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Ice
04-27-2010, 01:29
I thought I'd start posting again, and what's better than a topic about beer?

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/64/2093/

Dog Fish Head 90 Min IPA

I tried this beer last weekend while I was drinking up at school, and I basically agree with the review. It's a hoppy beer, but not overpowering. The 9% alcohol makes it an excellent beer to enjoy with food, or to simply relax and take the edge off.

I'd appreciate any recommendations from fellow posters about beers to try. I've gotten into the habit of trying less mainstream beer. Foreign is ok, but domestic would be even better.

Crazed Rabbit
04-27-2010, 03:33
Funny thing; just this weekend I went to some charity beer tasting event.

I had the best beer I've ever had out of a can:
http://www.oskarblues.com/the-brews/old-chub

I also enjoy Red Hook beer, another microbrewery (based in Washington State).

CR

Centurion1
04-27-2010, 03:36
I've never had it but my dad has always gotten a beer called tigerbeer? i believe from Thailand. He says it was one of the better beers he found while in the navy. anyone ever had it? Is it any good.

Ice
04-27-2010, 04:26
CR: That beer looks awesome. I've never had good beer out of a can, but the reviews suggest otherwise. I'll to give it a try sometime. I love trying new, non mainstream beers.

Centurion:
I've never had it, but beer advocate suggests it's an average Asian Lager, and nothing special. I'd still try it though.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/727/2176/

Reverend Joe
04-27-2010, 04:43
Hm... your name and thread is reminding me of my favorite beer of all time:

https://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7625/icehouse.jpg (https://img215.imageshack.us/i/icehouse.jpg/)

Tastes, smells and feels like alcoholism.

Ice
04-27-2010, 04:53
Dude no... just no... =/

It reminds me of vomit and college.

drone
04-27-2010, 05:25
Tastes, smells and feels like alcoholism.

:yes:

Cute Wolf
04-27-2010, 06:53
ice beer looks good....

Moros
04-27-2010, 07:27
:no:

Husar
04-27-2010, 10:18
Are those liter bottles? :inquisitive:

naut
04-27-2010, 11:27
[...]

The 9% alcohol

[...]
Argh. No! Anything above about 5% and the amount of fermentation required kills the taste of the beer.

Fragony
04-27-2010, 13:24
O wish their beer was as good as their commercials http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/927641/03cea4ad/de_nieuwste_heineken_commercial.html

naut
04-27-2010, 13:44
O wish their beer was as good as their commercials
What a Dutchie whom doesn't like beer? :end:

Fragony
04-27-2010, 15:19
What a Dutchie whom doesn't like beer? :end:

just don't like Heineken all that, not the the disaster the Flemish will insist it to be

seireikhaan
04-27-2010, 15:23
Argh. No! Anything above about 5% and the amount of fermentation required kills the taste of the beer.
Anything under about 6% aint got enough kick to begin with.

Strike For The South
04-27-2010, 15:24
My Baby

https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6671/shiner300x225.jpg (https://img219.imageshack.us/i/shiner300x225.jpg/)
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A Nerd
04-27-2010, 15:30
I always prefered dark beers to light (when I drank). A guiness (sp.) on tap please.

Moros
04-27-2010, 16:06
http://www.belgische-bieren.be/sites/default/files/bieren/bieren_kwak.jpg?1236030632
hmmm kwak.

caravel
04-27-2010, 17:19
http://www.belgische-bieren.be/sites/default/files/bieren/bieren_kwak.jpg?1236030632
hmmm kwak.

Thank you for saving the thread.

Peasant Phill
04-27-2010, 20:02
That reminds me, time to pour a kwak (in the appropriate glass of course).

It's quite a shame that a lot of the beers that are mentioned here aren't widely available. I would love to taste some American beer other than Bud.

Oh and the best beer commercial I've seen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6salMePgp2E

Vladimir
04-28-2010, 00:01
Oh and the best beer commercial I've seen:


Very nice.

Hosakawa Tito
04-28-2010, 00:33
I've never had it but my dad has always gotten a beer called tigerbeer? i believe from Thailand. He says it was one of the better beers he found while in the navy. anyone ever had it? Is it any good.

Might be this. My brother drank it in the service during the Vietnam War.
634


So many beers to taste, so little time.

Centurion1
04-28-2010, 01:04
do we have any corona fans here :angry: that stuff tastes like cat piss.

and a serious question to europeans. how do you drink it....... warm. or please tell me its just a myth :wink:

yeah thats it hosa its the same beer that ice linked for me i believe. my dad only drinks it wen we go get thai ive always wondered if it was any good.

A Nerd
04-28-2010, 01:14
No, Corona tastes like cat piss with a lime in it. I thought Europeans drank beer at room temperature too. I tried drinking Sam Adams at room temperature and actually kinda liked it that way. It also saved room in the refridgerator.

Vladimir
04-28-2010, 01:19
Hate Sam Adams: It's good English beer; that's like Edit: Nevermind.

Anything with a fatal overdose of hops should be (relatively) good warm. The hops help preserve the beer.

miotas
04-28-2010, 01:20
It's the British that you blokes are thinking of.

A Nerd
04-28-2010, 01:28
Sam Adams isn't that bad. The honey porter is quite good.

Gotta love those Englishman!

drone
04-28-2010, 03:47
It's cellar temperature, not room temp. And that's only for ales.

I've been drinking Murphy's Stout lately. Tasty.

Fragony
04-28-2010, 05:35
Corona ain't that bad on a hot day, just don't really see it as beer

A Nerd
04-28-2010, 12:05
Room temperature only for ales, that's interesting. I thought all beer was consumed that way. In High School we used to like the malt liquors for the intoxicating affect, never could get used to the taste though.

Vladimir
04-28-2010, 13:10
I love ales; but room temperature? Ugh. I'm all about cellar temperature (it puts the label in the basket). Nothing is good at room temperature. "Tepid" is never a compliment.

A Nerd
04-28-2010, 13:15
What's the difference between room temperature and cellar temperature? (I tend to breeze thru the posts while reading occasionally) Comparing room temperature, cellar temperature and cold as in beer served cold in the US. I'm curious about it, that is all.

Vladimir
04-28-2010, 13:19
Room temperature is ~70 degrees F. Cellar temperature, to me, means it has a slight chill. Room temperature is too conducive to bacteria growth and skunkiness.

A Nerd
04-28-2010, 13:37
That's good to know. Cellar temperature does seem to be ideal. I never really did like beer too cold.

Peasant Phill
04-28-2010, 20:56
It depends from beer to beer. For example most of the Trapisten beers are best at 12-18°C while most pils beers like Stella or Bud are better at a lower temperature.

I do have one motto: if you have to drink a beer ice and ice cold to be able to enjoy it, than that beer isn't worth much.

A Nerd
04-28-2010, 21:05
I suppose a beer's flavor can be enjoyed much in the same way as table wine.

Ice
04-29-2010, 04:36
Funny you guys are talking about cellar temperature. The beer in my initial post suggested just that. I think it was 45-50 degrees F (our metric system friends can translate that since I'm far too lazy).

Andres
04-29-2010, 11:30
Discovered the Waterloo triple a couple of years ago and recently bought a few bottles and I must say it tastes great:

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Waterloo.jpg

Clicky (http://www.belgianbeertradition.com/en/waterloo.php)

Not my all time favourite (which is Ciney blonde), but still pretty good.

Another less known Belgian beer which I can highly recommend is Quintine. Another clicky. (http://www.brasserie-ellezelloise.be/bieres-uk.shtml#La%20Quintine%20Blonde)

Pannonian
04-29-2010, 11:57
Oh and the best beer commercial I've seen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6salMePgp2E

Dambusters (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZdZsFZ1mW0)
Water in Majorca (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz9_YfIQaz4)

Vladimir
04-29-2010, 14:19
I really need to find a job in Belgium.

Ice
04-29-2010, 19:33
I really need to find a job in Belgium Netherlands.

:balloon2:

naut
04-29-2010, 19:58
Anything under about 6% aint got enough kick to begin with.
But, beer is not for the kick. Beer is for the taste. If I want kick I'll have a beer with a whiskey back.


do we have any corona fans here :angry: that stuff tastes like cat piss.
Corona is average. Sol is the real Mexican beer of choice.

Peasant Phill
04-29-2010, 20:04
Dambusters[/URL]
Water in Majorca (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz9_YfIQaz4)

Good commercials, not so good beer.

A Nerd
04-30-2010, 22:24
My favorite Mexican beer from years back was Negra Modelo. There were others I had in restaraunts, bet that is the only one I can remember. Prefered a good sangria to beer though.

Moros
04-30-2010, 23:49
Hate Sam Adams: It's good English beer; that's like Edit: Nevermind.

Anything with a fatal overdose of hops should be (relatively) good warm. The hops help preserve the beer.
Hops are great for preserving beer as long as you keep it away from light, that is. It is often a misconception that it's the beer getting warm after being poured out which ruins the taste but it's mostly light destroying the hop, making the bad taste. (the darker the bottle, the better, though the high quality hop of bigger breweries are less vurnable against light nowadays Another great evil of course is air, there's a reason you need a 'kraag' (the whitish foam) a top of your beer of a decent size (though it depends on the brand and glass and it's tradition on how high it should be, a stella for example has a 'kraag' of ideally three fingerwidths high), is air. Beer should get into contact with air at all. Temperature is not something that necessarily ruins the beer, but not all beer should be drank at the same temperature. While a pils should be at the colder end of a spectrum, one shouldn't ruin a fine Delirium Tremens by serving it at 6°C (at least 9° but better go for something a little higher) and especially not a beer a like a Chimay Blue (min. 13°C). Pils should always be served cold, preferably from a top cooled tap. And rember kids the first and very last drops when opening and closing the tap shouldn't come in the glass at all! Actually it's quite pathetic how at some fancy places people pay a lot of money (especially abroad) for a quality beer, but get them poored in completely wrong from out filthy pipes.

Moros
04-30-2010, 23:54
Discovered the Waterloo triple a couple of years ago and recently bought a few bottles and I must say it tastes great:

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Waterloo.jpg

It's not really one of my favourite, but if you drink it you should use their typical ceramic glasses. (I ripped one at the horecabeurs ;))

Also this week I had some Geuze Boon and 3 fonteinen, I almost forgot how great they are when it's hot and when you've got a geuze that isn't like that commercial overly sweat morte subite like *****!

drone
05-01-2010, 00:10
Hops are great for preserving beer as long as you keep it away from light, that is. It is often a misconception that it's the beer getting warm after being poured out which ruins the taste but it's mostly light destroying the hop, making the bad taste.

And you would think that most knowledgable brewers would know this. However, a majority of the Continental lagers are shipped to the US in green bottles, making them pretty much undrinkable. You have to search for a store that keeps them in the case boxes, picking up a six-pack just sitting on the shelves is a big mistake. Most British ales get shipped in brown bottles, and are generally free of teh skunk.

Moros
05-01-2010, 01:07
And you would think that most knowledgable brewers would know this. However, a majority of the Continental lagers are shipped to the US in green bottles, making them pretty much undrinkable. You have to search for a store that keeps them in the case boxes, picking up a six-pack just sitting on the shelves is a big mistake. Most British ales get shipped in brown bottles, and are generally free of teh skunk.

Sadly and strangely some people have the misconception that green bottles mean better quality. Hence some brewers specifically chose them even though they are aware of it.

Centurion1
05-01-2010, 01:39
any czech beer fans here?

Ice
05-01-2010, 04:11
Hops are great for preserving beer as long as you keep it away from light, that is. It is often a misconception that it's the beer getting warm after being poured out which ruins the taste but it's mostly light destroying the hop, making the bad taste. (the darker the bottle, the better, though the high quality hop of bigger breweries are less vurnable against light nowadays Another great evil of course is air, there's a reason you need a 'kraag' (the whitish foam) a top of your beer of a decent size (though it depends on the brand and glass and it's tradition on how high it should be, a stella for example has a 'kraag' of ideally three fingerwidths high), is air. Beer should get into contact with air at all. Temperature is not something that necessarily ruins the beer, but not all beer should be drank at the same temperature. While a pils should be at the colder end of a spectrum, one shouldn't ruin a fine Delirium Tremens by serving it at 6°C (at least 9° but better go for something a little higher) and especially not a beer a like a Chimay Blue (min. 13°C). Pils should always be served cold, preferably from a top cooled tap. And rember kids the first and very last drops when opening and closing the tap shouldn't come in the glass at all! Actually it's quite pathetic how at some fancy places people pay a lot of money (especially abroad) for a quality beer, but get them poored in completely wrong from out filthy pipes.

::Thumbs Up::

Fragony
05-01-2010, 06:20
any czech beer fans here?

Yes, nobody makes better pilsner.

Moros
05-01-2010, 10:54
Yes, nobody makes better pilsner.

Indeed, Czech pils in general beats every other pils out there, whatever country it may be from. :yes:

Moros
05-02-2010, 00:00
Some of my personal favourites are:


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Delirium_Tremens.jpg/125px-Delirium_Tremens.jpg

Delirium Tremens: Strong pale ale (8,5%) voted best beer of 1998 and 2006, with reason IMO. It's the beer I usually drink when I want to spend a relaxed evening or afternoon or sometimes a few as starters for a good night out. It has a more rounder/smoother taste that as well has more depth than the usual duvel for example. (Don't forget to turn the bottle though before pouring out the last bit.) It's my favourite beer actually.


Gulden draak: Decent average strong dark beer. Has quite a high alcohol percentage 10,5%, which actually doesn't do the taste that good. Still a good beer.

Rochefort 8: Together with Chimay Blue it's my typical choice when in the mood for a standard trappist dubbel. Personally I think these two are the best choices when it comes to the trappist dubbel (well West vleteren is up there too, but it's just way too hard to come by these days, if you do get your hands on it, let it lay in your cellar for at least a year or two. Though let's not overreact, it's a bit like the dark knight or avatar more hype than greatness). While la Trappe and Westmalle are more than decent as well, I just can't understand why one would pay to drink an Achel or an Orval really. Both also make a cheese which goes along fine with the beer and a game of chess or a good conversation.

http://www.crackedkettle.com/store/images/LaTrappeQuadrupel.jpg

La Trappe Quadrupel: Yes it's a Dutch beer, but this is a really good beer. But then again it's part of the typical Belgian trappist history (though this has been contested, which caused the beer not to be recognised from 2000 to 2005 or something). If you try a dutch beer, avoid the pils, this one should be most definately it.

Rochefort 10: Stronger variant of Rochefort 8, with a stronger taste and alcohol percentage of a little over 11% IIRC. Great beer, but you might not want to drink to many of it at the same time.

Westmalle trippel: My first and usually only choice when it comes to blond trappist. The taste is full and has more than depth enough and yet for a trappist amazingly refreshing. If it's hot or feel like a refreshing drink, but don't want to go for the sissy gueze or pils, this is the way to go.

http://www.mikebureaux.info/triple-karmeliet/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/tripel-karmeliet-glass.gif

Tripel Karmeliet: A newer beer, that taste like an old traditional abbey beer but then made unique by it's use of Oat and Wheat. Has been voted the best beer of 2009, if I'm not mistaken, and it's popularity and fame has grown immensly since. I've always tasted it from the bottle but soon my bar will put it on the tap and I can't wait to try it out. A great beer that everyone really should try. :yes: Probably the single best thing that originated from the 90's, well except for the.org that is. ~;)

Geuze Boon: personally my favourite geuze, forget about those sweat candy like commercial ones. Geuze has to have sour refreshing taste. Other recommendation is 3 fonteinen. You should also try out Kriek (Lambic) from Boon, which still brew Lambic as it should be, not like soda or Bellevue.

Brugse Witte: Personally I'm not a fan of 'wittekes', white beer, but if there's something most people agree on, who know a bit about beer, it's that this one is rather better than the more famous Hoegaarden.

http://www.receptjes.be/pics/bieren/rodenbach.jpg

Rodenbach: Dubbed as 'the most refreshing beer' by Michael jackson (RIP), no not the singer, is definitely one of the most unique beers from Belgium. It's a you like it or you hate it kinda beer. Personally I like it. It's something one should have tasted just because it's so unique, though it might not please you at all.

Deugniet: Comes from a small brewery and isn't that much known it is however what you expect and want from a strong pale ale, but with a hint of apple. I've been to the Horecabeurs two years in a row know (where most breweries come to promote their beers) and both times it was voted by me and my friends/companions as the best beer. My personal tip for everyone to try out.

Hertog Jan: The second Dutch beer in this list, which is not really included for it's outstanding taste or for it being better than other Belgian beers of it's kind (de oud bruin family), but to demonstrate that in fact there are decent beer in the Netherlands as well.

http://www.eetcafedebeurs.nl/images/biervandetap/koninck.jpg

De Koninck: a Speciale Belge beer, a tradition that started as a counterreaction to the importation and increase of popularity of Pils. Universities of Belgian held a contest with the goal of making a new beer back then and this was the deserved winner. In style not unlike oud bruin, but like pils a more refreshing lighter taste. So one could call it a pils-oudbruin hybrid.

Standard Abbey beers: Maredsous, Grimbergen and Leffe are probably the most known of these. Technically though Leffe isn't an Abbey beer any more as it is brawn at the Stella brewery at Leuven and not much of the original recipe is left either. (If there's one thing I hate more than those idiot Brazilians in the Inbev grou it's their recipe changing and commecialising ways). Grimbergen is my personal favourite here by far.

Cristal 1928: Of the bigger, more commercial pils from Belgium only one brand actually dares to use some more flavour and that is Cristal Pils. While the other big brands like Stella, jupiler (both using the same recipe these days thanks to Inbev), Primus and Maes are practically the same and ones preferance would be more psychological or based upon cleaner taptubing, Cristal has a more bitter and fuller taste. Cristal 1928 goes even further, it goes back to using muck of the original old recipe and hence moves away from the more modern commercialising recipe's. While it isn't the greatest thing, it surely is fun to try out and not bad for to use for spending a night out without having to go over to flavourless pilsner.

http://www.duvel.be/upload/Images/bel-pils-bottle.jpg

Moortgat: known for their commercial hit Duvel and their cooperation with the Nazi's, but it's actually their rather unkown Pils that is actually worth it. While Duvel and 'groene' or 'kleine' Duvel is much more known, both being good beers in their own right, the Bel pils might actually be the best Belgium Pils. Perhaps the only one who could dream of competing (not winning though) with Czech pils.

La chouffe: Great, great beer, blond and 8%. I'm getting lazy so I'll just leave it at that.

Beers one should avoid:

http://www.touteslesbieres.fr/bibliotheque/Image/hoegaarden-rosee.png
Hoegaarden Rosé and Hoegaarden Citron: worst things ever to come out of a brewery since guinnes

Achel: It's not because you are a trappist, you're necessarily any good. There are 6 other brands to choose from that produce better beer...well except Orval.

Barbar and Orval: two beers that have more aroma than taste. While I don't mind the first, I really need some of the latter as well.

sweet Geuze or Lambik: liquid candy, yuk!

AlexanderSextus
05-02-2010, 03:37
I Love BEER! I even brew my own. My latest was an English Special Bitter. My friends literally JUST tried it and by all accounts it was a great beer. In a 5 gallon batch, I used 2 cans extra light malt extract, a half a pound of Aromatic malt, a half a pound of crystal 40L malt, a half a pound of victory malt, a quarter pound of special roast malt, and a quarter pound of crystal 60L malt. I used an ounce of East Kent Goldings hops (kentish hops are a MUST for english ales) for flavor and an ounce of Fuggle hops for aroma. I used a London ESB liquid yeast. It came out a nice pretty amber color. Bottled with 4 ounces of corn sugar for carbonation.


My Favorite Beers:

https://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e165/keroak44/yuengling.jpg

Yuengling Lager. It's not the BEST beer out there, but it's FAR better than the standard CRAP beer we have here in America. It's also quite affordable. This beer represents what was brewed in the US before Prohibition. Prohibition caused the smaller breweries that made good beer to go out of business. Only the crappy breweries, Anheuser-Busch, Miller, Pabst and Coors survived.

Originally, American beer was characterized by the fact that we had inferior malted barley compared to Europe, so we would add just enough corn to lighten the body of the beer and create enough enzymes to ferment the barley. We made good beer from crappy ingredients.

Nowadays beers like budweiser (yuck) use RICE as the main ingredient and pabst (meh) uses up to 75% corn in their beer. No wonder they suck so bad. Even Japanese rice lagers use more barley.

https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f151/tsitso/czechvar1.jpg

Czechvar is the American name for the original Budweiser Budvar brewed in the Czech Republic. Stupid greedy American beer companies prohibited them from using the name Budweiser in the US. This is one of the best beers I have ever had. Great smooth lager taste with a nice malty flavor and strong Noble Hop taste upfront. I encourage everyone to try this one. Not Cheap in the US.

https://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu189/DetCrockett/IMG_8564.jpg

Sam Adams Noble Pils is an American made version of a European Pilsner, and uses the same Noble Hops, imported from Europe. It's definitely up there with Czechvar, Although being an American version is much Hoppier than would be expected of a European beer. This one has a kick. It's not the same as Czechvar, it's less malty but it's a very drinkable beer. Strong Tettnang hop flavor throughout with some maltiness in the background.

https://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae64/WMTCgear/Guinness-1.jpg

I Love Love Love Love Guinness. This is what i mostly drink in the wintertime.

We've all had guinness, I would think. Super strong roasted malt taste, with noticeable hop flavor. Creamy head with a thick mouthfeel.

Ice
05-02-2010, 03:45
I Love BEER! I even brew my own. My latest was an English Special Bitter. My friends literally JUST tried it and by all accounts it was a great beer. In a 5 gallon batch, I used 2 cans extra light malt extract, a half a pound of Aromatic malt, a half a pound of crystal 40L malt, a half a pound of victory malt, a quarter pound of special roast malt, and a quarter pound of crystal 60L malt. I used an ounce of East Kent Goldings hops (kentish hops are a MUST for english ales) for flavor and an ounce of Fuggle hops for aroma. I used a London ESB liquid yeast. It came out a nice pretty amber color. Bottled with 4 ounces of corn sugar for carbonation.


My Favorite Beers:

https://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e165/keroak44/yuengling.jpg

Yuengling Lager. It's not the BEST beer out there, but it's FAR better than the standard CRAP beer we have here in America. It's also quite affordable. This beer represents what was brewed in the US before Prohibition. Prohibition caused the smaller breweries that made good beer out of business. Only the crappy breweries, Anheuser-Busch, Miller, Pabst and Coors survived.

Originally, American beer was characterized by the fact that we had inferior malted barley compared to Europe, so we would add just enough corn to lighten the body of the beer and create enough enzymes to ferment the barley. We made good beer from crappy ingredients.

Nowadays beers like budweiser (yuck) use RICE as the main ingredient and pabst (meh) uses up to 75% corn in their beer. No wonder they suck so bad. Even Japanese rice lagers use more barley.

https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f151/tsitso/czechvar1.jpg

Czechvar is the American name for the original Budweiser Budvar brewed in the Czech Republic. Stupid greedy American beer companies prohibited them from using the name Budweiser in the US. This is one of the best beers I have ever had. Great smooth lager taste with a nice malty flavor and strong Noble Hop taste upfront. I encourage everyone to try this one. Not Cheap in the US.

https://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu189/DetCrockett/IMG_8564.jpg

Sam Adams Noble Pils is an American made version of a European Pilsner, and uses the same Noble Hops, imported from Europe. It's definitely up there with Czechvar, Although being an American version is much Hoppier than would be expected of a European beer. This one has a kick. It's not the same as Czechvar, it's less malty but it's a very drinkable beer. Strong Tettnang hop flavor throughout with some maltiness in the background.

https://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae64/WMTCgear/Guinness-1.jpg

I Love Love Love Love Guinness. This is what i mostly drink in the wintertime.

We've all had guinness, I would think. Super strong roasted malt taste, with noticeable hop flavor. Creamy head with a thick mouthfeel.

AS, how are you doing? I see your enthusiasm for beer is as strong as your love for the herb. :)

Not to downplay Moros' review, but being a European I'd expect such ;). It's nice to see an American who knows his beer. Yiengling and Guinness are two of my favorite, generic American brews. I'm not a huge fan of Sam Adams, but I'll have to try the boutique beer you mentioned above. Czechvar intriques me because of its history.

Moros
05-03-2010, 11:21
Not to downplay Moros' review, but being a European I'd expect such ;). It's nice to see an American who knows his beer. Yiengling and Guinness are two of my favorite, generic American brews. I'm not a huge fan of Sam Adams, but I'll have to try the boutique beer you mentioned above. Czechvar intriques me because of its history.

AS surely knows his beer indeed. And personally I like hearing his review about the American beers, as I know little of it. Haven't been in America (yet), nor have I usually been pleased enough abroad by a beer to at least remember it's name. Though there are good ones out there (especially Czech, German, Austrian and perhaps even English ones). Sadly most would probably ruined by the way they are tapped.

Btw: AS do they already use tetrahop in some American breweries?


AS, how are you doing? I see your enthusiasm for beer is as strong as your love for the herb. :)
Lol!

naut
05-03-2010, 11:43
Hmm. Moros, why are many Belgian beers so fruity? I'm not a fan of the fruity tasting ones, I tried one that tasted like pineapple :sick:, can't remember the name.

Fragony
05-03-2010, 13:56
Many Belium beers are an aquired taste, a geuze or a lambiek can taste fruity. So much variety bound to hate something. Now the Germans, don' be surprised if the add banana-juice

AlexanderSextus
05-04-2010, 14:32
AS do they already use tetrahop in some American breweries?

Some of the really big breweries do. Big American breweries don't tend to make very good beer.

Moros
05-05-2010, 21:46
Some of the really big breweries do. Big American breweries don't tend to make very good beer.

Yeah. I don't know much about American beer, but I was that far as well.~:)

@Psychonaut: There are many Belgian beers that don't taste fruity at all. So if you ignore Lambic, Geuze and the likes you will find some that suit your preferences.

Fragony
05-06-2010, 09:24
Indeed, Czech pils in general beats every other pils out there, whatever country it may be from. :yes:

Try Brand, it's Dutch but Chech-style . With Hertog Jan the best Dutch beer.

Moros
05-12-2010, 19:58
Try Brand, it's Dutch but Chech-style . With Hertog Jan the best Dutch beer.
Didn't try out Brand yet. I know Hertog Jan and while it's more than decent, I'm of the opinion that La Trappe Quadrupel is much, much better.

Reverend Joe
05-12-2010, 21:35
I'll vouch for Yuengling as well; it's a remarkably good beer considering the size of the brewery.

What I'm wondering, though, is how you guys (my fellow Americans, mainly, as I imagine the Europeans have much easier access to a wide variety of beers) have so much money to blow on all these expensive beers. Do you guys never drink, or just stick to liquor to get drunk, or what?

Oh, and one other thing:

And you would think that most knowledgable brewers would know this. However, a majority of the Continental lagers are shipped to the US in green bottles, making them pretty much undrinkable. You have to search for a store that keeps them in the case boxes, picking up a six-pack just sitting on the shelves is a big mistake. Most British ales get shipped in brown bottles, and are generally free of teh skunk.

I thought that foreign breweries just brewed all their beer over here, specifically because it's so hard to ship.

Centurion1
05-12-2010, 22:26
good beer is a must no matter the price and oftentimes imported beer is much better than the homegrown stuff because the industry here is so commercialized.

plus not everyone drinks beer to get drunk or uses cheap beer fort hat purpose. the best experience (according to my father; im not legal to enjoy this kind of drinking yet) is just sitting outside after work with a GOOD beer.

Meneldil
05-13-2010, 22:48
I've started collecting beer labels a month ago or so, and have consequently been trying quite a lot of different brands.

Here are my current favorite:

Chimay Bleue (Belgium)
Leffe Triple (Belgium) The best "industrial" beer I've found so far
Kwak (Belgium)
Abbatiale Triple (France)
Columba (Corsica)
Moosehead (Canada)
Fin du Monde (Québec)

drone
05-13-2010, 23:12
Moosehead (Canada)
:2thumbsup:

AlexanderSextus
05-18-2010, 04:36
Yeah. I don't know much about American beer, but I was that far as well.~:)

Contrary to what Europeans (and even a lot of Americans) may believe, Here in the United States, we DO have very good beers. The thing is that they are a very small part of the market over here, compared to our yucky and/or bland beers.

Dogfish Head, as Ice mentioned, is a good beer company, as is Sam Adams, (though they have a couple flops, STAY AWAY from the cranberry lambic), Sierra Nevada makes Ales that would bring an Englishman to tears. General rule of American Beers, Go for the SMALL companies. You'll spend more money, but the beer will be very good.

For a cheap beer, Try Yuengling, like I said before, or Pabst. Pabst is the lowest I'll go. It's not what I would call a good beer, but at least the taste is not OFFENSIVE like "budweiser"(I put it in quotes because Czechvar is the REAL Budweiser)