Spectator or voyeur?

[Louis VI the Fat]

' Le spectateur de théâtre est t-il un voyeur? '





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Where does appreciation of beauty turn from spectatorship into voyeurism?

[Lemur]

Until you're cleaning blood off your clown suit, it's all good.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Until you're cleaning blood off your clown suit, it's all good.Blood? That only happens to amateurs. Me I use pockets full of candy to lure 'em and


What if she brutally stares you down if your gaze turned out to be too indecent? Or just the right level of indecency, but for too long?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

When you turn your head instead of just glancing with your eyes, i.e. when you go out of your way.:bobby2:

[Lemur]

Well, let's be honest, I'm coming at this subject as a guy who has zero problem with putting on antlers, standing on a float and singing in parades, so maybe I don't have the most balanced view about what's voyeurism and what isn't.

That said, however, as long as one discreetly looks at another person, I don't see any harm. Sometimes they even look back and lovely things happen. But yeah, never be aggressive or pushy about it; that way madness lies.

[Justiciar]

I'm afraid I've dubbed you a pervert, thinking them all pictures of the same girl. Stalking some poor lass across town with a camera's one thing. Taking the odd shot of random (leggy, female) people going about their business another.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Yes
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Where does appreciation of beauty turn from spectatorship into voyeurism?

If you take more than one picture of a person you don't know. When the image focuses on the girl alone and not in connection with the background.

Sasaki's guideline is good too; glancing is one thing; staring is another.

CR

[Husar]

I don't mind if the girls look at my well-shaped behind either. And they do it, whether they look at mine is hard to say, don't have eyes in the back of my head but in general, they sure do it.
I don't take pictures of anyone usually so that is out of the question, and if I got that correctly the ones above were not taken by Louis?
When I was in Prague I saw a flash of a camera right behind a girl's skirt/jeans, I found that quite...you know...
However, it is hard to appreciate beauty without looking at it, and sometimes the details are very interesting, that doesn't always mean something dirty has to happen in the process, as I posted in the Frontroom I'm more the friendly friend (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzwXtrHOJLs) type anyway (though incidentally I hardly ever hug a woman I'm not related to, I never know when it would be appropriate and prefer not to get too close :shrug: ).

[Fragony]

When you turn your head instead of just glancing with your eyes, i.e. when you go out of your way.:bobby2:

Nah that's what we call the excorcist method

[Hax]

..which would give a whole new twist to "WE WANT MERRIN"

[Hosakawa Tito]

Everybody needs a hobby. More frontal shots please.

[gaelic cowboy]

I hugely confused whats wrong with the fourth photo of the rainy street????

[Lemur]

I hugely confused whats wrong with the fourth photo of the rainy street????
That rainy street never gave its permission to be photographed. Pervert.

[gaelic cowboy]

You know if you sit in a chair and rub both your upper thighs with your palms of your hands and say any word at all it sounds hugely perverted :clown: hours of fun that one

[Strike For The South]

It's only vouyerism if you get caught

[PanzerJaeger]

When you feel the need to start a thread like this...

[Strike For The South]

When you feel the need to start a thread like this...

Clearly you don't understand the intracacies of French art. To impress the plebs, sometimes a line must be towed. Louis is simply another brave artist towing that line between artful beauty and deviant sexual fetish

:france:

[drone]

It's only vouyerism if you get caught

And if they didn't want you looking, they wouldn't dress like that. ~;)

[Husar]

Don't forget that if you don't look, you're acting against (your) nature, just look for a thread on climate change, to see how dangerous that is!

[Louis VI the Fat]

Clearly you don't understand the intracacies of French art. To impress the plebs, sometimes a line must be towed. Louis is simply another brave artist towing that line between artful beauty and deviant sexual fetish I would link here to 'L'Origine du monde' ('The Origin of the World'), but you people are not ready for such art yet. :smug:


Don't google that at work or at a public computer...

[Megas Methuselah]

For some unknown reason, I'm drawn to the bottom half of the chick in the second pic.

[Reenk Roink]

Since you probably aren't brazen/creepy enough to take a picture of her face, rate it 1-10 please. :yes:

edit: My bad if you didn't take the pics, who did though?

[Kagemusha]

Don't forget that if you don't look, you're acting against (your) nature, just look for a thread on climate change, to see how dangerous that is!

QFT.

[Skullheadhq]

For some unknown reason, I'm drawn to the bottom half of the chick in the second pic.

That means you're healthy, congratulations!