lamellar helmet

[Rien]

Greetings to all

Tis is my first post here so i hope i put it in the wright place, and btw my english isnt that good (great start i made here :laugh4:)

To keep my post short, my question, can someone help me with some research, pictures or sites about lamellar helmets. why? i love to try to recreate ancient armor. i started by making some leather stuf and then jumped to chainmaille (4 in 1 pattern). Now i want to try to make a helmet but i dont have the tools to make a 'normal' one piece helmet. Working on small pieces of metal or leather isnt a issue and mutch more fun to do.

first some pictures of a lamellar helmet
i think it is a hunnic helmet, probable from a nobel cavalry man

http://http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/27/22/29/hunnic10.jpg

http://<a href="http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=4&u=14272229" target="_blank" ><img src="http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/27/22/29/th/hunnic11.jpg" border="0" alt="Image hosted by servimg.com" /></a>

On one of the loading screens from EB there is a (i think) pontic nobleman with a lamellar helmet, does someone have information on that one? beacause it looks like an easy dessign and a good starting point. If im succesfull i will post some pictures here, perhaps i post some pictures of my maille here is someone is interested.

thx
btw: great mod, i love it

[Ferdiad]

IRL or In game?

[Rien]

IRL

[bobbin]

Do you mean this guy?

https://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9660/caratacossakaheavycatapka0.jpg

No idea what they based it on though.

[Rien]

yea, i hoped someone had some historical refence on witch thy based that unit, especially the helmet. Or some other examples of lamellar helmets.

i havent played mutch with eastern factions so there units are unfamilliar to me, so in game examples are also welkom

[Intranetusa]

I was browsing through some sites when I found this pic:

https://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4493/aaadp.jpg

[Rien]

wow, that is real beautiful piece. to bad that the upper part is not visible, but it is a good starting point.

thx

[bobbin]

I think the helmet itself might be based on later Kushan designs as we know they were greatly influenced by the Saka, but i'm not certain.

The Orlat bone plaques (http://www.transoxiana.org/Eran/Articles/Images/mode_01.jpg) would have played a big role in the design as AFAIK they were the main source for the normal Saka cataphracts and the early parthian bodyguard. You can see lamellar hemets depicted in them.

They also liked to depict their leaders on their coins, armoured and riding on a horse, so we get a good idea of the armour but i haven't seen a coin where the helmet is clear.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/AzesIIOnHorse.jpg/268px-AzesIIOnHorse.jpg

[Macilrille]

Now, helmets I cannot help with. But I can say welcome, and if at some point you wish to make a lamellar armour, here is how you go about it (http://www.ask-viking.dk/?page_id=120). Oleg sells lamellar too should you not want to make them all yourself.

[Rien]

thanx
now i only have to find time :-)

@ macilrille: nice site, i cant understand the writing but the pictures are verry good

[Macilrille]

It is my re-enactment group, we are Danes ;-) Oleg is half Russian-half-British though, and sells lamellar online (in fact that is how he makes a living), and can also help in English.