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ok, well ive started making this wonderful map.. im trying as best i can to stick to the original floor plan of the castle, but it will be tough to make it 100% accurate, ill post when it is done, and any information on the surrounding countryside would be good
ICantSpellDawg
11-29-2002, 04:15
i love the knights of st john, but i dont get the idea. are you gonna make the map resemble the regions outside of kraks? is thsi a mod or something else
sounds interesting tho
Michiel de Ruyter
11-29-2002, 11:32
TuffStuffMcGruff,
Kerak de Chevaliers is located in a arid area, on the outcrop of a hill. This hill has very steep slopes on three sides, so the castle is only accessible on the side of the three great towers of the inner ward... I do not have a link to the picture at the moment... IRC, looking from above, the spur looked U shaped, with the only accessible side being on top of the U, and directly facing the great towers...
Talking about inaccessible castles, there are quite a few in the Pyrenees, and in Germany. The most awesome location I have seen for a castle though is in Italy
http://www.dickemauern.de/hader/bild1.jpg
ICantSpellDawg
11-29-2002, 18:38
OH GOD I GET IT
a multiplayer map - im an idiot, i think i must have played multiplayer like thrice since buying the game
never really dug it, but i play the campaigns all the time
sorry
well its basically a multiplayer map, i know what the castle itself looks like, as wqith its location on the hill, etc, but what im looking for is just some shots of some of the surrounding hills. Im actually planning on making a serires of maps based on the crusader castles, and there is another that will be along after this one. I will also put a readme with each of the maps, staing the best florin count for each to make it fair.
well the map is now made, im just ironing out a few bugs... let me tell you though its quite impressive http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
anyway, i need some help here.. it seems that whenever i test the map, the castle walls donw want to fall down :-/
any help here?
The big question is whether you can actually set these maps for specific regions like for Malta I wanted to be able to fight for the Valetta area or London would actually have a castle map of the Tower, that sort of thing.
Gilbert de Clare
ok guys it is in the very final testing stages just ironing out the last of the bugs and balance issues then i will release it over this website with a readme on preffered settings
Very much looking forward to it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
well im just now doing the final touches, expect the map to be 100% complete tomorrow
well guys, its done.. ive uploaded it on the site so it should be up very soon.. i look forward to any and all feedback
i thought i might make it easy for you guys, here is the link for now until barocca updates the download section
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloa....ers.zip (http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/Krak%20Des%20Chevaliers.zip)
Hiya Alro
Thx for the link.
I tried it but got a password required message. Funny I also tried to go to files section on .org just now and got not authorized message. Is the file server down ??.
Here's some pics of the Krak:
http://www.homsonline.com/Citeis/KrakDesChevaliersPhotoGallery.htm
yeah, i got a heap of pictures while making my map of it... too bad you cant seem to d/l it. In the zip i have some pictures of krak and my version
Norseman
12-03-2002, 17:16
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The big question is whether you can actually set these maps for specific regions like for Malta I wanted to be able to fight for the Valetta area or London would actually have a castle map of the Tower, that sort of thing.
Gilbert de Clare
The answer is; you can http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
You have to open the Early.txt file (or High/Late whatever startpos you like best)in the campmap/startpos folder. Scroll down until you find "Region Attributes".
Lets illustrate what to do with an exemple; setting castle for Wessex.
In "region attributes" wessex is described as FLAT, and the MAPGROUP is set to -1(meaning random). When you start a siege battle in wessex, MTW will search for a castlemap named castleFLAT_*nr1*_*nr2*_*nr3*. As there is 5 mapgroups(nr.1 in mapfilename) of castlemaps named this, the -1 will make the game pick one of them randomly. Nr.2 and 3 depends on the castleupgrade. If there is a fort in Wessex; nr2=1, a keep; 2, a castle; 3, a citadel; 4 and a fortress; 5.
Nr.3 depends on extra upgrades, like curtain wall, ring wall, catapult towers etc. (look at the tech-tree)
To have the castle we want in Wessex, we must make 15 castlemaps of it, in the different stages of upgrading (basic fort + 14 upgrades...alot of maps to make...). If the -1 in "Region Attributes" is changed to for instance 6; our 15 maps must be named castleFLAT_06_nr2_nr3.
When this is done, move the mapfiles from the SAVEMAPS folder to BATTLE/MAPS
Now, when beginning a new campaigne and starting a siege battle, the number 6 and wessex desription FLAT will make the game search directly for the castlefalt_06 mapgroup.
I've only tried this once in a test, but it worked just fine. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
I would like to build several castles, and have started work on Carcassonne (Toulouse), Fougeres (Brittany) and the city walls of Constantinople. Was eager in the start, but this takes a lot of time - time i don't really have http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
Hope this can be of any use...
wow.. that is ndeed interesting, i think ill have to take a good look at this, perhaps i can do something like that with some of my castle maps. I guess ill try making a mod using real castles and sites across europe, that should prove interesting.
it only takes me about a day now to make a historical castle
So is that to say that you could actually set the map for a province say for instance Aragon and have that as a castle map ie to take the province you must take the castle? or no?
so in regionattributes rather than flat could you set it to a certain castle map
i think that is possible, although i think its a little bit silly, but could be surprising
Alrowan,
When using your Krakmap I found both attacker and defender beamed right into the castle....was that your intention ?
A beautiful map though
Dirk
i replied to your email just now. If anyone else is having any problems like this just post them here. Personally i avent, but im about to go in game again to have a look, and play as the defender.
ok, after some more testing ive found that it works fine if you have the game patched, im not sure about if your game is not patched
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