The Revenge of Inishmore! [Concluded]

[pevergreen]

Welcome, welcome. I decided to not to a sequel to the Riftwar game, as many people were lost, so here I am. Inishmore. The first game was set up with two mafia families, the British, and the IRA fighting for control of a nice Irish town, named Inishmore. Lets see how it ended:


The day seemed like the longest yet. All three sat comtemplating their fates, their actions, themselves. Lord Winter and 'khaan spoke, and towards the end of the long day, so did El Diablo.

It finally came to a close. Inishmore was either safe, or gone. 'khaan had been chosen. The final choice.

'khaan sighed. He knew he was going to die. He took off his boxing gloves, which he wore at silly times, for laughs, and placed his neck through the noose. The box from under his feet was taken out and the drop cut off his air supply, leaving him kicking in the air and dieing slowly.

*****

Later that night, Lord Winter and El Diablo sat drinking. A friendly black and white cat came walking in, rubbing himself against their legs. Without a word, El Diablo pulled out his handgun.

":daisy: cat, Thats Padriac's cat!"

Lord Winter stared in disbelief.
"You canna be serious?"

":daisy: yeah. It caused all this killing. I say we kill it."

"Yah. Lets do it!"

They both drew sight on the cat, but couldn't stop trembling.

"Aye...I can't do it."

"Neither can I."

The night continued in peace.

Town Victory.

However, Inishmore was not satisfied. They had watched the British die, they had watched most of the IRA die, except Brendan.


The gong rung. Time was up. Diana Abnoba was crestfallen. His time was up. With one last look at Askthepizzaguy he made his way to the gallows. The noose slipped round his neck and was tightened. Was this how it was to end? Was this how years of english opression continued? It should not be, it could not be! With a yell, he pulled off his eye patch and yelled "Damn you Padraic! You died too easily. I never got my revenge. Run Brendan!"

As if it was a command, Askthepizzaguy took off, running out of the square. "I'll carry on without you Christy."

Christy jumped off the gallows, breaking his neck.

The Inishmorians want blood. Brendan's blood. They've sent 5 of their townsmen to the location where they think Brendan is, and they'll kill everyone to try to find any sign of him. Its up the the English citizens of this sleepy town to stop them before they spread terror all across Britannia.

Revenge of Inishmore is somewhere between vanilla and crazy, in terms of setup. I'm looking for 41 people.
As it was in the first, so it is in the second.

If we get 41 people, there will be 5 mafia members, and 16 other role PMs. That makes 20 vanilla townies.


Rules:

Voting must be bolded and in the format of Vote: Beefy187, for an unvote, please use Unvote, Vote: Beefy187 or even better, include the person you are unvoting. If the votes are not bolded, your vote will not be counted.
To avoid the WoG, you must register a valid vote in 75% plus in number of day phases.
Vote: Abstain and Vote: No Lynch are not valid choices.

Role PMs: You may not reveal in private. You may not, in private, discuss, allude to, hint or in any way attempt to convince a person/party that you have a certain ability or role. You may not communicate any results you may have. You are, however, free to discuss and make plans with anyone you choose via any out of thread communication.

Screenshots are not allowed. This means no IM logs, no IRC chat, no PM or any other private communication from anyone. Anything that can be publicly seen is fair game.

Revealing of roles post-mortem: The host may place clues in a writeup, or outright say what role a person is.

Rules for the dead:
You are free to continue discussing as you would normally in and outside of the thread, with the condition that you do not reveal anything private you may have known while alive. (So no post death public reveals of role, or even private reveals)
You may not vote for anyone, even as a joke. If I see a dead person make a vote, even if in massive font with silly faces, I will 'ask' that person to refrain from posting in the thread again.

Once the game has ended, please do not reveal your role straight away, wait for the host to post a role list.

Each phase will last for approximately 24 hours, or as close to that as the host can manage. A strict deadline policy applies. If the cutoff for actions or voting is 9:00pm, anything posted/sent at 9:00pm is accepted, anything at 9:01pm is invalid.

Ties: In the event of a tie, something will happen. It may not always be the same, and it may not always be pleasant and/or fair, as a few players from the last game can attest to.

Lynching: In this game, once lynched, you are not dead, you are simply imprisoned...

Any kills in this game are to be written by those who perform them. If nothing if given, or changes need to be made for in game purposes (defended, role blocked etc) the host will modify the kill with no regard to how good it may have been before he touched it.

Summary lists will be provided at each phase end, and will include the usual

Alive:

Lynched

Dead

WoG (added as needed)

And if other categories are needed, they will be added at the time.



Signups: 39
Sasaki Kojiro
Greyblades
Secura
GeneralHankercheif
Yaseikhaan
Csargo
Beefy187
Yaropolk
A Very Super Market
TinCow
Lord Winter
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Askthepizzaguy
Methos
White_eyes:D
atheotes
autolycus
Winston Hughes
Subotan
Chaotix
Diamondeye
Joooray
Reenk Roink
Sigurd
Thermal Mercury
Captain Blackadder
Niklas
Psychonaut
YLC
Khazaar
Crazed Rabbit
Centurion1
Renata
Scienter
Warman
Seamus
Myddraal
Zack

[Sasaki Kojiro]

In.

[Greyblades]

In.

[Secura]

In.

[GeneralHankerchief]

No Welsh this game? *looks around shiftily*

In fo sho. :yes:

[seireikhaan]

:charge:

[Csargo]

:soapbox:

[Beefy187]

In!!

[Yaropolk]

i'm in

[A Very Super Market]

In.

[TinCow]

Shadow Fort is close enough to over for me to feel comfortable joining. :bow:

[Lord Winter]

In.

[slashandburn]

Townies turn into mafia? Wierd. In anyway.

[Splitpersonality]

In! :D

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Yaseikhaan

[Methos]

In.

[White_eyes:D]

Why not? IN the tie thing in the last game, started the downfall of the mafia....I have mixed feelings about it:laugh4:(Since I was the one who made that tie:shame:)

[seireikhaan]

Why not? IN the tie thing in the last game, started the downfall of the mafia....I have mixed feelings about it:laugh4:(Since I was the one who made that tie:shame:)
I would blame the whole downfall thing on MAD instead.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I would blame the whole downfall thing on MAD instead.

Water under the bridge. I won't restart this if you won't. :stare:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I would blame the whole downfall thing on MAD instead.

MAD = my avaricious derriere?

[atheotes]

In :bow:

[autolycus]

What the heck, in.

[Winston Hughes]

In.

[Subotan]

My Northern Irish birthright calls me.

[Chaotix]

In. Hopefully I don't get killed within the first three rounds for the fourth time in a row. :stare:

[Diamondeye]

No Inishmore puns yet? I guess it's up to me, then...

:laugh4:

[Joooray]

I feel kinda inish as well. :embarassed:

[Reenk Roink]

:bow:

Wouldn't play but you know who's hosting. ~:flirt:

[pevergreen]

:bow:

Wouldn't play but you know who's hosting. ~:flirt:

Should I change my facebook to "In a relationship"? :tongue:

[Sigurd]

All right... I am out of the shadow fort. Sign me up.

[Renata]

Hey Sigurd, could you look into why Niklas (new member, from CFC) is unable to post? He was thinking of signing up for this.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hey Sigurd, could you look into why Niklas (new member, from CFC) is unable to post? He was thinking of signing up for this.

Most likely he needs to request access to the Gameroom. He can do so from here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/profile.php?do=editusergroups) and we'll let him in once he does. :yes:

[Thermal]

(in)

[pevergreen]

Fixed up an error in the OP, and notification that now there are 22 roles in total, not 21.

[Captain Blackadder]

With myself dead in all the games apart from shakespere sign me up.

[Niklas]

With my newfound posting abilities, I'll join. :)

[pevergreen]

You're from CFC, yes?

If so, you better not be that Nictel bloke.

Regardless, welcome etc etc.

We're over 2/3 of the way to starting. 13 more people needed, though afew more wouldn't hurt.

[naut]

In.

[Diamondeye]

With my newfound posting abilities, I'll join. :)

Welcome :bow:

Finally you gave in to the temptation that is more mafia games.

High five, Renata :tongue:

[Niklas]

You're from CFC, yes?

If so, you better not be that Nictel bloke.
I am indeed from CFC, but I would be that Niklas (http://forums.civfanatics.com/member.php?u=54092) bloke.

[ULC]

IN.

[Khazaar]

In.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I'm in. I better not be killed right off.

Or have a role where I can't talk. :stare:

CR

[pevergreen]

I'm in. I better not be killed right off.

Or have a role where I can't talk. :stare:

CR

I got a special role JUST for you.

You can speak as much as you want. But you'll sound like a lady to everyone!

[Methos]

You're from CFC, yes?

If so, you better not be that Nictel bloke.


I am indeed from CFC, but I would be that Niklas (http://forums.civfanatics.com/member.php?u=54092) bloke.

At least he doesn't remember that it was us you that killed him so early in the NOTW game. :hide:

[pevergreen]

Didn't follow it, don't really care.

[pevergreen]

Recruitment PM sent out.

[Centurion1]

..........and answered in for the win.

[Renata]

Me too.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

In.

[pevergreen]

Ok, enough waiting around, starting a bit later today with 39 people.

Alive: 39/39
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
autolycus
Beefy187
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Chaotix
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
Diamondeye
GeneralHankercheif
Greyblades
Joooray
Khazaar
Lord Winter
Methos
Myddraal
Niklas
Psychonaut
Reenk Roink
Renata
Sasaki Kojiro
Scienter
Seamus
Secura
Sigurd
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Subotan
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
Warman
White_eyes:D
Winston Hughes
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Zack

Lynched: 0/39

Killed: 0/39

[pevergreen]

The boat shattered on the rocks.

"Well lads, we're here. We somehow made it onto English territory. What'da say we hit the closest town and just work our way throughout England until we find Brendan?"

"Works for me!"


The Inishmorians have arrived, the scene is set, 5 mafia, 18 other roles. Who will emerge victorious?

If you have not received a PM from me now, you are, unfortunately, one of the 16 vanilla townies.

Alive: 39/39
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
autolycus
Beefy187
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Chaotix
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
Diamondeye
GeneralHankercheif
Greyblades
Joooray
Khazaar
Lord Winter
Methos
Myrddraal
Niklas
Psychonaut
Reenk Roink
Renata
Sasaki Kojiro
Scienter
Seamus
Secura
Sigurd
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Subotan
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
Warman
White_eyes:D
Winston Hughes
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Zack

Lynched: 0/39

Killed: 0/39

Day 1 will end at 11:00pm AEST (GMT +10) on Friday 16/4/2010. That is 31 hours, 55 minutes from the time of this post.

Good luck all, any questions, just ask!

[Reenk Roink]

Vote: Thermal Mercury

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote:Khazaar

[Crazed Rabbit]

vote: sasaki

Death, death I say!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Check the rules CR--votes don't count if the name isn't properly capitalized.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I see no such rule.

To be safe, though;
Vote: Sasaki Kojiro

CR

[pevergreen]

Check the rules CR--votes don't count if the name isn't properly capitalized.

False.

I'm not going to ask people to type out, for example, Sasaki Kojiro every time, simply Sasaki would work. Likewise, CR is fine, ATPG, split etc.

[seireikhaan]

Vote: crazed rabbit. How'd you miss that rule? C'mon.

[seireikhaan]

Dangit, ninja'd by the host.

Unvote: crazed rabbit

Vote: Secura

[Crazed Rabbit]

How'd you miss that rule? C'mon.

I can't miss what's not there.

You're next!

CR

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: autolycus

My sweater tonight is grey argyle. I *#%! hate argyle.

[Crazed Rabbit]

A five letter swear word makes no sense.

CR

[seireikhaan]

Unvote: Secura

Vote: Crazed Rabbit

Get back to finishing your game. :whip:

[Crazed Rabbit]

:stare:

CR

[ULC]

Vote: YLC

[Niklas]

Voting for yourself on the first day is an obvious non-mafia move, and thus by some WIFOM magic...

vote: YLC

[Subotan]

Vote:YLC
All aboard the Cyclopean, unimaginable horror of a bandwagon!

[Secura]

I hadn't even noticed this game had started until I saw the game pop up as recently posted in. >.<

vote: Subotan

Questionable bandwagon vote.

[Winston Hughes]

All aboard the Cyclopean, unimaginable horror of a bandwagon!

Huzzah!

vote: YLC

[Beefy187]

Vote: Diamondeyes

For Mrs Ireland.

[Sigurd]

Any new players around?
Hmmm... I spy Niklas, Zack and Seamus.. oh, and Warman too!!

vote: Seamus
Welcome to the gameroom :beam:

[TinCow]

Vote: autolycus

My sweater tonight is grey argyle. I *#%! hate argyle.


A five letter swear word makes no sense.

CR

There are only 4 symbols in his curse, not 5. :stare:

Vote: CR

[Captain Blackadder]

Sorry didnt realise the game had started yet.

Vote Warman

Have a welcome back vote

[Greyblades]

Random org says vote: scienter

[autolycus]

vote: Lord Winter The House of Lords is worthless!

[Winston Hughes]

The House of Lords is worthless!

Treachery!

vote: autolycus

[Subotan]

Why is Winston not unvoting?

:(

[Csargo]

Vote:Sasaki

[Joooray]

No, no bandwagon on day one, me no like that.
But big ol' random.org is always wise, so Vote: Lord Winter.

[ULC]

Unvote:, Vote: Subotan. FoS: Winston Hughes

Don't encourage runaway bandwagons when a person has yet to reply.

[Winston Hughes]

Why is Winston not unvoting?

:(

Because he's an idiot.

For clarity: unvote: YLC; vote: autolycus

[Winston Hughes]

Don't encourage runaway bandwagons when a person has yet to reply.

I'll get it right this time, though...

unvote: autolycus; vote: YLC

[Renata]

:laugh4:

Zack needs a proper .org welcome, too, why is everybody neglecting him? Poor Zack.

vote: Zack

[pevergreen]

Role PMs: You may not reveal in private. You may not, in private, discuss, allude to, hint or in any way attempt to convince a person/party that you have a certain ability or role. You may not communicate any results you may have. You are, however, free to discuss and make plans with anyone you choose via any out of thread communication.

I've been asked a question about this, to clarify it a bit:


You can't reveal in private, nor can you say things like "I'll take care of X tonight". But if you were placed in a group or something at the start of the game, you'd be free to talk and such as soon as you wanted.

Basically you can only form a pro town group, if you reveal in thread. Other people can then also reveal in thread, then you would be able to go off privately and collaborate, but your enemies would have your reveal, and so you'd be short lived.

Yes, people could techincally reveal to you privately afterwards, but I'm hoping they dont, and if they do, please let me know, or point them towards the rules. Anything in this thread, is fair game to be talked about outside of thread.

Thank you.

:bow:

[ULC]

Huzzah!

vote: YLC

You will...


Treachery!

vote: autolycus

..have to forgive me here...


Because he's an idiot.

For clarity: unvote: YLC; vote: autolycus

...but...


I'll get it right this time, though...

unvote: autolycus; vote: YLC

...what is up with your erratic behavior? Not to meta-game too much, but you claim to care in one game, yet are apparantly free to act thoughtlessly here. Your behavior is inconsistent and destructive.

Unvote:, Vote: Winston Hughes.

[Winston Hughes]

...what is up with your erratic behavior? Not to meta-game too much, but you claim to care in one game, yet are apparantly free to act thoughtlessly here. Your behavior is inconsistent and destructive.

It's the first day here, and there's nothing to go on, other than you voting for yourself and then OMGUSing on other people for joining you. If you don't want to start a bandwagon, don't cast the first vote.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Sorry didnt realise the game had started yet.

Vote Warman

Have a welcome back vote


Ahhh smucks, thanks! :clown:


Any new players around?
Hmmm... I spy Niklas, Zack and Seamus.. oh, and Warman too!!

vote: Seamus
Welcome to the gameroom :beam:

Thank ye :clown:




I hate bandwagoning but......


Vote:YLC

[ULC]

It's the first day here, and there's nothing to go on, other than you voting for yourself and then OMGUSing on other people for joining you. If you don't want to start a bandwagon, don't cast the first vote.

I don't and never have liked randomly voting, and in the absence of anyone else to vote for, I will lodge a vote against myself.

But since the town has decided essentially I am first day lynch, partly because they are lazy, then I'll just focus on the Shakespearean game and watch from the sidelines. No point in arguing with absurdity.

[Zack]

Is it really absurd that people vote for you after you vote for yourself? I think not.

Vote: YLC

[ULC]

Is it really absurd that people vote for you after you vote for yourself? I think not.

Vote: YLC

*sighs* I see 5 easy way out votes, 5 lazy townies. Not one of you has a reason to vote for me, except I voted for myself. Now I know why I get tired of mafia so quickly.

[Winston Hughes]

*sighs* I see 5 easy way out votes, 5 lazy townies. Not one of you has a reason to vote for me, except I voted for myself. Now I know why I get tired of mafia so quickly.

Because people who vote for themselves look scummy?

But I agree that runaway bandwagons aren't helpful at this stage, so I'll unvote: YLC and go back to vote: autolycus, until he explains why he has no respect for our second chamber.

[autolycus]

The House of Commons wields all the real power.

[Winston Hughes]

The House of Commons wields all the real power.

So you only respect power?

[Diamondeye]

I'm inclined to vote YLC on principle. Voting for yourself and then tearing up when people follow through?

But I won't, not for now at least. So... Vote:S&B

[ULC]

I'm inclined to vote YLC on principle. Voting for yourself and then tearing up when people follow through?

But I won't, not for now at least. So... Vote:S&B

[Try again - GH]

[Askthepizzaguy]

vote: Yaseikhaan

Because I am specifically barred from abstaining.

[Scienter]

I think the deadline is coming soon. So, I'll Vote:Zack for the new guy. I don't think he has enough votes to actually be lynched anyway. ;)

[Crazed Rabbit]

There are only 4 symbols in his curse, not 5. :stare:


How does that invalidate my statement?

CR

[Myrddraal]

Warman?

Vote: Warman

Welcome back ~:grouphug:

[pevergreen]

I think the deadline is coming soon. So, I'll Vote:Zack for the new guy. I don't think he has enough votes to actually be lynched anyway. ;)

You've got...17 hours or so.

[Crazed Rabbit]

unvote: Sasaki
vote: Tincow

I think he has a role (funny how hosting a game gives you a lot of clues about people).

CR

[ULC]

You know what, screw this - I'm going to claim Mason. I hope, I HOPE my partners remain active, because I am not.

[Scienter]

You've got...17 hours or so.

I fail at time conversion. :embarassed:

[Scienter]

There are only 4 symbols in his curse, not 5. :stare:

Vote: CR

THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!

[pevergreen]

I fail at time conversion. :embarassed:

Its ok, I don't understand when American's put in the time zones.

I try to put actual hours from the time of my post though, so its easy for all. Since I presume everyone has post times set at their local time, they just go, oh 24 hours from the time of that post, easy!

[Myrddraal]

Unvote. Vote DiamondEye

because the smiley in your signature reads slowly.

[Scienter]

Its ok, I don't understand when American's put in the time zones.

I try to put actual hours from the time of my post though, so its easy for all. Since I presume everyone has post times set at their local time, they just go, oh 24 hours from the time of that post, easy!

No biggie, I was reading your post pre-coffee. My brain needs caffeine to start working in the morning. :coffeenews:

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Who let all the chicas into the Gameroom? If this keeps up, our .org "old boys" club will succumb to superior feminine intellect!

:smug2:

Welcome to all the new names I know not.



Finally got 'round to reading the PM so I thought I'd say "hey."

Hey.


Dun Anghosa.

[Renata]

Oh man, I'm not in the mood to deal with that last post.

As for YLC's claim, I offer up the absent splitpersonality for a bandwagon vote while this is dealt with.

vote: Split

[Diamondeye]

Unvote. Vote DiamondEye

because the smiley in your signature reads slowly.

Smileys have small brains :shrug:

[Askthepizzaguy]

THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!

Oh I LOVE that episode.

[Thermal]

We need a tally, wheres JHT when you need him :tongue:

vote: autolycus

Too quiet....I don't see any reason not to add to one of about 6 bandwagons with no other evidence to go by.

[A Very Super Market]

Vote: autolycus

Someone said that they don't like bandwagons. I do.

[ULC]

...unvote:, Vote: Autolycus.

Selflish attempt to save myself.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

unvote, vote:autolycus

[naut]

Blatant WIFOM: I kept seeing this game pop up in the Gameroom with new posts, and thought: "Oh I didn't sign-up for it so I don't need to look into it." Then I realised.... "I signed up for this." :freak: Brain fart.

vote:autolycus

I brought snacks for the ride on the bandwagon.

[Zack]

http://marks4glue.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/bandwagon.jpg

[autolycus]

Not much to say to a first day bandwagon. I'm sad you're lynching me, but I'm just a vanilla, so there are certainly worse picks.

[naut]

Unvote: autolycus

Vote: Warman

Have a vote to go with your Milk/Cashews.

[Csargo]

Unvote:Sasaki, Vote:Seamus

Seems like it's been forever since I've seen you in a mafia game. If not then I'm a moron :stupido:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

He was in the Shadow Fort.

[Csargo]

He was in the Shadow Fort.

Then obviously the second part of my post is correct. :stupid:

[Splitpersonality]

I'm here, I'm here, don't get your horses...bunched...up? I don't know, it's been a long day.

Uh... let's see.... who's not been randomly voted for...ah there's one.

Vote: Myddraal
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Myrddraal

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote: Myddraal
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Myrddraal



What on earth???

[Splitpersonality]

I have absolutely no idea, all I did was vote Myddraal, apparently the internet finds discourse with that :shrug:

Didn't want to edit it in case that wasn't allowed in this game.

[ULC]

It appears it is Google that specifically finds offense with it.

I suggest you change it, lest the spider and bot gods deem you a heretic :P

[atheotes]

I think the deadline is coming soon. So, I'll Vote:Zack for the new guy. I don't think he has enough votes to actually be lynched anyway. ;)

That is a nice way lodge a vote without raising any alarms... vote: Scienter

[ULC]

Just a heads up I have a flashy new signature :bow:

[Myrddraal]

I'm glad the internet considers me ! important]

[pevergreen]

20 minutes remaining.

[Subotan]

What the heck let's get someone killed

Unvote: YLC, Vote Autolycus

[pevergreen]

The first day had drawn to a close, the peaceful English people continued about their business much as usual, as nothing strange had happened. At some point, during one of the many tea breaks of the day, the group had collectively decided, as civilised people do, that they should put one of these people in prison until they had figured out who these savages from Ireland are. This person was autolycus.

He didn't seem too put out.
"Cheerio chaps, I'll be seeing you back when this is all done, rightio?"

The prison guard gave him his night cup of tea, and autolycus settled down in the comfortable bed with a nice book, leaving the trouble to the rest of them. It may have been prison, but in this town, they made prison nice, since it was usually crime free.


Tally:


6 - autolycus
2 - Diamondeye, Lord Winter, Scienter, Seamus, Subotan, Warman
1 - Crazed Rabbit, Myrddraal, slashandburn, split, Thermal Mercury, TinCow, Yaseikhaan, YLC, Zack

Alive: 38/39
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
Beefy187
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Chaotix
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
Diamondeye
GeneralHankercheif
Greyblades
Joooray
Khazaar
Lord Winter
Methos
Myrddraal
Niklas
Psychonaut
Reenk Roink
Renata
Sasaki Kojiro
Scienter
Seamus
Secura
Sigurd
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Subotan
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
Warman
White_eyes:D
Winston Hughes
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Zack

Lynched: 1/39
autolycus

Killed: 0/39


It is now Night 1. Please have your orders (and kill write-ups, if applicable) in by when the phase ends, 23 hours and 42 minutes from now (11pm Saturday GMT+10 17/4/2010).

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Sure is dark outside :(.

[Joooray]

That was a weird bandwagon on autolycus, especially after the wagon on YLC which had somewhat more basis, but I'm not sure he would have been a better choice.
I feel bad for auto though, because I think he dies quite early in games quite often from what I remember.

Anyway, I'm afraid to say that I'll be gone from tomorrow (Saturday) noon until Monday morning due to me having to work at a place where they don't have internet.

[Centurion1]

ok im caught up now.

[Chaotix]

Apologies to pever for missing this round. I've been out all day, just got back an hour ago.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Stare of Death: Tincow

Should be interesting in the morning.

CR

[TinCow]

Stare of Death: Tincow

Should be interesting in the morning.

CR

What did I do now?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I like it. Abbreviates as SOD. Gives us the chance to say "SOD you, mate!"

[pevergreen]

Winston Hughes was sitting all alone eating chicken soup, when he heard a knock on the door. "Well who could that be?" he wondered. When he opened the door, he saw two men holding a big package. "Sign here" said the gruff voice. The box suddenly opened up, and out popped a monkey. "I didn't order a monkey" said Winston, as the monkey hopped into his arms and began playing the cymbals. "That's not our problem" said one of the two men. The monkey screamed at Winston and slammed the cymbals against his head, and everything went blank. When he woke up, Winston was tied to a chair in the middle of a dimly lit room. There was a table to his left, and just within reach was a gun, and a note that said "use me to escape". He was unsure what that meant, until the loudspeaker in the far corner of the room began to play a familiar melody.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2WGfqfQ6HM

He gladly put the gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger.


Myrddraal was enjoying a game of mafia on his computer, but he felt like someone was watching him. This was never a good sign. Sure enough, just outside his house, a pair of beekeepers slid a tube through the pet door. The tube led all the way to their truck, which had a big sign on it which read "killer bees". They then waited by the front door with guns drawn, and waited for the inevitable screams. Myrddraal heard the omnious sound of buzzing and ran for the back door instead, but was running too fast to see the nearly invisible piano wire, running across the back porch at neck level. His body ended up in the back lawn, 7 kilograms lighter.

Khazaar was walking along, enjoying the brief break between the rain showers. He thought most people would be home this time of night, but he saw two men walking along, obviously drunk. He paid them no notice, as he didn't know them by sight, but they stopped their laughter when he passed them. One turned around and said, "Hey mate, do you think this guy had a face full of pimples when he was younger?" Spying an article of their clothing and seeing the oppurtunity for a joke, Khazaar replied "Acne." The two men's faces drew solem, they dropped their bottles and brought out knives. When he was found in the morning, Khazaar had little cuts all over his face, but his death was from dual stab wounds in his buttocks.

Reenk Roink was in his bed having just finished reading an obscure book and was just happily dreaming of his one true love, pevergreen. Oh my, what a dream it was. But it was cut short by the door banging open. Reenk shot up and his hand went to his trusty sword. The intruder brashly entered the room and laughed when he saw Reenk in bed with a sword clutched in his hand.
"You silly english types, always with the swords and the tea and the floral bedsheets!"

"Silly English types? No Englishmen is that mean to his countrymen...if you arent English, what are you?"

"Can't you tell from my outrageous accent? I'm French!"

With that, the moustached intruder grabbed Reenk, threw him over his shoulder and ran away.

Two men stood at the edge of beach and road. Barefoot, sipping from their beer cans, wearing singlets and generally not looking too clean.

"Its nothing like home mate."

"That she aint. But bugger it, what are we gunna do about it?"

"Good point."

A man was walking past, and seeing the oppurtunity to make some new friends, went over and started up a conversation. By the time they had finished and parted their own ways, the man left with wonderous tales from two short spoken people and a new game to play.
As the man walked home, he replayed the scene.

He was fishing a knife out of his pocket to open one of the cans, and when he pulled it out, the other two men didn't seem surprised, but glanced at each other. One reached into his pocket and pulled an object out.

"That aint a knife. This is a knife."

"Thats a spoon..."

"Ah, I seen you've played Knifeyspoony before."

At that moment, nothing in his life had ever seemed so funny. He was sure there people were his new best friends. He'd follow them to the ends of the earth.

Alive: 34/39
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
Beefy187
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Chaotix
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
Diamondeye
GeneralHankercheif
Greyblades
Joooray
Lord Winter
Methos
Niklas
Psychonaut
Renata
Sasaki Kojiro
Scienter
Seamus
Secura
Sigurd
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Subotan
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
Warman
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Zack

Lynched: 1/39
autolycus

Killed: 3/39
Winston Hughes
Myrddraal
Khazaar

Missing: 1/39
Reenk Roink

Note about the Missing group: Players listed under 'Missing' are effectively dead. They cannot vote, nor can they be voted and they cannot perform or be targeted by Night Actions. They may, at a later date, however, return.

It is now Day 2. Day will end in 24 hours, 25 minutes (Midnight Sunday GMT+10)

[Diamondeye]

Alive 38? Are people who've been killed alive?

Also, vote: S&B

[Centurion1]

vote: diamondeye

why sb

[ULC]

o.O Who is S&B? slashandburn?

Vote: Sasaki when in doubt.

Because voting for oneself gets an unwarranted bandwagon.

[pevergreen]

Alive 38? Are people who've been killed alive?

Also, vote: S&B

Totally forgot about that, changing it now.

[TinCow]

Note about the Missing group: Players listed under 'Missing' are effectively dead. They cannot vote, nor can they be voted and they cannot perform or be targeted by Night Actions. They may, at a later date, however, return.

This does not sound like something we want to happen. It's likely that anyone who returns from 'missing' will have been altered in some way. Big FOS on anyone that happens to.

Vote: YLC

Seemed a bit too defensive yesterday.

[ULC]

Unvote:, Vote: Winston

I still want you to explain your behavior now that I think on it, and FoS: Zack and Subotan

[TinCow]

Unvote:, Vote: Winston

I still want you to explain your behavior now that I think on it, and FoS: Zack and Subotan

Winston is dead. Perhaps you should explain yours.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So YLC claimed masons or something and there was a deal about him voting autolycus out of self preservation, but there doesn't seem to have been a big wagon on YLC.

[Secura]

but there doesn't seem to have been a big wagon on YLC.

There were four or five votes on him within a short space of time for no constructive reason whatsoever; were this a bigger game I would link directly, but instead I suggest you direct yourself to Post #67 onwards.

[Winston Hughes]

Unvote:, Vote: Winston

Pretending you didn't notice my horrific death, eh?

[ULC]

Pretending you didn't notice my horrific death, eh?

Oh *facepalm* I even read the danged write up.

Unvote:, Vote: Subotan.

[Csargo]

Vote:DE

[Niklas]

I don't like the way YLC defended himself yesterday, nor how he got off the hook. Mason eh? vote: YLC

[Winston Hughes]

Oh *facepalm* I even read the danged write up.

I'm sure you did... :brood:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

unvote, vote:YLC

Said masons haven't come forward it seems.

[Secura]

vote: Subotan

I see no reason to change my vote from the previous round.

[ULC]

unvote, vote:YLC

Said masons haven't come forward it seems.

That would be because that's X innocents to now target? Why would my partners come forward to kill themselves?

You know what, if the town is insistent on simply suiciding by killing it's power roles, then have at it. if you don't want our help, then so be it.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The "power" of the mason role comes from the fact that if one of them is up for lynch, the others can vouch for him.

[Secura]

The "power" of the mason role comes from the fact that if one of them is up for lynch, the others can vouch for him.

Does that not then paint them as a target for the mafia?

[ULC]

The "power" of the mason role comes from the fact that if one of them is up for lynch, the others can vouch for him.

No, the power of the mason role is to know that others are innocent. I am not, nor would I ask, my fellow masons to vouch for me publicly. I'm not going to offer the mafia targets Sasaki, and if I go down then that's fine with me, there are others you can't just wontonly accuse of because you don't know them. I mean at what point does it make sense for them to come forward? You want randies to come forward and say that yes I am mason and they are too? How can anyone validate that claim?

Accept that I am a mason, or not, I can't fight it because I'm not putting other innocents in danger just for me.

[Chaotix]

Vote: Subotan

I investigated him and he is mafia.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

No, that's incorrect. The power of the mason role is that it prevents a mislynch.

They didn't kill you even though you claimed mason.

If we just let people off the hook for claiming mason, it would be a great mafia claim.

Having a couple masons killed is no big loss compared to a mislynch. There are roles that it hurts the town much more to have nightkilled, and mislynches are very bad for the town.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Case in point...

unvote, vote:Subotan

[Csargo]

Unvote:DE, Vote:Subotan

[ULC]

Vote: Subotan

I investigated him and he is mafia.

Rather abrupt there.


No, that's incorrect. The power of the mason role is that it prevents a mislynch.

They didn't kill you even though you claimed mason.

If we just let people off the hook for claiming mason, it would be a great mafia claim.

Having a couple masons killed is no big loss compared to a mislynch. There are roles that it hurts the town much more to have nightkilled, and mislynches are very bad for the town.

No, again, it's to have an informed minority on the side of the town, not to prevent a mislynch.

And of course they wouldn't kill me - why bother when they have a town that's downright self-destructive to do it for you? As you said, claiming mason would be a good cover for a mafioso, if it weren't downright stupid to claim it. Are you insulting my intelligence Sasaki?


Case in point...

unvote, vote:Subotan

Oh, so now we vote with the tide :P.

[Secura]

Vote: Subotan

I investigated him and he is mafia.

Really... my gut feeling was right? o_O

[Chaotix]

Really... my gut feeling was right? o_O

No, not really. I was joking. :laugh4:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

No, again, it's to have an informed minority on the side of the town, not to prevent a mislynch.

This is false. Anyone can talk privately in this game, and you always have a few people you think are innocent. The ability to prevent a mislynch is absolutely huge.


And of course they wouldn't kill me - why bother when they have a town that's downright self-destructive to do it for you?

But we aren't going to kill you, because one of your mason partners will claim before you are lynched, right?



As you said, claiming mason would be a good cover for a mafioso, if it weren't downright stupid to claim it. Are you insulting my intelligence Sasaki?

No it isn't a bad claim for mafia.

unvote, vote:YLC

[Niklas]

There are only two alternatives. Either you are truly a mason, and there's no way for us to find out the truth of it since your buddy won't reveal. Or you're a mafia claiming mason, to get off the hook. If you are the former, no great loss for, but you're fighting awfully hard to make it seem that way. Which is more indicative of the latter, I'd say. I'll keep my vote on YLC.

[Renata]

Three dead and one missing might make me less inclined to call YLC on his lack of confirmation than I would otherwise be -- except that it makes his overnight survival even less explicable. Am I really supposed to believe the mafia bypassed killing a claimed mason in favor of several seemingly random targets just so we'd lynch him today? Why? So they gain one mislynch? By the odds we are probably going to mislynch in any case. I don't buy that.

The other option is that they decided to avoid the only obvious target for a doctor role. This I can buy. I think it would be more appropriate to lynch YLC if other power roles are claiming (but no masons) and he keeps living.

Chaotix, you're a lunatic.

[ULC]

No, not really. I was joking. :laugh4:

:brood: Not nice.


This is false. Anyone can talk privately in this game, and you always have a few people you think are innocent. The ability to prevent a mislynch is absolutely huge.

But we aren't going to kill you, because one of your mason partners will claim before you are lynched, right?

No it isn't a bad claim for mafia.

unvote, vote:YLC

Sasaki, your specifically targeting me, using some of the weirdest logic yet. First of all, the ability to prevent a mislynch is NOT huge, it's a stupid maneuver that nets the mafia two clean targets. Your point that anyone can talk privately is bogus, you know it - Mason's know for sure they are innocent, while simply chatting with another person or thinking that they are innocent is not the same thing, far from it.

And it is a bad claim for a mafioso, and you know it, especially based upon your logic. No one is going to save me from the lynch, especially not my mason partners, whom I will tell specifically not to say anything, because they are not going to risk their lives. As long as they are alive, they can work together, and act as a block.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Three dead and one missing might make me less inclined to call YLC on his lack of confirmation than I would otherwise be -- except that it makes his overnight survival even less explicable. Am I really supposed to believe the mafia bypassed killing a claimed mason in favor of several seemingly random targets just so we'd lynch him today? Why? So they gain one mislynch? By the odds we are probably going to mislynch in any case. I don't buy that.


Right--and why would they think they could get us to mislynch him when his mason partners could just claim?


Sasaki, your specifically targeting me, using some of the weirdest logic yet. First of all, the ability to prevent a mislynch is NOT huge, it's a stupid maneuver that nets the mafia two clean targets.

At three kills a night, a mislynch means 4 dead townies.


Your point that anyone can talk privately is bogus, you know it - Mason's know for sure they are innocent, while simply chatting with another person or thinking that they are innocent is not the same thing, far from it.

It's a minor difference at best. How do you think pro town networks get started?


And it is a bad claim for a mafioso, and you know it, especially based upon your logic. No one is going to save me from the lynch, especially not my mason partners, whom I will tell specifically not to say anything, because they are not going to risk their lives. As long as they are alive, they can work together, and act as a block.

My logic, which, if it wasn't being argued by me wouldn't have been strongly argued. I don't think it's come up before in a .org game.

You would let yourself be mislynched so that one of your partners isn't killed? This sounds more like an excuse for no one claiming to be your partner, sorry.

[Csargo]

Unvote:Subotan, Vote:Chaotix

[TinCow]

That would be because that's X innocents to now target? Why would my partners come forward to kill themselves?

You know what, if the town is insistent on simply suiciding by killing it's power roles, then have at it. if you don't want our help, then so be it.

I don't care how much spin you put on it, a mason is not a power role.

[Secura]

unvote, vote: Sasaki

[Secura]

Bah, posted prematurely.

Sasaki, why are you pressing for masons to reveal themselves in-thread?

[TinCow]

Bah, posted prematurely.

Sasaki, why are you pressing for masons to reveal themselves in-thread?

The entire point of the mason role is that if one of them is at risk of a lynch, the other can reveal to prevent it. In a game like this where townies cannot do night actions, that's their ONLY purpose.

[Renata]

Why'd you omit the other part of my post, Sasaki?

Secura, I assume it's because reveals out of thread are not permitted.

It's just semantics, really, but in my book masons are among the strongest of power roles; however, I do agree with Sasaki that the ability to avoid a mislynch (otherwise known as cross-confirmation) is a major part of what makes them so powerful. Were this a game with only one kill per night I certainly would be demanding that YLC cough up a partner or two. But it's not.

[Secura]

The entire point of the mason role is that if one of them is at risk of a lynch, the other can reveal to prevent it. In a game like this where townies cannot do night actions, that's their ONLY purpose.

I was just informed that masons are townies who start the game knowing one another are innocent, correct? Either way, I can see the point now and I'm comfortable with that explanation, thank you.

unvote, vote: Chaotix

Why joke lie about being an investigator or having a result on Subotan, treacle?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Why'd you omit the other part of my post, Sasaki?



If they avoided killing YLC because he was a probably doc protect, then how does having a partner of his claim condemn that guy to death? It's still a high chance of doc protect.

[Zack]

vote: Chaotix

That was ridiculous.

[ULC]

Hey now, don't start another bandwagon rolling on such flimsy basis! Have we all gone daft and decided to twitch vote so much? Sure what Chaotix did wasn't right, but I don't think that's grounds to lynch him. People have done worse and have gone unchecked.

My vote stays on Subotan because of his attitude and eagerness to jump on such a bandwagon - and I'm going to start watching others who do the same. To many people are getting away with it.

[ULC]

If they avoided killing YLC because he was a probably doc protect, then how does having a partner of his claim condemn that guy to death? It's still a high chance of doc protect.

Again, Sasaki, your missing the point. I am not revealing innocents, one way or another, and nor would I ask them to reveal themselves. If I revealed 1 partner, one of us will die - what was the net gain? That we've tied down the doctor infinitely and fed the mafia an easy kill?

Nor am I asking blind trust - all I can say is that I am a mason, and that's that. From there, it's up to you to decide.

[Csargo]

Hey now, don't start another bandwagon rolling on such flimsy basis! Have we all gone daft and decided to twitch vote so much? Sure what Chaotix did wasn't right, but I don't think that's grounds to lynch him. People have done worse and have gone unchecked.

My vote stays on Subotan because of his attitude and eagerness to jump on such a bandwagon - and I'm going to start watching others who do the same. To many people are getting away with it.

On the basis of lying? I thought that's how we usually picked lynch targets? That or random bandwagons.

[ULC]

On the basis of lying? I thought that's how we usually picked lynch targets? That or random bandwagons.

So we go with the blatantly obvious lie? I thought we discussed, investigated (not the night action), probed, and attempted to catch people in lies? Or are we just going to hop on the first bandwagon and call it a day?

[Renata]

If they avoided killing YLC because he was a probably doc protect, then how does having a partner of his claim condemn that guy to death? It's still a high chance of doc protect.

How many docs do you think we have, exactly? Every additional claim increases the chance any given claimed player will not be protected, and that's not even taking into account the multiple kills each night. Assume the mafia shoot at both claimed masons and get one -- is this a bad thing for them? Not in my book.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

How many docs do you think we have, exactly? Every additional claim increases the chance any given claimed player will not be protected, and that's not even taking into account the multiple kills each night. Assume the mafia shoot at both claimed masons and get one -- is this a bad thing for them? Not in my book.

One way to do it is to wait until a later round before asking YLC's partner to claim.

But the fact that masons don't make particularly great targets (mafia will be looking for detectives etc), and that the mafia may shy away from a possible doc protect (50% is not good odds really), heck there may even by a watcher role which would ID anyone attacking a mason.

All in all, it sounds more like YLC doesn't have any mason partner.

[Renata]

vote Split

For the second time. I don't like the way he popped up quite soon after my vote against him, only to disappear again.

[ULC]

I am going to bed, I'll check in on the thread later when I get up, but as for now I need to sleep.

I am sorry Sasaki I can't convince you of my innocence or of my role, but I am sticking by my story. If the mafia want to target me, then they can do so if they wish, but I'm not handing them any of my partners.

[Renata]

You don't feel scummy to me Sasaki, but I don't see it the way you do, at all.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

But see, that's just it. It's not you who would hand over your partners. You being convinced that it's not the right course of action for them to be revealed, does not explain their lack of reveal. In most of the mason reveals I've seen, one of the partners has voluntarily confirmed the reveal. So why haven't they? You mystically persuaded them not too? They prefer to let their partner be lynched?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Vote:Yaseikhaan

Workin' my way down The List.

CR

[Greyblades]

Vote: Sasaki.

[Askthepizzaguy]

vote: Sasaki

You're pressing too hard for a mason to reveal. YLC makes for an easy investigation or roleblock either tonight or at some random night in the near future.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

vote: Sasaki

You're pressing too hard for a mason to reveal. YLC makes for an easy investigation or roleblock either tonight or at some random night in the near future.

How do you know YLC is a mason?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't know that he is, but the game set-up is 5 mafia and 16 other roles. As creative as the host is, I sincerely doubt he came up with 16 unique roles without throwing in a mason partner or two. There's only so many doctors and detectives you can have before it becomes imbalanced.

I also don't feel like pulling down the pants of all the masons in public so that the mafia can more easily target other roles.

[Methos]

Bah, posted prematurely.

Sasaki, why are you pressing for masons to reveal themselves in-thread?

Yes, I'm wondering that too. While I can agree with a lot of what Sasaki is saying, I find it rather scummy that he's trying to get all the masons to out themselves, assuming there are masons. Especially with three kills a night.


Vote: Subotan

I investigated him and he is mafia.


No, not really. I was joking. :laugh4:

Vote: Chaotix :brood:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I don't know that he is, but the game set-up is 5 mafia and 16 other roles. As creative as the host is, I sincerely doubt he came up with 16 unique roles without throwing in a mason partner or two. There's only so many doctors and detectives you can have before it becomes imbalanced.

I also don't feel like pulling down the pants of all the masons in public so that the mafia can more easily target other roles.

All we need is one of his partners to confirm. Not asking for that is like letting someone claim roleblocker, but not asking them to reveal their results. It's simple due diligence.

At best we reveal and lynch a mafioso, at worst we lynch someone else and the mafia improve their odds of hitting a more important role by a miniscule degree.

[Askthepizzaguy]

In my calculation, having 2 exposed masons makes even easier pickings for the mafia to take out. Dead masons are useless to us, especially so early.

I'm not sold on it. In my view there are more negatives than positives when we could just scan YLC.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I don't see why you are worried about the slight odds improvements for the mafia in kill choice, but not worried about the odds decrease for the cop if he has to waste an investigation on YLC.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't see why you are worried about the slight odds improvements for the mafia in kill choice, but not worried about the odds decrease for the cop if he has to waste an investigation on YLC.

It's not that I am not, but if YLC is going to be alive from this point on, one of the claimed masons (minimum) needs to be scanned to make sure. So he's going to have to scan YLC anyway in my view. If 2 masons claim, but no one scans them, then they could just as easily be two mafia. I find that the odds of 2 mafia claiming just to cover YLC so early to be rather bad, compared with the plausibility of the claim. And to remove more doubt, he can be scanned, and would need to be scanned anyway.

I don't see any additional benefit, or even any gained time, from having a second claimant. Can you demonstrate otherwise? I'm skeptical but not immovable on this point.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The benefit to my view, is that we lynch YLC because he's mafia and no one claims to save him. The biggest mark against him is that he tried to act like whether his partners revealed was entirely up to him, and that they would not be doing so under any circumstances. Why would that be? If they don't claim to stop a mislynch it is likely that they don't exist.

[Myrddraal]

I think Sasaki would be making more sense later in the game. Right now, we can easily keep an eye on YLC, he's almost invited an investigation. I don't believe he's mafia, but even if there was a chance that he is, that can be confirmed at night. One investigation is worth it to protect a mason group from being revealed imo.

[Diamondeye]

vote: diamondeye
why sb

I wanted to poke him awake. When did he post in this thread last, exactly?


In my calculation, having 2 exposed masons makes even easier pickings for the mafia to take out. Dead masons are useless to us, especially so early.

I'm not sold on it. In my view there are more negatives than positives when we could just scan YLC.

I agree with this :bow:. Also, I almost convinced myself of switching votes to YLC to end this damn issue but I think we're better off letting him be investigated and lynching a lurker or someone else. Chaotix, perhaps?
FoS: Chaotix

[TinCow]

Dead masons are useless to us, especially so early.

You and Myddraal make a decent point, but it does seem a bit odd to be going through all this trouble for a simple mason. Unless I'm totally missing something, a mason is no better than a townie except that he's got an alibi to get out of a lynching. If YLC really is a mason, an investigation would be wasted on him when it could be used looking for scum. If he is a mason, he has the means to avoid such a needless waste of a lynch phase and an investigation. Weighing this in my head, I find more value in a lynch and an investigation than I do in the identity of a proven townie. I'm just not seeing the advantage in YLC's partner keeping his mouth shut, which makes me believe he doesn't have one.

[Scienter]

vote: slashandburn I wonder if YLC's "partner" is just lurking or not paying attention. If no one speaks up, we can always lynch him the next day.

[Renata]

Yes, I'm wondering that too. While I can agree with a lot of what Sasaki is saying, I find it rather scummy that he's trying to get all the masons to out themselves, assuming there are masons. Especially with three kills a night.

(snip quote)

Vote: Chaotix :brood:

Why vote Chaotix when you think Sasaki is scummy? For making a joke? Do you think he's mafia?

[Renata]

You and Myddraal make a decent point, but it does seem a bit odd to be going through all this trouble for a simple mason. Unless I'm totally missing something, a mason is no better than a townie except that he's got an alibi to get out of a lynching. If YLC really is a mason, an investigation would be wasted on him when it could be used looking for scum. If he is a mason, he has the means to avoid such a needless waste of a lynch phase and an investigation. Weighing this in my head, I find more value in a lynch and an investigation than I do in the identity of a proven townie. I'm just not seeing the advantage in YLC's partner keeping his mouth shut, which makes me believe he doesn't have one.

YLC's not just BS-ing about the value of a group of confirmed-to-each-other innocents all working on figuring out the game together. It's not an insignificant thing, much as I believe the mis-lynch thing is also important.

The more I think about the situation in this particular game, with the multiple deaths, the lack of private reveals, and all, the more I think I would do the exact same thing YLC is doing, if I were in the position he claims to be in. He could certainly be mafia, but I don't think -- I REALLY don't think -- you can look to his refusal to name his partners (or their refusal to confirm him) as evidence toward that. If anyone arguing against him wants to convince me, you'll have to come up with something else.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I guess I've just never seen mason partners not confirm one of their claimed buddies.

[Renata]

Oh forgot:

On the value of masons. Anyone underestimating them has never been in the situation, as mafia, where you think you have the game in hand, you're down to the final however-many players with good numbers, a dead detective, and plenty of potential mis-lynches to go after, and then all of a sudden your top two fake "suspects" claim Mason. Masons are the death of mafia in the end game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I guess I've just never seen mason partners not confirm one of their claimed buddies.

Actually, I've been mason before and not had my partners claim under pressure. I've in fact seen games where masons blurted it out early and promptly died thereafter. Mason claims are useful later in the game. Their effectiveness drops if you claim too early IMO.

[Yaropolk]

Vote Sasaki because I'm busy on the weekend and that seems like a most excellent vote!

[Captain Blackadder]

I agree with atpg when I was mason it was rare for me to come out and say that I was a mason to save my fellow mason because that would ruin the point of the mason what we are to do is defend my fellow mason but never come out and say what I am.

[Thermal]

fos: chaotix

He could of got a potentially innocent guy killed just to have a bit of fun. Not the kind of stunt I'd expect mafia to pull of though, he would at least stick to the story, right?

vote: split

following what renata says about his activity, gives us another lynch option.

[A Very Super Market]

Vote: Sasaki

Itès too early to analyze.

[Methos]

Is anyone else having trouble with the quote feature?

From post #208.

Why vote Chaotix when you think Sasaki is scummy? For making a joke? Do you think he's mafia?

I believe his tactic is scummy, not necessarily that he's scum. Stupid question regarding Chaotix, as I voted ACIN (or AVSM) in the Star Wars game because he was going after high post count.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Is anyone else having trouble with the quote feature?

Let's find out.

edit: Nope.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Masons, I think, are better in the end-game assuming they survive. OTOH, claiming mason early in a game does seem a bit like "cover" for some other role. Unfortunately, it's hard to judge whether that role is town, mafia, or neutral. I recall pever's "neutrals" had some real impact in version one.

Joke detective claims are less useful than faked detective claims -- and possibly more annoying.

Vote: Chaotix

[Splitpersonality]

vote Split

For the second time. I don't like the way he popped up quite soon after my vote against him, only to disappear again.


Sorry had a college accepted students seminar, got a lot of cool info on clubs and possible majors, and a neat hoodie :o


Vote: Zack

You're ridiculous.


(Goes back and reads the previous writeup to catch up on game)

[Chaotix]

:laugh4:

You guys act as if you've never seen a blatantly fake role claim in the first couple of rounds before.

I know Sasaki is quite fond of them. Perhaps you didn't expect it coming from me, though.

That said, I still feel like voting for Subotan right now.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

YLC is either mason or mafia, either way his buddies are driving one of the two wagons today to save him. Of course if he's a mason they've revealed themselves anyway in addition to wagoning reactively instead of looking for mafia.

[Captain Blackadder]

fos: chaotix

Faking results even as a joke is poor townie behaviour.

Vote White Eyes

He hasn't posted yet and we are nearing the end of the second day.

[naut]

Vote: Greyblades

Too easy.

[Khazaar]

...:-(

[Renata]

I just re-read the write-up, and it looks like two killers for each of Winston, Myrddraal and Khazaar. One intruder for Reenk. How does that mesh up with five mafia?

[Subotan]

Vote:Chaotix

That's not nice :cry:

[TinCow]

I just re-read the write-up, and it looks like two killers for each of Winston, Myrddraal and Khazaar. One intruder for Reenk. How does that mesh up with five mafia?

From the rules:


If we get 41 people, there will be 5 mafia members, and 16 other role PMs. That makes 20 vanilla townies.

16 'other' roles is too many for them all to be pro-town.

[pevergreen]

16 'other' roles is too many for them all to be pro-town.

You forgot my update, its 17 other roles now. :wink:

47 minutes to go and all that.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I just woke up and I am not noted for being awake at the present time of day. Could there possibly be a tally so I know what's going on.

[pevergreen]

I'll be doing one, but by then it might be a bit late. :wink:

[pevergreen]

The second day drew to a close. There was less calm, as a number of people were found dead in the morning.

They selected Chaotix to be imprisoned, but Chaotix's head just shook.

"Oh no, you can't do that to poor little old me, you'll just have to off me instead. Terribly sorry, I could have insisted you throw me in the Tower, but the people have decided, and I cannot refuse the people! Just make sure someone feeds my dogs."

And with that Chaotix was helped away, and never seen again.

Tally:

6 - Chaotix
4 - Sasaki
3 - YLC
2 - slashandburn, split, Subotan
1 - Diamondeye, Greyblades, White_eyes:D, Yaseikhaan, Zack

If the following players do not vote next day phase, they will be WoG'd.

Lord Winter, slashandburn, White_eyes:D

Alive: 33/39
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
Beefy187
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
Diamondeye
GeneralHankercheif
Greyblades
Joooray
Lord Winter
Methos
Niklas
Psychonaut
Renata
Sasaki Kojiro
Scienter
Seamus
Secura
Sigurd
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Subotan
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
Warman
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Zack

Lynched: 1/39
autolycus

Killed: 4/39
Winston Hughes
Myrddraal
Khazaar
Chaotix (lynched)

Missing: 1/39
Reenk Roink



It is now Night 2. Night will end in 23 hours, 55 minutes. (Midnight, Monday 19th April GMT +10)

[Diamondeye]

16 'other' roles is too many for them all to be pro-town.

Didn't the writeup present us with a frenchman? How's that for an SK?

[TinCow]

Didn't the writeup present us with a frenchman? How's that for an SK?

The Frenchman appeared in the Reenk write-up. Reenk was abducted, he didn't die. Whatever role did that, it's an unusual one and we need to be very wary of it, but the fact that Reenk isn't technically dead doesn't strike me as a SK. Could be some kind of scum-recruiter, or could be some kind of long-term roleblock. Impossible to tell at this point.

[Renata]

Except the frenchman was Reenk, wasn't he?

Granted about the "other" roles; my question was more along the lines of: which of the seven antagonists are mafia?

[pevergreen]

Host gives out so many clues, at least one was picked up on.

[Renata]

Oh, it was the intruder who was French.

[Thermal]

Chaotix might have messed with us a bit, but that wasn't mafia behavior, bad choice. :whip:

[Beefy187]

FoS: Thermal Mercury

[Subotan]

Chaotix might have messed with us a bit, but that wasn't mafia behavior, bad choice. :whip:
It looked like mafia behaviour to me :stare:

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Sasaki's argument started to appeal. I'd've changed to YLC had I been on earlier.

[Thermal]

It looked like mafia behaviour to me :stare:

Would mafia say they investigated someone, then change there story and say there joking, it attracts attention like mad, attention no mafia guy needs, so whilst it was bad behavior, it doesn't make it mafia behavior, think about it.

[Diamondeye]

Thermal is correct.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

There are times when mafiosi behave "over the top" as a sort of reverse-english ploy to be anonymous. I admit that is the exception, not the rule.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Uh oh.... There goes the neighborhood :(.

[pevergreen]

Sasaki Kojiro was sitting at home, checking out what was on TV. As it turns out, not a whole lot. Sure, tonight seemed to be some big Dr. Who thing, but he hated that show, so he eventually settled on some good old fashioned rugby. Brushing the old cat hair off his shoulders, he had just gotten comfortable when the doorbell rang. Grumbling, Sasaki got up to answer it. He swung the door open and to his amazement, there stood a big blue fox. She was on her hind legs and was posing seductively. She slowly walked past him and made her way to the stairs, stopping at the bottom and giving Sasaki the best "come hither" look he had ever seen, and he'd seen a lot of them on his TV. He followed this foxy lady, or was she a lady fox?, up the stairs into his bathroom, where she turned on the taps in his bathtub. Complying with her wishes, Sasaki lowered himself into the tub, after discarding his clothes, and sighed at how good the water felt. His mind went blank as the foxy lady gave him the best massage he had ever had. He was so relaxed, he didn't hear two men grunt and stagger their way up the stairs, and into the bathroom. The lady's hands went down past his shoulders, his biceps and elbows and to his wrists. Sasaki was shivering, anticipating the feeling of her fingers on his, but instead he was treated to the cold feeling of steel around his wrists. He opened his eyes and saw that he had been handcuffed to the taps. Silently, Sasaki cursed having such elaborate taps, and so far apart. He could move upward from a sitting position, but he couldnt get out of the water. Finally taking notice of the two men in the room, his face did not turn to horror, but puzzlement. The two men had brought in a high powered portable air conditioning unit. Laughing to themselves, they turned it on full blast and pointed it at Sasaki. He died of hypothermia before the sun rose.

Scienter was walking along the boardwalk, enjoying the sea salt and spray, the smell of the ocean and the feeling of hard word beneath her feet. Up ahead, she spotted some street performers, knife jugglers. Having grown paranoid, she put away her little notebook and turned to run away. What she in fact did, however, is fall on a bannana peel. It was a comical sight to others, but Scienter managed to do a double front flip and smack her head so hard on the wood that she died immediately. The two street performers walked over to her. Nudging the body with his foot, the taller one said "Why'd you have to bring the monkey again?" The monkey didn't seem to take that too nicely, he scampered down off the shoulder of the shorter one, onto the body of Scienter and starting jumping up and down, screaming. What shamed even the knife jugglers is when the monkey decided to add banging his cymbols together to the odd dance.

Two men were standing on the beach, not far from where Scienter would die a bit later that night. Enjoying the last glimpses of the sun and laughing about saving daylight, they drunk from their beer cans whenever there was a pause in the conversation. There wasnt a lot of conversation. After an hour or so, one pulled out a portable barbeque and set it up, starting to fry up a delicious dinner. A pedestrian smelled the food and walked over and said hello. He would stay there for quite a while, hearing amazing stories and being careful to stay away from trees on his way home, he was afraid of things dropping from them now.

The scene was the hottest nightclub in town. Hot may not have been the best word to describe it, it featured a few middle aged people sitting down and having a nice chinwag. In a corner, GeneralHankerchief sat alone, drinking his favourite beverage and mentally calculating the odds of his favourite sports team winning next weekend. He was, quite understandably, annoyed when a man tipped over his table and shouted at him. "You're here to what?" GH asked. "I said we're here to kill ya, you dirty mongrel."
"We?" inquired GH.
The man looked around but could not see who he was looking for. "Oh...sorry to bother you sir, have a nice night."
He left without further comment.

In the centre of the nightclub a man stood talking to a man with a few cuts on his hand. They talked long into the night and by the end of it, were best friends.


Alive: 31/39
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
Beefy187
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
Diamondeye
GeneralHankercheif
Greyblades
Joooray
Lord Winter
Methos
Niklas
Psychonaut
Renata
Seamus
Secura
Sigurd
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Subotan
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
Warman
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Zack

Lynched: 1/39
autolycus

Killed: 6/39
Winston Hughes
Myrddraal
Khazaar
Chaotix (lynched)
Sasaki Kojiro
Scienter

Missing: 1/39
Reenk Roink


The townspeople gathered at what was now the usual spot and were greeted by an unsual sight.

"Excuse me, my name is pevergreen, and I carry a bit of bad news!"

"It seems that we managed to accidentally kill our own beloved Queen yesterday. Yes, I'm sorry to say, Queen Chaotix the second is no more. I decree today to be a day of national mourning. You are all to return home, and I shall see you upon the morrow."

There were few tears, but everyone returned home.

It is now Night 3. Night will end in 23 hours, 34 minutes. (Midnight, Tuesday 20th April GMT +10)

(Yes the day phase is skipped)

[TinCow]

Bingo! After yesterday's vote I was given a cat by someone. Apparently it's some kind of hot-potato type role-block. So, I passed it on to YLC last night to block him. In the write-up, we see an attempted hit on GH fail because someone's partner didn't show up. Looks to me like YLC's claim of having a partner is correct, but that partner is a mafioso, not a mason.

Vote: YLC

[Renata]

That's great and all, but we appear to have skipped the day thanks to lynching Chaotix and gone straight to another night.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

That's ok, we can name and shame all the people who voted poorly yesterday.

[TinCow]

That's great and all, but we appear to have skipped the day thanks to lynching Chaotix and gone straight to another night.

That'll teach me to skip over the post-script. :laugh4: