WoLT: OOC thread

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

This is the OOC Thread for Warriors of La Tene. This thread is designed to be a simple chatroom for WoLT players. No important information will ever be posted in here. This thread does not count as a "public thread" for the purposes of the WoLT rules. . In short, this thread has no official relationship to WoLT in any capacity. It is simply a chatroom.

[The Celtic Viking]

*sigh* I misspelled Confederate. I will have to ask tincow to change that.


Probably messed up a lot more than that. Tell me where and I will do my best to keep fixing stuff.


:embarassed: just tell me if I need to do something else. Sorry for any mistakes.

The SOT talks about the "Basileus" and the "Chancellor", and in the Treasurer thread you write "Arjo's" - it should be "Arjos'". (The last one being a sign of armageddon, it is not something to take lightly!)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

The SOT talks about the "Basileus" and the "Chancellor", and in the Treasurer thread you write "Arjo's" - it should be "Arjos'". (The last one being a sign of armageddon, it is not something to take lightly!)

gah sorry, fixed.

[/Bean\]

Have we lost contact with the character profiles on the second sign up thread? I can't see what my character was like.

Oh, and I'd very much appreciate it if you uploaded the first save, so I can nick it for screenshots and stuff. Its time we got the writing side of things on the go.

[johnhughthom]

Seconded.


Have we lost contact with the character profiles on the second sign up thread?

TCV must have deleted them from wherever they were hosted, I linked mine to my AAR and it had disappeared.

Just a query regarding the rules,


Verrix
Confederate Influence: 4 + 1 for every in-game influence points


Is this the number the Verrix' votes count for? Seems massively excessive if so.

[The Celtic Viking]

TCV must have deleted them from wherever they were hosted, I linked mine to my AAR and it had disappeared.

Err... no, they must've been deleted by the hosting site. Ugh. I'll just upload the save later and you can check them out yourselves.


Just a query regarding the rules,


Is this the number the Verrix' votes count for? Seems massively excessive if so.

I wouldn't exactly say it's massively excessive seeing that the Vollorix has 3, but 1 for each influence is a bit off. I thought I wrote 1 for every 2 influence points? Of course this can be tweaked.

The rationality behind this is that it's on a confederacy level, not a tribal one, so individual chiefs don't have nearly as much say as the Verrix and Vollorixes. This may not be the same within the tribes themselves, though.

By the way, CP, go fix up the rules so it looks more... presentable. Give it proper headings and all that.

[/Bean\]

Might I suggest that we also decide the reasons behind the starting positions of each of the characters, and move them if needs be. For example, TCV's character could have taken a force to Versontio in order to secure their alliegence, and that has just been achieved.

[johnhughthom]

I wouldn't exactly say it's massively excessive seeing that the Vollorix has 3, but 1 for each influence is a bit off. I thought I wrote 1 for every 2 influence points? Of course this can be tweaked.


Up to a maximum of 9 then, still seems excessive as with 9 players the Verrix will only be outvoted if everybody else votes against him (3 for Vollorix, 7 other players = 10) and FLs always get 10 influence pretty quickly. How did it work in WoTB?

[The Celtic Viking]

But since we've decided we aren't going to use the IG FL thing, you really can't use that in this calculation, so even if that's true it's not really relevant. No, not even in the beginning: I sincerely doubt that Aneirin will get 10 influence before he dies, as I've never seen that happen in my numerous games with him.

The first saved game has been uploaded so you can check around (but not change anything). This reminds me: should we cheat and give ourselves 5000 mnai and play it like the game started now, since I didn't spend anything except on RGBs?


Might I suggest that we also decide the reasons behind the starting positions of each of the characters, and move them if needs be. For example, TCV's character could have taken a force to Versontio in order to secure their alliegence, and that has just been achieved.

Everyone is free to decide both where they start and why, so long as it's within the confederacy's borders. Of course, everyone's also free to give up this decision for popular vote...

If by "securing their alliegence (sic)" you mean strong-arming the Sequani, then that's not something I can consent to. (Not the least because, IIRC, the Sequani garrison is actually stronger than my force... I mean, sure, I am an awesome character and my mere presence does demand respect and obedience, but still.) We're supposed be be real allies, not master and subject, and as happened in history, the Sequani could (and with all probability, will) assume the leadership at some point. This they can do without using any devious scheme of their own, which isn't in line with them being unwilling members.

[/Bean\]

I know it is, but it doesnt have to be forceful alliegence. Your character could basically have gone there saying will you add your troops to mine, and they said yes.

[The Celtic Viking]

Well, seeing as my character's the Verrix and he lead the Confederate army, it would make a whole lot more sense if he came to claim soldiers from you than the other way around. Then again, it could also be that I just went there to inform the Sequani Vollorix of a confederate meeting, or to talk to him about the weather - or I can just choose to start somewhere else.

[johnhughthom]

Just checked the save, the FL influence won't be a problem with Aneirin but I think the issue still stands that a full influence Verrix will be almost impossible to outvote.

I agree we should give ourselves 5000 as we had to move the game on to get the RGBs.

[The Celtic Viking]

I don't see why we can't accept that, though, having some extremely charismatic god-king ruling the confederacy. It's not like we can't avoid it, and have to elect charismatic people with the IG FL thing. We could set someone who can't/doesn't want to become Verrix as heir and then just elect someone else.

[Hotseat_User]

isn't the SOT-thread the same as TCV's new char-Tread? please tell me about the little(?) differences!

[/Bean\]

The only difference I see is you're supposed to use the new one to say about the history and placement of your character, which I always do in my SOT's anyway, so not much difference really

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Well, We should probably actually finish voting for our Vollorix, :laugh4: We are going to need one to check TCV :beam:

[Hotseat_User]

uhhmmm since Aneirin saved Belenos - he will vote for him - for time of beeing

*edit* and why the heck are CP and so Sequani? I do'nt get it. they have Arverni traits too?

[The Celtic Viking]

I divided people into Sequani/Arverni mostly based on the players, rather than the characters. For one thing keeping the tribes as closely matched as possible makes for a more even and interesting game. If I'd have gone by the traits, it'd have been like 1 Sequani vs... well, almost all others would be Arverni, and say Shylence, who has a Caturige, would be tribe-less.


isn't the SOT-thread the same as TCV's new char-Tread? please tell me about the little(?) differences!

The only difference I see is you're supposed to use the new one to say about the history and placement of your character, which I always do in my SOT's anyway, so not much difference really

The SOT post is for the sake of the Verrix when he sorts out the save, so he can easily find the building or movement orders etc., and I'd like to keep it that simple. Speeds things up to only have the relevant stuff there, and the history etc. elsewhere.

[/Bean\]

But I worship my SOT posts! You know that, TCV!

Also, can I request a transfer? I was rather hoping to start in Vesontio. I have a decent storyline to keep to up there.

And on that note, how are we deciding who's in charge of where/who's who within the two tribes? Because I can't really write about who I am yet because I don't yet know what I'm doing.

[The Celtic Viking]

If there's any sense in ye, boy, ye'll start worshipping your Verrix this instant! I will tolerate no more blasphemy from you!


Also, can I request a transfer? I was rather hoping to start in Vesontio. I have a decent storyline to keep to up there.

Sure thing. Put it in your SOT (*wink wink*) and I'll teleport you there. The offer's up for anyone else, too.


And on that note, how are we deciding who's in charge of where/who's who within the two tribes? Because I can't really write about who I am yet because I don't yet know what I'm doing.

Well, you can talk it out with your tribemates and come to an agreement that way, or I can decide everything for you. You can trust me. I won't be partial. ~;)

[/Bean\]

Can we have inter tribes as well? Like, I'd kinda like to be the leader of my own little tribe (probably none or nonefornow other players) within the land of the Sequani, but don't want the responsibility (or combat with CDF ;D) of the whole area.

And continuing that thought, can we have our own little forts with a couple or more units to represent our own little tribes? But they all come together to form the bigger armies?

[johnhughthom]

I guess we need a separate sequani thread.

[The Celtic Viking]

Can we have inter tribes as well? Like, I'd kinda like to be the leader of my own little tribe (probably none or nonefornow other players) within the land of the Sequani, but don't want the responsibility (or combat with CDF ;D) of the whole area.

You'll have to explain a little better what exactly you're proposing here, and how this would actually work. Keep in mind that we went from three to two tribes because we are too few to get adequate competition with only 3 members.


And continuing that thought, can we have our own little forts with a couple or more units to represent our own little tribes? But they all come together to form the bigger armies?

You can make forts all you want, but they will signify no more than that.

[/Bean\]

I just thought the big tribes would be made up of lots of smaller tribes from different valleys, areas etc. and the fort could represent another, smaller city/town in the province that I was the head of, but subject to the head of my tribe, the Sequani

[The Celtic Viking]

So your proposition is that you can build a fort and call it a "subtribe"... with "subtribe" meaning only "I am in command of a fort", in practical terms? Is that really it? If so, I see no problem with it.

I am not enthusiastic about the name "subtribe" here, though. "Town", "village" or something along those lines seem to be more apt.

[/Bean\]

Thats the one :)

[HunGeneral]

So your proposition is that you can build a fort and call it a "subtribe"... with "subtribe" meaning only "I am in command of a fort", in practical terms? Is that really it? If so, I see no problem with it.

I am not enthusiastic about the name "subtribe" here, though. "Town", "village" or something along those lines seem to be more apt.

Sounds like a good idea if you ask me. If for nothing else then for a little role playing...

[The Celtic Viking]

Yeah, by all means, go for it. ~:)

[Hotseat_User]

As only the Sequani have held elections for their Vollorix - I'd like to hold one too! Could'a be better if TCV might is seperatet a little :clown:
on that note. will the elected Verrix stay Verrix even if his tribe has a new Vollorix?

[The Celtic Viking]

As only the Sequani have held elections for their Vollorix - I'd like to hold one too! Could'a be better if TCV might is seperatet a little :clown:

Well, the thought was when we made the rules that the Verrix would have the place of Vollorix in his own tribe, since the Verrix would be chosen from amongst the Vollorixes. This we (me, CP and CDf) agreed would work when we thought we would have 3 tribes. Since we won't, maybe this should be changed, though I don't know how. Should the Verrix stand outside all tribes, and be... "tribeless"? Should he being Verrix be completely irrelevant in the tribal assembly, even if this means that the same man who leads the Confederation is a messenger boy in his own tribe?


on that note. will the elected Verrix stay Verrix even if his tribe has a new Vollorix?

Yes. Yes of course.

[/Bean\]

Maybe he can be voted from the Vollorix, head of his tribe, to Verrix, to head of all the tribes, and thus his former post as head of the single tribe is replaced by another. Meaning CP and CDF as Tribe leaders, and TCV as Tribes Leader...The 's' is SO important

[Hotseat_User]

Should the Verrix stand outside all tribes, and be... "tribeless"? Should he being Verrix be completely irrelevant in the tribal assembly, even if this means that the same man who leads the Confederation is a messenger boy in his own tribe?

Well to my impression the Verrix would also stay elected as his tribes Vollorix. What better than a godking as tribeleader?

My question was just - if one wants to be Vollorix of the Arverni - must he "kill" Aneirin? Cause I think this is a wrong way. And bacause this I'd rather say it is possible to elect a new Vollorix trough tribe-assembly. I just think one has to have the possibillity - and not have to join an other tribe or open his own one. Then we could just play with the tree's intended first.

*edit*
Oh and yes - I second Beans proposal. But only that the Verix' Vollorix post is to be newly decided. And the tribe also could elect the Verrix as their Vollorix. Just no 'mustbe-personalunion' of the posts Verrix/Vollorix.

[The Celtic Viking]

Maybe he can be voted from the Vollorix, head of his tribe, to Verrix, to head of all the tribes, and thus his former post as head of the single tribe is replaced by another. Meaning CP and CDF as Tribe leaders, and TCV as Tribes Leader...The 's' is SO important

Err, I don't think the Arverni will have a Sequani as their Vollorix. ~;)

Anyway, H_U, my Swede-sense tells me that you're in favour of re-electing the Vollorix upon the older one being elected Verrix, as are you, Bean. None of you seem to answer the directly following question, though: what happens then with the Verrix in relation to his tribe? I mean, does he still take part in the inner-tribal gatherings and sessions? Does he still vote? If so, from what position and with what power does he do this? Is he a regular tribesman within his tribe (thus "demoted" there from Vollorix to... something else), should we create a special "Verrix" state within the tribe, despite the fact that Verrix is a strictly Confederate rank? Will he be viewed as not part of a tribe anymore?

[Hotseat_User]

your swede-sense is right. :-)

shure he stays within the relations of his tribe! it's just that he has another post for the tribeS.

[HunGeneral]

I think we should keep the Verrix as the Volorix of his tribe for now. Although it could be possible for the Verrix to name a Temporary volorix for governing the tribes lands while he is away leading the Army of the confederation.

[/Bean\]

Trial and error

[johnhughthom]

I think we should keep the Verrix as the Volorix of his tribe for now

Agreed.

Happy birthday to the Verrix.:birthday2::birthday2::barrel:

[The Celtic Viking]

Agreed.

Then I say that's what we'll do. Not that I'm biased, or anything. :saint:


Happy birthday to the Verrix.:birthday2::birthday2::barrel:

Cheers, mate. That's one more year the world owes me for. :2thumbsup:

[Hotseat_User]

Then I say that's what we'll do. Not that I'm biased, or anything. :saint:

it's not like that i want another one but just to have the chance - as stated above. So I'll uhhhm third' it. :-D

and all good things for the next year from me TCV!!!

[The Celtic Viking]

Thank you, my friend, but I'm afraid it got off with a bad start. We lost against Slovakia. :daisy:

[Hotseat_User]

uhhh - I'm afraid there is no lower bracket to make a comeback? But I'm pretty shure 'our' team is out of the turney also.

Now back to OOC: Is everybody ready or should we pm some? :smash:

[The Celtic Viking]

I have started up the thread for our (Arverni) tribe to hold our gatherings (sessions) in. Hopefully I haven't made too many errors, but if you see any, point them out here, not in that thread.

If the Sequani can finish up electing their Vollorix (if not, I'll step in and appoint CDf, since he's favoured by most who has posted their opinion - in fact, everyone but himself :laugh4:), they can create their own thread like it... and then I think we can begin. :yes:

[johnhughthom]

If the Sequani can finish up electing their Vollorix (if not, I'll step in and appoint CDf, since he's favoured by most who has posted their opinion - in fact, everyone but himself :laugh4:), they can create their own thread like it... and then I think we can begin. :yes:

I think only CP hasn't voted, so unless CP votes for himself CDf is elected. Come on co-host, you're holding everything up!!! :jester:

[Celtic_Punk]

I'm sorry guys, I've been overwhelmed lately. Civillian life is turning out to be... well :daisy:. I was trying to get into a few schools, but the army told me to :daisy: off since i wasn't accepted to any, which i was led to believe I would get into a university hands down. They just pay for it, you still need to be accepted :/

I've got another game, ArmA2 that I'm creating a clan for, being a founder for thats alot of work, plus this. Today I'm pushing my attention to this, so I'm going to get all this stuff done here and now.

I'm sorry guys!

I vote for CDF

[Hotseat_User]

okay can the other Averni-members just do some sign of attention? or aren't they scaning these threads nowadays? :holmes:

[HunGeneral]

I'm still in although I will need a while before I can get into it the most - (busy with uni) from me we can start as soon as you guys wish.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Gah, Can anyone remind me who is in the Sequani tribe?

.... This is not my weekend.

[/Bean\]

Meeee

[Molinaargh]

Do we only post in the Confederate Council thread when there is a meeting?

If so, I think there should be a topic for constant interaction between characters. Or people should start using a thread for that :idea2:


https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7228/celt15.jpg

The Vollorix (?)

I'm not very happy with this one so I'll just leave it here. Should I make a specific thread for these or just post them around?

[johnhughthom]

I think there should be a topic for constant interaction between characters.

I would be happy with some intermittent interaction...

[The Celtic Viking]

Good point, Molin. There's supposed to be another thread which I believe CDf just forgot. In WotB it was called "The Agora". I'm not sure what we should call it here, though. Suggestions?


I'm not very happy with this one so I'll just leave it here. Should I make a specific thread for these or just post them around?

I think a specific thread is a good idea, to keep them all in a centralized place for ease of access.

Regarding this picture, I suspect it's my character, who would be chiefly known as the Verrix. Yeah, it's not your best - he looks old and weak. If you're thinking of redoing him (or if I may make such a request, hur-hum :blush:), may I suggest you make it into a propaganda piece? You know, where he looks determined and strong, wise and with a vision. Dressed royally and clutching a longsword in his hand (maybe holding it like a cane), staring off in the distance with a serious look on his face. You know the deal - like it was made to inspire respect, loyalty, not to mention outright devotion, as the greatest leader on earth.

If you could do that he'd set you up for life. ~;)

[johnhughthom]

The Ale House.

[The Celtic Viking]

Ah yeah, we could take the name from the last building of that line in EB. Good idea!

[/Bean\]

Regarding this picture, I suspect it's my character, who would be chiefly known as the Verrix. Yeah, it's not your best - he looks old and weak. If you're thinking of redoing him (or if I may make such a request, hur-hum :blush:), may I suggest you make it into a propaganda piece? You know, where he looks determined and strong, wise and with a vision. Dressed royally and clutching a longsword in his hand (maybe holding it like a cane), staring off in the distance with a serious look on his face. You know the deal - like it was made to inspire respect, loyalty, not to mention outright devotion, as the greatest leader on earth.

If you could do that he'd set you up for life. ~;)


Oh yeah...great..yeah!...Great idea.. Woo!...



(Stalin Stalin Stalin Stalin Stalin Stalin Stalin Stalin Stalin)

[The Celtic Viking]

Actually, I was thinking more like "Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler" when I wrote that, but either is fine, I guess. ~;)

[/Bean\]

I thought Dylan Moran might copyright me if I'd put Hitler...

[The Celtic Viking]

Dylan... Moran... eh?

Nope, never heard of the guy.

[Molinaargh]

Oh yeah...great..yeah!...Great idea.. Woo!...



(Stalin Stalin Stalin Stalin Stalin Stalin Stalin Stalin Stalin)
Stalin portraits are surprisingly serene.

I didn't have anyone in mind when drawing that. It's not based on any of the RTW portraits and so I generically named it "The Vollorix".

I'll work on the Verrix's portrait as soon as possible! :yes:

[johnhughthom]

Come on guys! My character is feeling poorly, he will have expired before we get started at this rate!!
:furious3::beadyeyes2::sleeping:~:pissed::drama1::vanish:

[The Celtic Viking]

I think someone of you should stand in for CDf now. He had lost his internet connection (all electricity, in fact) due to a heavy storm and only just got it back when I spoke to him last. That was a week ago.

Also, I won't be able to do anything in-game for a while due to Norman security suit :daisy: up my gaming computer. I'll have CP do the Verrix in-game things for me if it still isn't fixed when we get to that point. Maybe I shouldn't even joke about this as a GM, but with this speed I shouldn't think we need worry too much about that. :shame:

If it does, though, Belenos can (if he wish to) expect to command the Confederate Army while I'm indisposed.

[Hotseat_User]

you may here a "yeayah" out of the past? do you? well. I should train my old Arverni mircro-management if it's going to happen <(-_-;<)

[The Celtic Viking]

Well... it's strange. Even though it consistently froze every time I started it up (and trust me, I tried more than 10, perhaps even more than 20 times ^^), but today it worked fine.

I have no idea what's up. I didn't change anything in between.

[The Celtic Viking]

Okay, now it's happening again, with the same consistency. This definitely seems weird to me. :shrug:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Does it happen even when you uninstall and then reinstall the game?

[The Celtic Viking]

The game? Mate, it's my computer, not the game. However, I've found that if I set the date on the computer to the 5th, it works fine. I'm positive it's the Norman security suit that's to blame for this. I don't know how to uninstall that though; I tried before I found out about the resetting date workaround, but it froze before the uninstall could finish, and now it's gone from both add/remove programs, and revo uninstaller.

I don't find any start menu or in-program option to do that either.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Sry, I thought you meant the game. :wall:

[Celtic_Punk]

I hate those security things, they never do any good, and you get viruses anyway.

[Hotseat_User]

uhhmmm - despite TCV's computerproblems, progress anyone? :smile:

[/Bean\]

Hell yeah! I tied my shoelaces all by my selfies today!

[HunGeneral]

uhhmmm - despite TCV's computerproblems, progress anyone? :smile:

Was going to ask the same.


Hell yeah! I tied my shoelaces all by my selfies today!

Looks like I got my asnwer....

[The Celtic Viking]

That's great news, Bean! With some luck - and the gods willing - maybe soon you can complete your potty training too!

As for the game, maybe you should elect a different Vollorix, or at least someone to stand in for CDf until he returns.

[TinCow]

Please remember to abide by Org rules and try to avoid swearing back here. I know I view these threads less often than some mods do in other forums, and I'm also a bit more lax in my policy on language, but it's still my job to enforce the rules when I see violations. To be clear, strong curse words (in any language) need to be avoided, period. MILD curse words are acceptable in the Throne Room in the context of roleplaying, but please avoid using even those words in OOC conversation simply because it runs the risk of creating unintended OOC friction. I know this may seem a bit ridiculous, since you're all friends and whatnot, but the Org has rules and as a moderator it's my job to enforce them.

Thanks for your help. :bow:

[Celtic_Punk]

where did he run off to?!

I long to start this!

[Celtic_Punk]

Fine I'll stand in...... its been ages since a post here, Don't let this die guys!

[Hotseat_User]

/me is here :smash:

[HunGeneral]

me too :-)

[Hotseat_User]

come on guys! Belenos has been kinda bored lately. He wanted to start something. TCV's char should state some orders. Or has smth. to be done within the tribe before?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

So.. this game is dead?

[Celtic_Punk]

i guess so... not much interest was generated. unfortunate this could have been magnificent. I've got alot on my plate too its hard to balance all this jazz ya know?

I didn't think what you did would be so damn hard Ibn

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Balancing your activities in here and in real life can be hard indeed.
It was hard to do it by myself but I had some dedicated players who managed to keep the game going even when I was not around. Without them WotB would've ended much sooner!

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I'm sorry guys, I take responsability for this..... Life got all up in my face, and I had to take a step back. Even now I don't think I am going to be able to be able to be on the org even half as much as I used too.


I apologize to everyone.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I'm sorry guys, I take responsibility for this..... Life got all up in my face, and I had to take a step back. Even now I don't think I am going to be able to be able to be on the org even half as much as I used too.


I apologize to everyone.

[TinCow]

Unless I hear some objections within the next week, I am going to archive this game. :bow:

[The Celtic Viking]

You may as well archive it now. The plan was for Cultured Drizzt fan and Celtic Punk to organize this with my help. That... didn't happen, and with CDf not having time and CP mysteriously disappearing, it's not going to happen.

Apologies for not notifying you about this.