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HoreTore
06-09-2010, 09:11
Being stuck with just one channel, I've been watching a lot of crap recently. One program I watched on sunday was "Inside the Danish court", a documentary on the danish royals. The episode was about Obama's visit to the IOC, and it reminded me of some thoughts I made back then that I never shared with you, namely that not getting the olympics wasn't a failure for Obama - in fact he never stood a chance to begin with.

Now, for those who can't remember, the four bids for the Olympics was Madrid, Chicago, Tokyo and the winner, Rio. Each city brought VIP's to speak for them, Rio had Lula and Havelange, Chigaco had Barack and Michelle, Madrid had Samaranch and Juan Carlos, and tokyo had a schoolgirl and their PM.

The media made the impression that Chigaco had brought out the big guns with Michelle and Barack Obama, and the media was full of articles about how Obama is going to ensure Chicago's bid easily, because he's such a good speaker and so charismatic, etc etc.

In reality, however, he didn't stand a chance. What everyone seemed to forget is just what kind of an organization the IOC is. For those of you who don't know, the IOC is made up of old reactionary white europeans, and have been led for two decades by the fascist Samaranch who took the concept of corruption to a whole new level. You think sending two black people into that bunch is going to make an impression? Hah! Thousand bucks say half the members were using all their energy to resist yelling "Get back to the cotton fields, you f :daisy: n :daisy: !!"

It wasn't Chicago who brought the big guns, it was Madrid - they knew who they were speaking to and brought an ageing fascist and a monarch. That, my friends, is how you impress 120 reactionary old white guys. That, and suitcases full of unmarked 100-dollar bills, of course... Despite having the worst application, Madrid remained until the final, where the IOC shockingly took to their senses and voted for Rio, the best bid, both practically and symbolically.

No, Obama didn't lose Chicago the olympics - they did it themselves when they decided to have him speak for them.

CountArach
06-09-2010, 10:09
Have you got any links to back up your assertion that they are all reactionary white males? I don't doubt that you may well be right, but I'm curious.

InsaneApache
06-09-2010, 10:30
I thought London bought won the Olympics? :inquisitive:

HoreTore
06-09-2010, 11:00
I thought London bought won the Olympics? :inquisitive:

Quite correct ~;)


Have you got any links to back up your assertion that they are all reactionary white males? I don't doubt that you may well be right, but I'm curious.

Nope. I realize that I may be a dying specie, but I get the majority of my news and commentary from newspapers.... The kind written on actual paper.

Fragony
06-09-2010, 11:20
'Dead tree' as we call it here, which one?

Rhyfelwyr
06-09-2010, 11:31
Are you sure they suddenly stopped being all corrupt just to let Rio get it? Why would they do that?

InsaneApache
06-09-2010, 11:34
Sometimes a cigar is just that. A cigar.

HoreTore
06-09-2010, 11:34
Are you sure they suddenly stopped being all corrupt just to let Rio get it? Why would they do that?

When did I say that?

I said they somehow made the best choice....not that it was done without bribery.

Rhyfelwyr
06-09-2010, 11:38
When did I say that?

I said they somehow made the best choice....not that it was done without bribery.

It's just that you were saying they were all old white reactionaries, and that that is why Spain's fascist representatives got through over the US's negro reps. But why would these same people then go on to give it to Rio (besides corruption, since everybody probably does it)? That would take quite a sudden change of heart...

Vladimir
06-09-2010, 12:37
Nope. I realize that I may be a dying specie, but I get the majority of my news and commentary from newspapers.... The kind written on actual paper.

Poor excuse. Most modern newspapers have an online version. There are always online sources.


It's just that you were saying they were all old white reactionaries, and that that is why Spain's fascist representatives got through over the US's negro reps. But why would these same people then go on to give it to Rio (besides corruption, since everybody probably does it)? That would take quite a sudden change of heart...

Didn't you hear? They "shockingly took to their senses."

HoreTore
06-09-2010, 19:35
It's just that you were saying they were all old white reactionaries, and that that is why Spain's fascist representatives got through over the US's negro reps. But why would these same people then go on to give it to Rio (besides corruption, since everybody probably does it)? That would take quite a sudden change of heart...

Brazil aint negro land, remember, it's iberian, like the fascist Samaranch.

But Madrids bid was really, really poor, especially when compared to Rio. Sending Juan Carlos and Samaranch compensated a lot and made them number two, but in the end it wasn't quite enough to make up for the fact that Madrid was the worst bid.


Poor excuse. Most modern newspapers have an online version. There are always online sources.

Then go fetch, I'm way too lazy.

Husar
06-09-2010, 23:01
Nope. I realize that I may be a dying specie, but I get the majority of my news and commentary from newspapers.... The kind written on actual paper.

Perhaps you should discuss this on actual paper then, or in the actual world, with actual people...
Because as far as I digitally see it, your argument is weak and falling apart. Doesn't mean there can't be any truth behind it but your argument is just full of your own judgement and I'm not all that keen to go with that.

Centurion1
06-10-2010, 04:44
Let me settle this? Me moms from chicago ok city. I sure as hell wouldn't want the olympics there though. Prefer rio or madrid for my "summer" olympics as well.

Newspaper name?

Kadagar_AV
06-10-2010, 05:11
Perhaps you should discuss this on actual paper then, or in the actual world, with actual people...
Because as far as I digitally see it, your argument is weak and falling apart. Doesn't mean there can't be any truth behind it but your argument is just full of your own judgement and I'm not all that keen to go with that.

What he said.

Megas Methuselah
06-10-2010, 05:34
...and tokyo had a schoolgirl and their PM.

That's kinda hawt.

Crazed Rabbit
06-10-2010, 06:10
This thread reminds me of Khafir Chobee (sp?).

CR

HoreTore
06-10-2010, 11:40
Perhaps you should discuss this on actual paper then, or in the actual world, with actual people...
Because as far as I digitally see it, your argument is weak and falling apart. Doesn't mean there can't be any truth behind it but your argument is just full of your own judgement and I'm not all that keen to go with that.

My argument is my own judgement. Why on earth would I need any more than that?

And why would I require you all to take me on my word? You honestly think I posted this because I wanted you all to go "Oh, HoreTore, you're so smart, please make me the mother of your children"? No, I posted it here hoping for one of you to tear my argument apart. Just like I always do.

Vladimir
06-10-2010, 12:30
My argument is my own judgement. Why on earth would I need any more than that?

And why would I require you all to take me on my word? You honestly think I posted this because I wanted you all to go "Oh, HoreTore, you're so smart, please make me the mother of your children"? No, I posted it here hoping for one of you to tear my argument apart. Just like I always do.

Why on earth would you need sources? You can't answer that question yourself.

Since that is the point of this thread, you've achieved your goal. :dancinglock:

Azathoth
06-10-2010, 13:07
I love the thread title though.