WWI: Clash of Empires - Discussion thread [Concluded]

[Ibn-Khaldun]

The 'World War One' game


https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/WWI%20game/gws_georgevaldershot_01.jpg

Current title of the game: World War One: Clash of Empires
Possible starting date: 28th June
Playable factions: United Kingdom, France, Russia, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Ottomans, Italy, United States
Period: From the start of 1914 to the end of 1919 ( 4 turns per year = 24 turns )
Theaters of War: Europe, North-America/Atlantic, German East-Africa
Campaign Map: Hex-based map
Co-Hosts: johnhughthom, woad&fangs

More about the game:
The game is similar to "The Thirty Years War" that I hosted few months ago. Players have the chance to re-battle WWI.
With the new features (tech tree, NPC's, improved economy etc.) and co-hosts I hope this game will better.
There are few blogs about the game but I'll transfer all the information about the game into this thread.
One thing I would like to remind all those who are interested that in this game you don't have to run a country on your own.
Three people(or perhaps more) per faction would be the best solution since that way there will always be someone who could substitute the leader(player who receives my previous turn reports) and send the orders in time.
Also, with co-hosts I hope there wouldn't be any long time pauses between write-ups like there were in TYW.

Questions? Suggestions?


Maps
European map(changed some borders a bit):
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/WWI%20game/drhtdrgbrdmeuroopa_piirid_color_tek.png
Austo-Hungarian, Russian and German borders were changed a bit. Kuwait was given to the British.

American/Atlantic map:
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/WWI%20game/mnybhhfameerika_color_tekst2a.png

German East-Africa:
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/WWI%20game/aytjfgefsaafrika_piirid2a_colors_te.png
Movement/conquering territories/recruitment work differently in this theater..

Transport zones are marked on the map but railways or "minor" cities are not(yet).

The Sign ups are open!

Currently signed up players:
England
1. Centurion1
2. Cultured Drizzt fan

Ottomans
1. Double A

Italy
1. Chaotix

Russia
1. spl1tper50nal1ty

USA
1. Secura

France
1. slashandburn

Austro-Hungary
1. Prince Cobra

Germany
1. Beefy187

Interested:
Thermal Mercury
Subotan

[Subotan]

Give incentives to people to send their orders in early.

[Captain Blackadder]

Include the commonwealth perhapes.

[Centurion1]

include me ill make it memorable. if only saxony could have reached her full power...........

i cant even describe how much im anticipating this game. please tell its not in the summer depending on my university choices i may be a bit busy......

[Secura]

Will the players controlling Russia automatically lose in the first turn (January-March?) of 1918? Will the United States be unable to participate until the second turn (April-June?) of 1917?

Or are you playing this as an alternate history, whereby the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk (and perhaps the Communist Revolution that preceded it) might not happen, for example?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Give incentives to people to send their orders in early.

I'll think about that.


Include the commonwealth perhapes.

New Zealand, Australia, Canada and South-Africa are part of the game. Not on map but they can support with resources and units.


include me ill make it memorable. if only saxony could have reached her full power...........

i cant even describe how much im anticipating this game. please tell its not in the summer depending on my university choices i may be a bit busy......

My plan was to start this in May. So, this means first years of the game will be played during the summer.


Will the players controlling Russia automatically lose in the first turn (January-March?) of 1918? Will the United States be unable to participate until the second turn (April-June?) of 1917?

Or are you playing this as an alternate history, whereby the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk (and perhaps the Communist Revolution that preceded it) might not happen, for example?

It's more like alternate history. Historical events might happen if conditions are close enough but I'm not going to force them on players.
It's the players who take decisions and probably rewrite the history.. at least in this game.
So, Russia will not lose in 1918 and US could join the war before 1917.

[Beefy187]

I'm not sure how my life will be from April onwards.
So I'll just reserve my spot as an audience.

[Centurion1]

My plan was to start this in May. So, this means first years of the game will be played during the summer.

ill make time if i have to ill decline admission to the military academies. you better not disappoint me now, ibn.

Secura, like the last 30yw war game by ibn its a alternate history. for example as saxony i controlled a good chunk of central Europe. I would have had more too.........

[Secura]

It's more like alternate history. Historical events might happen if conditions are close enough but I'm not going to force them on players.
It's the players who take decisions and probably rewrite the history.. at least in this game.
So, Russia will not lose in 1918 and US could join the war before 1917.

Excellent; it's war, but without all the socio-political fallout that comes alongside the combat! :D


I would have had more too.........

...if it wasn't for those pesky Brits! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_C2HJvtRDY) xD

[Centurion1]

HAHAHAHAHA ^ lol no

cdf was the British so of course..........

[Ibn-Khaldun]

ill make time if i have to ill decline admission to the military academies. you better not disappoint me now, ibn.

Secura, like the last 30yw war game by ibn its a alternate history. for example as saxony i controlled a good chunk of central Europe. I would have had more too.........

That kind of expansion will be quite difficult because NPC's can fight back in this game. ~;)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

That kind of expansion will be quite difficult because NPC's can fight back in this game. ~;)



Don't worry. We will find a way :evil:

[Centurion1]

i just want everyone to know ive started drawing up plans for every country depending on who i choose. so you can all give up now.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I have two co-hosts now.
They are johnhughthom and woad&fangs

~:)

[Double A]

ill make time if i have to ill decline admission to the military academies. you better not disappoint me now, ibn.

Secura, like the last 30yw war game by ibn its a alternate history. for example as saxony i controlled a good chunk of central Europe. I would have had more too.........

And I as the Ottomans was richer than Bill Gates if he exchanged all his money into Euros, and then changed them back into dollars when the dollar was weaker. Speaking of which... wait I don't even need to say who I want to play as, do I?


Don't worry. We will find a way :evil:

We'll throw warhammers at them to soften them up!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Speaking of which... wait I don't even need to say who I want to play as, do I?

Montenegro? :shrug:

[Double A]

Yeah, Montenegro...

No, I want some conclusion!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/OttomanJanissariesAndDefendingKnightsOfStJohnSiegeOfRhodes1522.jpg

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Announcement:

I'm looking for some people who could make some signatures for this game.
It would be nice to have 1 signature per country plus 1 general signature.
If You have time then your help is welcomed! :bow:

[Splitpersonality]

I am totally in this game.

I'll be looking out for the sign up thread and hoping I don't miss it :D

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Good to hear.

Also, I plan to show you the European map in this upcoming week.
African and American ones need some more work.

[Secura]

It would be nice to have 1 signature per country plus 1 general signature.
If You have time then your help is welcomed! :bow:

I think the British one should be obvious... "BRITONS! IBN WANTS YOU!" (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Kitchener-Britons.jpg)

[Double A]

Good to hear.

Also, I plan to show you the European map in this upcoming week.
African and American ones need some more work.

Awesome!

I'm antzy with anticipation.

[Chaotix]

Will there be playable minor factions if you get more sign-ups than intended? If the war goes differently, different nations might come into play.

For instance, perhaps the Zimmermann telegram is never intercepted, and Mexico launches a surprise attack on the U.S. Or, Spain decides to get involved in the war. Or maybe the U.S. joins the Central Powers instead and decides to take Canada.

[Double A]

The Zimmermann telegram...?

[Chaotix]

The Zimmermann telegram...?

Ever studied WWI? It was a telegram sent by Germany's foreign secretary, Arthur Zimmermann, to Mexico, negotiating a secret alliance and all of Mexico's old American lands in exchange for them sneak-attacking the U.S. when they joined the Allies. It was intercepted by the British, though, and they publicized it, causing the U.S. to be royally pissed at Germany. It certainly didn't help the Central Powers' chances as they had hoped.

[Double A]

All I know about WWI:

First tanks
Chemical warfare
Trench warfare

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Will there be playable minor factions if you get more sign-ups than intended? If the war goes differently, different nations might come into play.

For instance, perhaps the Zimmermann telegram is never intercepted, and Mexico launches a surprise attack on the U.S. Or, Spain decides to get involved in the war. Or maybe the U.S. joins the Central Powers instead and decides to take Canada.

Minor factions will not be available but major factions can influence minor factions to join their alliance.
So, Spain joining the war or US joining the Central powers is quite possible.

About the sign-ups..
I always thought that having at least 3 players per faction would be perfect.
This way you could RP internal politics of a country as well. ~:)

Edit: Double A, did you knew that the first tanks couldn't even cross the trenches? Or that the word "tank" was made up just to keep the true purpose of the vehicle secret? ~;)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

And here is the European map:
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/WWI%20game/hexagon_europe_theatre_colors.jpg

Those light blue spots on sea are STZ's(Sea transport zone).
It's possible to move from European map to American using those 3 western most STZ's.
STZ near Portugal allows to move to African theatre.
STZ near Alexandria/Egypt allows moving to the STZ in Red Sea.
Those 4 gray hexes in Egypt is LTZ(Land Transport Zones) and it connects East Africa with Europe.

There are capitals as well.
Suggestions?

[Double A]

I think Spain and Portugal should be countries. That's just a massive blob of land just asking France to be gobbled up.

Also what are the STZs at the Baleares, England/France, between England and Denmark, Malta, Aegean, north Russia, Gotland Persian Gulf, Crimea, island north of England, and the one north of Norway for?

And does the one near Portugal allow movement into NA and African theaters?

And since my understanding of the history of Europe is sketchy at best from Napoleon to WWII, why does England have Malta, Egypt, and Cyprus?

edit: Since Russia is so fecking huge, even bigger than the Ottomans in 30YW, is there some way to counter them having a bajillion gold turn 2 onwards? Like a "remote/backwater hex" penalty (meaning non-coastal non-Nile Africa, Arabia Ottomans don't have, Russian Hinterland, Scandinavia)

[Subotan]

All desert/wasteland provinces should have that effect.

[Double A]

Minor factions will not be available but major factions can influence minor factions to join their alliance.
So, Spain joining the war or US joining the Central powers is quite possible.

About the sign-ups..
I always thought that having at least 3 players per faction would be perfect.
This way you could RP internal politics of a country as well. ~:)

Edit: Double A, did you knew that the first tanks couldn't even cross the trenches? Or that the word "tank" was made up just to keep the true purpose of the vehicle secret? ~;)

Yes and no - the first tanks were a big hunk of metal that moved at a crawl and had the balance of a Magikarp on a tiperope. But... question mark face?

[Splitpersonality]

Chaotix, you and I need to be on the same team, no matter what team it is <3

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I think Spain and Portugal should be countries. That's just a massive blob of land just asking France to be gobbled up.

Also what are the STZs at the Baleares, England/France, between England and Denmark, Malta, Aegean, north Russia, Gotland Persian Gulf, Crimea, island north of England, and the one north of Norway for?

And does the one near Portugal allow movement into NA and African theaters?

And since my understanding of the history of Europe is sketchy at best from Napoleon to WWII, why does England have Malta, Egypt, and Cyprus?

edit: Since Russia is so fecking huge, even bigger than the Ottomans in 30YW, is there some way to counter them having a bajillion gold turn 2 onwards? Like a "remote/backwater hex" penalty (meaning non-coastal non-Nile Africa, Arabia Ottomans don't have, Russian Hinterland, Scandinavia)

1. Unless France wants Spain and Portugal to join Central Powers I advise not to attack them. They are more worth by influencing them to join your side. Country with whom they have the best relationship(NPC and player led country must also be in the same alliance) will be able to control their military.

2. STZ's allow faster traveling to your ships.
So, if Ottomans want to move their fleet from Istanbul to Brest then their orders must be:
(Ottoman fleet starting position is Istanbul STZ B1(upper hex in the center row))
Malta B1 > Baleares A1 > Gibraltar A2 > Brest B2

3. Yes. It allows to move to American and African theaters. So, guard it well. ~;)

4. Since British owned them when the war started?

5. You don't receive tax money from hexes rather from upgrading your infrastructure. So, the amount of hexes means nothing. Having large territory without railroads or cities(there will be more of them not just capitals) makes it harder to reinforce/supply your armies.

[Secura]

And does the one near Portugal allow movement into NA and African theaters?

I would assume this zone is meant to represent Gibraltar and it's likely a means for British access to the Med. It'll be interesting to see how the British and French players prevent the Germans and such from utilising those Atlantic STZs. :3


Since Russia is so fecking huge, even bigger than the Ottomans in 30YW, is there some way to counter them having a bajillion gold turn 2 onwards?

Why would Russia have alot of money? Their economy was mainly agricultural in comparison to the industrialised and increasingly wealthy Germans and Brits. They were decades behind until the Stalin era, really.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I would assume this zone is meant to represent Gibraltar and it's likely a means for British access to the Med. It'll be interesting to see how the British and French players prevent the German submarines from utilising those Atlantic STZs. :3

I made a small correction. ~;)


Why would Russia have alot of money? Their economy was mainly agricultural in comparison to the industrialised and increasingly wealthy Germans and Brits. They were decades behind until the Stalin era, really.

Since this is an alternative reality then Russian players can make wonders with Russia if they don't make the same mistakes as Russians did in WWI. I think another Battle of Tannenberg will not happen in this game.

[Subotan]

Why would Russia have alot of money? Their economy was mainly agricultural in comparison to the industrialised and increasingly wealthy Germans and Brits. They were decades behind until the Stalin era, really.
Because in the previous game in this style, Thirty Years War (Oh God what a game; VIVA LA FRANCE), Russia was absolutely minted, as all Hexes gave the same amount of income.

[Thermal]

Announcement:

I'm looking for some people who could make some signatures for this game.
It would be nice to have 1 signature per country plus 1 general signature.
If You have time then your help is welcomed! :bow:

Posted General sig in both graphic places on the forum :bow:

I am definitely in this, I like the idea of having 3 to each faction, not only does it help if a player is inactive but it allows for teamwork, each team member can access a different part of the faction: I.e. 1 sorts finance, 2 sorts military, 3 sorts diplomacy & expansion

At least that's how I'd organize it :shifty:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Posted General sig in both graphic places on the forum :bow:

I am definitely in this, I like the idea of having 3 to each faction, not only does it help if a player is inactive but it allows for teamwork, each team member can access a different part of the faction: I.e. 1 sorts finance, 2 sorts military, 3 sorts diplomacy & expansion

At least that's how I'd organize it :shifty:

You got it! ~;)

[Prince Cobra]

On a different matter... the recruiting thread can be in the gameroom (for obvious reasons) but I simply can get it why the IH like this one is in the Gamerooom, not in the Chapter House? :wall:

P.S. I read somewhere it was a "gameroom" game... :cough:

P.S. Nothing personal against the gameroom but I find it too vaast...

[Double A]

I would assume this zone is meant to represent Gibraltar and it's likely a means for British access to the Med. It'll be interesting to see how the British and French players prevent the Germans and such from utilising those Atlantic STZs. :3



Why would Russia have alot of money? Their economy was mainly agricultural in comparison to the industrialised and increasingly wealthy Germans and Brits. They were decades behind until the Stalin era, really.

In 30YW, each hex gave 200 money per turn, so even though the Ottomans in real life were piss poor... poor, I had passed the million mark before anyone else. Or was it 100,000? Anyway, I had a lot of money, when I really shouldn't had.


1. Unless France wants Spain and Portugal to join Central Powers I advise not to attack them. They are more worth by influencing them to join your side. Country with whom they have the best relationship(NPC and player led country must also be in the same alliance) will be able to control their military.

2. STZ's allow faster traveling to your ships.
So, if Ottomans want to move their fleet from Istanbul to Brest then their orders must be:
(Ottoman fleet starting position is Istanbul STZ B1(upper hex in the center row))
Malta B1 > Baleares A1 > Gibraltar A2 > Brest B2

3. Yes. It allows to move to American and African theaters. So, guard it well. ~;)

4. Since British owned them when the war started?

5. You don't receive tax money from hexes rather from upgrading your infrastructure. So, the amount of hexes means nothing. Having large territory without railroads or cities(there will be more of them not just capitals) makes it harder to reinforce/supply your armies.

1. Oh I thought the Iberian Penn. was just a big blurb of white for the taking, like most of Russia, N. Africa, and Ireland in 30YW

2. So... they're like Mass Relays? :tongue:

4. I thought France owned Malta and Egypt, and Ottomans owned Cyprus. Wow, I really need to study history from Napoleon to WWI.


Posted General sig in both graphic places on the forum :bow:

I am definitely in this, I like the idea of having 3 to each faction, not only does it help if a player is inactive but it allows for teamwork, each team member can access a different part of the faction: I.e. 1 sorts finance, 2 sorts military, 3 sorts diplomacy & expansion

At least that's how I'd organize it :shifty:

Gah?


On a different matter... the recruiting thread can be in the gameroom (for obvious reasons) but I simply can get it why the IH like this one is in the Gamerooom, not in the Chapter House? :wall:

P.S. I read somewhere it was a "gameroom" game... :cough:

P.S. Nothing personal against the gameroom but I find it too vaast...

Because the first one was in the gameroom?

[Prince Cobra]

Because the first one was in the gameroom?

:evilgrin: Which was not quite the place for such a game. Although, the idea to make the discussion and recruitment thread in the gameroom is a very good one.

Well, I hesitate whether to join or not. Austria would need my help (though I see it quite ruined in the eve of WW1) but Real Life needs more attention. So perhaps I should keep my mouth shut. Perhaps ~;)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

On a different matter... the recruiting thread can be in the gameroom (for obvious reasons) but I simply can get it why the IH like this one is in the Gamerooom, not in the Chapter House? :wall:

P.S. I read somewhere it was a "gameroom" game... :cough:

P.S. Nothing personal against the gameroom but I find it too vaast...

There are several reasons.
First, because the previous game of this type(Thirty Years War) was in Gameroom.
Second, being in Gameroom helps to advertise the game a bit more.
Third, I checked Chapter House and this game looks different than the games played there.

:bow:

[Prince Cobra]

I checked Chapter House and this game looks different than the games played there.

:bow:

Sorry for my ignorance but your game simply has a sophisticated military system (that would be adapted to the trench war). I can't see much of a difference. It is also based on history...

Concert of Europe is a quite different beast from the WW1. The diplomacy there is essential, whilst in the WW1 the dimplomatic maneuvres had little place (at least historically). Black and white game: you are either enemy or friend; compromise between the blocks was impossible even when the damages were bigger than the gains... It was basically the failure of the whole model.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Sorry for my ignorance but your game simply has a sophisticated military system (that would be adapted to the trench war). I can't see much of a difference. It is also based on history...

Concert of Europe is a quite different beast from the WW1. The diplomacy there is essential, whilst in the WW1 the dimplomatic maneuvres had little place (at least historically). Black and white game: you are either enemy or friend; compromise between the blocks was impossible even when the damages were bigger than the gains... It was basically the failure of the whole model.

Well, though you are mostly right about that black and white game thing there were exceptions(Netherlands comes to my mind).
Also, this game allows ahistorical moves such as Germany and France signing peace separately or Ottomans turning against other Central Powers etc. There will be consequences of course(drop in relations between NPC and player country etc) for such actions.

[Centurion1]

cdf needs to get back so we can plan on how to conquer all of you ignorant savages again........


Chaotix, you and I need to be on the same team, no matter what team it is <3

i sense a betrayal chaotix fear the split.

[Splitpersonality]

No betrayal, I love chaotix and think we'd work well together

<3

[Thermal]

Thats one jagged love heart split

[Centurion1]

No betrayal, I love chaotix and think we'd work well together

<3

like i said watch him hes a slippery one he is.

[Double A]

So... what happens now?

[Centurion1]

i win. its predestined surrender your empires to me now and i will allow you to live and entertain me.

[slashandburn]

would love to be in this looks sweet. Tanks at least at first = 90% mechanical failure. ignore them until very late.

[Subotan]

Also, can't we have EUIII/Victoria/Thirty Years War map colours? Pretty please?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

How about fortifications?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

It's possible to build trenches and forts.

[Chaotix]

Also, can't we have EUIII/Victoria/Thirty Years War map colours? Pretty please?

The only aesthetic change I would suggest is changing France to a dark blue, and perhaps swapping the Austrian and German colors- otherwise it looks all good to me- British Red, Russian Green, and Ottomans can be any hue of red/green really.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

France is already dark blue in the new map.

[Double A]

I think Russia should be light blue, and Ottomans should get Russia's color.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I re-did the European map all over when I discovered a site where I can make my own hex-based maps much easier. Also, I think it looks a lot better as well!
What do you think?
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/WWI%20game/euroopa_piirid_color_tekst.png
Many things(other cities, railroad, harbours, STZ's etc) are still missing but it's not that hard to add them later.

[Subotan]

Very nice!

Hungarian Galicia is wrong though.

https://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9061/austrohungarianempire76.png
Notice the "flat" border, with the 90 degree angle with Poland/Russia.

[Double A]

If anyone is wondering what they look side by side, well, just change tabs real quickly.

Map 1 (https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/WWI%20game/hexagon_europe_theatre_colors.jpg)

Map 2 (https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/WWI%20game/euroopa_piirid_color_tekst.png)

Also, why'd you cut off 3ish rows?

[Chaotix]

No doubt the new map looks better. Great work, Ibn! :2thumbsup:

Also, if I may make a suggestion, it might be a good idea to distinguish territory conquered from territory owned with colored, slanted lines- a la EU3.

[Subotan]

I have a friend who is interested in joining. What countries are left?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Also, why'd you cut off 3ish rows?

Since these places were unimportant during WWI. I doubt they will be ever conquered and the map looks a bit better without this huge N-African part.


No doubt the new map looks better. Great work, Ibn! :2thumbsup:

Also, if I may make a suggestion, it might be a good idea to distinguish territory conquered from territory owned with colored, slanted lines- a la EU3.

I already had something similar in my mind.:bow:


I have a friend who is interested in joining. What countries are left?

All of them. Like I have said before you can bring your friends and run the country together. Having about 3 people per nation is near perfect.
I quote TM who expressed my idea very well:

...
I am definitely in this, I like the idea of having 3 to each faction, not only does it help if a player is inactive but it allows for teamwork, each team member can access a different part of the faction: I.e. 1 sorts finance, 2 sorts military, 3 sorts diplomacy & expansion

At least that's how I'd organize it :shifty:

[Subotan]

I'd have to see how much work running one country would require. Would it be similar to TYW?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Yes it is similar. Only with much more information.

[Subotan]

How much more?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

In TYW there was no economy but in here you have resources that you need to buid up your army or infrastructure. Also, colonial part was missing from the TYW.

[Subotan]

Would Bulgaria be OK for him?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Bulgaria will be NPC. However, if you get them(Bulgaria) to join the war on your side then I will think about it.

The available countries for the players are UK, USA, France, Russia, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Turkey and Italy.

[Double A]

Well, Ottomans didn't have any colonies (I guess you could maybe count the Crimea and N Africa, but not anymore), and the economy is already down the drain, so I probably could handle it by myself... if anyone wants to help, though, you're welcome to try.

So Ibn, when are we going to get a gander and the rest of your glorious map?

[Centurion1]

ok if we are claiming now ill take UK and along with it i will take along cdf as my co controller.

he always chooses them anyway :wink: plus i dont want to share with anyone else. i tihnk together we can even handle that nation, we work well together and are active on that sort of thing (see tyw group me and him are like 90% of the posts)

this all assuming he comes back in time.

[Chaotix]

I'm interested most in playing as Italy, but I could go for any other country if necessary.

[Double A]

Since Pizza and me were secretly allied, do I get Switzerland?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

cdf needs to get back so we can plan on how to conquer all of you ignorant savages again........
i sense a betrayal chaotix fear the split.

You called?

:beam: Trying to get back, should be able to start being on more frequently starting next week :laugh4: I know how much you all missed me :laugh4:

...... Gonna have to finally put up that last writeup of my mafia game as well...... Better late then never I suppose.


And Cent, You Know I am all over the UK like Milk on Oreo cookies :laugh4:

[Beskar]

If you need some one, I could play as Russia. I will send my Bear Cavalry against the Germans.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

If you need some one, I could play as Russia. I will send my Bear Cavalry against the Germans.

Only if I can send in My Penguin Army.

[Centurion1]

Cdf. Oh how I have missed you without the game room has lost a bit of its luster I need my companero oh I have much to tell

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Since I'll be working during the Saturdays in May(except this one) then I have to move the starting date to the beginning of June. I don't want to start this game while I don't have enough time for it. I apologize for any inconveniences this might cause to possible players.

[Double A]

Dang, I really wanted to play this soon.

How else would I spend all my time on the Internet when no one else is on?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Cdf. Oh how I have missed you without the game room has lost a bit of its luster I need my companero oh I have much to tell

:laugh4:, Yeah, I am pretty awesome like that


Dang, I really wanted to play this soon.

How else would I spend all my time on the Internet when no one else is on?

true, but I can stand to wait till June



Personally I am waiting for a game to start its signups, :tongue:

[Double A]

I NEED MOAR INFO!

Maps of the other theaters would make me go HOLY CRAP THIS LOOKS AWESOME even more.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

The starting date is 28th June.
That is the day when 96 years ago Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip. I thought that it would be nice to start on a historic day. Sign ups will be open 1-2 weeks before we start.

[Subotan]

Unfortunately, I will be unable to play, due to both ABZF and IRL commitments. Had you started earlier, maybe, but :shrug:

[Double A]

ABZF?

[Splitpersonality]

A bridge zhou far, his new game that I designed the banner for that he's not using ;_;

[Subotan]

A bridge zhou far, his new game that I designed the banner for that he's not using ;_;
I feel really bad now :sad:

Your banner was exactly what I had in mind, I just wanted it bigger. I would have used your bigger proposal, had GIMP not broke on you, and I just preferred the banner without the text so :shrug:

[Splitpersonality]

Nah it's no big deal, I'm just kidding :P

You did very well making the banner for yourself, and I'm still sorry about that fiasco.

[Subotan]

I still feel guilty though, but thanks.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Unfortunately, I will be unable to play, due to both ABZF and IRL commitments. Had you started earlier, maybe, but :shrug:

You can always join later. Also, because of this game, VI game and IRL I can't join your game(ABZF). :shame:

[Double A]

Maps of non-Europe areas?

Pwetty pwease?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

European map(changed some borders a bit):
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/WWI%20game/drhtdrgbrdmeuroopa_piirid_color_tek.png
Austo-Hungarian, Russian and German borders were changed a bit. Kuwait was given to the British.

American/Atlantic map:
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/WWI%20game/mnybhhfameerika_color_tekst2a.png

German East-Africa:
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/WWI%20game/aytjfgefsaafrika_piirid2a_colors_te.png
Movement/conquering territories/recruitment work differently in this theater..

Transport zones are marked on the map but railways or "minor" cities are not(yet).

[Double A]

Shouldn't England be to the southwest of GEA as well?

Oh was that Portugal? Gah stupid imperialism!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Yes, that's Mozambique and it belonged to the Portuguese.

[Double A]

Oh right.

What about German WEST Africa? :P

[Subotan]

Togo? >_>

[Centurion1]

So what are we looking at for times now?

[Double A]

And New Guinea. Preeety sure Germany had some stuff on the north half of PNG.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Togo - surrendered on 26 August 1914. No real German military forces were stationed there.
German South West Africa - last German military units surrendered on 9 July 1915.

From the Wiki:

The Asian and Pacific Theatre of World War I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I) was a largely bloodless conquest of German (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Empire) colonial possession (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_colonial_empire) in the Pacific Ocean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Ocean) and China (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China). The most significant military action was the careful and well-executed Japanese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_Japan) Siege of Tsingtao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Tsingtao) in what is now China, but smaller actions were also fought at Bita Paka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bita_Paka) and Toma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Toma) in German New Guinea. All other German and Austrian possessions in Asia and the Pacific fell without bloodshed.
This is also the main reason why Japan is NPC.

[Double A]

Oh well guess we'll have to wait for WWII for some Asian warfare.

:chinese:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Have I mentioned I am pumped for this yet?

[Double A]

No.

When does it start again? 10 days right?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Yes, it starts in 28th. I'll open the sign ups in 21st. Those who already have mentioned in this thread which country they want will have priority over the others. Remember that I'm aiming 3 people per country. So, bring your friends with you!

I'll post the list of NPC's and colonies/protectorates later today so that you could start making your secret world domination plans already.

Edit: Also, looks like the military part is not the most important one. Without trading partners you could soon find yourself in a very difficult situation. Diplomacy and getting your Economy in line are much more important.

[Beskar]

Let's not go to war, all trade, sit around in a circle, then sing kumbahya.

[Double A]

No, then the Swiss will conquer all of Europe.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

The Sign ups are open!


Currently signed up players:
England
1. Centurion1
2. Cultured Drizzt fan

Ottomans
1. Double A

Italy
1. Chaotix

Russia
1. Beskar

USA
1. -

France
1. -

Austro-Hungary
1. -

Germany
1. -

Interested:
spl1tp3r50nal1ty
Thermal Mercury
slashandburn
Subotan



When the game starts I'll create the IC diplomacy thread. This thread will stay for discussions, questions and answers.

[Centurion1]

Beskar your a damned communist but the beautiiful irony here is that you cannot give in to your evil hippie_communist urges and encourage the red revolution. Mwahahahahah I however am encouraged in my beliefs with imperial britian.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Btw, Russia starts with Czar ruling the Empire. When revolution does happen then Player(s) will receive an option - join the revolution or not. Choosing the wrong side and losing will mean the Player(s) are defeated and thus his/their former country will become NPC.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Beskar your a damned communist but the beautiiful irony here is that you cannot give in to your evil hippie_communist urges and encourage the red revolution. Mwahahahahah I however am encouraged in my beliefs with imperial britian.

Remeber Cent. THE SUN NEVER SETS in the British Empire!

[Centurion1]

My dear man before we are through the sun will be a member of the British empire.

Seriously though you all stand no chance against me and cdf united we will devour you!

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

My dear man before we are through the sun will be a member of the British empire.

Seriously though you all stand no chance against me and cdf united we will devour you!

Why stop with the sun? I hear Pluto is a nice place. :laugh4: But really, lets not count our cannons before the French are destroyed.

But really, I think this is gonna be fun. (Ibn, what happened to the list of nations and NPC's? :tongue: not to be a bother, just wondering.)

[Beskar]

Is Centurion1 the Queen and CDF the Prime Minister?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Is Centurion1 the Queen and CDF the Prime Minister?

ahhhh man. I wanted to be the Queen! :laugh4:


Also, I realize that due to the amount of gloating me and cent have done, we are probably going to be thoroughly screwed...... Fate has a twisted sense of humor.

[Centurion1]

Trash talking is an integral part of any competitive event. Without it our lives would be bland and meaningless it brings me joy; DON'T YOU DARE TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME WITH YOUR COMMIE WITCH MAGIC AND HIPPIE VOODOO!!!!!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Why stop with the sun? I hear Pluto is a nice place. :laugh4: But really, lets not count our cannons before the French are destroyed.

But really, I think this is gonna be fun. (Ibn, what happened to the list of nations and NPC's? :tongue: not to be a bother, just wondering.)

The list of NPC's:
Spain
Portugal
Switzerland
Netherlands
Belgium
Norway
Sweden
Denmark
Albania
Montenegro
Serbia
Greece
Bulgaria
Romania
Persia
Najd
Japan
China
Siam
Mexico
Brazil
Peru
Chile
I later might add some more depending the situation in the game.

The colonies/protectorates(AMt-American theater;EUt-European theater;AFt-African theater;sps-spreadsheet):
Great Britain
Canada (AMt)
Australia&New Zealand (sps)
India (sps)
South Africa (sps)
Egypt (EUt)
British East Africa (AFt)
France
Morocco (EUt)
Algeria(a.k.a. French West Africa) (EUt)
Tunisia (EUt)
French Equatorial Africa(sps)
French Indo-China(sps)
Italy
Libya (EUt)
Italian Somalia (sps)
Germany
Kamerun (sps)
German South West Africa (sps)
German East Africa (sps)
Russia
Russian Manchuria (sps)

NPC countries with colonies:
Spain
Spanish Morocco (EUt)
Portugal
Mozambique(AFt)

[Subotan]

Dude if you wanted to be a Communist you should have joined ABZF

[Ibn-Khaldun]

A little bit more information:
Technology & Improvements

Improvements

Helmets
Toxic Gases
Chemical Warfare
Gas masks
Haber process
Field Telephone
Light Machineguns
Flamethrowers

Air

Scout planes
Fighters
Bombers
Zeppelins
Observation Balloon
AA-guns

Navy

Depth Charges
Hydrophones
Sea Mines
Blimps
Aircraft Carrier

Land

Heavy Artillery
Railway guns
Land Mines
AT-guns
Military Trucks
Armoured Cars
Tanks
Assault troops
They are not Not all are available from the start. You need Universities if you want to research new technologies.
Also, there are requirements that Players must fulfill in order to make a technology available for research.

[Double A]

What, like get hit by poisonous gasses to think about developing gas masks, or hear about them from an ally?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Exactly.

[Double A]

When do we get the giant PDF rulebook?

[Centurion1]

IBn this is like a massive video game how are you going to do it?

And da as the ottomans you don't progress beyond flintlocks duh

[Double A]

Be quiet you barbaric Saxon! I don't need your annoying taunts this game!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

When do we get the giant PDF rulebook?

Soon.


IBn this is like a massive video game how are you going to do it?

And da as the ottomans you don't progress beyond flintlocks duh

You have 6 days for diplomatic declarations/announcements in the game thread. Private diplomacy can be done all the time.
After that you'll have 2 days to send me your orders.
Me, john and w&f will follow the orders in the next 6 days.
So, it would take 2 weeks to complete 1 turn.
I predict there will be some confusion during the first 2 turns(how to move, where/what to build etc).

[Beskar]

Not to sound wrong, but isn't 2 weeks, a little slow?

At what rate are we moving at? Because if it is like 2 weeks for one turn of Thirty Years War, then it will be at a pretty unbearably slow pace, especially as people lose interest and just sat there waiting for the turn to end, as there is nothing for them to do.

[Double A]

And since this game is only 5 days from start, shouldn't it be moved to the straight section?

[Centurion1]

we could shorten players turns to send in orders. Britian could do theirs in three to four days; cant speak for the continental players........

and i disagree beskar. im in concert of europe and its phases are like three weeks and the game is nowhere near as stimulating as this (no map tactics, economoy really) Resident evil phases lasted quite a long time.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Thank you GH for moving this thread! :bow:

Anyway, USA, France, Germany and Austro-Hungarian Empire are still open.
Also, I remind you that - "the more the merrier". So, call a friend to join the game. This makes the game easier for you and also for us, hosts, because there will always be at least one person who can send in their orders.

[Beskar]

My apologises, I am withdrawing. :bow:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

That means Russia, USA, France, Germany and Austro-Hungarian Empire are available!

[Chaotix]

I invite anyone who wants to play Italy to join me here. Don't hesitate!

Honestly, I'll be starting Brawl Royale in a week so whoever is on my team will probably be taking a more active role than me.

Also, I might point out Italy's advantageous position of being both a member of the Triple Alliance (with Germany, Austria) and then later of the Allied Powers (with U.S., Britain, France, Russia). So technically it's completely in-character to stay neutral for the first few turns and build up, and then pick the winning side! :grin:

[Double A]

No one starts off allied. Just like in 30YW :yes:

[Beefy187]

I'll be playing as Assistant/ Diplomat of Double As Ottoman Empire :bow:
I won't be able to fully play as I'm slightly busy, but I should be able to be annoying :beam:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ugh Not sure if this will work out.

hope we can get some more people.

[Double A]

Maybe we should advertise on TWC and CFC.

I'll go do a thread in both.

[Double A]

Ok advertised in the Coliseum and other games forums.

Can you edit the maps into the first post for everyone's convenience please?

[Centurion1]

Welcome chaotix and beefy!

Chaotix what about split?

Ill ask some rl friends but most of my friends aren't really into internet forums and roleplay...... but ill try it.

[Chaotix]

Welcome chaotix and beefy!

Chaotix what about split?

Ill ask some rl friends but most of my friends aren't really into internet forums and roleplay...... but ill try it.

Split's internet is out currently, but he'll be back by Friday I believe.

Also, I been on that pre-sign-up list as long as you. :clown:

[Centurion1]

i know that............. im just saying hello. chill bro.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

No one starts off allied. Just like in 30YW :yes:

Actually, some empires do start allied to each other.
France - Britain - Russia vs Austria-Hungary - Germany

Italy can either stay with the Central Powers when the war starts or stay neutral/join Entente.
USA and Ottomans can choose either side or stay neutral.

The first 3 turns will be close to history. After that it's all up to you what you do with your empires.


Ok advertised in the Coliseum and other games forums.

Can you edit the maps into the first post for everyone's convenience please?

I'll do that.

[Secura]

I'd have signed up, but someone took Blighty. :<

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I'd have signed up, but someone took Blighty. :<

:tongue: sorry Secura. You sure you wouldn't want to play as another nation? I can say from experiance Ibn's games are awesome to the extreme.

[Secura]

Well, the remaining choices are the perennial white flag wavers, the our-equipment-is-awful-but-we've-got-five-times-more-men-than-you-and-then-some!'ers, two of the losing nations... oh, and America. xD

I'll think about it. :3

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Well, the remaining choices are the perennial white flag wavers, the our-equipment-is-awful-but-we've-got-five-times-more-men-than-you-and-then-some!'ers, two of the losing nations... oh, and America. xD

I'll think about it. :3

Well, I think that if you join as Germany or Austro-Hungarian Empire You'll win easily. Guys here would just keep their distance and try not to "hurt" you because you're a Lady. So, easy victory for you. ~;)

[Secura]

Alrighty, I'll take the United States of America Secura... should give me plenty of time to get used to how the game works while everyone else kills each other. :3

[Double A]

Unless CDF and Cent invade you from Canada, eh.

[Secura]

Would they really do that, though? ¬_¬

Britain was already being outstripped by Germany by the turn of the twentieth century, why throw the USA into the mix?

Encouraging the emergent economic powerhouse that is the USA to break their neutrality in the favour of the Kaiser would have been a foolish mistake for Britain to make, and unless I'm absolutely awful at this game I would imagine it to be a similar situation here.

[Double A]

I doubt it, but you never know with those scheming British :tongue:

[Centurion1]

Speak for yourself I'd target her first. British women are dangerous

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Alrighty, I'll take the United States of America Secura... should give me plenty of time to get used to how the game works while everyone else kills each other. :3

At the start of the game US might not look dangerous or strong but if you are being attacked or if you decide to join the war then the full power of the US will be revealed.

And thank you for joining! :bow:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

4 more empires are open!
Hopefully someone takes at least German empire or the WWI will be rather one sided. :beam:

[Double A]

I'll go bump the threads I started.

[Beefy187]

Ok, for the sake of the game. I'm quitting Ottoman empire and going to take the Germans.
Suffer the weakest German empire ever!

[Double A]

Nooooo :cry:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Ok whats with this. This game is going to be awesome Sign up people!!!!!!!!!

[Double A]

OR ELSE!

Someone talk to Greyblades.

[Centurion1]

Why the hell did my favorite british communist leave!!!!!!!!

I need my british hippie.......

[Ibn-Khaldun]

First of all, I am back. Had a nice weekend with my family and now I am ready to start this game!


Ok, for the sake of the game. I'm quitting Ottoman empire and going to take the Germans.
Suffer the weakest German empire ever!

Thank You! :bow:

That leaves Russia, Austro-Hungarian Empire and France.

Russian Empire - If the Player can keep the people happy, economy checked and get some early victories(and not facing defeats like the Battle of Tannenberg) then Russia can become one of the strongest empires in this game. It's even possible to keep the Czar in power and never face the revolution.

Austro-Hungarian Empire - Though they are surrounded by enemies(both Player and NPC countries), they do have a chance to be victorious. If Balkan states(Serbia, Albania, Montenegro) are crushed during the first few turns then the Player can concentrate most of their powers against Russia.

France - How can you not win playing as the French? You have many colonies, your industrial center is close to your border. Smart play, lots of diplomacy and the victory is yours!

[Double A]

France - How can you not win playing as the French? You have many colonies, your industrial center is close to your border. Smart play, lots of diplomacy and the victory is yours!

Unless you pull a Subo :tongue:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

It would be interesting seeing Subotan playing as France again!

Anyway, I notified some people about the game. Hopefully they will join.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

spl1tper50nal1ty takes Russia. He can still read PM's, answer visitor messages and will be watching but he will get internet on 1st of July if you are interested doing diplomacy with him.

So, that means France and Austria are still available. 2 more players and we can start!

[Double A]

At least 2. It was so easy getting sign-ups for 30YW....

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I'm waiting what couple people decide. If they join then we have full house(all empires taken) and we can finally start.

Double A - it was easy to get players to 30YW because it was a new thing and because I allowed people taking even some smaller nations.

[Subotan]

What the Hell I'll go for Austria, provided the game starts AFTER Wednesday Morning.

[Subotan]

...Or should I go France?

[Secura]

Why don't Centurion and Drizzty break off and one of them take the remaining nation?

That way, we're not sat around waiting for another player when we have two controlling one nation. :3

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Why don't Centurion and Drizzty break off and one of them take the remaining nation?

That way, we're not sat around waiting for another player when we have two controlling one nation. :3

I sent them PM asking if one of them would like to take France(being on the same side etc).
Also, Prince Cobra said he will give his answer tomorrow(actually today *watching the clock*).

Subotan - France is easier. Just keep sending thousands of soldiers on front and 4 years later declare yourself a winner. they also have colonies.
Austria is harder. You must constantly check what others are doing. However, you don't have to worry about navy and colonies since Austria don't have them.

[Centurion1]

Ok well if prince cobra doesn't go for it then I will split with my drizzit........

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Ok well if prince cobra doesn't go for it then I will split with my drizzit........

:bigcry:

If we must :beam:

[slashandburn]

I'd like to join in as per my interest post, wherever i am needed

[Centurion1]

Ha woman you tried to split me and bro up but you fail!

After some dignified begging vladimir has said he would like to join the game. Ibn he will either be contacting you soon or you can initiate contact if you desire.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

slashandburn - I hope you don't mind taking France?

[Secura]

Purely in the interests of the game actually starting, rather than any sort of tactical advantage.

Ibn stated that he wanted the game to begin on the anniversary of Gavrilo Princip's assassination of the Archduke and Duchess of Hohenberg, which was ninety-six years ago to the day... yesterday. It's a shame we missed it, but hopefully we can get going now we've got a full roster; I'm sure any more interested players can join one of the current nations. :3

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Purely in the interests of the game actually starting, rather than any sort of tactical advantage.

Ibn stated that he wanted the game to begin on the anniversary of Gavrilo Princip's assassination of the Archduke and Duchess of Hohenberg, which was ninety-six years ago to the day... yesterday. It's a shame we missed it, but hopefully we can get going now we've got a full roster; I'm sure any more interested players can join one of the current nations. :3

I'm waiting the response from Prince Cobra or Vladimir. If one of them joins as Austria then we can start. And it is a shame we missed the date but that is partly my fault. Should have advertised this game more and had the thread moved here sooner.

[Prince Cobra]

I step in as Emperor Franz Joseph. It is temporary decision since I will leave the IH at some point. But for the time I am part of it... let's have fun.

Interestingly enough, WW1 was everything Metternich fought against. Nationalism, alliance system, influence of Austria (now Austria-Hungary). The battle is lost. But... WW1 is a decadent and horrible... A nightmare... A war with big loser and smaller loser. Hope this time Austria will be amongst the smaller losers. Amen!

P.S. I welcome new players to join the Austrian staff! First, the Emperor is just a figure head during such a war, and second, I will have to leave at one point.

PS2 And let's move the game thread into the Chapter House. :bow:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Ha woman you tried to split me and bro up but you fail!

After some dignified begging vladimir has said he would like to join the game. Ibn he will either be contacting you soon or you can initiate contact if you desire.

:laugh4:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Can I join as Austria-Hungary please if it is not to late!? :clown:


:bow:

[Centurion1]

I hope you all realize this isn't really like an ih but more like a a full fledged video game

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Fine by me. :book:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Can I join as Austria-Hungary please if it is not to late!? :clown:


:bow:

Yes you can join. Just PM Prince Cobra. I think he doesn't mind you helping him.

I'll send the details about the empires to the leading players(if there are more than one) and post the game thread(for IC diplomatic announcements etc) tomorrow. It's quite late in here and I don't want to make any mistakes with the infos.

However, I can tell you how many cities each of you have. These are the cities on your core hexes(not counting colonial cities).
British Empire (2): London, Edinburgh
France (5): Paris, Nancy, Brest, Bordeaux, Marseilles
Italy (3): Rome, Milan, Venice
Austro-Hungarian Empire (4): Vienna, Budapest, Trieste, Lvov(Lemberg)
German Empire (5): Berlin, Königsberg, Munich, Hamburg, Frankfurt
Russian Empire (7): St. Petersburg, Warsaw, Archangelsk, Moscow, Sevastopol, Rostov, Tbilisi
Ottoman Empire (5): Istanbul(Constantinople), Angora, Alexandretta, Erzerum, Baghdad, Jerusalem
United States of America (1): Washington

[Secura]

United States of America Secura (1): Washington

This doesn't make me invasion fodder, does it?

Does one's city/ies being occupied mean defeat? :3

[Prince Cobra]

Can I join as Austria-Hungary please if it is not to late!? :clown:


:bow:

How could I refuse you such an honour?


On a different matter, waiting for the intro.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

This doesn't make me invasion fodder, does it?

Does one's city/ies being occupied mean defeat? :3

No, it doesn't. If someone attacks you(or if you join the Great War) then other cities will be revealed. Your attacker must also deal with shortage of supplies/ammo/food. Launching an invasion against you would be quite impossible.

Also no to your second question.

[Centurion1]

So pumped right now!

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Yes you can join. Just PM Prince Cobra. I think he doesn't mind you helping him.

I'll send the details about the empires to the leading players(if there are more than one) and post the game thread(for IC diplomatic announcements etc) tomorrow. It's quite late in here and I don't want to make any mistakes with the infos.

However, I can tell you how many cities each of you have. These are the cities on your core hexes(not counting colonial cities).
British Empire (2): London, Edinburgh
France (5): Paris, Nancy, Brest, Bordeaux, Marseilles
Italy (3): Rome, Milan, Venice
Austro-Hungarian Empire (4): Vienna, Budapest, Trieste, Lvov(Lemberg)
German Empire (5): Berlin, Königsberg, Munich, Hamburg, Frankfurt
Russian Empire (7): St. Petersburg, Warsaw, Archangelsk, Moscow, Sevastopol, Rostov, Tbilisi
Ottoman Empire (5): Istanbul(Constantinople), Angora, Alexandretta, Erzerum, Baghdad, Jerusalem
United States of America (1): Washington


Do we get to know how many troops we have,etc...?

How could I refuse you such an honour?


On a different matter, waiting for the intro.


You can't or I'll fire you in the CoE IH! :laugh:


Just Joking! :book::book:

It is a pleasure playing with you (again). :pimp:

[Centurion1]

Dude by the end of the day your going to be getting a huge PDF if this is like the last game

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Dude by the end of the day your going to be getting a huge PDF if this is like the last game

The last one wasn't THAT huge :beam:

Bet this one will be thought. :laugh4: did I mention this is gonna be awesome?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

1. You'll get the list of units and all the other details about your empires tomorrow. There are couple of things I need to check before I send them. However, I'll post the IC Game thread today.

2. There were 3 pdf files I sent to john and woad. They were 10, 3 and 11 pages long. Players get an edited version(3-in-1) which is a bit shorter. You should get it when I'm done editing it(about a hour from now).

3. If you hope to see historically accurate armies then I have to disappoint you. The German Empire is the only one who have armies closest to the ones before the war started.

P.S. It was such a beautiful day in here today and it would've been a sin not to spend it with my family. This is the main reason you will not get the details about your empires.

[Double A]

WHOOO PMS TOMORROW!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Your PMS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMS) starts tomorrow? Thanks for telling us.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

The Carebear store in Swissland sells tampons you know :yes:.

[Double A]

Is there a middle finger smiley? :brood:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

The Manual (http://www.filefront.com/16918755/wwi_game_manual.pdf/)

I'll post it in the Game thread and edit it into the first post of this thread as well.

During the game I take the liberty to add/remove parts from it. I'll let you know if I make changes. Most likely I'll add parts that for some reason I have missed.

[Double A]

What do 0,5 million pounds and 0,25 million pounds mean? I get 5 million, but not 0,5.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

0,5 million = 500 000
0,25 million = 250 000

[Centurion1]

dear jesus double a............. half of a million is 500000

anyway im going to print this out and take it with me to read at the pool.

yeah thats right boys i read and i go outside at the same time.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

dear jesus double a............. half of a million is 500000

anyway im going to print this out and take it with me to read at the pool.

yeah thats right boys i read and i go outside at the same time.

Amateur. I read while I walk down the street :beam:

[Centurion1]

brother i read while i eat.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

brother i read while i eat.

.... Touche. I admit I have been bested.

[Double A]

I'm not used to seeing commas being used as decimals :brood:

[Subotan]

Erm...


What the Hell I'll go for Austria, provided the game starts AFTER Wednesday Morning.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Your next post made me think that you are not sure what country you'll take. And since you didn't made any posts after that could've made things clearer then.. :shrug:
I apologize if you wanted to join as Austria and I ignored it. :shame:
However, you can still join the game as Austria or any other country. Just send the existing players a PM that you want to join and that's all. I think people will be happy to share the weight of this game with someone else.

[Centurion1]

Thought subotan was France?

[woad&fangs]

Good luck to all players. :bow:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Good luck to all players. :bow:

Thanks. Good luck to you and john as well. Even cohosting this beast is probably going to be a burden.

for that matter good luck to you Ibn :tongue: Hopefully this one doesn't become too much.

[seireikhaan]

Moderator note: The game thread is to be used for "in character" posting. Offending posts will be deleted or moved to this thread.

[Double A]

ooc: Is there an ooc thread?

[seireikhaan]

ooc: Is there an ooc thread?
Ibn-Khaldun stated in the OP of the game thread that players were only to post IC in that thread. So, I guess that makes this the ooc thread.

[Double A]

I'm so confused, Sadiq.

[Secura]

We post OOC stuff here, such as general discussion about how the game's going and so on.

The Game Thread itself is reserved for in-character posts, be it as Woodrow Wilson, Wilhelm II, David Lloyd George, Georges Clemenceau, Nicholas II, Mehmed V, Franz Joseph I or Antonio Salandra & his successors. I'd expect things such as political speeches, condemnation of war, alliances and so on to be discussed in that thread, but I think Ibn will clarify either way. :3

[Ibn-Khaldun]

We post OOC stuff here, such as general discussion about how the game's going and so on.

The Game Thread itself is reserved for in-character posts, be it as Woodrow Wilson, Wilhelm II, David Lloyd George, Georges Clemenceau, Nicholas II, Mehmed V, Franz Joseph I or Antonio Salandra & his successors. I'd expect things such as political speeches, condemnation of war, alliances and so on to be discussed in that thread, but I think Ibn will clarify either way. :3

Everything you said is correct.

[Vladimir]

Any chance of getting a job as a general? Policy maker? etc?

[Splitpersonality]

Russia reporting in with internet, going to go subscribe to and read the game thread

:bow:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I suggest you get this (http://www.filefront.com/16929525/Player_Military.xls/)as well.

It's a spreadsheet file where the unit costs are listed. This should help you decide what unit you want to recruit and when.

[Centurion1]

Ibn are we still going to get details today?

[Splitpersonality]

Thanks for the spreadsheet Ibn, reviewing it now.

[Subotan]

Looking at the rules, this is complicated enough for me, especially when I'm likely to have Distant Worlds, Vicky 2, ABZF and loads of reading on my plate soon. Thanks, but I'm out :bow:

[Double A]

:sad:


I suggest you get this (http://www.filefront.com/16929525/Player_Military.xls/)as well.

It's a spreadsheet file where the unit costs are listed. This should help you decide what unit you want to recruit and when.

THANK YOU SO FREAKING MUCH.

Now I don't have to do it!

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

So whats up? Anything wrong?

[Beefy187]

I'll just give a warning in advance.
I can't promise much activity until my summer break.

[Double A]

But... it's July!

[Centurion1]

He's japanese they get a week off for summer

[Double A]

That's too sad to be funny.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

So whats up? Anything wrong?

Balancing the game so that you don't run out of supplies/food in the first few turns is preventing me to send out the empire details.
The game was balanced for a Corps sized armies but actually you have bigger armies. That is a problem I did not see before. Currently I'm reducing the size of armies so that you could get the list of armies and economic details hopefully today. Calculating CE and stuff like that also takes some time.

Atm USA, Ottomans, Italy and Austria-Hungary are done and 4 big ones are still left.

[Beefy187]

He's japanese they get a week off for summer

Except its Uni so I think I'll get a month or two off..
Maybe 3 :D

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Except its Uni so I think I'll get a month or two off..
Maybe 3 :D

They get time off :laugh:?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Balancing the game so that you don't run out of supplies/food in the first few turns is preventing me to send out the empire details.
The game was balanced for a Corps sized armies but actually you have bigger armies. That is a problem I did not see before. Currently I'm reducing the size of armies so that you could get the list of armies and economic details hopefully today. Calculating CE and stuff like that also takes some time.

Atm USA, Ottomans, Italy and Austria-Hungary are done and 4 big ones are still left.



thats fine, just wondering :bow: take all the time needed.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Decided not to play in this game. Sorry!

[mic1402]

i'll help italy if it's alright.

[Double A]

So...

[woad&fangs]

Real life intervened for IK. I haven't heard from him in a week.

[johnhughthom]

And I was supposed to help but got bogged down by RL stuff. Checked in a few days ago and it seemed nothing was happening.