Evgenij V. Černenko - 'Die Schutzwaffen der Skythen'

[Lvcretivs]

While browsing through our university library I just stumbled upon this interesting title:

Černenko, Evgenij V., Die Schutzwaffen der Skythen (Prähistorische Bronzefunde III/2) , Stuttgart 2006 (ISBN: 3-515-08659-5) (GooglePreview (http://books.google.de/books?id=_PCFix-eFIkC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Die+Schutzwaffen+der+Skythen&cd=1#v=onepage&q&f=false))

This rather exhaustive catalogue of Scythian armor (down to the 3rd Century BC) seems to me interesting source material for the new Scythian/Greco-Scythian units of the Bosporan Kingdom (as long as the EB Team hasn't already finalized the unit concepts ;)). Unfortunately it's a German-language publication which seems to have no translated English edition.

Forgive me if this title has been brought up before :)

Caution - uncropped scans!

Černenko - 'Die Schutzwaffen der Skythen' - pl.28/29 (3rd Century BC helmets; catalogue nos 588-599):
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Černenko - 'Die Schutzwaffen der Skythen' - p.88/90
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Černenko - 'Die Schutzwaffen der Skythen' - p.90/91 (corresponding catalogue entries)
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Černenko - 'Die Schutzwaffen der Skythen' - p.92/93 (corresponding catalogue entries)
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[seienchin]

Im stunned.
Its actually a historic book for university use, with lots of citations and statistics.
Its publication was made able by money from a german state scientific govermnent agency. Thats all really impressive :)
Still its a translation from a russian (ukrainian?) book, so you also get it in a russian version I suppose. :book:

[Lvcretivs]

@seienchin
Yeah, it's a pretty exhausting but interesting study of the subject matter - It struck me as probably useful for the EBII Team, because it contains statistic tables compiled from the actual archeological record, extensive cross-references and citations of otherwise hard-to-find Russian literature (illustrations,...) . By the way, Černenko is also the co-author of the probably better known Osprey title The Scythians 700-300BC (http://books.google.de/books?id=ozA8d9AFiMgC&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=Cernenko+publications&source=bl&ots=_svZD9X3bF&sig=Ri9d24Fz32F_7w44Rsd3drpW3P8&hl=de&ei=_R_vS6TaINKkOPW3qKEI&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false) and was, to quote the book, 'Leader of the Scythian Department of the Archeological Institute of the Academy of Sciences of the Ukrainian SSR'.
Concerning the language question - I'm sure there is a Ukrainian original, but was unable to find reliable bibliographical data ;) While I'm German myself and could - if need be - act as a translator, there are probably quite a few multilingual EBII members (oudysseos?) who are certainly more qualified than I am.

[stratigos vasilios]

Hopefully this is an excellent find, btw Lvcretivs your English is excellent. Reading your posts I thought English was your first language, kudos my amigo.

[Lvcretivs]

Oh, thank you ;)

[MeinPanzer]

The only real points which would be relevant to the EB team are a number of helmets (588-99) and some other scattered finds which date to the Hellenistic period. The vast majority of the finds assembled by Chernenko are 4th c. BC or earlier, and thus of no real use to a mod set after 272 BC. However, it is still a great book, and a fantastic resource to have.

[Lvcretivs]

@MeinPanzer
You're absolutely correct - I browsed rather superficially through this title (My fault, I've a paper to write...) and greatly overestimated the relative scarce amount of finds dating to the late 4th/early 3rd Century. Nevertheless I'll proceed to collate Černenko's 3rd Century finds (helmets and 'kleinfunde') - hopefully there is material relevant for the EBII Team...;)

[Ibrahim]

'kleinfunde')

anything more specific in regards to what that is? If I understand correctly, It means "small/little ?(find)? ", but my german is noobish:shame:

[athanaric]

anything more specific in regards to what that is? If I understand correctly, It means "small/little ?(find)? ", but my german is noobish:shame:
That's pretty much it, small items that were unearthed by archaeologists.

General hint: you could always type words like this into "wikipedia.de" (or the corresponding one for a different language) and see what it comes up with. Then click on the English version of the site, provided there is one. (Google Translate doesn't work with these words).

[Ibrahim]

That's pretty much it, small items that were unearthed by archaeologists.

General hint: you could always type words like this into "wikipedia.de" (or the corresponding one for a different language) and see what it comes up with. Then click on the English version of the site, provided there is one. (Google Translate doesn't work with these words).

I didn't use google translate-I took german last year. but thanks for the tip about the wikipedia. :beam:

[athanaric]

I took german last year.
Which means you want to continue it. After all, what could be more important?
:clown: