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Shaka_Khan
04-27-2010, 07:17
What is your opinion on the US and Americans in general? Today, a non-Canadian claimed that Canadians have an animosity towards Americans. Considering that she is non-Canadian, I wanted to get authentic opinions from real Canadians.

One thing is for certain, the world loves Canadians.

Cute Wolf
04-27-2010, 07:25
Where is Canada? A big northern province of the United States? :clown:

Megas Methuselah
04-28-2010, 18:02
Why do Americans think they can call themselves Americans?

Beskar
04-28-2010, 18:07
Why do Americans think they can call themselves Americans?

Because they are born in America. :laugh4:

I think you mean "Why do those from the United States think they are the Americans, while Canadians, Mexicans, and others are not addressed as such even though they are on the American continent?"

Strike For The South
04-28-2010, 18:08
Why do Americans think they can call themselves Americans?

Because I R 1

Vladimir
04-28-2010, 18:17
We're also the only country with "America" in our title. There is an Estados Unidos de Mexico pero no hay un otra paĆ­s con el palabra "America."

Sheesh! What's so hard to understand?

Megas Methuselah
04-28-2010, 18:22
"Why do those from the United States think they are the Americans, while Canadians, Mexicans, and others are not addressed as such even though they are on the American continent?"[/I]

Jesting aside:

"Why do those from the United States think they are the Americans while there have already been real Americans living here for the past countless millenia?"

ajaxfetish
04-28-2010, 18:34
Jesting aside:

"Why do those from the United States think they are the Americans while there have already been real Americans living here for the past countless millenia?"
Why do people born in the 20th/21st centuries think they are humans when there have already been real humans living on earth for millions of years?

Ajax

Louis VI the Fat
04-28-2010, 18:40
Because the pre-Columbian natives hadn't the faintest clue of their living on two continents separate from the rest of the world, never mind naming them, least of all with the European name America.


Why do native Americans call themselves Americans?

Meneldil
04-28-2010, 21:55
I'm not Canadian but my gf is and she hates the US and americans with a passion. I've stopped arguing with her on that topic since it always ends with the two of us being pissed off*. Despite living in a country that is virtually in all ways similar to the US, despite watching US TV and shows, despite reading american books, despite eating crappy american food, she hates them all.

I'm certainly not qualified enough to speak in general, but my overall feeling after studying 8 months in a Canadian university is that this hatred toward americans and the US was/is widely shared among students.

*And I'm french, which should rank me quite high on the "I 'ate ze americanz" issue.


"Why do those from the United States think they are the Americans while there have already been real Americans living here for the past countless millenia?"
You lost, get over it *shrugs*

Gregoshi
04-28-2010, 22:16
Why do native Americans call themselves Americans?
Louis wins. :yes:

Kurando
04-29-2010, 07:46
One thing is for certain, the world loves Canadians.

Everyone but the Taliban... ;)

Personally I have virtually no problem with anyone from the US, but I wouldn't necessarily want to live there myself. I'd say that love and hate aside, you guys are about the best neighbours there are. I have no doubt that if anything ever happened disaster-wise that you would be up here in a shot to offer all the help you could muster. You're not necessarily liked, but rest assured you are appreciated and for the most part respected. You are very good hearted people.

Just after 9/11 there was a lot of goodwill in the air, but I'd say the overall attitude towards your government here has defintely soured since the invasion(s).

The only Americans I can say I don't like are the ones who wear Canadian flags on their backpacks when they travel abroad. Please don't do that, or if you do, please don't act like idiots.

Megas Methuselah
04-29-2010, 08:30
I'm not Canadian but my gf is and she hates the US and americans with a passion. I've stopped arguing with her on that topic since it always ends with the two of us being pissed off*. Despite living in a country that is virtually in all ways similar to the US, despite watching US TV and shows, despite reading american books, despite eating crappy american food, she hates them all.

The theme that the general hatred towards the US helps keep the population of vastly different and divided Canadians together in a single state is something I always encounter when this subject is brought up. Anyways, now that you said this, I like your gf a bit more.


You lost, get over it *shrugs*

Hmm? You should do your homework.



The only Americans I can say I don't like are the ones who wear Canadian flags on their backpacks when they travel abroad. Please don't do that, or if you do, please don't act like idiots.

You wrote a very fine and polite post, Kurando. A good veil to cover your underlying hatred. :clown:

Vladimir
04-29-2010, 12:56
I'm not Canadian but my gf is and she hates the US and americans with a passion. I've stopped arguing with her on that topic since it always ends with the two of us being pissed off*. Despite living in a country that is virtually in all ways similar to the US, despite watching US TV and shows, despite reading american books, despite eating crappy american food, she hates them all.

I'm certainly not qualified enough to speak in general, but my overall feeling after studying 8 months in a Canadian university is that this hatred toward americans and the US was/is widely shared among students.

*And I'm french, which should rank me quite high on the "I 'ate ze americanz" issue.

You've nailed it. We're so similar in language and culture that many Canadians have to hate the U.S. to maintain their identity. They're proud of their country, history, and likely hate us in the way that only true friends can.

KukriKhan
04-29-2010, 17:33
Because the pre-Columbian natives hadn't the faintest clue of their living on two continents separate from the rest of the world, never mind naming them, least of all with the European name America.


Why do native Americans call themselves Americans?

Because they're Siberians, but "American" is easier to spell?

j/k Megas, don't blow a fuse, please. Ya knows I lovz ya!

-edit-
On topic: I lived in Ontario 1970-71 (Dad was from Kinkora, outside Stratford) and my Canadian pals said: "You're OK, but the rest of Yanks suck!".

Megas Methuselah
04-29-2010, 19:16
On topic: I lived in Ontario 1970-71 (Dad was from Kinkora, outside Stratford) and my Canadian pals said: "You're OK, but the rest of Yanks suck!".

Did you get a chance to drink some beer that actually didn't taste like piss? :clown:

KukriKhan
04-29-2010, 20:29
Did you get a chance to drink some beer that actually didn't taste like piss? :clown:

Heh. My new found friends (they rescued me off the highway when my motorcycle broke down) decided to test the stereotype, and I lived up to the Yank rep: puked my guts out on Molson Canadian the first time (mind you, I was 19, underage in the US, and had only had stolen beers from Dad before). I soon found my beer-legs though, after a week or so. Not that I had much beer money - I got odd jobs under the table for that year+ . About once a month one of the fellas (of about 12 of them) would score a good paycheck and treat the others to a couple of cases. I did so once, after getting a hefty check from two weeks cutting survey lines (light lumberjacking) up around Sudbury.

Good times. *sigh*

Vladimir
04-29-2010, 20:58
Heh. My new found friends (they rescued me off the highway when my motorcycle broke down) decided to test the stereotype, and I lived up to the Yank rep: puked my guts out on Molson Canadian the first time (mind you, I was 19, underage in the US, and had only had stolen beers from Dad before). I soon found my beer-legs though, after a week or so. Not that I had much beer money - I got odd jobs under the table for that year+ . About once a month one of the fellas (of about 12 of them) would score a good paycheck and treat the others to a couple of cases. I did so once, after getting a hefty check from two weeks cutting survey lines (light lumberjacking) up around Sudbury.

Good times. *sigh*


http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/60d50c4207.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Here we go! :laugh4:

KukriKhan
04-29-2010, 21:01
Here we go! :laugh4:

LOL. You know we oldtimers can't help taking trips in the wayback. :)

Skullheadhq
04-29-2010, 21:53
the only country with "America" in our title.

O really?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Central_America)

Vladimir
04-29-2010, 22:09
O really?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Central_America)

Huh. Cool! Thanks.

Beskar
04-29-2010, 22:14
O really?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Central_America)

Unless you live 150 years in the past, then no. As it no longer exists.

Megas Methuselah
04-29-2010, 22:18
Huh. Cool! Thanks.

Yeah, it's in Paradox's Victoria: Revolutions. Your reaction mirrored mine at the time. :laugh4:

Centurion1
05-01-2010, 02:25
skullheadq doesnt exist anymore....... so no.

Megas, let me list my line of complaints against the world.

*ahem*

Why do people insist on lumping all Yugoslavs into one group as Yugoslavs, everyone knows that we Croats are the superior ones and completely different.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:K1vl_loawm5X0M:http://www.vlada.hr/var/vlada/storage/images/about_croatia/information/flag_coat_of_arms_and_national_anthem/233205-3-eng-GB/flag_coat_of_arms_and_national_anthem_articleimage.gif

The damn british wont leave my beloved green isle and they refuse o return ulster to her rightful people.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:HifrRhNiuQJeAM:http://woodstown.org/~clubs/CHA%2520Club/Images/irish_flag.jpg

Normandy should be its own damn nation or we should change the name of france to Normandy.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:jgfvk2-OMNo_wM:http://www.enhancefrance.com/images/norman%2520flag.gif

Scotland should be independent.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:5W_yF1CzcQ83xM:http://olearystudio.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/scottish20flag2.jpg


Siberians demand that North America and South America be given to them it was ours once
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:AvaEjjCGM4KEfM:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Siberian_flag.svg/266px-Siberian_flag.svg.png


white people can complain too it doesnt change anything but of course i respect and can somewhat understand your opinion

Beskar
05-01-2010, 03:00
The damn british wont leave my beloved green isle and they refuse o return ulster to her rightful people.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:HifrRhNiuQJeAM:http://woodstown.org/~clubs/CHA%2520Club/Images/irish_flag.jpg

Scotland should be independent.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:5W_yF1CzcQ83xM:http://olearystudio.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/scottish20flag2.jpg


Just a word of advice, watch what you are claiming, Northern Ireland wants to be British. It isn't that Britain is refusing to let them go, it is more that southern Ireland cannot accept they want to stay. Britain has troops stationed there to protect them from the IRA and its terrorist kin, which Americans supported. I remember you said once about knowing people claiming to have supported the IRA, those people are murderers of innocent families and children.

As for Scotland, only the SNP fueled by Mel Gibsons Braveheart actually want Scottish Independence. The Scottish are generally happy otherwise, as opposed to being some discriminated minority, they play a big part in British policies. Gordon Brown, our current Prime-Minister is Scottish.

Centurion1
05-01-2010, 03:13
yeah and most Native Americans don't really wish to return to the days of their forefathers.

It wasn't anything i actually feel about just saying i could complain all i wanted to about my oppressed heritage if i wanted to even though im the evil white invader. so calm down you touchy damn brit

and i said in that statement i think it shows true ignorance and a perfect example of america's romanicism of the old country regarding the ira.

or i might have been talking about my dads friends, a hedge fund manager (read: rich, wealthy stereotypical bostoner), in Boston suburbs where it was like driving into the ira headquarters with all the damn irish flags flying everywhere.

Beskar
05-01-2010, 03:23
It wasn't anything i actually feel about just saying i could complain all i wanted to about my oppressed heritage if i wanted to even though im the evil white invader. so calm down you touchy damn brit

I was just doing a friendly warning, if you ever came across a bunch of people from Northern Ireland for example. I would hate to see anything happen to you.

Centurion1
05-01-2010, 03:30
well it would depend on who the people were wouldnt it............. i actually have been to ulster though.

and is that a threat commie........

Banquo's Ghost
05-01-2010, 07:28
This thread has left the shores of Canada for ever, it seems. Wherever it is headed, it is not to a good place.

:closed: