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Subotan
06-01-2010, 00:00
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A Bridge Zhou Far is a project that I concocted in the closing days of General Handkerchief’s excellent Pirate Ship Mafia, my first mafia game, and thus has a lot in common with it. All the mafia games I’d experienced up to that point (I.e. Just PSM) had multiple factions, an officers corps, group vigging/protections etc, so Early Modern China, with it’s countless factions, civil wars and foreign aggressors was the perfect place to transplant GH’s ideas to a mafia game, in an albeit Frankenstein-ian manner. That said, there are enough differences to ensure that this will be a very different experience to that of a swashbuckling adventure, although I of course hope that it will be just as entertaining.<o:p></o:p>
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I won’t post the opening post of the storyline at this point, as I would rather have all of the sign up’s in one thread, and all of the plots/lynches/murders in another.<o:p></o:p>
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SETTING:<o:p></o:p>

There are two separate mafia gangs: The Kuomintang ([Chinese] Nationalists) and the Imperial Japanese Army. The <st1:stockticker>KMT</st1:stockticker> and IJA have both separately infiltrated the People’s Extraordinary Detachment, a black ops unit of the People’s Liberation Army, the military of the Chinese Communists. The Communists had by the point in the game been fighting a vicious civil war with the Kuomintang government, but Japanese invasion forced the two sides to unite to face the common enemy. There were still tensions, however, and it is within one of these tensions that the game takes place.<o:p></o:p>
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I would like to stress that unlike most mafia games, this is not a game of black vs. white. Rather, it is more of a slushy grey, akin to really dirty snow. Early Modern China was not a nice place, and not coincidentally, it was controlled and fought over by people who were not nice. The various Japanese war crimes in <st1:city><st1:place>Shanghai</st1:place></st1:city> and particularly <st1:place>Nanking</st1:place> are well known, as well as some of the more monstrous experiments in Unit 731. The Kuomintang were little better, causing mass famine and economic devastation in the areas under their control, For example, 80% of <st1:state><st1:place>Sichuan</st1:place></st1:state> province’s inhabitants, the biggest province by population, were addicted to opium. The Communists weren’t much better. We all know about the catastrophic disaster that was the Great Leap Forward, as well as the excesses of the Cultural Revolution.<o:p></o:p>
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But of course, it would be extremely unfair to say that there were no nice people in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>. The vast majority of Chinese were just trying to survive from day to day, and there are rare examples, diamonds in the gloom, of people who acted according to their conscience, and for the greater good of the Chinese nation. You may choose to play like that. Or maybe not.
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MECHANICS:<o:p></o:p>
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As aforementioned, there are several features which are similar to that in Pirate Ship Mafia.<o:p></o:p>

OFFICERS<o:p></o:p>

One is the Officers Corps system; the players will elect a Chairman to guide them through the battlefields of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> and lead them towards a Marxist utopia. The Chairman is elected when there is a vacancy in the position, and there will certainly be an election at the start of the game. In the first election phase, there will be no lynch, only an election.<o:p></o:p>
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The Chairman is elected thus<o:p></o:p>
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Elect: Mao<o:p></o:p>
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If you wish to change your vote, you can do so by<o:p></o:p>
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Unelect: Mao; Elect: Deng<o:p></o:p>
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The candidate with the plurality of votes becomes Chairman. The Chairman picks four Officers to help aid him, and unlike the Chairman, they can vote in thread. They are: The Political Commissar, a cop (Who can also appoint a deputy to help him), the Medical Officer (Doc), the Director of Proletarian Justice (Roleblocker) and a “Special Operative” (???). Each of these officers has roles to do at night, and any player can become one…even mafia.<o:p></o:p>
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Should the Marxists realize that their Chairman is a traitor, or incompetent, then they may Revolt against him, in addition to their lynch orders. If a majority of players agree to Revolt, then the Chairman is deposed and executed, along with the lynch target of the day. Instead of then proceeding to a night phase, a new election is held.
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GROUPS & CLIQUES<o:p></o:p>
Another SIMILAR mechanic is that of groups. The town may form groups to kill or protect individuals at night. Only three players are required to protect individuals, whilst five are required to vig an individual.

A new feature is that of Cliques; should the same three people work together in a group three times in a row, then a Clique will be formed. These have extra powers during voting ties, and in the event of a revolt. They also reduce the threshold of people required to kill down to four players (Meaning you still need someone from outside the clique to help you). However, as always, the fear of mafia infiltration should be observed.<o:p></o:p>
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Kills will be slightly different than in PSM. All the players will have to specify with which weapon they wish to kill said player. Everyone has in their possession a Blade and a Firearm. When you vig someone, your group must say<o:p></o:p>
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I, along with miotas, ACIN, AVSM and Aemilius Paulus shall kill ATPG using knives.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>
Everyone MUST send in the same weapon, or the kill will be counted as invalid, and will not go ahead.<o:p></o:p>
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Certain players have a resistance to certain attacks. This is somewhat similar to Sigurd's Return of the Sith mechanic, but it is does not have as many attacks. For example, if ATPG is naturally skilled in knife combat, he will fend off his attackers, and maybe leave one of them with a nasty scar. But if ATPG is instead skilled in guns, then he will not survive the slicing and dicing that the EB Tavern would inflict upon him. If a kill attempt on a character fails, try again using a different weapon.<o:p></o:p>

INCIDENTS<o:p></o:p>
Another brand new feature is that of Incidents. To reflect the fact that this game will not exist in a bubble floating above [/spoil][spoil]<st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>, the group will encounter problems and dilemmas which they must respond to. These will occur in the night phase, to help stimulate discussion in that typically silent period. For example, say there was a problem with a sick soldier slowing down the group. As the players will have a lot of scope in attempting to solve it, If Mao wanted to propose a solution, then he would say<o:p></o:p>
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Suggest: Leave him to die in the cold.<o:p></o:p>
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If a player was to agree with a certain plan he would post<o:p></o:p>
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Agree:Mao<o:p></o:p>
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If he changed his mind, he would post<o:p></o:p>
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Disagree:Mao ; Agree: Deng<o:p></o:p>
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A player can retract a suggestion by posting Unsuggest, and Suggesting a new, amended version of your plan. Suggesting one thing, getting people to agree with it and then unsuggesting it and suggesting a completely different plan at the last minute will not be tolerated.<o:p></o:p>
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Hopefully the above will be clearer when an Incident is in progress. :yes:
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OTHER RULES<o:p></o:p>

There is also a conversion mechanic, which allows the mafia to recruit traitorous Communists, and bring them into the fold of reactionary thought, so watch out if you're town. You do not have a choice in this, and all old loyalties to the working classes must be discarded.

No Lynch and Abstain are NOT allowed, because I'm spiteful.

On the dead, and other circumstances<o:p></o:p>
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The dead may post, but not vote/select nor carry out any night actions. Dead players may not reveal their roles publicly or privately and may not reveal their faction or role particulars either. Dead players may not quote from a PM unless that PM has been posted in the public thread by a living player. Dead players may not reveal, recount or allude to their previous night actions (or results thereof in the case of investigations) publicly or privately – even to confirm a previously made public or private reveal. Your participation must be circumspect, but your continued participation IS encouraged.

No screenshots may be used, from or to anyone, for ANY purpose – this includes during PMs. Feel free to quote from my Role PM’s to you or to fabricate as you see fit. Chatlog conversations may be referenced/quoted, but may not be copied via screenshot. Note: it can be difficult to maintain role secrecy during chat conversations.

"Suicide" will not be allowed in this game (it is possible to create an unplayable game with nothing but suicide pact challenges going on. This is not the intended mode of play for this game).
Players who must remove themselves from play for schedule reasons should send me a PM. I will then write them out of play.<o:p></o:p>

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Upon death, the Chairman will launch a full investigation of that individual to try to determine the reason they were killed. Though slow (results reported on the 3rd morning after death), their then-current role will be revealed. Unfortunately, the specific actions of that individual -- what they did with their role -- will remain a mystery (until the post-game!). <o:p></o:p>
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Although you are allowed to reveal, you are NOT allowed to quote your role PM’s; except for one thing. You may quote the quote that comes with every role PM.<o:p></o:p><o:p></o:p> And should you be inactive for three phases in a row without informing me, or until I decide that you have been inactive enough, I shall WOG you.
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And that’s it, essentially. I’m looking for forty players to join me in this fight for the very soul of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p>

Sign ups: 40/40 -All Places are filled. You were just too slow.
ArpeggiateTHIS
Beefy187
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
Double A
Jolt
miotas
Psychonau
Secura
shlin28
Sigurd
Thermal Mercury
Romanic
Chaotix
Beskar
ACIN
autolycus
Death is yonder
Azathoth
Captain Blackadder
taka
Winston Hughes
Renata
johnhughthom
Pinman
Methos
Joooray
Niklas
AVSM
Sasaki
GeneralHankerchief
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YLC
Wishazu
Seamus Fermanagh
Yaseikhaan
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Tactical Reserves - 0

Reserve Deployed




Your Role is:

Comrade (Townie)

The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. ~ Karl Marx

Greetings Comrade! After toiling away for far too long in the rice paddies of China, with taxes sucking you dry to fuel the armies of first the warlords, then the Kuomintang, and now the Japanese, you’ve finally had enough. Communism’s promises have proven to be too much for you, with their promises of land reform and equality inspiring you, the humble peasant, to take a stand against the forces of decadent capitalism and immoral imperialism. Unfortunately, the People’s Extraordinary Detachment has been infiltrated by those very forces, and even your closest comrades could be counter-revolutionaries! You must use guile, cunning, teamwork, and quite a bit of ruthlessness to unmask and punish the imperialist running dogs.

Your aims: The Survival of PEXDET.. You will succeed in this if you manage to expose to the members of the KMT and the IJA and execute them, or if you manage to make it back to Yan’an. However, this will change if you are recruited by one of the above factions, in which case your goals will turn to the destruction of PEXDET, and the survival of the original members of that mafia.

Your methods: As a humble peasant, your abilities are limited. That does not necessarily mean you are unimportant though, as your votes and debate are needed to root out the Rightists.

Day: Lynch, Revolt

Night: Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms) All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Good luck. You’ll need it.



Oh, and one final rule... to encourage roleplaying, the words "mafia", "scum", "town" or any variants upon are hereby BANNED. Instead, you all must use words such as "Imperialists", "Reactionary" "Counter-Revolutionary", "Rightist", "Bourgeoisie", "Anti-People" or "Marxists", "Communists", "Socialists", "Peasants", "Working Class", "Leftists", "Reds" or any such words to describe your faction. I have mentioned the banned words in the above post and in the PMs for clarity, but anyone who mentions them hence shall be subject to severe penalties.
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Cultured Drizzt fan
06-01-2010, 00:09
Hey looks like I am already signed up. Cool.

Subotan
06-01-2010, 00:11
If your name is in italics, you just need to confirm :yes:

Secura
06-01-2010, 00:25
Ni hao! :bow:

Subotan
06-01-2010, 00:30
I have a feeling the :bow: emoticon will be used a lot this game...

Romanic
06-01-2010, 00:31
Definitely.

Chaotix
06-01-2010, 00:37
In.

Beskar
06-01-2010, 00:51
Tuba Sin.

Double A
06-01-2010, 01:12
I have a feeling the :bow: emoticon will be used a lot this game...

Isn't it always? :tongue:


Oh, and one final rule... to encourage roleplaying, the words "mafia", "scum", "town" or any variants upon are hereby BANNED. Instead, you all must use words such as "Imperialists", "Reactionary" "Counter-Revolutionary", "Rightist", "Bourgeoisie", "Anti-People" or "Marxists", "Communists", "Socialists", "Peasants", "Working Class", "Leftists", "Reds" or any such words to describe your faction. I have mentioned the banned words in the above post and in the PMs for clarity, but anyone who mentions them hence shall be subject to severe penalties.

Wow, you better be pretty light with your punishments, like having people do the next tally if they are caught.

a completely inoffensive name
06-01-2010, 01:28
You can count me in Tavern buddy.

autolycus
06-01-2010, 02:16
Sure, count me in.

naut
06-01-2010, 03:37
In.

Death is yonder
06-01-2010, 03:46
The land of my forefathers, sounds interesting :yes:

Askthepizzaguy
06-01-2010, 04:02
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/EPYC/finalmapf-med.png

Your image is too big, Subotan. It doesn't fit on the thread, or even on the screen too well. I resized it for you.

Subotan
06-01-2010, 08:42
Wow, you better be pretty light with your punishments, like having people do the next tally if they are caught.
That sounds severe enough :yes:


The land of my forefathers, sounds interesting :yes:
Another one? I think that makes three people who have signed up or have displayed interest...


Your image is too big, Subotan. It doesn't fit on the thread, or even on the screen too well. I resized it for you.
You have no idea how hard I worked to make it that big...

What does everyone think of the banner?

Azathoth
06-01-2010, 09:17
Vigilante - Each night, the Vigilante may kill another player (this varies) (by sending their name to the Moderator). The Vigilante is on the Town's side.

Mason - The Masons are a group on the Town's side who know each other and can talk to each other at Night.

Serial Killer - The Serial Killer (often abbreviated as SK), like the Vigilante, may kill another player each Night (by sending their name to the Moderator). However, the Serial Killer is not on the Town's side or the Mafia's side. The Serial Killer wins when everyone else is dead.

Those aren't in the game? Does the roleblocker prevent, say, a doctor from saving someone, or a mafioso from killing someone? If a member of a clique is hindered, does the clique as a whole fail in its action (because the number of people will be below the minimum required?)? Is there a Godfather? Can the cop reveal a player as Mafia in the thread? Will there be incidents involving small action against IJA units? If so, up to how many people can die? In this game, at night, townies can do whatever they want and form cliques or partner up with people at will? Or will that just not be in thread, but in PMs? This whole thing is going to be a PM-fest, right? Will we know the identities of the 4 officers selected by the Chairman? Is the Special Operative a wild card whose role is known only by you, or have you not yet decided? Incidents happen only at night? The Chairman proposes a solution/response and we vote for it the same night? What is a townie victory? Will you announce a townie victory as soon as all the Mafiosos have been killed? Will you announce the identities of the executed? Eahe dnvcvadska basi

Will all this become clearer as the game progresses?

Subotan
06-01-2010, 09:28
Those aren't in the game?
I'm not saying which roles are in the game and which are not. You'll all find out soon enough. Suffice to say, there are roles which have not been mentioned either in that Flash Animation or the Advanced Roles animation which are present in this game.


Does the roleblocker prevent, say, a doctor from saving someone, or a mafioso from killing someone?
Yes.


If a member of a clique is hindered, does the clique as a whole fail in its action (because the number of people will be below the minimum required?)?
Yes.


Is there a Godfather?
No comment.


Can the cop reveal a player as Mafia in the thread?
If he wants, although he will probably die.


Will there be incidents involving small action against IJA units?
Maybe.


If so, up to how many people can die?
That depends on how you choose to deal with them, or the KMT, should you encounter them.


In this game, at night, townies can do whatever they want and form cliques or partner up with people at will? Or will that just not be in thread, but in PMs?
In PM's, but yes, they can do what they like.


This whole thing is going to be a PM-fest, right?
No, I shall use Quicktopics for the mafia & officers, but the town will have to send me PM's.


Will we know the identities of the 4 officers selected by the Chairman?
Of course.


Is the Special Operative a wild card whose role is known only by you, or have you not yet decided
I have already decided.


Incidents happen only at night?
Well, discussion about how to deal with them will only happen at night, yes.


The Chairman proposes a solution/response and we vote for it the same night?
Anyone can propose a solution, and the solution with a plurality of votes will be the one carried out.


What is a townie victory? Will you announce a townie victory as soon as all the Mafiosos have been killed?
When all anti-Marxist forces have been eliminated. And yes.


Eahe dnvcvadska basi
sdfgbapigbarherg herguhergpa iophgaegaerg


Will all this become clearer as the game progresses?
Yes.

Azathoth
06-01-2010, 09:41
Then I am prepared to lend my strength in the decisive people's battle against the imperialists and their running dogs.

Subotan
06-01-2010, 09:45
What is a running dog anyway?

Azathoth
06-01-2010, 10:07
They are pathetic, short-sighted, and cowardly fools that collaborate with our political and social enemies.

Cute Wolf
06-01-2010, 10:20
I'm in... yeah...

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-01-2010, 10:47
IN!

Diamondeye
06-01-2010, 11:58
This is not a sign-up, merely an inquiry; When will the game be starting, and how long do you expect it to run for?

I'm going lots of places in the summer vacation so I need to know whether I can commit to this without having to quit all of a sudden :bow:

Subotan
06-01-2010, 12:27
It will be starting on the 17th of June (Due to exams; that's the best time for me to start hosting and remain in ), and I expect it to run for about a month-ish, depending on how lucky the town is.

Captain Blackadder
06-01-2010, 13:33
I will help us find the counter-revoluntionaries who are pawns of the capitalist ruling class.

The Stranger
06-01-2010, 14:06
in.

Beefy187
06-01-2010, 14:34
Zou ba :bow:

taka
06-01-2010, 15:01
Being chinese, i really wanna join this, but i dont finish uni exams til the 7th - so when does this start? if it starts after the 7th then count me in, if not put me on reserve please

this is my come back game after being away so long on the org :D

i suggest all those that can read chinese write in chinese for extra secrecy... :laugh4:

Winston Hughes
06-01-2010, 15:12
I'm in.

Renata
06-01-2010, 15:37
I have mentioned the banned words in the above post and in the PMs for clarity, but anyone who mentions them hence shall be subject to severe penalties.

Can I be the serial killer who gets to knock off anyone who slips up?

(In.)

Diamondeye
06-01-2010, 15:44
Being chinese, i really wanna join this, but i dont finish uni exams til the 7th - so when does this start? if it starts after the 7th then count me in, if not put me on reserve please

this is my come back game after being away so long on the org :D

i suggest all those that can read chinese write in chinese for extra secrecy... :laugh4:

((The game starts around the 17th; read the thread before asking :bow:))

I won't be joining, sadly.

Death is yonder
06-01-2010, 15:51
Being chinese, i really wanna join this, but i dont finish uni exams til the 7th - so when does this start? if it starts after the 7th then count me in, if not put me on reserve please

this is my come back game after being away so long on the org :D

i suggest all those that can read chinese write in chinese for extra secrecy... :laugh4:

对啊,我们一起做黑社会, 去杀人放火。。 :clown:

Don't bother using google translate, you'll end up getting Chinglish :laugh4:

Jolt
06-01-2010, 16:23
对啊,我们一起做黑社会, 去杀人放火。。 :clown:

"Right, we'll be a Mafia group together, killing people by setting them on fire."

Good enough for you? :D

Pinman
06-01-2010, 16:32
In.

Subotan
06-01-2010, 16:42
Updated "Other Rules" section to insert some features which I had forgotten about.


I will help us find the counter-revoluntionaries who are pawns of the capitalist ruling class.

Unless, of course, you turn out to be such a pawn...



Being chinese, i really wanna join this, but i dont finish uni exams til the 7th - so when does this start? if it starts after the 7th then count me in, if not put me on reserve pleaseI honestly had no idea there was so many Chinese on the .Org. Please feel free to point out any mistakes made in any Chinese proper nouns I write in game.


I won't be joining, sadly. That's a shame; maybe next time DE? The reason this game is called "Three Stars Rising" is because I hope to make several more such games, all with a China/Chinese Communist theme. Of course, this all depends on how much time I get at uni, so...


Good enough for you? :D Is that an in, Jolt?

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Since we're past the halfway mark I thought it was time to reveal the standard Townie PM:



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Your Role is:
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Comrade (Townie)
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[I]The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. ~ Karl Marx<o:p></o:p>
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Greetings Comrade! After toiling away for far too long in the rice paddies of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>, with taxes sucking you dry to fuel the armies of first the warlords, then the Kuomintang, and now the Japanese, you’ve finally had enough. Communism’s promises have proven to be too much for you, with their promises of land reform and equality inspiring you, the humble peasant, to take a stand against the forces of decadent capitalism and immoral imperialism. Unfortunately, the People’s Extraordinary Detachment has been infiltrated by those very forces, and even your closest comrades could be counter-revolutionaries! You must use guile, cunning, teamwork, and quite a bit of ruthlessness to unmask and punish the imperialist running dogs.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Your aims: The Survival of PEXDET.. You will succeed in this if you manage to expose to the members of the <st1:stockticker>KMT</st1:stockticker> and the IJA and execute them, or if you manage to make it back to Yan’an. However, this will change if you are recruited by one of the above factions, in which case your goals will turn to the destruction of PEXDET, and the survival of the original members of that mafia. <o:p></o:p>
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Your methods: As a humble peasant, your abilities are limited. That does not necessarily mean you are unimportant though, as your votes and debate are needed to root out the Rightists.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Day: Lynch, Revolt <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Night: Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms) All PM’s must match for it to be successful.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Good luck. You’ll need it.



If there's stuff in there which doesn't make sense, it will after the first write-up.<o:p></o:p>

taka
06-01-2010, 17:18
actucally, I read the OP like a gazillion times but dont see when it says it'll start......


对啊,我们一起做黑社会, 去杀人放火。。 :clown:

Don't bother using google translate, you'll end up getting Chinglish :laugh4:

gah, simplified chinese. traditional is ALWAYS better :P (DIY=Commie, taka=KMT) :laugh4:


"Right, we'll be a Mafia group together, killing people by setting them on fire."

Good enough for you? :D

not quite, hahaha

edit: I think you can count me in

johnhughthom
06-01-2010, 17:59
Sign me up Subo, I always thought this one looked like it will be good.

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-01-2010, 18:54
Subo, quick question: what difference does using blades/firearms make? Are there set characters that are invulnerable to certain weapons (although I'm not sure how you'd portray that)?

Seems like it'd be far too easy for the proletariats to mess up a lynch.

Death is yonder
06-01-2010, 19:28
"Right, we'll be a Mafia group together, killing people by setting them on fire."

Good enough for you? :D

Actually, "Yeah, let's come together to form a secret society/triad and pillage/cause chaos."
is slightly more accurate.



gah, simplified chinese. traditional is ALWAYS better :P

Simplified became the standard mother tongue for Chinese over here :clown:


Please feel free to point out any mistakes made in any Chinese proper nouns I write in game.

You should still ask taka though, my Chinese isn't that fantastic, a product of an upbringing in an ever modernizing global society where English is the 1st language of most people :laugh4:... (not China!)

Subotan
06-01-2010, 19:44
Subo, quick question: what difference does using blades/firearms make? Are there set characters that are invulnerable to certain weapons (although I'm not sure how you'd portray that)?
If they are standard townies, then the choice of weapon will have no impact on ultimate result; i.e. they die.


Seems like it'd be far too easy for the proletariats to mess up a lynch.
Depends on your point of view. It might be too easy for the Rightists to mess up a lynch.


You should still ask taka though, my Chinese isn't that fantastic, a product of an upbringing in an ever modernizing global society where English is the 1st language of most people :laugh4:... (not China!)
Singapore?

Jolt
06-01-2010, 19:58
Actually, "Yeah, let's come together to form a secret society/triad and pillage/cause chaos."
is slightly more accurate.

Tsk, tsk. You are lacking this: 和

I'm afraid I'm not versed in Chinese idioms. Alas! 这是第一年我在学习中文!

So "set fire" = "create chaos"?

EDIT: That is correct, Subotan, I'm in ;)

Diamondeye
06-01-2010, 20:18
Another time, definitely. It's not that I don't like the sound of this (because it sounds fantastic!), I just don't have the time in the Summer holiday.

shlin28
06-01-2010, 20:54
Tsk, tsk. You are lacking this: 和

I'm afraid I'm not versed in Chinese idioms. Alas! 这是第一年我在学习中文!

Actually, 和 is not strictly necessary when the words are arranged in this way :book:

I think I can put forward enough time for this game, exams are nearly over anyway. So IN.

Methos
06-01-2010, 21:07
Sign me up!

Double A
06-01-2010, 22:36
I don't know ANY Asian characters, so you guys can just keep on doing... whatever you're doing.

Azathoth
06-02-2010, 06:48
Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM must match for it to be successful.

The wording must be identical, or just the identity of the lucky comrade? There could be a small chance of three people selecting the same person with no prior communication otherwise.

Subotan
06-02-2010, 08:09
The identity. And the rules are different in this game, you can communicate out of thread.

Joooray
06-02-2010, 08:28
Alright, since I already missed the last two large games, I'll have to join this one.

Let's drive those Capitalist into the sea. :bow:

Cute Wolf
06-02-2010, 09:45
@ Subotan
the banned words are only in the gameroom right? I must wrote "town" for an instance, in the modding forum, since town-large town, and requirenments... hehehehe... :clown:
OH forgive those banned words :grin:

Azathoth
06-02-2010, 11:24
Is there a rule against referring to other Mafia games? I think there should be a rule against that.

Subotan
06-02-2010, 11:31
Why should there?

taka
06-02-2010, 11:32
actually despite my apparant super awesome chinese, i am in fact BBC (british born chinese) so english is my first language too, though i did study from 6yo til A levels

Jolt: set fire DOES mean set fire, but 杀人放火 is generally used to mean "doing bad stuff", like causing chaos for example.

im surprised too that theres quite a few chinese reading people on the forums, thought it would have just been me and beefy lol

anyways, can't wait for exams to finish and this to start!

Jolt
06-02-2010, 13:57
Jolt: set fire DOES mean set fire, but 杀人放火 is generally used to mean "doing bad stuff", like causing chaos for example.

bleh, a 4 character idiom. >_>

So "Kill Person Set Fire" = Wrong doing.

Azathoth
06-02-2010, 22:50
Why should there?

So I guess most of the men in the unit know each other from their former Jedi/pirate/vampire-hunter days?

Subotan
06-02-2010, 23:12
im surprised too that theres quite a few chinese reading people on the forums, thought it would have just been me and beefy lolMe too, I think there's at least five in this particular game :dizzy2:



So I guess most of the men in the unit know each other from their former Jedi/pirate/vampire-hunter days?
Some. But obviously, someone who was once a Sith my turn out to be a loyal Communist.

Azathoth
06-03-2010, 05:59
Though I think you overestimate the ease with which certain demographics could be reeducated, comrade, I will submit to your superior wisdom and experience. :shame:

Subotan
06-04-2010, 08:19
No sign ups in two days? People are going to have start coming here voluntarily, or I'm going to have to start badgering people...

Niklas
06-04-2010, 10:23
Thank you for the invitation. I will be in. :bow:

A Very Super Market
06-04-2010, 16:08
In.

Subotan
06-04-2010, 17:21
You have an obligation to actually say stuff this time, AVSM. :yes:

TheFlax
06-04-2010, 19:20
Generally I don't want to join two large games at the same time, especially when my own game is starting so soon. On the other hand, I think it would be a shame if you didn't find the 40 players you need Subotan since this seen like a really well crafted game. As such, can you please list me as a "reserve"? If by the time the game starts you are still missing players, you can just drop me in the general player list. :bow:

Secura
06-04-2010, 19:56
Guys, sign up darnit!

I've been looking forward to this historical game for months! :<

Subotan
06-04-2010, 20:15
There's not many of the "big names" who have signed up, I notice.

Double A
06-04-2010, 20:41
I'm offended.

Secura
06-04-2010, 21:17
There's not many of the "big names" who have signed up, I notice.

Meanie. :P

Subotan
06-04-2010, 21:46
I mean people like Sasaki, ATPG, Tincow etc. The ones who won't shut up (There I've insulted them, are you happy now?)

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-04-2010, 21:52
I mean people like Sasaki, ATPG, Tincow etc. The ones who won't shut up (There I've insulted them, are you happy now?)

I'm sure that in time you'll realise that I don't shut up. At least until my voice is heard.

Subotan
06-04-2010, 21:55
Good man. We need more people like you.

Double A
06-04-2010, 22:04
Again...

Sasaki Kojiro
06-05-2010, 05:45
In (where did this thread come from?)

Askthepizzaguy
06-05-2010, 06:38
I mean people like Sasaki, ATPG, Tincow etc. The ones who won't shut up (There I've insulted them, are you happy now?)

You gotta have a break from me once in a while. Come on, a game without my influence will be refreshing, seriously.

I also have to get ready to host a second game.... Star Fox Lylat Wars (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128601-Star-Fox-Lylat-Wars)

[/shameless advertising]

Subotan
06-05-2010, 08:41
I knew you weren't going to play, ATPG, I was just using you as an example.

GeneralHankerchief
06-05-2010, 08:51
As previously mentioned, in for the last game I'll play for a while. :yes:

Splitpersonality
06-06-2010, 03:16
Flipping in.

<3 Subotan

Azathoth
06-06-2010, 03:28
I can't wait to fail to put to use everything I've learned about being a good Mafia/townie.

Double A
06-06-2010, 05:43
That's two tallies before the game even started! Wow, you're even worse than you thought, fleshy human!

*insert robotic laughter here*

The Stranger
06-06-2010, 09:44
I decide not to enter actually, because i have exams coming up. sorry. but i'm out.

Subotan
06-06-2010, 10:36
I have exams coming up, and I'm hosting it

Jolt
06-06-2010, 10:55
I have an exam tomorrow! And three days from now!

Subotan
06-06-2010, 11:45
Me too, and I have 8 more over the course of June :2thumbsup:

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-06-2010, 11:57
We ALLLLL have exams! :dizzy2:

I'm sure everybody can take a bit of time to involve themselves in Subo's game. Especially given that Subo is taking Subo's time to host Subo's game.

Niklas
06-06-2010, 14:21
I don't. I give exams. :evil:

The Stranger
06-06-2010, 16:00
I have exams coming up, and I'm hosting it

well... ye sorry... but i want to give 100%. and i can't.

Double A
06-06-2010, 16:41
I don't. I give exams. :evil:

You horrible person!

:tongue:

Cute Wolf
06-06-2010, 21:13
this game will be really interesting.... for someone that was more active in teh mod forums to got interested to play in this game... even when he had a modding job to made.... :grin: --> that's me... heheheh....
好运 "书博蛋"

Subotan
06-07-2010, 15:44
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/content.php?r=50

Thanks Sigurd :beam:

ULC
06-07-2010, 16:02
*sigh* FINE IN, STOP BUGGING ME.

:laugh4:

Subotan
06-07-2010, 20:37
Another victim :devilish:

Wishazu
06-09-2010, 18:44
I have been invited here by Kagemusha, cheers mate. Oh, and thanks for the birthday message :)

In!

Seamus Fermanagh
06-11-2010, 01:37
Oh bother, I'll give it a try. Remember, I can be a bit spotty on weekends.

Subotan
06-11-2010, 18:05
We need more sign ups!

Askthepizzaguy
06-11-2010, 18:08
Ok make me a full player.

Expect me to be very quiet however. :bow:

Subotan
06-11-2010, 18:10
I'm sending out some draft cards to some people on the Database, so you may not have to if you don't want to ATPG.

Askthepizzaguy
06-11-2010, 18:18
I'm sending out some draft cards to some people on the Database, so you may not have to if you don't want to ATPG.

I just happen to have been invited to large games over on other sites, plus hosting two games... starting one, wrapping up the other, quite involved one.

Should I wind up dead early in other games, or my small game is finished, I should be more free. Until then I'll read and vote and wait quietly to die. :beam:

seireikhaan
06-11-2010, 20:04
Ok, I'm in.

Double A
06-11-2010, 20:06
We could always random lynch you day one if that'll make you feel any better.

seireikhaan
06-11-2010, 20:09
We could always random lynch you day one if that'll make you feel any better.
Well, that depends on how important my role is, naturally. :smug:

Askthepizzaguy
06-11-2010, 20:18
Yes, I too have suddenly decided that I want to live, not die. It has nothing to do with mafia recruitment. *waves hand*

these are not the scums you're looking for.

Subotan
06-11-2010, 20:19
Ok, I'm in.
You don't have a choice, you've been conscripted :grin2:

seireikhaan
06-11-2010, 20:23
You don't have a choice, you've been conscripted :grin2:
Sorry, but I was already conscripted before by the Green Berets. They just thought it would be a good idea to make sure I help spy on keep watch over things.

:wiseguy:

Subotan
06-11-2010, 20:31
I actually thought that I might end up sending one of my Draft Cards to someone who was actually drafted IRL, and I'm glad your reaction didn't turn out like my worst case scenario :sweatdrop:

And who knows, you may end up being a spy...

DELETE_THIS
06-12-2010, 10:08
This game needs some Dutch resistance fighters! in!

Double A
06-12-2010, 10:29
Gah?

landlubber
06-12-2010, 13:52
I'm in.

Subotan
06-12-2010, 14:10
Only three places left! Get them while they're hot!

On another note, I'm aware that there are a number of players for whom this will be their first game on the.Org, and indeed, first posts in general. I'm guessing that many of you are from CFC, and I of course welcome you wholeheartedly to the .Org and my game. However, it would be very disappointing if you were to sign up for this game and then not put the commitment in required to play.

That doesn't mean you need to be posting huge walls of text every day, ATPG style, but a vote every day and some discussion should be enough. I don't want to seem as if I'm suspicious of you, not at all, as we have had many people migrate over here from CFC in recent months, and they have all been excellent players. I'm just saying that it would be a terrible shame if you signed up to this and then forgot all about it. If you physically cannot find the time, for whatever reason, then PM me and I'll be able to get a replacement or whatever.

Double A
06-12-2010, 17:33
I'm not gonna be on till Sunday around 5pm

Subotan
06-12-2010, 18:02
You're gone for a whole week? And what timezone would that be?

wideyedwanderer
06-12-2010, 22:04
Only three places left! Get them while they're hot!

On another note, I'm aware that there are a number of players for whom this will be their first game on the.Org, and indeed, first posts in general. I'm guessing that many of you are from CFC, and I of course welcome you wholeheartedly to the .Org and my game. However, it would be very disappointing if you were to sign up for this game and then not put the commitment in required to play.

In. Is there a way I can be notified whenever I recieve a pm?

Askthepizzaguy
06-12-2010, 22:31
So far, almost all of the CFC people have been awesome. it's actually brand new .orgahs that I tend to worry about. :beam:

And if they forget about this game or my game, I will haunt them over at CFC. :laugh4:

Subotan
06-12-2010, 23:43
In. Is there a way I can be notified whenever I recieve a pm?
Apart from the PM itself? Apart from getting ATPG to become my personification on CFC and pm'ing you on CFC when you get one I don't think there is. The phases start at 22:00 BST and finish at 21:00 BST, to give me time to sort everything out, so check around that time every day for PM's and updates.

Double A
06-14-2010, 03:06
I meant today, GMT -5 or -6

Wishazu
06-15-2010, 09:04
So far, almost all of the CFC people have been awesome. it's actually brand new .orgahs that I tend to worry about. :beam:

And if they forget about this game or my game, I will haunt them over at CFC. :laugh4:

CFC?

Niklas
06-15-2010, 09:26
CFC?
Civilization Fanatics Center (http://forums.civfanatics.com) is where a lot of us originally hung out to play mafia games, until ATPG came along and started inviting people in both directions. ~:)

Subotan
06-15-2010, 09:27
Two days left, and only two space remaining!

Askthepizzaguy
06-15-2010, 09:59
Civilization Fanatics Center (http://forums.civfanatics.com) is where a lot of us originally hung out to play mafia games, until ATPG came along and started inviting people in both directions. ~:)

I am the match.com of the totalwar.org and civfanatics.com romance.

You guys were perfect for each other. I had foreseen it.

Azathoth
06-15-2010, 10:43
I am the match.com of the totalwar.org and civfanatics.com romance.

You guys were perfect for each other. I had foreseen it.

https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/45tg.jpg

ULC
06-15-2010, 13:44
https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/45tg.jpg

a bit big, but WIN, lol.

Double A
06-15-2010, 20:49
:laugh4:

Subotan
06-15-2010, 22:14
NOTIFICATION


Because I am a dumbass who does not know how to use calendars, the game is being brought forward a day early to fit into a more Subotan-friendly schedule. The game shall thus begin in approximately 24 hours, with the time it commences at being 22:00 GMT+1. I thus need TWO more people to join within the next 24 hours, so badger other Orgahs, CFCers whatever because the deadline is fast approaching.


I would like to inform people that I am currently in the middle of A Level exams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCE_Advanced_Level), and that these have to take priority over this game. I hope that the game shall not provide too much of a distraction, but I reserve the right to suspend write-ups for a day or so because of revision, or exams, or whatever. Such problems will not occur after the 30th of June.

Double A
06-15-2010, 22:20
Who isn't in that we can still spam till they cave?

Subotan
06-15-2010, 22:25
Yaropolk (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?24556-Yaropolk)

woad&fangs (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?25037-woad-amp-fangs)

slashandburn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?37459-slashandburn)

Lord Winter (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?13974-Lord-Winter)

Diana Abnoba (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?32865-Diana-Abnoba)

CountArach (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?18021-CountArach)

atheotes (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?23809-atheotes)

Haven't, and I sent draft cards to all of them

Subotan
06-16-2010, 15:33
OK, I realised that as well as not being able to use calendars, I can't count. It turns out I had 39 players, rather than 38, and I'm going to draft in the Flax, as we're just one short, and I want to start sending PMs.

PMs are now being sent :yes:

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-16-2010, 16:55
*Becomes excited*

Methos
06-16-2010, 18:23
Odd, apparently I forgot to mention it in this game. I'll be very busy the rest of this week and on vacation next week, so if you have a replacement player, feel free to give them my spot. Otherwise, my activity will be extremely low.

Subotan
06-16-2010, 18:54
OK. You could have warned me earlier, but that's by the by. I should be able to find a replacement in the next three hours.

TheFlax
06-16-2010, 21:10
OK, I realised that as well as not being able to use calendars, I can't count. It turns out I had 39 players, rather than 38, and I'm going to draft in the Flax, as we're just one short, and I want to start sending PMs.

PMs are now being sent :yes:

Tactical Reserves reporting for duty, sir! :wink:

Subotan
06-16-2010, 21:46
The game shall begin shortly, as I have found an IRL replacement for Methos. So play nice Orgahs!

Mods, please lock this thread.