Swords and D20's 3: The Demon and the Magus [Concluded]

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

The Demon and the Magus: (50 years after the events of Swords and D20's 2)

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“HURRY!” The Imp skittered up the dirt road, sneering backwards at the black robed man slowly making his way behind him.
“Quiet you infernal creature! I am the one running things here! I will not be talked down by a demonic little wretch like yourself! I am the one who will release this demon, and I will set our pace!” The Sorcerer smashed his staff onto the ground to make his point before marching on. The imp flew to his shoulder, Looking contemptuously at the sorcerer.

The fool. He may be in charge for now…. But not for long….. The imp thought, smiling. Lilith knows what she is talking about.
They marched on, towards a particular town, one with an interesting center piece……


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Balthazar slid an arrow from his quiver discreetly, watching the developing scene with deep interest. Three half Orcs stood in a triangle near his table, the one at the point screaming into the face of Balthazar’s master, high druid Orion. The Orc was obviously drunk, and was yelling for Orion and his group to get out of his seat. Balthazar looked to his side, at the third member of the table. Prawn kept his face unreadable, but to the perceptive elf he saw the subtle twitching of Prawns pointed ears, the whitening of his knuckles as his hands tightened on the table. The tension was palpable in the bar, but that was nothing new. The Town of Briarpatch had been facing the racial tension between its elf population and Orcs since its founding 35 years ago.
The town had started simply enough, a single chapel created by a man named Schism, who had long since died in a Ocish raid. People flocked to the area, as everyone knows money is to be made wherever a PC should flock. Much of the towns economy relied on selling average gear to PC’s for extravagant prices. But enough about Screwing with the PC’s. As one can imagine, the chapel was located near a stone statue, of a man who's tearing through a young mage. The town was young, and many knew of the old tale of gesunheit. But still, its specific were being lost to many, and none realized the evil locked into the stone.

The Orcs and the Elves Naturally hated one another, but both needed a place to live. The only place where they could make a living is Briarpatch, and so that was where they both settled. Balthazar had asked himself why they both lived there more than once, but he chocked it up to the expected demographics chart in the Dungeons masters’ guide. The two races hardly could go a day without riots in the streets and bar fights.

Thus the situation they were in was nothing new. The arrow he drew slowly moved up the rangers sleeve, hidden and ready If this fight escalated.

Orion raised his hands “Alright, alright, you win. We shall leave.” He nodded to his friends and all three left the bar, the orcs laughing at them.

Prawn ground his teeth “Those :daisy: orcs. We should have run them out of town years ago.”
Orion shook his head “no my friend, as long as we can live side by side without killing each other, that is progress. Our races must adapt. Times are changing.”

Balthazar shrugged “If you say so master, but we must be cautious. Something has them even more antsy then usual….. As if they are planning something.”


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It was a fight without a victory. A endless war swirling around and around, a battle in the center of these two beings mind. Reenkis and Gesundheit may have been physically bound totally in the stone composing themselves, but their souls and minds lingered in the stone, and their rage lingered as well.
First contact had been Reenkis’s, for the demon was skilled in mental magic, while Gesundheit was not. The mage had fought for a time, but for naught. His mind was overwhelmed and conquered, and for a time Reenkis lorded there, content. That changed after about a year. Sheer boredom drove the demon to leave the mages mind, and after a time Gesundheit put together the pieces. And then the fight began again. Reenkis held the advantage for some time, slipping in to shatter Gesundheits mind again and again, but every time gave up and allowed the mage to regain his strength. It became a game, and Gesundheit learned quickly. He built his mind into a fortress finding any trick he could to break Reenkis’s attacks, and after 30 years of this fighting he had become as shrewd and skilled as the demon. The game reached a stalemate, and both fought with no gains or victories.
That is the life that the two lived, one of constant combat and readiness. Neither knew how long it would last…. Perhaps forever. For a time Gesundheit hoped his party would come to his rescue, but after the 40th year he lost a great deal of hope, resigning himself to his new life.

Thus when the fighting finally ended and both were returned to their own flesh, Both Reenkis and Gesunheit were surprised, to say the least.

Gesundheit gasped for the first time in 50 years and fell to his knees, blood pouring from the wound in his chest, caused years ago, but still fresh.

Reenkis blinked and stumbled slightly, not really understanding what had happened. A sorcerer grinned before him his robes billowing out in the night breeze. The demon did a double take, seeing that he appeared to be in the square of a town, houses popping up all around him and shops as well.

“BEHOLD FOUL DEMON! I have released you from your bonds, and now I order you to serve your new master!” A imp on his shoulder laughed maniacally, and drove his spiked tail into the sorcerers throat. He sputtered and collapsed, dead from the imps deadly toxin.

The imp flew to the ground and bowed deeply, groveling on the cobbled floor. “Greetings master Reenkis! I have released you from your prison.”

The Greater demon smirked, and rubbed his chin. He saw his hand was decidedly too human and remembered his was still in his old disguise. He dropped it, and took his demonic form. The imp continued cowering, obviously terrified.
“who told you I was here?” Reenkis said.

“Lilith showed me your tomb, and asked that I lead the mage here to free you. She wishes to speak with you…… Lilith that is.”
“Then let us not waste any time here. Take me to this ‘Lilith’”

Reenkis spared a glance to Gesundheit, who was gasping and slowly bleeding from his chest wound.
“And there you have it Gesundheit. I win in the end after all.” Reenkis laughed and turned to leave, the imp leading the way.

(you may be asking why Schism and the others were not able to rescue him if this average sorcerer was. Its because a wizard did it)

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Steve awoke, feeling some kind of disturbance in the for….. I mean magic, yeah magic is what I was going to say. He left his small cloister in the chapel, walking to the porch to the towns square. And he saw a dying man sitting there, a huge hole in his chest.

“ahhh. That’s new.” He rushed to the man, and began chanting his healing spells, closing the chest wound and healing him. The

young man coughed, and opened his eyes
“I thank you sir. If not for you I fear that more than just my own life would be forfeit.”

Steve the cleric raised an eyebrow. “I am sorry young man? Whats going on?”

“it will be a long story, would you mind if I went inside and told you? For now just know this entire town is in terrible danger.”




Rules:

All standard rules apply
Communication out of thread is allowed
Vote: No lynch is allowed
Day phases last 24 or so hours, nights last same amount of time.
And I would appreciate it if you guys could keep a running tally


:bow: Expect a very different game from my last 2 everyone.



For Backround info look here: Haleys revenge (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?125686-Swords-and-D20-s-Minimafia-The-City-of-Doors)
which contains a link to the game you actually have to know about, Sword and D20's 2.




Signups: 17/17
White_eyes:D
Captain Blackadder
Yaropolk
Double A
Khazaar
johnhughthom
Askthepizzaguy
Centurion1
Thermal Mercury
Secura
Joooray
Renata
Methos
Atheotes
BanditDog
A very super market
Autolycus

[White_eyes:D]

IN Been waiting for this....too bad about Schism but making a "Chapel in a Orc town"? I always figured he was too careful for that~:mecry:

[Captain Blackadder]

in being looking forward to this

[Thermal]

is background knowledge of your previous games needed?

You can put me as reserve, or a player if you can't fill the slots. :tongue:

[Yaropolk]

I'm in...my mom always taught me to solve my problems with words instead of swords!

[Double A]

I think you mean Swords and D20's, CDF. :tongue:

In. Can I be Druzil?

Hey wait I second... I thought sorcerers were just more powerful wizards.

[Khazaar]

In to roll a natural twenty!

[johnhughthom]

In.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd like to be a player in this one.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

is background knowledge of your previous games needed?

You can put me as reserve, or a player if you can't fill the slots. :tongue:

Not at all thermal, doesn't matter if you have any backround knowledge.

But if you want I can still put you as reserve.

[Centurion1]

in. love these games. heres fluffy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Secura]

I don't have any other small games active at the moment, so count me in please. :3

I'll try and brush up on your previous two games to get a feel for things.

[Thermal]

Hmm, very well, it looks interesting, I'll play. :grin:

[A Very Super Market]

Extra body

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[Double A]

In to roll a natural twenty!

Sorry, you roll a one and turn into a ninja turtle.

[johnhughthom]

I'll try and brush up on your previous two games to get a feel for things.

No need to read the first one, rumours of the easiest town victory anywhere in the history of the internet are totally untrue. And the mafia were totally awesome whatever you may hear to the contrary.:sweatdrop:

[Joooray]

Sounds like a lot of fun, so I'll like to be IN, please. :bow:

BTW: Hey, john. ~:wave: :evilgrin:

[johnhughthom]

BTW: Hey, john. ~:wave: :evilgrin:

Just to remind you, this is a small game.

[Renata]

Me please.

[Joooray]

Just to remind you, this is a small game.

Hm, I noticed that. Let's see if I care. :evilgrin:


:clown:

[Methos]

Sign me up!

[atheotes]

In :bow:

[Methos]

Hey wait I second... I thought sorcerers were just more powerful wizards.

It depends on what edition your talking about. In 4E I'd say no, they aren't.

[Khazaar]

Sorcerers have a more limited variety of acane powers but are able to use them more often. On lower levels the sorcerers ability to use arcane power more often is an advantage but in mid to higher levels this advantage gets overtaken by the wizards greater adaptability to whatever circumstances arise. Feel free to contact me for more useless D&D knowledge.


...there are probably worse things than mutated turtles out there...

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Sorcerers have a more limited variety of acane powers but are able to use them more often. On lower levels the sorcerers ability to use arcane power more often is an advantage but in mid to higher levels this advantage gets overtaken by the wizards greater adaptability to whatever circumstances arise. Feel free to contact me for more useless D&D knowledge.


...there are probably worse things than mutated turtles out there...

What he said.



It depends on what edition your talking about. In 4E I'd say no, they aren't.


I refuse to believe that 4E exists.

[Methos]

I refuse to believe that 4E exists.

You're like one of the women I work with. Her group still plays 2nd edition and have no desire to ever change. Personally, I played Basic, 1st, 3rd, 3.5, and 4th.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

You're like one of the women I work with. Her group still plays 2nd edition and have no desire to ever change. Personally, I played Basic, 1st, 3rd, 3.5, and 4th.

Yeah, :tongue: Mostly I don't feel like buying all the books over again. 3.5 is good enough for me, don't feel any pressing reason to change.

Almost got all the players, just finishing up some of the mammoth role PM's I need to do.

[Double A]

Sorcerers have a more limited variety of acane powers but are able to use them more often. On lower levels the sorcerers ability to use arcane power more often is an advantage but in mid to higher levels this advantage gets overtaken by the wizards greater adaptability to whatever circumstances arise. Feel free to contact me for more useless D&D knowledge.


...there are probably worse things than mutated turtles out there...

Yeah, but wizards are completly powerless if they don't wear a monocole.

[Centurion1]

oh my god bloody dungeons and dragons talk.

for gods sake.......

[Double A]

Yeah there are a lot of those in DnD.

[Centurion1]

EGO have certus secundum aliquantulus of reputo AA ut ego mos ex iam in compello vos imprimis tantum in Latin. EGO utor is. EGO innutum vos reperio quispiam ut reddo quoniam is mos persevero forever quod ego moris exsisto reddo vobis. ego puto ut CDF teneo latin. im certus is would appreciate meditor , ego teneo ego mos per meus AP probatur coming sursum.

[Double A]

Leggo my ego?

[Centurion1]

ego vere utor vos ignarus quis im sententia , per per quam vos effectus in universitas persona pm res CDF ego vere dont volo morior huic venatus.

[Double A]

ego vere utor vos ignarus quis im sententia , per per quam vos effectus in universitas persona pm res CDF ego vere dont volo morior huic venatus.

That's it, my first night order is "kill Cent" no matter what role I am.

[Centurion1]

*sniff*

vos couldnt iuguolo a lubricus of eu beef.

[Double A]

You're right, too greasy. I'd have to wash it off first.

Remember, we're using the Internet, and it's not even that hard to guess what you're saying...

[Centurion1]

tendo iterum heehee. meus magister would plaga vos namque bardus

Edit: dam thats actually not what i meant to say.

but it still works.

[Double A]

Without using a translator:

You think that's funny. You want to be a magic "zombie" bard.

[Centurion1]

eh no

servo trying

[Methos]

oh my god bloody dungeons and dragons talk.

for gods sake.......

Lol! Internet nerds making fun of other internet nerds!

[A Very Super Market]

CDF, I am in.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Alright, one person left :yes:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

....... Please?

[Centurion1]

someone sign up now......

you want me to corral someone for you bud

[Askthepizzaguy]

Autolycus (From CivFanatics, and a good player) wants to join.

He's a junior member and just needs permission to join the gameroom; he will get it.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Perfect allow me a day to prepare things correctly and then I can start the games first day phase (which will be a bit long, as I am going on a short trip Friday-saturday.)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Night 0

The town all gathered at dawn, the 2 corpses laid side by side in the streets. The Sorcerer was mostly untouched, his only wound a small poke in the neck, but the elf beside him...... Totally butchered.

Balthazar and the other elves stood off to the side, shocked and lost. A few snide comments came from the orcs, but on the whole they remained silent.... In fact for a long time Silence seemed to be the only thing in the town......

Finally Steve stood, face down cast.


"we have a problem everyone...... Demons have come to town. They killed this elf obviously, and we have to....."

Steve was cut off by Prawn " Bull :daisy: this was a demon! We all know who killed Matheas!" Prawn's face contorted in rage, and from the rest of the elves came a murmured assent.


Steve looked flustered "calm down everyone.... We have to deal with this in a orderly fashion! A new friend of mine has a suggestion..... We need to find these demons. So each day we will all vote for one of us to be killed, thus rooting out the demons among us!"


Ragnar Laughed "excuse plot!"

Steve slapped his palm over his face.... "IS NOT! Just get voting!"



Alive: 17/17
White_eyes:D
Captain Blackadder
Yaropolk
Double A
Khazaar
johnhughthom
Askthepizzaguy
Centurion1
Thermal Mercury
Secura
Joooray
Renata
Methos
Atheotes
BanditDog
A very super market
Autolycus


Begin day 1: It will end Sunday Febuarary 28th, at about 9:00 PM EST (sorry for the long phase, but I have a short trip to go on. Plus you may need the time to get organized)



Extra little factoids about my Game:
Level of both attacker and Defender plays a role on whether a kill attempt succeeds
Any other questions just ask. In a bit of a rush, so excuse any mistakes in Roles or writeup, and just point them out to me.

[Captain Blackadder]

The savage bows down to idols of wood and stone, the civilized man to idols of flesh and blood we need to find the savage hidden in our group to see the demon spawn eridicated.

[autolycus]

I have arrived to set down roots here on the .org. Now let's get that demon! Or wait a round since we have nothing to go on. Is vote: no lynch legitimate in this game?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Good call. Vote: No Lynch could have saved us from losing the "unlikely pair" game. Same principle applies here seeing as there are usually an abundance of pro-town roles in CDF's games.

[Renata]

If we all just vote no-lynch off the bat we wind up twiddling our thumbs until Sunday night. Might as well be a night start. So vote: askthepizzaguy for promoting a policy that would waste an entire phase. Plus, anecdote is a favorite refuge of the mafia -- can't argue based on your ideas for this game, since they're not the same as the town's, so you refer to previous games that seem to support your point.

[Centurion1]

vote: renata. i dont like people who like first phase lynches. is a solid idea to not lynch someone phase one.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Plus, anecdote is a favorite refuge of the mafia

And I could give you several examples where I did that as town... oops! More anecdotes! RUN!!!

[Yaropolk]

Vote BanditDog lets get a few votes up on the board so people come out of the woodwork to start posting.

[Renata]

Yeah, you better run, demon boy. :)

I hate no lynch, despite there being times when it might be a useful option. I also hate relying on power roles to do our work for us.

If I ever run another game I'll probably allow no-lynch for every day BUT the first, just to be perverse.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yeah, you better run, demon boy. :)

I hate no lynch, despite there being times when it might be a useful option. I also hate relying on power roles to do our work for us.

If I ever run another game I'll probably allow no-lynch for every day BUT the first, just to be perverse.

Okay, personal preferences aside though, on later rounds there's usually more to work with than just random votes. On later rounds you have fewer suspects and more information, and your lynches are better. No Lynch is usually a terrible idea later on. Practically the only situation where No Lynch even works as a viable strategy is on round one, because it forces the mafia to do most of the killing, instead of helping them along with a bad first day lynch of our own.

As for not relying on power roles, that would be a welcome change. But that isn't the entire point; the point is, with No Lynch we guarantee that the detective, if any, is out there doing his or her job. The defender, if any, is out there doing his or her job. The roleblocker, if any, is out there doing his or her job. AND, there's a maximum number of potential candidates out there for them to hide in. In order for the mafia to make any progress here, they are the ones who must guess correctly. If they don't hit a detective or blocker or such, they've reduced the number of total suspects for them to hide in, and the town as a whole has gained much information.

Presuming the power roles can get that information out there before they die, they provide advantages where basic townies cannot. The No Lynch strategy puts maximum pressure on the mafia.

It's a bland as all heck strategy, but the reason it is employed at all in games is because there ARE certain situations where it is the superior strategy. Kind of like when there's one mafia remaining but there's 4 people in the game. You don't lynch, because your odds just became 1/2 of guessing correctly on the final lynch instead of 1/3. That's another situation where No Lynch makes any sense whatsoever.

Professor Pizzaguy has spoketh. :7teacher:

[Captain Blackadder]

vote no lynch

At this stage there is nothing to go one with and I prefer not to vote for people untill they have had a chance to post and see if the hit my scumdar.

[Secura]

I have arrived to set down roots here on the .org. Now let's get that demon! Or wait a round since we have nothing to go on. Is vote: no lynch legitimate in this game?

Welcome to the .Org! :3

As for voting, well I'd have to go for vote: no lynch. At this phase in the game, I'd rather not lynch someone innocent.

[Renata]

As for not relying on power roles, that would be a welcome change. But that isn't the entire point; the point is, with No Lynch we guarantee that the detective, if any, is out there doing his or her job. The defender, if any, is out there doing his or her job. The roleblocker, if any, is out there doing his or her job. AND, there's a maximum number of potential candidates out there for them to hide in. In order for the mafia to make any progress here, they are the ones who must guess correctly. If they don't hit a detective or blocker or such, they've reduced the number of total suspects for them to hide in, and the town as a whole has gained much information.

This is why I don't argue against first-day no-lynches all that strongly despite my preferences. There are advantages to it. What I do object to is going for no-lynch as policy, right off the bat, without apparently any intention to try to put the slightest amount of pressure on anyone.


Presuming the power roles can get that information out there before they die, they provide advantages where basic townies cannot. The No Lynch strategy puts maximum pressure on the mafia.

And this is just false. Mafia face no pressure whatsoever with an off-the-bat no-lynch promotion. They're not forced to defend their opinions, they don't have to decide whether to defend or back up or ignore accusations against their teammates, they don't have to do anything. They chuck in a no-lynch vote of their own at some point and spend the rest of the time plotting in their Quicktopic. It's the opposite of pressure. I don't think a marginally reduced likelihood of the mafia making a good kill outweighs that -- that's my bias in favor of public discussion and argument showing, right there.

And really that's the heart of my objection to your post, ATPG. Not so much the voting no-lynch on day one, because despite my preferences I think the advantages and disadvantages are probably too close to call. It's not that big a deal. But doing so right at the start of a 3-day phase, backing up and giving credence to someone who had already done so previously, and hence greatly increasing the probability that the rest of the players would follow right along -- that I don't like.

[Secura]

And really that's the heart of my objection to your post, ATPG. Not so much the voting no-lynch on day one, because despite my preferences I think the advantages and disadvantages are probably too close to call. It's not that big a deal. But doing so right at the start of a 3-day phase, backing up and giving credence to someone who had already done so previously, and hence greatly increasing the probability that the rest of the players would follow right along -- that I don't like.

Renata has a really strong point here; I don't advocate a misinformed lynch, because we could lose a vital pro-town role before they've had chance to do anything. However, at the same time I don't feel we're getting the most out of such a long day phase if our voting decision is defined by an arbitrary no lynch vote because it's the first day phase.

There are advantages and disadvantages to no lynch, and they warrant some discussion, at the very least.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This is why I don't argue against first-day no-lynches all that strongly despite my preferences. There are advantages to it. What I do object to is going for no-lynch as policy, right off the bat, without apparently any intention to try to put the slightest amount of pressure on anyone.

The only pressure a mafioso would feel on round one is false pressure. There is no detective result, and if you get randomly lynched you get randomly lynched. There is no counter-argument to stop it. No one is really obligated to protest, because there's no case being made and nothing to say except "you're wrong". So other than putting on a pouty face (on my side of the monitor) there is no reaction to see. There is no "twitch". What exactly are you looking for?

You will either randomly lynch a mafia (kudos on that when you do) or you will pressure a pro-town role to reveal, which renders them useless and an early target. You're banking on the odds of actually hitting a scum as opposed to hitting a random townie who may not protest, or a pro-town role who might panic and early reveal. The scum on the other hand won't do that, because they have nothing to reveal and if they were to claim something that someone else knows is false, they'd still get lynched only with greater enthusiasm. The pressure you speak of only makes sense when there's a remote possibility of there being investigative results, roleblocker deductions, or defender's positive results, or at least a voting history to compare. You could accuse a mafia and bandwagon them all day on round one and get no reaction.

Well, I suppose that's assuming they are decent players. That might work against newbies.




And this is just false. Mafia face no pressure whatsoever with an off-the-bat no-lynch promotion.

You're speaking of a different kind of pressure. We're arguing past each other.

The pressure I refer to is not psychological; it is real. It is the fact that all the pro-town roles are intact going into the night phase of round one, plus 100% of the innocent basic roles.

Sure you could put false psychological pressure on someone, by all means. However, the odds are that after you do that, people would rather choose a candidate than actually revert back to voting No Lynch. And so the No Lynch option, which you regard as a viable strategy, and in my opinion is the best one here, is tossed out the window in lieu of betting that you'll guess correctly or the mafia will flinch. In my experience even when you vote the right person, they just accept it and die, and the odds are greatest against that scenario right now.


They're not forced to defend their opinions, they don't have to decide whether to defend or back up or ignore accusations against their teammates, they don't have to do anything.

They still don't have to do anything. At this point everyone has the exact same credibility. You can accuse them based on nothing, and they can accuse someone else based on nothing. There is no justification for it except the position that lynch is better than no lynch, which is very debateable. I simply disagree with you that the psychological pressure of a random bandwagon has any merit in a situation where no one could legitimately be asked to defend their reasons for voting someone.


They chuck in a no-lynch vote of their own at some point and spend the rest of the time plotting in their Quicktopic. It's the opposite of pressure. I don't think a marginally reduced likelihood of the mafia making a good kill outweighs that -- that's my bias in favor of public discussion and argument showing, right there.

Fair enough. I never said your viewpoint was illegitimate. This isn't an exact science. In my calculation, the odds of victory increase when we have pro-town roles and we don't lynch round one. This would be an illogical position if they did not exist, because there is no chance of moving in the correct direction in the night phase after not moving at all in the day phase. The only real option in a basic game on day one is to lynch, but in CDF's games it doesn't work that way.


And really that's the heart of my objection to your post, ATPG. Not so much the voting no-lynch on day one, because despite my preferences I think the advantages and disadvantages are probably too close to call. It's not that big a deal. But doing so right at the start of a 3-day phase, backing up and giving credence to someone who had already done so previously, and hence greatly increasing the probability that the rest of the players would follow right along -- that I don't like.

I understand your argument fully. I don't take it personally that you've made such an assessment. But I don't agree with your assessment and I'm confident that my choice is the correct one. That said I don't mind the debate about policy, because it rightly generates discussion, which is the only downside to the No Lynch option. You're only helping make the strategy work more effectively here, so kudos.

[Methos]

Vote: Century For accusing someone who accused someone who voted no lynch.

We have three days, let's at least play during that time rather then just vote no lynch and start the game on Monday.

[Thermal]

vote: avsm

[Khazaar]

I think it can´t hurt to lynch someone on D1, maybe we get lucky....

Vote: Banditdog Welcome, and enjoy your stay...

[Double A]

Percival has informed me there is no evidence of a demon, so I shall vote: No lynch.

[White_eyes:D]

Percival has informed me there is no evidence of a demon, so I shall vote: No lynch.
Guys....we need some pressure votes on the lurkers at the very LEAST:stare:

I am going to Vote:Joooray..I am not a big fan of the no-lynch:juggle2:

[atheotes]

Whoa...Pizza is very defensive about the no lynch vote...it is unlike him to do so early on a 3 day long day phase. I have never seen so much support for a no lynch vote. When i started playing mafia i used to get a lot of grief for voting no lynch in the first phase. CDF used to get the same too...
there are enough no lynch votes already...no one is going to feel any pressure....
Vote: Centurion - there is nothing wrong with Renata's argument. Did you not read her argument :inquisitive:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I always defend my choices when they are criticized. It's not my policy to ignore any legitimate concern, especially not a direct accusation. If I expect people to respond to me when I question them, it would be strange not to offer them the same courtesy.

[Centurion1]

Whoa...Pizza is very defensive about the no lynch vote...it is unlike him to do so early on a 3 day long day phase. I have never seen so much support for a no lynch vote. When i started playing mafia i used to get a lot of grief for voting no lynch in the first phase. CDF used to get the same too...
there are enough no lynch votes already...no one is going to feel any pressure....
Vote: Centurion - there is nothing wrong with Renata's argument. Did you not read her argument

her argument is weak and i dont like it. first round lynches are like a blind man trying to pick a red tie. Yeah sometimes he gets red but most of the time its going to be the wrong tie.

unvote; vote: no lynch

[Joooray]

I do not like first round lynches, random votes too often work against the town, in my opinion. Thus I find the arguments of ATPG to be quite convincing and will be looking forward to see if it works out this way. Can't remember any 'no lynch' succeeding in any game I've been in before.

Vote: No lynch.

[Renata]

unvote, vote Centurion1

Because I can.

[johnhughthom]

Can't remember any 'no lynch' succeeding in any game I've been in before.

Do you mean succeeding as a tactic or winning the vote?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Hey, Sorry everyone. Bandit Dog was supposed have told you all that my power went out because of a mother of a Storm, and my vacation got extended a little bit.....


Don't worry, I will be sure to punish him for his lurkiness..... :brood: (I told him of what vital importance it was) I just got a hotel room with Internet access, so I should be able to get to all your questions :tongue:


Suffice to say The round is not being shortened. I need to get back on top of things.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

, Human Commoner
Alignment: Neutral Good (townie)
Level: 10th level commoner


Every town needs commoners, but that does not mean you are chopped liver! You may be a NPC but you can still save everyone from these demons!

Abilities:

-


Victory Conditions: 1 gets you a Major Victory, 2 a Perfect

1. Eliminate all Anti-town roles
2. survive



You all now have access to a basic Townie role PM. Use it well

I had meant to add this to the writeup, but my power went out about an hour after I got the writeup up. Suffice to say I was taking a break at the time :tongue: sorry for the inconvenience

[Joooray]

Winning the vote. At least as far as I can remember, but I CAN remember a lot bad first phase lynches. :shrug:

[Beskar]

Pizza is harmless, you can tickle his belly and he will purr.

[White_eyes:D]

Pizza is harmless, you can tickle his belly and he will purr.
Your making me think of that nice BIG orange tabby cat that I once had...I miss that cat~:mecry:
But Pizzaguy is more like this cat....https://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo305/kazphoto/Cats/pizza.jpg Joooray has posted...let's see if I can tickle any others into posting:juggle2: Unvote:Joooray Vote:Autolycus

[Thermal]

unvote
vote: renata

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think that's plenty of time to see where people stand. If you're going to actually pressure anyone, the vote needs to be closer than it is. It would also be really easy to switch back to No Lynch if we so choose.

unvote, vote: Centurion1. There's something off about your posts.


vote: renata. i dont like people who like first phase lynches. is a solid idea to not lynch someone phase one.

This post is a complete contradiction in terms. Vote: First round lynch, because I don't like First round lynch?


her argument is weak and i dont like it. first round lynches are like a blind man trying to pick a red tie. Yeah sometimes he gets red but most of the time its going to be the wrong tie.

unvote; vote: no lynch

You only become consistent on your position after pressure is applied. Please explain. The vote here wasn't even that close, but you still seem nervous.

And here, you've got the inverse of the above quote. You think there's something off about Renata, and so therefore... vote: No Lynch?

[autolycus]

Oy, White_Eyes, I already posted, back near the beginning of the day.

[White_eyes:D]

I know...I was just welcoming you to the Org.:shakehands:(It's customary to get at least one vote, when you start)

Besides, my one vote is not going to lynch you and if it was, I would take it off right away(I know what it's like to take a welcome vote too far:embarassed:)

[Secura]

I think that's plenty of time to see where people stand. If you're going to actually pressure anyone, the vote needs to be closer than it is. It would also be really easy to switch back to No Lynch if we so choose.

Nine hours or so is plenty of time, yes. I'll let you tie up your own seemingly loose-end, but there's a different one that has stood out for me.

unvote; vote: Thermal Mercury

It strikes me as odd that both of your posts are simply votes with no explanation as to your reasons for said vote. I'm a real stick-in-the-mud when it comes to people giving some sort of reasoning behind a vote, you see, so I apologise now for picking you out of the crowd.

Anyway, I can actually understand your vote against AVSM (naughty lurky), but why Renata? Her arguments have been pretty solid from the start, but it also places alot of emphasis upon herself; she stands out for the strength of the argument.

If Renata was mafia, this would be a very, very foolish and risky play, don't you think? Advocating a lynch when the general consensus has been established for the first phase and we're drifting towards no lynch at all?

She is either very foolish scum or a very brave townie. I'm vouching for the latter.

[Centurion1]

vote: centurion1

im a role blocker.

and i really dislike being lynched first phase you want to take that chance

[Centurion1]

excuse me

unvote ; vote: centurion1

[Renata]

Who said you were going to be lynched? But I don't know that that claim helps you.

[Joooray]

vote: centurion1

im a role blocker.

and i really dislike being lynched first phase you want to take that chance

Cent, why are you so easily stressed out? You are quite quick to claim. :shrug:
The tally looked not that bad for you:

Centurion1: 5 (Methos, atheotes, Renata, Atpg, Centurion1)
No lynch: 4 (Autolycus, Captain Blackadder, Double A, Joooray)
Bandit Dog: 2 (Yaropolk, Khazaar)
Autolycus: 1 (White_Eyes:D)
Renata: 1 (Thermal Mercury)
Thermal Mercury: 1 (Secura)

[Askthepizzaguy]

That's terrible. If you're telling the truth, Centurion1, not only are you intentionally risking your own head, but you've removed all effectiveness your role could have possibly had this game, in addition to acting in such a nervous way as to possibly indicate guilt.

I've said it before, and so I will say it again: WHY, in situations such as these, do you not (at the VERY least) lower the risk of your role becoming useless and a night target by contacting one or two of the people in question who are voting for you and then tell them to give you the benefit of the doubt for a round or two. Then, they can lynch you in a couple days, or roleblock you, or investigate you, and see if your claim holds up, and then you can at least attempt to be useful during the game.

This reminds me of the Riftwar game where someone got accused early on and immediately revealed. That didn't end well. Don't do that.

[Beskar]

Because he is scum.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I take it you're joining the game, then Beskar? Who did you replace?

[Beskar]

I take it you're joining the game, then Beskar? Who did you replace?

Not confirmed yet, but I might be replacing some one, yes.

[A Very Super Market]

vote: avsm

I prefer my name capitalized.

Vote: No Lynch

[Centurion1]

because whenever i make a plea it falls on deaf ears. mafia is a game so based off of lying and the like most people dont believe me anyway. maybe 20% of you actually believe my claim but arent totally sure.

if you believe me you believe me so be it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Since you already claimed roleblocker, do you want to tell us your name at least?

[Thermal]

Nine hours or so is plenty of time, yes. I'll let you tie up your own seemingly loose-end, but there's a different one that has stood out for me.

unvote; vote: Thermal Mercury

It strikes me as odd that both of your posts are simply votes with no explanation as to your reasons for said vote. I'm a real stick-in-the-mud when it comes to people giving some sort of reasoning behind a vote, you see, so I apologise now for picking you out of the crowd.

Anyway, I can actually understand your vote against AVSM (naughty lurky), but why Renata? Her arguments have been pretty solid from the start, but it also places alot of emphasis upon herself; she stands out for the strength of the argument.

Yes, I voted for AVSM as a random vote in the dark for someone completely inactive, however I changed to Renata after reading this.


unvote, vote Centurion1

Because I can.

Not giving any answer to centurion's thoughts of not lynching anyone, but rather just transfering her vote in OMGUS style.




If Renata was mafia, this would be a very, very foolish and risky play, don't you think? Advocating a lynch when the general consensus has been established for the first phase and we're drifting towards no lynch at all?

She is either very foolish scum or a very brave townie. I'm vouching for the latter.

Your probably right, it was just a vote based on what I saw, I certainly didn't see Renata to be under a large amount of pressure so it couldn't harm to apply some. It probably looks like I was sticking up for centurion a little to much (I don't want this to bite me later in the game) so just to clarify, I don't stick up for his suicide vote, if he is innocent hes being a bad townie right now.

[Double A]

I prefer my name capitalized.

Vote: No Lynch

So are you like the anti-pever?

[Askthepizzaguy]

So, quick trivia time, can anyone guess why I am not happy? I know most of you know the answer.

[Double A]

Uhh... uhh... because EA closed the Bad Company 2 demo?

Uhh... uhh... because I keep spamming your profile page?

Uhh... uhh... because if I ask the real question you'll burninate my character?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Down to the last 3 hours :yes:

I believe Cent is in the lead?

[Askthepizzaguy]

He's the one putting the final vote on himself if so. I thought it was tied Centurion1/No Lynch.

:shrug:

[Beskar]

Vote:Centurion1

He is either scum or dumb.

Oh wait...

[Centurion1]

unvote; vote: no lynch

im not going to keep a kill vote on myself.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I rap you on the head with my cane of justice, ye who admits he does not even have his role PM yet. Your vote doesn't make any sense and shouldn't count until then.

Also, there's a reason why I'm leaving it tied under these circumstances. I want to see who breaks the tie.

EDIT: Well speak of the devil.

[Centurion1]

beskar really...........

[Secura]

Naughty Beskie's vote doesn't count Centurion; I was there when he posted it, and he is not yet in the game, if CDf does choose him as a replacement.

Therefore, it is your vote change that broke the deadlock. :3

Also, before I forget, unvote, vote: Centurion1. You're either a mafia in need of lynching or a pro-town role who is going to be killed for revealing... I believe it's better to be safe than sorry.

[johnhughthom]

The savage bows down to idols of wood and stone, the civilized man to idols of flesh and blood we need to find the savage hidden in our group to see the demon spawn eridicated.

Vote: Captain Blackadder, that post so obviously contains a codeword for some evil demon related grouping.

[Centurion1]

secura is scum.

after i am dead........

lynch her.

Edit: and i have a very high level so night kills are difficult an me to say the least.

and also you need to get a new post you cant edit a vote.

[Secura]

Lynch me? Pray tell, why?

Also, seeing as how you are probably correct regarding the legitimacy of my vote, unvote, vote: Centurion1.

[Beskar]

Edit: and i have a very high level so night kills are difficult an me to say the least.

High level = Mafia

[Centurion1]

*sigh8 i wash my hands of this and apologize to the town in advance.

and i use this as an opportunity to point out that beskar acts mildly scummy in all mafia games so don't even bother acknowledging that. its like his trademark.

[johnhughthom]

*sigh8 i wash my hands of this and apologize to the town in advance.

and i use this as an opportunity to point out that beskar acts mildly scummy in all mafia games so don't even bother acknowledging that. its like his trademark.

Mildly?

[Centurion1]

Mildly?

touche sir

[Secura]

It's actually quite funny, because Beskar is not yet part of this game; he's merely bandying his two cents around and being mean.

You act as though those who have voted for you have no claim to do so though, Cent; you role-claimed in the very first round of the game, surely you see the fallacy in that? However you look at it, be you mafia or pro-town, it's a move that was only likely to end in suspicion.

[Centurion1]

yes but if i am pro town you get at least one night phase out of me if i am killed.

and due to my penchant of being far too lazy to lie i am most likely telling the truth.

[johnhughthom]

I like your other name for him Secura, think I'll call him Beskie from now on. No, I'll go the whole hog and call him Naughty Beskie.

[Secura]

Being new to the forums, and thus not knowing you very well, I would actually believe that had I not seen the extent to which you had people duped in Noblesse Oblige.

I actually had CDf PM me during that game maintaining that you were actually an anti-Kira hacker who had been working alongside CDf for a large portion of the game; he was absolutely convinced that you were pro-town, and entirely stunned when he realised who your character truly was. It was an impressive feat, to be sure, but it raises one point; if you can convince a close friend that you're not scum, what about people that don't know you?

I feel that you're not as lazy as you make out and that you are, in fact, very shrewd in playing mafia.

[Secura]

Bah, forum 'tarded out and made me double-post that.

[Centurion1]

i told CDF im a boy scout and boy scouts never lie.

i have my bursts of genius but even from that game....... i didnt follow closely enough and missed a crucial night phase which would have been the fulfillment of my victory.

so yes i am very lazy. im trying to stop it but it is hard to get really into these games with school and sports and the such.

Edit: its not hard to get into i mean it is hard to get time to post thesis and theories like some other players also i lack the paranoid streak the great players have.

[Centurion1]

Edit: nine hells whats up with double posts.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Edit: nine hells whats up with double posts.

HAH! You used it too!


(starting writeup)

[Centurion1]

so i was lynched...........

well no lies now.

i wasnt mafia and i was telling the truth.

watch renata

[Centurion1]

HAH! You used it too!

you have such a negative influence on me. gah next ill be playing d and d

[Secura]

i wasnt mafia and i was telling the truth.

Dammit... egg and our faces are truly in alignment.

[Centurion1]

nah i as usual made myself die.

now you know to never overestimate me ever again lol

and it might actually be tied so i have a random. org chance of surviving.

in which case the mafia will kill me, if they can (CDf have i ever told you i love your level system)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

nah i as usual made myself die.

now you know to never overestimate me ever again lol

and it might actually be tied so i have a random. org chance of surviving.

in which case the mafia will kill me, if they can (CDf have i ever told you i love your level system)

Your Welcome :beam:


Final tally? Could be important.

[Double A]

HAH! You used it too!


(starting writeup)

Can you PLEASE make obscure Drizzt refrences that only I will get?

[Secura]

Well, I will agree that your posts hardly cast you in a favourable light; it did seem scummy to role claim publicly so early. I believe that was the reason people opted to vote for you, rather than any arguments advocating your lynch.

However, I disagree with overestimating you. My #1 rule for mafia is never to assume; the person that is mafia for one game may well be town the next. I'll still be cautious around you, Cent. :P

[Centurion1]

hopefully so seeing as there is never a good argument to lynch someone phase one.

tallying (i have dialup so maybe im the wrong choice for this.)

and AA ill get them too and ive read more than you so :tongue:

[Double A]

Yeah well that's completely irregardless.

:tongue:

[Centurion1]

nope i died. thank you Secura! lol


Yeah well that's completely irregardless.

someone sounds jealous.

[Double A]

Not really, because I still get to read them without knowing what will happen next!

And if you spoiler me, I'm reporting you. To the president of the Internet.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Final official tally, based off of the previous full tally posted, adding in changes:


No lynch: 6 (Autolycus, Captain Blackadder, Double A, Joooray, AVSM, Centurion1)
Centurion1: 5 (Methos, atheotes, Renata, Atpg, Secura)
Bandit Dog: 2 (Yaropolk, Khazaar)
Autolycus: 1 (White_Eyes:D)
Renata: 1 (Thermal Mercury)
Blackadder: 1(JHT)

Not checked for errors yet

[Centurion1]

i think it is tied unfortunately my dear pizza or i am losing.

[Askthepizzaguy]

i think it is tied unfortunately my dear pizza or i am losing.

My goodness you're as pessimistic as Eeyore. I took Joooray's tally from post 86 and I factored in the changes since then. If I did that correctly and Joooray's tally was correct then you're still alive, you big worry wart.

[Centurion1]

Not really, because I still get to read them without knowing what will happen next!

And if you spoiler me, I'm reporting you. To the president of the Internet.

drizzit dies and it turns out jarlaxe is his cousin and the son of alustriel.

bruenor is actually the brother of athrogate.

[Centurion1]

My goodness you're as pessimistic as Eeyore. I took Joooray's tally from post 86 and I factored in the changes since then. If I did that correctly and Joooray's tally was correct then you're still alive, you big worry wart.

im certainly not going to argue with you. though i must say i am definitely a tigger. you sir are a pooh bear.

[Double A]

drizzit dies and it turns out jarlaxe is his cousin and the son of alustriel.

bruenor is actually the brother of athrogate.

:laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

This tally was double checked, from the beginning, as accurate.

No lynch: 6 (Autolycus, Captain Blackadder, Double A, Joooray, AVSM, Centurion1)
Centurion1: 5 (Methos, atheotes, Renata, Atpg, Secura)
Bandit Dog: 2 (Yaropolk, Khazaar)
Autolycus: 1 (White_Eyes:D)
Renata: 1 (Thermal Mercury)
Blackadder: 1(JHT)


apologies for the sloppiness. (fixed) The tally is 6 to 5, No Lynch wins.

[Centurion1]

oh you think im kidding. just you wait. think of that movie misery, poor RA doesnt even know what approaches him.

*these late night ramblings are lowering my school grades and driving up my post count, worth it? i dare say so.

[Secura]

yes but if i am pro town you get at least one night phase out of me if i am killed.

I'm going to hold you to this, Cent.

By which I mean I hope that we can get some use out of you before you're killed. Though I'd like to appeal to any protectors out there to keep an eye on Cent. :3

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm going to hold you to this, Cent.

By which I mean.....

Yeah, good thing you corrected yourself there Secura. I was about to do the obvious Bow Chicka Bow Wow joke.

[Secura]

Hmph!

I corrected myself and amended my post because I felt that it may cast me in an unfavourable light, whereas if Cent's claim to be pro-town is actually true, I genuinely DO want a nice doctor-esque role to watch over him during the night phase.

We need our power roles. :<

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Day 1 End

The Day was a long one, With a general trend being that many thought lynching no one would be a good idea. However, The acts of one Centurion caused everyone to pause….. His responses made him the number one suspect of everyone in town, who slowly but surely closed in around him, like a circle of Goblins around a rabbit…..

Uriel was sweating up a storm, his voice starting to fumble, running together into one big blob as he frantically preached his innocence.
“Please. comeoncomeon, don’tkill me! I have’nt done anythingwrong! I am tryingtobe good! Iam turning a newleaf! I Can’tgoto the abyss! I don’t wanttoend up a dretch!” The big Fighter started crying to himself, curling into the fetal position.

“Dude, hes SOOOO scum.” Beskar was lounging on the sofa, laughing at the description.
Cent sighed “when the heck did he get here? And No Beskar, I am completely innocent.”

“if you were innocent you would not be such a wussy!” Double A cut in, nodding.

Askthepizzaguy shook his head “no, its completely possible and quite likely that CDF would throw in some interesting character quirks into his roles, thus making them easier to characterize and differentiate.”

Beskar nodded “yeah, but he is still totally scum.”
Cent facepalmed, shaking his head.
Cultured Drizzt fan raised a quizzical eyebrow at Beskar “ehh, why exactly ARE you here?”

Beksar shrugged “I got bored, Came to visit. Hey, do you have Call of duty?”

CDF shook his head “uhhhh, no, no I don’t.”
Beksar sighed “fine then, I will do whatever you guys are doing. Cut me in or whatever you call it.”

“Cut you in??? This is not Poker…..” CDF rubbed his temple, already feeling the migraines. “But yeah, I could use another Player, BanditDog has been decidedly silent all game.”

CDF pointed to a broom with a shirt on it. “Yeah…… BanditDog lost internet access about a day after the game started……. Haven’t been sure what to do with him.”

“alright then, I am in the game! Does my vote for Cent still count??”

“uhhh, NO” CDF grimaced.

“:daisy:” Beskar said.
CDF coughed, and returned to his narrative.


However, the votes were finally read, and it looked like Cent had escaped Death once again! He was tearing up he was so happy (tearing up more than he had been that is)

But then Xena popped out of nowhere. No, I am not making this up, Xena showed up:

http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/25046.gif

She walked over to Captain Blackadder, Sitting in his lap.

“baby, why are you voting no Lynch? We both know that Cent has to be guilty!” She kissed the man on the cheek, and he started stuttering.

“ohhh, well! Uhhh Yeah, he must be guilty. I change my Vote to Centurion!” He moved in to kiss the woman back, but she simply put her fingers on his lips, smiling at Cent. “drop the act now honey, we both know you’re a Demon!”

Cent sputtered “NO I am not!”
The rest of the town shrugged “too late, you gotta die now.” An Orc moved in with his axe, slashing one of the Mans arms off. A elf fired an arrow at his throat, and Steve smashed him in the face with his mace. In moments the fight was over, and Uriels spirit departed, fearing beyond all else his fate in the planes beyond.

You have all Lynched Uriel, A mugger gone straight (Centurion1)

(Beskar has Replaced BanditDog, who can not continue with the game)


Final Tally:

Centurion1: 6 (Methos, atheotes, Renata, Atpg, Secura, Captain Blackadder,)
No lynch: 5 (Autolycus, Double A, Joooray, AVSM, Centurion1)
Bandit Dog: 2 (Yaropolk, Khazaar)
Autolycus: 1 (White_Eyes:D)
Renata: 1 (Thermal Mercury)
Blackadder: 1(JHT)



Alive: 16/17
White_eyes:D
Captain Blackadder
Yaropolk
Double A
Khazaar
johnhughthom
Askthepizzaguy
Thermal Mercury
Secura
Joooray
Renata
Methos
Atheotes
Beskar
A very super market
Autolycus


Lynched: 1
Centurion1


Killed: 0




Start Night 1: It will end Monday Febuary 29th, at 9:00 PM EST

[Askthepizzaguy]

your jpg, she's not working, squire!


No one make a dirty joke about that please.

[Centurion1]

dam.

if you could see me know i had the most smug smirk on my face that fell as i kept reading.......

[Double A]

Gah? What just happened?


“if you were innocent you would not be such a wussy!” Double A cut in, nodding.

I would say this, but I'd change one word slightly... Wussy would be

Weenie!

[Centurion1]

I would say this, but I'd change one word slightly... Wussy would be

once again your jealousy at my literary experience is showing my dear boy.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Pics fixed, although its a bit too big. :tongue:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay now the jpg is working. And lo and behold, I now am experiencing a reaction of my own! it's a pretty picture.

[Double A]

once again your jealousy at my literary experience is showing my dear boy.

So I kan geet gooder at Englisch, kan yuu to rite my Englisch papier as an guied?

[Centurion1]

So I kan geet gooder at Englisch, kan yuu to write my English paper as an guide?

that is almost as annoying as my latin i am sure.

[Beskar]

Looks like my mental picture of Renata.

[Secura]

Okay now the jpg is working. And lo and behold, I now am experiencing a reaction of my own! it's a pretty picture.


Looks like my mental picture of Renata.

Perverts... she'd tear you a new one! :P

[Centurion1]

actually i think im going to do it............

Centurions Epic Theory

Secura = Xena

Why you ask?
1. Both are woman
2. Their avatars faces are remotely similar
3. Xena and Secura both have one e



i know the evidence is overwhelming.

id say more sexist remarks but i quite like my current one.

[Double A]

Looks like my mental picture of Renata.

Renata's a chick?

Because when I met [Renata] I thought [Renata] was a girl, until Diana implied she was the only girl around when Secura joined.

:dizzy2:

[Centurion1]

Renata's a chick?

Because when I met [Renata] I thought [Renata] was a girl, until Diana implied she was the only girl around when Secura joined.

duh dude she has a lady avatar and everyone knows lady avatars dont lie.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Perverts... she'd tear you a new one! :P

I will cop to the first part, but I was referring to Lucy Lawless. Hopefully that is less offensive to the gals here, who do have their own Hunk Thread in the backroom to admire, if I am not mistaken.

And if Renata is not a female then I have a very comfortable image in my mind that I will be unhappy to remove.

[Double A]

duh dude she has a lady avatar and everyone knows lady avatars dont lie.

*sniff* that's what Mark told me!

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

*sniff* that's what Mark told me!

http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/song-chart-memes-its-trap.jpg

[Centurion1]

I will cop to the first part, but I was referring to Lucy Lawless. Hopefully that is less offensive to the gals here, who do have their own Hunk Thread in the backroom to admire, if I am not mistaken.

And if Renata is not a female then I have a very comfortable image in my mind that I will be unhappy to remove.

Frontroom i believe and how do i know that........ its a mystery.

Edit: now that cd fis what i find hot. oh baby.

[Secura]

http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/song-chart-memes-its-trap.jpg

I'd like you to know that I wasn't wearing any makeup when that picture was taken, CDf!

Blotchy skin and watery eyes... damn you.

It takes alot of effort to make a Mon Calarami look attractive. :3

[Centurion1]

ah secura dont worry most of the men here will still find you a highly attractive bothan bride.



*that is a bothan no*

Edit: oops mon calamari my bad.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I am going to go to sleep now, and hope these images don't find me there.

I would ask how this all got started, but I have noone to blame but myself.

[Secura]

I am going to go to sleep now, and hope these images don't find me there.

I would ask how this all got started, but I have noone to blame but myself.

What he means to say is that he's going to dream of a Mon Calamari with some eyeliner, lipstick and foundation on. :3

Different strokes for different folks!

[Centurion1]

oh god. im done here im going to chalk it up to hormones and the rare occurence of a woman on the .org

and of course it ended up being about star wars.

[Double A]

ah secura dont worry most of the men here will still find you a highly attractive bothan bride.



*that is a bothan no*

Edit: oops mon calamari my bad.

You nitwit! Didn't you play Star Wars: Battlefront!? Bothans are the spies that can turn invisible and have the death absorber thingy!

So anyway, a chick who plays mafia AND likes Star Wars?

I can't think of anything appropriate that won't make me seem like either a stiffback or a pervert.

So hi.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Edit: now that cd fis what i find hot. oh baby.

Now that cross-dressing f...something... is what you find hot? :dizzy2: ???

[Double A]

I find pizza hot.

As well as anything else that just came out of an oven, microwave, or grill.

[Secura]

Well, I currently need a means to keep my brain honed for my return to university, and mafia is a very fine way to do so (more fun than More Brain Training for sure). Processes of elimination, arithmetic and a healthy dose of logical debate is fantastic for generating brain activity and ensuring I don't return to uni a babbling idiot talking about clothes or shoes in a History lecture.

As for Star Wars, I'm not a massive fan, I just know bits and bobs. I thought all students have large amounts of useless knowledge anyway, from reading too many beermats and such! :D

Also, I like generally like pizza, but find garlic bread to be a viable alternative.

[Double A]

You could try a Total War game.

[Renata]

I don't suppose that red text meant anti-town, did it?

In any case, one actual good thing that came out of that is that we've been alerted to a vote-switcher in the game, and likely not a town-friendly one, because it's not very likely a town vote-switcher reveals his existence to the mafia for the lynch of an unknown. Not even a scummy-seeming unknown.

Also, I am nowhere near as awesome as Lucy Lawless. If I were, Cent would've been a demon.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't suppose that red text meant anti-town, did it?

Also, I am nowhere near as awesome as Lucy Lawless. If I were, Cent would've been a demon.

In my experience CDF tends to write deaths in red even if they are town. But it is NOT consistent.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?125686-Swords-and-D20-s-Minimafia-The-City-of-Doors&p=2426105&viewfull=1#post2426105

In this post, I was attacked (in red) but I was townie. In a previous writeup involving White_Eyes, the text was blue. He was a townie as well. So it is curiously not consistent.

[Secura]

You could try a Total War game.

I utterly fail at strategy games; while I'm patiently building up, I'm generally being attacked from the get-go... not my thing. :3

Anyways, Centurion1 informed me via PM that he was, in fact, a roleblocker; CDf's writeup doesn't allude to any information regarding his abilities, however, so the extent to which you accept Cent's claim is up to you. I feel he has no reason to lie now, though. It's a big loss, but we can still overcome the demons. :3

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

6 hours Left. Tick tock.




In my experience CDF tends to write deaths in red even if they are town. But it is NOT consistent.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?125686-Swords-and-D20-s-Minimafia-The-City-of-Doors&p=2426105&viewfull=1#post2426105

In this post, I was attacked (in red) but I was townie. In a previous writeup involving White_Eyes, the text was blue. He was a townie as well. So it is curiously not consistent.


... No comment. But yeah, unless Cent transformed into a demon in the writeup, and I said "you have lynched Cent (insert short description of bad guy, in this case Demon)" then you can safely assume he was innocent

[Centurion1]

Well, I currently need a means to keep my brain honed for my return to university, and mafia is a very fine way to do so (more fun than More Brain Training for sure). Processes of elimination, arithmetic and a healthy dose of logical debate is fantastic for generating brain activity and ensuring I don't return to uni a babbling idiot talking about clothes or shoes in a History lecture.

As for Star Wars, I'm not a massive fan, I just know bits and bobs. I thought all students have large amounts of useless knowledge anyway, from reading too many beermats and such! :D

Also, I like generally like pizza, but find garlic bread to be a viable alternative.

*puts that in british accent.*

yep im in love.

[Double A]

I utterly fail at strategy games; while I'm patiently building up, I'm generally being attacked from the get-go... not my thing. :3

Anyways, Centurion1 informed me via PM that he was, in fact, a roleblocker; CDf's writeup doesn't allude to any information regarding his abilities, however, so the extent to which you accept Cent's claim is up to you. I feel he has no reason to lie now, though. It's a big loss, but we can still overcome the demons. :3

Auto-resolve and islands are your friends

[Askthepizzaguy]

... No comment. But yeah, unless Cent transformed into a demon in the writeup, and I said "you have lynched Cent (insert short description of bad guy, in this case Demon)" then you can safely assume he was innocent

I could have sworn I saw a comment in here....

Thanks for the clarification.

[Secura]

*puts that in british accent.*

That would depend entirely on the accent; Liverpool, London, Newcastle, Birmingham, Manchester, Yorkshire, Welsh, Scottish, Recieved Pronunciation... it's like saying all Americans sound the same, when y'all don't. :P


Auto-resolve and islands are your friends

Sorry to appear as an idiot on a forum that's based around a strategy game series... but what does those mean? I kinda only know 'turtling' (which is what I am told I do) and 'rushing' (which is what I hate).

[Double A]

TW games are very different from regular strategy games. It's kind of like Civ's campaign map with real time battles.

And the AI never invades islands unless the vikings and the Muslims are drinking beer together, on a blue moon, when the cow people of Uranus have descended from the stars.

Auto-resolve is where your army fights another army, and you are either too unskilled, lazy, or in a hurry to fight it yourself. It's like an Excel spreadsheet fight that takes place in a loading screen.

[Secura]

And the AI never invades islands unless the vikings and the Muslims are drinking beer together, on a blue moon, when the cow people of Uranus have descended from the stars.

The last strategy games I played were Battle For Middle-Earth II (I'm a sucker for a good licensed game) and Red Alert 3 (not bad, except for the fact all the cutscenes are fanservice for male gamers :sweatdrop:).

When playing on levels with major amounts of water and little landmass, I would have the AI sending naval/amphibious units at me constantly, even at lower difficulty levels. The harder difficulties would end up with me losing pretty quickly, and players... well I'd be rushed in the middle of building my base. D:

I prefer video games where I can enjoy what I'm doing and not worry too much about being utterly dominated by people who're far, far better than I am; shooters, fighting games and strategy are generally out the question as a result. Co-Op or single-player are my preference. :3

[johnhughthom]

That would depend entirely on the accent; Liverpool, London, Newcastle, Birmingham, Manchester, Yorkshire, Welsh, Scottish, Recieved Pronunciation... it's like saying all Americans sound the same, when y'all don't. :P


Well said, I constantly grind my teeth and move on when someone says British accent.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Time to take this to an off-topic thread. We should stay focused.

[Secura]

Well said, I constantly grind my teeth and move on when someone says British accent.

Exactly!

I'd love to hear what the world's interpretation of a British accent actually is! I get the feeling it's going to be Recieved Pronunciation, don't you?

Also, sorry Pizza.

*slinks away for the rest of the night phase*

[johnhughthom]

Time to take this to an off-topic thread. We should stay focused.

Ohh listen to Mr I never post off topic irrelevant stuff to take the towns focus away.

:rolleyes:

And yes Secura, I believe it is Recieved Pronunciation they have in mind.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Again:

TICK TOCK TICK TOCK

(did you all get the picture? :brood:)

[Centurion1]

no i understand the difference i have cousins in wales and have spent time there.

that said they all sound lovely to an ignorant american such as myself.

but yes received pronunciation is the imagined accent. I do like a scottish or melodic welsh accent myself though

edit i assume many of you havent turned in night orders

[Thermal]

I just read through this thread and honestly wish I hadn't bothered now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I worry that by pointing out that people haven't sent in orders, a clue is being given as to who has night action abilities.

:sad:

[johnhughthom]

Silly host.


Looks through inactive players.

[Thermal]

oh ****, thanks for reminding me pizza

I'll have ATPG baked tonight, don't be tight on the tomato puree and i want plenty of pepperoni, then cut a slice out of him and eat, as all good pizza infused cannibalistic-targeted foods should be consumed within 12 minutes of preparation, naturally.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I worry that by pointing out that people haven't sent in orders, a clue is being given as to who has night action abilities.

:sad:

Nope :beam:

[Centurion1]

but who is really inactive now.......

[Askthepizzaguy]

That's my point.

We obviously know that myself and Renata and john and.... etc, all are paying attention to the thread, know it is night phase, and have had a chance to send in orders.

Then, we have people I haven't heard from in a while as the more likely candidates. So, that's too much information. Better is to simply say you have to extend the round for personal reasons.

That is, if I might offer input here, my lord.

[Secura]

Alternatively, you could opt not to extend the round at all; if they haven't sent their orders in, so be it.

[Centurion1]

Alternatively, you could opt not to extend the round at all; if they haven't sent their orders in, so be it.

honestly i agree with this it makes slackers like moi more active.

[Secura]

I just dislike people signing up (thus committing themselves to the game) and then refraining from posting/sending in orders... don't want to ruffle any feathers by saying that, just my two cents. :<

You could argue that the entire reason I won Noblesse Oblige was because the three Selecao remaining (Cent, taka and Sprig) all forgot to process their night orders. I'm happy I won, yes, but it would have been better had I overcome them honestly rather than simply winning by exploting that failure to act.

[Double A]

Yeah I love this, it makes me look like a good player.

Also, what's Received Pronunciation?

[Centurion1]

just my two cents. :<

ouch unintentional im sure but still touche madam.

[Secura]

No insult intended, just wanted to poke people into sending their orders or post more. There's no real merit in winning a game by remaining silent the entire way through. That sucks.


Also, what's Received Pronunciation?

You might refer to it as "Queen's English".

[Double A]

And I might not?

[Secura]

Well, I don't know what you call it in Mount Doom, but those are the two names I know it by. :3

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Night 1 End

Balthazar readied his bow, The Enchanted arrow sizzling and crackling on the bow string.
Revenge was going to be the elves! Was Balthzar’s only thought. He raised the bow towards the Bar, Waiting in silence for the orc party he had watch enter leave. A figure stepped out from around the bar, heading from the town cemetery. Balthazar was perplexed, and moved his bow to point towards this new target. The figure moved quickly, obvious intent on returning somewhere.

Well, this orc is not going anywhere! The elf thought grimly For only a bloodthirsty orc would be about at this time of night. (Irrational thinking FTW!) He held his breath, and aimed just above the targets head. The arrow whistled towards the target, the 60ft disappearing in an instant. It slammed into the Figured throat, causing him to howl in pain.

But Balthazar had a look of terror on his face. When the arrow had hit, the figures cloak had raised…… Balthazar then knew his folly. Even in the dark He could recognize the face of his master, Orion. He ran towards the downed figure, Tears swelling in his eyes as he threw down his bow and arrows.

Orion was near death, the arrow having blasted and then seared a hole into his windpipe. He wheezed, obviously in extreme agony. Balthazar held his masters head, pleading that he was so sorry, and that Orion could not die.

“Master….. No…. I couldn’t have. Please…. You can’t die.” His tears dripped down his long nose. Orion hacked a glob of blood His breath becoming shorter and shallower
“Don’t…… worry….. Balthazar…. It’s our way. Life…. ends in death. Keep fighting….” Orion died in Balthazar’s arms. The old elf went to his death smiling.

Orion the Elven Druid has been Killed (Double A)



Balthazar waited in the road cradling his master for some time. His eyes were distant, and he sobbed slightly. Broken, so broken that he did not notice the man walking up from behind.

“Silly little elf.” Reenkis laughed, licking a large claw on his left hand. “You need to be FAR more careful where you point your little bow. But hey, no worries. I am willing to put you out of your misery right here and now! But before I do, there’s one thing I want you to know first. I did not kill your other elf friend.” Reenkis Grinned widely “That was the orcs of this town. I have to admit. I respect them for that, Very conniving. But your squabbles mean little to me. I am here for one person above all. And he is not you.”

Reenkis Pulled a Trident from his spiked back, admiring the wicked things points. His Face beamed, his black scales shimmering in the moonlight. He punched out with the trident, and Balthazar did not even groan, simply smiling sadly. A single tear fell from his eye.

Reenkis glared at the elf “No screams? Fine, Ruin my fun.” He shimmered and dissapered, leaving the Trident lodged in the elfs back.

Balthazar knelt there, the wound turning black and charring as the trident worked its magic. Still he did not scream.

“Times are changing.” He said flatly, and The Trident sent a Black wave of flame blossoming from the wound, Burning Balthazar to nothingness.

Balthazar the Elven Ranger has been killed (Yaropolk)


Alive: 14/17
White_eyes:D
Captain Blackadder
Khazaar
johnhughthom
Askthepizzaguy
Thermal Mercury
Secura
Joooray
Renata
Methos
Atheotes
Beskar
A very super market
Autolycus


Lynched: 1
Centurion1


Killed: 2
Yaropolk
Double A



Start Day 2, It will end on March 2nd, at 9:00 PM EST

[Renata]

I think I'll begin the day with a nice juicy vote on Thermal Mercury, whose vote for me in the midst of Centurion vs No-Lynch looks plausibly like avoidant behavior, and who replied with this when Secura questioned the vote (referring to me as either a brave townie or a stupid mafia, heh):


Your probably right, it was just a vote based on what I saw, I certainly didn't see Renata to be under a large amount of pressure so it couldn't harm to apply some. It probably looks like I was sticking up for centurion a little to much (I don't want this to bite me later in the game) so just to clarify, I don't stick up for his suicide vote, if he is innocent hes being a bad townie right now.

Why so concerned for what other people think of you later? And why ingratiate yourself with Secura without changing your vote accordingly?

[Renata]

Forgot the vote again:

vote: Thermal Mercury

[Secura]

Secura questioned the vote (referring to me as either a brave townie or a stupid mafia, heh)

Because only a foolish mafia would draw attention to themselves by deviating from no lynch; therefore, I guessed that you were a townie looking to stir up some more voting. I felt that someone voting for you didn't make sense, and thus took Thermal to task for doing so.


Your probably right, it was just a vote based on what I saw, I certainly didn't see Renata to be under a large amount of pressure so it couldn't harm to apply some. It probably looks like I was sticking up for centurion a little to much (I don't want this to bite me later in the game) so just to clarify, I don't stick up for his suicide vote, if he is innocent hes being a bad townie right now.

Renata didn't really need to be placed under any sort of pressure; to the contrary, anyone who voted for her would have stuck out like a sore thumb for leaping upon such an 'easy' target and fallen under pressure themselves.

I'm going to stick by my vote from the previous round, and thus I vote: Thermal Mercury.

[Beskar]

I randomly found this when I googled my username.
https://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9338/beskarholfinalo.gif

[autolycus]

I don't really have much to go on, but my suspicion is somewhat on Secura, because that was the last person centurion1 had suspicion of. However, I think the vote switcher may well not be among those who voted for centurion1, because switching the vote to get what they wanted done kept their name off the record there. Therefore, I'm going to start off by saying vote:AVSM

[Captain Blackadder]

And I might not?

Upper class english accent the kind that Prince Charles and those kind of people speak.

[White_eyes:D]

I have a "gut" feeling on AVSM...Vote:AVSM (Better to keep a BIG bandwagon on someone to make that vote-switcher not mess around and lynch someone else at the last minute:furious3:)

[Secura]

I don't really have much to go on, but my suspicion is somewhat on Secura, because that was the last person centurion1 had suspicion of.

I think the last person he gave the finger of suspicion to was actually Renata, but it's swings and roundabouts, really. Barking entirely up the wrong tree.

His suspicion was essentially founded upon the fact that I voted for him after what appeared to be a scumtell; a mafia role-claiming to attempt to keep himself alive until the night phase. The other perspective was that he was simply a very foolish townsperson. Would you have taken the chance that he was simply a townie after such a public claim?

I chose not to, and while I regret that Cent was a townie, I do not regret the logic behind the vote on him, as I'm sure others would attest to also.


I have a "gut" feeling on AVSM...Vote:AVSM (Better to keep a BIG bandwagon on someone to make that vote-switcher not mess around and lynch someone else at the last minute:furious3:)

Mmmmhmmm. C'est intéressant.

I'm curious as to what this gut feeling of yours is based upon and why there should be a 'big bandwagon' on AVSM; there's much sounder reasoning behind the votes of Thermal Mercury, really.

[White_eyes:D]

"gut feelings" can't be explained.....but I am right almost 80% of the time:bounce:

TH is acting scummy:inquisitive:....but I would rather have two suspects up there then just one...it might make one of them "crack" and reveal:smoking:

[Joooray]

That's weird. One would think that the different races would know the others of their kin. Either Yaro made a big mistake or we have a person with the ability to switch people in the game. :shrug:

Anyway, I support the pressure on TM, at least there is more to go on than W_E:D gut feeling, no offense. :grin:
So, Vote: Thermal Mercury.

[White_eyes:D]

My gut feeling has never lead me wrong....~:mecry:

[Beskar]

My gut feeling has never lead me wrong....~:mecry:

:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

[White_eyes:D]

:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
Parasite was just MADE to screw with your "gut feelings", so it doesn't count:stare:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Johnhughthom

You are no townie.

[Khazaar]

I´ll Vote: ThermalMercury until he replies to the accusations, it´s better than a randomvote. I can´t really work with gut instinct, facts are much better...

[Joooray]

Vote: Johnhughthom

You are no townie.

What makes you think that?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Captain Blackadder, that post so obviously contains a codeword for some evil demon related grouping.

This post.

The round had already been decided. 5 votes and 4 votes, IIRC... yet he's voting for someone he knows won't get lynched. With a silly reason, to boot.

[Joooray]

This post.

The round had already been decided. 5 votes and 4 votes, IIRC... yet he's voting for someone he knows won't get lynched. With a silly reason, to boot.

Alright, I see, forgot about that.
I still think the pressure should stay on TM for now though, let's see how he explains himself. But it can only help if there is some pressure on other people as well.

[johnhughthom]

This post.

The round had already been decided. 5 votes and 4 votes, IIRC... yet he's voting for someone he knows won't get lynched. With a silly reason, to boot.

Interesting, I am part of a townie group that used codewords to recognise each other. I was working on the assumption there were other townie groups and was trying to flush somebody out. The fact you seem to be unaware of the use of codewords makes me wonder if you are scum.

Vote: Atpg

Like the dwarves, especially that drunken oaf who roleblocked me by singing outside my room last night. I don't have any night abilities and your serenade was a wasted effort. Any chance this dwarf has the courage to come out and back me?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Interesting, I am part of a townie group that used codewords to recognise each other. I was working on the assumption there were other townie groups and was trying to flush somebody out. The fact you seem to be unaware of the use of codewords makes me wonder if you are scum.

Vote: Atpg

That sounds plausible, actually. I assume there are others who could verify that.

unvote, vote: abstain while I rethink this.

[Secura]

Like the dwarves, especially that drunken oaf who roleblocked me by singing outside my room last night. I don't have any night abilities and your serenade was a wasted effort. Any chance this dwarf has the courage to come out and back me?

You recieved a PM stating that you were roleblocked, then? A curious thing to be informed as such if you have no night abilties. You may not have night abilities, but you could have an ability that works during the day, no?

Also, I have been in contact with the Dwarf you are referring to and they are unlikely to claim in public. That's like running across the 38th Parallel spouting anti-Korean expletives; they'd just be begging to get killed.

For what it's worth, I don't think you're guilty JHT.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Like the dwarves, especially that drunken oaf who roleblocked me by singing outside my room last night. I don't have any night abilities and your serenade was a wasted effort. Any chance this dwarf has the courage to come out and back me?

You got roleblocked? How many roleblockers are in this game, if we are to take Centurion1 seriously, that's at least two so far.

I echo the "don't reveal" sentiment. It's not worth it folks.

[johnhughthom]

Actually that's all I wanted Secura, for the Dwarf to contact a third party, wouldn't want a townie role compromised. I have actually heard the dwarf may have been protecting me, I assumed it was a roleblock from the pm.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd re-read that message. I have reason to believe the defender was defending someone else last night.

[Secura]

You were under their protection, yes.

Though the singing was an unfortunate by-product of having a stout Dwarf guard you; I hope you sleep more soundly in the future.

I'll also add that I, too, haven't heard anything about secret codes and such. Quite baffled by that notion, personally. :3

[johnhughthom]

I'd re-read that message. I have reason to believe the defender was defending someone else last night.

The dwarf was singing outside my room and checking on me every so often so it must have been a protection on me. Any idea why Secura, I would have thought the dwarves would have been protecting themselves?

[Renata]

(For the person in this game who tried to PM me, my PM box is now clear.)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Then it would seem we have at least a pair of defenders.

[Secura]

What gives you the idea that Dwarves would only protect themselves?

The game doesn't need to be based upon race or creed; we're all working together to fight these demons.

And by sword, axe or bow, we'll get them too. :3

[Beskar]

We will stop these evils, and I shall do everything in my power to find and expose the evil one!

You have my word.

[Askthepizzaguy]

john, usually in CDF's games when someone is roleblocked, whether they were trying to murder or commit an action or not, there's a paragraph or so of story stating that. I don't expect it would happen in a defender's case, though... it sort of ruins the whole point. He's not done that before.

I think you were defended.

[Beskar]

You was meant to reply "and my bow."

[Secura]

AND MAH AXE!

That better for you, Beskie? :P

[Askthepizzaguy]

Alright, I see, forgot about that.
I still think the pressure should stay on TM for now though, let's see how he explains himself. But it can only help if there is some pressure on other people as well.

vote: Joooray

You're one of the people I have no information on, and there is plenty of pressure on Thermal already.

[Yaropolk]

That's weird. One would think that the different races would know the others of their kin. Either Yaro made a big mistake or we have a person with the ability to switch people in the game. :shrug:


The host left out the paragraph where Balthazar chokes the living bejesus out of Orion for complete lack of familiarity with the concept of code words.

[Beskar]

The host left out the paragraph where Balthazar chokes the living bejesus out of Orion for complete lack of familiarity with the concept of code words.

Perhaps he should branch out more.

[Joooray]

vote: Joooray

You're one of the people I have no information on, and there is plenty of pressure on Thermal already.

Yeah I saw that coming when I was writing about the pressure being applied. :laugh4:
Well anyway, you seem to know an awful lot about all the people in the game then?!

[Thermal]

I think I'll begin the day with a nice juicy vote on Thermal Mercury, whose vote for me in the midst of Centurion vs No-Lynch looks plausibly like avoidant behavior, and who replied with this when Secura questioned the vote (referring to me as either a brave townie or a stupid mafia, heh):



Why so concerned for what other people think of you later? And why ingratiate yourself with Secura without changing your vote accordingly?

Hmm, convenient that your here to stir up trouble as soon as the night ends, very cunning of you, Renata. :bow:

It is also convenient that you only quoted the last paragraph of my reply to Secura, which didn't include your scummy vote:


unvote, vote Centurion1

Because I can.

Nor my reasoning.


Not giving any answer to centurion's thoughts of not lynching anyone, but rather just transferring her vote in OMGUS style.

As for not changing my vote, I didn't see any better candidates, no specifics made me think you were innocent and as so still happy to keep my vote onto you. What I do notice Renata is that you commit OMGUS styled votes at each point possible in this game which seems only to be a vendetta, because I voted for you last round, which overrides any decent reasoning you would otherwise of had (not that it took anyone here long to follow in your footsteps).

vote: joooray
FoS: Khazzar

Mindless swaying with the first piece of weak reasoning in sight, starting a bandwagon. (3rd vote is a bandwagon) at least Secura thought her vote out more.

[Secura]

Well anyway, you seem to know an awful lot about all the people in the game then?!

When Orwell wrote Nineteen Eighty-Four, he was actually prophesising the coming of an omnipotent young gentleman who would be eponymously named "Pizza Guy".

Go figure. :P

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yeah I saw that coming when I was writing about the pressure being applied. :laugh4:
Well anyway, you seem to know an awful lot about all the people in the game then?!

What's funny is that I now have info on you as well.

So now I shall be accusing atheotes, another person I have no info on.

unvote, vote: atheotes

I love this job.

[Methos]

I find it odd that Vote: AVSM hasn't said anything yet today. I'm unsure about TM just yet, and going to wait until the discussion plays out more.

OOC: This game isn't using WOG rules, is it? I didn't see any in the OP.

[Beskar]

I know everyones role in this game except for two people.

That is pretty amazing, isn't it?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I know everyones role in this game except for two people.

That is pretty amazing, isn't it?

That's a sign that something, somewhere, has gone disastrously wrong for someone's team.

[Renata]

It's probably BS.

TM, if you want to characterize my votes as OMGUS/vendetta that's your prerogative, but I really thought you knew me better than that. There was a close question of Centurion vs. no-lynch at the time you voted, and you chose "neither". Mafia do that sort of thing disproportionately. And you didn't address the defensive "I hope this doesn't bite me later"/"I know this looks like I'm defending Centurion" business.

[Askthepizzaguy]

well it's awfully silly to vote for atheotes when he's limp as a ragdoll and there's a berzillion (trademark 2010 Askthepizzaguy) votes on Thermal.

unvote, vote: AVSM might actually cause more pressure and thus make more sense.

[Beskar]

Just worked out the entire game. I am going to send it to CDF to prove it. :beam:

If you want information, I can be your friend.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just worked out the entire game. I am going to send it to CDF to prove it. :beam:

If you want information, I can be your friend.

You know where my inbox is. :bow:

[Secura]

Just worked out the entire game. I am going to send it to CDF to prove it. :beam:

If you want information, I can be your friend.

Beskie just walked across the 38th Parallel stating that he hates both Kim Jong-Il and Lee Myung-bak...

[atheotes]

Just worked out the entire game. I am going to send it to CDF to prove it. :beam:

If you want information, I can be your friend.

Voting for Reenkis might be a good proof as well :wink3:
strange that you havent voted yet. :juggle2:

Vote: Thermal Mercury - trusting the "instincts" of the townie in contact with the defender :book: