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PanzerJaeger
04-01-2010, 05:13
Brave Saudi housewife set to win Arabic X Factor after blistering attack on hardline Muslim clerics on live TV (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1262488/Hissa-Hilal-set-win-Arabic-X-Factor-TV-attack-hardline-Muslim-clerics.html)


A brave Saudi housewife has reached the final of the Arabic version of the X Factor after lashing out at hardline Muslim clerics on live TV.
Wearing a black burkha, mother-of-four Hissa Hilal delivered a blistering poem against Muslim preachers 'who sit in the position of power' but are 'frightening' people with their fatwas, or religious edicts, and 'preying like a wolf' on those seeking peace.
Her poem got loud cheers from the audience last week and won her a place in the competition's final on April 7.

It also brought her death threats, posted on several Islamic militant websites.
Courage: Hissa Hilal delivers her blistering attack against Muslim extremists live on television on TV show 'The Million's Poet'

The programme, 'The Million's Poet', is a chance for poets to show off their original work and is broadcast live every week on satellite television across the Arab world from Abu Dhabi.
Contestants are graded on voice and style of recitation, but also on their subject matter, said Sultan al-Amimi, one of the three judges on the show and a manager of Abu Dhabi's Poetry Academy.
Over the past episodes, poets sitting on an elaborate stage before a live audience have recited odes to the beauty of Bedouin life and the glories of their rulers or mourning the gap between rich and poor.
Hilal is the first to launch a political attack - a brave move by a Saudi woman.

'My poetry has always been provocative,' she said. 'It's a way to express myself and give voice to Arab women, silenced by those who have hijacked our culture and our religion.'
Her poem was seen as a response to Sheik Abdul-Rahman al-Barrak, a prominent cleric in Saudi Arabia who recently issued a fatwa saying those who call for the mingling of men and women should be considered infidels, punishable by death.
But, more broadly, it was seen as addressing any of many hard-line clerics in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere in the region who hold a wide influence through TV programmes, university positions or websites.
'Killing a human being is so easy for them, it is always an option,' she told AP.
Poetry holds a prominent place in Arab culture, and some poets in the Middle East have a fan base akin to those of rock stars.
Hilal's 15-verse poem was in a form known as Nabati, native to nomadic tribes of the Arabian Peninsula. She criticised extremism that she told AP is 'creeping into our society' through fatwas.
'I have seen evil in the eyes of fatwas, at a time when the permitted is being twisted into the forbidden,' she said in the poem.

She called such edicts 'a monster that emerged from its hiding place' whenever 'the veil is lifted from the face of truth'.
She described hard-line clerics as 'vicious in voice, barbaric, angry and blind, wearing death as a robe cinched with a belt,' in an apparent reference to suicide bombers' explosives belts.
The three judges gave her the highest marks for her performance, praising her for addressing a controversial topic. That, plus voting from the 2,000 people in the audience and text messages from viewers, put her through to the final round.
'Hissa Hilal is a courageous poet,' said al-Amimi. 'She expressed her opinion against the kind of fatwas that affect people's lives and raised an alarm against these ad hoc fatwas coming from certain scholars who are inciting extremism.'
Fatwas are not legally binding - it is up to individual Muslims to follow them.

Clerics of all ideological stripes pronounced fatwas on nearly every aspect of people's lives, from how they should deal with members of other religions to what they can watch on television.
Hilal said she had heard about the death threats posted on Islamic extremist websites and was concerned, but 'not enough to send me into hiding'.
What's more on her mind is how sudden fame will change her quiet family life at home in the Saudi capital, Riyadh.
'I worry how I will be perceived after the show is over, when judgment is passed and people begin to talk about my performance and ideas,' said Hilal, a mother of four who has published poetry and previously was a poetry editor at the Arab daily Al-Hayat.

'I worry the lights of fame will affect my simple and quiet existence.'
The Million's Poet was launched in 2006 by the government's Abu Dhabi Authority for Culture and Heritage to encourage poetry.
In this, the fourth season, 48 contestants from 12 Arab countries competed, including several women along with Hilal.
On Wednesday, Hilal will be joined by five other poets in the final round. The winner of the $1.3million grand prize will be declared a week later on March 31.
Their topics are already known. One of Hilal's rivals will address terrorism. Another woman in the finals, Jaza al-Baqmi, will reflect on the role of women.
Hilal says her poem will tackle the media, but wouldn't elaborate so as not to spoil the surprise.
'My message to those who hear me is love, compassion and peace,' Hilal said. 'We all have to share a small planet and we need to learn how to live together.'


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This is the definition of bravery - a truly courageous woman taking on an absolutely disgusting society. It is people like her that will bring places like Saudi Arabia out of the Dark Ages. Sadly, I fear she won't live to see that day.

Cute Wolf
04-01-2010, 05:19
Yeah, and finally she could wears a bikini and not burqa.... :clown:

just bought a ticket to Canada and take shelter at Meth's palace

Fragony
04-01-2010, 07:54
Brave indeed, if it's smart is a different matter but power to her.

al Roumi
04-01-2010, 10:35
"On Wednesday, Hilal will be joined by five other poets in the final round. The winner of the $1.3million grand prize will be declared a week later on March 3.

Their topics are already known. One of Hilal's rivals will address terrorism. Another woman in the finals, Jaza al-Baqmi, will reflect on the role of women."

Sounds like quite a progressive programme... I never once thought these talent shows would be worth anything whatsoever to hummanity but this hopefully will be.

Ser Clegane
04-01-2010, 11:57
Respect

:bow:

And it is quite encouraging that this show is aired.

Hax
04-01-2010, 12:59
Excellent.

EDIT: Just a shame that you cited "The Daily Mail: Racist in public, so you don't have to be!"

Fragony
04-01-2010, 13:31
Respect

:bow:

And it is quite encouraging that this show is aired.

Doubt it, the prime aspect of control is the humiliation that is being part of a lie.

Ser Clegane
04-01-2010, 13:48
Doubt it, the prime aspect of control is the humiliation that is being part of a lie.

???

Fragony
04-01-2010, 14:00
???

Do you think propaganda is meant to make you believe things, it's only there to show how powerless you really are. The bigger the lie, the more will fall for it.

Ser Clegane
04-01-2010, 14:04
I somehow doubt that this TV show is part of an evil plan to show the people how powerless they are - this seems a bit far-fetched (especially considering that this show is from UAE and not from KSA)

Fragony
04-01-2010, 14:10
I somehow doubt that this TV show is part of an evil plan to show the people how powerless they are - this seems a bit far-fetched (especially considering that this show is from UAE and not from KSA)

I somehow doubt that you know any people from Saudi Arabia, trust me this is all staged. These things don't happen spontaniously over there.

Ser Clegane
04-01-2010, 14:17
Again, this show is not from Saudi Arabia but from a TV station in Abu Dhabi.

Not that it matters, but I know indeed some people from Saudi Arabia but I have not talked to them about this case - I am happy to hear what your Saudi Arabian acquaintances think about this case, though. Have you already talked to them?

Fragony
04-01-2010, 14:26
Again, this show is not from Saudi Arabia but from a TV station in Abu Dhabi.

Not that it matters, but I know indeed some people from Saudi Arabia but I have not talked to them about this case - I am happy to hear what your Saudi Arabian acquaintances think about this case, though. Have you already talked to them?

No haven't talked about that, they know how I feel about certain things and we aren't going to agree very soon on certain things, that a problem? See in it what you want to see sorry for being realistic.

Ser Clegane
04-01-2010, 14:48
You still haven't provided anything to back up your claim that this is staged, except that you know some Saudi people who you apparently do not talk to you about such things (and who, if I understood you correctly, might not even agree with you) and your claim that you are "realistic".

Sorry, that this is not quite enough to convince me that somehow a UAE TV station would stage this for the "buddies" (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/unitedarabemirates/7521219/Naval-battle-between-UAE-and-Saudi-Arabia-raises-fears-for-Gulf-security.html) in KSA or that the woman is a fraud (I am not quite sure which of the two you are insinuating, since you decide to not further expand on your claim)

Fragony
04-01-2010, 16:22
You still haven't provided anything to back up your claim that this is staged.

Well maybe an arab member is willing to back up my claim that absolutely nothing just happens over there. No protest riots about anything and certainly not this.

Banquo's Ghost
04-01-2010, 16:30
It is an incredibly brave act, even if the show is aired from outside the country. One assumes she will still have to return home.

And home is where another TV celebrity is facing the death penalty (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8598134.stm) for something much less challenging to the state authorities (but also broadcast from elsewhere). :no:

Ser Clegane
04-01-2010, 16:44
Well maybe an arab member is willing to back up my claim that absolutely nothing just happens over there. No protest riots about anything and certainly not this.

Could you please get a little bit more specific? What is your hypothesis here? Who made who do what for what reason in your opinion?

Fragony
04-01-2010, 16:54
Could you please get a little bit more specific? What is your hypothesis here? Who made who do what for what reason in your opinion?

If you want me to be more specific you really don't know what you are talking about.

Ser Clegane
04-01-2010, 17:59
Sorry, but I think to have a meaningful discussion, you at least have to say what you mean instead of making vague comments If for some reason you don't feel like you should do it, I will certainly not further push you and bow out instead.

:bow:

al Roumi
04-01-2010, 18:07
Sorry, but I think to have a meaningful discussion, you at least have to say what you mean instead of making vague comments If for some reason you don't feel like you should do it, I will certainly not further push you and bow out instead.

:bow:

:knight: Valiant effort Ser Clegane.

Fragony
04-01-2010, 18:11
Sorry, but I think to have a meaningful discussion, you at least have to say what you mean instead of making vague comments If for some reason you don't feel like you should do it, I will certainly not further push you and bow out instead.

:bow:

Ever been in Saudi Arabia? Bring your wife she will love it.

Hax
04-01-2010, 18:33
Ever been in Saudi Arabia? Bring your wife she will love it.

My grandmother was.

She had to wear a veil. That was about it.

Gregoshi
04-01-2010, 18:41
Ever been in Saudi Arabia? Bring your wife she will love it.
Is Ser's wife a poet? :smartass2:

Sasaki Kojiro
04-01-2010, 21:17
Frag seems to be suggesting that there's no real movement, they are just letting one woman speak out on TV to make it look like the society is more tolerant now. Or something like that. I don't know.

Fragony
04-08-2010, 20:12
And maybe I am wrong, this had to happen of course Rome wasn't built in a day http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8610237.stm but it's something, can't believe it was aired, there must be some pressure somewhere.

Found her entry. Can't understand a word but quite the performance anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdxqcX4mGpo

PanzerJaeger
04-08-2010, 21:25
Would have been nice if she had won... :(

Fragony
04-08-2010, 21:36
Would have been impossible, but since she's got third there must be a crowd that needs to be pleased.