getai AI go for Dalminion and Segestika. It's more likely that the Sab'yn have no text because he forgot about them! ;)

Human players would probably be smart enough (no offence) to go for the riches of Hellas. Or at least finish off the Makedones. The campaign probably progressed a while already because Ptollies got ridiculously strong, that takes some time. You probably can't remain at peace with the Makedones and KH for that long.

Saka Rauka plays slow because the lack of cash. Sab'yn player would have Axum, also if you are Saba here you have probably lost.~D

Who could forget about Saba?:clown:

~Fluvius

[Silence Hunter]

I didn't even think that my map will encourage discussion what faction I'm playing. I completely forgot to write where Saba is...

Yeah I'm Getai. Playing a slow and roleplaying game. Just recently unified the lands you see in my map and the year is 227BC I believe. At war with KH, who declared war on me just recently (about 2 turns before the pic was taken), allied with Sweboz, Carthage (because was fighting Rome) and Pontus.

My faction leader is defending southern border and ambushing greeks, while my best general (6 command stars +1 when attacking) is ravaging northern Italy.

Overall this campaign surprised me by faction expansion (look at Pontus, continuing Gallic wars, there was even Rome vs Carthage war in Iberia, which now ceased). The only faction destroyed is Epeiros, but I was partly responsible for that. The diplomacy is very nice too. I was constatly involved in Makedonia/KH/Epeiros struggle, alied with one of them all the time, but changing diplomatic stances depending on situation. Macedon used to be the most powerful of the three, then Epeiros and now it's KH. Romans started asking for peace once I was ravaging northern Italy too, really strange as I still shared a border with them, but crushed two major armies.

Very pleasant game so far. Once my general returns from Italy I'm going to burn Greece abit :D

[[cF]HanBaal]

https://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9461/3karthadast242bc.png

~:wacko:

[Fluvius Camillus]

Don't you need to build?:clown:

I've already seen this one, still very nice, maybe I could beat this if I also went for ultra blitz mode.

~Fluvius

[anubis88]

Blitzing just got a completly new meaning

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

HanBaal;2444753']https://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9461/3karthadast242bc.png

~:wacko:

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Romaconquered-2-1.jpg

Why do I get the impression that I'm roleplaying more than you do... :surprised: :clown:

[Alexokrat]

@HanBaal: how could you conquer the world that fast? :stunned:

[shootie]

@HanBaal: how could you conquer the world that fast? :stunned:


Cant beat good old fashioned Rushing my friend :D

Nice white empire.

[VIPERLORD]

G'day folks. long time reader, short time poster.

Would it please be possible when posting your conquests to state what difficulty level you played on the campaign map and the battles?

I've just recently started playing EB (big fan but just got a pc that can run the thing nicely lol) and have begun a Casse campaign on VH/VH.

Thanks

[Hax]

The world looks good in white.

[[cF]HanBaal]

Blitzing just got a completly new meaning


Cant beat good old fashioned Rushing my friend :D

Nice white empire.

Thanks for the compliments all. Did this not too long ago in Medium (battle) / VH (campaign) only using Fog of War, most of the times to find my way into the steppes' settlements.




Don't you need to build?:clown:

I've already seen this one, still very nice, maybe I could beat this if I also went for ultra blitz mode.

~Fluvius

"Build"? Check my financial annual report. Do you have yours by the time you finished those campaigns?

"Beat this"? You can try xD



@HanBaal: how could you conquer the world that fast?

Wasn't that hard. There are far more unpredictable things in war. How could a 26.000 army and 37 elephants (who died after the first battle due to the cold) cross the Alps, enter a country with a +750.000 recruiting pool of man, kill more than 300.000 better equiped soldiers, destroy more than 400 settlements and remain undefeated in enemy ground for 16 years before leaving with virtually no reinforcements nor supply lines? How could this same man along with his father conquer almost the whole of Iberia in two decades what it took Rome almost 2 centuries and hundreds of thousands of losses to achieve? That I would like to have seen with my own eyes =)

[vartan]

Hannibal is my hero.

[Madoushi]

HanBaal;2444753']

~:wacko:

That... that's just not right. :sad:

[Unintended BM]

https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-03-0817-18-59-12.jpg

My nice Sweboz empire. Up to this point, I've been using a lot of bodyguard units to fight all of my battles, but I think I've gotten to the point where I can afford regular infantry. I just lost like 3 FMs in a row in the last few battles, so I should give them a break for a while so I don't lost too many.

The Aedui are my good friends. I share a large border with them, but I pay them a lot of money, and they seem happy enough. I bet once the Arverni get wiped out, they'll attack me. I'll probably send a big army down to sack Rome and surrounding cities pretty soon. I always like to do that in my Sweboz games. I also plan on invading Britain at some point in the near future, maybe after the Aedui are gone.

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-03-0817-18-59-12.jpg

My nice Sweboz empire. Up to this point, I've been using a lot of bodyguard units to fight all of my battles, but I think I've gotten to the point where I can afford regular infantry. I just lost like 3 FMs in a row in the last few battles, so I should give them a break for a while so I don't lost too many.

The Aedui are my good friends. I share a large border with them, but I pay them a lot of money, and they seem happy enough. I bet once the Arverni get wiped out, they'll attack me. I'll probably send a big army down to sack Rome and surrounding cities pretty soon. I always like to do that in my Sweboz games. I also plan on invading Britain at some point in the near future, maybe after the Aedui are gone.

Nice one. :2thumbsup:

[Unintended BM]

Update.

https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-03-0912-55-18-82.jpg
I just thought this was funny.

https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-03-0913-10-58-98.jpg
My incredibly cheap army that I put together in about 3 seconds just to get the aedui out of gaul.

https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-03-0913-13-19-74.jpg
My old and crazy good faction leader. Most things rout if they fight him for more than a minute or two. He sucks at governing places though, so I'm just gonna keep on having him fight until he dies of old age. I doubt anything could kill him in battle at this point.

https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-03-0913-22-56-40.jpg
https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-03-0913-23-08-76.jpg
https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-03-0913-23-54-53.jpg
https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-03-0913-24-03-16.jpg
Gaul, Germania, the struggle over Massalia, and the approaching Lusatanians. I guess my Rome sacking and Britain invading will have to wait until I conquer Iberia. I think the aedui and arverni will keep Rome busy for at least a little while.

[WinsingtonIII]

My old and crazy good faction leader. Most things rout if they fight him for more than a minute or two. He sucks at governing places though, so I'm just gonna keep on having him fight until he dies of old age. I doubt anything could kill him in battle at this point.

Your faction leader has "seen the elephant?" Who did he fight that had elephants in their army, the Romani?

He's a pretty awesome faction leader though


I've just recently started playing EB (big fan but just got a pc that can run the thing nicely lol) and have begun a Casse campaign on VH/VH.

Viperlord, you should bring the battle difficulty down to Medium, anything above that gives unrealistic stat bonuses to the AI's units that completely messes up the unit stat balancing of EB. Very Hard is the suggested campaign difficulty for EB, however many players prefer Medium or Hard because it makes for a better historical roleplaying game, where diplomacy may actually be an option. The VH campaign AI pretty much just focus on annihilating the player and refuses to engage in sensible diplomacy. Not that the lower level AI is much more sensible, but it is a bit better.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Your faction leader has "seen the elephant?" Who did he fight that had elephants in their army, the Romani?
No, that is an extension, a final one, of the Green/Blooded/Veteran/Grizzled/StE trait line. You know, the one which measures how experienced the general is by counting the battles. The name just means he saw an incredible amount of experience, so much that he has practically seen an elephant.


He's a pretty awesome faction leader though
Yeah, the Command stars are awe-inspiring. But the Management is laughable. For my Roman generals, 10infl. and 7-10manag. is the norm.

[WinsingtonIII]

No, that is an extension, a final one, of the Green/Blooded/Veteran/Grizzled/StE trait line. You know, the one which measures how experienced the general is by counting the battles. The name just means he saw an incredible amount of experience, so much that he has practically seen an elephant.

Oh, I never realized that, I thought it actually referred to having fought elephants.


Yeah, the Command stars are awe-inspiring. But the Management is laughable. For my Roman generals, 10infl. and 7-10manag. is the norm.

Yeah, management isn't that hard to gain in EB, but this guy probably hasn't spent any time in settlements because he's too busy on the battlefield. Gaining command that high in EB is quite a feat.

[Unintended BM]

I don't think I've ever had a Sweboz FM with good management. I'm sure if I left some of the good ones in cities for long enough, they'd get good traits and such, but the bodyguards are great, so I always end up making everyone a general.

And yeah, Seen The Elephant means that he has commanded >25 battles, I think.

I'm thinking I might just give my faction leader a good army and send him through Italy as his last huge campaign. Maybe I'll keep Italy instead of just sacking it. That might be fun. Shouldn't be too hard, the Romans haven't expanded much at all. I guess that could make it harder though, because usually when they've expanded, they don't have any troops in Italy, but I guess all of their troops will be there now.

[Aemilius Paulus]

I thought it actually referred to having fought elephants.
That too would be a very interesting trait in it sown right.


Yeah, management isn't that hard to gain in EB, but this guy probably hasn't spent any time in settlements because he's too busy on the battlefield. Gaining command that high in EB is quite a feat.
Well, gaining scrolls and wreaths has always been easier in EB than in vanilla. However, strictly EB-wise, management is more difficult to gain than influence. Practically every single FM I have has 10 influence. Not all have 10 management. That is considerably rarer. Only my best ones have 10 management and influence.

[WinsingtonIII]

However, strictly EB-wise, management is more difficult to gain than influence. Practically every single FM I have has 10 influence. Not all have 10 management. That is considerably rarer. Only my best ones have 10 management and influence.

I've noticed that too, I'm not sure how FM's gain influence, but it doesn't seem to be that difficult. Yeah, I wasn't saying getting high management was easy by any means, I was just saying that compared to gaining command, it is relatively easy.

[Unintended BM]

Well, good management is pretty easy to get, I'd say. Don't you just stick them in a town for a while and they'll get better and better at governing? Does it have anything to do with schools? You don't really have to do any work for it anyway. Stars are way harder because you actually have to fight and stuff to get a really good general. I don't know how you gain influence, but I agree, it is very easy to get.

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Gentlemen! Let's get back to topic shall we? :clown:

I thought I'd post an update to my Makedonian empire:

The current extent of the Arche Makedonia:
https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/dsfdfs.jpg

The Royal Family:
https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Familjetrd.jpg
As you can see my previous Basileus Ισοδοριανοσ has died and his son Νεικον Νικατορ is the new Βασιλευσ. He incorporated the Kart-Hadastim into the empire and managed to form several client kingdoms in Arabia. He also made peace with Saba and the Basileus in Noubaion. He is one of the most brilliant commanders in Arche Makedonia's history and is also a great lawmaker and statesman.

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/NeikonNikator.jpg

Currently he is occupied with subjugating the punic colonies in Iberia, and he also aims for taking control of the great and valuable mines of the vast peninsula, which would hopefully restore the finances to it's former glory. Many Hellenic city-states in the region has also asked for his protection and he will not turn down fellow Hellenes call for help.

Some random pictures:

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/MMM.jpg

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/hffd.jpg

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Maka.jpg

Any comments are appreciated. :bow:

Note: I roleplay that the Kart-Hadast remnants in north africa is the Mamla'ha biMassylim and that the Punic colonies in Iberia are independent city-states. Also Neikon did not personally conquer Arabia if someone really thought so, he organised it though.

[Fluvius Camillus]

Lol you even got yourself some nice TAB killing machines, who's gonna stop you!~D

What's with the army composition, where did the glorious Makedonian phalanx go? What would Alexandros say?:clown: Did you get Hysteroi Pez btw? Or were you unable to keep the Romani alive long enough?

NICE Basileus btw, good that hes still Argeades Argead Makedonian, he has a nice retinue and is promising enough to reach the ultimate 10c/10M/10I stats!

Karneades Akademikos always accompanies the truly great,~D but you will not match my Ultra-Baktrian Faction heir(do the math with the stats if he was Basileus!)

https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/AAR30.jpg?t=1268181750

~Fluvius

[Kikaz]

My budding Saka Dominion:
https://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9528/saka235bc.jpg

more on that later...

[Hannibal Khan the Great]

Hmm... I always blitz with Saka until I own everything east of the Sauromatae and northeast of the Seleukids (including most of Baktria) and Pahlava. Watch for Pahlava and the Yellow Fever though!

[Kikaz]

Hmm... I always blitz with Saka until I own everything east of the Sauromatae and northeast of the Seleukids (including most of Baktria) and Pahlava. Watch for Pahlava and the Yellow Fever though!

Yeah, I took the save up gold path and waited until I had all my mines. Used a lot of it bribing a Baktrian stack that I'm using to take Khiva. Meanwhile, the Pahlava are trying to steal my Chach with their scary cataphracts.

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Lol you even got yourself some nice TAB killing machines, who's gonna stop you!~D

No one, I'm invincible! :laugh4: Lol I've added quite a lot of units (Armoured Indian Elephants for example and I can recruit them in Pella, I roleplay that they are a gift from the Basileus ton Indon whom I have an alliance with).


NICE Basileus btw, good that hes still Argeades Argead Makedonian, he has a nice retinue and is promising enough to reach the ultimate 10c/10M/10I stats!

Glad you liked him, he's quite something eh? I roleplay that he's related to Pyrrhos of Epiros through his great grandmother.


Did you get Hysteroi Pez btw?

Yeah I got em.


Karneades Akademikos always accompanies the truly great,~D but you will not match my Ultra-Baktrian Faction heir(do the math with the stats if he was Basileus!)

https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/AAR30.jpg?t=1268181750

~Fluvius

Cool one that, a bit old for being faction heir though. :laugh4:
Is he Unselfish/Optimistic/Loyal/? It's hard to find good generals/governors which are still Optimistic at that date.
Mine still got more Management than yours.:wink: They share a hatred for the gods it would seem..


What's with the army composition, where did the glorious Makedonian phalanx go?

Well after a while I got bored with the phalanx battles (repetitive, too easy, and a bit static) so I roleplayed a Thorakitai reform after my previous Basileus battled the Romaoi and was "inspired by them", I might roleplay later on that the basileus after my current one, "picks up" the phalanx again.
I still like phalanx battles in general it's just that I played a lot of those in this campaign and didn't want to start a new campaign.


What would Alexandros say? :clown:

Bah! After I'm done with this campaign the feats of Alexandros will seem trivial!

[Duguntz]

DUUUUDEEE... I see your empires... meh, not bad, but what is impresive is your treasures... damn, you all got like 1278568375634723846 Mnai... when I, with sweboz, I'm jumping of joy when i have like 30 000 (generaly after the capture and sacking of a big city)... wich of corse dosen't stay that much for long!

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Well Swêboz have a relatively weak economy compared to the factions round the Mediterranean.

[Duguntz]

Well Swêboz have a relatively weak economy compared to the factions round the Mediterranean.

Well yeah, i play with 'em since about a year and something, i just love to clubs my opponant to death! Mouhahahaha! economy isn't the only issue. I'm playing on Huge settings, and ouf... the population is hard to maintain... the cities loose their folks real fast, and less populace means less income and PAF we just entered in a vicious cercle, as even without high end income, I still must field a pretty expensive army to face multiple fronts... roman to the south, and gauls to the west... Still I love that, it really give a challenge! Now, I also got a kick for Koinon Hellenon

[Os-Q]

That sounds good. I'll have to try the Sweboz, again, on huge settings. I try to RP the ancient germans by keeping my populations very low and recruiting hordes of cheaper units. When I play on other settings (large) my cities still get too populated too quickly.
Also, like you said, I think there's nothing like facing off against the elite, armored forces of the enemy and beating them to death like baby seals! Or just generally using low level units to defeat better troops. (Even moreso if you play as Saba)

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Well yeah, i play with 'em since about a year and something, i just love to clubs my opponant to death! Mouhahahaha! economy isn't the only issue. I'm playing on Huge settings, and ouf... the population is hard to maintain... the cities loose their folks real fast, and less populace means less income and PAF we just entered in a vicious cercle, as even without high end income, I still must field a pretty expensive army to face multiple fronts... roman to the south, and gauls to the west... Still I love that, it really give a challenge! Now, I also got a kick for Koinon Hellenon

Yeah Sweboz is nice I think I'm going to play another campaign as them soon.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Well yeah, i play with 'em since about a year and something, i just love to clubs my opponant to death! Mouhahahaha! economy isn't the only issue. I'm playing on Huge settings, and ouf... the population is hard to maintain... the cities loose their folks real fast, and less populace means less income and PAF we just entered in a vicious cercle, as even without high end income, I still must field a pretty expensive army to face multiple fronts... roman to the south, and gauls to the west... Still I love that, it really give a challenge! Now, I also got a kick for Koinon Hellenon

You should try some African nation in Europa Universalis 3 then.
For a long time clubs are the only weapon available to your soldiers. :grin:

[Unintended BM]

On my Sweboz game, I almost always have my cities on low taxes. It helps to keep the population from getting too low. I also use a lot of mercenaries. There's a very good selection near Sweboz homeland, and if you move down towards the alps, you can get even more.

[Nachtmeister]

Here's a glimpse at my aggressively expanding Sab'yn trade empire;
first, AS assaulted the faction heir's company patrolling the deserts to the south-west of Charax Spasinou,
then, Bostra sent an embassy to request help against the Ptolemaioi.
As the king had just returned to the Red Sea with his part of the royal army when word of the emissaries
reached him, he gave orders to bolster their local defenses with money from the royal treasury and seized
the opportunity offered by this casus belli to occupy the remote province of Eritrea, cut off from Ptolemaic
reinforcements by a huge army of brigands and unemployed mercenaries roaming it's north-western reaches.
Soon, when the extensive re-location of Arabians to the western shore of the Red Sea progresses so far as to
allow for a sufficient garrison to ensure the loyalty of the new vassal state, the king and his army will embark
on a perilous but potentially very rewarding sea voyage to pillage the jewel of the Ptolemaic empire, Alexandreia,
and to take from the Ptolemaic remnant the southern reaches of the Levante.
In the mean time, the faction heir's forces retaliating against the trespassing AS will liberate Babylon and put an
end to Syrian dominion over Mesopotamia and the Keleuthos Bombykike.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=523

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=524

... no cheats of course 'cept for the toggle_fow to make the screenshot of the campaign map, and constant building
in all settlements from the moment enough money had been saved to start building mines in Carna...
This is the point where playing Saba becomes very multicultural and factional troops are limited to a small core around
the general to maintain order and discipline within the armies of regional troops.
Most valuable troop type so far: arabian archer-spearmen.

*EDIT*
The year is 263BC, would have progressed faster but the immense distances to cover while uniting Arabia and the impracticability
of moving the capital when the chief source of income lies in southern Arabia (=>corruption...) make for sluggish expansion from
Charax onward in the east and all but impossible expansion anywhere west of Axum...

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=522

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Here's a glimpse at my aggressively expanding Sab'yn trade empire;
first, AS assaulted the faction heir's company patrolling the deserts to the south-west of Charax Spasinou,
then, Bostra sent an embassy to request help against the Ptolemaioi.
As the king had just returned to the Red Sea with his part of the royal army when word of the emissaries
reached him, he gave orders to bolster their local defenses with money from the royal treasury and seized
the opportunity offered by this casus belli to occupy the remote province of Eritrea, cut off from Ptolemaic
reinforcements by a huge army of brigands and unemployed mercenaries roaming it's north-western reaches.
Soon, when the extensive re-location of Arabians to the western shore of the Red Sea progresses so far as to
allow for a sufficient garrison to ensure the loyalty of the new vassal state, the king and his army will embark
on a perilous but potentially very rewarding sea voyage to pillage the jewel of the Ptolemaic empire, Alexandreia,
and to take from the Ptolemaic remnant the southern reaches of the Levante.
In the mean time, the faction heir's forces retaliating against the trespassing AS will liberate Babylon and put an
end to Syrian dominion over Mesopotamia and the Keleuthos Bombykike.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=523

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=524

... no cheats of course 'cept for the toggle_fow to make the screenshot of the campaign map, and constant building
in all settlements from the moment enough money had been saved to start building mines in Carna...
This is the point where playing Saba becomes very multicultural and factional troops are limited to a small core around
the general to maintain order and discipline within the armies of regional troops.
Most valuable troop type so far: arabian archer-spearmen.

*EDIT*
The year is 263BC, would have progressed faster but the immense distances to cover while uniting Arabia and the impracticability
of moving the capital when the chief source of income lies in southern Arabia (=>corruption...) make for sluggish expansion from
Charax onward in the east and all but impossible expansion anywhere west of Axum...

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=522

Nicely done. :2thumbsup: Do you have some pictures of your faction leader and heir? They sound awsome.

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

edit: oops wrong thread and double post. sorry. :shame:

[Marcus Darkstar]

Hey long time lurker. I just got onto a new Roman campaign with the mini-mod pack installed with BI. I gotta say loving it.

Witness the fruits of the 42 year long rule of Consul Lucius August Cotta

https://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii262/Magus65/LuciusAugustsCotta.jpg

He personally conquered Sicily, Gualish part of Northern Italy, the roman possesions in Iberia, and the rest of Gaul during the last years of his life destroying both Gaulish tribes. But crowning moment of his reign was him getting the Glorious Fool trait and now the Glory Hunter forever enshrining him in my favorite generals I ever played with.

[Hannibal Khan the Great]

Whoa! Did the Romaioi clone Alexandros or something?! That's one of the best faction leaders I've ever seen! Now if he got more management.....

[Marcus Darkstar]

Whoa! Did the Romaioi clone Alexandros or something?! That's nne of the best faction leaders I've ever seen! Now if he got more management.....

He used to have +2 more management than he does now but he got some negetive traits....

lol hes still alive too I expected him to die right then and there when he finnaly got the city. But hes made it to age 71 and hes been sent (with his army) to Iberia to quash some Carthagian strongholds since my second Punic war has commenced. Though hes gotten a bit "testy" in his old age...

eddit: Longest lived faction leader I ever had with the Romaioi. Hes been Consul consectively for at least a decade if not two decades...

[Duguntz]

WHAT SMELLY BARBARIANS??? come and say it in front of my Gawjam sweety, we'll have a chat... XD

[anubis88]

How can your guy be Augustus in 230 BC? Did you mod it some way?

[Poulp']

How can your guy be Augustus in 230 BC? Did you mod it some way?
Anubis read my mind.

@Markus, nice first post and welcome to the org.

[Mulceber]

And also, just something I've had on my mind, why is it "Augusts" instead of "Augustus?" -M

[Marcus Darkstar]

How can your guy be Augustus in 230 BC? Did you mod it some way?

no mod like giving him the title of Augustus a hundred years early. He doesnt even have the trait Augustus. I figure its just a family name Augusts since its spelled differently. I can post another picture showing the rest of his traits lol...

[SwissBarbar]

Augusts does not sound very latin, does it?

[Marcus Darkstar]

WHAT SMELLY BARBARIANS??? come and say it in front of my Gawjam sweety, we'll have a chat... XD

lol He either had to hate them or feels sorry for them. The entire campaign against the barbarians in northern Italy and Gaul has been one of mass enslavement and depopulation. Every time i conqurerd a barbarian city with him it was the ensalve option. So he got quiet proficent at it. I imagine Rome got at least nearly a hundred thousand barbarian slaves from his campaign.

[Marcus Darkstar]

I figure its from one of his titles like the Glory hunter. Since he inspires his men so much.

Augusts-inspiring awe or admiration; majestic: the august presence of the monarch.

[Macilrille]

As a counterweigjht to that Roman imperialism I think we need a nice Sweboz one.

https://img297.imageshack.us/i/rometw2010021918404696.png/

I attacked no one before they attacked me, even Casse. Took some rebel cities in the British Isles then they decided to attack me, so they got it- all as I expected from mad AI.

Game played in 1.1, never succeeded in updating it. And last Saturday-Sunday night with its power turned off, my pc fried its motherboard and harddisc, so the good pics of its progress are all gone :-(


Edited to add, Why on earth can I never post pics? It is here (https://img297.imageshack.us/i/rometw2010021918404696.png/).

[Duguntz]

As a counterweigjht to that Roman imperialism I think we need a nice Sweboz one.



Edited to add, Why on earth can I never post pics? It is here (https://img297.imageshack.us/i/rometw2010021918404696.png/).

I'm working on it!!! and for the pics, I have the same problem than you! can't post any...

[Macilrille]

Well... you know... barbarians and tech...

I link to the pic though, you should like it.

*gets out the sword to teach the computer a lesson*

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

As a counterweigjht to that Roman imperialism I think we need a nice Sweboz one.

https://img297.imageshack.us/i/rometw2010021918404696.png/

I attacked no one before they attacked me, even Casse. Took some rebel cities in the British Isles then they decided to attack me, so they got it- all as I expected from mad AI.

Game played in 1.1, never succeeded in updating it. And last Saturday-Sunday night with its power turned off, my pc fried its motherboard and harddisc, so the good pics of its progress are all gone :-(


Edited to add, Why on earth can I never post pics? It is here (https://img297.imageshack.us/i/rometw2010021918404696.png/).

Cool Swebôz empire. :2thumbsup:

[Macilrille]

Thank you, and yes, it is a nice little empire there, pretty powerful- I like to take the British Isles for their economy (and as a Danish Viking fighting re-enactor I love to emulate my forefathers and invade Britain). I intended to go back at some point to the saved game and take the map as I understand it has never been done with the Sweboz, but motherboard died :-(
Guess I will have to start a new one at some point. But now for Romans.

Though... trying invasions of Gaul and Brittany by sea only and emulating the Vikings thus would be cool, a campaign where I invaded all the places they did chronologically... Hmmm...

[Hannibal Khan the Great]

Well, taking over the Casse as Sweboz is more like the Anglo-Saxon invasions....

[Macilrille]

Angles, Saxons and Jutes, the latter being... me, Aarhus is the capitol of Jutland ;-) But it is Viking re-enactor I am, and it is UK, Ireland and France that pulls.

[Duguntz]

Sweboz empire comming soon! i have a dilema though... I've conquered the whole casse empire but one small settelement with their faction leader (well... the last fm, as i killed all others. so it's a faction leader with 1 command 2 Management and only the influence that his title confer...) with, waiting the fatidic order, 2 stack of silvered chevron (because of multiple campaining in gaul and UK) blood thirsty german led by the best general i ever had (because of the same campains) with the titles of restless warmonger, famously couragous, conquering hero, hate celts, hate stranger, hate slaves with all command bonus that it implies, pillager ... anyway, you get the point... and still, I can't resolve myself to raze that village to the ground (as I did with the whole of their civilisation) because of a nostalgy to see the dissapearence of a culture. so, fellow conquerors, what should I do? Give way to my compassion and let them live in their far away village on the north part of northen britain? or unleash hell and satisfy the flesh eating general that served me so well in all those pillaging of western europe?

The dilema is also because the Romans are dangerously near, with very experianced units due to multiple battles with Aedui, and though i've blacksmith in every cities, the princi[pals armies are in britain and only fresh troops guard the Father Land...

[Hannibal Khan the Great]

Those Wealisc have bothered you long enough! Kill them all!

[Conqueror]

https://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6448/asterixvillage.jpg
Leaving your conquest short of just one Celtic town is a BAD idea :clown:

[Julianus]

Hey long time lurker. I just got onto a new Roman campaign with the mini-mod pack installed with BI. I gotta say loving it.

Witness the fruits of the 42 year long rule of Consul Lucius August Cotta

https://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii262/Magus65/LuciusAugustsCotta.jpg

He personally conquered Sicily, Gualish part of Northern Italy, the roman possesions in Iberia, and the rest of Gaul during the last years of his life destroying both Gaulish tribes. But crowning moment of his reign was him getting the Glorious Fool trait and now the Glory Hunter forever enshrining him in my favorite generals I ever played with.

Not a single Roman under his command except his bodyguard...And it's only 230BC, the prime of Republic.
I wonder how could he return to the City and enjoy his triumph..:juggle2:

[anubis88]

@ Conqueror


ahahahahahahahaha

[Macilrille]

ha ha ha ha good point.
As for those pesky Wolhoz, Kill them, The Vikings left Alfred alone, look what it did to them.

[Marcus Darkstar]

Not a single Roman under his command except his bodyguard...And it's only 230BC, the prime of Republic.
I wonder how could he return to the City and enjoy his triumph..:juggle2:

lol well i did kinda rush the campaign I found resupplying Gallic Swordsmen and Calvary far easier to manage in Gaul. The Roman units are doing garrison duty their more loyal to keep territories with... Plus i found Gallic swordsmen and Sammites better than Princeps.... Especially with Konny's allied legions mod which only Rome can recruit the roman units....

Edit: now that i have the poly reforms ill start using more Italian units eheh...

[Marcus Darkstar]

https://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii262/Magus65/Campaign215.jpg

Right doing a update on my ongoing campaign. This is where i left off for today. Lucius August Cotta finnaly died on 222 BC at the venerable age of 78 but not before he campaigned in Iberia to take the Punic settlements there and to once and for all finish them off in Africa at their new capital in Ippone.

Current Player Faction Progression:
Romani:
War in Iberia: Shortly after Lucius August Cotta took Gader the Iberian Tribes attacked our newly aquired settlements leading to an ongoing mainly defensive war against them having only taken Tyde and Numnantia since the onset of the war.

War in Greece: The War in greece was set off by an failed assasination attempt against a member of the Eperiot Royal family in order to further stalemate the ongoing Greek Civil War (which was going in Eperiots favor at this point). This lead the Allied Legion (the main army that was under the command of Lucius August Cotta in Gaul) to be resembled in Italia under a new commander grandson of the late Lucius August Cotta. Having taken the western greek coastal settlements away from the Eperiots and the Allied Legion moved upon Pella. After a siege it was taken however feeling threatened the Koinon Hellenon declared war against us and attempted to move against Kydonia. Having failed to take the city and diplomats failed to establish an armistice between us we have had reports the Eperiots and Hellenon have entered into an Alliance against us..

War in Africa/Eygp against the Ptolemaio- The war intially went badly for us since we only had a parterly number of roman soldiers in Africa and only a mercenary garrison in the city of Lepki. When the Ptolemaio army attacked with their army of medium and Elite Phalanxes the city's garrison was inevitably overwhelmed. However Roman gold won the day when a new mercenary army was raised near Kart-Hadast and requiped with roman steel (blacksmith upgrades) and then sent against the Ptolemaio garrison at Lepki. The Mercenary army was intercepted outside of Lepki and while the battle was bloody it was decisive. The mercnary forces pinned and flanked the purely phalanx force and utterly decimated it. With their forces in tatters in Africa the town of Lepki was soon taken back and 2 years later a Roman Legion took the city of Kyrene and is waiting for resupply/renforcements to continue expansion into Eygpt.

War against the Swêboz- After making the Getai thier protectorate after a bloody war of expansion a rather small Swêboz army decided to attack the town of Dalminon. To say the least the ignorant barbarians were repelled and our legions on the Romani-Swêboz have begun their attacks against the rather lightly garrisoned Swêboz settlements having already taken one of them in the first year. We have another Romani Legion from Italia heading up from the Alps into Swêboz territory. Swêboz will soon learn the error of attacking the might of Roma. (rather stupid AI move they attacked Dalminon with an insufficent force when they had only 2-3 units in each of their settlements on their border with me since most of their forces were pacifying the Dacians)

[Macilrille]

You will find many a rant (of mine) against the AI Madness of just that sort if you search the forum.

I find that on M/M the problem is only 90% on average as in every 5th or so campaign the AI shows slightly more sense.

[Marcus Darkstar]

You will find many a rant (of mine) against the AI Madness of just that sort if you search the forum.

I find that on M/M the problem is only 90% on average as in every 5th or so campaign the AI shows slightly more sense.

ya though main surprise to me in this campaign was the life of Lucius August Cotta.. lived to the ripe age of 78 and destroyed 3 enemy civilizations of Rome both fueding Gualic tribes and the Carthagians. Never had a faction leader live that long.

Also was surprised about Macedonian relisiliance and the Pontic expansion. The Macedons have mainly been fighitng a war against Pontos for the past oh couple of decades (they rely mostly on regional troops since the other Greek factions pushed them out of most homeland regions).

[Duguntz]

guys, I want to post here my sweboz empire, but I don't know how to post a picture so people can see it here, i mean, not just a link. what do I have to do to post it directly as a picture?

[Drunk Clown]

guys, I want to post here my sweboz empire, but I don't know how to post a picture so people can see it here, i mean, not just a link. what do I have to do to post it directly as a picture?

Easy, go for example to: http://tinypic.com/

Browse for your file (pic). When it's done uploading you see: Image-Code for forums (the code with the ....
copy that code and place it in your message.

Just look at this code for example (you got to click "Reply with Qoute" to see the code):

Removed

[Ibn-Khaldun]

guys, I want to post here my sweboz empire, but I don't know how to post a picture so people can see it here, i mean, not just a link. what do I have to do to post it directly as a picture?

When you are making your post then there is a "Insert Image" button that you could use. You insert the url of your picture and that's it.
Or, you could just use [IMG][/IMG.] tags around the url of your picture(without that dot of course).

[Duguntz]

guys, fellow conquerors, here I present you the Warrior of the Century, undefeated, battle after battle, campaing after campaing, Behold the Great Hrjawulfaz, who will spread Havoc and Hell to all neighbouring faction, and who will dine at the table of the gods after dying gloriously in battle :

https://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy255/Duguntz/?action=view&current=RomeTW-BI2010-03-2011-54-43-20.jpg


Soon, pictures of his conquests will come!

Can you guys see it? coz i can't... offff... if i can't do it I'll just post a link, I'm ereally cursed when it comes to informatic...

[Drunk Clown]

Can you guys see it? coz i can't... offff... if i can't do it I'll just post a link, I'm ereally cursed when it comes to informatic...
No, can't see it. You're using the wrong code.

https://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy255/Duguntz/RomeTW-BI2010-03-2011-54-43-20.jpg

this is what you want, no?

[Duguntz]

No, can't see it. You're using the wrong code.

https://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy255/Duguntz/RomeTW-BI2010-03-2011-54-43-20.jpg

this is what you want, no? Yes, it's exactly what I want! thanks! oh damn, what a mighty conqueror I make when a fellow must post my own pictures so i can see it... is there something lower than the emotion ''shame''?

[Duguntz]

No, can't see it. You're using the wrong code.

https://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy255/Duguntz/RomeTW-BI2010-03-2011-54-43-20.jpg

this is what you want, no?

Thanks a lot pal! yeah, that's what I wanted to show! i can't figure out still what I didn wrong. but the result is there, i owe you!

Hehe, not bad my General!!!

[Drunk Clown]

Thanks a lot pal! yeah, that's what I wanted to show! i can't figure out still what I didn wrong. but the result is there, i owe you!

Hehe, not bad my General!!!

You thought when Ibn-Khaldun said URL, that he meant the url of the site. But he meant the picture "URL" (poor choice of words)

Now, to prevent someone else posting your pic again, I think I'll explain:
On your photobucket site ( https://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy255/Duguntz/?action=view&current=RomeTW-BI2010-03-2011-54-43-20.jpg&newest=1 ) you can at about the mid-left of the screen "share this image". There are 4 codes, you'll need the IMG code. That's the one you need to post on a forum to share a pic!

[Duguntz]

You thought when Ibn-Khaldun said URL, that he meant the url of the site. But he meant the picture "URL" (poor choice of words)

Now, to prevent someone else posting your pic again, I think I'll explain:
On your photobucket site ( https://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy255/Duguntz/?action=view&current=RomeTW-BI2010-03-2011-54-43-20.jpg&newest=1 ) you can at about the mid-left of the screen "share this image". There are 4 codes, you'll need the IMG code. That's the one you need to post on a forum to share a pic!

Oooh, I get it! thanks a lot! here's a baloon for you! damn, can't find it... but take a balloon anyway! And now, to get back on the topic, thhatc picture is my early sweboz empire, with the general who made it possible!!!!

[Hannibal Khan the Great]

With Sweboz all you have to do is put all your FMs in one conquering stack and watch the chevrons multiply:beam:

[Macilrille]

But what is up with all those druids?


Just look at this code for example (you got to click "Reply with Qoute" to see the code):

Am I the only one getting slightly nauseous by the indications in this image? perhaps I am just one sick ****, but at least it appauls me...

[Hannibal Khan the Great]

Oh, I noticed it too, just didn't (and surprised nobody else did) comment on it. BTW, the pedobear's face looks just like that smiley in my last post:inquisitive:

[Duguntz]

Well, this picture is or very suggestive, or we're two sick bastard... honnestly, I'd prefer the picture to be suggestive

[Macilrille]

What is a pedobear?

/Me hopes it is something to protect children against molesters.

Probably something that should be explained in PM or visitor message, so this thread can get back on track.

[Ludens]

What is a pedobear?

/Me hopes it is something to protect children against molesters.

Quite the reverse, actually. That's the "joke". I apologize for having overlooked it yesterday.

Now let's get back to topic.

[Hannibal Khan the Great]

Thank you for removing that, Ludens.

[Drunk Clown]

Oh comeon everybody loves pedobear!

It was just a random picture I chose.

But on topic:

Is there a amount of regions you need before posting here? Cos almost everytime it's a "finished". If it were more empires in their beginning (not completely from the start) there could be suggestions where to go expand next to.

[Macilrille]

No worries, I for one do not think you have sinister motives- and I am still somewhat uncertain about what a pedobear is. Children and animals are amongst the few perversions I do not have. And no I do not need more explanation, both Hannibal and Ludens have said enough already!

Anyway.

Empire means empire I guess, but there have been posts with 6-8 pics in them of the minimap with progress.

[Duguntz]

well, the pic of my general shows in the minimap the progression of my empire, it quiet at the biginning (though today I added few provinces near roman border since those steel dressed barbaroi had the bad bad idea to anger me...

[Macilrille]

Did you ever explain what is up with those druids?

[Duguntz]

Well... they attacked me... with their last FM, one of my arimes, north of their last city, I didn't join the fight so draged their whole army out of the city, and on the turn after, leaving their last city without protection appart of a FM, my second army (waiting in ambush) sieged it and had the door open by my spy... so Y beated them almost without loosing a man! I am particulary proud that all the conquest of britain was done with the same armies, using pure germanic troops :) Now, the british island is guarded mostly by locals, as my core armies went due south, facing romans legions... I'll post pictures soon.

And for the Dark island, when I've a fM who've nothing to do, i send him there, and he really does get a bunch of nice trait! still, it's a looong way from my southern provinces!

[Macilrille]

That is not what I meant, your FM has two identical Druid anxillaries. That puzzles me a lot, never seen that before?

[Duguntz]

Oh yeah, sorry.. well, i remarked it also. i do not know how it happened, but hehe, if I take double benefit from it... why not!hmmm, he weas receiving the ''druidic'' training, in the dark island, and i took im out in the middle of his training (couple of turns after he conquered that particuilar city) maybe as I took him out in the midfdle of the training it affected something... i don't know, really

Anyway, with that general, many uncommon thing happened. I mean, how many time we see a general with 10 stars at 49 years old? in EB? and 10 influence and... so yeah, that one was a one of a kind

[Macilrille]

You can give German FMs druidic training? I never did. Just conquered and razed it, Viking style, then settled the island with a mixture of my own people and survivors of the locals under the general who took it, and client kings.

[Duguntz]

What I did also, appart that I didn't destroyed that dark island... probably the only marvel I didn't destroyed. the island is setteled with levies (that I roleplay as settelers that I sent) plus a mixt of type 3 and 4 gov. depending on the size of the cities... I've two of my own general wich in few turns gained the trait : very wealthy, by living in britain, the rest are client kings... merry puppets serving as peace keeper

[Macilrille]

I rarely destroy wonders, I think the guys back then were not so stupid as to anger Gods, and they could probably see the connection Zeus- Jupiter- (Teutatis ?)- Odin. Unlike us who either do not believe or believe that our own God or variation of a God will protect us and all others must be destroyed; to an Ancient, Gods were real, your own Gods, the Gods of your neighbour, spirits of wind, trees and brook, etc, etc.

[Duguntz]

I understand your ways. In my games, I destroyed their wonders and built a heavenly pillear in every city... in honor of Deiwoz. ASSIMILATION is the rule!!! Appart if : it's a heavenly pillar of their gods, i don't destroy it, because even germans warriors can be amazed by greatfulness, wonders, I destroy, because for example, a hero's tomb. their hero wasn't considered as heroic for my people, why the hell should keep it! and I build a temple on this emplacement... to comemorate my victory over those people. like a trophy, if you want!

[Macilrille]

Well... from at least Illerup (205 AD) forwards, even Scandinavian tribes seem to have known of Alexander and imitated commemorative medallions to him. Whether this was just dumb imitations of a neighbouring high culture or they consciously chose him because they knew of his exploits, we cannot say. But the Vikings, for example, definately knew of Theoderic (I think it is Theoderic), there is a Skald who mentions a Riders-statue in Italy of him in such terms as to be well-acquainted with him. The distance in time and place is sort of parallel, so I always assume that my Sweboz warriors know of legendary places and figures in neighbouring cultures. Think of it... you are a Roman trader at a Dugunthiz' court trying to arrange an exchange of gifts (trade) to get all that nice amber and furs, and survive; what stories would you tell these intimidating men whose glance you can hardly bear.

So I believe that the upper class of the German tribes were familiar with heroes and villains such as Alexander, Scipio Africanus and Hannibal even before we believe of contact, just as we know for certain that Ariovistus knew of Roman politics and political system "I am not so barbarian as to be unaware..." Ariovistus says. This is quite interesting as it is also one of the few instances that we get the Barbarians' self-perception and what he thinks of being labelled as barbarian and savage.
But this is my interpretation.

This is far from the original topic though.

[Unintended BM]

https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-03-2219-54-22-27.jpg

My Baktrian economic powerhouse. Just finished my last second level mine and now I make crazy money. Once that last AS territory gets taken, I'll probably be fighting lots of horse archers...

[Macilrille]

Yei, Baktria FTW. I like playing them :-)

[Duguntz]

wow, your economy kick ass!!!

[vartan]

wow, your economy kick ass!!!
10 double level mines? WOW. Look at Kophen.

[Unintended BM]

Alexandreia-Ariana doesn't have any mines, so I'm not making much money there, but all the others have level 2 mines. The cities you see in the picture are my entire "empire".

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Nice Bactrian Empire that.

An update to my makedonian empire.

The extent of the Αρχε Μακεδονια as of 160 BC:

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/BasileusNeikonNikator.jpg

Βασιλευς Νεικον Νικατορ, the greatest of all Makedonike Kings have at last subjugated the whole Iberian peninsula and secured it's valuable mines.
The Hellenes in the region have come under his protection, the finances are under control and the western front have been secured.

A major military victory.

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/HEROICVICTORY.jpg


https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/hansbror.jpg

The king's brother have subjugated the southern Gallic lands and restored the balance of power between the major Gallic confederacies.

The Royal family as of 160 BC:

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Royalffamily.jpg

Olympiades, the Kings son will come of age within a short period of time and have received the best training and education the Hellenic world has to offer. He is very interested in the stories of Alexandros conquest of the eastern lands and he has promised as soon as his age permits reclaim these lost lands and be the one who finally unites the Hellenic people.

As always comments are appreciated. :bow:

[lionhard]

I wuv macedonia :D nice empires :)

[Jebivjetar]

As always comments are appreciated. :bow:

Thoraiktai Aryraspidai for Macs? Did you mod this or am I missing something?
Btw awesome empire you have there, Arthur! :7

[anubis88]

Thoraiktai Aryraspidai for Macs? Did you mod this or am I missing something?
Btw awesome empire you have there, Arthur! :7

Of course he modded it.... The Thorakites also don't belong there

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

I wuv macedonia :D nice empires :)

Thanks! Be sure to post a pic of your ongoing campaign if possible, it doesn't have to be as enormous as mine to be posted here.


Thoraiktai Aryraspidai for Macs? Did you mod this or am I missing something?
Btw awesome empire you have there, Arthur! :7

Thank you my romankilling brother! And yes I've added Thorakitai Argyraspidai to the Maks. Tis quite simple.
It's all part of a roleplayed reform of mine (modelled slightly after the reform in MAA´s AAR) , so it's somewhat justified. :sweatdrop:

[plutoboyz]

https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-03-2219-54-22-27.jpg

My Baktrian economic powerhouse. Just finished my last second level mine and now I make crazy money. Once that last AS territory gets taken, I'll probably be fighting lots of horse archers...

wow, how did you do that?

[Drunk Clown]

wow, how you did did you do that?

By simply building mines.

[plutoboyz]

By simply building mines.

I never had enough money to build mines. btw, thanks for grammar correction.

[Unintended BM]

Well, I relied on a lot of Persian Archers, and I only had like two native phalanx. Also, it's a lot of luck too. If the AS gets kicked out too early, you have to fight a lot more, but if they stick around for a while like in my game, then the Parthians and Saka won't worry about you. Then you have time to build up your economy.

[plutoboyz]

Well, I relied on a lot of Persian Archers, and I only had like two native phalanx. Also, it's a lot of luck too. If the AS gets kicked out too early, you have to fight a lot more, but if they stick around for a while like in my game, then the Parthians and Saka won't worry about you. Then you have time to build up your economy.

Thanks.

[Mulceber]

Having played through several campaigns, I missed the Romani, and decided to go through their campaign again using more role-playing this time. I've tried to be fairly accurate in how they conquered things, although I'm a bit flexible about that and I'm trying to develop characters more. Here's my Empire in 188 BCE with my potential reformator/faction leader. Hope he survives to 172.

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/089/4/3/IMPERIVM_ROMANVM_188_BCE_by_mulceber.jpg

Oh and the map is a little bit inaccurate: it lists the Kingdom of Pergamum as being a part of the Imperium Romanum when really it is just our "ally" :clown: -M

[Nobo]

Having played through several campaigns, I missed the Romani, and decided to go through their campaign again using more role-playing this time. I've tried to be fairly accurate in how they conquered things, although I'm a bit flexible about that and I'm trying to develop characters more.

I've been trying to do that, but I usually get a little overwhelmed, once Roma is almost completely full of FMs. Do you just roleplay a few of them or do you have some intricate system of telling them apart?

[Marcus Darkstar]

I've been trying to do that, but I usually get a little overwhelmed, once Roma is almost completely full of FMs. Do you just roleplay a few of them or do you have some intricate system of telling them apart?

I dunno about him but I usually try to roleplay the general senate with empathesis on the Faction Leader ( aka Pincepet) though ya it can get confusing at times lol...

[Mulceber]

I've been trying to do that, but I usually get a little overwhelmed, once Roma is almost completely full of FMs. Do you just roleplay a few of them or do you have some intricate system of telling them apart?

Yeah, same here. I generally just focus on a few promising men and have the Republic expand in a realistic way. Juggling all those family members would be too much for my tastes. :juggle2: -M

[Marcus Darkstar]

Yeah, same here. I generally just focus on a few promising men and have the Republic expand in a realistic way. Juggling all those family members would be too much for my tastes. :juggle2: -M

I usually just play from the perspective of the Faction leader and his successors. I typically make him a conquering on the move general or the govenor of Roma (so hes near the rest of the senate and gives orders to his underlings-other FM's from there)

[Kival]

My new Campaign with Quart-Hadast, not the most actual map but I think about making my first AAR, so i'll just show the situation at 251 BC:


https://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9893/rometwalx20100329165544.th.png (https://img511.imageshack.us/i/rometwalx20100329165544.png/)

I'm currently at war with the Romans but my first Roman ("Punic") war will soon end (I should better say: has ended). What you can see here is the rest of the mercenary part of the army the Carthaginian senate has sent and which stopped the romans on sicilia.

[Fluvius Camillus]

You better be careful with those mercenaries.:clown:

~Fluvius

[Mulceber]

I usually just play from the perspective of the Faction leader and his successors. I typically make him a conquering on the move general or the govenor of Roma (so hes near the rest of the senate and gives orders to his underlings-other FM's from there)

Yeah, I always used to basically ignore my faction leader, but I'm starting to make use of him more - he tends to have better traits, and has higher chances of getting into elected office I find, so if I make one of the family members I'm role playing the faction leader, he's got a good shot at making it to the Consulship, and isn't that what it's really all about? :clown: eg. my reformator, as you may have noticed, is my faction leader, and he's now (as of 180 BCE) made it through the entire Cursus Honorum (apart from the Censorship), has 5 command stars and has just celebrated a Triumph. He's taken a certain Ivlivs Caesar under his wing. We'll see where that boy's career goes... -M

[SwissBarbar]

Pahlava 200 BC

https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/205/unbenanntla.png

At war with the Seleukids ever since
At war with the Saka Rauka since one or two decades

[anubis88]

Wow that annoys the hell out of me. Every time i play a faction, that shares a border with the AS, they became the Grey death. But when i'm playing a faction with no border, the Ptolies defeat them practically in 50 years

[SwissBarbar]

Well, the AS ARE the Grey Death in this game. The problem is: I am even deadlier ;-)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Tbh, Pink Death doesn't sound that scary to me.. :rolleyes:

[SwissBarbar]

Pha! This is a sacred colour! The first leader of our tribe once saw after a great steppe-dance party a Pink War Elefant , which is our holy animal ever since. (We also see them quite often, but we haven't yet figured out how to use them in battle).

[anubis88]

Once you get a hold on how to use the Parthian army, you're practically unstopable. When i Besieged Edessa, i had a half a stack, around 1000 men, only 1 unit + FM of Catas, the others were light horse archers. I defeated a Seleucid army of 6000 men, and broke their power indefinetly. Even once my HA ran out of ammo, i just moved them around, tiring the enemy till the Cata's approached, and slaughtered them.
An this was an ordinary AS army, which means lots and lots of phalanxes...

So yeah, the Pink death can be really scary:laugh4:

[SwissBarbar]

Yeah, you would not believe how many units of elite phalangitai have died without even killing one of my horsearchers ;-)

But I must say, also my foot-armies are quite fun to play, though they suffer from more dead. Just 20 minutes ago I successfully could defend the city of Charax, which my foot-army had captured. Its like this:

(Not all units in full strength)
1 FM
4 x Parthian Spearman
4 x Hoplitai Haploi
3 x Eastern Slingers
3 x Persian Archers
2 x Mardian Archers

And they were besieged by the Seleukids (Not all units in full strenght)

3 x FM
1 x Heavy Cav
2 x Parthian Spearman
2 x Elite Phalangitai (full strength)
5 x Other Phalangitai
and other light units and thureophoroi


All in all: I had around 2500 and they around 2300 IIRC

They had: 2 Siege Towers, 2 Rams, 2 Tunnel-Things to make the walls collaps.


It was great! My Archers could light one tower, the two rams (who went for 2 different gates) were lit fast to. Through the second tower, the enemy could engage the walls, and at the same time, they tried to undermine another part of the wall. The wall was down for 61%, when my archers managed to lit the Tunnel-entrance on fire, the wall stood, the guys under ground died. The second Tunnel-thing was on fire before they could go in. Just when the parthian spearmen of the enemy and some peltasts fought my men on the wall, the enemy sent klerouchoi phalangitai up the tower.. but with the last arrows also this tower was lit on fire and the phalangitai died under the collapsing tower. With all their siege equipment gone, the Seleukids waited, if their units, who were already on the wall, could do anything - they couldn't - and then had to leave.

Stats (in my opinion quite realistic battle stats for once)

Close Victory
Pahlava: Men 2500 - Lost 450 - Remaining around 2200 (my FM had a chirurgeon and some great traits ;-) )
Seleukids: Men 2300 - Lost 650 - Remaining around 1650

[Marcus Darkstar]

Yeah, you would not believe how many units of elite phalangitai have died without even killing one of my horsearchers ;-)

Well yes even in Vanilla RTW Horse Archers were the foremost killing machines in the right hands.

It certainly killed many famous military armies in ancient history like the Alexandrian army sent to Scythian territories or Crassus's Roman army.

[Mulceber]

In my last post, I showed off my potential Reformator. He had 3 stars, something like 10 influence, was S/C/V, a Popularis and had won a consulship. So I thought I was good for the reforms. Oh little did I know the scares that I was in for. While my general was on campaign with his Military Tribune, M. Iulius Caesar, he was awarded a Triumph by the Senate. I was briefly double-checking his stats to make sure he fit the requirement for a reformator...only to discover that his popularis trait had disappeared. With something like 10 years to go before the reforms were due, I resolved to take him off the campaign and rush him to a city with a temple to Ceres, hoping he'd get the trait back (and wondering how the heck he lost it in the first place). On the way I decided to take him to Rome and let him have his Triumph. Once that was done, I looked at his traits again, only to find that, lo and behold, he was now a Popularis again :dizzy2: I guess from a Role-playing perspective he was trying to keep on the Senate's good side until he'd gotten his Triumph. So with that out of the way, I was feeling pretty confident that it was now smooth sailing. Oh how I was mistaken....

A few years later, with only a couple years left until the reforms, I checked Lucullus' traits. He was still a popularis...but now he had lost the Consular trait. :furious3: As you can imagine, I panicked, since I REALLY wanted to see those beautiful Marian troops pouring out of Italy. And furthermore, how on earth does someone lose the Consular trait? I was certain that he'd had it - in fact, if you look at my first picture of him, you can see that he has the consular trait. So ultimately I decided, to keep going and hope that EB remembered that he had been a consul, even if the trait wasn't appearing on his scroll. If it didn't remember, I decided, I would just go into the EB data folder and delete the consular requirement from the Marian reforms.

Well, 172 came. Come Spring I still didn't have any new troops. But looking at the faction scroll I noticed something else:
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/090/3/3/in_progress_by_mulceber.jpg
P. Licinius Lucullus had won his second consulship. I think that's the only character I've ever heard of winning multiple consulships. But hey, at least he's following the pattern set up by C. Marius. I ended the turn and when summer came around, I got a message from the advisor saying new troops were available. Here are the new legions:

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/090/c/7/after_the_reforms_by_mulceber.jpg

BTW, sorry if this is becoming a bit AAR-like, but the Marian Reforms are an exciting time and I wanted to share it with you guys.

PS. As you may have noticed from these maps, Roman holdings in Asia (and they are Roman, now that the King of Pergamum died and "generously" left his kingdom to the SPQR) have shrunk massively in my war with the Pontic kingdom - up until now, the two stacks of the Roman Legions have been occupied dealing with the Karthadastim, and so I've had to fight in the east using local troops (mainly Hoplitai and Hoplitai Haploi). But now that the Lucullian Reforms have been passed my first priority will be to send the legions east to deal with the Pontic King. The first Mithradatic War is about to begin! -M

[WinsingtonIII]

But now that the Lucullian Reforms have been passed my first priority will be to send the legions east to deal with the Pontic King. The first Mithradatic War is about to begin!

That's pretty awesome that you actually get to fight the Mithadatic Wars against a strong Pontos. That's not something that happens often.

[Alexokrat]

Mulceber are the Seleucids in Kyrene? How did they get there?

[WinsingtonIII]

Mulceber are the Seleucids in Kyrene? How did they get there?

It most likely revolted to them, the Seleucids are listed as Kyrene's ownership faction I believe, so whenever they revolt from another faction in the game they end up under Seleucid control.

[Mulceber]

I think Winsington's right - it isn't the first time I've heard of Kyrene being an island of Seleucid power. Although by this point in the game, they've taken Alexandreia, Thebes and Paraitonion, so it doesn't look quite so unusual to see Kyrene in their power as well.

Yeah, I'm realy excited about how this is really starting to mirror history so nicely. Not perfectly, but somewhat closely. I've sent Lucullus (as well as his rival, the Optimas M. Cornelius Scipio Africanus Censor) to Asia to retake the province. They've arrived just in time as well - the last Roman cities in Asia, Mytilene and Halikarnassos were about to fall. -M

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

BTW, sorry if this is becoming a bit AAR-like, but the Marian Reforms are an exciting time and I wanted to share it with you guys. -M

That's hardly a problem, it's way more interesting when people go more in deapth in their empire-presentation IMO. :book: :thumbsup:

[Unintended BM]

My current Aedui game.

https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-04-0220-54-30-70.jpg
After I conquered the Arveni. The Aedui really do have an easier starting. It's very easy fighting other gauls anyway.


https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-04-0314-50-37-13.jpg
My current empire. I didn't feel like fighting a bunch of elite allied infantry spam, so I'm just blitzing Rome. They had taken Segesta and Bononia anyway, and they were lining up troops on my border. When Segesta rebelled, I took it and moved in for Arretium, then they attacked me before I could get there, and I beat the crap out of them. I just got the first reforms a few turns ago. As you can see, I'm starving out Ariminum and Arpi. Carthage randomly sent up a unit of elephants to stand next to my main army. They're still allied with Rome, so they'll probably attack me if they decide to bring up some more troops from Sicily any time soon.

[Fluvius Camillus]

@Unintended BM

Can you beat this?

https://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt22/Fluvius_Camillus/Celticum.jpg?t=1270384437

You have three more years to match this, I first took quite some rebel settlements, then killed the Aedui. After that I took some more rebel settlements and fougth the Sweboz, after that I pwned the Romani.

~Fluvius

[Mulceber]

Ouch Fluvius, that's one impressive Empire.

Anyway, in my Romani game, P. Lucullus and M. Scipio Africanus landed their legions in Asia and set to work retaking the province. Given the enmity between the two, it was probably a good thing that they chose to fight separately. Lucullus, after relieving the besieged city of Halicarnassus, surrounded Sardis and dug in, while Africanus began the siege of Pergamum. Each repulsed many relief attempts by the Pontic kings and their mercenary armies, but Lucullus was the first to retake a city in Asia. Having beset the city for a long time, his scouts reported the approach of a massive Pontic relief force, one which his troops would not likely be able to repulse. He thus resolved to take Sardis by storm, and did so with relatively few casualties. Africanus, whose troops had endured less hardship, maintained his siege. Finally, in the winter of 168, the Pontici sallied forth and were swiftly routed by the general's well-drilled men. As they sacked the city, Africanus received yet more good news:

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/094/6/3/Lucullus_dead_by_mulceber.jpg

Publius Licinius Lucullus, Triumphator and Thrice-Consul, had died in his sleep in Sardis. Here was a man who had brought great change to the Res Publica. He had achieved countless great victories and reformed the way Roman men fight. Now his death brings grief to the plebs in Rome, while many of the Patricians quietly mutter that the city is better off without him. -M

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Nice empire you have there! :2thumbsup:

[Fluvius Camillus]

Nice narrative, nice empire.

However, it looks like the Res Publica did no defeat Antiochos III Megas, or stop Antiochos IV Epiphanes with a circle.~D

Good luck with the Mithridatic wars and the enourmous monster that lies behind it!

~Fluvius

[Unintended BM]

Fluvius, I took all of Italy and Sicily by 254, but I didn't take as much of Gaul as you did. Here's a bunch of pictures:

https://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-04-0319-15-42-72.jpghttps://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-04-0412-21-29-88.jpghttps://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-04-0412-21-33-01.jpghttps://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-04-0412-21-37-93.jpghttps://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-04-0412-21-40-79.jpghttps://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Indoril_Jarsa/EB%20pics/RomeTW-ALX2010-04-0413-44-52-94.jpg

First one is when I destroyed the Romans, and after that, it's just a bunch of areas around my empire. The Sweboz attacked me right after I finished all of my Time of Soldiers MICs, so now I'm beating the crap out of them with my overpowered army. I already fought one battle, and having looked over some of their settlements, I don't think it'll be too hard to sweep right through Germania. After that, I'll probably take out Iberia, and I'll save Britain for last.

[plutoboyz]

Here, my Saka. after kicking Pahlava. next would be Seleukia then Babylon.
https://img547.imageshack.us/img547/2748/30099981.jpg

[The Celtic Viking]

Nice one there, Pluto.

Here's my Arverni campaign in 227 BCE:

http://img532.yfrog.com/img532/3254/arvernicampaign.jpg

That's my Verrix and his army. For those who don't know their way around the traits, he's a pretty heavy drinker. Despite that, he's been keeping the Sweboz at bay, while my other armies deal with the Romans, Aedui and Getai. That big, eastern part came up at first because I accepted (as usual) the Epeirote offer and took Vindobona and Ak-Ink. After that, the Getai became such a problem that I eventually had to go after them, and now they've been pushed to the shores of the Black Sea. It was very close that they managed to grind my eastern campaign to a disaster, though; because of an ever present lack of manpower, reinforcements were hard to come by, seeing as I wasn't rich enough to safely negotiate a four front war. There came a point where I had to fight two armies that would've been impossible for me against anything but the AI, and I managed to get a Phyrric victory. If they had had another army there at that time, my army would've been lost, and I would've likely have lost most of my eastern holdings. However, I was given breathing room and could thus take Buridava (even if that was a close victory when they tried to relieve it). My army there is based on mostly locals and mercenaries now.

This, of course, doesn't mean that my eastern lands are safe. Patavium is under constant siege from mostly the Romani but at times also the Aedui. The garrison there are the remnants of my once so glorious royal army that started the eastern affair that is now reduced to practical insignificance, augmented by local levies and a few Illyrian reinforcements. The amount of Samnites in the Roman army is extreme.

In Gaul I've pretty much just kicked out the Aedui and "liberated" the Belgae settlements from Sweboz rule. The Aedui are not quite out of the game yet, though, which tends to happen IME when they lose all but one settlement. Somehow they've managed to scrape up enough dough to afford a lot of units of Gaesatae. In fact, my south-western army got obliterated at the very same turn that the picture was taken, after having successfully ambushed an Aedui magistrate and a unit of said naked quality. After that it, unfortunately, found itself without movement points, and against a numerically superior army with several more of those fabulous men, which ultimately after a long and bloody fight ended in a heroic death and the disintegration of the remainder of that army.

A new army is being raised, though, and I'm hoping that it will finally be able to kick the Aedui out of the game, so that it can link up with the Patavium garrison and secure the Roman front once and for all.

[plutoboyz]

Its actually not really nice. I might be good at conquest but my empire is horrible. so vulnerable, poorly garrisoned and unrest. the money as you see there, its not from city income. looting is my only hope.

[Unintended BM]

Nice Arverni game. What year do you get the Eperios mission? On my Aedui game, I'm around the same year as you and I haven't gotten anything.

[The Celtic Viking]

Are you sure you didn't just miss it/forget about it? You should get it pretty early on, through the advisor.


Its actually not really nice. I might be good at conquest but my empire is horrible. so vulnerable, poorly garrisoned and unrest. the money as you see there, its not from city income. looting is my only hope.

Sure, but that's pretty much what you can expect when playing as a nomad, isn't it? It's kind of the price you pay to completely own the battlefield.

[Unintended BM]

I never got it. Must've missed it. Doesn't matter, I'll take on the Getai soon enough anyway.

[Mulceber]

A few years later, Africanus followed his great rival to the afterlife, and both left their armies in the care of their lieutenants, Sp. Octauius and Mn. Iulius Caesar respectively. The Roman people, in varying degrees, mourned the death of a great patriot.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/095/1/3/Africanus_dead_by_mulceber.jpg

These deaths in the field presented their own problems, however. Caesar, a respected Optimas, had already served as Praetor and thus was eligible to hold Imperium over Rome's armies, but although Octauius was Caesar's equal in both age and skill, he had yet to rise above the rank of military tribune. He had great influence, both with the men and other officers, however, and so the prospect of any other man succeeding Africanus as Dux was swiftly cast aside and the men universally recognized him as their leader. The Senate might not like it, but they were back in Rome and the only one in position to do anything about it was Mn. Caesar, who had no desire to create tension with his new colleague. Thus the war progressed and many Pontic generals were killed. Mn. Caesar even earned the Spolia Opima for personally slaying an enemy commander near Ankyra.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/095/3/8/M__Iulius_Caesar_is_a_badass_by_mulceber.jpg

But while Caesar and Octauius continued to press the enemy, the excursion has taken them further and further into Asia and resupplying has become a great difficulty for the commanders. The war with Pontus has stretched them to the limit, as the Pontic King forces them to subdue and re-subdue all of Asia. This is not the only conflict brewing for the Res Publica however: Tb. Aemilius Paullus, the Proconsul of Africa Vetus has marched east into Egypt, intending to "support" the ruling Ptolemaic dynasty against the Seleukids. After besieging Kyrene for many months, Paraitonion and Alexandreia fell in rather short order, and now the Proconsul and his legions have fallen upon Memphis.

While these two conflicts are large, the Empire is otherwise experiencing a period of relative harmony. Gauls, as usual, frequently stage raids into Gallia Transalpina, but Rome herself suffers no civil strife, although tensions between the populares and the optimates still brew below the surface.

[Unintended BM]

Cool Roman game. That's an odd place for Hayasdan on the map.

[Mulceber]

Yeah, I'm hoping to restore their ancestral lands to them later and set them up as a border region to protect eastern Asia Minor from Seleukid attacks. -M

[Andy1984]

Its actually not really nice. I might be good at conquest but my empire is horrible. so vulnerable, poorly garrisoned and unrest. the money as you see there, its not from city income. looting is my only hope.
I know the feeling. In my current Saka game, I'm dying around 230BC as I have only six settlements but Bactria, Pahlava and a giant AS are constantly wearing me down. I may even have to loot and plunder migrate my way through AS-territory in order to survive! At least your empire seems to be more or less save. I have at the moment two settlements (out of six) that aren't dangerously threatened and could fall within two or three turns. None of these two have the infrastructure yet to train Saka horse or foot archers. My economy is far more broke than yours. I make 2000 mnai/turn without building anything and I've already destroyed all Greek buildings in my 'kingdom' as well as in those regions that I once owned.

On the other hand, it's one of the most bitter strifes I've ever been pulled down in.

More complete description of the situation in said campaign, look here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?101742-1.x-AI-Faction-Progression-Thread&p=2463986&viewfull=1#post2463986).

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

An update to my Makedonian empire:

The extent of the ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ as of 147 BC:

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/ARCHEMAKEDONIA-1.jpg


https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/folkrglad.jpg

Following the return of the Basileus to the capital the people were ecstatic, for they have waited many years for their hero to return from his bold campaigning in the west. He just like his father had the "man of the people" aura about him and the Charisma needed to influence people around him. By the historians of the Arche he is regarded as the greatest military leader Makedonia have ever had, possibly to be rivalled by his son.


https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/OlympiadesArgeades.jpg

After the shameless attack on the Arche's Egyptian holdings by the Noubaoi king, it befell the Royal heir ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔΗΣ to deal with the problem.
After defeating them in battle he set up a number of client kings in the area who hopefully were to be more loyal.
Currently he is studying in Alexandreai and readying his army for another campaign, this time into Persia and beyond.

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/problem2-1.jpg

In the East the Parthian Persian Empire are sending their armies against the border. The reason to this is that both East-Hellenic kingdoms are given financial support from the Arche Makedonia which of course is not something the King of Kings Baghâbigh find very amusing..

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/problem-1.jpg

For the Hellenes in the East things were not going too well. With collapse threatening both Hellenic kingdoms due to the conquests of nearly all their lands by the Persians the situation is looking dire indeed.

The Persian empire is the only nation at this time who can rival the might of the Makedonian Arche and is a serious threat to our plan.

Comments are appreciated. :bow:

[Mulceber]

Impressive job taking the map, and some very nice narrative.:2thumbsup: -M

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Impressive job taking the map, and some very nice narrative.:2thumbsup: -M

Thanks! :2thumbsup:

[[cF]HanBaal]

hey all

started an Hai campaign a week ago and while the geographical position can be very entertaining and difficult since they are surrounded by a lot of factions and diplomacy plays a big part (now even Epeiros, KH and Makedonia joined the party in western asia minor) their factional units are boring! Their initial units can be quite fun with the low level Caucasian spearmen and archers having nice stats (combat bonus in hoods for the spearmen and +6 attack for the archers' missiles, a slight advantage over their counterparts). But their mid-high units come to me as FEW and USELESS! They only have the armeniam spearmen/medium infantry (bit expensive and not worthy statswise imo), the horse archers (worse than other factions) and the armoured horse archers and cataphracts (weaker and more expensive than their counterparts). The armoured horse archers were the biggest frustation! Initially i thought they were their 'factional special unit' only to find later in exp_descr_units they loose in every respect to their counterparts:

-recruitment cost (~4180 vs ~3900 for the parthians)
-upkeep (~1040 vs ~900 for the parthians)
-missile attack (5 vs 6)
-missile range (187 vs 190.4)

The economic disadvantages hurts even more in a 'poor' faction to begin with. It evens makes me less enthusiastic to build the final tier and try their noble infantry (their stats are only ok and they are few) and cataphracts (again weaker and more expensive).

So basically i decided to keep building my armies with Hellenic native phalanxes (large, strong and cheap unit with axes to help); mardian archers (decent); scythian riders (another cool unit with composite bows and a nice charging spear - again better than the armenian ones) and the FMs as heavy cavalry with a couple armoured horse archers just to appease my frustation of all that buildup waiting/investing (being the ONLY native units!).

Maybe a cheap and effective axe/hillmen unique to them would be nice to complement their unit roster since they come from a mountain area? Or there wasn't one historically?
Somehow i feel this faction is lacking something which is bad since they have one of the most if not the most interesting starting position.

here's a pic of my current campaign:
https://img65.imageshack.us/img65/3518/haicampaign.jpg

was playing really slow and trying to use diplomacy to its best but even this is frustating in the AI. My long lasting allies Pontos were hammered in the west by KH, Mak and Epeiros, in the south by AS and when they only had one city Sinope.....they decide to attack me. Dumb AI... or maybe not since i had just taken Amaseia from AS and Amaseia was their initial capital. I dunno seems stupid anyway to attack your only ally left. So i'm moving in west next and declare war on the weaker Makedons, then KH and continue to fight AS for Asia Minor and Babylonia. But to be honest i'm more inclined to abandon this campaign due to the boring unit roster and start one with Pontos which have an also great starting position and a much more interesting unit roster.

cumps

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Nice empire HaanBaal! About the units, I believe triggering the Persian empire reform will get you some more/better troops.

[Mulceber]

The Pontic War continued, with Sp. Octauius and Mn. Caesar fighting the Eastern King across Asia and into the Caucasus Mountains. Octauius hoped that the glory he accrued on campaign would cause the Senate to forget any charges of illegal warfare they might level against him for commanding an Army of the Res Publica sine imperio. Such was not the case however, as defying the Senate combined with his populist politics and made most of the Senate bitterly resent him. Finally the war reached its climax, when Caesar was attacked as he besieged Armauir. At this point his army was a skeleton of its former self. Were they raw recruits they would certainly have fallen. Thankfully, every man of them had been toughened by the long war and after a struggle they repulsed the attack and took the city. Now Pontus was effectively cut in half, with the western portion in Cilicia and the Eastern portion in the Northern Caucasus. Within a few weeks, Octauius had driven the Pontici from Colchis as well, and in the weakened state of the Pontic Kingdom, the two generals were able to resupply and retrain their men. At this point, the two agreed that the Pontici were weakened enough to no longer require eight legions. They advised the Senate as such, and the Senate, assuming that Octauius would soon be returning to them, agreed. However Octauius had no desire to return and suffer a potential prosecution. He entreated Caesar to go back in his stead and let him take over the war. Caesar, for his part, desired a Consulship. He also knew that his brother, Decimus, was running for the Aedileship and could use the support of a war hero in his campaign. Thus the chance to return was a perfect opportunity for him, and the two agreed that Octauius would remain on campaign against Pontus with his four legions, while Caesar would return to Rome. This was only a temporary solution, however, as the war could only continue for so long, and if, when it ended, Octauius had not reconciled the Senate to his command, he would have to either return to a prosecution in Rome or remain overseas in a self-imposed exile. That was assuming he actually agreed to give up his legions, however...

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/097/2/e/Paullus_dies_by_mulceber.jpg

It was around this time that the Proconsul, Tb. Aemilius Paullus died. The war in Egypt had been surprisingly brief. After taking Alexandreia and Memphis from the Seleucids, Paullus sensibly realized that it was unwise to put himself geographically in between the warring Hellenistic Kingdoms. Thus he gave the two cities back to the Ptolemies, although he kept Kyrene and Paraitonion for the Senate and the Roman People. For his (admittedly-aborted) increase of the Res Publica, he was awarded a Triumph, and after celebrating in Rome, he returned to Libya to guard the Republic's holdings for the rest of his life. His death was mourned, although many of the Senators privately saw the vacuum created by his death as an opportunity for themselves. Not the least of these was D. Iulius Caesar, the brother of the famed Pontic War general. Seeing a slow early career - he only achieved the office of Quaestor in his mid 30's - Caesar's inspired rhetorical skills, efficient administrative talent and modest military experience from putting down slave revolts made him one of the most influential men, both in the Senate and with the Plebs. Within six years, he had been elected Praetor, although charges of massive electoral bribery were leveled against him several times along the way. In the early months of his Praetorship, news reached Rome: Sp. Octauius had killed King Apsarius of Pontus. The back of the Pontic Kingdom was broken, though there were still several cities that needed to be taken, and the general could expect to be occupied for another couple of years, at best. Time was running out.

D. Caesar observed Octauius' fading political prospects from a distance, but he had his sights set on different issues. The previous Pontifex Maximus, Quintus Caecilius Metellus, had died and the vacant position was an excellent way to advance Caesar's influence. An immediate election was held, into which the ex-Praetor poured countless resources. As he left for The Field of Mars on election day, Caesar quipped to his wife that he would return victorious, or not at all. "You'd divorce me over that?" She asked, blinking. :clown:

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/097/c/5/Caesar_is_PM_by_mulceber.jpg

On the down side though, the expenses and time devoted to achieving the prestigious priesthood prevented Caesar from mounting a serious campaign for the Consulship, and he abandoned the campaign for the 610th consulship in the city's history. His rivals offered thanks to the gods. But Caesar was not to be put off forever, and two years later he celebrated a victory in the Consular elections, along with the moderate C. Cornelius Scipio. The year of Scipio and Caesar would not be without its troubles. Byzantium saw some minor riots, but this was just the beginning:

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/097/7/e/pontic_war_2_by_mulceber.jpg
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/097/6/7/pontic_war_3_by_mulceber.jpg

In summer of that year the last of the Pontic cities, Tarsus, fell to Sp. Octauius. The Roman world held its breath for several weeks, wondering what the illegal warrior would do, now that he had no enemies left to conquer. Finally, Octauius backed down. Leaving his legions with the local pro-praetor to guard the province, he traveled to Lesbos in self-imposed exile. Caesar and Scipio breathed sighs of relief. There were other successes this year as well: the two consuls worked well together, with the populist Caesar bringing fresh ideas to the office while Scipio advocated for caution. During the year, new corn laws were passed and construction of the Amphitheatrum Cornelium, Rome's first permanent Amphitheater, began in earnest. Late in the year, the provinces awarded to the Consuls were announced. Scipio was given Libya, while Caesar...

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/097/0/e/Caesar__s_province_by_mulceber.jpg

Yes, as I'm sure you can tell, I'm trying to have this follow the storyline of the Late Republic (right down to giving Gaul to a Caesar) pretty closely, although I'm giving myself some leeway for changes and some different political situations. I'm too much of a fan of Caesar to leave him out of this, so while I bring him in, I'm going to try to have the civil war work differently. This whole thing has been really fun, role-playing the various generals and writing down what happens for you guys. Hope you like it. -M

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Nice storytelling Mulceber! :2thumbsup:
You should make an AAR or something.

An update on the ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ as of 144 BC and the situation on the Eastern front:

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/nykung.jpg

When the Persians invaded the Arche's eastern holdings ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ swiftly defeated the bulk of the invasion force as well as conquered the Persian homelands and western holdings. He also incorporated the Seleucid holdings into the Arche, even though their leaders were reluctant to submit. When he and his army entered Persepolis he gave order that no plundering was to made in the old Persian capital and that the Tomb of Kyros was not to be defiled. Many officers in the army thought this behaviour to be utmost nonsense, but this sign of respect completely won over the Persian people and ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ was hailed as their new Shahanshah, and Baghâbigh and his followers being branded outcasts by their judges. The Persian people never were too found of their Parthian masters as they had treated them as little more than slaves and were forced to fight in the army as infantry cannon fodder, this too worked for the Makedonians benefit who were being hailed as saviours by the populace.

The following day a messanger from ΠΕΛΛΑ arrived in Persepolis. He informed ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ that his father had quietly past away in his sleep and that he was now the ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ.
ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ had been the one who finally brought an end to Kart-Hadast, conquered Iberia and secured the western border. He had also started a major number of building projects around the Arche, with excellent road systems and aqueducts surpassing even the Rhômaio in it's perfection. Hellenic culture flourished under his rule and Athenai became a centre of learning and philosophy again and many great plays were set up. He was truly a great leader one who were to be missed by all in the ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ.

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/ohno.jpg

Even though the Persian homelands were now in the hands of the Makedones, the war continued, for the Parthians would not give up so lightly and so this war of conquest had to continue.

This is the plan: ΣΟΣΙΒΙΟΣ ΦΥΛΛΙΟΣ will guard Iran while ΑΥΛΟΣ ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΕΥΣ make sure to keep the Parni horsemen away from the northern holdings. (extremely complex plan I know :laugh4:)

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/sydligarmeSosibiosPhyllios.jpg

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/nordligarmAulosThessalonikeus.jpg

While they do that ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ will conquer the southern territories which currently only have lightly armed and few troops as garrison.

Some pictures over the most important victories in the war so far:

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/segerverseleukos.jpg

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/segerverperserna.jpg

And yeah comments are appreciated. :bow:

[Mulceber]

I'd like to do an AAR, but I fear I wouldn't write in it enough to justify creating one - that's why I like this thread so much. We can all write at our own pace with no pressure and share our conquests with each other. :2thumbsup: If I haven't said it before, thanks for creating this thread, Arthur!

Nice expansion against the Parthians - I especially like the choice to render the names in Ancient Greek (although I just thought I should point out though that Olympiades ) - it adds a great deal of character to the work. And encourages people to learn Ancient Greek! :idea2: Although I'm somewhat curious as to some of the spelling - I would think that Olympiades would end in ης, rather than εσ, and the ph in phyllios seems to have been rendered as π- instead of just φ. Is this an alternative Macedonian dialect or something?:dizzy2: -M

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

I'd like to do an AAR, but I fear I wouldn't write in it enough to justify creating one - that's why I like this thread so much. We can all write at our own pace with no pressure and share our conquests with each other. :2thumbsup: If I haven't said it before, thanks for creating this thread, Arthur!


You're welcome! :2thumbsup: I did think of making an AAR of this campaign but it's so similar to MAA AAR so it would just end up as a copy of his masterpiece. And yeah making updates to an AAR all the time can feel quite stressful. It's interesting to note how this thread has evolved from a simple "post a picture of how large your empire is" thread to a "Role-playing semi-AAR kind of thread" which of course is a very positive thing.


Nice expansion against the Parthians - I especially like the choice to render the names in Ancient Greek (although I just thought I should point out though that Olympiades ) - it adds a great deal of character to the work. And encourages people to learn Ancient Greek! :idea2: Although I'm somewhat curious as to some of the spelling - I would think that Olympiades would end in ης, rather than εσ, and the ph in phyllios seems to have been rendered as π- instead of just φ. Is this an alternative Macedonian dialect or something?:dizzy2: -M

I used this site (http://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/greek_ancient.htm) to get the ancient greek font. Either it's just some glitch at the site or maybe that variant of ancient greek I used was Attic or Ionic. (my knowledge on ancient greek is fairly limited :shame:)

Thanks for the correction though. :bow:

[Mulceber]

Ah ok, I think the site just got confused because of the differences between the ancient greek and the latin alphabet (eg. ancient Greek has multiple letters that become "e" in the latin script, also, the letter s is made differently if it's in the body of the word or at the end).

Yeah, I think this thread is a great tool - it's almost like it's for amature AAR writers - people who don't want the pressure of having to write regularly, but who like reporting the history of their empires every once in a while. -M

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Ah ok, I think the site just got confused because of the differences between the ancient greek and the latin alphabet (eg. ancient Greek has multiple letters that become "e" in the latin script, also, the letter s is made differently if it's in the body of the word or at the end).

Good to know, thanks again.


Yeah, I think this thread is a great tool - it's almost like it's for amature AAR writers - people who don't want the pressure of having to write regularly, but who like reporting the history of their empires every once in a while. -M

I think I'll add a note about this in the OP.

[Noble Wrath]

Hello comrade Arthur! Being a Greek I might be of help with the translations to the ancient greek alphabet. However, keep in mind that I'm not an expert on such things.

Well, Olympiades Argeades would be written: ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔΗΣ ΑΡΓΕΑΔΗΣ (Mulceber was right). I use capital letters since small letters were introduced quite later in the greek and latin alphabets. Neikon Nikator would become ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ (with Ω instead of O). Thessalonikeus would be ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΕΥΣ (with Θ instead of T).

I also think that Arche Makedonia (modelled after the Arche Seleukeia) should be altered. Because Seleukeia can be a noun (the name of the city) but initially it was an adjective: it means "of Seleukos" or rather "Seleukeian". Therefore, since Makedonia is strictly a noun, I'd suggest Arche Makedonia to be named Arche Makedonias (of Makedonia- genitive form) or Arche Makedonike (Makedonian - adjective). In the greek alphabet it would then become ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑΣ or ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ. I believe hellenistic kingdoms were not named after the ethnicities of the inhabitants, so we should stay clear of the name Arche Makedonon (meaning Dominion of the Makedonians).

Please note that I'm not trying to be a smartass (after all you are the one creating this quasi-AAR, I'm just a viewer), it's just that I'd like to contribute somehow.
Finally the above are all forms in the Attic dialect of ancient Greek. I'm not sure about the Macedonian dialect though I suspect it wouldn't be different and in any case in EB's timeframe Attic had become the norm.

[Jebivjetar]

Nice empires you have there guys. It's not a pleasant thing for me to see Carthage destroyed :disappointed: , but nice empires anyway.

[Mulceber]

I bow to your greater wisdom, Noble Wrath - I'm still in the process of learning Greek and while I'm doing pretty well, I'm far from an expert. -M

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Hello comrade Arthur! Being a Greek I might be of help with the translations to the ancient greek alphabet. However, keep in mind that I'm not an expert on such things.

Well, Olympiades Argeades would be written: ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔΗΣ ΑΡΓΕΑΔΗΣ (Mulceber was right). I use capital letters since small letters were introduced quite later in the greek and latin alphabets. Neikon Nikator would become ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ (with Ω instead of O). Thessalonikeus would be ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΕΥΣ (with Θ instead of T).

I also think that Arche Makedonia (modelled after the Arche Seleukeia) should be altered. Because Seleukeia can be a noun (the name of the city) but initially it was an adjective: it means "of Seleukos" or rather "Seleukeian". Therefore, since Makedonia is strictly a noun, I'd suggest Arche Makedonia to be named Arche Makedonias (of Makedonia- genitive form) or Arche Makedonike (Makedonian - adjective). In the greek alphabet it would then become ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑΣ or ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ. I believe hellenistic kingdoms were not named after the ethnicities of the inhabitants, so we should stay clear of the name Arche Makedonon (meaning Dominion of the Makedonians).

Thank you for confirming what Mulceber said. And I did think of using capital letters for the names because of the reason you brought up (small letter not being in the alphabet of greek at the time) it was more of aesthetic reasons I kept the smaller letters (no capslock fury if you know what I mean) I might change those things later to make it more correct.

BTW I have a question: Are there any differences between the modern greek alphabet (except for the small letters of course) and the one used in EB's time frame?



Please note that I'm not trying to be a smartass (after all you are the one creating this quasi-AAR, I'm just a viewer), it's just that I'd like to contribute somehow.

Don't worry, I appreciate your input. :)


Finally the above are all forms in the Attic dialect of ancient Greek. I'm not sure about the Macedonian dialect though I suspect it wouldn't be different and in any case in EB's timeframe Attic had become the norm.

Didn't they use Koine greek in EB's time frame though? Not that it might be such a big difference between the two. If I remember correctly Koine greek is a simplified version of Attic greek as Koine translate to "Common" (as in common greek) in English, now I'm not sure about any of this or maybe Koine was only used as spoken language.


Nice empires you have there guys. It's not a pleasant thing for me to see Carthage destroyed :disappointed: , but nice empires anyway.

Hopefully this shall cheer you up me friend.


Here is my Kart-Hadastim empire in 192 BC.

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Romaconquered-2-1.jpg

As you can see I have just conquered the Barbaroi and put an end to their empire.


Here is the Vanquisher of Roma aptly named Hannibal ( he is probably one of the best generals I've ever had)

https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/KingoftheBritons/Hannibal2-3.jpg

Another posted by that wacky HaanBaal:


HanBaal;2444753']https://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9461/3karthadast242bc.png

~:wacko:


And if you have one of Kart-Hadast be sure to post it. :wink: