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TosaInu
04-24-2010, 21:07
The NTW skin is work in progress.

TosaInu
04-25-2010, 19:08
Hello,

NTW skin is still work in progres, but this should give an idea. The blue is Graphics work.

Ibn-Khaldun
04-25-2010, 19:43
Wow. NTW skin looks great!

Gregoshi
04-25-2010, 19:59
I like the new skin.

Beskar
04-25-2010, 20:06
What happened to the facebook button, Tosa? I saw you put one up earlier, or was you just experimenting?

gollum
04-25-2010, 20:09
Nice.

Prince Cobra
04-25-2010, 20:14
I am in love with this forum skin...

Subotan
04-25-2010, 22:56
The text colour needs sorting before I can truly love it though

A Nerd
04-25-2010, 23:09
I like the new NTW skin. It is, very nice, indeed. The blue and grey text is a little hard to read though.

edit: I think blue was supposed to mean green...I don't remember.

Rhyfelwyr
04-25-2010, 23:14
I like this, think I'll stick with it. :yes:

Beskar
04-26-2010, 02:16
I am with Subotan on this. It doesn't replace 'The Guild' skin for me yet.

Kekvit Irae
04-26-2010, 03:42
It sucks.

http://www.robotparty.us/TotalWarOrgWestTexas.jpg
I assume you have a way of fixing the text problems? In fact, why not just give us a bunch of skins to choose from? You know... like the old Org. As it stands, I can barely see anything in post previews, profiles, and settings.

TosaInu
04-26-2010, 06:21
Hello,

NTW skin is still work in progres, but this should give an idea. The blue is Graphics' work.

There's still a lot to be done, this skin is a teaser to show which direction we're thinking. Graphic put some thought in the blues, and I grabbed some yellow for the text instead of grey and black, to make it readable.

A lot of the skin is still default, which means yellow text on a light background in some places. There might be a thousand switches for just this skin, and nothing is WYSIWYG or easy to grasp.

The reason for there not being more skins yet, is that none of the old ones work with this new board version, and simply porting them isn't a matter of seconds either.

Kekvit Irae
04-26-2010, 07:27
There might be a thousand switches for just this skin, and nothing is WYSIWYG or easy to grasp.

I may not have a lot of experience with vBulletin skins, but it seems like changing the colors in a skin requires nothing more than editing the XML file and replacing the color hex codes to what you want.

Beskar
04-26-2010, 09:08
I may not have a lot of experience with vBulletin skins, but it seems like changing the colors in a skin requires nothing more than editing the XML file and replacing the color hex codes to what you want.

Pretty much, just lots of changes like that.

Though to be fair, "picking the right colours" isn't as easy as it sounds. Take your average spouse to pick paint for the walls.

Raz
04-26-2010, 11:25
It's looking good.
Just keep the colours soft and I'll be fine. The grey on blue isn't great. And no incandescent yellow on white please. :)

Tweaking colours in base 16 is fun!!

drone
04-26-2010, 15:53
With the Guild skin, when viewing fora that have threads with attachments, the formatting gets messed up. For the Watchtower, the "Vbulletin Upgrade" thread is indented and has extra whitespace above and below. I'm guessing it has to do with the inclusion of the attachment clippy icon.

Edit-> and now it's fixed. :bow:

TosaInu
04-26-2010, 18:18
Pretty much, just lots of changes like that.

And it's not designed by dutch logic, which makes it even harder to me. 'I think I should change this there... no'. I know about things being wrong, but to find the right switch is a different story.


Though to be far, "picking the right colours" isn't as easy as it sounds. Take your average spouse to pick paint for the walls.

That's correct. I'm glad other people do have a better understanding about that.

Moros
04-26-2010, 18:59
Wil the rtw skin come back as well? :puppyface:

Strike For The South
04-26-2010, 21:23
Wil the rtw skin come back as well? :puppyface:

+1.

pevergreen
04-27-2010, 01:30
Hrrmmm interesting.

Had a look at the NTW skin, looks nice.

Kekvit Irae
04-27-2010, 08:20
Wil the rtw skin come back as well? :puppyface:

+2


And it's not designed by dutch logic, which makes it even harder to me. 'I think I should change this there... no'. I know about things being wrong, but to find the right switch is a different story.

That's correct. I'm glad other people do have a better understanding about that.

I downloaded a free vBulletin skin (you would not believe how hard it is to find free skins for vBulletin) and browsed the XML file. It's not all that hard to understand, and it's pretty much the exact same as SMF. Since vBulletin is not free, I don't know if you can install two forums on the same site with a license. If you can, install a second forum on the site somewhere as a test forum, and edit the XML file to your heart's content. Tinker with everything.

A few tips for figuring out colors:

1. Light text on light background never works. Even when it's legable, like right now with the yellow on the light blue, it's still not a good idea. Note that light on light makes bold fonts harder to read (try figuring out which thread in a board has new posts without squinting, I dare you). Light text on dark background can hurt the eyes. Dark text on light background is pretty much a standard, and thus wont be as reviled as the previous choices. It's why the RTW skin was so popular. A good choice of colors can make a world of difference. Browsing other forums also gives you a good idea of what makes a good forum skin.

2. Google "color hex codes" for color codes.

3. When in doubt, ask for help. No man is an island, and if you don't know something about the XML file, someone else is bound to have the answer.

Husar
04-27-2010, 08:44
Patience is a virtue, even for robot unicorns. :bow:

Kekvit Irae
04-27-2010, 14:48
Patience is a virtue, even for robot unicorns. :bow:

Only if there's HARMONY involved.

TosaInu
04-27-2010, 21:20
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=212

pevergreen
04-28-2010, 02:40
In the guild skin, whenever someone quotes something, there is a massive gap of blank space.

Kekvit Irae
04-28-2010, 02:45
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=212


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Only licensed members can download files, Click Here for more information.

Downloading skins from there requires a license. Only an idiot would pay 195 or 285 dollars for forum software you can get for free (http://simplemachines.org/). :)

Cute Wolf
04-28-2010, 04:03
Tosa, umm... the Napoleon skin is just too unfamiliar to be put as the default skin... maybe you should put the guild skin, or the VB default as default skin... I just a bit dizzy when openng the forum, and found a blue-black NTW skin....

Prince Cobra
04-28-2010, 06:34
Tosa, umm... the Napoleon skin is just too unfamiliar to be put as the default skin... maybe you should put the guild skin, or the VB default as default skin... I just a bit dizzy when openng the forum, and found a blue-black NTW skin....

Hey, this dark blue/grey gives a real atmosphere.

Kagemusha
04-28-2010, 12:32
There should be more skin options soon enough.There are people helping Tosa with the skins.He is not working alone.

A Nerd
04-28-2010, 13:03
Any chance of 'throw-back' skins. Something older, like perhaps the original one or the like for nostalgia sake? Mabey dumb, but I like to reminise. Memories are like buds in spring and dust beneath feet of a cold passing to time...

TosaInu
04-28-2010, 13:09
Luckily not, it's a lot of difficult and confusing work.

I saw the gap while using IE pevergreen. Isn't it doing that for all skins?

TosaInu
04-28-2010, 13:13
Any chance of 'throw-back' skins. Something older, like perhaps the original one or the like for nostalgia sake? Mabey dumb, but I like to reminise. Memories are like buds in spring and dust beneath feet of a cold passing to time...

The Guild skin is a throw back. But it's not made within a few seconds either. The old skins are not compatible at all and need to be redone from scratch. Even the images need some conversion.

And that's just the obvious visual stuff. The less visible stuff requires attention too and is at least as pesky.

A Nerd
04-28-2010, 13:34
Understandable. I'm not well versed in such things. I do know though that it must be alot of hard work!

Graphic
04-29-2010, 06:51
I like it :grin2:

Prince Cobra
04-29-2010, 19:06
I feel robbed, in a way. But I hope things will be soon fixed.

TosaInu
04-29-2010, 21:57
Why do you feel robbed Prince Cobra? You can still select the NTW skin to be your default. Maybe I work some more on the skin tomorrow: I have a day off.

Prince Cobra
04-30-2010, 05:48
Why do you feel robbed Prince Cobra? You can still select the NTW skin to be your default. Maybe I work some more on the skin tomorrow: I have a day off.
Thanks!

I am sorry. I did not noticed it. Yet, it was wonderful as a main skin.