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06-08-2010, 14:48
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Greetings Europa Barbarorum fans.
Today, we are proud to present the mighty Senatvs Popvlvsqve Romanvs. In this second preview for this faction, we will show you the new government system that has been designed for this faction by the Romani team. After that, we will show you some avatars based on our equites romani unit. Thirdly, we will display some in-game screenshots of the previously previewed strategy map settlements. And for the grand finale, we will show you images and descriptions of the fearsome legions of the Camillan period, plus a little video. Enjoy!
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In this preview, released previously by Twitter, we introduce the one of the core gameplay mechanics of Europa Barbarorum II. This exciting new feature builds upon the Government system from Europa Barbarorum I, but goes much, much further. It introduces individualised Government buildings for each faction, and uses relationships with other buildings to create a detailed, complex and ultimately rewarding experience that throws the player into the reality of a divided and politically active province and its people. The enemy is no longer simply outside your borders, now you will need to deal with those who would seek to undermine you from within.
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Following from the preview of the Authority buildings and details on how provinces will be represented in Europa Barbarorum II, we are proud to present the first of many faction-specific previews of this Authority system. As the Romani you will have the ability to expand your Empire as you see fit; will you focus on creating economic partners along the shores of the rich Mediterranean, or will you focus on expanding your military might through the subjugation of local political powers and the appropriation of their military traditions and manpower? In Europa Barbaroum II the choice is yours.
Listed below are all the Central Authority buildings available to the Roman faction in EB2. The buildings take their names from the political relationship that a region's people have to Rome.
Cives Romani
Cives Romani were full Roman citizens. They were obligated to serve in the legions and pay taxes. They enjoyed the right to seek election to public office, vote in elections, make contracts enforceable under Roman law, and to appeal the judgement of a Roman magistrate.
History: While a significant number of full Roman citizens were scattered throughout Roman-controlled Italy in 272 BC, they dominated only in Latium and its immediate neighborhood. Full Roman citizenship was granted to at least some Sabines in 268 BC and to the cities of Arpi, Fundi, and Formiae in 184 BC, but mass extension of full citizenship didn't occur again until the time of the Social War (91-88 BC). By the end of that conflict, all Italians living south of the Po became Cives Romani. In 49 BC Caesar gave full citizenship to the people of Gallia Transpadana, establishing the custom of granting full citizenship only to communities which had held Latin rights for several decades.
Game Effects: Only Latium begins the game with Cives Romani central authority. In the first half of our time period, only Cives sine suffragio central authority may be upgraded to Cives Romani. Later, it will also be available by upgrading Latini central authority. Regions with Cives Romani central authority have high replenishment rates for Roman troop types and receive a high public order bonus.
Latini
The Latini were Rome's most steadfast allies. Most Latini were descended from Roman colonists, or were colonists themselves. Latins were obligated to supply soldiers to the Roman army, exercised local political autonomy, and enjoyed most of the rights of Romans citizens; they were even allowed a limited right to vote in Roman elections.
History: The Latini were originally the citizens of the old Latin states. After most of these states were destroyed or absorbed by Rome after the Latin War, Latinitas became a purely political status. For example, the citizens of all but the smallest colonia founded in the 3rd C BC were Latini, even though most of the founding colonists were natives of Rome. In 272 BC, Latins were scattered throughout Italy, but were not predominant in any region. This remained the true until the Lex Pompeia of 89 BC gave Latinitas to the people of Gallia Transpadana. At this point, Latinitas became a stepping stone to full Roman citizenship. Later, Caesar extended Latinitas to Spanish communities that had helped him during the civil war and began the latinization of Narbonensis.
Game Effects: Latini central authority is only available in the latter half of the game, and then only in regions with a relatively high level of the city-state "religion". Latini central authority can eventually be upgraded to Cives Romani. Regions with Latini central authority have high replenishment rates for Roman troop types and receive a high public order bonus.
Cives Sine Suffragio
The Cives sine suffragio were Roman citizens who had most of the rights of the Cives Romani, but were unable to vote or seek election to Roman magistries. Like the Cives Romani, the Cives sine suffragio were obligated to serve in the legions and pay taxes.
History: In the peace settlement following the Latin War (338 BC), the Campanians and the Volscian towns of Fundi and Formiae were given civitas sine suffragio. Formally, cives sine suffragio were Roman citizens. In practice, this status was inferior to that of the Latins, and in some ways suffered in comparison to the socii. The Latins could vote in Roman elections, while the cives sine suffragio could not. Both the Latins and the socii supplied allied cohorts to the Roman army, but were free to raise troops however they wished. In contrast, the cives sine suffragio could be conscripted into the legions according Roman custom and practise. Finally, the Campanians did not enjoy the same degree of local autonomy as the Latini and socii, but were subject to Roman prefects.
The Campanians revolted from Rome during the 2nd Punic War and were stripped of all political rights when the Romans regained control of the region. In 290 BC, some Sabine communities were made Cives sans suffragio, the last time the Romans granted this type of citizenship.
Game Effects: Cives sine suffragio central authority exists only in Campania at the beginning of the game and may be upgraded to Cives Romani, though this transition will have some negative consequences. While Campania is under Cives sans suffragio central authority, it has high replenishment rates for Roman troop types and receives a moderate public order bonus.
Socii Foederati
States or tribes submitting to the Romans under the terms of a foedus, or treaty, sometimes became Socii foederati: permanent, subordinate military allies. The terms of each foedus were unique, but generally the socii were required to cede land to Rome and to contribute manpower to the Roman armed forces. Some of the ceded land was given to Roman settlers and used to found colonies. In exchange, the socii received military protection and local autonomy.
History: As Rome conquered Italy, most Italians became socii. Even as Rome expanded into the Mediterranean world, the socii remained predominantly Italian. However, it's clear that the Aetolians became socii in 189 BC, and arguably, Syracuse in 263 BC. All Italian socii south of the Po became Cives Romani after the Social War ended in 88 BC and those in Gallia Transpadana became Latini.
Game Effects: In the first half of the game, Socii Foederati central authority is an upgrade of the Military Government type. It may be upgraded in the second half of the game to Cives Romani or Latini if the region has a sufficiently high city-state "religion" percentage. Regions with Socii Foederati central authority receive a moderate public order bonus, moderate replenishment rates for regional troop types, and permit construction of Roman colonies.
Provinciales
Provinciales were the inhabitants of provinciae, conquered states governed directly by a senior Roman magistrate: a praetor, propraetor, consul, or proconsul.
History: The earliest Roman conquests outside of Italy were usually governed as provinciae: Nearer and Further Spain, Sicily, and the single provincia of Sardinia and Corsica. Conquests in the east, such as Greece and Macedonia, were at first treated differently, but became provinciae later on. Colonies were not founded in provinciae until the end of the republican period. Provinciales paid a tax or tribute (usually collected by Roman publicani, or tax farmers) and might be required to raise troops, though normally only in cases of a local emergency.
Game Effects: The Provinciales central authority is an upgrade of the Military Government type. It may be upgraded to Latini in the latter part of the game if the region has a high city-state religion percentage. Regions with Provinciales central authority receive a moderate public order bonus, and low replenishment rates for regional troop types.
Civitates Liberae
Some conquered regions were made "free" in the sense that they were freed from the dominion a king or external power. No colonies were founded there, they were not placed under any military obligation, and Roman armies were removed from their territory. The civitates liberae retained local political autonomy, but Rome might first dictate extensive internal arrangements.
History: After the Third Macedonian War, the people of both Illyria and Macedonia were made free, but both states were partitioned into four self-governing districts and obligated to pay a tax. In Macedonia, the sale of property and intermarriage between inhabitants of different districts was forbidden and gold and silver mining was prohibited. One of the four districts was allowed no army, and none were allowed to cut timber for naval construction.
There was no formal alliance between the states of the civitates liberae and Rome, but it practice they functioned as Roman protectorates.
Game Effects: Civitates Liberae central authority is an upgrade of the Military Government type. Civitates Liberae central authority may not be upgraded; it must be destroyed in order to change the authority type. Regions under this type of authority receive a high public order bonus and very low replenishment for regional troops. Income from farming, trade and mining is limited.
Client State
A Client State is a state in which a local ruler received Roman backing in return for his support of Roman political interests.
History: Particularly on the east, the Romans initially preferred to avoid direct rule of conquered territory. The Client State was one institution that permitted this. An early example of a Client state was most of "Roman" Illyria after the first Illyrian war, governed by Demetrios of Pharos. Later examples of client rulers quickly become too numerous to list, but include Eumenes II of Pergamon, Masinissa, and Prusias of Bithynia. Client states payed no tax or tribute, but might occasionally be expected to lend troops to Roman magistrates, as Deiotarus of Galatia did when M. Tullius Cicero was governor of Cilicia.
Game Effects: Client State central authority is an upgrade of the Military Government type. The Client State may not be upgraded; it must be destroyed in order to change the authority type. Regions under this type of authority can recruit a client ruler. They receive a high public order bonus and low replenishment for regional troop types. Income from taxation, farming, trade, and mining is limited.
Military Government
A Military Government is necessary to lay the foundation for any later political arrangement in a region.
History: Until Rome determined how to administer a conquered region, it was under military rule. This often required a treaty, often proposed by the consul commanding the occupying Roman army. However, it was necessary for the treaty provisions to be approved by the Senate and people of Rome. If there was any desire on the part of the Senate and people to modify the treaty, a commission of senators would be dispatched to the conquered region to investigate the matter and confer with the consul. Consequently, a year or more might pass before a treaty was agreed to by the the Roman government.
Game Effects: A region must have a Military Government central authority building before any other central authority building may be constructed. Military Government central authority confers a small public order bonus, unit recruitment isn't permitted, and income from taxation, farming, trade and mining is extremely limited.
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Using the equites romani unit, Martelus Flavius created some customised avatars for you. Now, you can use these avatars in the TW fora.
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In our last Romani preview, we revealed some strategy map city model renders for the Romani; now is a good occasion to show you some pictures of these strategy map models in game:
Village
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Town
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City
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Large City
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Huge City
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-Praetor-
06-08-2010, 14:49
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The Organisation and Tactics of the Camillan Army
The Roman army of 272 BC is a late development of the Camillan army. The only description of the organisation of the Camillan army which has survived comes from Livy (8.8-10). His purpose is to help the reader better understand the action in his narration of battle of the Veseris, so his account is also useful for its description of the army's manipular tactics.
The Camillan army was composed of the equites, or cavalry, and six infantry classes: the triarii, principes, hastati, rorarii, leves, and accensi. These five infantry classes may correspond roughly to the six classes of the early Servian military system. If so, the triarii correspond to the first class, the principes to the second class, and so on, with the leves and accensi both corresponding the fifth class. This correspondence also suggests that the various classes of the Camillan infantry were based in part on wealth. Until the late 2nd C BC, Roman soldiers supplied their own arms and equipment. Consequently, the youngest soldiers may have been placed in the leves if they were poor, or the hastati if they were wealthier. Older soldiers may have taken their places in the rorarii, principes, or triarii depending on the equipment they could afford.
Except for the leves (meaning "light-armed"), each infantry class was organised into fifteen maniples. Each maniple was composed of two centuries, and each century had thirty men. Twenty leves were attached to each maniple of hastati. With a total of 300 leves and 900 of each of the other other five classes, there were a total of 4800 men in a Camillan legion. This is in close agreement with Livy's round figure of 5000. In addition, the legion had 300 equites.
The legion was deployed for battle with the leves - armed with a spear and javelins - in front of the rest of the army, prepared to skirmish with the enemy. Behind them, the hastati, principes, and triarii were arranged in three consecutive lines. The hastati formed a line with with wide gaps between neighboring maniples. The principes formed a similar line behind the hastati, but shifted to one side so that each maniple was positioned behind a gap between maniples of hastati. The triarii were positioned exactly as the hastati, but behind the principes. Maniples of the rorarii were stationed immediately behind the triarii, and the accensi immediately behind the rorarii. In fact, one maniple each of triarii, rorarii, and accensi is called an ordo. The dispostion of the equites isn't mentioned, but they were probably deployed on one of the army's flanks.
In battle, the leves would skirmish until they had exhausted their javelins or been driven back by an enemy advance. Then the hastati would attack. If they couldn't defeat the enemy, they would withdraw through the gaps between the maniples of the principes, and the principes would continue the battle. If the principes were also unsuccessful, they would withdraw through the gaps between the maniples of the triarii. The triarii would then close the gaps to form a continuous line, engage the enemy, and determine the outcome of the battle.
The combat role of the rorarii isn't clear from Livy's description. He states that they were initially deployed near the rear of the army, and mentions them engaging in combat after the principes but before the triarii. At the same time, he seems to imply that they had also taken part in an earlier stage of the battle. The role of the accensi is also vague. They are positioned at the very rear of the army, and in Livy's battle description, they never engage in combat. Their only action is to fool the enemy into thinking the triarii had been committed to battle. This tends to indicate that the accensi were not combatants at all, but servants or unarmed replacements.
Leves
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The leves (meaning "light-armed") are the light infantry of Roman legions and Latin cohorts. In battle, they are positioned in front of the rest of the army, where they skirmish with the enemy until their javelins are exhausted or an enemy advance drives them behind the heavy infantry. They may also be called upon to pursue a broken enemy.
The leves are armed with a spear and several light javelins. They wear no helmet or body armour, relying on speed and agility to preserve them from harm.
The leves are the youngest and poorest combatants in the army. Roman leves are recruited chiefly from Latium and its immediate vicinity, while Latin leves may be recruited from any region where a Latin colony is found.
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Hastati
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The hastati constitute a Roman army's first line of heavy infantry. A legion's hastati are organized into fifteen maniples of 60 men, and are the first to engage the enemy in close combat. In most cases their role is to wear down opposing troops. If they don't defeat the enemy before tiring, they withdraw behind the second line of heavy infantry, the principes, who carry on the battle.
Each hastatus is armed with two javelins, which he throws before engaging his opponent with a short sword, xiphos, or machaira. He carries a scutum (a large oblong shield) and wears a bronze helmet decorated with feathers or a plume. A few of the hastati may wear a bronze pectoral plate on their chests and a matching plate on their backs, He may also wear a greave or two to protect his lower legs.
The hastati are primarily younger men from farming families with enough wealth to afford the weapons and equipment described above. Roman hastati are recruited chiefly from Latium and its immediate vicinity, while Latin hastati may be recruited from any region where a Latin colony is found.
(Disclaimer: This unit is still work in progress in terms of its model and skin, and the legionary animations haven't been implemented yet)
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Principes
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The principes form a Roman army's second line of heavy infantry. A legions' principes are organised into fifteen maniples of 60 men, and the maniples are arranged in a line with gaps between them. They enter battle after the first line of infantry, the hastati, tire and withdraw through the gaps between maniples. If the principes are unable to defeat the enemy, they withdraw through the gaps in the third line of heavy infantry, the triarii, and the triarii finish the battle.
Each princeps is armed with two javelins, which he throws before engaging his opponent with a thrusting spear. He carries a scutum (a large oblong shield) and wears a bronze helmet decorated with feathers or a plume. All principes wear some form of body armor and a pair of greaves.
The principes are men in their mid-twenties from farming families with enough wealth to afford the weapons and equipment described above. Roman principes are recruited chiefly from Latium and its immediate vicinity, while Latin principes may be recruited from any region where a Latin colony is found.
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Triarii
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The triarii form a Roman army's last line of heavy infantry. Like the rest of the legion's heavy infantry, they are organised in to fifteen maniples of 60 men each. The maniples are arranged in a line with gaps between them and rest on one knee while the first two lines of heavy infantry engage the enemy. If the hastati and principes are unable to win the battle themselves, they retire through the gaps in the line of triarii. The triarii then close the gaps in their line and enter combat like a hoplite phalanx to decide the battle.
Each triarius is armed with a thrusting spear and a sword. He carries a large round shield and wears a bronze helmet decorated with feathers, a plume, or a crest. All triarii wear some form of body armor and a pair of greaves.
The triarii are experienced soldiers wealthy enough to afford a hoplite panoply. Roman triarii are recruited chiefly from Latium and its immediate vicinity, while Latin triarii may be recruited from any region where a Latin colony is found.
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Equites romani
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The equites are the cavalry of the Roman legions and cohorts of the Latin allies. Each legion had about 300 equites and a Latin cohort about 30. The equites would generally be deployed on the flanks of a Roman army.
The equites are armed with a spear and sword, carried a round cavalry shield, and wore a fine bronze helmet. Polybius was probably referring to the cavalry of the Camillan army when he wrote "in old times they had no cuirasses" and "were nearly naked". While this is almost certainly an exaggeration, the Roman and Latin cavalrymen of this period seem to be lightly armoured in the Italic tradition, some wearing large and small breastplates and linothorakes, but many wearing no body armour at all.
The equites are recruited from among the wealthiest and most influential members of Roman society. Typically, a young Roman aristocrat's career began with service in the equites. Many of the mounts (the equo publico) ridden by the equites were provided by the state with funds raised by a tax on widows and orphans. However, the equites also received the service of the less wealthy men who were able to provide themselves with a suitable mount. Roman equites are recruited chiefly from Latium and its immediate vicinity, while Latin equites may be recruited from any region where a Latin colony is found.
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Hastati sabelli
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"Sabellian" is a term meant to encompass most of the Oscan-speaking tribes of Italy, and includes the groupings known as the Samnites, Lucani, Bruttii, Campani, and Apuli. The Sabellians are a notably warlike people who frequently served as mercenaries with Greek armies in Italy and Sicily, and who fought a series of wars against the Romans over a period fifty years as Rome expanded into southern Italy. Even after Rome had conquered them, some Sabellians were always willing rebel, joining the armies of Pyrrhus and of Hannibal, and finally launching the Social War almost 200 years after Rome had conquered the Italian penninsula. When not in revolt, the Sabellians supplied roughly half of the manpower of Rome's Italian allies.
The Sabellian spearman represents the prototypical Sabellian warrior. He is armed with an oblong, spined shield, a pair of javelins, and a thrusting spear. He commonly wears an Attic helmet with a crest, plume, or several feather holders. Montefortino helmets are common too. Most have some form of chest protection: the triple disk cuirass, and both large and small pectorals, but some wear no armor at all. All wear a broad bronze belt, and most are equipped with a pair of greaves. Finally, they wear short tunics that drape apron-like in the front and back.
The Sabellian spearmen are recruited from all of the sabellian tribes of the Italian penninsula, from Picenum north of Rome, to Bruttium at the toe of the Italian boot.
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Equites sabelli
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"Sabellian" is a term meant to encompass most of the Oscan-speaking tribes of Italy, and includes the groupings known as the Samnites, Lucani, Bruttii, Campani, and Apuli. The Sabellians are a notably warlike people who frequently served as mercenaries with Greek armies in Italy and Sicily, and who fought a series of wars against the Romans over a period fifty years as Rome expanded into southern Italy. Even after Rome had conquered them, some Sabellians were always willing rebel, joining the armies of Pyrrhus and of Hannibal, and finally launching the Social War almost 200 years after Rome had conquered the Italian penninsula. When not in revolt, the Sabellians supplied roughly half of the manpower of Rome's Italian allies.
The equites sabelli were the most common type of cavalry employed by the Sabellians and enjoyed a high reputation. They probably made up at least one third of the cavalry strength of a typical consular army. These cavalrymen are armed with a spear, sword, and two javelins. A number of south Italian tomb paintings show Sabellian horsemen carrying round or oblong spined shields and wearing crested (and sometimes winged) Attic helmets with paired feather holders. Other striking helmets are also portrayed. None wear heavy body armour; the triple-disk cuirass and large muscled pectoral can be identified, but most wear no chest protection. All are girt with a broad bronze belt, and greaves are sometimes worn, even by cavalrymen who are otherwise unarmoured. Almost all are barefoot, and on these we observe ankle bands which may mount spurs. Finally, all wear very short tunics which frequently fail to make the rider's hindquarters any less evident than those of his horse.
The equites sabelli are recruited from all of the sabellian tribes of the Italian penninsula, from Picenum north of Rome, to Bruttium at the toe of the Italian boot.
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And as a special gift for you friends, here it is: the current intro video of the Romani. Hope you like it.
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Now you can show support for Europa Barbarorum with our signature banners, featuring the mighty Romani! Courtesy of Gustave.
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We hope you have enjoyed this preview of some of this faction's features and graphic art. And stay tuned, for there are many other factions still to be previewed.
Please note that unless stated otherwise, ALL pictures, names, and descriptions shown in our previews are works in progress. We continue to improve on all parts of EB II, and we will continue to do so long after our initial release.
Since some areas where these news items are posted cannot handle wide images, we appreciate your restraint from quoting full-size images.
As always, if you have questions or comments, the best place to post them is here, where the EB team is most active:
Europa Barbarorum ORG forum (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=70)
Europa Barbarorum TWC forum (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=31)
Credits are due to the Romani team for this preview. We give special thanks to Atilius for the text work on the "Government System" chapter; []Aba for the strat map settlements skins and models; Tux, JMRC and Martelus Flavius for the unit models; Martelus Flavius, Gustave and JMRC for the unit skins; -Praetor- for the video; Teleklos Archelaou and Oudysseos for this preview's artwork; and I Am Herenow for spelling and grammar correction.
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Have a great day!
Regards,
The Europa Barbarorum team.
anubis88
06-08-2010, 14:56
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA OOOOOO MYYYY GOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love it!!!
Now... to read it all... :D:D:D
You made my day/week/month/year
EDIT: How can i use the new avatars?
thanx
stratigos vasilios
06-08-2010, 14:58
Oh wow! This looks amazing!
Horatius Flaccus
06-08-2010, 14:58
Ah, amazing! I'm going to read it right away!
O.o OMG! Incredible............ gr8 job once again EB team !
EDIT : The animathions are so smooth and clean... gj!
I have a few questions : When u inplant the legionary animation will it have a death animation and are those vanila horses or the new ones you`ve made?
Congratulations once again!
mountaingoat
06-08-2010, 15:21
excellent , very nice video :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Lvcretivs
06-08-2010, 15:21
As always, an brilliant preview by the EBII team - marvellous research, game implementation and artwork! Excellent skins and unit models - just look at those hastati/equites sabelli, right out of the frescoes! - really amazing work!
Julianus
06-08-2010, 15:49
Oh great, gotta love the government system especially.
Apázlinemjó
06-08-2010, 15:50
The second Romani preview, none guessed that lol. When EB2 comes out, a few historical RTS will lose the playerbase.
machinor
06-08-2010, 16:09
Is this awesome? (y/n)
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!
Aulus Caecina Severus
06-08-2010, 16:19
OMG!!!!
Is this a dream?!?
Belisarius II
06-08-2010, 16:33
Helluva way to say good morning!
Why do the Hastati hold their shields so horizontally?
-Praetor-
06-08-2010, 17:37
Why do the Hastati hold their shields so horizontally?
Animations for the hastati haven't been implemented yet, so they use the vainilla anims.
HunGeneral
06-08-2010, 17:40
Looks really nice - very well made. Simply can't wait for EBII...... (these romans really look worthy to fight with .... or against....)
Fluvius Camillus
06-08-2010, 17:58
Again, it is staggering to see what EB II will be like, and this is just a fragment.
I love it! Great job!
~Fluvius
Paltmull
06-08-2010, 17:59
I'll give you my standard reply to these previews:
:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop:
simply awesome
Andronikos
06-08-2010, 18:48
Amazing, simply amazing.
BTW could you please upload blank sheets which you used for the gameplay pdf (with some trademark of EB of course)? The background is really nice.
Perhaps a stupid solution, because it is obvious, but when models for late Roman units are finished, they could be added to the video, with title like "And train undefeatable world conquering armies".
Klearchos
06-08-2010, 18:58
Great preview!!
That spear charge in 1:31 is AWESOME!!!!!!
Captain Jazzy
06-08-2010, 19:55
Amazing...
Oh and how do i get one of those images images as my avitar?
darius_d
06-08-2010, 20:05
finally, my dream came true when I saw roman legionaires marching with pilum in hand, in TW ingame footage.
Pity not new horses though. Whatever, great job guys.
What's next then? Is any hope for some carthaginian preview anytime soon?
ComteTallaFerroXIV
06-08-2010, 20:06
COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!
No more clone legions!!!!!
antisocialmunky
06-08-2010, 20:17
Looking forward to it.
OMG!! Awesome job as always.
At last a worthy enemy, it will be great to tear their limbs apart, one by one.
MisterFred
06-08-2010, 21:15
Absolutely love the Outlying Authority concept, this in combination with the beautifully elegant religion system looks to be fantastic. Although I do hope there will be some notable benefits for investing in giant showy temples :egypt:.
oudysseos
06-08-2010, 21:27
notable benefits for investing in giant showy temples .
The gods will love you more.
SwissBarbar
06-08-2010, 21:41
Awesome ^^
That video made me nerdgasm. I cannot wait for EBII, I haven't been this excited about a game in years.
Wow!:jawdrop: Great video. Amazing
Bucefalo
06-08-2010, 23:20
Awesome preview, and the video was just epic with the music. Amazing work in all aspects. After reading all the information (i appreciate making it easy to read) i got some questions thought.
-If i read correclty, the accensi will no longer be a unit, based about what i read on the preview about the only source of them in battle having them as not being combatants. But what about the rorarii, will they also be removed? It seems like it is not very clear what their purpose was on the roman manipular formation, and with all the existing units i think the formation is quite well represented with no need to add more units to it. I don´t think they fulfilled a particularly important role on the formation anyway, otherwise there might have been more sources speaking about them.
-I´ve never read the word "sabellians" to refer to the italian tribes like samnites, campanians, etc. but i appreciate the explanation, you learn something new everyday. I wonder if there will be other units representing specific tribes (for example say campanian cavalry), or if the sabellians units are meant to represent these italian allies/enemies of rome in a general way. So basically what i am asking is if these sabellian units will be restricted to the romans, or if these may appear as mercenaries for other factions. And if the units available in the area will follow this general terminology "sabelli" or there may be some specific units like the campanian cavalry i mentioned before.
-Lastly, i don´t think this have much to do with this preview, but more with the romans as showed in EBI (and probably in EBI as well). If i remember correctly, both the hastati and principes were armed with pilum, scutum, sword and spear. I understand the limitations of the engine, and that no unit can have more than 2 weapons (pilum + sword or pilum + spear). What i wonder is why the principes use thrusting spears, while the hastati use swords. I can see the reasoning behind the triarii using mainly their spears, as they fight in a hoplite formation after all, but if i understand correctly (and please correct me if i am wrong) back in antiquity swords were much rarer and expensive to come by than spears, so i imagined that the richer principes would be equiped with swords. IIRC this was the case in EBI as well, and with the Polybian reforms the principes changed their weaponry to swords. I would appreciate any insight of what made you choose which weapon to give these units.
Thanks in advance, and also thanks for taking the time to make this preview.
Cadwalader
06-08-2010, 23:25
Mmm, that's good preview!
Frankly I don't know how to thank you. If only forum balloons were real and made of money. :thinking:
Mulceber
06-09-2010, 00:39
Just...wow...I can't wait to conquer the world...again! -M
Noble Wrath
06-09-2010, 00:53
It seems the Gallic naked dudes have finally found their match: the half naked (bellow the waist) Sabelli dudes!
Instead of saying again how awesome your work is, I'll tell you that a while ago I was in a cafe with my girlfriend and I suddenly realised that I had been explaining to her for a quarter of an hour or so, the reasoning behind the introduction of thureophoroi and thorakitai in the hellenistic armies. Yeah, your work is THAT awesome.
-Praetor-
06-09-2010, 01:39
It seems the Gallic naked dudes have finally found their match: the half naked (bellow the waist) Sabelli dudes!
Instead of saying again how awesome your work is, I'll tell you that a while ago I was in a cafe with my girlfriend and I suddenly realised that I had been explaining to her for a quarter of an hour or so, the reasoning behind the introduction of thureophoroi and thorakitai in the hellenistic armies. Yeah, your work is THAT awesome.
You're kidding, right? You should be reasoning the introduction of other things, but oh well...
At least an old saying is true. Play EB: It gets you laid.
Noble Wrath
06-09-2010, 01:55
You're kidding, right? You should be reasoning the introduction of other things, but oh well...
At least an old saying is true. Play EB: It gets you laid.
:beam: The poor girl has suffered a lot of my rumblings...
It's not a secret any more that we EBers are like the gynaikonomoi of old :2thumbsup:
-I´ve never read the word "sabellians" to refer to the italian tribes like samnites, campanians, etc. but i appreciate the explanation, you learn something new everyday.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabellians
What i wonder is why the principes use thrusting spears, while the hastati use swords.
I can't answer you fully on this but I recall there being a mention by Plutarch of the Hastati using swords against Pyrrhos's troops.
This is quite possibly the best preview yet. The EB Team never ceases to astound me. Really, my jaw dropped when I saw the hastati and the Romani intro video.
I have just one suggestion/question: would it not make more sense for the text to read "For it is not permitted for the Romani people, whom the gods wanted to rule over all peoples, to be in servitude"? As it is, it's a little confusing. Just a minor detail, nothing more.
Can we look forward to intro videos for all of the factions?
If i read correclty, the accensi will no longer be a unit, ... But what about the rorarii, will they also be removed?
You're correct about the accensi. We believe that we have a suitable interpretation of the Rorarii, so they will appear eventually. We just felt that they weren't necessary for our initial release.
I wonder if there will be other units representing specific tribes ... or if the sabellians units are meant to represent these italian allies/enemies of rome in a general way. So basically what i am asking is if these sabellian units will be restricted to the romans, or if these may appear as mercenaries for other factions.We will have at least one more Sabellian unit, and one or two "tribal" units. In addition, we'll have a couple more Italian units. All Sabellian units will be available as mercenaries, and while we haven't finished our recruitment system, I would like them to be available for normal recruitment to any faction controlling one of the relevant provinces.
What i wonder is why the principes use thrusting spears, while the hastati use swords. I can see the reasoning behind the triarii using mainly their spears, as they fight in a hoplite formation after all, but if i understand correctly (and please correct me if i am wrong) back in antiquity swords were much rarer and expensive to come by than spears, so i imagined that the richer principes would be equiped with swords.The principes do have swords, but because they also have pila, they can't use them. At least for the Romans, swords do not seem to have been very rare, though perhaps many were of questionable quality. Even under the earlier Servian census system (Dion. Hal. 4.16) all soldiers of the 1st through 4th classes were required to arm themselves with spear and sword. This in spite of the fact that the 4th class (roughly the equivalent of the rorarii) had no body armor or helmet. And of course every single soldier in the later Polybian army had one.
would it not make more sense for the text to read "For it is not permitted for the Romani people, whom the gods wanted to rule over all peoples, to be in servitude"?This is just the translation of a passage from Cicero's Philippicae (6.19): "populum Romanum servire fas non est, quem di immortales omnibus gentibus imperare voluerunt." I don't have the name of the translator to hand.
I'll give you my standard reply to these previews:
:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop:
simply awesome
same as this guy.
Amazing!
I love those sabelli, but barefoot on the battlefield seems painful...
Very interesting the new government system ^^
BTW the triplex acies in the video is awesome, too bad the celts are getting pwned XD
Phalanx300
06-09-2010, 14:02
An great preview! The Camillan army looks great, always liked it more in EBI then the Polybian army. Especially the Triarii look great! Nice to read that Rorarrii isn't out.
Video looked impressive. Great when you see the manipular formation taking shape in the beginning. Does this mean though that each faction will have an intro?
BerkeleyBoi
06-09-2010, 18:58
Wow... that was awesome...
Brave Brave Sir Robin
06-09-2010, 19:43
Awesome
Another winter
Has suddenly now ended
The sun brightening
Ptolemaios
06-10-2010, 11:42
Too good to be true. I can´t wait to see more.
Reno Melitensis
06-10-2010, 19:19
It was a great preview for a great faction, and the video gorgeous, the music made my blood boil in my veins.
Cheers.
KLAssurbanipal
06-10-2010, 21:57
Excellent as always!!!! :D
antisocialmunky
06-11-2010, 01:54
Great Preview Guys!
I have an idea for the video. When you start the text on the video. Why not have the '100 years ago' in latin that then turns into English? That would be a ++ nice touch in my book :)
anubis88
06-11-2010, 08:26
Ante centum annos Galli Romam deluerunt.....
Heh...Does someone know how can I use the new avatars?
Tyrfingr
06-11-2010, 22:03
This....is....awesome!
http://www.theprimroseestate.com/blog/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/jizz-in-my-pants.gif
Mouzafphaerre
06-11-2010, 23:34
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Excellent work as always guys. I shared the preview on my Face' for the fellow classics students to truly read something on classics. ~;p
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Mulceber
06-12-2010, 00:32
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Excellent work as always guys. I shared the preview on my Face' for the fellow classics students to truly read something on classics. ~;p
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As did I - although I just posted a link to the video. Thank god for the EB team - I don't know what I'd do to get my classical warfare fix without them. -M
Megas Methuselah
06-12-2010, 07:00
Wow, I'm in love with the Sabelli units. It's great to see Italy getting a more varied regional roster, too. :yes:
Btw, I'm posting this long after I had a freak-out over my first view of the preview lol.
antisocialmunky
06-12-2010, 13:01
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Excellent work as always guys. I shared the preview on my Face' for the fellow classics students to truly read something on classics. ~;p
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Yeah, I sent this preview to someone who was researching Roman society.
Awesome preview! Can't wait for the release!
Sir Edward
06-13-2010, 07:12
Awesome preview. Really like the new setup for admin of provinces. Looks like it will be great for in depth Role Playing.
One question are the EB2 Hastati sabelli replacing the EB1 Hastati Samnitici & Pezoi Brettioi? Or will these units also be around? I got to say I always liked the shield design for the Hastati Samnitici
Keep up the good work. I've got my fingers crossed for some type of Christmas Present Release.
Andy1984
06-13-2010, 15:40
Another wonderful job. Thanks alot,
Andy
... are the EB2 Hastati sabelli replacing the EB1 Hastati Samnitici & Pezoi Brettioi?The Hastati Sabelli are the Hastati Samnitici. The unit has just been renamed to indicate that this type of warrior was found all over central and southern Italy, not just in Samnium. The Pezoi Brettioi will be replaced by another Sabellian unit.
CaesarAugustus
06-14-2010, 03:06
Is the "latter half of the game" meant to mean after the onset of the Marian reforms (potentially) in 172 BC?
Is the "latter half of the game" meant to mean after the onset of the Marian reforms (potentially) in 172 BC?Between 133 BC and 88 BC, the Roman Republic's political system changed dramatically. The army was first equipped by the state and then began to professionalize. The Senate failed to deal with this transition wisely, and began to lose the loyalty of the legionaries. Political violence increased, power began to accumulate in the hands of relatively few individuals, the Assembly was increasingly subject to manipulation, and the Senate no longer dictated policy. These events all occur within about 20 years of Marius' first consulship, but some of them have nothing to do with him.
This change in the Roman political system inaugurates the "latter half of the game". We plan to trigger changes in gameplay to simulate the change in the Roman political system of the late republic, but we will avoid attaching these to any fixed date.
G. Septimus
06-14-2010, 05:58
OH MY GOD :jawdrop:
I'ma use this sig
https://img27.imageshack.us/img27/238/signromani3.jpg
Megas Methuselah
06-15-2010, 05:25
Between 133 BC and 88 BC, the Roman Republic's political system changed dramatically. The army was first equipped by the state and then began to professionalize. The Senate failed to deal properly with this transition wisely, and began to lose the loyalty of the legionaries. Political violence increased, power began to accumulate in the hands of relatively few individuals, the Assembly was increasingly subject to manipulation, and the Senate no longer dictated policy. These events all occur within about 20 years of Marius' first consulship, but some of them have nothing to do with him.
This change in the Roman political system inaugurates the "latter half of the game". We plan to trigger changes in gameplay to simulate the change in the Roman political system of the late republic, but we will avoid attaching these to any fixed date.
I love you.
Phalanx300
06-15-2010, 09:48
Accenci and Rorarii role seem vague.
My best bet would be that the Rorarii trew their javelins from behind the Triarii (so having an part in battle before Triarii while also having Javelins raining on enemy like with Hastati and Principes). The Accenci, if unarmoured probably pushed the Triarii in the back, giving the Hoplite Phalanx more power. (Like the Thebans did against Spartans at Leuktra as well)
I've found the recent arguments against hoplite "Othismos" or shoving-match style warfare from Goldsworthy and such quite convincing. If they did not indeed fight like that Accensi must have had a different role.
Perhaps just being there and trying to look like they were part of the army was enough. Intimidation through appearing more numerous.
Oh, and the usual stuff: the preview was very interesting, the new units look very neat, the video was awesome. I'm trying not to anticipate the release too much since I know I have a while yet to wait, but threads like these certainly make that a tough challenge.
antisocialmunky
06-17-2010, 04:24
The Rorarii or Accenci may have been there to skirmish and buy time to the Triarii infront, everyone else in back-to-push formation that they were using at that time. You would have had to let the broken Hastati and Principes through gaps in the Triarii so they can reform behind them. All the while the Triarii would not have been in their phalanx formation yet. Preparations would require time so it may be likely that the Romans used a force to delay the pursuers and allow for the formation of the Triarii phalanx.
Phalanx300
06-18-2010, 13:58
And the Rorarii and Accenci doing so would be slauthered between an closed Triarii Phalanx and the enemy? :P
Reno Melitensis
06-18-2010, 23:19
The Triari where the last roman line, they where there to hold the enemy, if the Hastati and Principes routed giving them time to regroup and counterattack. So what was the purpose of having the Rorarii and Accensi behind the third line. There may be just a missed interpretetation of what was their role in battle. Being more lightly armed than the Hastati, the role of the Rorarii may have been that to offer support both to help the Triarii hold their line as Randal said or to throw their pila if they had any from behind. Or simply their role was that to guard the baggage and any fort the Romans constructed, they where not deployed for battle.
Cheers.
Phalanx300
06-19-2010, 14:52
Well first page said that Romans recorded them being used in battle. Its simply not clear how. It also said that a unit or Triarii, Rorarii and Accenci even had a special name. Meaning they probably worked together.
Kaeso Fabius Dorso
07-05-2010, 14:59
Now i know the reason why we are all alive...
ITS EB II :jumping::jumping::jumping:
AVE! :)
I have one question. In unit's decriptions there are some info about two types of unit. Roman and Latin. What are the differences beetwen this two kind of unit (hastati for example). Other skin, stats or something else ?
BTW. I love yours work :) Thanks alot!
anubis88
07-08-2010, 22:04
Other skin, different recruitment zones imho... I dunno about the stats... Not much difference probably...
In unit's decriptions there are some info about two types of unit. Roman and Latin. What are the differences beetwen this two kind of unit (hastati for example).
There's no difference at all. This same basic unit was raised from among Roman citizens and Latins.
antisocialmunky
07-12-2010, 04:31
Random question, what's the reasoning behind in the sideways grip for the Principes scutum? Aren't most Roman Scutum found with a 'bucket handle' grip like the Hastati have on their shields?
We haven't added the animations yet.
Lucius Verus
07-14-2010, 15:25
Nice preview!
Steforian
09-06-2010, 22:43
Indeed very nice! Hope you change the animations some, cause the 'everyone standing still except the few that are being attacked' animations of Vanilla M2TW was kinda sad.
L.C. SVLLA
09-19-2010, 05:03
ahhhhh........
i want to play as Romans in EB2 right NOW....even if it's still being worked on.
Leão magno
12-04-2010, 16:48
Sorry to bother about it, but do not forget that "tribal" units in italy adds flavor to the Carthaginian, Epirote and Gallic campaings, even the greeks would benefit from the EB I rooster, Lucanians, Brettioi, Saminiciti (both units) and campanian are very usefull and much desired for those who invade Italy, so please, preseve as many as possible!
Octavian I
01-14-2011, 19:07
This looks truly magnificent! I can't wait for the day that this mod is downloadable.
Populus Romanus
01-15-2011, 00:25
Will the Europa Barbarorum Team be including warriors of the Aequi, Volsci, and other related peoples? I know that they had been subjugated by this point, but they still existed as a distinctive culture, which would have meant arming themselves in the traditional manner. They had unique weopons and armor that set them apart from other Italic peoples, as is shown in the ancient Capestrano Warrior statue.
Will the Europa Barbarorum Team be including warriors of the Aequi, Volsci, and other related peoples?The Aequi were just not an important people during our time period. The Romans had confiscated much of the land in former Aequian territory and founded coloniae (such as Carseoli) on it. Many of the Volsci had already begun to Romanize. For instance, the people of Fundi and Formiae had become citizens without voting rights at the conclusion of the Latin war in 338 BC, and consequently served in the legions rather than in allied cohorts.
The most important non-Roman Italian peoples were the Oscan-speaking tribes related to the Samnites: the Samnites themselves, the Marsi, Marrucini, Vestini, Ferentani, Paeligni, Alfaterni, Campani, Apuli, Lucani, Bruttii, and others. They supplied all of the non-Roman Italian units in EB1. For EB2 we'll add at least one unit from an Italian people not represented in EB1.
Populus Romanus
01-15-2011, 07:54
The Aequi were just not an important people during our time period. The Romans had confiscated much of the land in former Aequian territory and founded coloniae (such as Carseoli) on it. Many of the Volsci had already begun to Romanize. For instance, the people of Fundi and Formiae had become citizens without voting rights at the conclusion of the Latin war in 338 BC, and consequently served in the legions rather than in allied cohorts.
The most important non-Roman Italian peoples were the Oscan-speaking tribes related to the Samnites: the Samnites themselves, the Marsi, Marrucini, Vestini, Ferentani, Paeligni, Alfaterni, Campani, Apuli, Lucani, Bruttii, and others. They supplied all of the non-Roman Italian units in EB1. For EB2 we'll add at least one unit from an Italian people not represented in EB1.
But were there not other people of Italia who were related to the Aequi and Volsci in fighting style who were not yet conquered? If I am not mistaken, the Marsi were one example.
But were there not other people of Italia who were related to the Aequi and Volsci in fighting style who were not yet conquered? If I am not mistaken, the Marsi were one example. The Marsi are generally considered a "Sabellic" tribe along with the Marrucini, Paeligni, and Frentani. The Volsci and Aequi belong to the "Umbrian" group with the Umbri and Hernici. I have seen claims that, unlike the other Sabellics, the Marsi spoke a highly Oscanized Umbrian dialect. I don't know how to evaluate those claims, but historically the Marsi usually acted in conjunction with the other Sabellics, and not with the Aequi or Volsci. Polybios grouped them with the Marrucini, Frentani, and Vestini when he enumerated the military strength of the Romans allies on the eve of the gallic invasion of 225 BC. He makes no mention of the Aequi or Volsci.
I don't have much to say about the fighting style of the Aequi and Volsci, but we can examine the equipment of the warrior of Capestrano you mentioned earlier. Aside from his pot helmet and neck guard (which probably don't belong the the EB time period anyway), he's equipped much like a typical Samnite or other Sabellian warrior.
Populus Romanus
02-24-2011, 19:28
How does one go about setting the avatars in the preview as your actual avatar? I looked through all the choices for avatars and could not find them, and I set it as my profile picture, but that doesn't do any good because nobody can see it.
Wow, this looks fantastic! I'm fairly new to M2TW and now I'm glad I never bothered to pick up RTW. Its all right here!
My question is how does the Roman army progress? Is it only through scripted "reforms" (ala "Marius reorganizes the legions" or whatever) or through gameplay? For instance, do you have to fight the Celtiberians to get access to the gladius to "tech up" to the Polybian legion of Punic War fame - similar to how the Apaches in Kingdoms have to fight a European faction to get access to horses and firearms? If this is covered elsewhere, sorry to bother, but could someone please provide a link.
Thanks for all the work going into the mod and looking forward to its release.
fomalhaut
03-20-2011, 15:48
Recruiting the locals that influenced early Roman warfare was something really fun in EB, especially when it comes to conquering Rome as another mediterannean power. The Bruttian and Samnite Infantry that can be hired also help for the realism of these people taking any advantage to help take out Rome. Bruttian Infantry is awesome!
Populus Romanus
03-20-2011, 18:26
Recruiting the locals that influenced early Roman warfare was something really fun in EB, especially when it comes to conquering Rome as another mediterannean power. The Bruttian and Samnite Infantry that can be hired also help for the realism of these people taking any advantage to help take out Rome. Bruttian Infantry is awesome!
I thought they said they were taking out the Pezoi Bettioi and replacing them with some other Sabellian unit.
Hernan Cortles
11-26-2011, 01:39
In EB 1 the cammilian soldiers have rectangular shields but in EB 2 there have oval shields?
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