View Full Version : Small Mafia Game Pick your power [Concluded]
Sasaki Kojiro
06-20-2010, 18:33
Larger version of the setup run here previously:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126424-Pick-your-power-mini-mafia
3 mafia
14 townies
Before the game, each player sends in two numbers like this: (X,Y) with each being one of the numbers 1-11.
The X number closest to 1 that no one else picks gets to go first in the role draft. The Y number is for tiebreakers.
Check the link about for a full discussion of how it works. A bit confusing.
You can either send me one role, or two roles.
If you send me 1 role, you will get that role if no one above you on the draft list has taken it. If someone has, you will be vanilla. See the pyp mini game where Csar picked bulletproof at number 1 and the next three players all picked it too and ended up vanilla.
If you send me 2 roles, you will get the first if no one else below or above you has taken it, and the 2nd if no one above you has taken it.
So obviously, if you are high up you are more inclined to send just one role.
NEVERMIND too confusing, just send in one role choice.
Possible role list (subject to change because I have to think about the balance):
Each night you may target a player. If successful, you will get a result of town or mafia.
Every other night you may target a player. If successful, you will kill this player.
Each night you may target a player. If successful, you will prevent any and all kill attempts on that player. You may NOT target yourself.
You are bulletproof. You are immune to night kills.
Each night you may target a player. If successful, that targets night action(s) will be successful.
You are the bomb. If you are successfully killed at night you will explode killing all players that targeted you.
Each night you may target a player. If successful, that target will not be able to perform any night actions.
Each night you may target a player. If successful, you will see all players who targeted that player that night.
Each night you may target a player. If successful, you will see all players that player targeted that night.
Each night you may target a player. If successful, you will be given the role that player has.
You will be given a copy of the first power role eliminated (lynch or night action) in this game. If multiple are killed simultaneously random.org will be used to decide your role.
Once during the game, you may PM me to stop a lynch.
Each night you may send a box of twinkies to someone. They will recieve a box of twinkies.
If you are lynched you may post "Kill: X" (where X was on the wagon that lynched you). Both of you will then die at the end of that day.
Each night you may send me the name of one player. If that player is targeted for a kill action you will be killed instead. You may NOT target yourself.
If you are town and select this role, you will appear guilty upon investigation. If you are mafia, you will appear innocent upon investigation
During the day period, you may send me the name of a person before the lynch. If they are lynched their role will read as "???", and you use up your shot.
Your vote always counts for double.
If you are targeted by a night action, you can use it on following nights. If you've been targeted by multiple powers, you can pick which one to use
At any point during the daytime you may send me the name of a person you wish to bomb. You will both die
Any questions about the drafting process just ask or read the start of the previous game. Remember to send in your numbers when you sign up.
Signed up (14/17):
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Double A
Beskar
Romanic
Yaseikhaan
Pinman
ArpeggiateThis
Caesar
Death is yonder
Yaropolk
Johnhughthom
YLC
Andres
Pizza
Bolded have sent in their numbers.
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-20-2010, 18:41
In
I shouldn't but ohh well.
Double A
06-20-2010, 18:53
Hehehe twinkie vendors... in.
:laugh4: What a sick way to pick our powers. I'm in.
seireikhaan
06-20-2010, 21:02
:charge:
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-21-2010, 09:32
In, sounds like a bag of fun.
Caesar the IIIV
06-21-2010, 09:34
In, might be a bit rusty considering I haven't played a forum game in about 2 years....
Death is yonder
06-21-2010, 14:18
Sure. Why Not?
In :grin:
Yaropolk
06-21-2010, 18:47
I'm in
johnhughthom
06-21-2010, 18:48
Yup.
This set-up should make for a pretty chaotic game :2thumbsup:
In.
I want the suicide bomber role and I will use it to kill johnhughthom in round 1.
johnhughthom
06-22-2010, 19:58
I want the suicide bomber role and I will use it to kill johnhughthom in round 1.
:kiss:
Askthepizzaguy
06-23-2010, 09:47
I'll join to fill out the ranks.
IN
I didn't get a role pm, so I must be innocent!
in other words: :bump:
Sasaki Kojiro
06-25-2010, 21:25
I will start the game with 14. Same number of mafia, but I will add two masons.
Will post the draft order in a bit and pm the mafia + masons with their quicktopics. Send in your draft choice once you see your number.
Sasaki Kojiro
06-25-2010, 21:39
ATPG: (3,3)
Arpeggiate: (8,4)
Beskar: (1,1)
Andres: (1,2)
Yaropolk: (4,1)
Johnhugh: (4,2)
Romanic: (5,1)
pinman (5,2)
Caesar: (7,3)
YLC: (7,9)
Double A: (6,4)
CDF: (6,3)
Death is yonder (6,3)
Yaseikhaan: (no numbers sent)
You can either send me one role, or two roles.
If you send me 1 role, you will get that role if no one above you on the draft list has taken it. If someone has, you will be vanilla. See the pyp mini game where Csar picked bulletproof at number 1 and the next three players all picked it too and ended up vanilla.
If you send me 2 roles, you will get the first if no one else below or above you has taken it, and the 2nd if no one above you has taken it.
So obviously, if you are high up you are more inclined to send just one role.
NEVERMIND too confusing, just send in one role choice.
Sasaki Kojiro
06-25-2010, 21:43
If you didn't get a role pm you are a townie.
Curse you Andres, I went "1" because I thought no one else would be 'stupid' enough to go for it. :smash:
Looks like you thought the same as me. :beam:
(ie: you are not stupid)
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-25-2010, 21:56
Awwww yeaahhhh..
Gah, Pinman picked 5. :wall:
***
I have a question, I'll post it here for the benefit of everyone.
If you send me 2 roles, you will get the first if no one else below or above you has taken it, and the 2nd if no one above you has taken it.Do I get my first pick if someone else took it as a second pick?
Sasaki Kojiro
06-25-2010, 22:24
Gah, Pinman picked 5. :wall:
***
I have a question, I'll post it here for the benefit of everyone.
Do I get my first pick if someone else took it as a second pick?
hmm, I think the rules are vague right now.
-edit-
If you send one pick, you get it if no one above you has selected it with their single pick. If they have it on either of their double pick then you get it.
No that's wrong I think...
Screw the whole system, ONE PICK ONLY.
To clarify my question, would I get the AwesomeSkill in the following scenario?
Player 1 (someskill)
Player 2 (someskill, someskill)
Romanic (AwesomeSkill, someskill)
Player 3 (someskill, someskill)
Player 4 (someskill, AwesomeSkill)
Edit: *rofl*
Caesar the IIIV
06-26-2010, 04:32
So I do or don't have to pick a power considering I didn't get a PM?
Everyone sends a pm for the power.
Only mafia recieved pm's.
Askthepizzaguy
06-26-2010, 05:51
Everyone sends a pm for the power.
Only mafia recieved pm's.
Ah, a confession. Thank you for making this easier for me.
Anyone else want to tell me they are mafia?
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-27-2010, 22:38
When do we begin?
Sasaki Kojiro
06-28-2010, 00:09
Prodding a couple people who still need to pick a power
Wait, I swore I sent in my picks with my numbers...
civplayah
06-28-2010, 02:03
Sign me up.
Ah, a confession. Thank you for making this easier for me.
Anyone else want to tell me they are mafia?
I'd love to, but then I would be lying and they always told me lying is bad.
Which reminds me of this horrible song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RabmPacOU0&feature=related
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-28-2010, 12:26
Oh, and to whoever ends up being the Twinkie Vendor (I know one of you will): I want some Twinkies.
If I do not get my Twinkies, I'll be terribly upset.
Sasaki Kojiro
06-29-2010, 23:23
GAME HAS BEGUN
It is now day one, begin voting please.
Askthepizzaguy
06-30-2010, 03:44
My fellow Gameroomians, we have a crisis of unimaginable proportions. And I know who is behind it: the shapeshifter. The name changer. The man who would be king! Yes, I refer to the greatest scourge known to all mankind, the capo di tutti criminal, the master mafioso and maniacal manager of mischievous misery, the one and only GreaterMakaiSeireiShinseiYaseikhaan!
This villainous villain has duped us many times in the past, and is a cruel, foul, oppressive nemesis! I cite for you his vast experience in the field of scummery, in such games as the Kung Fu Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?84190-Kung-Fu-Mafia), Cosa Nuova II (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?82041-Cosa-Nuova-II-The-Cult-of-the-Cosa-Nuova), Mafia VIII (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?104162-Mafia-VIII-Return-of-the-Recommencement-of-the-Revenge-of-the-Mafia), The Prometheus (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=108954), Kung Fu Mafia II (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?107978-Kung-Fu-Mafia-II-%28Concluded%29), the Council of Villains (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=115505), the Beef Steak Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=97990), the Second Hand Car Salesman (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=102632), Futurama Dramarama Mafiarama (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=118486), among others! But I can prove he is the most dastardly of them all, for HE was THE mafia MASTERMIND during the so-called "The Fight for Inishmore (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=113773)", where he brought the town to its knees during a reign of terror unparalleled!
He lurks in the shadows, and eats away at us like a cancer, and is two-faced like a gemini, and yet he has more bull than a taurus! Also I foresee in my crystal ball that he is the mafia we seek, and I heard him say he hates the town and I also saw him eating a spicy meat-a-ball!
I rest my case. Vote: Yaseikhaan
I have an important information to reveal: I know from a legit source that ATPG got the role he was asking for! Yes, that's 100% verified by my spy network! :beam:
***
I like random votes for day 1.
vote: CDF
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-30-2010, 04:32
I like OMGUS votes day one Vote: Romanic
:laugh4:
Vote: Death is Yonder
I don't trust him, why he is so excited about death? He is a murdering scummyscummymcscumscumserscumscum?
Since there are 16 of us, I'm going to skip out on all this fun randomness, and just:
Vote: No Lynch :logic:
Yah, not doing that :laugh4:.
Unvote; Vote: YLC
seireikhaan
06-30-2010, 05:39
Vote: Pinman
Day 1 lynch, this is srz business.
Also I refute the grand Pizza's accusation with irrefutable proof- Bucky investigated me on night zero and found be to be super, duper, innocent. Bucky told me so himself. Also, Bucky's really shy, and only talks to me, so I'll let you know everything he finds out.
Vote:Yaseikhaan - you should be paying more attention to BZF :whip:
Askthepizzaguy
06-30-2010, 05:54
I have an important information to reveal: I know from a legit source that ATPG got the role he was asking for! Yes, that's 100% verified by my spy network! :beam:
I actually sat and puzzled why you would know this if you were not number two on the list.
I thought about it for way too long.
I should note that I got 4 hours of sleep today, and I'm not the sharpest cutter in the drawer at the moment. Please pardon my dumbness and laugh at it as you will.
Double A
06-30-2010, 06:19
vote: Andres
His silence proclaims his guilt!
I actually sat and puzzled why you would know this if you were not number two on the list.
I thought about it for way too long.
I should note that I got 4 hours of sleep today, and I'm not the sharpest cutter in the drawer at the moment. Please pardon my dumbness and laugh at it as you will.
:laugh4: You need more sleep, my friend!
Vote:Yaseikhaan - you should be paying more attention to BZF :whip:
You should be paying more attention to BMP. :whip:
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-30-2010, 11:09
I have an important information to reveal: I know from a legit source that ATPG got the role he was asking for! Yes, that's 100% verified by my spy network! :beam:
***
I like random votes for day 1.
vote: CDF
Interesting, very interesting.
Well, we can't have anybody *apart from me, of course* left out. Vote: Caesar
Vote : ArpeggiateThis
I had to copy/paste that name, because it's too difficult to spell :mean:
Death is yonder
06-30-2010, 11:57
Vote: Death is Yonder
I don't trust him, why he is so excited about death? He is a murdering scummyscummymcscumscumserscumscum?
Rightttttttttttttttttttttt and how would you know this if you weren't my scummy mc scummy partner? I'm disappointed in you Beskar :no:
Interesting, very interesting.
Well, we can't have anybody *apart from me, of course* left out. Vote: Caesar
Quite right!
Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS
*pokes microphone under your mouth*
So tell me Mr This, are you feeling the love? :beam:
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-30-2010, 12:28
Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS
*pokes microphone under your mouth*
So tell me Mr This, are you feeling the love? :beam:
Yes, although I'd argue that I'm feeling too much love right now. Please, I beg of you to cease the love and begin the hate...or whichever results in you changing your vote. :embarassed:
Oh, and call me Arpeg.
civplayah
06-30-2010, 18:24
Wait, I didn't get a PM about a role or anything. Does that mean I'm a townie, or did I miss sign ups?:dizzy2:
Askthepizzaguy
06-30-2010, 18:35
Wait, I didn't get a PM about a role or anything. Does that mean I'm a townie, or did I miss sign ups?:dizzy2:
I do think you missed sign-ups, but then again I am not Sasaki so I don't know if he put you in or not.
ArpeggiateTHIS: (2) Andres, Death is Yonder
Yaseikhaan: (2) Askthepizzaguy, YLC
Cultured Drizzt Fan: (1) Romanic
Romanic: (1) Cultured Drizzt Fan
Death is Yonder: (1) Beskar
YLC: (1) Pinman
Pinman: (1) Yaseikhaan
Andres: (1) Double A
Caesar: (1) ArpeggiateTHIS
* This tally does not reflect the possible Double Voter.
** The round ends in maybe three hours, and there is zero chance of us catching any mafia with the current vote standings. I urge people to begin changing their votes.
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-30-2010, 22:08
.
** The round ends in maybe three hours, and there is zero chance of us catching any mafia with the current vote standings. I urge people to begin changing their votes.
As you wish. Who voted for me? Ahh, Unvote; Vote: Andres.
At the same time, I'd also like you to think about the fact that a vote for an innocent such as myself is worse than no vote at all. Perhaps we should wait another round to see what the roles come up with.
unvote; vote: yaseikhaan
We can't lynch the 2nd pick on Day 1 without a good reason. Might as well lynch the last pick.
unvote; vote: yaseikhaan
We can't lynch the 2nd pick on Day 1 without a good reason. Might as well lynch the last pick.
Vote changing to save your scum buddy?
Unvote; Vote:ArpeggiateTHIS
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-30-2010, 23:32
Vote changing to save your scum buddy?
Unvote; Vote:ArpeggiateTHIS
What possible indication do you have that I am scum? This is ridiculous.
Askthepizzaguy
06-30-2010, 23:33
What possible indication do you have that I am scum? This is ridiculous.
unvote, vote: ArpeggiateTHIS
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-30-2010, 23:34
unvote, vote: ArpeggiateTHIS
*Pulls hair out*
What possible indication do you have that I'm scum?
EDIT: This is doubly ridiculous.
johnhughthom
06-30-2010, 23:35
*Pulls hair out*
What possible indication do you have that I'm scum?
Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS
Askthepizzaguy
06-30-2010, 23:36
unvote, vote: Yaseikhaan
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-30-2010, 23:38
Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS
Bandwagoner! We have our real scum right here. Geddim!
Unvote; Vote: johnhughtom
EDIT: Yay, Pizza loves me. Or at least barely tolerates my presence.
Askthepizzaguy
06-30-2010, 23:41
Why not Khaan? Why are you avoiding voting for Khaan?
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-30-2010, 23:45
Why not Khaan? Why are you avoiding voting for Khaan?
Unvote; Vote: Yaseikhaan
Sasaki, I do apologise for my indecision.
Askthepizzaguy
06-30-2010, 23:47
I think it is unlikely that either of you are guilty, but lynching Khaan carries less risk and also reveals more information, since I have nothing on Khaan yet
Pizza is awesome, he worked out the mafia are Romanic, Arpeg and Yaseikhaan already.
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-30-2010, 23:50
You're completely right, although I will be sorely disappointed if he turns out to be the twinkie vendor. I think whoever gets the twinkie vendor killed should lose the game, not that I make the rules.
Askthepizzaguy
06-30-2010, 23:58
You're completely right, although I will be sorely disappointed if he turns out to be the twinkie vendor. I think whoever gets the twinkie vendor killed should lose the game, not that I make the rules.
You're claiming to be the twinkie vendor?
ArpeggiateTHIS
07-01-2010, 00:01
You're claiming to be the twinkie vendor?
No, I was speculating that Yaseikhaan would probably be the twinkie vendor. Think about it, if he gets last pick, he'd probably try and choose something fun rather than go for a serious role that most people will have opted for.
Askthepizzaguy
07-01-2010, 00:03
So you're claiming not to be the twinkie vendor?
Interesting. It's all falling into place.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-01-2010, 00:06
Vote Count:
Arpeggiate: 5 (Andres, DIY, beskar, Johnhugh, Sasaki)
Khaan: 4 (pizza, YLC, Romanic, Arpeggiate)
cdf: (romanic)
romanic: (cdf)
DIY: (beskar)
YLC: (pinman)
Pinman: (yaseikhan)
Andres: (double A)
5 hours till deadline.
ArpeggiateTHIS
07-01-2010, 00:07
So you're claiming not to be the twinkie vendor?
Interesting. It's all falling into place.
I can safely say, with 100% certainty, that I am not the twinkie vendor.
Can you say the same thing? Can you, punk? :whip:
ArpeggiateTHIS
07-01-2010, 00:08
Vote Count:
Arpeggiate: 5 (Andres, DIY, beskar, Johnhugh, Sasaki)
Khaan: 4 (pizza, YLC, Romanic, Arpeggiate)
cdf: (romanic)
romanic: (cdf)
DIY: (beskar)
YLC: (pinman)
Pinman: (yaseikhan)
Andres: (double A)
5 hours till deadline.
What? Even the host is against me now?
Sasaki Kojiro
07-01-2010, 00:09
What? Even the host is against me now?
Sorry.
ArpeggiateTHIS
07-01-2010, 00:13
Sorry.
I'm guessing that one of my accusers has the doublevote ability?
EDIT: Before I go to bed, I'd like to say two things.
1. Town, you're making a horrendous mistake lynching me. Especially given that I had second role pick.
2. Governor, if you're out there, I'd call off this lynch.
Sleep tight, town. There won't be much sleep after I'm gone, heh.
Unvote; Vote: Arpeggiate.
Scummy language Sir.
civplayah
07-01-2010, 01:01
I signed up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128900-Pick-your-power&p=2514428&viewfull=1#post2514428)
johnhughthom
07-01-2010, 01:02
Sasaki, put the poor guy out of his misery...
If you really want to play you can have my slot, I've had a lot come up over the last few days and won't have a lot of time online. Up to the host.
Askthepizzaguy
07-01-2010, 01:04
You signed up I think two days after the sign ups were closed. :bow:
I will start the game with 14. Same number of mafia, but I will add two masons.
This is where Sasaki closed sign-ups I believe. Sorry, you'll catch the next one, or you could be a replacement player maybe. Ask Sasaki about that.
EDIT: All aboard the Khaan wagon!
civplayah
07-01-2010, 01:04
Oh, no I don't need to play. I don't want to take your slot away from you. If I signed up after all the slots were filled, that's fine.
EDIT: Oh, okay. I'll reserve then.
unvote; vote: Khaan
Arguments in thread already.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-01-2010, 01:05
I signed up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128900-Pick-your-power&p=2514428&viewfull=1#post2514428) (<link) but I didn't get a PM or anything. :cry:
That was after the chosen numbers had been posted unfortunately.
Vote Count:
Khaan: 6 (pizza, YLC, Romanic, Arpeggiate, beskar, Tshabalala)
Arpeggiate: 4 (Andres, DIY, Johnhugh, Pinman)
cdf: (romanic)
romanic: (cdf)
DIY: (beskar)
Pinman: (yaseikhan)
Andres: (double A)
Askthepizzaguy
07-01-2010, 01:11
I like chicken I like liver meow mix meow mix please de-liv-er.
edit: GREEN EGGS AND HAAAAAMMMMMMM
seireikhaan
07-01-2010, 01:41
Watch the spam.
Also watch me unflinchingly stare death in the face.
Askthepizzaguy
07-01-2010, 02:09
Watch the spam.
Also watch me unflinchingly stare death in the face.
It wasn't spam, it was green eggs and ham. Get it right. :whip:
Also, if you are so unflinching in the face of death, then you obviously have the suicide bomber role. Use it on.....
*checks player list*
Death is Yonder. Make big esplosions.
seireikhaan
07-01-2010, 02:18
It wasn't spam, it was green eggs and ham. Get it right. :whip:
Truthfully, I'm not sure there's much difference between the two. ~D
Also, if you are so unflinching in the face of death, then you obviously have the suicide bomber role. Use it on.....
*checks player list*
Death is Yonder. Make big esplosions.
Well, if I had that particular role, I think... I would use in on someone who defies the great, almighty bandwagon. Like myself, in this case. Maybe DiY. But probably myself.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-01-2010, 05:18
Yaseikhaan has been lynched. He was Vanilla, Mafia.
It is now Night, night will last for ~24 hours.
Askthepizzaguy
07-01-2010, 05:37
This is the second time I've first round voted you and you turned out to be mafia, Khaan.
I must have Khaan-dahar. :clown:
Askthepizzaguy inc. would like to apologize for the sheer stupidity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandahar) of the above mentioned joke. Our lawyers have told us that it is so bad it is not even a real joke, and must be stricken from the record for all time. Please accept our sincerest apologies and this fabulous three-year supply of cheese with our compliments.
Note to others, please protect Beskar, because I did the silly thing when I picked my role. Mmmm twinkies. :laugh4:
seireikhaan
07-01-2010, 07:55
Most excellent. Now nobody will suspect that Pizzaguy and Beskar are my partners. Well, my job is done.
ArpeggiateTHIS
07-01-2010, 08:24
I'm...I'm alive!
I guess I should congratulate you all for displaying a last minute show of common sense. Well done, town! :laugh4:
Note to others, please protect Beskar, because I did the silly thing when I picked my role. Mmmm twinkies. :laugh4:
You...you got twinkies?
Death is yonder
07-01-2010, 10:26
I'm...I'm alive!
I guess I should congratulate you all for displaying a last minute show of common sense. Well done, town! :laugh4:
You...you got twinkies?
Nasty role fisher :whip:
:clown:
It wasn't spam, it was green eggs and ham. Get it right. :whip:
Also, if you are so unflinching in the face of death, then you obviously have the suicide bomber role. Use it on.....
*checks player list*
Death is Yonder. Make big esplosions.
Yes please :yes:
I'd like some boom booms to spice up my meaningless existance :tongue:
Sasaki Kojiro
07-02-2010, 05:12
ArpeggiateTHIS has been killed. He was Town, Mason, Cop
It is now DAY, begin voting.
Askthepizzaguy
07-02-2010, 05:30
I would like everyone to nominate a candidate for the lynch today, without input from any special roles or sources. (remember, some of them could be mafia)
I'm going to wait until you make your selections to offer my opinion. If you don't offer an opinion I will probably vote for you.
See you in a bit.
Death is yonder
07-02-2010, 08:00
Beskar needs to die for his scummy mc scummy performance on day 1, he committed a most heinous crime of voting me. This needs to be expunged, now.
Beskar needs to die for his scummy mc scummy performance on day 1, he committed a most heinous crime of voting me. This needs to be expunged, now.
He voted 'khaan...
Vote : ATPG
Why should we have to talk first? So that you can pick on some poor guy and get him lynched? Afraid to stick your neck out first? Why so hesitant to take a stance here and now?
ArpeggiateTHIS
07-02-2010, 09:22
ArpeggiateTHIS has been killed. He was Town, Mason, Cop
It is now DAY, begin voting.
Dang, one of the better roles I've had on the Org, and it's been snatched away from me.
Oh, and how wrong you all were about me... :laugh4:
Death is yonder
07-02-2010, 09:49
Unvote: Beskar
Vote: Pinman
Yes... excellent.
I FoS Johnhughthom and Pinman to "jumping" to Khaan's defense when he was in the lead.
Vote: Pinman
Askthepizzaguy
07-02-2010, 16:28
Why should we have to talk first?
I talked first last time, with excellent results. Someone else deserves a chance for awesomeness.
So that you can pick on some poor guy and get him lynched?
Yes.
Afraid to stick your neck out first?
Not particularly. I'd rather people weigh in with their own opinions so they cannot just do the lazy thing which is waiting for some pro-town role to dictate what to do.
Why so hesitant to take a stance here and now?
Because I have a deep-seated fear of ever having to take a stand on anything, and I am very timid and inexperienced in these games. I am incapable of bluffing or lying convincingly, and so therefore I am reducing the number of my posts because I am afraid someone will call me out on my nervousness. I'm also not very talkative or confident in my own abilities, and I fear what might happen if I am wrong. Also, I am mafia.
Death is yonder
07-02-2010, 16:30
Because I have a deep-seated fear of ever having to take a stand on anything, and I am very timid and inexperienced in these games. I am incapable of bluffing or lying convincingly, and so therefore I am reducing the number of my posts because I am afraid someone will call me out on my nervousness. I'm also not very talkative or confident in my own abilities, and I fear what might happen if I am wrong. Also, I am mafia.
It looks like your incapability have betrayed you! We Win!
Unvote: Pinman
Vote: ATPG
Askthepizzaguy
07-02-2010, 16:34
It looks like your incapability have betrayed you! We Win!
Unvote: Pinman
Vote: ATPG
*marks down* Death...is...yonder....is....mafia. :stupido:
Thanks, Dee! :bow:
That reminds me, Beskar totally revealed he was mafia before the game too, since he knew the mafia had gotten their PMs before anyone else.
So if it is indeed you and Beskar, isn't this game basically over? Don't you wish to surrender to my awesomeness now?
Cultured Drizzt fan
07-02-2010, 16:37
Because I have a deep-seated fear of ever having to take a stand on anything, and I am very timid and inexperienced in these games. I am incapable of bluffing or lying convincingly, and so therefore I am reducing the number of my posts because I am afraid someone will call me out on my nervousness. I'm also not very talkative or confident in my own abilities, and I fear what might happen if I am wrong. Also, I am mafia.
:laugh4: :laugh4:
Vote: Death is Yonder, you know he's just joking!....... Probably.
People who lynched khaan can't be mafia right? And People who voted for ArpThis are more likely to be because they could have been trying to save khaan, so..
vote: Pinman
That reminds me, Beskar totally revealed he was mafia before the game too, since he knew the mafia had gotten their PMs before anyone else.
Actually, this would only be true, because I only bothered to read Sasaki's post where he said only mafia got role-pm's.
[Sasaki saying only mafia got pm's: 25/06/10 21:43] (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128900-Pick-your-power&p=2513523&viewfull=1#post2513523)
[Caesar asking about powers: 26/06/10 04:32] (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128900-Pick-your-power&p=2513650&viewfull=1#post2513650)
[Beskar telling him to send a pm and only mafia recieved: 26/06/10 05:45] (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128900-Pick-your-power&p=2513673&viewfull=1#post2513673)
Just because some one might actually end up believing your jokes.
Askthepizzaguy
07-02-2010, 16:45
People who lynched khaan can't be mafia right? And People who voted for ArpThis are more likely to be because they could have been trying to save khaan, so..
vote: Pinman
That doesn't necessarily follow, Romanic. Especially for those folks voting me because me and Khaan were obviously mafia and I got him killed on day one to prove how awesome I am, since no one would ever investigate me night one, especially not a tracker.
That doesn't necessarily follow, Romanic. Especially for those folks voting me because me and Khaan were obviously mafia and I got him killed on day one to prove how awesome I am, since no one would ever investigate me night one, especially not a tracker.
Is this the part where Khaan was telling the truth about both of us being his mafia partners? :O
Askthepizzaguy
07-02-2010, 16:52
Is this the part where Khaan was telling the truth about both of us being his mafia partners? :O
No, it's just me and Khaan. You see, because apparently I am crazy enough to try something like that, so of course I must always do that, even when it makes no sense to do so, and in a game where there are detectives, and even when it doesn't spare me from suspicion anymore because I have that reputation. It's a total win-win for me. It couldn't possibly go wrong.
Death is yonder
07-02-2010, 18:06
Vote: Death is Yonder, you know he's just joking!....... Probably.
And you think I'm serious? :clown:
Unvote: ATPG
Vote: CDf
Oh I'm dead serious alright :beam:
Thanks, Dee!
No problem Mr P, happy to return the favor anytime :laugh4:
Double A
07-02-2010, 18:42
You know what, he's probably some neutral role Sasaki threw into the game.
I got unlucky guys. It was a first round lynch after all.
Vote: Romanic. He kinda hit Yas when it became more likely that he would be lynched.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-03-2010, 02:29
Vote Count:
Pinman: 2 (Beskar, Jimmy Kimmel)
Pizza: (Andres)
Death is Yonder: (CDF)
CDF: (Death is Yonder)
Romanic: (Pinman)
Given that it's the weekend I'll probably let voting go until midday tomorrow.
Death is yonder
07-03-2010, 04:11
Right.
Back to ye olde suspicion.
Unvote: CDf
Vote: Pinman
Double A
07-03-2010, 05:13
I really just want to vote for DIY right now.
vote: DIY
For an inexplicable reason, that felt good.
Askthepizzaguy
07-03-2010, 07:26
Death is indeed yonder.
Vote: Death is Yonder
I encourage votes on him or Romanic.
Death is yonder
07-03-2010, 07:33
But all I wanted were my boom booms :embarassed:
You never fulfilled my dying wish to go out with a bang Mr P :embarassed:
There was suppose to be hit squads! And bomb men! Then I was suppose to be incinerated in an explosion visible from across the continent :wacko:
Askthepizzaguy
07-03-2010, 07:34
But all I wanted were my boom booms :embarassed:
You never fulfilled my dying wish to go out with a bang Mr P :embarassed:
There was suppose to be hit squads! And bomb men! Then I was suppose to be incinerated in an explosion visible from across the continent :wacko:
So you're not bothering to plead for your life, then?
Death is yonder
07-03-2010, 07:39
But why would I plead for my life? :thinking:
Askthepizzaguy
07-03-2010, 08:09
:laugh4: :laugh4:
Vote: Death is Yonder, you know he's just joking!....... Probably.
unvote, vote: Cultured Drizzt Fan
You look nervous. Is it the scars? Wanna know how I got em?
Death is yonder
07-03-2010, 08:14
Hmm maybe its time to cut the joke and be serious.
Unvote: Pinman
Vote: CDf
Gut feeling on him.
Plus he ignored the fact that I was obviously joking on my pizza vote because nobody is that stupid/ballsy to put their mafia buddy in the spotlight to get lynched on Day 1, not even pizzaguy
Askthepizzaguy
07-03-2010, 08:18
I take that as a challenge! The gauntlet has been thrown down!
*all of my future mafia partners cringe and say "can't I just be a vanilla townie instead?"
johnhughthom
07-03-2010, 08:33
Gah, can't anybody make a vote and stick with it. Glad I'm not doing the tally. I'll go with the last culprit Vote:DiY.
Double A
07-03-2010, 08:36
unvote, vote: Cultured Drizzt Fan
You look nervous. Is it the scars? Wanna know how I got em?
y so srs?
Gah, can't anybody make a vote and stick with it. Glad I'm not doing the tally. I'll go with the last culprit Vote:DiY.
No.
Unvote; Vote: DIY
Unofficial tally:
4 Death is yonder (AA, CDF, JHT, Pinman)
2 CDF (ATPG, DiY)
2 Pinman (Beskar, Romanic)
1 ATPG (Andres)
---
3 Not voting (Caesar, Yaro, YLC)
* Note: Obviously this tally does not include the double voter.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-03-2010, 17:15
Vote Count:
Death is yonder: 4 (Double A, CDF, JohnHughThom, Pinman)
CDF: 2 (Pizza, DiY)
Pinman: 2 (Beskar, Romanic)
Pizza: 1 (Andres)
Death is Yonder was Town, Vanilla
It is now Night. Orders in 24.
Death is yonder
07-03-2010, 18:00
:laugh4:
People who lynched khaan can't be mafia right? And People who voted for ArpThis are more likely to be because they could have been trying to save khaan, so..
vote: Pinman
It's not unusual for a mafioso to vote his scumbuddy. In fact, in a game where roles are revealed upon death, it's not a bad idea at all.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-05-2010, 15:48
Double A has been killed. He was Town, Watcher.
It is now day. Begin voting.
Alive (10):
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Beskar
Romanic
Pinman
Caesar
Yaropolk
Johnhughthom
YLC
Andres
Pizza
Askthepizzaguy
07-05-2010, 16:09
Vote: Andres
Well partner, it seems you're guilty after all. :cowboy:
Vote: Andres
Well partner, it seems you're guilty after all. :cowboy:
Really? How so? Explain.
Askthepizzaguy
07-05-2010, 16:39
Really? How so? Explain.
Andres-
voted BY double A, voted Arpeg, voted by Arpeg, voted for ATPG
Let's see. Two dead town-aligned power roles voted for you, and you voted for one of them. And you voted for me last round, which is another bad move.
Your vote has been off the mark so far, and the dead cry out for your blood. And I'm going to give it to them.
ArpeggiateTHIS
07-05-2010, 16:49
...and the dead cry out for your blood.
"Andresss.....Andreesssssss....all of your money blood....will be minnneeeee..."
Cultured Drizzt fan
07-05-2010, 17:44
Andres-
voted BY double A, voted Arpeg, voted by Arpeg, voted for ATPG
Let's see. Two dead town-aligned power roles voted for you, and you voted for one of them. And you voted for me last round, which is another bad move.
Your vote has been off the mark so far, and the dead cry out for your blood. And I'm going to give it to them.
could just be a coincidence, doesn't nessasarily make andres guilty. :tongue:
Askthepizzaguy
07-05-2010, 18:04
could just be a coincidence, doesn't nessasarily make andres guilty. :tongue:
:laugh4:
My number two suspect defends my number one suspect. And I am very pleased.
Andres-
voted BY double A, voted Arpeg, voted by Arpeg, voted for ATPG
Let's see. Two dead town-aligned power roles voted for you, and you voted for one of them. And you voted for me last round, which is another bad move.
Your vote has been off the mark so far, and the dead cry out for your blood. And I'm going to give it to them.
That's ridiculous reasoning and you know it.
If you go over the first round again, you'll notice that my vote on Arpeggiate was because of the difficulty of his username. You also know very well that nowadays I have less time to dedicate to the .Org, so I didn't come back that round. In retrospect, Arpeggiates' posts later in that round were scummy and if I would have come back, I would have sticked to my vote on him; in fact I would have pressed for his lynch, in the proces convincing the town to lynch the detective instead of a scumbag, proving that my instincts at finding people with an important role aren't rusty yet.
Your case against me is rubbish.
Vote : Romanic
There's absolutely zero reason to assume that all people who voted 'khaan are automatically innocent.
As I said previously: a) it's not unusual for a mafioso to vote his scumbuddy; certainly not in the first couple of rounds; b) in a game where roles are revealed upon death, it's not a bad idea to vote your partner at all.
Askthepizzaguy
07-05-2010, 21:13
That's ridiculous reasoning and you know it.
Then I must be a jester! :jester:
If you go over the first round again, you'll notice that my vote on Arpeggiate was because of the difficulty of his username. You also know very well that nowadays I have less time to dedicate to the .Org, so I didn't come back that round. In retrospect, Arpeggiates' posts later in that round were scummy and if I would have come back, I would have sticked to my vote on him; in fact I would have pressed for his lynch, in the proces convincing the town to lynch the detective instead of a scumbag, proving that my instincts at finding people with an important role aren't rusty yet.
So, your vote on him was both a meatball vote because of his bad name, and also a later-on-in-the-round you'd have considered him guilty ESP trick, thus proving you innocent. What would Andres say?
That's ridiculous reasoning and you know it.
:laugh4:
Your case against me is rubbish.
All cases are rubbish in mafia games, unless they involve some kind of detective result or process of elimination. So in lieu of that, I pick you for picking all the wrong people for your vote and also being voted for by townie power roles who got murdered.
My case against Khaan on round 1 was rubbish too, so it doesn't mean anything whether my case is "rubbish" or not. What matters is, are you guilty or not. I wish to find out.
As I said previously: a) it's not unusual for a mafioso to vote his scumbuddy; certainly not in the first couple of rounds; b) in a game where roles are revealed upon death, it's not a bad idea to vote your partner at all.
Sure, and the tracker and watcher and cop wouldn't immediately catch me that night, going from 3 to 1 mafiosi remaining. That's epic strategery right ther. :clown:
I thank you for thinking Khaan and I are that suicidal, but I am afraid you're off the mark again, in more ways than one. Another excellent vote.
BTW if I am so guilty, you should be voting for me.
I don't think you're guilty Pizza. You are wrong about me, that doesn't make you guilty.
My vote on Arpeg was not a meatball vote, it was a random round 1 nonsense vote. Also, your reading skills are lacking. What I said is that I did not come back that round because of RL, but if I would have came back, I would have sticked to my vote, because Arpeg's posts read as scummy. I would have been mistaken as revealed by the GM.
So, you wish to find out if I'm guilty or not by lynching me? At least you could try to build a decent case. My reasoning for voting Romanic is much more solid. He's assumption that all people who voted 'khaan are innocent doesn't make sense. Also, why is CDF your second suspect? Or is it too much to ask to post your case against him and will finding out by lynching him satify you?
I for one am not going to sit idle by while you lead the town to its' doom with that sort of strategy. I urge all people who bother to play to vote Romanic.
Askthepizzaguy
07-05-2010, 23:08
I don't think you're guilty Pizza. You are wrong about me, that doesn't make you guilty.
You seemed to find me guilty enough to vote for last round. Why the sudden change of heart?
My vote on Arpeg was not a meatball vote, it was a random round 1 nonsense vote. Also, your reading skills are lacking. What I said is that I did not come back that round because of RL, but if I would have came back, I would have sticked to my vote, because Arpeg's posts read as scummy. I would have been mistaken as revealed by the GM.
Meatball vote = random round 1 nonsense vote, as far as I know.
How does your reassuring me that you absolutely would have found Arpeg scummy if you had been online either (a) matter or (b) make you more or less guilty? If neither, then why are we discussing it? Nevermind don't answer that, let's move on.
So, you wish to find out if I'm guilty or not by lynching me? At least you could try to build a decent case.
Your bad votes and the doom of those who voted for you isn't a decent case after only two rounds of play?
Okay, you're entitled to your view. :shrug: I simply disagree. That's as substantive as you can GET without detective results. Also you're suddenly very serious.... why so srs? You normally react to accusation with little more than a laugh and a nod.
My reasoning for voting Romanic is much more solid. He's assumption that all people who voted 'khaan are innocent doesn't make sense. Also, why is CDF your second suspect? Or is it too much to ask to post your case against him and will finding out by lynching him satify you?
Reason for voting Romanic = he thinks the odds of person who helped destroy Khaan being innocent are better than 50%.
While that is a guess, and perhaps not a sound one, it doesn't make him guilty either. How is your case "more solid"? Subjective statements phrased absolutely aren't persuading me.
As for CDF, I will decline to post a case on him for now, I'm rather enjoying our pleasant exchange.
I for one am not going to sit idle by while you lead the town to its' doom with that sort of strategy. I urge all people who bother to play to vote Romanic.
If we followed your votes, you would have lead us to an even swifter doom. "I'm not going to sit idle while you lead the town to its doom" either... :tongue2:
I urge all people who bother to play to vote Andres.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/fighting0040.gif
I still think Johnhughtom and Pinman especially are being overlooked, since they tried to last minute save Khaan.
vote: Pinman
Scrap that vote, John is a better choice.
Unvote; Vote: Johnhughthom
John claimed to me being a Universal Back-Up. When he said this, I confronted about him being a back-up of Khaan, however, he told me he only back-up'd abilities, not roles and that he was an investigator.
I was just rechecking the powers list when I noticed what it said.
Universal Backup
You will be given a copy of the first power role eliminated (lynch or night action) in this game. If multiple are killed simultaneously random.org will be used to decide your role.
Therefore, John is a back-up of 'Khaan, therefore, he is a mafia.
There is alternative scenario too. Johnhughthom was a mafia anyway, when 'khaan got killed and he was a mafia, there wasn't any changes. Therefore, when ArgTHIS died, he became a mafia with investigation.
Askthepizzaguy
07-06-2010, 01:04
Yes, that tantalizing bit of fruit is on my radar. But I'd rather squeeze more results out of him so that if he is indeed a real, townie cop, then we have something for the trouble of his death.
A bit premature methinks, by at least one round, Beskar.
If he is mafia, great, but we would have lynched him anyway in a round or two. If not, I want those results.
johnhughthom
07-06-2010, 02:55
Yeah, great. Thanks Beskie.
Askthepizzaguy
07-06-2010, 05:26
I'd like to note that we have about 10 hours remaining and only three voters.
:whip:
I'd also like to note that some of you have been online and just aren't voting. That's a recipe for disappointment. Please do not disappoint. :whip:
You seemed to find me guilty enough to vote for last round. Why the sudden change of heart?
Because Romanic is a better candidate.
Meatball vote = random round 1 nonsense vote, as far as I know.
Ok.
How does your reassuring me that you absolutely would have found Arpeg scummy if you had been online either (a) matter or (b) make you more or less guilty? If neither, then why are we discussing it? Nevermind don't answer that, let's move on.
It doesn't. You questioned me about my behaviour, I explained.
Your bad votes and the doom of those who voted for you isn't a decent case after only two rounds of play?
So, I voted for innocents. This is mafia, it happens. Look back at all the games I played and you'll notice that most of the time, I voted for innocents. You can vote about everybody for that reason. So, your "case" against me is rubbish.
Okay, you're entitled to your view. :shrug: I simply disagree. That's as substantive as you can GET without detective results. Also you're suddenly very serious.... why so srs? You normally react to accusation with little more than a laugh and a nod.
Wrong. I laugh and nod when mafia. As town, I'm more serious. Also, I strongly disagree with the popular opinion that defending yourself vigorously against being lynched is a scumtell. It isn't. Getting lynched is bad for your team, regardless of your alignment. Defending yourself against a lynch is what is expected from every player.
Reason for voting Romanic = he thinks the odds of person who helped destroy Khaan being innocent are better than 50%.
That's not how he phrased it. And it doesn't make sense either.
While that is a guess, and perhaps not a sound one, it doesn't make him guilty either. How is your case "more solid"? Subjective statements phrased absolutely aren't persuading me.
Because 1) I'm innocent, so you are wrong; 2) I think it is a better case ~;p
As for CDF, I will decline to post a case on him for now, I'm rather enjoying our pleasant exchange.
Likewise :bow:
If we followed your votes, you would have lead us to an even swifter doom. "I'm not going to sit idle while you lead the town to its doom" either... :tongue2:
Fair enough. Also, since it's clear that we don't know what we are doing, it is important for other players to speak up.
Evidence of Pizza not knowing what he's doing:
I urge all people who bother to play to vote Andres.
Askthepizzaguy
07-06-2010, 09:12
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Romanic
Caesar
Yaropolk
Johnhughthom
YLC
Of these people, I am confident at least one is guilty. None are voting, so obviously the scum hasn't voted yet. They don't need to, either. With the current vote tally, there's no chance of being able to force a lynch of a guilty party. Someone has to change their vote or someone needs to vote.
I'm open to suggestions if people don't like the current candidates.
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Romanic
Caesar
Yaropolk
Johnhughthom
YLC
Of these people, I am confident at least one is guilty. And the scum hasn't voted yet. They don't need to, either. With the current vote tally, there's no chance of being able to force a lynch of a guilty party. Someone has to change their vote or someone needs to vote.
I'm open to suggestions if people don't like the current candidates.
Romanic is on your list of suspects...
Askthepizzaguy
07-06-2010, 09:15
Romanic is on your list of suspects...
He's on my list of people who have been silly enough not to vote.
I'm not voting for him.
He's on my list of people who have been silly enough not to vote.
I'm not voting for him.
Why not?
In the prevous round, you posted this:
Death is indeed yonder.
Vote: Death is Yonder
I encourage votes on him or Romanic.
Scrap that vote, John is a better choice.
Unvote; Vote: Johnhughthom
John claimed to me being a Universal Back-Up. When he said this, I confronted about him being a back-up of Khaan, however, he told me he only back-up'd abilities, not roles and that he was an investigator.
I was just rechecking the powers list when I noticed what it said.
Therefore, John is a back-up of 'Khaan, therefore, he is a mafia.
There is alternative scenario too. Johnhughthom was a mafia anyway, when 'khaan got killed and he was a mafia, there wasn't any changes. Therefore, when ArgTHIS died, he became a mafia with investigation.
There's also another point to consider: the rules don't say that mafia can't get certain roles. This means that the role of back-up can go to a mafioso. So, even if john is saying the truth, the fact that he got the detective role from Arpeg doesn't clear him at all. The back-up role is useful for mafia, so it's perfectly possible that the role went to a mafioso.
I also wonder why he would reveal his role in private?
johnhughthom
07-06-2010, 12:55
Wrong. I laugh and nod when mafia. As town, I'm more serious.
Yeah. Vote: Andres
Yeah. Vote: Andres
:inquisitive:
Cultured Drizzt fan
07-06-2010, 14:26
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Romanic
Caesar
Yaropolk
Johnhughthom
YLC
Of these people, I am confident at least one is guilty. None are voting, so obviously the scum hasn't voted yet. They don't need to, either. With the current vote tally, there's no chance of being able to force a lynch of a guilty party. Someone has to change their vote or someone needs to vote.
I'm open to suggestions if people don't like the current candidates.
Sorry. Tired and having too much fun listening to you talking about how guilty I am
Vote: Andres
Sorry. Tired and having too much fun listening to you talking about how guilty I am
Vote: Andres
That's just being lazy :thumbsdown:
You could at least read the thread instead of blindly following ATPG without putting some effort in.
Askthepizzaguy
07-06-2010, 16:01
That's just being lazy :thumbsdown:
You could at least read the thread instead of blindly following ATPG without putting some effort in.
For the record, who is your second choice for most likely to be guilty, after Romanic? If you turn up innocent I will put pressure on such a person.
Cultured Drizzt fan
07-06-2010, 16:25
That's just being lazy :thumbsdown:
You could at least read the thread instead of blindly following ATPG without putting some effort in.
You are being a bit frantic Andres, and I don't see any other pressing cases.
For the record, who is your second choice for most likely to be guilty, after Romanic? If you turn up innocent I will put pressure on such a person.
johnhughthom.
Beskar is wrong in his interpretation of the back-up role, imo, but johnhughthom revealing in private and claiming to have gotten the role of Cop bothers me. I also fail to see why him being the back-up should clear him.
EDIT: what does "frantic" mean?
It is what you accused me of in Netherworld when you was Bulldogging me. Being wishywashy, dancing around, trying to get attention off you, etc.
In a sense, Pizza is bulldogging you and you are cracking up under the pressure.
Askthepizzaguy
07-06-2010, 17:34
johnhughthom.
Beskar is wrong in his interpretation of the back-up role, imo, but johnhughthom revealing in private and claiming to have gotten the role of Cop bothers me. I also fail to see why him being the back-up should clear him.
Well, if people here want to play risky/potentially very badly, we could lynch Johnhughthom today. I agree there are two different ways he could be guilty; starting mafia or backup mafia. If he is our cop though, we've made a blunderous blunder of epic proportions. I would consider it because I am that type of player. The best way to live a couple of rounds is to claim cop.
I also get bad feelings about CDF. I do not know which is the best choice here. But we could settle it by.... voting. Whatever we do, we need to do it quick.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-06-2010, 17:50
Deadline 1 hour 10 minutes.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-06-2010, 19:10
As the day progresses, Andres becomes fed up with the persistent accusations of pizza. "Heineken Akbar" he shouts, and flings himself upon pizza, igniting the fuse as he does so. The explosion turns Andres into a red mist and the shrapmetal slices right through Pizza's vest.
Andres has died. He was Mafia, Suicide Bomber
Pizza has died. He was Town, Bulletproof
Andres: 4 (Pizza, Pinman, JohnHughthom, CDF)
JohnHughthom: 2 (Beskar, Le Chiffre)
Romanic: 1 (Andres)
JohnHughThom has been lynched. He was Town, Cop.
It is now night, orders in 24 hours please.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-06-2010, 19:14
Alive (7):
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Beskar
Romanic
Pinman
Caesar
Yaropolk
YLC
ROFL! That was an ending.
Askthepizzaguy
07-06-2010, 20:35
Okay, so that makes Khaan and Andres down. One more to go.
Sorry Andres, your vote for me was the thing that set me off. You're just the type to hide by voting for me. Some believe that I will ignore those who vote for me because mafia tend to avoid voting for me; but you're not typical mafia.
ArpeggiateTHIS
07-06-2010, 20:50
And with that, town has lost two of the best roles in the game.
Might I ask, has anybody received twinkies yet? I never got mine because of my untimely death, but if somebody could lay some at my grave then the ghost of Arpeg would be very pleased.
Askthepizzaguy
07-06-2010, 23:17
As the day progresses, Andres becomes fed up with the persistent accusations of pizza. "Heineken Akbar" he shouts, and flings himself upon pizza, igniting the fuse as he does so. The explosion turns Andres into a red mist and the shrapmetal slices right through Pizza's vest.
Andres has died. He was Mafia, Suicide Bomber
Pizza has died. He was Town, Bulletproof
Andres: 4 (Pizza, Pinman, JohnHughthom, CDF)
JohnHughthom: 2 (Beskar, Le Chiffre)
Romanic: 1 (Andres)
JohnHughThom has been lynched. He was Town, Cop.
It is now night, orders in 24 hours please.
This vote shows Beskar is most likely scum.
The vote for Khaan was to get the many, many investigators off of his back, because he believes they are always on his back. A distancing tactic, and a way to gain my trust, and gain information. He's quite familiar with this strategy, he's used it basically every time he's been mafia. Mafia Mongolica, for example. Getting a teammate to attack him in the Beefy game. And so on. He learns that I am bulletproof early on, and that is why I am not murdered in the first two nights. And that is also why Andres used his power against me, because he knew I was bulletproof. In his position as scum he knew for a fact JHT was not a scum cop, but a real one. His vote for John this round was for the sole purpose of having a double whammy.... a terrible lynch for the town, a dead cop, and the town bulletproof dead, all coordinated with Andres' suicide attack. It works too well, however. I don't believe that things worked out so conveniently for the mafia by accident alone. As much as I would like to claim that CDF is guilty and I had hounded all three of the scums since day one, I am not that clever or lucky. No, this was all a Xanatos Gambit, designed to send Beskar across the finish line in triumph.
No dice. You managed to pull one over on the town in Beefy's game with your tricks, but just like ArpeggiateTHIS reaching out from the grave, calling for Andres' blood, I too call out from the grave and demand that your head be separated from your body. That is my final wish.
He learns that I am bulletproof early on, and that is why I am not murdered in the first two nights.
Lie. You never claimed such to me, check your own chat logs.
In his position as scum he knew for a fact JHT was not a scum cop, but a real one. His vote for John this round was for the sole purpose of having a double whammy.... a terrible lynch for the town, a dead cop, and the town bulletproof dead, all coordinated with Andres' suicide attack.
Bad assumption including information I wasn't aware of. Who was it who said the Universal Backup would have became a mafia? That was you. But you forget all this information, and you try to tailor your case together by missing out vital information like you was yourself, convinced JHT was mafia, but since his death, you forget all that, attempt to make out I alone was involved.
I don't believe that things worked out so conveniently for the mafia by accident alone.
Yes, so convenient the mafia were first and third day lynched? You are grasping straws here, PizzaGuy. We are currently winning, only one scum left.
Interesting how you tailor and miss out vital information in attempts to make a case.
Askthepizzaguy
07-07-2010, 00:24
Lie. You never claimed such to me, check your own chat logs.
Bad assumption including information I wasn't aware of. Who was it who said the Universal Backup would have became a mafia? That was you. But you forget all this information, and you try to tailor your case together by missing out vital information like you was yourself, convinced JHT was mafia, but since his death, you forget all that, attempt to make out I alone was involved.
Yes, so convenient the mafia were first and third day lynched? You are grasping straws here, PizzaGuy. We are currently winning, only one scum left.
Interesting how you tailor and miss out vital information in attempts to make a case.
Already responded to all these "points" in private. Not worth wasting the energy to retype.
Already responded to all these "points" in private. Not worth wasting the energy to retype.
Yes, you accuse me of knowing everyones power in the game and this being a grand conspiracy. I appreciate the compliment that I am so skilled, but it is unfortunately far from the truth.
Askthepizzaguy
07-07-2010, 00:37
Yes, you accuse me of knowing everyones power in the game and this being a grand conspiracy. I appreciate the compliment that I am so skilled, but it is unfortunately far from the truth.
I'm not buying it/not arguing with you, either. Make your case to someone else besides me, because I am not going to change my mind.
Huh? What happened? I was a vanilla townie?
Askthepizzaguy
07-07-2010, 09:42
Huh? What happened? I was a vanilla townie?
This is my favorite side of Andres' personality in these games: After being revealed as mafia, he is a never-ending source of amusement. :tongue2:
New rule:
Your case is rubbish because I said so = Scum, every time.
I was NOT revealed as mafia. This was a setup, most likely the mafia got the "1-shot Janitor" role.
During the day period, you may send me the name of a person before the lynch. If they are lynched their alignment will read as "mafia" and if the target has a role, you can make him use it before he dies, and you use up your shot.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-07-2010, 19:30
Pinman has been killed. He was Town, Tracker
Caesar has been modkilled for inactivity. He was Town, Vanilla
YLC has been modkilled for inactivity. He was Town, Every other night Vig
Yaropolk has been modkilled for inactivity. He was Town, Vanilla
It is now day. Begin voting.
Alive:
Alive (3):
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Beskar
Romanic
Romanic is innocent in my opinion.
Lynch Beskar.
Lynch Beskar.
Is that the only thing you say? :tongue:
Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not mafia. Why would I be the critical choice in killing my "mafia partner" in round one when I could have clearly saved him without any hassle? Doesn't make sense.
Askthepizzaguy
07-07-2010, 21:07
Is that the only thing you say? :tongue:
Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not mafia. Why would I be the critical choice in killing my "mafia partner" in round one when I could have clearly saved him without any hassle? Doesn't make sense.
Fine, vote for CDF then. It's not like we have any other choice.
Yay inactive people. Inactive people rule. :wall:
Cultured Drizzt fan
07-07-2010, 21:28
Vote: Beskar
Pretty obvious.
Askthepizzaguy
07-07-2010, 21:43
We can't outvote Beskar I dont think. If that's the case then he's not guilty, and Romanic I strongly believe is innocent.
Could you vote CDF, Romanic?
Yaropolk
07-07-2010, 22:33
Pinman has been killed. He was Town, Tracker
Caesar has been modkilled for inactivity. He was Town, Vanilla
YLC has been modkilled for inactivity. He was Town, Every other night Vig
Yaropolk has been modkilled for inactivity. He was Town, Vanilla
It is now day. Begin voting.
Alive:
Alive (3):
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Beskar
Romanic
Bah, I was conspiring with Pinman behind the scenes!
vote: Cultured Drizzt fan
By request of Pizza.
Cultured Drizzt fan
07-08-2010, 00:35
Unvote: Beskar, Vote: CDF
Kill: Beskar
:beam:
Unvote: Beskar, Vote: CDF
Kill: Beskar
:beam:
:laugh4:
I will say that Yaropolk was talking to me behind the scenes, if that counts for anything.
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2010, 00:40
Unvote: Beskar, Vote: CDF
Kill: Beskar
:beam:
MWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA :evil: :evil: :evil:
Sasaki Kojiro
07-08-2010, 00:50
CDF has been lynched. He was Town, Vengeful
Beskar has been shot by CDF. He was Mafia, Double voter
Romanic survives. He was Town, Mason, Inverter
Town Wins!!
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2010, 00:53
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Awesome. I am SO GLAD we never scanned Romanic. Holy poop on a stick.
seireikhaan
07-08-2010, 00:55
So... that was a three or four hour long phase?
Also I'm killing pizza every time I'm mafia from now in the first night phase.
That was cheap, Sasaki. Romanic still never voted and I had ample time to change my vote, especially as you advertise one hour in advance of the deadline.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-08-2010, 00:58
mafia: khaan, beskar, andres
masons: arpeggiate, Romanic
Role choices:
Pizza--bulletproof
arpeggiate--cop
beskar--double voter
andres--suicide bomber
yaropolk--double vote--VANILLA
johnhugh--universal backup--COP
Romanic--inverter
pinman--tracker
Caesar--VANILLA
YLC--vig
Double A--watcher
CDF--vengeful
DIY--universal backup--VANILLA
khaan--vengeful--VANILLA
night 1:
pinman--track pizza
double A--watch pizza
Andres--kill arpeg
arpeg--investigate beskar
night 2:
pinman--track yaropolk
double A--watch JHT
jht--investigate pinman
andres--kill double A
night 3:
pinman--follow CDF
beskar--kill pinman
Mafia QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/RVAwQxgE2it
Masons QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/xsZrfVSBnmx
Town MVP: Pizza
For catching all the mafia...
Comments:
This game is a lot of fun to mod, watching all the numbers and role choices come in. Bad luck for the mafia day one which could have turned out nice for them if beskar had gotten more town cred for lynching khaan. The andres lynch turning to JohnHuhthom-cop-lynch was just too convenient though.
I improvised a bit for the last day, I figured beskar would be the lynch target but there were several townies who weren't showing up to vote. Including caesar who requested "super strength" as his power and never showed :p So I modkilled them. Town had to get beskar to vote CDF to win. Which they did.
Masons got hamstrung night one. Mafia's role choice ended up hurting them I think. They could have taken vig. Lots of good roles didn't get chosen though.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-08-2010, 01:07
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Awesome. I am SO GLAD we never scanned Romanic. Holy poop on a stick.
The mason claim would have saved him though if he got there in time.
So... that was a three or four hour long phase?
And three townies killed for you :D
Also I'm killing pizza every time I'm mafia from now in the first night phase.
Probably why he took bulletproof. If you'd had empowerer you could have got around it though.
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2010, 01:25
Probably why he took bulletproof. If you'd had empowerer you could have got around it though.
THAT is exactly why I took bulletproof. I can be a real stinker at times, and I need to be wearing a bulletproof vest at all times. :shifty:
I was NOT expecting to be the first choice (thought it would be nice, but I would have been happy with whatever), and being so high on the list and not being mafia, I knew that a night kill if I got anywhere near close to dangerous was inevitable. Only a bulletproof role could help. But empowerer, suicide bomber, or just plain old getting me lynched could have worked.
I am impressed Andres took the suicide bomber role just like he claimed. I forgot all about that, but if anyone would grab it he would. Or Khaan, frankly. I picture Khaan as a very dangerous unstable guy when he's playing mafia games. Probably not like that IRL but here, oh heck yeah.
Also: bleeping investigators up my butt on Night One ALL THE TIME!!!! AAAAARRRRGGGHHHH I JUST TOOK OUT A MAFIOSO LEAVE ME THE FLIP ALONE!!!!!
:laugh4:
Metagamers!!! All of you!!!
That was fun to watch. Kinda sorry you lost on short notice, Beskar, but it was bee-yoo-tiful to witness regardless. :) And you did make out ridiculously with the WOGs; short that you had no chance because even if you were genuine townie and the last mafia someone else, the town had to vote you today. You just can't let things like your vote for JHT slide by, or the mafia will do it all day long and twice on Sundays.
Fun game to watch, nice job all.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-08-2010, 01:38
Except arpeg...arpeg was going to catch beskar if he hadn't been killed. That would have been devestating for the mafia.
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2010, 02:01
Except arpeg...arpeg was going to catch beskar if he hadn't been killed. That would have been devestating for the mafia.
Mmm.... that was a good murder choice. Romanic's early reveal that he and arpeg were mason was premature. I immediately called him on it to reverse it, and thank the beer gods he did. But I think Khaan saw it....
See Khaan, it wasn't spam at all, it really WAS green eggs and ham. :7ninja: I am a ninja of nonsense. Even meaningless things can be deadly.
But Andres, :bigcry: I swear my case on you wasn't total rubbish; if those who vote for you end up murdered, and everyone you're voting for is someone I know is innocent, then you're either a townie that's off the mark a bit too much for my taste or a mafia responsible for those deaths, and trying to get rid of power roles by the lynch itself. Both are dangerous, one needs to die immediately. Out of two days worth of activity, that was seriously the best case one could come up with based on no data besides voting patterns and kill patterns...... IMHO :embarassed:
I'm misunderstood. :shame:
Double A
07-08-2010, 02:40
THAT is exactly why I took bulletproof. I can be a real stinker at times, and I need to be wearing a bulletproof vest at all times. :shifty:
I was NOT expecting to be the first choice (thought it would be nice, but I would have been happy with whatever), and being so high on the list and not being mafia, I knew that a night kill if I got anywhere near close to dangerous was inevitable. Only a bulletproof role could help. But empowerer, suicide bomber, or just plain old getting me lynched could have worked.
I am impressed Andres took the suicide bomber role just like he claimed. I forgot all about that, but if anyone would grab it he would. Or Khaan, frankly. I picture Khaan as a very dangerous unstable guy when he's playing mafia games. Probably not like that IRL but here, oh heck yeah.
Also: bleeping investigators up my butt on Night One ALL THE TIME!!!! AAAAARRRRGGGHHHH I JUST TOOK OUT A MAFIOSO LEAVE ME THE FLIP ALONE!!!!!
:laugh4:
Metagamers!!! All of you!!!
HEY! I was expecting the mafia to attack you on N1!
I was trying to be helpful :mean:
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2010, 02:42
HEY! I was expecting the mafia to attack you on N1!
I was trying to be helpful :mean:
That's true; you watching me is less about me and more about them. Withdrawn.
All for Pinman then. :whip: :tongue2:
Double A
07-08-2010, 02:51
I metagamed the metagamers :tongue:
That's true; you watching me is less about me and more about them. Withdrawn.
All for Pinman then. :whip: :tongue2:
Ironically enough, I wouldn`t have tracked you if you hadnt been so lucky on day 1. A bit useless though, ill admit.
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2010, 04:22
I'm still surprised anyone would think I'd lynch my own partner, day one, in a game this small with trackers and cops around. :inquisitive:
For the record, and just so everyone knows: I would never lynch my own mafia partner on day one, because there is no upside for me in particular. It buys me exactly zero credibility. If it didn't end up sparing Beskar completely from my suspicions, and I think my reputation is at least as ruthless than his, then it certainly won't spare me from yours. More likely I'd attempt to save my partner because my big suspicious butt is going to end up dead eventually, and I need someone from my team to be able to survive after I'm gone. Rarely, if ever, would I lynch my own partner at any time. What I MIGHT do is make a big show of defending someone else so that when I do die, you think they are guilty. That's more plausible.
You almost expect the mafia to vote for each other at this point. It's like an unwritten rule. Better is to fall into whichever category is the largest: those who didn't vote for your partner, those who didn't vote at all, or those who did vote for your partner. Whichever is the largest gives you the least differentiation from the group and is therefore the easiest to hide in. If there's 20 people voting for someone, chances are, you will find at least one mafia in there blending in. Granted, here you have the added bonus of it was actually Beskar's vote that finished his own partner and was the deciding vote, which is more unusual, but mafia still do that if they are exceedingly ruthless. It's not unheard of. (See: Sasaki when he's at mafiascum, or so I've heard :wink:) And you'll note Arpeg still scanned Beskar here, so.... yeah. It's expected of me that I would do that, and yet it is still so wrong. It spared me not from the scan, it spared Beskar not from the scan. We were both scanned up and down. It's not a tactic that should be expected to gain much in return, because over and over again you will find out it proves nothing, and history shows it isn't a reliable indicator at all, especially when the players involved aren't new.
I'm not saying it is a bad strategy.... it often works, even though the trick is getting older than dirt at this point. But I think it is wearing out its welcome and is being sniffed out more.
:laugh4:
Fun game :2thumbsup:
ArpeggiateTHIS
07-08-2010, 10:18
If only they hadn't killed me, eh?
Even so, just watching the game from the sidelines was hilarious, especially with an ending like that. Kudos, CDF and Pizza. And a "woop woop" for the townies.
Edit: So yeah, thanks Sasaki ~:cheers:
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2010, 10:55
Mmm, yes, thanks very much for organizing this game Sasaki. :bow:
A very close game, in spite of all our efforts. Inactives plus that still-brilliant suicide bombing/lynch cop move and then all the WOGs made this one a nail-biter.
Death is yonder
07-08-2010, 12:26
Good game Pizza, all three mafia under your belt :applause:
Thanks for organizing this game Sasaki :bow:
A very close game, in spite of all our efforts. Inactives plus that still-brilliant suicide bombing/lynch cop move and then all the WOGs made this one a nail-biter.
:yes:
Also, Beskar was practically revealing to the world that he was the double voter by being the only guy voting for someone and having 2 votes on said individual :tongue:
Blah, I missed the game completely. My apologies to all the players and to Sasaki for my inactivity. I moved to a new appartment and we just got the Internet connection, and I didn't bother much with getting on another connection in the last five days, as I was very busy.
Good job town, I wished I had helped. :2thumbsup:
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2010, 21:02
Blah, I missed the game completely. My apologies to all the players and to Sasaki for my inactivity. I moved to a new appartment and we just got the Internet connection, and I didn't bother much with getting on another connection in the last five days, as I was very busy.
Good job town, I wished I had helped. :2thumbsup:
Being active enough not to get WOG'ed is apparently all we needed.
See? Without you we would have lost outright.
I just finished running through the thread properly. Wow wow wow, we were only 3 left. My inactivity could have cost us the game :embarassed: Glad we didn't.
ArpTHIS and I were mason, as you know. He took cop, and I picked Inverter to deny it to the mafia and because I had contact with the cop, so nobody would scan me as mafia anyway. We would also know if one people picking ahead of me would have picked Inverter, and would have been able to react accordingly (i.e. start scanning people who picked their skills after me) Good idea or not? Any comment on that?
I'm still unsure about it and very surprised that no mafia bothered trying to get Inverter. Is it such a crappy skill?
The game concept, picking our power, and knowing who picks when, opens up a new level of strategy that I like a lot. I'd play in a similar game any day.
Thanks for hosting Sasaki, and my apologies about my inactivity. Very untypical of me, but real life denied me an easy internet access for 8 days :sad:
Askthepizzaguy
07-09-2010, 02:05
I just finished running through the thread properly. Wow wow wow, we were only 3 left. My inactivity could have cost us the game :embarassed: Glad we didn't.
ArpTHIS and I were mason, as you know. He took cop, and I picked Inverter to deny it to the mafia and because I had contact with the cop, so nobody would scan me as mafia anyway. We would also know if one people picking ahead of me would have picked Inverter, and would have been able to react accordingly (i.e. start scanning people who picked their skills after me) Good idea or not? Any comment on that?
IMO this was a very cunning move. It didn't work out, but it very well could have. As masons, I would have picked roleblocker and tracker. Roleblocker potentially blocks mafia murder, tracker potentially finds the mafia out murdering, and you perform those tasks in harmony with one another, preventing an anonymous kill from 2 suspects per night.
Unless the tracker gets murdered, this would be quite devastating.
johnhughthom
07-09-2010, 22:50
Nice game Sasaki, thanks for hosting.
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