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Thermal
03-07-2010, 00:11
I'm finally getting the mould for my teeth, I'll have braces within weeks.


A breakthrough like this must be discussed.


You may now discuss :bow:

Secura
03-07-2010, 00:18
Having had braces myself a few years ago, I can tell you that it's an utter pain in the bum, so much more work in the mornings and before bed, because you've got to use the special wire brushes to clean between the gaps of the brace itself, in addition to your standard toothbrush.

You'll have to avoid certain foods (harder sweets, chewing gum, certain fruit and such), you won't be able to bite your nails if you do (my brace helped me kick that habit, heh), and you'll have to be really careful not to break the wires (they snap surprisingly easily). And then there's the retainers afterwards which are just as much of a pain, if not moreso.

The end result is a fantastic set of straight teeth though, so it's totally worth it in the end. You'll be glad when you look in the mirror and smile, for sure. :3

Subotan
03-07-2010, 00:35
Retainers or Traintracks?

The former make your jaw ache, whilst the latter make your teeth wreck.

Centurion1
03-07-2010, 00:58
i hate my retainer now. i barely wear it. id probably have a few snaggleteeth if my porblem was more severe thank goodness it isnt

Thermal
03-07-2010, 01:33
Having had braces myself a few years ago, I can tell you that it's an utter pain in the bum, so much more work in the mornings and before bed, because you've got to use the special wire brushes to clean between the gaps of the brace itself, in addition to your standard toothbrush.

You'll have to avoid certain foods (harder sweets, chewing gum, certain fruit and such), you won't be able to bite your nails if you do (my brace helped me kick that habit, heh), and you'll have to be really careful not to break the wires (they snap surprisingly easily). And then there's the retainers afterwards which are just as much of a pain, if not moreso.

The end result is a fantastic set of straight teeth though, so it's totally worth it in the end. You'll be glad when you look in the mirror and smile, for sure. :3

Thanks for the advice, I know it will be a pain but my teeth are just horrible lol :tongue:

@Subotan

Braces, then retainers after, the orthadontist reckons I'll have them for around 18 months, sounds fun....

Edit: Hmm, I posted this on saturday, the appointment is monday, but it is tomorrow now :grin:

Secura
03-07-2010, 01:46
Oh, I almost forgot; if you're a smoker, you'll probably wanna give that up too, it'll only make your teeth a bigger pain to clean each day. :3

pevergreen
03-07-2010, 02:14
So when can i call you Thermal Braceface?

Centurion1
03-07-2010, 02:21
Oh, I almost forgot; if you're a smoker, you'll probably wanna give that up too, it'll only make your teeth a bigger pain to clean each day. :3

ewwww gross thought is that personal experience?

Secura
03-07-2010, 02:52
ewwww gross thought is that personal experience?

It is, yes.

It usually doubled my time cleaning my teeth and braces, so I just quit altogether while going through the orthodontic treatment.

Centurion1
03-07-2010, 02:54
ugh musta sucked i thought you were nineteen or twenty when did you start smoking, in my case i usually meet like 8th graders with braces.

tibilicus
03-07-2010, 02:56
Quick word of advise, make sure to clean your teeth obsessively once you have the braces. I know a guy who had braces and then had them taken off. He didn't really clean his teeth properly though when he had them on and as soon as the braces came off he was left with a mouth full of really yellow teeth. I've never seen anything like it really, seriously, there like the deepest yellow I've ever seen, it isn't nice.

Secura
03-07-2010, 03:01
ugh musta sucked i thought you were nineteen or twenty when did you start smoking, in my case i usually meet like 8th graders with braces.

That might be the case in America, perhaps.

However, in the UK it seems there's increasing trends of children aged from around ten onwards engaging in... well illegal activity such as sex (have to be sixteen), alcohol and cigarettes (have to be eighteen for both); all simply to fit in with what they believe to be the societal norm. There's rising figures for teenage pregnancies, particularly in the south.

I started smoking around twelve or so, as a social thing, and I believe I got my brace... around fourteen or so. It's a bad habit though, and one that's very hard to shake off, but having the brace gave me a bit of discipline and the thought of "why am I putting myself through twice as much work each morning and night for a packet of fags?".

That and it's darn expensive.

Thermal
03-07-2010, 03:02
Quick word of advise, make sure to clean your teeth obsessively once you have the braces. I know a guy who had braces and then had them taken off. He didn't really clean his teeth properly though when he had them on and as soon as the braces came off he was left with a mouth full of really yellow teeth. I've never seen anything like it really, seriously, there like the deepest yellow I've ever seen, it isn't nice.

:uhoh:

I definitely will. :speechless:


@ Secura

I don't smoke, definitely wouldn't want to either. :smiley:

@ Pevergreen

I will find out the exact date on monday I think, lol.

Hooahguy
03-07-2010, 03:34
my deepest condolences.

Azathoth
03-07-2010, 05:43
I hate braces so much. Western culture really needs to place more value on white teeth than straight teeth. Or develop better braces.

Hooahguy
03-07-2010, 06:21
I hate braces so much. Western culture really needs to place more value on white teeth than straight teeth. Or develop better braces.

white teeth are nothing with a crooked smile.

Fragony
03-07-2010, 06:50
You will look like a terminator, but with braces

Azathoth
03-07-2010, 07:44
Would you rather she had straight teeth or white teeth?

https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/moonbon-1.jpg

Megas Methuselah
03-07-2010, 07:59
Would you rather she had straight teeth or white teeth?

https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/moonbon-1.jpg

I was hoping you'd post a pic of a real girl. It'd be more shocking, you know? :smile:

Azathoth
03-07-2010, 08:13
You could just take a photo of yourself. :smartass:

Bad ribs aside, here's a pro: https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/womantooth.jpg

And a con: https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/very-ugly-women-teeth-girl-vampire-.jpg

You must choose.

Megas Methuselah
03-07-2010, 09:28
Oh man, I love playing this game!


Ok, given that I must choose, I have to say, I think I'd take the second one; at least she's young, so I'm assuming the only major defect is in her face, whereas the old woman's entire body would be ravaged from old age.

Beskar
03-07-2010, 10:00
Would you rather she had straight teeth or white teeth?

https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/moonbon-1.jpg

Straight teeth.

Hosakawa Tito
03-07-2010, 12:33
Short term pain for long term gain, though it won't seem short at the time. Depending on your age they might have to remove a couple of molars to make room for your wisdom teeth as they come in. The pressure & pain when the doc periodically tightens the wires can be unpleasant, not to mention wearing a "night retainer" when one sleeps to keep the pressure on to gradually move/straighten your teeth. The wires will rub on the inside of your lips & mouth, causing blisters & calluses. I had my braces removed 35 years ago and still have several callus like ridges on the inside of my lower lip and cheeks. If you play sports be prepared for the inevitable bloody lips and tongue from bumps & contact. Have a goodly supply of wax on hand to put on the wires & bands. It helps protect the sore spots till they toughen up, and comes in real handy if a wire pops loose.

Certain foods are verbotten, and you won't want to eat them anyway. Forget anything gooey like taffy, candy apples, gum etc... I used to love popcorn, but the small hulls & unpopped kernels would get jammed in the wires and cause all kinds of trouble. Be careful when you chew. That extra hardware in your mouth can cause one to accidently bite the inside of the lip/cheek.

It's a trial, but if millions of other people can handle it so can you. Good luck Thermal. you poor sod:sweatdrop:

naut
03-07-2010, 12:41
I count my blessings that I have pretty straight teeth. And I'm a Limey! :grin:

Secura
03-07-2010, 14:45
Depending on your age they might have to remove a couple of molars to make room for your wisdom teeth as they come in.

Oh yes, I forgot about this! When I had my braces, I had to have my "4"s removed; so now, at the dentist, it's always "three, four removed gap closed, five..."

When I had them removed though, British dentists were still using anaethestic (whereas now it's just an injection that freezes the gum, sorta), and mein Goht was I sick afterwards. :<

Subotan
03-07-2010, 14:48
Braces, then retainers after, the orthadontist reckons I'll have them for around 18 months, sounds fun....

Grim. I had them the other way round. Tracks were annoying for me especially, as I don't have any adult molars in my head, just milk teeth. Most of them haven't fallen out and work fine, but the ones that had (Well, they were a bit wobbly and I pulled them out for tooth fairy money. This was when I didn't know I had nothing to replace them) left gaps in my teeth. Although they're not visible, they were as annoying as hell with traintacks, as the wire kept popping out.

Thermal
03-07-2010, 14:51
Short term pain for long term gain, though it won't seem short at the time. Depending on your age they might have to remove a couple of molars to make room for your wisdom teeth as they come in. The pressure & pain when the doc periodically tightens the wires can be unpleasant, not to mention wearing a "night retainer" when one sleeps to keep the pressure on to gradually move/straighten your teeth. The wires will rub on the inside of your lips & mouth, causing blisters & calluses. I had my braces removed 35 years ago and still have several callus like ridges on the inside of my lower lip and cheeks. If you play sports be prepared for the inevitable bloody lips and tongue from bumps & contact. Have a goodly supply of wax on hand to put on the wires & bands. It helps protect the sore spots till they toughen up, and comes in real handy if a wire pops loose.

Certain foods are verbotten, and you won't want to eat them anyway. Forget anything gooey like taffy, candy apples, gum etc... I used to love popcorn, but the small hulls & unpopped kernels would get jammed in the wires and cause all kinds of trouble. Be careful when you chew. That extra hardware in your mouth can cause one to accidently bite the inside of the lip/cheek.

It's a trial, but if millions of other people can handle it so can you. Good luck Thermal. you poor sod:sweatdrop:

Hehe, thanks for the info, I'm dreading it now, it says in this leaflet thingy they give you that you can play sport but should wear a mouth guard, I won't be doing that so, hmmm, lol.
I never even considered popcorn, I will miss it. :shame: I'm not so bothered about the pain though (well I will be when I have it) but as you say its for long term gain.

A few people at my school have had them, or still do, they manage so I will. :smiley: Besides I definitely need them and given free dental care runs out when I'm 18, now is the perfect time to get it.

Also, he said I have a few to many teeth at the top, but I may get away with not having any took out, I'll find out very soon...


@ Azathoth

Straight teeth over white teeth, provided they werent like as yellow as tibilicious was talking about :grin:

@ Subotan

If they were popping out doesn't that indicate they didn't fit your teeth properly? These people aren't sounding very reliable to me lol.

@ Secura

Hmmm, the leaflet says no injections, just a mixture of special glues sprays and other things....

naut
03-07-2010, 15:03
Hmmm, the leaflet says no injections, just a mixture of special glues sprays and other things....
It'll be local anaesthetic that will numb some of your mouth. That's what I had when I had my tongue untied.

Viking
03-07-2010, 18:36
For me, having the braces put in place was a truly painful experience. Not sitting in the chair; but the following evening and the next two days or so. Starving felt like a better option than having to chew on something.

Thermal
03-07-2010, 18:54
For me, having the braces put in place was a truly painful experience. Not sitting in the chair; but the following evening and the next two days or so. Starving felt like a better option than having to chew on something.

Hmm, other people I've talked to said that getting the braces fitted isn't as painful as the next few days after also...

Another thing I hadn't considered is that I'll probably talk awkwardly in the first few days too... :juggle:

Hosakawa Tito
03-07-2010, 20:39
The braces shouldn't bother your speech. Your teeth will be pressure sensitive to touch because of the tension on the wires. After every visit when the orthodontist tightens these wires you'll experience this sensitivity for a few days afterward. Depending on one's pain tolerance, sometimes you won't feel like eating anything that involves chewing. Stick to milkshakes, soup, etc... till the discomfort lessens. whiskey would be ideal

Centurion1
03-07-2010, 20:48
That might be the case in America, perhaps.

However, in the UK it seems there's increasing trends of children aged from around ten onwards engaging in... well illegal activity such as sex (have to be sixteen), alcohol and cigarettes (have to be eighteen for both); all simply to fit in with what they believe to be the societal norm. There's rising figures for teenage pregnancies, particularly in the south.

I started smoking around twelve or so, as a social thing, and I believe I got my brace... around fourteen or so. It's a bad habit though, and one that's very hard to shake off, but having the brace gave me a bit of discipline and the thought of "why am I putting myself through twice as much work each morning and night for a packet of fags?".

That and it's darn expensive.

its in america too but smoking isnt quite as popular among youngsters, alcohol and sex of course are.

getting your braces on doesnt hurt. and i never really had trouble after. they like hot cement them on. right after you get the off you will have the sexiest smile ever because they grind off the old gunk and your teeth are absolutely white.

Subotan
03-07-2010, 21:42
If they were popping out doesn't that indicate they didn't fit your teeth properly? These people aren't sounding very reliable to me lol.

Gah, I explained myself badly. The wire that held my traintracks together was suspended across the gaps to reach the molars at the back of my mouth. If I ate something like apple, there was a chance that the food would cause the wire to bend and slip out of the clamp that was attached to my back molars. It took ages to bend the wire back into it's original position.

Secura
03-07-2010, 21:46
its in america too but smoking isnt quite as popular among youngsters, alcohol and sex of course are.

Before we utilised the public smoking ban in summer 2007, the legal age for purchasing cigarettes was sixteen, and so it was fairly easy for schoolkids to get their hands on them. Now it's the same case as alcohol; underage kids sat outside newsagents and off-licenses on their BMXs yelling "oy sweet'eart, can yer buy us some fags?"

Modern Britain... makes you proud. ¬_¬


they like hot cement them on.

I remember that stuff; on one of my incisors, the metal part didn't settle into the glue stuff properly and I was able to spin it around the wire with my tongue. And then one week later when I finally managed to get an appointment, the orthodontist goes "YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED IMMEDIATELY!" as though I was deaf. That guy was a total d-bag.


After every visit when the orthodontist tightens these wires you'll experience this sensitivity for a few days afterward. Depending on one's pain tolerance, sometimes you won't feel like eating anything that involves chewing.

This won't be a problem once you learn the thresholds of what you can and cannot eat/drink, Thermal. Just make sure you factor in the temperature of food as well as the texture; I couldn't eat ice cream for a while after the tightening, for example. :3

Thermal
03-07-2010, 21:48
whiskey would be ideal

I will soon have an excuse to drink. :shifty:


I think I understand now Subotan
Food wise I think I'll just eat porridge things, how about noodles? =P


Appointment is in 17 hours

Secura
03-07-2010, 22:01
how about noodles? =P

You should be fine with those, as they come apart easily enough in the mouth anyway. Make sure they're not piping hot though, major ouchies otherwise! :P


Appointment is in 17 hours

Looking forward to it?

Thermal
03-07-2010, 22:10
You should be fine with those, as they come apart easily enough in the mouth anyway. Make sure they're not piping hot though, major ouchies otherwise! :P



Hmmm, I'm impatient with food too -_-




Looking forward to it?

Lets see, im getting the impressions for the brace, so...

Given that I'm missing maths, and only because I'm missing maths for it, then surprising, yes. :laugh4:

Another thing I noticed last time..., the chairs are so uncomfortable, putting your head on the seat is like slipping into a neck bracer.

Secura
03-07-2010, 22:15
Hmmm, I'm impatient with food too -_-

Oh God, tell me about it! But you'll thank yourself if you just let stuff cool down a little bit first, at least for the first few days after having the brace fitted and subsequent wire-tightening.


Another thing I noticed last time..., the chairs are so uncomfortable, putting your head on the seat is like slipping into a neck bracer.

The seats at my orthodontist were majorly uncomfortable too, but they had televisions in the ceiling, so when I leaned back, I was able to watch Tom & Jerry. Not really adhering to my age, as it were, but anything to take my mind off having metal fixed into my mouth. :P

Thermal
03-07-2010, 22:19
Oh God, tell me about it! But you'll thank yourself if you just let stuff cool down a little bit first, at least for the first few days after having the brace fitted and subsequent wire-tightening.



The seats at my orthodontist were majorly uncomfortable too, but they had televisions in the ceiling, so when I leaned back, I was able to watch Tom & Jerry. Not really adhering to my age, as it were, but anything to take my mind off having metal fixed into my mouth. :P

Well in my orthadontics ceiling I have a reflective surface, so when they tell you to open your mouth and show them your grizzily teeth, you can see what you look like, not pretty and very off putting :laugh4:

Centurion1
03-07-2010, 23:32
its reverse psychology to make you brush your teeth.

how often do people here floss? hmmm i may start a thread

Subotan
03-08-2010, 00:29
I think I understand now Subotan
Food wise I think I'll just eat porridge things, how about noodles? =P

Noodles is a great idea, especially something like noodle soup.

Centurion1
03-08-2010, 00:30
Noodles is a great idea, especially something like noodle soup.

plus you will have lots of energy fromt he carbs! :thumbsup:

Thermal
03-08-2010, 01:54
its reverse psychology to make you brush your teeth.



Its not so much the colour, but the shape of my teeth, I do brush them regulary lol :tongue:

Centurion1
03-08-2010, 01:57
Its not so much the colour, but the shape of my teeth, I do brush them regulary lol

the shape? mine are like little chiclets what are yours like?????????

pevergreen
03-08-2010, 02:18
My teeth are very screwed up. :D

But they dont need braces. :D

In reality its only two of my teeth, along the top, rest are perfectly straight. Would you believe that I've never had anything done?

Very surprising, to me at least.

A Very Super Market
03-08-2010, 06:27
I received and broke free of braces within a year and a half. My teeth are apparently eager to move around, so the dentist left them on for 3 months without adjusting them so that they could actually fix themselves in place. Even so, leaving my retainer off for half a day creates pain when I put them back on and my lower incisors attempt to hold on to their new positions. An aching night later, they return to their proper locations. A lot of effort for nothing, as I could count the number of times I show my teeth a month, with my fingers and toes.

Braces aren't that bad. Just don't eat anything hard or crunchy. I knocked them off quite a few times, after insisting on eating dry pasta. A sad, stupid decision, and a weird adhesive flaking off the metal and enamel.

Thermal
03-08-2010, 17:18
the shape? mine are like little chiclets what are yours like?????????

Sort of teeth a blood hound would have, If I bit you your chances of getting rabies are fairly high.


Anyway, massive shock today, I just had my appointment and they tricked me! Not only were they getting my impressions but they also fitted a brace for my upper teeth, so I now have a brace

waits for pevergreen to call me a braceface*

Its feeling weird, but I'm about 90 minutes in and no pain....yet.... :sweatdrop:

drone
03-08-2010, 17:22
I will soon have an excuse to drink. :shifty:

If you guzzle a lot of booze, make sure you drink lots of water before going to bed. The brackets and wires will do a number on the morning-after dry mouth.

naut
03-08-2010, 17:49
Its feeling weird, but I'm about 90 minutes in and no pain....yet.... :sweatdrop:
Numbness from local aesthetics wear-off after 90 to 120 minutes. If you aren't in much discomfort after that then your pain-threshold is pretty high and you shouldn't have to worry. When I had my tongue untied I was waiting and waiting for the pain to kick in, but it never did. I only experienced a little discomfort when it was supposedly meant to be quite painful as they cut through the muscle, which usually causes severe pain. No doubt braces are different, and the nerves in your teeth are also very sensitive. However, keep your mind off it, do something that requires your attention like a video game/jogging.

Thermal
03-08-2010, 18:13
Numbness from local aesthetics wear-off after 90 to 120 minutes. If you aren't in much discomfort after that then your pain-threshold is pretty high and you shouldn't have to worry. When I had my tongue untied I was waiting and waiting for the pain to kick in, but it never did. I only experienced a little discomfort when it was supposedly meant to be quite painful as they cut through the muscle, which usually causes severe pain. No doubt braces are different, and the nerves in your teeth are also very sensitive. However, keep your mind off it, do something that requires your attention like a video game/jogging.

145 minutes (roughfully) and no pain, I just had some porridge...

Hmm, I hope it stays this way :grin:

I'll just listen to music as I usually do, and go on facebook & this.

One problem I do have is that if I find something funny and do a full smile (with teeth and everything) I find it difficult to get the brace back into my mouth lol. Which is probably why they only fitted one, with two there would be no room at all.

Subotan
03-08-2010, 18:24
Just you wait. The second day is the worst.

Hooahguy
03-08-2010, 18:27
Just you wait. The second day is the worst.

and so is the third.

dont worry. by the second week all is fine.

Thermal
03-08-2010, 18:35
Great...

I'm having chips (in america they might be called thick fries?) I think as it is fairly solid, it will be interesting to see if I eat them easily or not.

The general response tells me it varies a little for each person but get the impression everyone gets the pain...hmm. Anyway I'll shut up about it now.

edit: just had a chip sarnie (thick fries sandwich?) i had to cut it up with a fork, front teeth are sensitive, back teeth are fine, as the nurse said. :wink:

A Very Super Market
03-08-2010, 19:47
Your teeth will be...... sensitive for a while. I dealt with it by using my molars as incisors, slowly tearing apart anything semi-solid. It will be impossible to eat anything you couldn't smush with your pinky.

When your braces hook under your upper lip, you can do two things. Stop smiling immediately by developing a taste for gothic literature, or gain a bad habit of snarling, which is the expression one makes when you push your upper lip farther forward than it should.

Subotan
03-08-2010, 20:33
and so is the third.
Damn it, I was going to tell him that tomorrow.


When your braces hook under your upper lip, you can do two things. Stop smiling immediately by developing a taste for gothic literature, or gain a bad habit of snarling, which is the expression one makes when you push your upper lip farther forward than it should.
Or turn your brace into a sawblade.

Hooahguy
03-09-2010, 03:10
or hook it up to a radio and hear it transmit signals. ir something like that.

Thermal
03-10-2010, 01:29
Just you wait. The second day is the worst.

Second day was fine...

role on day 3!

Subotan
03-10-2010, 10:06
I lied. The third day aches the most.

Thermal
03-10-2010, 19:26
Day 3 was the best yet, role on day 4.


Clearly I have the amazing pain tolerance Psychonaut described, because I am God :smug:

A Very Super Market
03-10-2010, 19:46
Your dentist is doing something wrong.

Thermal
03-10-2010, 20:38
Your dentist is doing something wrong.

Hehe, Well they look like the real thing, Don't get me wrong, I feel pressure and have an ulcer emerging, but no pain. :grin: