2010 World Cup Bracket Prediction Thread [Archive]

drone

06-04-2010, 21:19

Now is your chance to be the .Org's football prognosticator extraordinaire. Guess the World Cup bracket results, and win the respect of fellow Orgahs and the admiration of women across the globe!

Rules:
Entries must be either posted in this thread or PM'ed to me (if you don't want to tip others with your picks) before the start of group play on June 11th, 1400 GMT(I think...). No edits should be made to these entries after the start of play, smack talking and discussion should be made in separate posts.
PM'ed entries with be made public once play starts.
I will try to post results and updated brackets/tiebreaker stats/point standings at the end of each round. (work schedule permitting).
The person with the most points wins. In the case of a tie, the tiebreaker entries will be used in ascending order to determine the winner.

Scoring:
Group Stage - 1 point (team advances out of group)
Group Stage Bonus - 1 point if team placement, 1st or 2nd in group, is correct
Round of 16 - 2 points per team advancing
Round of 16 Bonus - 2 points per pick if team is on the correct side of bracket
Quarterfinals - 4 points per team advancing
Quarterfinals Bonus - 4 points per pick if team is on the correct side of bracket
Semifinals - 8 points per team advancing
Semifinals Bonus - 8 points per pick if team is on the correct side of bracket
Finals - 32 points for correct pick
So to get the bonus points in all stages, you will need to correctly determine the group winners and runner-ups.

For reference, here are the groups:
France :france:, Mexico :mexico:, South Africa :southafrica:, Uruguay :uruguay:
Argentina :argentina:, Greece :greece:, Nigeria :nigeria:, South Korea :southkorea:
Algeria :algeria:, England :england:, Slovenia :slovenia:, USA :unitedstates:
Australia :australia:, Germany :germany:, Ghana :ghana:, Serbia :serbia:
Cameroon :cameroon:, Denmark :denmark:, Japan :japan:, Netherlands :netherlands:
Italy :italy:, New Zealand :newzealand:, Paraguay :paraguay:, Slovakia :slovakia:
Brazil :brazil:, Ivory Coast :cotedivoire:, North Korea :northkorea:, Portugal :portugal:
Chile :chile:, Honduras :honduras:, Spain :spain:, Switzerland :switzerland:
For entries, just cut this section (including code tags) out here and make your picks.

Groups RoundOf16 Quarters Semis Finals Semis Quarters RoundOf16 Groups
1A____________ ____________1B
|____________ ____________|
2B____________| | | |____________2A
|____________ ____________|
1C____________ | | | | ____________1D
|____________| |____________ | |____________|
2D____________| | | |____________2C
| ____________ |
1E____________ | | ____________1F
|____________ | ____________| ____________|
2F____________| | | | | |____________2E
|____________| |____________|
1G____________ | | ____________1H
|____________| |____________|
2H____________| |____________2G

Tiebreakers
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): ___
2: Total Number of Red Cards (straight up or 2 yellows) in Tournament: __
3: Golden Boot winner: __________
4: Wooden Spoon "winner": __________
5: Number of shanked PKs by England (missed, not saved, in game and in shootouts): __

After the group stage, I may put up a secondary contest for predicting the bracket as it is actually laid out. I think johnhughthom is doing actual game score live predictions in the World Cup thread. Someone else should fire up a World Cup fans (babes) contest.

johnhughthom

06-04-2010, 23:09

Sasaki Kojiro

06-04-2010, 23:31

Louis VI the Fat

06-05-2010, 00:01

Groups RoundOf16 Quarters Semis Finals Semis Quarters RoundOf16 Groups
1A__France__________ ___Argentina_________1B
|____France________ __Argentina__________|
2B__Nigeria__________| | | |_South Africa___________2A
|_____Serbia_______ ___Germany_________|
1C__England__________ | | | | ___Germany_________1D
|___Serbia_________| |______Spain______ | |_Germany___________|
2D___Serbia_________| | | |__USA__________2C
| ____Brazil________ |
1E_Netherlands___________ | | __Italy__________1F
|_____Netherlands_______ | ___Spain_________| Italy____________|
2F_Slovakia___________| | | | | |__Denmark__________2E
|__Brazil_________| |__Spain__________|
1G_____Brazil_______ | | _Spain___________1H
|___Brazil_________| |_____Spain_______|
2H__Chile__________| |__Portugal__________2GI picked very conservatively. Mostly relying on reputation more than form.

Some groups are quite easy to predict, others are impossible. I think goup A is the least predictable, it really could go any way. Group F - now that Drogba is out - I think is the most predictable.

I am relying on Serbia not to succumb to infighting, and on the Americans to take out Algeria for me.

France :france:, Mexico :mexico:, South Africa :southafrica:, Uruguay :uruguay:
Argentina :argentina:, Greece :greece:, Nigeria :nigeria:, South Korea :southkorea:
Algeria :algeria:, England :england:, Slovenia :slovenia:, USA :unitedstates:
Australia :australia:, Germany :germany:, Ghana :ghana:, Serbia :serbia:
Cameroon :cameroon:, Denmark :denmark:, Japan :japan:, Netherlands :netherlands:
Italy :italy:, New Zealand :newzealand:, Paraguay :paraguay:, Slovakia :slovakia:
Brazil :brazil:, Ivory Coast :cotedivoire:, North Korea :northkorea:, Portugal :portugal:
Chile :chile:, Honduras :honduras:, Spain :spain:, Switzerland :switzerland:

johnhughthom

06-05-2010, 00:13

Some groups are quite easy to predict, others are impossible. I think goup A is the least predictable, it really could go any way.

I thought Group D was the most difficult, I could imagine picking the other two teams on another day.

Louis VI the Fat

06-05-2010, 00:35

I thought Group D was the most difficult, I could imagine picking the other two teams on another day.I think Serbia has far better players than Oz and Ghana.

Then again, maybe I'm still recovering from Serbia pwning France in the qualification round.

Which, come to think of it, perhaps isn't all that much of an achievement. And I hear Serbia has a lot of internal strife. Maybe I overestimate their prowess.

drone

06-05-2010, 00:40

@Louis: I'll need your tiebreaker answers, and I take it you have Spain beating Brazil in the final?

@Sasaki: I know soccer has a bad reputation in the US, but 54 goals total? There are 64 total games in the tournament. :inquisitive:

Louis VI the Fat

06-05-2010, 00:47

Tiebreakers
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 142___
2: Total Number of Red Cards in Tournament: _21_
3: Golden Boot winner: ____Villa______
4: Wooden Spoon "winner": ___New Zealand_______
5: Number of shanked PKs by England (missed, not saved, in game and in shootouts): _2_Do red cards include two yellow, or only direct red cards?

Sasaki Kojiro

06-05-2010, 00:49

@Sasaki: I know soccer has a bad reputation in the US, but 54 goals total? There are 64 total games in the tournament. :inquisitive:

Yeah and USA plays 8 games of the 64...8X4=32...54-32= 22, so that's only 34 0-0 ties in the tournemant, not that extreme.

drone

06-05-2010, 01:03

Do red cards include two yellow, or only direct red cards?
Any sending off, straight red or 2 yellows.

Yeah and USA plays 8 games of the 64...8X4=32...54-32= 22, so that's only 34 0-0 ties in the tournemant, not that extreme.
:laugh4:

woad&fangs

06-05-2010, 01:09

AggonyDuck

06-05-2010, 01:12

naut

06-05-2010, 03:52

Grps Ro16 1/4 1/2 Final 1/2 1/4 Ro16 Grps
1A___Mexico____ ___Argentina___1B
|___Mexico____ __Argentina_|
2B___Nigeria___| | | |______France___2A
|___England___ __Germany___|
1C___England____ | | | | _____Germany___1D
|___England__| |___Brazil___ | |__Germany___|
2D___Australia__| | | |_________USA___2C
| ___Brazil___ |
1E___Netherlands_ | | _______Italy___1F
|_Netherlands_ | ____Spain___| ____Italy___|
2F___Paraguay____| | | | | |_____Denmark___2E
|___Brazil__| |____Spain___|
1G___Brazil___ | | ______Spain___1H
|___Brazil_______| |_____Spain___|
2H___Chile____| |___Portugal___2G

Tiebreakers
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 157
2: Total Number of Red Cards (straight up or 2 yellows) in Tournament: 18
3: Golden Boot winner: Luís Fabiano
4: Wooden Spoon "winner": South Africa
5: Number of shanked PKs by England (missed, not saved, in game and in shootouts): 1

Surprising how you've all gone for such conservative red card counts and goals scored. The last 5 world cups have an average red card count of 19.6. The average goals scored over the last 5 world cups is 147. Plus if you look at trends based on host nation (recent world cups only, for tactical reasons), there seems to be an affect over goals scored, with the defensive minded Italians hosting 1990 where only 115 goals were scored. So a chaotic country like South Africa should foster an attacking tournament.

Sarmatian

06-05-2010, 15:04

I think Serbia has far better players than Oz and Ghana.

Then again, maybe I'm still recovering from Serbia pwning France in the qualification round.

Which, come to think of it, perhaps isn't all that much of an achievement. And I hear Serbia has a lot of internal strife. Maybe I overestimate their prowess.

Where did you hear about internal strife? The atmosphere within the squad (and among the nation and the press, too) is the best I've seen in the last 15-20 years...

EDIT: And what's a "wooden spoon" award?

Louis VI the Fat

06-05-2010, 17:28

Where did you hear about internal strife? The atmosphere within the squad (and among the nation and the press, too) is the best I've seen in the last 15-20 years...

EDIT: And what's a "wooden spoon" award?I dunno, Sarmatian. I thought I remembered reading about volatile internal peace in the Serbian camp somewhere. Don't know where again.

A google reveals that Antic has the authority to be above strife, that the traditionally unruly and fractious players accept his authority. I guess I misread the point of some article then. Whereas Serbia, which always draws from a tremendous pool of talent, has always been prone to internal strife, it is not at this moment.

(Which remains to be seen - will the peaceful atmosphere hold in the face of possible adversity?)

The 'Wooden Spoon' is the Scotland Lifetime Rugby Award.

Secura

06-05-2010, 20:42

the admiration of women across the globe!

And by that you mean the few women who come to the Frontroom like me, right? :laugh4:

Here's my entry, anyway, based a bit on previous WCs I've seen, strength of the groups, selected 23-man squads and relevant injuries, so on and so forth. I based my total goal prediction on the fact that some of the stadia can be unsettling and many of the teams, European in particular, won't like those darn plastic trumpets that the South Africans use and there could be some problems with the heat and such. :3

Hopefully the formatting came out right... I used the shorthand FIFA codes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FIFA_country_codes) because some of the country names were long and made formatting a pain. ¬_¬

MEX___ ___ARG
|MEX___ ___ARG|
KOR___| | | |___FRA
|ENG___ ___GER|
ENG___ | | | | ___GER
|ENG___| |NED___ | |___GER|
SRB___| | | |___USA
| |
NED___ | ____ESP____ | ___ITA
|NED___ | | ___ITA|
PAR___| | | ___ESP| | |___DEN
|NED___| |___ESP|
BRA___ | | ___ESP
|BRA___| |___ESP|
SUI___| |___POR

Tiebreakers
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 129
2: Total Number of Red Cards (straight up or 2 yellows) in Tournament: 17
3: Golden Boot winner: Fernando Torres
4: Wooden Spoon "winner": Honduras
5: Number of shanked PKs by England (missed, not saved, in game and in shootouts): 1

Someone else should fire up a World Cup fans (babes) contest.

What the Dickens would that even entail? Checking out the WAGs? xD

And what is the Wooden Spoon award? Does it mean the team that scores the least, concedes the most, worst overall team, underperforming team? Or is it player-applicable?

drone

06-05-2010, 21:08

The Wooden Spoon "award" is for the worst team in the tourney. Least points in the group stage (usually 0), with the worst goal differential. Think USA in 1998 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_cup_1998). ~:rolleyes:

What the Dickens would that even entail? Checking out the WAGs? xD
You would have to clear it with the mods first, don't want to break the "babes in Babe thread only" rule. :yes:

naut

06-06-2010, 04:45

Secura since you have the Netherlands getting to the final I'm surprised you haven't picked van Persie for Golden boot. He's been scoring for fun lately. 4 in the last 3 friendlies if I am not mistaken.

johnhughthom

06-06-2010, 09:35

Isn't it obvious? He'll get injured.

naut

06-06-2010, 12:12

Isn't it obvious? He'll get injured.
Sadly this is 100% true...

Secura

06-07-2010, 01:01

I'm surprised you haven't picked van Persie for Golden boot. He's been scoring for fun lately. 4 in the last 3 friendlies if I am not mistaken.

Spain have a far easier group and I'd expect Torres to get at least two or three in the two games he plays for the groups, and then perhaps one or two more in the knockouts; I don't think we'll be seeing someone win the award with a huge amount of goals, it's more likely to be around the five/six mark. :3

drone

06-08-2010, 16:38

Here's my bracket.

Groups RoundOf16 Quarters Semis Finals Semis Quarters RoundOf16 Groups

1A___Mexico___ __Argentina_1B
|___Mexico___ __Argentina_|
2B_South Korea| | | |SouthAfrica_2A
|____USA_____ __Argentina_|
1C____USA_____ | | | | __Germany___1D
|____USA_____| |___Dutch____ | |___England__|
2D___Ghana____| | | |___England__2C
| Teh Orange |
1E_Netherlands | | ____Italy___1F
|_Nederlands_ | __Argentina_| ____Italy___|
2F__Paraguay__| | | | | |__Denmark___2E
|__Holland___| |____Spain___|
1G___Brazil___ | | ____Spain___1H
|___Brazil___| |____Spain___|
2H__Honduras__| |__Portugal__2G

Tiebreakers
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 185
2: Total Number of Red Cards (straight up or 2 yellows) in Tournament: 13
3: Golden Boot winner: Messi
4: Wooden Spoon "winner": North Korea
5: Number of shanked PKs by England (missed, not saved, in game and in shootouts): 2
The Dutch power through to the finals, being on the fairly weak side of the bracket. Argentina find their form, beat England on penalties, and make it past Spain in an entertaining 4-3 match. Then, drunk with power and high on cocaine, Maradona benches Messi (the eventual Golden Boot winner) and puts himself in at forward to relive his past glory. The experiment is not a success, and the Orange get their star.

Speaking of stars, it doesn't look like England have one on their emblem. What's up with that? Do they feel guilty that the ball didn't actually cross the line in '66? Would they be breaking some sacred heraldric convention by adding one? Is the lack of the star the cause of their woes since '66? It's a very curious omission. :inquisitive:

Ferret

06-08-2010, 23:36

Strike For The South

06-09-2010, 03:21

How do I get this thing to work

drone

06-09-2010, 03:31

How do I get this thing to work
How so? Just quote the OP, delete everything outside the code tags, and fill in the bracket and tiebreaks. I made the bracket lines 12 chars long, should hold the name of every country in the Cup. The code tags keep the char size fixed, so the formatting stays. It's not ideal, but I'm no webmaster. I'll fix formatting if necessary when I sum up at the start of the tourney.

The number-letter pair at the ends of the lines denote the first and second place teams of the 8 groups (A-H).

Strike For The South

06-09-2010, 03:41

drone

06-09-2010, 04:22

Fragony

06-09-2010, 15:14

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You owe me a mouthfull of beer, it's gone.

Joooray

06-09-2010, 16:42

Craterus

06-09-2010, 22:50

Secura

06-10-2010, 01:43

Joooray... if England are knocked out in the Round of Sixteen by Serbia, how do they miss six penalties?

Unless you're saying they miss one against the USA, one against Algeria, one against Slovakia and then three against Serbia? They're not that bad at them! xD

I base that final three on the fact that England currently hold the record for most penalties missed in a World Cup shootout (Lampard, Gerrard and Carragher against Portugal, Germany '06) and that I doubt any team would miss three and the shootout still be in a position to carry on unless the opposing team were equally as bad!

Jolt

06-10-2010, 02:42

I base that final three on the fact that England currently hold the record for most penalties missed in a World Cup shootout (Lampard, Gerrard and Carragher against Portugal, Germany '06) and that I doubt any team would miss three and the shootout still be in a position to carry on unless the opposing team were equally as bad!

https://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu150/Joltie/RicardoFrango.jpg
https://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu150/Joltie/crouchowned.jpg
:grin:

Secura

06-10-2010, 02:47

They were absolutely god-awful penalties; Lampard and Gerrard are both prolific scorers from the spot for their clubs, particularly the former, and yet both miss one of the most crucial penalties they will ever take on the international stage. I can only think that the circumstances of Rooney's sending-off (let's be honest, Ronaldo was interfering with the officials) had taken their toll on Lamps and Stevie GBH, and thus they failed to convert.

Owen Hargreaves is a fantastic penalty-taker who always seems to place them just out of the goalkeeper's reach (see his effort (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNG2-6KIXZY) during the Champion's League final in 2008; Cech didn't have a chance :3), shame he's not going to South Africa.

I need to hang out with my own gender more, clearly. xD

drone

06-10-2010, 02:52

Just to clarify, the tiebreaker for English penalties is for shanked kicks. Saved PKs don't count. If the keeper touches it, it doesn't count towards the total.

Jolt

06-10-2010, 02:55

Ronaldo interfered like any other player does, especially when his teammate is stepped on. Rooney should have: Watched his step, then watched his manners then watched his mouth in front of the ref. They simply failed to convert because they bucked under the pressure and Ricardo guessed the sides. Simple.

naut

06-10-2010, 05:19

Hmm. I'm leaning towards Ghana getting second spot in Group D over Australia. Having read up on their tactics, etc, they really stand a better chance than the defensive minded Aussies, even without Essien. I wish I made my predictions after doing that. Regardless that is a tight, tight group. With 4 very tactically aware sides, but Germany has all the flair this time, with Ozil, Khedira and Kroos. Plus they are the World Cup specialists (with players like Klose, Podolski and Schweinstieger).

Regardless, it really is Brazil's to lose. They are a solid unit, with fantastic tactics, much like Mourinho's at Inter last season. They may not have the flair of a typical Brazil side, but they control games, compress the space and are lightning fast on the break-away.

Romanic

06-10-2010, 10:23

My humble picks :bow:

Edit: I forgot the tiebreakers, see next post. :embarassed:

Romanic

06-10-2010, 10:43

Joooray

06-10-2010, 11:56

Joooray... if England are knocked out in the Round of Sixteen by Serbia, how do they miss six penalties?

I didn't really think that through. :grin:

Well I'll change it, also I wasn't only the missed PKs.

Thanks for pointing it out. :bow:

Louis VI the Fat

06-10-2010, 22:16

Next to this excellent pre-tournament game, there is also the in-game prediction game!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128428-The-unofficial-World-Cup-Thread/page3

Time to cast your predictions for the first matchday(s). Already, as we speak, those who think themselves knowkledgeable about anything football are having bitter arguments about who's right or wrong. This time, however, the Tavern will offer an objective measure about that.

Time for you all to join the fray and show the world who really knows his footy!

LittleGrizzly

06-11-2010, 00:52

Tiebreakers
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 135
2: Total Number of Red Cards (straight up or 2 yellows) in Tournament: 19
3: Golden Boot winner: Rooney
4: Wooden Spoon "winner": New Zealand
5: Number of shanked PKs by England (missed, not saved, in game and in shootouts): 1

Okay I really can't get my head around trying to use that format....

1A France VS Nigeria 2B (2B ?, second in group B)
1B Argentina VS 2A Uruguay

1C England VS 2D Serbia
1D Germany VS 2C USA

1E Netherlands VS 2F Paraguay
1F Italy VS 2E Denmark

1G Brazil VS 2H Chile
1H Spain VS 2G Portugal

Qaurters

England VS France

Argentina VS Germany

Netherlands VS Brazil

Italy VS Spain

Semis

England VS Brazil

Germany VS Spain

Final

England VS Spain

England beating Brazil is all about patrioitism... just don't have it in me to say they wont do it, never ever underestimate the Germans they're just like the Italians only with some German-ness that takes them over the top...

ohh and a winner ?
my brain tells me the Germans on penaltys my heart tells me England are going to take the thing 4-2 in extra time, with a hattrick from rooney sealing the golden boot (patriotism and loyalty the bane of football prediction!)

Winner

England!

Edit: even though you cant underestimate the Germans you can overestimate them, semi final place rather than final

Also Brazil for 3rd spot!

drone

06-11-2010, 03:16

If my time math is correct, 12 hours til the start of play. So fill out your bracket or make final edits!

Marshal Murat

06-11-2010, 03:42

1A France VS Nigeria 2B
1B Argentina VS 2A South Africa

1C England VS 2D Serbia
1D Germany VS 2C USA

1E Netherlands VS 2F Slovenia
1F Italy VS 2E Denmark

1G Brazil VS 2H Chile
1H Spain VS 2G Portugal

Quarters

England VS France

South Africa VS United States

Netherlands VS Brazil

Italy VS Spain

Semis

England VS Netherlands

South Africa VS Spain

Final

England VS South Africa

Invictus, the Sequel, "Boer War Revenge"
:laugh4:

LeftEyeNine

06-11-2010, 10:40

Okay, after having waited for the last minute to grab the latest news about who's out or not, here is my prediction table.

You may think I'm odd but I've spent 4 hours on the following table, checking every other player the teams have, taking looks at the statistics they bear and so on.

So, ladies and gentlemen, hereby I shall present you the prediction table of the renowned footy god LEN. :smoking:

Group Stage Qualifiers

:uruguay: URU

:france: FRA

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:argentina: ARG

:nigeria: NGA

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:england: ENG

:algeria: ALG

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:serbia: SER

:germany: GER

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:netherlands: NED

:denmark: DEN

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:paraguay: PAR

:italy: ITA

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:cotedivoire: CIV

:brazil: BRA

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:chile: CHI

:spain: ESP

Round of 16

:uruguay: - :nigeria:

:argentina: - :france:

:england: - :germany:

:serbia: - :algeria:

:netherlands: - :italy:

:chile: - :brazil:

:cotedivoire: - :spain:

:paraguay: - :denmark:

Quarter Finals

:uruguay: - :england:

:paraguay: - :brazil:

:argentina: - :serbia:

:italy: - :spain:

Semi-finals

:england: - :spain:

:argentina: - :brazil:

Third Place

:england:

Final

:spain: - :brazil:

Winners

:brazil: A Seleçao :brazil:

I had to make predictions on scores of every other match in the group stages so as to be able to figure out who'll make out as the 1st or 2nd and/or who'll be left out as the 3rd where points, or even the goal differences against each other, are equal. I can give out scores if you'd like to or should I save it for the other WC thread ?

Anyway, good luck.

drone

06-11-2010, 17:11

LeftEyeNine

06-11-2010, 18:12

I have forgot my notebook at the office so I can't sum up the scores I have predicted right now nor tomorrow. If you can wait till Monday for it, then I can join in. If not, you can count me out; I have done this prediction table as a continuation of my habit not for the game specifically. :bow:

Marshal Murat

06-11-2010, 18:14

1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 120
2: Total Number of Red Cards (straight up or 2 yellows) in Tournament: 12
3: Golden Boot winner: Rooney
4: Wooden Spoon "winner": Paraguay
5: Number of shanked PKs by England (missed, not saved, in game and in shootouts): 1

drone

06-11-2010, 18:56

I have forgot my notebook at the office so I can't sum up the scores I have predicted right now nor tomorrow. If you can wait till Monday for it, then I can join in. If not, you can count me out; I have done this prediction table as a continuation of my habit not for the game specifically. :bow:

I don't really have a problem with waiting til Monday for the tiebreaks. Your group placement selections are different enough from everyone else where it probably won't matter anyway.

Romanic

06-12-2010, 11:54

Grafite isn't even on the starting 11 and I'm picking him for the Golden Boot, shows how well I follow international football. Meh.

drone

06-16-2010, 20:03

After the first set of group games, tiebreaker updates:
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 25
2: Total Number of Red Cards (straight up or 2 yellows) in Tournament: 4
3: Golden Boot winner: Nobody with more than 1 goal
4: Wooden Spoon "winner": Australia
5: Number of shanked PKs by England (missed, not saved, in game and in shootouts): 0

drone

06-21-2010, 21:55

After the second set of group games, tiebreaker updates:
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 69
2: Total Number of Red Cards (straight up or 2 yellows) in Tournament: 8
3: Golden Boot winner: Gonzalo Higuaín (3)
4: Wooden Spoon "winner": North Korea
5: Number of shanked PKs by England (missed, not saved, in game and in shootouts): 0

Better scoring in the second round of games, we are now at 2.16 goals per game, up from 1.56 from the first set of games. I'll post the updated bracket scores after the final games on Friday.

LeftEyeNine

06-21-2010, 22:08

Hello drone, if any tie-breakers are needed, I lose.

:bow:

Secura

06-21-2010, 22:52

4: Wooden Spoon "winner": North Korea

I have to say that I don't agree with this; they may have been drubbed 7-0, but they have scored a goal and gave Brazil a very good game; they're also in a very tough group where they're unhighly likely to come out with anything at all. On the other hand, Honduras haven't gotten off the mark yet with points or goals yet, haven't looked likely to either; the scorelines of both games have flattered them, because Spain and Chile both should have scored alot more than they did. They're in a fairly open group in my opinion; you'd expect Spain to top it, but beyond that, the other three teams are on relatively equal footing compared to the Group of Death.

Just my own opinion, though.

drone

06-21-2010, 23:26

I'm just going by group points, then goal diff, then goals scored. And anything can happen in the final set of games. I seriously doubt this contest will be decided at Wooden Spoon. :yes:

drone

06-25-2010, 21:53

The knock-out stage bracket and tiebreakers after group play:

Groups RoundOf16 Quarters Semis Finals Semis Quarters RoundOf16 Groups
1A__Uruguay___ __Argentina_1B
|____________ ____________|
2B__S Korea___| | | |___Mexico___2A
|____________ ____________|
1C____USA_____ | | | | ___Germany__1D
|____________| |____________ | |____________|
2D___Ghana____| | | |___England__2C
| |
1E_Netherlands | | __Paraguay__1F
|____________ | ____________| ____________|
2F__Slovakia__| | | | | |____Japan___2E
|____________| |____________|
1G___Brazil___ | | ____Spain___1H
|____________| |____________|
2H___Chile____| |__Portugal__2G

Tiebreakers
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 101
2: Total Number of Red Cards in Tournament: 13
3: Golden Boot winner: Gonzalo Higuaín, Robert Vittek, David Villa (3)
4: Wooden Spoon "winner": North Korea
5: Number of shanked PKs by England (missed, not saved, in game and in shootouts): 0

Bracket scores so far:
(X advanced + Y correct side) * 1 (Group Points multiplier) = total points
johnhughthom 11 + 8 = 19
Sasaki Kojiro 9 + 9 = 18
Louis VI the Fat 10 + 8 = 18
woad&fangs 13 + 11 = 24
AggonyDuck 13 + 9 = 22
Psychonaut 11 + 7 = 18
Secura 11 + 7 = 18
drone 12 + 10 = 22
Elite Ferret 10 + 9 = 19
Strike For The South 9 + 9 = 18
Joooray 10 + 7 = 17
Craterus 11 + 8 = 19
Romanic 11 + 9 = 20
LittleGrizzly 11 + 7 = 18
Marshal Murat 10 + 8 = 18
LeftEyeNine 9 + 4 = 13

I think these are correct, I will double check them later. woad&fangs is in the lead, missing 3 advancements (picked South Africa, Nigeria, and Cameroon) and had England 1st, USA 2nd in Group C.

Edit-> sorry for the code tag colors, it worked when I started this thread...

woad&fangs

06-25-2010, 22:09

That was unexpected:laugh4:

drone

06-29-2010, 21:42

The knock-out stage bracket and tiebreakers after the Rof16 play:

Groups RoundOf16 Quarters Semis Finals Semis Quarters RoundOf16 Groups
1A__Uruguay___ __Argentina_1B
|__Uruguay___ __Argentina_|
2B__S Korea___| | | |___Mexico___2A
|____________ ____________|
1C____USA_____ | | | | ___Germany__1D
|___Ghana____| |____________ | |___Germany__|
2D___Ghana____| | | |___England__2C
| |
1E_Netherlands | | __Paraguay__1F
|_Netherlands | ____________| __Paraguay__|
2F__Slovakia__| | | | | |____Japan___2E
|____________| |____________|
1G___Brazil___ | | ____Spain___1H
|___Brazil___| |____Spain___|
2H___Chile____| |__Portugal__2G

Tiebreakers
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 101 + 22 = 123
2: Total Number of Red Cards in Tournament: 13 + 1 = 14
3: Golden Boot winner: Gonzalo Higuaín, David Villa, Robert Vittek (4)
4: Wooden Spoon "winner": North Korea
5: Number of shanked PKs by England (missed, not saved, in game and in shootouts): 0, so disappointed...

Bracket scores so far:
Group Stage Points + (X advanced + Y correct side) * 2 (Rof16 Points multiplier) = total points
johnhughthom 19 + (5 + 5) * 2 = 39
Sasaki Kojiro 18 + (5 + 5) * 2 = 38
Louis VI the Fat 18 + (5 + 5) * 2 = 38
woad&fangs 24 + (5 + 5) * 2 = 44
AggonyDuck 22 + (5 + 5) * 2 = 42
Psychonaut 18 + (5 + 5) * 2 = 38
Secura 18 + (5 + 5) * 2 = 38
drone 22 + (4 + 4) * 2 = 38
Elite Ferret 19 + (5 + 5) * 2 = 39
Strike For The South 18 + (5 + 5) * 2 = 38
Joooray 17 + (5 + 5) * 2 = 37
Craterus 19 + (5 + 5) * 2 = 39
Romanic 20 + (5 + 5) * 2 = 40
LittleGrizzly 18 + (5 + 5) * 2 = 38
Marshal Murat 18 + (3 + 3) * 2 = 30
LeftEyeNine 13 + (5 + 3) * 2 = 29

Just about everyone had Holland, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, and Spain through (and on the right side of the brackets), and no one had more than 5 correct, so not too much separation from this round. woad&fangs still in the lead, with AggonyDuck 2 points back.

drone

07-07-2010, 22:25

The knock-out stage bracket and tiebreakers up to the Final:

Groups RoundOf16 Quarters Semis Finals Semis Quarters RoundOf16 Groups
1A__Uruguay___ __Argentina_1B
|__Uruguay___ __Argentina_|
2B__S Korea___| | | |___Mexico___2A
|__Uruguay___ ___Germany__|
1C____USA_____ | | | | ___Germany__1D
|___Ghana____| |_Netherlands | |___Germany__|
2D___Ghana____| | | |___England__2C
| |
1E_Netherlands | | __Paraguay__1F
|_Netherlands | ____Spain___| __Paraguay__|
2F__Slovakia__| | | | | |____Japan___2E
|_Netherlands| |____Spain___|
1G___Brazil___ | | ____Spain___1H
|___Brazil___| |____Spain___|
2H___Chile____| |__Portugal__2G

Tiebreakers
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 101 + 22 + 10 + 6 = 139
2: Total Number of Red Cards in Tournament: 13 + 1 + 2 + 0 = 16
3: Golden Boot winner: David Villa, Wesley Sneijder (5)
4: Wooden Spoon "winner": North Korea
5: Number of shanked PKs by England (missed, not saved, in game and in shootouts): 0, so disappointed...

Bracket scores up to the final:
Group Stage Points + Rof16 Points + (X Advanced + Y correct side) * 4 (Quarters multiplier) + (X advanced + Y correct side) * 8 (Semis multiplier)= total points
johnhughthom 19 + 20 + (1 + 1) * 4 + (1 + 1) * 8 = 63
Sasaki Kojiro 18 + 20 + (2 + 2) * 4 + (0 + 0) * 8 = 54
Louis VI the Fat 18 + 20 + (2 + 2) * 4 + (1 + 1) * 8 = 70
woad&fangs 24 + 20 + (2 + 2) * 4 + (2 + 2) * 8 = 92
AggonyDuck 22 + 20 + (2 + 2) * 4 + (0 + 0) * 8 = 58
Psychonaut 18 + 20 + (2 + 2) * 4 + (1 + 1) * 8 = 70
Secura 18 + 20 + (3 + 3) * 4 + (2 + 2) * 8 = 94
drone 22 + 16 + (2 + 2) * 4 + (1 + 1) * 8 = 70
Elite Ferret 19 + 20 + (2 + 2) * 4 + (1 + 1) * 8 = 71
Strike For The South 18 + 20 + (2 + 2) * 4 + (1 + 1) * 8 = 70
Joooray 17 + 20 + (3 + 3) * 4 + (1 + 1) * 8 = 77
Craterus 19 + 20 + (2 + 2) * 4 + (1 + 1) * 8 = 71
Romanic 20 + 20 + (0 + 0) * 4 + (0 + 0) * 8 = 40
LittleGrizzly 18 + 20 + (2 + 2) * 4 + (1 + 1) * 8 = 70
Marshal Murat 18 + 12 + (2 + 2) * 4 + (0 + 0) * 8 = 46
LeftEyeNine 13 + 16 + (1 + 0) * 4 + (1 + 0) * 8 = 41

Good predictions by Secura for the quarter- and semi-final results gets her into the lead, with woad&fangs just behind. Obviously, those hours spent playing FIFA Manager have paid dividends. They both have Spain for the winner, so anyone with Holland and 62+ points still has a chance. Which apparently means just me. ~D :netherlands: :cheerleader:

Players that can still gain points:

Secura: 94 + Spain
woad&fangs: 92 + Spain
Elite Ferret: 71 + Spain
drone: 70 + Netherlands

Players with no more live selections:

Joooray: 77
Craterus: 71
Louis VI the Fat: 70
Psychonaut: 70
Strike For The South: 70
LittleGrizzly: 70
johnhughthom: 63
AggonyDuck: 58
Sasaki Kojiro: 54
Marshal Murat: 46
LeftEyeNine: 41
Romanic: 40

Secura

07-08-2010, 22:49

Come on Spain, don't let me down! :D

Although, even if they don't win, I'd still be really proud to come as high up as I have!

Sasaki Kojiro

07-08-2010, 23:07

hmm, I think I need the USA to win the final to have any chance.

drone

07-11-2010, 22:55

The Final bracket:

Groups RoundOf16 Quarters Semis Finals Semis Quarters RoundOf16 Groups
1A__Uruguay___ __Argentina_1B
|__Uruguay___ __Argentina_|
2B__S Korea___| | | |___Mexico___2A
|__Uruguay___ ___Germany__|
1C____USA_____ | | | | ___Germany__1D
|___Ghana____| |_Netherlands | |___Germany__|
2D___Ghana____| | | |___England__2C
| Spain |
1E_Netherlands | | __Paraguay__1F
|_Netherlands | ____Spain___| __Paraguay__|
2F__Slovakia__| | | | | |____Japan___2E
|_Netherlands| |____Spain___|
1G___Brazil___ | | ____Spain___1H
|___Brazil___| |____Spain___|
2H___Chile____| |__Portugal__2G

Tiebreakers
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 101 + 22 + 10 + 6 + 6 = 145
2: Total Number of Red Cards in Tournament: 13 + 1 + 2 + 0 + 1 = 17
3: Golden Boot winner: Thomas Mueller, David Villa, Wesley Sneijder (5)
4: Wooden Spoon "winner": North Korea
5: Number of shanked PKs by England (missed, not saved, in game and in shootouts): 0

Final totals:

Secura: 126
woad&fangs: 124
Elite Ferret: 103
Louis VI the Fat: 102
Joooray: 77
Craterus: 71
Psychonaut: 70
drone: 70
Strike For The South: 70
LittleGrizzly: 70
johnhughthom: 63
AggonyDuck: 58
Sasaki Kojiro: 54
Marshal Murat: 46
LeftEyeNine: 41
Romanic: 40

Beaten by a girl. ~D

:balloon: :balloon2: :bow: Congratulations, Secura! :bow: :balloon2: :balloon: Bragging rights for 4 years.

For grins, the tiebreaks:
145 goals total in the tournament, Elite Ferret was closest with 146.
Secura guessed the red card total on the nose at 17.
johnhughthom, Louis VI the Fat, and Elite Ferret guessed Villa for the Golden Boot, they came the closest. Mueller wins it with 5 goals and 3 assists.
SFTS, Jooray, Craterus, and myself got North Korea for the Wooden Spoon.
johnhughthom and Elite Ferret showed their confidence with England's PK abilities.

woad&fangs

07-12-2010, 03:09

Congrats to Secura :bow:

Secura

07-12-2010, 16:38

T'was bloody good fun, pretty narrow contest right to the end.

I made an absolute mess of the left half of the the draw, but kinda pulled it back with the Netherlands-Brazil, Argentina-Germany and Germany-Spain results. Pretty funny that my stab-in-the-dark for the total red cards was right on the money too. xD

Maybe now my opinion will matter rather than "oh, it's that chick who supports United". :P

drone

07-12-2010, 18:03

I made an absolute mess of the left half of the the draw, but kinda pulled it back with the Netherlands-Brazil, Argentina-Germany and Germany-Spain results. Pretty funny that my stab-in-the-dark for the total red cards was right on the money too. xD
Germany over Argentina made the difference. Although I should have docked you, woad&fangs and Elite Ferret points for putting England through to the semis. :tongue:

Secura

07-12-2010, 19:17

Although I should have docked you, woad&fangs and Elite Ferret points for putting England through to the semis. :tongue:

The thing is, England had the capability to progress; their group was easy, and the shape of other groups would have meant Ghana and Uruguay in the knockout stages, two teams that even the most pessimistic Englishman/woman would think England could get that past and progress to the semis. Instead, they ended up on the tougher side of the draw.

Part of me is glad that the reason I've preferred the Spanish national team over England for so many years has finally been proven to my friends and family; however, while they may not have beaten every team they played comprehensively (in fact, beating Portugal, Paraguay, Germany and the Netherlands by one goal each), they still played well in terms of passing and such. For me, it was still good to watch, whereas England was oft painful.

Louis VI the Fat

07-12-2010, 21:13

Hrmph. Chicks should limit their football involvement to a perfection of the art of serving you beer without walking in front of the telly. :snobby:

Bah, I messed up with all the little country upsets. I got Spain correct as winner, even down to their semis win over Germany and Germany beating Argentina in the quarters. I made a complete mess of the other side of the tournament.

I did get real close with the tiebreakers:

Tiebreakers
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 101 + 22 + 10 + 6 + 6 = 145
2: Total Number of Red Cards in Tournament: 13 + 1 + 2 + 0 + 1 = 17
3: Golden Boot winner: Thomas Mueller, David Villa, Wesley Sneijder (5)

Tiebreakers
1: Total Goals Scored in Tournament (not including shootout PKs): 142___
2: Total Number of Red Cards in Tournament: _21_
3: Golden Boot winner: ____Villa______

Congrats Secura! :balloon2:
And thanks for the fun game, Drone!

Vuk

07-12-2010, 21:36

lol, I am soooo glad that Dutchland lost. :P The only thing that would have made it better would be if the US team beat them. :beam:

drone

07-12-2010, 21:41

Bah, I messed up with all the little country upsets. I got Spain correct as winner, even down to their semis win over Germany and Germany beating Argentina in the quarters. I made a complete mess of the other side of the tournament.
Gah! That's my bad, I had you down with Brazil as the winners. Formatting/eye fail. Corrected standings.

Ferret

07-12-2010, 22:52

Well I'm very pleased with a podium finish, thanks for doing the hard work drone :2thumbsup:

Hosakawa Tito

07-13-2010, 00:30

T'was bloody good fun, pretty narrow contest right to the end.

I made an absolute mess of the left half of the the draw, but kinda pulled it back with the Netherlands-Brazil, Argentina-Germany and Germany-Spain results. Pretty funny that my stab-in-the-dark for the total red cards was right on the money too. xD

Maybe now my opinion will matter rather than "oh, it's that chick who supports United". :P

Hehehe, you've got 4 years of bragging rights so remind them...often. So kick back in your favorite recliner and direct Louis to fetch your favorite beverage and comfy slippers, tout de suite.:laugh4:

LeftEyeNine

07-16-2010, 17:33

Congrats to participants here as well, I guess it's time for me to move on (to badminton :book:).

:bow:

Ser Clegane

07-16-2010, 20:27

I guess it's time for me to move on (to badminton :book:).

:bow:

no, no, no - one can only move on to the next European championship or WC - it is a never ending chase.