View Full Version : New Historical Battles pack realesed
this pack includes 17 historical battles, 3 that where included in previous versions of EB but were removed by v1.2 (one of these three I edited for historical accuracy), 3 battles that where ported from vanilla and were heavily edited for historical accuracy, and the rest are brand new HB that I've created myself.
Full list:
100 BC (approx) - Battle on the Ebhernis River
255 BC - Battle of Tunis
058 BC - Battle of Bibracte
052 BC - Battle of Gergovia
016 CE - Battle of Idistaviso
202 BC - Battle of Zama
208 BC - Battle of Baecula
047 BC - Battle of Nile
216 BC - Battle of Cannae
069 BC - Battle of Tigranocerta
206 BC - Battle of Ilipa
168 BC - Battle of Pydna
055 BC - Battle of Jhelum_River
222 BC - Battle of Sellasia
129 BC - Battle of Ecbatana
016 BC - Battle of Getia
086 BC - Battle of Chaeronea
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/bhn5v0
Unzip into EB\data\world\maps\battle\custom
Please enjoy!
Update: Updated to v1.3 - reupload and improved Tigranocerta and Idistaviso
Awesome! Thx very much!!!downloading...
I'll try some of those as soon as possible and return with some feedback.
No matter what, kudos for your effort.
Intranetusa
02-16-2010, 06:16
I salute you. :D
Macilrille
02-16-2010, 11:18
I dunno whether I can play them, for I cannot upgrade from 1,1 for some reason. However, thanks for the effort, you deserve a balloon if only I knew how to give it with this new format (which I am not too happy about). Consider a balloon given anyway ;-)
Well I tried a couple of them ( Illipa, Gergovia, Getia, Bibracte and Tigranocerta) and it seems that you have done a really good job.
However, I don't know if I remember correctly but Scipio Africanus began his campaign in Spain with a 1/6 cavalry to infantry ratio. Somehow I believe that he had more horsemen who did not play a major part in the battle though. Also I remember having read that he placed his Hastati in the middle flanked by the Principes on the left (or was it right) and the triarri with allies on the other flank and his velites with his horses. I can't remember any reference of the extraordinarii although this could mean that the were never ordered to attack.
Concerning Tigranocerta I am pretty sure that Tigranes II had all of his army jampacked on a hill next to the city, had left the river unguarded and legend has it that because his messangers were frightened to tell him that Lucullus had crossed the river ( he had slain the ones who told him that the romans had invaded his kingdom) he was surrounded by the Romans before he was able to form his troops to defend properly ( it might have been Osprey though, so I doubt the historical accuracy in that).
Finally, you did a really good job on Bibracte. You got both the landscape and the two forces spot on ( at least according to Caesar). So far I ejoed this one the most.
I may have sounded a bit like a critical jerk. I do not mean to demotivate you. On the contrary, I congratulate you for the time you spent working on this battle pack and I hope that you will come up with more in the future.
Please accept this :balloon2: for your effort. Cheers!
anubis88
02-16-2010, 12:51
Indeed thank you very much... Can't wait to play them
Skullheadhq
02-16-2010, 13:09
Interesting, downloading right now.
Well I tried a couple of them ( Illipa, Gergovia, Getia, Bibracte and Tigranocerta) and it seems that you have done a really good job.
However, I don't know if I remember correctly but Scipio Africanus began his campaign in Spain with a 1/6 cavalry to infantry ratio. Somehow I believe that he had more horsemen who did not play a major part in the battle though. Also I remember having read that he placed his Hastati in the middle flanked by the Principes on the left (or was it right) and the triarri with allies on the other flank and his velites with his horses. I can't remember any reference of the extraordinarii although this could mean that the were never ordered to attack.
Concerning Tigranocerta I am pretty sure that Tigranes II had all of his army jampacked on a hill next to the city, had left the river unguarded and legend has it that because his messangers were frightened to tell him that Lucullus had crossed the river ( he had slain the ones who told him that the romans had invaded his kingdom) he was surrounded by the Romans before he was able to form his troops to defend properly ( it might have been Osprey though, so I doubt the historical accuracy in that).
Finally, you did a really good job on Bibracte. You got both the landscape and the two forces spot on ( at least according to Caesar). So far I ejoed this one the most.
I may have sounded a bit like a critical jerk. I do not mean to demotivate you. On the contrary, I congratulate you for the time you spent working on this battle pack and I hope that you will come up with more in the future.
Please accept this :balloon2: for your effort. Cheers!
Concerning Ilipa, this is a new info to me. Concerning Tigranocerta, I'm aware of everything you mentioned, but I had to work with RTW AI since I don't know how to script them to behave that way (I did tried to, but it didn't came out right so I gave it up).
Now that I looked into it again Polybius states that the allies ( he doesn't specify socii or spanish) were in the center with the roman infantry flanking them unlike to chessboard formation often used by generals at this time. Still I had tried creating a few battles myself (on vanilla) but could't make the enemy attack me in a solid formation (they rotated like idiots dying to missle fire) so seeing that the sauromatae lancers charged me on the flank in Getia is really something. Did you script that or was it random?
Now that I looked into it again Polybius states that the allies ( he doesn't specify socii or spanish) were in the center with the roman infantry flanking them unlike to chessboard formation often used by generals at this time. Still I had tried creating a few battles myself (on vanilla) but could't make the enemy attack me in a solid formation (they rotated like idiots dying to missle fire) so seeing that the sauromatae lancers charged me on the flank in Getia is really something. Did you script that or was it random?
Na, there is no script in that battle so it was random.
So how does one go about making a historical battle anyway? Did it take you long? or is it simple a matter of choosing a battle location, placing troops, and that's that? like in the battle_editor? The original HB I saw in vanilla RTW had cinematics, where there would be movement and some battle before pausing and continuing. (P.S. have yet to try these HB's that you uploaded so nicely) [P.S.S. would provide you a balloon but am worried about lessening the practical value of said balloon].
So how does one go about making a historical battle anyway? Did it take you long? or is it simple a matter of choosing a battle location, placing troops, and that's that? like in the battle_editor? The original HB I saw in vanilla RTW had cinematics, where there would be movement and some battle before pausing and continuing. (P.S. have yet to try these HB's that you uploaded so nicely) [P.S.S. would provide you a balloon but am worried about lessening the practical value of said balloon].
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=299823
Since this is not the work of the EB team, I am moving it to the unofficial submod forum. Nice work, though.
Weebeast
02-17-2010, 00:13
This looks good. Half of this pack I've never actually read about. I just got yet another stupid rogue virus couple days ago. The worst part is I wasn't even surfing for porn (I haven't since the invention of Youtube-like sites anyway). Anyhoo I will be installing RTW and EB soon so I'm gonna grab it first and maybe praise you more later. Cheers
I added hotfix for the first post.
Jormungand
02-20-2010, 04:35
Download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DNQCZ834
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Hi, from what I hear this is gonna be freaking awesome :)
But unfortunately, MU is blocked in my country for some weird goddamn reason. Would you be so kind as to upload to Filefront or somewhere else?
Many thanks,
G
MButcher
02-20-2010, 21:22
Thank you for releasing this. I can't tell you how good it feels to see Caesar running in terror in the Battle of the Nile!
Hi, from what I hear this is gonna be freaking awesome :)
But unfortunately, MU is blocked in my country for some weird goddamn reason. Would you be so kind as to upload to Filefront or somewhere else?
Many thanks,
G
Updated the first post, would recommend to everyone to re-download it.
Updated the first post again.
Great work ! I tried the battle of Gergovia and it was awesome.
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