Small Mafia Game The Trouble in Waiting [Concluded] [Archive]

seireikhaan

07-03-2010, 06:24

Askthepizzaguy

07-03-2010, 07:33

Mmm.... vanilla.

In

God Emperor

07-03-2010, 09:38

Hellu:turtle:
I am In

Renata

07-03-2010, 13:15

Meee.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-03-2010, 13:46

Meee toooo.

Captain Blackadder

07-03-2010, 15:18

in please

Skooma Addict

07-03-2010, 17:58

Khaaaaaan!! I'm in. 8D

Death is yonder

07-03-2010, 18:03

Please put me in as a replacement.

I will be more than willing to drop priority to another (if any) replacement especially if the call comes when its around my project deadlines :bow:

Askthepizzaguy

07-06-2010, 17:23

*Bump*

Have you done any active recruitment for this game, Khaan? Do you need a little assistance?

civplayah

07-06-2010, 21:00

I'll play.

seireikhaan

07-06-2010, 21:56

*Bump*

Have you done any active recruitment for this game, Khaan? Do you need a little assistance?
I suppose if you knew anyone else from cfc or twc, then I could use a bit of assistance on that front.

Askthepizzaguy

07-06-2010, 22:08

Those I have invited but declined:

Diamondeye,
Husar

Already invited by Khaan

Captain C,
CCRunner,
Centurion1,
Chaotix,
Choxorn,
Diamondeye,
Diana,
Frozen In Ice,
Greyblades,
Joooray,
mic1402,
Scienter,
Sevis,
Slashandburn,
split,
Winston Hughes,
Woad&Fangs

Invited:

Diana Abnoba
Pinman
Seon
Romanic
Miotas

I will update this post as I go.

Pinman

07-06-2010, 22:14

Sounds good - I'm IN.

Diana Abnoba

07-06-2010, 22:46

Sounds very interesting. I'm IN.

Frozen In Ice

07-06-2010, 23:25

I'll be in! Put me down as a replacement for now. I might be able to move up to a full player (if you still need one) after I reassess my my time availablity in a few days.

landlubber

07-06-2010, 23:45

Eh, why not? In.

woad&fangs

07-08-2010, 03:14

I'll be unavailable during the upcoming weekend. If that is acceptable I'm IN ~:flirt:

seireikhaan

07-08-2010, 07:44

Shouldn't be too problematic, woad.

C'mon, don't be shy folks! Just need a few more people!

Death is yonder

07-08-2010, 13:40

Khaan, if you need more people feel free to put me down as a full-time player.

Do be warned however, my activity will likely not be very high due to imminent deadlines spread out over a period of the coming weeks :bow:

If you are okay with that of course :yes:

Askthepizzaguy

07-08-2010, 20:39

Where is everyone? I know we have like between 40-60 regular players around here. Slow season?

Even with the influx of CFC'ers I am having difficulty finding people. Too many people are on the do not invite list.

Beskar

07-08-2010, 20:48

Being honest, I am not too interested in vanilla game, and I am pretty busy RL, and with my own game hosting soon. However, 'khaan is a good host and writes good write-ups and his game should continue.

In

Secura

07-08-2010, 20:49

I must be mad to fill up my schedule even more, but I don't want to see more games drop off the radar, so count me in.

woad&fangs

07-08-2010, 21:37

Where is everyone? I know we have like between 40-60 regular players around here. Slow season?

Summer is slow in the gameroom. Apparently some people have an affinity for this thing called sunlight......

Romanic

07-08-2010, 23:53

IN.

seireikhaan

07-09-2010, 00:32

Alright, I'll leave signups open for another 24 hours. Game will start then, regardless of more signups, although more are welcome.

Splitpersonality

07-09-2010, 01:29

IN if you please :D

Beskar

07-09-2010, 01:47

Don't you have full-numbers, 'khaan?

Frozen In Ice

07-09-2010, 03:50

I will be able to participate only minimally up until the 10th but then after that I will be able to fully participate.

seireikhaan

07-10-2010, 06:45

"So, what am I supposed to do exactly?" I asked the lady. "I mean, can't we just wait here in the main room? Surely whoever's responsible wouldn't attack while we're all here."

"Oh, dear John, how silly. Amanda must not have told you. John, here we must all still rest; its not quite like down on earth, but spirits don't have unlimited energy." She nodded to the open frames in the walls. "Those lead to everyone's quarters for when they want some privacy. Its also where they can enter transience. Transience is akin to sleep, except spirits don't have a choice in the matter. After a certain length of time, a spirit goes into transience involuntarily, if not done voluntarily before then."

"So, how long do we have before everyone goes into transience?" I asked her.

"Approximately thirty six hours. Until then, its up to you to help these good folk figure out who's being a troublemaker. Then you just hand the troublemaker over to me and we should be good!"

"Er.... right." I raised an eyebrow and turned to the people assembled in the middle of the room, to at least not have to face that abominably cheerful woman. "Well, you guys have ears, right! We need to figure out who made those people disappear. Anyone got any leads...?"

Day one has begun! You have 36 hours for this first lynch.

Alive: 17

ArepeggiateTHIS
Askthepizzaguy
Beskar
CaptainBlackadder
Civplayah
Death is Yonder
Diana Abnoba
God Emperor
Frozen in Ice
Landlubber
Pinman
Renata
Romanic
Secura
Skooma Addict
splitpersonality
woad&fang

Beskar

07-10-2010, 11:07

The random gods have decreed you should die, vote: landlubber .

God Emperor

07-10-2010, 11:26

Aaahh .. By the wrath of the most sacred heaven thee shall be disintegrated Secura!

...oh and Vote: CaptainBlackadder

Romanic

07-10-2010, 12:00

vote: Pinman

Captain Blackadder

07-10-2010, 12:22

Death to the Skooma by the gods of randomness

Vote Skooma Addict

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-10-2010, 12:33

Random votes never go down well. For that reason, I'm going to Vote: Abstain until a decent lead comes up.

Askthepizzaguy

07-10-2010, 13:41

Vote: Pinman

I simply cannot abide the fact that he is hogging all of our precious pins. For this, there can only be one possible consequence: Death by monkeys!

johnhughthom

07-10-2010, 13:57

The random gods have decreed you should die, vote: landlubber .

Boring!

Vote: Pinman

I simply cannot abide the fact that he is hogging all of our precious pins. For this, there can only be one possible consequence: Death by monkeys!

Now that is a first round vote.

Returns to lurking.

Death is yonder

07-10-2010, 14:11

Random votes never go down well. For that reason, I'm going to Vote: Abstain until a decent lead comes up.

Defiance of the random gods!

Bring the ceremonial sacrificial blade! And lots of wood and oil!

We will make an offering to appease their anger, quick, before they destroy us all!

Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

Secura

07-10-2010, 15:04

Aaahh .. By the wrath of the most sacred heaven thee shall be disintegrated Secura!

Are you going to explain why you said this?

Frozen In Ice

07-10-2010, 15:22

Trouble makers making people disappear? Vote: Death is yonder definately sounds like a troublemaker to me!

Beskar

07-10-2010, 15:29

Boring!

At least I can remember to vote. :wink:

God Emperor

07-10-2010, 16:05

@Secura, simply for a first message joke, if you found it offending I apologize

woad&fangs

07-10-2010, 16:09

Random Vote: Renata

I will be gone until late Sunday evening Central Standard Time. At which point I will return in a shower of fire and brimstone to destroy the evildoers!

Secura

07-10-2010, 16:10

@Secura, simply for a first message joke, if you found it offending I apologize

Not offensive, more a curious statement to make, that's all.

I'm going to vote: Pizza for this round, at any rate.

civplayah

07-10-2010, 17:33

vote: Romanic

landlubber

07-10-2010, 18:11

Vote:Diana Abnoba
No hard feelings.

Skooma Addict

07-10-2010, 18:53

As for my Vote, I asked the pizza guy and he told me a healthy helping of fire and brimstone would help to unthaw Frozen In Ice.

Splitpersonality

07-10-2010, 20:17

Vote: Woad&fang by the power of Grayskull Random.org

Pinman

07-10-2010, 20:24

Vote: JHT for approving of Pizza's vote on me. :sweatdrop:

Askthepizzaguy

07-10-2010, 20:34

As for my Vote, I asked the pizza guy and he told me a healthy helping of fire and brimstone would help to unthaw Frozen In Ice.

Remember to vote in proper format:

Vote: example

(Bolded of course.)

johnhughthom

07-10-2010, 20:38

At least I can remember to vote. :wink:

Vote: JHT for approving of Pizza's vote on me. :sweatdrop:

You two do realise I'm not in this game...

Renata

07-10-2010, 20:42

You two do realise I'm not in this game...

Probably not. I'll vote: Beskar on your behalf then.

Pinman

07-10-2010, 20:50

No, I didn't realize.

I'd better Unvote; Vote: God Emperor.... because.... umm.... your name is strange.

Askthepizzaguy

07-10-2010, 20:56

You two do realise I'm not in this game...

Crowning moment of awesome.

Romanic

07-10-2010, 22:50

unvote Pinman; vote: Diana

It's your turn to talk, everyone else did.

Skooma Addict

07-10-2010, 22:57

Remember to vote in proper format:

Vote: example

(Bolded of course.)

As you wish, my master.

Vote: Frozen In Ice

Beskar

07-10-2010, 23:43

Probably not. I'll vote: Beskar on your behalf then.

I am going to night kill you tonight for that. >:(

Askthepizzaguy

07-10-2010, 23:46

unvote Pinman; vote: Diana

It's your turn to talk, everyone else did.

unvote, vote: Romanic

Perhaps your vote for Pinman was a distancing tactic that has backfired. Let's find out.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-10-2010, 23:48

unvote, vote: Romanic

Perhaps your vote for Pinman was a distancing tactic that has backfired. Let's find out.

It's far too easy to gauge whether Romanic's innocent by looking at his mid-game posts. No investigation required - if he's bleating like a townie then he's vanilla. If he withdraws into himself, THEN set the dogs on him.

Beskar

07-10-2010, 23:52

It's far too easy to gauge whether Romanic's innocent by looking at his mid-game posts. No investigation required - if he's bleating like a townie then he's vanilla. If he withdraws into himself, THEN set the dogs on him.

fos: Romanic's scum buddy

Romanic

07-10-2010, 23:59

unvote, vote: Romanic

Perhaps your vote for Pinman was a distancing tactic that has backfired. Let's find out.

Are you annoyed that I am putting your sweetheart in the lead? :laugh4:

Very well, she isn't anymore.

unvote: Diana; vote: ATPG

Askthepizzaguy

07-11-2010, 00:23

edit: derp wrong thread.

It's far too easy to gauge whether Romanic's innocent by looking at his mid-game posts. No investigation required - if he's bleating like a townie then he's vanilla. If he withdraws into himself, THEN set the dogs on him.

What the heck are you even talking about?

Give examples.

Skooma Addict

07-11-2010, 00:25

Perhaps you're not an android after all.

Frozen In Ice

07-11-2010, 04:09

Yeah I didn't exactly unterstand ArpeggiateTHIS either.

Askthepizzaguy

07-11-2010, 04:37

Are you annoyed that I am putting your sweetheart in the lead? :laugh4:

I think my reaction to other people voting for Diana has been the same in almost every game: dead silence. She is just another player in this game. It would be like accusing me of caring if someone voted for Split or Beskar because they are friends of mine... that has no real bearing on the game.

But back to the game itself: Both you and Pinman seemed quite disconcerted when I placed a second vote on him. I'm very interested by this. Then you removed your vote. I see you gave an excuse for voting for someone besides Pinman, in that he hadn't posted yet but then he did. If that is your basis for the vote, I find it interesting that you're voting for me. Kinda panicky and all over the map for a first round, if I were to characterize it. While it is a long shot you and Pinman flinched over one additional vote this early in the game, it is also not impossible. It also fits in with the usual distancing strategy.

If you truly are innocent, then you will acknowledge that Pinman isn't your mafia partner. I'd like to see you place your vote where it was. Unless of course... that makes you uncomfortable somehow. :wink:

Romanic

07-11-2010, 04:59

Panicky, panicky... that's all you have for me these days? You're accusing me of being panicky in Zhou, and now here?

I'm not panicky, I'm returning you the favor of putting you ahead of the tally, after you did the same to me. How do you like it? :grin:

Changing my vote from Diana to you doesn't change the pîcture. I'm still tied at 2 with someone, except that this someone is now you, and not Diana. So where's the panic?

Let's roll the dices, I'm not moving my vote back to Pinman just because you request it, and imply that he could be my partner. That would be plain stupid of me as it would leave me alone ahead of the tally, which is btw:

2 Romanic (civplayah, ATPG)
2 ATPG (Secura, Romanic)
1 landlubber (Beskar)
1 Captain Blackadder (God Emperor)
1 Skooma Addict (Blackadder)
1 Arpeg (DiY)
1 DiY (Frozen in Ice)
1 Renata (W&F)
1 Diana (landlubber)
1 Frozen In Ice (Skooma)
1 woad&fangs (Split)
1 Beskar (Renata)
1 God Emperor (Pinman)
---
1 abstain (Arpeg)
1 not voting (Diana)

You started this, let's finish it manly! You and me, random.org decides who goes down! Are you scared?

Askthepizzaguy

07-11-2010, 05:11

You started this, let's finish it manly! You and me, random.org decides who goes down! Are you scared?

Mafia response: Fine by me, *crosses fingers*

Townie response: I'd be fine with you and me being lynch number 1 and 2. Either order is fine by me. <-----I pick this one.

Romanic

07-11-2010, 05:16

Mafia response: Fine by me, *crosses fingers*

Townie response: I'd be fine with you and me being lynch number 1 and 2. Either order is fine by me. <-----I pick this one.

Right, except that my answer is more like: I can't remove my vote without being the only one ahead of the tally. You're quoting the part that makes you look good.

100% losing a townie (me)
50% losing a townie (me) or 50% losing an unclear faction member (you) <-----I pick this one.

Askthepizzaguy

07-11-2010, 05:28

Are you honestly so afraid of having 2 little votes on you? You weren't so squeamish about that in other games. What's the dealio?

So, are we doing this thing or not? I can fling myself pointlessly toward a dumb lynch with the best of them. Better now than later, when the lynch actually has a reasonable chance of success.

*cracks neck, knuckles*

I love a good, mutually destructive brawl. :evilgrin: I'll see you in the burny place! :devil:

Romanic

07-11-2010, 05:33

Ah-ah! Now we're talking! Nothing like a good Russian roulette match! :grin:

Askthepizzaguy

07-11-2010, 05:35

Ah-ah! Now we're talking! Nothing like a good Russian roulette match! :grin:

No no nononononono..... you misunderstand. If you want my head, it will cost yours. I'll just keep repeating the call until I get what I want.

If you accept those conditions, I'll vote for myself. I won't leave it up to random.org.

If you accept, it is a 100% chance of your death and mine. Are you ready to die?

Pinman

07-11-2010, 05:39

Unvote; Vote: Romanic

Happy Pizza?

Romanic

07-11-2010, 05:51

No no nononononono..... you misunderstand. If you want my head, it will cost yours. I'll just keep repeating the call until I get what I want.

If you accept those conditions, I'll vote for myself. I won't leave it up to random.org.

If you accept, it is a 100% chance of your death and mine. Are you ready to die?

Hahaha, so now you are convinced enough that I am mafia to throw your life away? Again, you're wrong buddy.

As if I had a choice, lynch you then lynch me, but we both know that everyone else is king on this decision, we can't decide what they will do.

Either way, your friend Pinman came to your rescue, so we won't have to test your readiness to lynch yourself. :smug2:

Askthepizzaguy

07-11-2010, 05:56

Unvote; Vote: Romanic

Happy Pizza?

I have various unspeakable wounds that can never be healed, and my only release from the pain is relishing the warm, metallic elixir that is the blood of mafiosi. I won't be happy until they are all dead.... EXTERMINATED!!!! and then, when they die, a new game starts and they come back! The cycle never ends!

AND THERE ARE BUGS ALL OVER ME THAT WON'T GO AWAY!!! :mad:

But overall yes, I'm quite happy. Why do you ask?

Can't sleep. Clown will eat me.

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/EPYC/clown1.jpg

seireikhaan

07-11-2010, 06:13

12 hours left.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-11-2010, 12:42

What the heck are you even talking about?

Give examples.

Sorry, what I was trying to say is that Romanic easily gives himself away if he's vanilla rather than mafia. Examples? Every game I've played with him where he's been town (you were in Beefdom, weren't you Pizza?) he's always taken the crystal-clear, honest townie strategy. I'd have liked to see whether this pans out during this game.

Either way, that'll teach me to go on the Org after having a few drinks, heh.

EDIT:

fos: Romanic's scum buddy

If you really mean this (and I hope it was just a passing comment), I'm more than happy to Unvote; Vote: Romanic rather than go with my previous decision to abstain.

seireikhaan

07-11-2010, 22:17

Sorry for the slight delay, round is over. Writeup posted soon.

seireikhaan

07-11-2010, 23:15

Diana Abnoba

07-12-2010, 10:51

Sorry Khaan, I was working all weekend, wasn't on line, just got home. It won't happen again (the not voting). :bow:

seireikhaan

07-13-2010, 00:39

Apologies, due to an error in communication, I'm giving another 12 hours to the night phase.

Romanic

07-13-2010, 04:17

Will my alignment be revealed at any time in the game?

Askthepizzaguy

07-13-2010, 04:20

Will my alignment be revealed at any time in the game?

Lynching you was way too easy. IMO you were innocent, unless Khaan says otherwise.

Beskar

07-13-2010, 07:03

Khaan doesn't do reveals. I got penalised because of it in another game as I claimed investigator and got a mafia lynched. Then the town came after my head.

Renata

07-13-2010, 13:53

That's hilarious.

seireikhaan

07-13-2010, 13:55

For this game, there won't be postmortem reveals until game is over. Also, writeup is started.

seireikhaan

07-13-2010, 14:26

Skooma Addict trudged back to his privacy quarters. He was still in shock- how was all this even possible? I mean, wasn't everyone already dead? Did this make Romanic double dead? Super dead? Before he could get a headache, he plopped himself down on his bed, which sat next to his mini-fridge. He gazed at the device for a couple seconds, and made up his mind. If he was going to be a goner, he was going to at least enjoy himself. He popped the door open, and grabbed an ornate opaque, faint purple bottle that was maybe six inches tall. He squeezed the top off, and started downing its contents. "Ah.... yeah, that's the stuff...." He leaned back against the marble wall and closed his eyes to ready for transience. He heard a faint pop, and cracked open his right eye. Someone stood before him, a curved knife raised in their right hand. The knife was dark as could be. Skooma startled backwards, but only made himself more erect against the wall. The knife plunged into his gut. Skooma gasped in pain he hadn't felt in years, and watched in astonishment as his hands began to disintegrate, creeping up his arms, into his shoulders....

Meanwhile, Frozen in Ice had prepared himself a simple dinner of a few slices of bread with honey as a spread. He sat on the edge of his bed, contemplating recent events. He didn't envy the newcomer, John. Arriving just in time for what seemed to be a besieged castle. Hopefully things would settle back to their old, simple ways. He laid down, staring at the pristine ceiling. In a flash, someone materialized above him, and collapsed upon him. Frozen in Ice immediately writhed to get the person off him, when a sharp pain erupted in his left shoulder. The intruder's knife had cut through, rending the arm limp. The intruder scrambled off its target, and with a pop, was gone. Frozen in Ice lay gasping in pain. And then, as suddenly as the intruder, the pain was gone. He sighed in relief, then screamed in horror when the arm simply disappeared. His body dissolved further, eating into his side, up to his neck, down to his waist, eventually silencing the scream for good.

"Welcome back, John!" It took all my willpower not to glare at the woman as I entered from what I guess is my bedroom from now on. "Did transience treat you well?" She queried, while tilting her head to the side. "I hope it was at least better than poor Skooma Addict and Frozen in Ice. It seems the poor lads have gone missing."

"Wait, two more are gone?" I asked. "So yesterday was a waste of our time?!"

"Oh, I don't know about that. We'll just find out in due time, won't we? Either way, it looks like you've got more work to do!" She motioned with a hand to the crowd which had reconvened. I sighed and grimaced.

"Alright, folks... we've got to make this count!"

DAY TWO HAS BEGUN! THIS PHASE HAS 24 HOURS!

Alive: 14

ArepeggiateTHIS
Askthepizzaguy
Beskar
CaptainBlackadder
Civplayah
Death is Yonder
Diana Abnoba
God Emperor
Landlubber
Pinman
Renata
Secura
splitpersonality
woad&fang

Lynched: 1

Romanic (D1)

Slain: 2

Frozen in Ice (N1)
Skooma Addict (N1)

Renata

07-13-2010, 16:18

vote: Pinman

Romanic wasn't interested in responding to Pizza's request for a vote on Pinman, but Pinman did respond, in reverse.

Skooma Addict

07-13-2010, 17:51

In a lazy boy with a bottle of skooma. It's the way I would have wanted to go.

woad&fangs

07-13-2010, 18:08

vote: Beskar
Admit your guilt!

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-13-2010, 18:29

vote: Beskar
Admit your guilt!

Do you have any reasoning behind this? Vote: woad&fangs

Askthepizzaguy

07-13-2010, 19:15

vote: Pinman

Romanic wasn't interested in responding to Pizza's request for a vote on Pinman, but Pinman did respond, in reverse.

Agreed. That showed an over-eagerness to comply with what was actually a silly request, which is typically the mark of mafia.

vote: Pinman

woad&fangs

07-13-2010, 20:02

Do you have any reasoning behind this? Vote: woad&fangs

I had absolutely no reason at all for my previous vote which I thought was very obvious. Perhaps I fingered your scum buddy? My vote stands.

Beskar

07-13-2010, 20:34

Perhaps I fingered your scum buddy?

I don't recommend using that as a chat-up line.

Vote: Pinman

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-13-2010, 23:26

I don't recommend using that as a chat-up line.

Heh, that's the first time somebody on the Org has made me laugh.

Well woad, my vote still stands.

Pinman

07-13-2010, 23:57

How to defend oneself in a vanilla mafia game..... I really haven't got a clue. I voted for the person who I thought was most likely to be scum. Thats all i've got to say - lynch away if you need too.

I personally will be voting for ArpegiateTHIS because I think that his vote is strange. It looks like hes simply taking up an easy method of appearing useful.

Vote: ArpegiateTHIS

PS: If you lynch me you'll be lynching the super secret cop role. You wouldn't want that - would you?:laugh4:

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-14-2010, 00:01

How to defend oneself in a vanilla mafia game..... I really haven't got a clue. I voted for the person who I thought was most likely to be scum. Thats all i've got to say - lynch away if you need too.

I personally will be voting for ArpegiateTHIS because I think that his vote is strange. It looks like hes simply taking up an easy method of appearing useful.

Vote: ArpegiateTHIS

How about the fact that I voted early and picked the most appropriate perp based on what I had seen? Your vote on me seems simply like a defence vote.

You're not going to get away with it, anyway. Unvote; Vote: Pinman

Besides, I was only using the exact same reason for voting that you have just used.

Pinman

07-14-2010, 00:10

Your right, it was a defence vote, as I'm trying to stay alive. Your vote however, is an even greater sin. Your vote is an OMGUS vote.:yes:

Askthepizzaguy

07-14-2010, 01:55

Has anyone found woad's missing fang yet?

woad&fangs

07-14-2010, 02:26

I don't think I have ever made it through an entire mafia game without someone misspelling my name.

seireikhaan

07-14-2010, 03:10

:whip:

This won't be a very good game if activity doesn't pick up a bit.

Askthepizzaguy

07-14-2010, 03:45

I believe Diana will be voting before she goes to bed.

Diana Abnoba

07-14-2010, 05:06

Let's spread the wealth (votes) around a little. *Drum roll please* And the winner is *pulls name from hat*

Vote: Landlubber

Splitpersonality

07-14-2010, 05:09

Vote: CivPlayah

Speak up

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-14-2010, 09:36

Your right, it was a defence vote, as I'm trying to stay alive. Your vote however, is an even greater sin. Your vote is an OMGUS vote.:yes:

What's worse is that you're completely right. :embarassed:

It still stands though.

Romanic

07-14-2010, 10:03

Tsk tsk. I don't like the reasons behind the current lynch votes.

Before Pinman moved his vote, the tally was :

2 Romanic
2 ATPG
1 (lot of other players)
0 Pinman

Why is it suspicious that Pinman move his vote to me and break the tie? As a mafia, he would be happy with 2 townies ahead, why would he do something about it instead of staying cozy in the dark?

Romanic wasn't interested in responding to Pizza's request for a vote on Pinman, but Pinman did respond, in reverse.
From ^Renata...

It does not hold water. Pinman had 0 vote on him, even if I moved back my vote on him, he was in no danger of being lynched.

The only argument I see about Pinman being mafia and moving his vote to me is that he would be protecting his partner, ATPG, but in this round, ATPG slammed the 2nd vote on Pinman, so they're probably not partners.

Pinman is not mafia, forget it.

Instead, you should be questioning Beskar for being 3rd on the Pinman bandwagon after the tally was

2 Pinman
1 Beskar

...while making a joke instead of giving his opinion on why Pinman should be lynched (see post #92). Read his posts so far, he doesn't commit to anything. There's no substance at all, the whole thing scream of prudence and lying low.

Secura

07-14-2010, 12:33

vote: Pizza

I've just got a nagging feeling about him.

Renata

07-14-2010, 13:09

Romanic, you missed my point. The point was that Pizza called out you as possibly being scum with Pinman, and asked you to vote for him to prove you weren't. You didn't respond to that; IMO a point in your favor. But Pinman did respond -- "oh no I'm not scummy Romanic's partner, never that". As you just said, there was nothing (obvious) on the line for him, so why the jumpy vote change? He says now he just thought you were scummy, but that's not what he said at the time. Who he might be mafia with doesn't enter into it.

Instead, you should be questioning Beskar for being 3rd on the Pinman bandwagon after the tally was

2 Pinman
1 Beskar

...while making a joke instead of giving his opinion on why Pinman should be lynched (see post #92). Read his posts so far, he doesn't commit to anything. There's no substance at all, the whole thing scream of prudence and lying low.

That's typical Beskar, but the vote timing is worth noting.

Pinman

07-14-2010, 13:30

The "happy Pizza" was my weak attempt at a cute gimmick, which as I said in my initial post this round, I half expected to get me killed.Really what I was trying to do was move my vote into a more useful position.

Renata

07-14-2010, 13:38

I know what you said this round.

Death is yonder

07-14-2010, 14:08

Vote: Pinman

Because it would be pointless to vote anyone else with the deadline so soon.

Additionally, with my impending deadlines and lack of desire to burn the midnight oil, a lazy vote is in order (yes i admit it).

Apologies.

Secura

07-14-2010, 14:39

Read his posts so far, he doesn't commit to anything. There's no substance at all, the whole thing scream of prudence and lying low.

That's how Beskar plays now, it's his way of dealing with metagamers.

civplayah

07-14-2010, 16:19

Vote: CivPlayah

Speak up

Checking in.:yes:

vote: Secura

Askthepizzaguy

07-14-2010, 16:50

vote: Pizza

I've just got a nagging feeling about him.

No you don't.

You voted for me right off the bat, on the first round. There was nothing to "have a feeling" about.

This doesn't pass the sniff test for me. Why lie in a vanilla game unless you're mafia.

unvote, vote: Secura

Askthepizzaguy

07-14-2010, 16:51

Not offensive, more a curious statement to make, that's all.

I'm going to vote: Pizza for this round, at any rate.

See? This is based on nothing. Nagging feeling my crust.

Pinman

07-14-2010, 16:52

Unvote; Vote: Secura

Secura

07-14-2010, 19:03

To be quite honest, there's no point in me trying to argue the toss about this, as I don't have neither the time (this is my only day off work for the next nine days) nor even half the capability as a player to out-argue Pizza; if y'all wish to waste a lynch on a vanilla townie, I'm not going to stop you.

Askthepizzaguy

07-14-2010, 19:07

What's worse is that you're completely right. :embarassed:

It still stands though.

Okay.

Too apologetic for me. Strange shift in tone between this and the post before it.

unvote, vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

Pinman

07-14-2010, 19:12

Unvote; Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

Trying to save oneself never used to require these kinds of voting gymnastics. I miss the good old days.

Askthepizzaguy

07-14-2010, 19:12

Unvote; Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

Trying to save oneself never used to require these kinds of voting gymnastics. I miss the good old days.

Oh be quiet. I could always just vote for you. :tongue2:

Whine whine whine. :clown:

woad&fangs

07-14-2010, 19:20

unvote: Beskar; Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

landlubber

07-14-2010, 19:23

Vote:Pinman
Something about him doesn't seem quite right.

Pinman

07-14-2010, 19:25

Its the name isn't it - it scares everybody off.:bigcry:

Askthepizzaguy

07-14-2010, 19:26

Vote:Pinman
Something about him doesn't seem quite right.

Interesting timing. You could be attempting to spare Arpeg.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-14-2010, 20:39

What a pile of wasted votes.

Pizza, my "tone" only changed between posts because I came home drunk last night and came on here. This morning I woke up worse for wear. I hereby apologise for having changing moods, and *GASP!* revealing these subtle changes in posts.

So who was the last man on the bandwagon? Unvote; Vote: woad&fangs

Askthepizzaguy

07-14-2010, 21:26

Surly you jest.

Renata

07-14-2010, 21:47

Argh, unvote, vote ArpeggiateThis.

That vote is so wrong. You don't vote woad because he tied up a vote against you. If you think he did it to spare Pinman, you vote Pinman!

Beskar

07-14-2010, 22:34

Its the name isn't it - it scares everybody off.:bigcry:

No, it is the avatar of a man in a bondage mask which says "I want to touch you in your naughty places".

Askthepizzaguy

07-14-2010, 22:36

No, it is the avatar of a man in a bondage mask which says "I want to touch you in your naughty places".

Did you remember to take your pills today, Beskar?

You're starting to scare the man who wrote post number 73 of this thread.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-14-2010, 23:11

I'll re-iterate this fact once more: A vote on me is a wasted vote.

Either way, do with me what you will. I doubt I can change your opinions with the time remaining this round.

Beskar

07-14-2010, 23:24

Either way, do with me what you will.

Kinky.

seireikhaan

07-15-2010, 00:42

Round is over. Writeup might be a couple hours still.

Romanic

07-15-2010, 03:29

That's how Beskar plays now, it's his way of dealing with metagamers.

If it works, then Beskar can clown around and never be held accountable for his actions. Looks wonderful to survive, but awful to help finding the mafia. Even now, he has not bothered replying to my accusation, while Renata and you are coming out to defend him.

Mmmhmm,,, Don't give me ideas. :smug2: How good will I look as a clown? :clown:

Beskar

07-15-2010, 03:54

Wow, I didn't realise other people defended me.

seireikhaan

07-15-2010, 04:04

The group was evidently in shock. Whether it was from the continued disappearances or from Jannette's unexpected execution of Romanic, it took them a while to pick up the chatter. Once it did, accusations rollercoasted around. Just before Jannette signaled that I needed to get them to cut the chatter, a run of accusations went to a man by the name of arpeggy.... arpegitt... I'll just call him Arp. He was quickly shoved to the foreground by a few in the group.

"Hey, look, I didn't do nothin'!" Arp begged. "Come on... there's gotta be something else we can do about this, right?"

Jannette just smiled in her typical perky manner. "Afraid not, my dear. There's only one way for this to end." She held her right hand out, and a steel battle axe materialized in it. With a flick of her wrist, she swung it with impossible speed, burying it into Arp's left collar. He collapsed instantly. "Alright folks. Off you go! Have a pleasant transience!" A distinct grumbling could emanated from the crowd, but they nonetheless shuffled back to their quarters. "You too, sweetie," she said with a wink to me. I shook my head and paced off myself.

<meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><title></title><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 3.2 (Win32)"><style type="text/css">  </style> Arp 4(ATPG, Pinman, woad&fangs, Renata)
Pinman 3(Beskar, death is yonder, landlubber)
Secura 2(Civplayah, Pinman)
landlubber 1(Diana Abnoba)
Civplayah 1(Splitpersonality)
ATPG 1(Secura)
woad&fangs 1(Arp)

Alive: 13

Askthepizzaguy
Beskar
CaptainBlackadder
Civplayah
Death is Yonder
Diana Abnoba
God Emperor
Landlubber
Pinman
Renata
Secura
splitpersonality
woad&fang

Lynched: 1

Romanic (D1)
Arepeggiate (D2)

Slain: 2

Frozen in Ice (N1)
Skooma Addict (N1)

NIGHT TWO HAS BEGUN! PLEASE SEND ORDERS. YOU HAVE 24 HOURS.

Skooma Addict

07-15-2010, 04:45

Vote: CivPlayah

Speak up

No one else found this a bit odd?

Splitpersonality

07-15-2010, 04:59

No one else found this a bit odd?

Not really, why?

Needed to vote, picked a random person who was not speaking.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-15-2010, 09:56

Sleep tight guys.

Oh and it's Mr.THIS to you. All of you.

civplayah

07-15-2010, 19:10

No one else found this a bit odd?

Actually, no, I didn't find it odd. Random voting/roll call is expected on day one.

Diana Abnoba

07-16-2010, 01:53

Sleep tight guys.

Oh and it's Mr.THIS to you. All of you.

Oh yes sir, Mr. THIS sir...:bow: :laugh4:

seireikhaan

07-16-2010, 03:09

Diana Abnoba scuffled back to her quarters in a hurry. The threat was now well established. This meant it was time to bust out her pride and joy. People had called her crazy. Paranoid. Insane. Well, now she was going to be the one laughing, she had a defense against the lurking evil. While everyone else had spent their time being lazy and who knows what, Diana had spent her time here preparing for such a threat. Her trap would ensure her safety. It would catch any attacker. She would be the hero, standing triumphantly above everyone else. Just one last adjustment to her device, which lay in the entrance to her room.... and it was ready. She huddled herself in a corner, clutching a small iron bar she'd detached from her bed in one hand, and the 'lever' for her trap in the other. FOOTSTEPS! Yes, it was footsteps she was hearing. The attacker was coming! She tightened her grip.

"A... ham sandwich?" She heard. A grin overtook her face. So close. She could see a shadow creeping near the opening. Then, there the intruder was! It knelt over the ham sandwich she had placed so cunningly in the entry-way. She flicked her wrist, tugging the string. The string pulled on a stick which was propping up an obscenely large cardboard box, maybe eight feet tall, which collapsed upon the intruder.

"VICTORY IS MINE!" She proclaimed. "MINE, MINE AAAAAAAALL MINE!" She ran up to the box and kicked it just as a taunt for the intruder. Just after her foot connected, however, a dark, curved knife exploded through the side of the box, catching Diana square in the gut. The knife pulled back and then slashed apart the box as the intruder hacked its way through the thin barrier. Diana fell to the floor, gasping in shock, partially from the failure of her trap, and partially from her rapidly dissolving body. The intruder rolled its eyes, and with a pop, it vanished.

For Splitpersonality, transience was always a terrifying experience. He didn't know who would show up. And not intruders, either, but all the mean folks who haunted his thoughts perpetually. They called him names, screamed at him, and played practical jokes on his mind. But it seemed like, in transience, they got stronger. Especially Bob. Bob was the worst, always kicking him and pelting him with tacks while he was in transience. Alas, there wasn't much choice in the matter. Split sighed, laying on his bed, eyes closed, waiting for the inevitable to happen. There it was. The tell tale prick and pain in his chest. "Darn it Bob, leave me alone!" he yelled. He shot up in his bed. Wait. His bed? He caught a glimpse of someone trotting back down the hall away from his room. Split's attention went back to the splitting pain in his chest. It wasn't tacks, not at all. A gaping wound was slashed across his chest,and it was growing, spreading, faster. Split collapsed in a heap on his bed, thankful that at least he would not have to deal with Bob any more.

When I arrived back in the main hall, Jannette was waiting once more, a grin on her face as always. "Good morning John! I trust you had a good transience again?" I just glowered at her before turning to the rest of the poor souls stuck in here with me. A quick count revealed that more had disappeared.

"Look, Jannette, I don't suppose there's any other better way of doing this, is there? Maybe we could get some more guards to protect everyone during transience?"

"Oh, John, I wouldn't suggest that again if I were you. Now, get back to helping people figure out who's responsible, k?" I was taken aback by the implied threat. Looks like its time for another go....

Alive: 11

Askthepizzaguy
Beskar
CaptainBlackadder
Civplayah
Death is Yonder
God Emperor
Landlubber
Pinman
Renata
Secura
woad&fang

Lynched: 2

Romanic (D1)
Arepeggiate (D2)

Slain: 4

Frozen in Ice (N1)
Skooma Addict (N1)
Diana Abnoba (N2)
Splitpersonality (N2)

DAY THREE HAS BEGUN! YOU HAVE 24 HOURS!

Askthepizzaguy

07-16-2010, 03:13

Vote: Renata

Diana Abnoba

07-16-2010, 03:21

Dang it killed again, well good luck town. *think who would want me dead so soon in the game, only night 2*

Askthepizzaguy

07-16-2010, 03:33

Dang it killed again, well good luck town. *think who would want me dead so soon in the game, only night 2*

Already on it. I will avenge you, I promise.

All right you mafia butt sniffers, I'm going to kill you, and I'm going to make it hurt. You should honorably surrender now, it will save you the humiliation you're about to experience.

Pinman

07-16-2010, 03:36

Vote: Renata

You accusation on me was an excellent deflection.

Splitpersonality

07-16-2010, 03:42

Alright whoever killed me night 2 is stupid :P

Good luck town :D

Beskar

07-16-2010, 05:23

Vote: Renata

Because I can.

civplayah

07-16-2010, 16:10

vote: Renata

For scummy behavior.

Pinman

07-16-2010, 16:16

Unvote; Vote: Beskar

I'm not buying this charade. You are covering. No real innocent, in a VANILLA game, pretends to be scummy.

Death is yonder

07-16-2010, 17:20

vote: Renata

For scummy behavior.

I beg to differ on grounds of hypocrisy :tongue:

Vote: civplayah

civplayah

07-16-2010, 17:42

I beg to differ on grounds of hypocrisy :tongue:

Vote: civplayah

On what grounds am I behaving scummily? Lurking? Check every game I've played, I'm never very vocal.

God Emperor

07-16-2010, 18:26

Civplayah does not seem to scummy to me. I just read through the 5 pages, and I would say pinman seems the most scummy atm, with his switching vote this round. Also Pizza, but for now
Vote: Pinman

Pinman

07-16-2010, 18:36

Civplayah does not seem to scummy to me. I just read through the 5 pages, and I would say pinman seems the most scummy atm, with his switching vote this round. Also Pizza, but for now
Vote: Pinman

-Trying to catch mafia-

Renata

07-16-2010, 18:40

Vote: Renata

You accusation on me was an excellent deflection.

Deflection from what?

I know EXACTLY why AtPG is voting me. Superficially sensible, but wrong, Pizza.

Renata

07-16-2010, 18:42

On what grounds am I behaving scummily? Lurking? Check every game I've played, I'm never very vocal.

It could be the bandwagoning. Or the voting me fourth on said bandwagon with a clearly handwaved "for scummy behavior". Can you specify said scummy behavior?

Askthepizzaguy

07-16-2010, 18:47

Deflection from what?

I know EXACTLY why AtPG is voting me. Superficially sensible, but wrong, Pizza.

Oh?

You seem to have developed psychic powers all of a sudden. Please, tell me why I am voting for you.

Renata

07-16-2010, 18:49

Oh?

You seem to have developed psychic powers all of a sudden. Please, tell me why I am voting for you.

Because of Diana. We had a conversation once about you always knowing if she's mafia or not. When she turned up dead and I saw your vote, that jumped into my head. It makes sense that I might kill her because of that if I were mafia.

Askthepizzaguy

07-16-2010, 18:55

Because of Diana. We had a conversation once about you always knowing if she's mafia or not. When she turned up dead and I saw your vote, that jumped into my head. It makes sense that I might kill her because of that if I were mafia.

Not just that. Killing Split and Diana removes two key people who would be unlikely to lynch me right away. It's quite ingenious actually... which makes me a whole lot easier to lynch.

So I look through the list of players I find most likely to try that kind of strategy, and the names come up: Renata, Beskar, and a couple others.

Essentially, you're correct. But the choice to kill Diana instead of me smacks of knowing to leave me alive as lynchbait, and again that leads to Renata and Beskar, imo.

Romanic

07-16-2010, 19:01

Oh, lynch Beskar already!

Askthepizzaguy

07-16-2010, 19:06

Oh, lynch Beskar already!

As you wish.

Unvote, vote: Beskar

However, I still say Renata is scummy for the same reasons.

johnhughthom

07-16-2010, 19:11

Oh, lynch Beskar already!

There's an echo in The Gameroom...

Beskar

07-16-2010, 19:58

Essentially, you're correct. But the choice to kill Diana instead of me smacks of knowing to leave me alive as lynchbait, and again that leads to Renata and Beskar, imo.

Wrong.

I prefer Diana to you, I would have killed you first and I definitely would never kill Diana to get at you.

Askthepizzaguy

07-16-2010, 20:41

Wrong.

I prefer Diana to you, I would have killed you first and I definitely would never kill Diana to get at you.

You have a history of saying things that you'd never do as mafia, while doing them.

Renata

07-16-2010, 20:52

Beskar

07-16-2010, 21:00

You have a history of saying things that you'd never do as mafia, while doing them.

When?

I know I said "I don't do that as a mafia", I get lynched or night killed, and I go "told you so". :shrug:

Beskar

07-16-2010, 21:07

Askthepizzaguy

07-16-2010, 21:11

unvote; vote: Beskar

So mafia don't use me as a lynch target constantly, and I have to battle the hordes of bad arguments which will end up with us losing the game, because they cannot accept I am not guilty.

Chillax man, it is a vanilla game with a small number of people. It's not a personal slight when people vote for you... and I really don't know what kind of case you're expecting. I seriously do not. There's not like a detective is about to reveal stuff.

Beskar

07-16-2010, 21:33

Chillax man, it is a vanilla game with a small number of people. It's not a personal slight when people vote for you... and I really don't know what kind of case you're expecting. I seriously do not. There's not like a detective is about to reveal stuff.

Well, if you really suspect me. Kill me now. Helps the town later.

landlubber

07-16-2010, 22:03

I was just about to post that I never make it a practice to say I'd never do something.

vote: landlubber Civplayah's getting crap for lurking, but landlubber's worse. He hasn't posted since his vote on Pinman yesterday that came without any actual rationale.

I apologize, I've been a little busy lately.
Beskar's vote for himself seems very odd, especially in a vanilla game. So, I will Vote:Beskar.

woad&fangs

07-16-2010, 22:35

Vote: Beskar

1) Because I am still stuck on the idea that him and ArpeggiateTHIS were/are the mafia
2) For the reasons stated by Pizza against Beskar and Renata
3) For the self vote

seireikhaan

07-17-2010, 03:45

Ok, round is over. However, I am beat and need some z's. You can send orders to me starting now, but the writeup won't be posted for a few hours at least.

seireikhaan

07-17-2010, 11:27

It seemed two more disappearances had sapped the energy out of the group. Just about everyone got their bit into the discussion, but to describe it as "lively" would not exactly be accurate. When we were close to finishing up, it seemed that Beskar would be turned over to Jannette. Yet, unlike the others before him, he needn't be shoved up. The demented fellow practically sprinted to the front to be executed. "Beskar, reporting for duty!" he proclaimed.

"Alrighty then, ready?" Jannette asked.

"You bet, miss!" he beamed back. I manage to curtail my shock at the whole situation to a raised eyebrow. Jannette held her right hand out, open palmed. A large, blue, rifle lookin' thing materialized in her hand. She flipped it, cradled her other hand under the barrel while her main hand squeezed the trigger. A dark blue beam shot out, maybe a centimeter wide, straight into Beskar's forehead. The beam passed through completely, hit the marble wall, and continued undeterred to who knows where. With Beskar laying on the floor, Jannette chirped her customary goodbye as we were ushered back to our quarters for what seemed likely to be another night of madness.

Beskar 5(Pinman, ATPG, Beskar, Landlubber, woad&fangs)
Renata 2(Pinman, Civplayah)
Civplayah 1(Death is Yonder)
Pinman 1 (God Emperor)
Landlubber 1 (Renata)

Alive: 10

Askthepizzaguy
CaptainBlackadder
Civplayah
Death is Yonder
God Emperor
Landlubber
Pinman
Renata
Secura
woad&fang

Lynched: 3

Romanic (D1)
Arepeggiate (D2)
Beskar (D3)

Slain: 4

Frozen in Ice (N1)
Skooma Addict (N1)
Diana Abnoba (N2)
Splitpersonality (N2)

civplayah

07-17-2010, 19:25

Civplayah's getting crap for lurking
You've played with me a long time. You know that I'm never very vocal. But that doesn't mean that I'm not active. I do think a lot about possible mafioso and run scenarios in my head, I just don't post them publicly, or most often than not, I don't share my suspicions with anyone. But I don't usually post more than 1 or two times a phase.

seireikhaan

07-18-2010, 05:00

My apologies, but I'm going to have to delay the writeup until tomorrow morning.

seireikhaan

07-19-2010, 00:31

So truly, the end of the world was nigh. Those who had been deceased were dying once more. Secura wondered where they all truly were. Was this actually hell they were in? It made sense... hell as a facade of something else, only to be revealed in misery. Well, either way, wasn't much she could do about it now but wait, and do whatever possible if attacked. Upon finishing this thought, there was a pop, and someone materialized in front of her, with a knife in their right hand. Secura immediately startled up, and delivered a roundhouse kick in front of her. Another pop, and the person was gone. A harsh pain exploded in her right side. The intruder was now behind her, knife embedded in, tearing it across her back, up to her left shoulder. Another pop signaled the intruder's retreat. Secura collapsed, praying for whatever fate awaited her.

The finishing touches were just about done. "Its a good thing I was given all this time to prepare," Pinman thought to himself. A bright banner hung from the ceiling of his quarters, bidding welcome. Confetti lay strewn across the room, and streamers hung from the few possessions. Pinman figured that if he threw out the welcome wagon, if you will, that whoever was making people disappear might decide it better to have a cup of tea or coffee instead of slaying him. And, doesn't everyone wish to be welcomed? Even if they are murdering psychopaths, surely they'll appreciate a warm welcome. As if on cue, someone materialized in front of Pinman. They appeared a bit taken aback at first, and then more so when pinman pulled a string which triggered even more confetti to rain down upon the room. "Greetings, friend, welcome to my humble abode. Would you care for some coffee? Or perhaps tea?" the intruder roared at Pinman, rushing forward and ramming a knife into Pinman's chest and pinning him to a wall.

"I hate confetti," the intruder snarled. They let Pinman down, and, with a pop, were gone. Pinman was visibly in shock. Who could possibly hate confetti....?

Back to the grind, it seemed. My task of helping these folks figure out who was responsible seemed to be going really poorly. Two more disappeared last night. Jannette, of course, was having none of my somber mood, but I brushed off her chipper mood with a wave of my hand before I turned to the remaining assembled before me. "Its even more dire than before, people. We haven't got long. Please, please, we must apprehend whoever's responsible now! Come on!"

Alive: 8

Askthepizzaguy
CaptainBlackadder
Civplayah
Death is Yonder
God Emperor
Landlubber
Renata
woad&fang

Lynched: 3

Romanic (D1)
Arepeggiate (D2)
Beskar (D3)

Slain: 6

Frozen in Ice (N1)
Skooma Addict (N1)
Diana Abnoba (N2)
Splitpersonality (N2)
Pinman (N3)
Secura (N4)

DAY FOUR HAS BEGUN! YOU HAVE 24 HOURS!

Pinman

07-19-2010, 01:06

It is my strong opinion that one of either Renata or Pizza should be lynched. Probably Pizza.

woad&fangs

07-19-2010, 01:35

Care to elaborate?

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 01:45

It is my strong opinion that one of either Renata or Pizza should be lynched. Probably Pizza.

If, for example:

Askthepizzaguy- lynch
CaptainBlackadder- murder
Civplayah- murder
Death is Yonder- lynch
God Emperor- murder
Landlubber- murder
Renata
woad&fang

Only 2 lynches remain. I am an incorrect lynch. But I agree on Renata.

Vote: Renata

woad&fangs

07-19-2010, 01:50

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 02:00

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

unvote, vote: woad&fangs

If you're a townie, lynching me loses the game, woad, so reverse course.

If you're a mafia, lynching me wins you the game, and you're the better lynch of the two of us.

woad&fangs

07-19-2010, 02:04

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 02:21

This assumes that you are innocent. If you are mafia, then all you have to do is control the course of the discussion today and you win. I know that you are more than capable of doing this and there is a confirmed innocent claiming that you (or Renata) are likely behind the killings.

Yes, so of course you choose incorrectly. But at least the dead guy told you to do it.

I don't buy it, scum.

edit:
Waiting for some dead, confirmed innocent to suggest an incorrect lynch, at this stage of the game, is the most common (and most effective) way of getting another failed lynch and a victory for mafia.

What you just did is hugely scummy. I've been waiting for you to make a mistake, and this is it, woadsy.

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 02:29

wh...wh..wh.... where are you going? :no: Don't leave me here all alone when the party is just getting started.

Come back and fight like a man! :bounce:

woad&fangs

07-19-2010, 03:12

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 03:37

Waiting for me to make a mistake? I didn't realize I was under the watchful eye of the Pizzaguy Bureau of Investigation. You may as well admit it, I only appear "scummy" to you now that I'm threatening you. If you and your partner really think that you can win by trying to out-argue me you're welcome to try but I don't think the town is so enamored with you they think you are beyond suspicion.

You're only threatening me now because it is convenient.

I find your suspicions of me to be convenient, seeing as they've only shown up now, and only after a dead proven innocent suggested it. You are trying to steal his credibility and use it to gain a bad lynch. But that added credibility is an illusion. You are using the dead as an excuse to vote for me now, and the convenient timing bothers me, especially when one false lynch loses.

In my experience, you would have accused me earlier if you thought I was really scummy. You don't feel confident enough to bring me down without using the credibility of the dead as a crutch.

The argument you just used is a false one, too. It is not a matter of out-arguing you, that doesn't matter. What matters is who is guilty. Your actions denote guilt.

I don't think the town is so enamored with you they think you are beyond suspicion.

This is an appeal to something, and it sure isn't logic. I never said I was beyond suspicion, no one has said that. You're arguing something that exists only as a talking point to make me die, regardless of its non-reality.

You're a scumbag, pure and simple. But please, continue talking, I find this all fascinating.

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 03:54

Vanilla mafia game strategy for woad&fangs:

Round 1: "Random vote: Renata" (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129140-The-Trouble-in-Waiting-In-Play&p=2520962&viewfull=1#post2520962)

This cannot be defined as a suspicious vote by anyone except Renata. Therefore, it is the safest move. It also joined no bandwagon, therefore it attracts no attention.

Split votes for you. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129140-The-Trouble-in-Waiting-In-Play&p=2521021&viewfull=1#post2521021)

He's dead.

Round 2: Vote: Beskar "admit your guilt!" (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129140-The-Trouble-in-Waiting-In-Play&p=2522125&viewfull=1#post2522125)

"Admit your guilt?" Seems fake to me. Doesn't match the tone of your other posts.

ArpeggiateTHIS votes for you. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129140-The-Trouble-in-Waiting-In-Play&p=2522137&viewfull=1#post2522137)

He's dead.

Perhaps I fingered your scum buddy, Apreg.... (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129140-The-Trouble-in-Waiting-In-Play&p=2522179&viewfull=1#post2522179)

Yeah except you didn't, because they are both dead.

I'm not lurking post. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129140-The-Trouble-in-Waiting-In-Play&p=2522343&viewfull=1#post2522343)

Adds nothing to the discussion.

Unvote, vote: Arpeg (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129140-The-Trouble-in-Waiting-In-Play&p=2522717&viewfull=1#post2522717)

Following my bandwagon, which is convenient for you because it eliminates the guy that just voted for you.

Next round: Vote Beskar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129140-The-Trouble-in-Waiting-In-Play&p=2523724&viewfull=1#post2523724)

After he votes to kill himself, you top it on the excuse that he voted for himself, therefore he must be guilty. If so, he would have unvoted himself.

Bad vote again.... but hey, voting for anyone else would look both pointless and suspicious, and we can't have that now can we.

Next round: Dead proven innocent mentions my name as a suspect. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129140-The-Trouble-in-Waiting-In-Play&p=2524456&viewfull=1#post2524456)

Woad: Care to elaborate? (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129140-The-Trouble-in-Waiting-In-Play&p=2524468&viewfull=1#post2524468)

As if you cared what his reasons were. :laugh4:

I vote for Renata. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129140-The-Trouble-in-Waiting-In-Play&p=2524472&viewfull=1#post2524472)

Following up on my suspicions from yesterday, based on who was killed.

I'll give you a hint: mafia typically toss their votes on a lot of different people. The logical follow-up on Renata is not usually indicative of mafia.

Opportunistic voting is, though. Such as:

Immediately after I vote for Renata, you vote for me. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129140-The-Trouble-in-Waiting-In-Play&p=2524474&viewfull=1#post2524474)

Tactical.

A dead innocent finds me suspect.
I'm voting for someone else... now, I have made someone else find me more suspicious. Renata is more likely to vote for me than not.
You don't have to explain your vote.
The timing is perfect. I die, you win.

A perfect storm of scummy!

Your arguments since then have stunk like a pile of rotting corpses. Which is fitting, considering you're responsible for one.

woad&fangs

07-19-2010, 03:58

O, but you sure tried to imply that you were above suspicion. In fact, the entire crux of your argument so far has been that "I am innocent so obviously that other guy is guilty".

As for the accusation that targeting you this round is convenient, I would like to say that my suspicions have been mostly on Beskar and ArpeggiateTHIS. I would have voted for Renata if you hadn't voted first but I decided that rather than blindly follow a dead guy on you on a day where we possibly HAVE to be correct. So, I decided to poke you with a feeler vote and in return I got an OMGUS vote and claims that I'm scum and have been acting scummy the entire time. Its interesting to note that you waited to voice this opinion of me until it was "convenient" for you.

edit: Dang it Pizza, you made a huge post while I was making mine. Now I need to read your new post and respond to that :P

woad&fangs

07-19-2010, 04:04

especially when one false lynch loses.

I was going to respond to your analysis of my posting patterns but seeing as it was all poppycock and I'm lazy I'm instead going to comment on this little tidbit that I noticed.

One false lynch only loses if there are two mafia alive. Are you really that sure that we haven't gotten a single one, or was this a slip of the finger on your part?

....unfortunately I don't have the foggiest idea who your partner is :wall:

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 04:11

O, but you sure tried to imply that you were above suspicion. In fact, the entire crux of your argument so far has been that "I am innocent so obviously that other guy is guilty".

No.... that's obviously and demonstrably false.
Straw Man argument, to boot.

What are you trying to pull? This isn't my first game of mafia, woad.

As for the accusation that targeting you this round is convenient, I would like to say that my suspicions have been mostly on Beskar and ArpeggiateTHIS.

One vote each doesn't make for "most". Also demonstrably false.

I would have voted for Renata if you hadn't voted first but I decided that rather than blindly follow a dead guy on you on a day where we possibly HAVE to be correct.

This is total bull. :furious3:

Why do you play a game of mafia? To catch the bad guys, or BE the bad guy.

You were FINE with coming up with your own suspects until now, when you'd be held most accountable for them. You haven't been following the dead's suggestions until this moment.

You are trying to act all innocent, "just following suggestions...". Dude, this is the critical moment. You don't blindly follow a dead guy here. You come up with a serious accusation, make a case, do something besides be a freaking welcome mat. No townie acts like this, least of all you. You're not a passive player.... you may not be the loudest, but you're not someone who barely shows up and just does whatever. You are not that bad at this game. You're asking me to believe you're not woad&fangs.

If you coincidentally had the same suspicions, I could buy that. But you didn't, you asked Pinman what his reasons were. Because you needed ammunition to take me down.

You had no case on me because YOU haven't been actually looking for mafia. You've been waiting for someone ELSE to make a bad case you could follow. Like a scum.

So, I decided to poke you with a feeler vote and in return I got an OMGUS vote and claims that I'm scum and have been acting scummy the entire time. Its interesting to note that you waited to voice this opinion of me until it was "convenient" for you.

That's not why you voted for me. That's bull.... you just said that you voted me because a dead guy did. Now, it's a "feeler" vote?

Feel this: :skull:

edit: Dang it Pizza, you made a huge post while I was making mine. Now I need to read your new post and respond to that :P

I await your entertaining reply.

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 04:14

I was going to respond to your analysis of my posting patterns but seeing as it was all poppycock and I'm lazy I'm instead going to comment on this little tidbit that I noticed.

:whip:

A real townie would give a hoot and actually respond, scum.

One false lynch only loses if there are two mafia alive. Are you really that sure that we haven't gotten a single one, or was this a slip of the finger on your part?

You're a good enough player to know it is prudent to assume the worst case scenario.

Don't take what is obviously the wisest and most aware town behavior and try to call that evidence of scum. It's poor form coming from someone who can't even construct a case against someone ON THE LAST ROUND OF THE GAME.

....unfortunately I don't have the foggiest idea who your partner is :wall:

Humor me. Name names. I want to know who my awesome partner is.

Come up with reasons why we are scum together, too. Or is winning the game as a townie not on your agenda?

I guess you aren't looking for what happens next round, because you know my death ends the game. You're not this lazy, and you're not this bad a player.

@ everyone else:
Lynch this guy.

woad&fangs

07-19-2010, 04:17

One vote each doesn't make for "most". Also demonstrably false.
We've had what, three rounds? Considering that, it does indeed make for "most". So it is not, as you claim, demonstratably false.

this is the critical moment. You don't blindly follow a dead guy here. You come up with a serious accusation, make a case, do something besides be a freaking welcome mat.
You mean exactly like what I'm doing now?

edit: As for potential partners, would you like Lurker #1, Lurker #2, or Lurker #3 because they all seem identical to me.

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 04:28

One vote each doesn't make for "most". Also demonstrably false.
We've had what, three rounds? Considering that, it does indeed make for "most". So it is not, as you claim, demonstratably false.

Using that reasoning, and I use the term loosely, I could claim that I have been your main suspect. Because I have the same amount of votes from you as they did.

this is the critical moment. You don't blindly follow a dead guy here. You come up with a serious accusation, make a case, do something besides be a freaking welcome mat.
You mean exactly like what I'm doing now?

Where is your case? You didn't come up with a case before you voted. You waited.... Pinman said he thinks I'm scummy. You want him to elaborate so you can use his case, because you have none.

Then you vote for me, with no other comment.

That's not a case.

And what you're doing now is not making a case on me, but attempting to defend your own actions, which are indefensible.

edit: As for potential partners, would you like Lurker #1, Lurker #2, or Lurker #3 because they all seem identical to me.

What a dodge.

Hand over your fangs, because you're clearly not predatory enough to use them. :whip:

woad&fangs

07-19-2010, 04:42

Round 1: "Random vote: Renata"

This cannot be defined as a suspicious vote by anyone except Renata. Therefore, it is the safest move. It also joined no bandwagon, therefore it attracts no attention.
Yes, a random vote on day one is definitive evidence that I am scummy :eyeroll:

Split votes for you.

He's dead.
Splits vote was ordained by the Random one. This "evidence" is poppycock.

Round 2: Vote: Beskar "admit your guilt!"

"Admit your guilt?" Seems fake to me. Doesn't match the tone of your other posts.
How does the fact it doesn't match my tone in the rest of the thread make me scummy?
ArpeggiateTHIS votes for you.

He's dead.
Yes, you caught me red handed. I brainwashed the town into lynching a guy who voted for me.
Perhaps I fingered your scum buddy, Apreg....

Yeah except you didn't, because they are both dead.
Yep, I was wrong. It happens.

I'm not lurking post.
Not sure which one you are referring to here.

Unvote, vote: Arpeg

Following my bandwagon, which is convenient for you because it eliminates the guy that just voted for you.
Yes, voting for the guy I thought was suspicious was following your bandwagon. Remember that I thought Beskar and him were the scum. Arp was the more popular choice that day.

Next round: Vote Beskar

After he votes to kill himself, you top it on the excuse that he voted for himself, therefore he must be guilty. If so, he would have unvoted himself.

My reasons for voting him are known. Nothing to see here.

Next round: Dead proven innocent mentions my name as a suspect.

Woad: Care to elaborate?

As if you cared what his reasons were.
It is preferential to barreling in without a clue on an important round.

I vote for Renata.

Following up on my suspicions from yesterday, based on who was killed.
So you claim

I'll give you a hint: mafia typically toss their votes on a lot of different people. The logical follow-up on Renata is not usually indicative of mafia.
However, you know that so it turns into one giant WIFOM.

* A dead innocent finds me suspect. Which is a pretty decent reason to follow up on his suspicion
* I'm voting for someone else... now, I have made someone else find me more suspicious. Renata is more likely to vote for me than not.Irrelavant seeing as I am town
* You don't have to explain your vote. ~Obviously I did.
* The timing is perfect. I die, you win. ~Reverse the I and the you

TL;DR~ VOTE PIZZA

Beskar

07-19-2010, 05:14

The Mafia voted for me.

Also, ATPG would have killed Diana himself, in order to fool people which he did by trying to blame me and Renata.

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 05:21

Yes, a random vote on day one is definitive evidence that I am scummy :eyeroll:

THE EYEROLL!!! THERE IT IS!!!

Oh how I've missed you mister eyeroll smiley.... I haven't seen you since every mafia I've ever accused.

Hold on, let me go grab it from Star Wars. Where's Subotan's quote?

"And apparently, ATPG is always right. :rolleyes: "- Subotan.

Why is it you mafia always roll your eyes at me? Can you tell me this, because I really want to know. Townies don't roll their eyes at me because when I am wrong, they generally just state it. One or two argue with me defiantly, and some of them kick my butt at arguing because they aren't actually scum. Some knock the wind out of my sails with a single line that disproves everything I just said.

But no, the mafia struggle a bit, and when they get frustrated, it's EYEROLL TIME. :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

Splits vote was ordained by the Random one. This "evidence" is poppycock.

The point is, he's dead now. I would guess that his voting for you becomes uncomfortable, and so it's best to whack him because it's suspicious to OMGUS and then wagon so early in the game. So, murdering is the simplest choice.

How does the fact it doesn't match my tone in the rest of the thread make me scummy?

Uneven tone is what points out people who are full of poopy. Like you! :idea2:

Yes, you caught me red handed. I brainwashed the town into lynching a guy who voted for me.

:strawman3:

Hi mister strawman!

I was arguing that you were only too happy to get rid of someone who voted for you, so wagoning him was opportunistic.

But no, you'd rather argue against a strawman. Have fun!

Yep, I was wrong. It happens.

You know who is wrong more often than townies? Mafia.

You know who is wrong on the critical rounds of the game, the final rounds? The Mafia have to be wrong on the final round of the game or else they lose.

Who wants to make the wrong vote, and waits for someone else to prompt said vote so they can deny responsibility? Mafia.

Hey, I might be voting for you, but the corpse told me to. Don't blame me!

Yes, voting for the guy I thought was suspicious was following your bandwagon. Remember that I thought Beskar and him were the scum. Arp was the more popular choice that day.

Next round: Vote Beskar

After he votes to kill himself, you top it on the excuse that he voted for himself, therefore he must be guilty. If so, he would have unvoted himself.

My reasons for voting him are known. Nothing to see here.

Your reasons are bogus. You capped him and used his self-vote as the excuse.

It is preferential to barreling in without a clue on an important round.

Why aren't you looking for your own clues, oh woadiest of woads?

Which is a pretty decent reason to follow up on his suspicion

No, it is not. But it does sound like a reason, and a reason is something you desperately need, since you don't have reasons of your own.

Irrelavant seeing as I am town

Then why are you acting like a lying murderous scumbag strawman-using poopypants? :clown:

Obviously I did.

Vote: Pizza, followed by blank, isn't a reason.

Reverse the I and the you

"No you!"

Excellent defense, about as excellent as your nonexistent case on me.

TL;DR~ VOTE PIZZA

Yes, look, there's lots of words.

Words hurt brain.

People no like words.

My, pizza is talking a lot. People don't always like that.

Why do in text base game people use words? :bigcry:

Translation: Don't listen to either of us, fellow players, because I'm losing badly! Just vote for Pizza, please? He's annoying with his words and stuff.

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 05:22

The Mafia voted for me.

Also, ATPG would have killed Diana himself, in order to fool people which he did by trying to blame me and Renata. Lynch him.

I'll accept your apology after the game. You're not reading any of this, are you?

Beskar

07-19-2010, 05:27

Let's put Pizza and Woad into a room, then bomb it, so they both die. :tongue:

Okay seriously, I am going to take the gamble, kill Woad, he is most likely the mafia out of the two of them.

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 06:35

Okay seriously, I am going to take the gamble, kill Woad, he is most likely the mafia out of the two of them.

@woad: I have a dead guy too. My dead guy can beat up your dead guy.

Oooh I just got a neat idea for a game. :grin:

woad&fangs

07-19-2010, 06:59

Nuh uh! Zombie Pinman totally is better than zombie Beskar! I'm going to sleep now. Hopefully the rest of the living players make the right choice.

God Emperor

07-19-2010, 12:10

Finally done with the wall of text
Pizza has one point that seems to be above all other: If he dies, and if he is a town, we lose.
Woad&fangs
If there still occurs two killings the following night, then targeting pizza for the next round seems fair. If only a single kill occurs the next night, the chances that pizza is not a mafia, should be pretty high, and good enough to him go off the hook
Anything wrong with this 'theory'?

Renata

07-19-2010, 13:44

Renata

07-19-2010, 14:30

vote: askthepizzaguy

Everything you're accusing woad of is something you've done yourself. Your votes have been uniformly (except for this one) opportunistic.

Day One -- jump on the guy who changed his vote and hound him to a lynch. Comment afterward that he was probably a townie because the lynch was too easy. Whoops.
Day Two -- Grab my reasoning against Pinman. When Pinman starts laughing off the bandwagon on him, vote Secura because she said something was "off" (townie, now dead, btw). Later switch again to Arpeg on the basis of a change in tone. Arpeg lynched.
Day Three -- It *must* be either me or Beskar, because split and Diana died. Pinman gets let off the hook of suspicion. Start bandwagon on me, switch to Beskar. That night, Pinman dies -- I'm still here.
Day Four -- And now, day four, when Pinman names you or me, of course it must be me. You've already set it up the day previous. But then woad jumps on you, and you make yet another opportunistic vote change. You only justify your vote afterward, post hoc. And somehow every single thing woad has done all game has a scummy motivation behind it. Even scum aren't that scummy. You're trying too hard.

You do this, Pizza, you hound people to death, and you're damn good at it. Defend yourself now, please and thank you.

Pinman

07-19-2010, 15:11

I agree with Renata. I think shes innocent and Pizza is guilty.

landlubber

07-19-2010, 15:25

I've seen Pizzaguy as mafia before. He accuses someone, he won't let the idea of them being mafia go, trying to seem like a passionate townie... but then he's mafia.
Vote:ATPG

God Emperor

07-19-2010, 16:10

If town loses if another townie dies, then you are right let's remove atpg
Unvote; Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Death is yonder

07-19-2010, 16:18

Hmm.

Thermal once told me, you can make a case on anyone if you tried hard enough.

That certainly seems to be the case right now.

ATPG's case sounds too certain and justified, somehow everything that Woad has done is now being portrayed as a strike against him. Imaginary/implausible/minutely possible links everywhere, I'll echo what Renata said and say that you're trying too hard.

Also, if this is just a fishing attempt to see who buys the easy vote (lazy people), I think it backfired rather stupendously, and furthermore, this is rather implausible as a motive because you took it very far, father than needs be unless you were dead serious in your accusations.

Vote: ATPG

Unsure why, but when you talk about how woad wants to get someone lynched so that he can win the game, the same would follow for you, and many others. Townies and mafia alike want to get someone lynched this round, though for different reasons. Therefore, this as a reasoning for woad's supposed "scumminess" is invalid.

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 18:14

Hehehe, this is the point where I can say I tried, and I can also say, I told you so.

You guys can never read me correctly without an investigator to help you.

I have some eggs here, so please wash your faces.

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 18:17

I will say this much: The distancing vote between woad and Renata on round one, plus his incorrect vote on me this round, is indicative of their partnership. I would also suggest that it was indeed Renata who killed off Diana and Split, for very smart reasons.

You will all reverse your votes and place them on woad&fangs, now.

Secura

07-19-2010, 18:18

I have some eggs here, so please wash your faces.

You could have baked them a nice humble pie, cooked in the Oven of Shame at Gas Mark Egg-On-Your-Face.

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 18:30

Hmm.

Thermal once told me, you can make a case on anyone if you tried hard enough.

False logic.

The case isn't what's important, the facts of the situation are. His guilt is what is important.

That certainly seems to be the case right now.

No, it's not.

ATPG's case sounds too certain and justified, somehow everything that Woad has done is now being portrayed as a strike against him. Imaginary/implausible/minutely possible links everywhere, I'll echo what Renata said and say that you're trying too hard.

That's better than not trying at all. I often wonder why I bother, when people don't come up with their own cases ever and just skate through games and then wonder why they lose.

Not you, DIY, but I can certainly suggest God Emperor hasn't put out the effort this time, or at least hasn't shown it.

Also, if this is just a fishing attempt to see who buys the easy vote (lazy people), I think it backfired rather stupendously, and furthermore, this is rather implausible as a motive because you took it very far, father than needs be unless you were dead serious in your accusations.

Incorrect; look at how far I took it against Subotan in Star Wars..... against Psychonaut in Star Wars.... against Andres in Pick your Power.

Do you guys remember how I play at all?

Vote: ATPG

Unsure why, but when you talk about how woad wants to get someone lynched so that he can win the game, the same would follow for you, and many others.

That's not the point. The point is, woad is definitely trying to get someone lynched, but he's basing it off of an erroneous dead guy.

COME ON, PEOPLE, you've been mafia before. Picture this.

It's the final round of the game. You're up against a still fairly large town, and it's a vanilla game. You're worried that accusations against people will backfire. You haven't actually been hunting mafia. So you don't have a case.

Your plan? Wait for someone to make a bad case.

Oh look, a dead guy says that pizza is guilty.... and he just voted for Renata.

Gotcha....

Now Renata, good or evil, will vote for Pizza. With the added weight of Pinman's accusation, the lynch cannot possibly fail. All you have to do is vote for this guy, and the game is over.

How could you, as mafia, possibly resist this move?

Think about it. You're not giving me a fair shake, and you're ignoring what is OBVIOUSLY the scummiest move in the game.

But what seems obvious to me isn't always obvious to others. Just think about it. The game isn't technically over yet.

Townies and mafia alike want to get someone lynched this round, though for different reasons. Therefore, this as a reasoning for woad's supposed "scumminess" is invalid.

Wrong. You're just plain wrong, DIY.

You've looked at it and made a snap judgment, and the judgment is wrong.

Assume that you were right for the moment, and I'm mafia, and I'm about to be lynched.... well you have the votes, yay.

Now, you have the free time to consider, whether or not your assessment was correct. Clear your minds, go back, and pretend you're woad&fangs..... read all of his posts and interactions.... and put yourself in his place. Think of what YOU would do as mafia.

If you do this, I am confident you will arrive at the same conclusion; everything woad&fangs did all game long was based on one thing: Opportunism. Taking out anyone, at any cost, and not having to form his own case on anyone, ever.

He sometimes gave bull spit reasons, but anyone can create a 3-second "this is why" which is a thinly-vieled attempt to cover his tracks.

You have nothing to lose by merely considering my suggestion. Do you guys consider yourselves mafia players, or casual fanboys? This is the big leagues, the vanilla games, where you don't get help. You have to guess based on subtlety, and on psychology, on murder patterns, and on votes. I am even giving you a big hint, this current path loses the game for the town. Consider that I am telling the truth, while you have the time and can afford to, and GO BACK and re-read the thread until you see what I am saying.

Please.

Pinman

07-19-2010, 18:46

Guys, this bandwagon on ATPG is huge. Too huge to reverse if we come up with more solid logic later.

I think ATPG is more likely to be guilty at this point, but it would be best if at least some of the votes on ATPG were removed - if you know who cant change your vote later.

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 18:48

Pinman is worried that I'll just keep talking and unduly influence people, because I'm too persuasive. (Yeah, look how persuasive I am...) But I admit it.

Therefore, I won't post anymore in this thread, assuming there are some votes on woad to make the game close, and therefore possible for the town to come to their senses and win. I gave my word. You're on your own. Re-think the situation, and give pizza a fighting chance.

Be the pizzaguy. It's your turn to solve one.

civplayah

07-19-2010, 19:26

Hmm, I actually believe ATPG. vote: woad&fangs

woad&fangs

07-19-2010, 19:28

I guess that answers the question about who Pizza's partner is.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-19-2010, 19:29

The ghost of Arpeg rises from the ashes with a vengeful glint in his eyes:

unvote: Beskar; Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

The vote that arguably got me killed. Let me bring your attention to it.

1. This vote was the sneakiest OMGUS vote I've ever seen; he slid it in so conveniently after people went after me.

2. This vote was third on the bandwagon that lynched poor Arpeg (me, sorry I like talking in third person). You ALL know what they say about third votes.

3. Beskar, who I firmly believe to have been scum (see his early "fos: Romanic's scum buddy" against my anti-Romanic statement and assorted other actions) was woad's previous vote random vote against me. As first random vote in the round, it must have seemed likely to him that people would leave this unnoticed, thus clearing woad and Beskar of any suspicion and a possible lynch.

Now listen to Pizza's arguments, those delicious, cheese-topped, pepperoni-smothered arguments. They're clean. There's a positive motive for everything he's done. He's even gone so far as to stick his little townie neck on the line round one, which generally results in a lynching.

All I'll say is: The woad is a lie. The pizza isn't. *Applause in the courtroom*

The ghost of Arpeg promptly vanishes...

woad&fangs

07-19-2010, 19:41

#1: I thought you and Beskar were scum. You were more popular as a lynch choice between the two of you.

#2: WIFOM. I've played enough mafia to know about the 3rd person scummy rule. Thus, it is irrelevant.

#3: I'm confused by what you're trying to say here. Are you trying to say that me and Beskar are partners?

As for the argument that Pizza is innocent because of his day one antics, I don't buy it. He does stuff like that all the time. ATPG is confident enough to do that kind of stuff when he is mafia. His actions are not protown, even if they are dressed up to look like that.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-19-2010, 19:45

#1: I thought you and Beskar were scum. You were more popular as a lynch choice between the two of you.

#2: WIFOM. I've played enough mafia to know about the 3rd person scummy rule. Thus, it is irrelevant.

#3: I'm confused by what you're trying to say here. Are you trying to say that me and Beskar are partners?

1. What possible reason would give you the idea that me and Beskar were scum?

2. WIFOM: The scummy excuse for everything.

3. You're damn right I am.

woad&fangs

07-19-2010, 19:47

1: The fact that you voted me immediately after I voted him. I don't know how much you play mafia, but I've been assuming that you are fairly new to it and may have made a silly mistake like that.
2: WIFOM
3: Yes, I lynched my partner :rolleyes: <--(for Pizza)

Renata

07-19-2010, 19:53

I guess that answers the question about who Pizza's partner is.

No. If Pizza is mafia, the other one is probably God Emperor. Look at the justification for his vote on you -- it applies equally well to Pizzaguy, but GE doesn't mention that. And there was a gratuitous negative comment about GE in Pizza's post on the last page.

woad&fangs

07-19-2010, 19:58

civplayah

07-19-2010, 20:36

I guess that answers the question about who Pizza's partner is.

Oh, PLEASE. If ATPG was mafia and I was his buddy, then I wouldn't make it so blatantly obvious.

civplayah

07-19-2010, 20:43

However, he switched his vote to Pizza. I doubt his partner will vote for him when they can win if I am lynched. Unless, he's going to switch his vote at the last second. I still think Civplayah is more likely. He spent more time defending his own posting habits than attempting to analyze the situation. That combined with the lurking and his vote on me in the game deciding round point to Civplayah.

Lurking, lurking, lurking. Your attack on me covers no ground. I lurk. In all my games. That's just what I do. Look at any game I've played- at CFC or here- and you'll see. I already explained this. And, I do analyze the situation- YOU ARE SCUM!

Renata

07-19-2010, 21:36

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 22:49

Just a reminder, you have one and a half hours.

I am disappoint with Blackadder.

Only active townies online right now can save this game.

That's more than I can expect from God Emperor or Landlubber, so the game is over. Congratulations Renata and Woad.

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 22:55

Oh, lynch Beskar already!

As you wish.

Unvote, vote: Beskar

However, I still say Renata is scummy for the same reasons.

This is where I had it, but I lost it. I should have stuck with my original suspicions.

You can tell they are guilty because they were both online for almost the entire second half of this round, agreeing with each other.

Secura

07-19-2010, 23:04

Only active townies online right now can save this game.

It's the typical lame mafia tactic though; kill off the good players so that you can cruise to an easy victory... Beskar and Subotan in the Beefdom game are the only case that I can recall in a long time where I've seen lurkers and inactives purged immediately and the good players left alive until end-game; they left Romanic, Flaxy and so on alive because they were committed players and it was a challenge.

You were the only one they killed and that was out of real necessity rather than chickening out like mafia usually do.

landlubber

07-19-2010, 23:30

That's more than I can expect from Landlubber.

I appreciate your confidence in me. :p

Askthepizzaguy

07-19-2010, 23:41

I appreciate your confidence in me. :p

You were offline and there was only a little bit of time left; I could have worded it better. I meant that I didn't think you would return.

vote: woad?

seireikhaan

07-19-2010, 23:42

One hour left.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-19-2010, 23:43

It's the typical lame mafia tactic though; kill off the good players so that you can cruise to an easy victory... Beskar and Subotan in the Beefdom game are the only case that I can recall in a long time where I've seen lurkers and inactives purged immediately and the good players left alive until end-game; they left Romanic, Flaxy and so on alive because they were committed players and it was a challenge.

You were the only one they killed and that was out of real necessity rather than chickening out like mafia usually do.

Yeah, and I was kept alive because Subo threw me off the trail and wrapped me around his little finger. I still haven't forgiven him for that.

Askthepizzaguy

07-20-2010, 00:50

Well, it's no point denying it now.... time's up.

I was totally the mafia. You caught me. :shame:

The jig is up, civplayah. Our reign of terror has come to an end.... :bigcry:

woad&fangs

07-20-2010, 00:55

:angel:
Now to get your just desserts, mafia.

civplayah

07-20-2010, 00:58

Well, it's no point denying it now.... time's up.

I was totally the mafia. You caught me. :shame:

The jig is up, civplayah. Our reign of terror has come to an end.... :bigcry:
Wait, what? I'm not the mafia.

Askthepizzaguy

07-20-2010, 01:05

:angel:
Now to get your just desserts, mafia.

Woah, nearly slipped up there, didn't ya? :laugh4:

you already won, relax. Geez.

seireikhaan

07-20-2010, 01:06

I'll be out for an hour or two, and then I'll get the writeup. People may start sending me orders if they wish.

Pinman

07-20-2010, 01:44

Could be a Pizza WIFOM with Woad, unless Pizza is just playing us for fun and is actually innocent. We will find out very shortly.

Askthepizzaguy

07-20-2010, 02:05

Could be a Pizza WIFOM with Woad, unless Pizza is just playing us for fun and is actually innocent. We will find out very shortly.

You still can't tell?

I've said it before, I'll say it again, you guys cannot read me without an investigator. That's why I love these non-investigator games.

johnhughthom

07-20-2010, 02:07

I've said it before, I'll say it again, you guys cannot read me without an investigator.

So sensible people don't try and just lynch you.

Askthepizzaguy

07-20-2010, 02:12

So sensible people don't try and just lynch you.

We'll see how sensible it looks in a minute.

johnhughthom

07-20-2010, 02:15

We'll see how sensible it looks in a minute.

I don't mean sensible as a game winning strategy, I mean in a staying sane sense.

Renata

07-20-2010, 02:27

I should sig-ify those last three posts.

Askthepizzaguy

07-20-2010, 02:43

I should sig-ify those last three posts.

No you shouldn't. :tongue2:

You should sig-ify where I accused you of being mafia.

seireikhaan

07-20-2010, 03:24