Small Mafia Game Dragon Age: The Aeducan Succession [Stopped] [Archive] - Page 2

johnhughthom

07-20-2010, 00:19

I'll post it in steps, so you can tell me exactly which step I got wrong.
1. I began life as a dwarf with a dwarven shortsword (and armour, but that strays off my point). How do we know you're a dwarf?
2. The mafia attempted a kill with an axe. Really????
3. A sword is not an axe. Again, really?????
4. If I sell my sword, it will appear in the shop next turn for everybody to see. OK, surely one of these points will mean something...
5. Since the start of the game, there has not been any dwarven shortswords passed through the shop. Therefore we can assume that the sword I am claiming to have sold has existed since the start of the game. And...
6. It is totally irrational to assume that a player would start with two different weapons. No, it's not. A rogue might, but I'd expect them to start with two daggers. Shortsword and dagger is a perfectly logical rogue equip.

Where'd I stray off the righteous path, m'lord? You were ever on the path?

Don't take that entirely seriously. The point stands though, selling your sword proves nothing.

Double A

07-20-2010, 00:33

Or if you're a master at double-handed weapons, you could start out with a short sword AND an axe.

(Beserkers are awesome)

Pinman

07-20-2010, 00:46

Lets go with Imprison: Chaotix.

Not like we have any better leads really.

Chaotix

07-20-2010, 01:04

Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

I was the one who threw him in the jailhouse as a hunch, and it seems my hunch is likely correct. I am less-inclined to believe his excuses than others, as I am sure the intruders will have a cover role anyway.

For those of you voting me, you now know why I was acting "scummy". The reason I do not want us to imprison players with the lynch is because it renders my own ability, as a Guardian of the Law, useless. Figure this: had Reenk been imprisoned last night, and I had still chosen to imprison ArpeggiateTHIS, we would not know which one was prevented from killing. Because we lynched him, I now know for sure that unless the killer has made a wild, unpredictable move, Arpeg is our culprit.

We know Reenk was innocent. I did not want to exile him, but it was better than imprisoning him, the only other option. I had planned to jail him myself and get Arpeg lynched yesterday, but that didn't work out.

As far as I can tell, the mafia had no idea such an ability as mine existed. They would therefore have no reason to refrain from killing after an exile. That's why I believe Arpeg is our culprit.

If I'm going to let Arpeg off, I'm going to need a FULL role reveal from him, including his name. And if I decide to believe his story, then we can test it manually: I, Guardian Darev, happen to be a female dwarf of the Noble Caste.

Romanic

07-20-2010, 01:55

Chaotix, your ability is far from useless if we imprison someone while you imprison another. If a murder occurs, having 2 people in jail means that both cannot have done it. How useless is that?

You're looking at it the wrong way: trying to find who's guilty, when roleblocks should be mostly used to know who's innocent.

johnhughthom

07-20-2010, 01:56

I think we can only have one imprisonment at a time.

Romanic

07-20-2010, 01:59

I think we can only have one imprisonment at a time. I don't think so JHT. Read again what Chaotix wrote:

For those of you voting me, you now know why I was acting "scummy". The reason I do not want us to imprison players with the lynch is because it renders my own ability, as a Guardian of the Law, useless. Figure this: had Reenk been imprisoned last night, and I had still chosen to imprison ArpeggiateTHIS, we would not know which one was prevented from killing. Because we lynched him, I now know for sure that unless the killer has made a wild, unpredictable move, Arpeg is our culprit.

johnhughthom

07-20-2010, 02:03

I think you're correct Romanic, I interpreted it erroneously first time. Though Chaotix' reasoning is strange, if we imprison two people at a time we are more likely to catch somebody, I would rather have two suspects than none.

Double A

07-20-2010, 05:06

We haven't heard from God Emperor in a while... vote: God Emperor

Chaotix

07-20-2010, 05:11

All right. I see the sense in Romanic's suggestions. I'll take this into account in the future.

However, I'd still like to see Arpeg with his full reveal.

And I'd also appreciate some of the votes coming off of me.

seireikhaan

07-20-2010, 07:43

... very well. Unvote: Chaotix

Vote: God Emperor

For now, anyways. I have a hunch that this deal with Arp is either accident or setup.

Secura

07-20-2010, 08:25

Or if you're a master at double-handed weapons, you could start out with a short sword AND an axe.

(Beserkers are awesome)

For some balance reasons, mainly due to the fact that Warriors can near enough do everything Rogues can in the games, I've made some distinctions between Rogues & Warriors:

Warriors wear heavier armour, can wield two-handed weapons and can use shields.
Rogues wear lighter armour, can dual-wield and can use bows.

We know Reenk was innocent.

There is a distinction in this game between innocents, who all pursue the same goal of neutralising the mafia, and neutrals, who pursue their own unique victory conditions; Reenk was not innocent... or he wouldn't have abandoned his old life to become a legionnaire. :P

Splitpersonality

07-20-2010, 08:42

Vote: Mr.This

For pressure, nothing more, nothing less.

If chaotix accepts your story, I shall move my vote.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-20-2010, 08:46

Vote: Mr.This

For pressure, nothing more, nothing less.

If chaotix accepts your story, I shall move my vote.

You want a full reveal? Have I not already given you enough?

A full reveal would likely get me killed anyway, Secura has hinted that some players might have certain "agendas" to remove me.

Splitpersonality

07-20-2010, 08:47

I would like to outright state I have no intent to kill anyone as part of any victory conditions.

I'm sure you'd not take my word for it however...

Khazaar

07-20-2010, 09:08

So chaotix claims roleblocker, to make sure that he doesn´t get voted off... Vote: ArepeggiateTHIS

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-20-2010, 09:14

I would like to outright state I have no intent to kill anyone as part of any victory conditions.

I'm sure you'd not take my word for it however...

This was also stated. I think what Secura meant was that victory conditions will change.

So chaotix claims roleblocker, to make sure that he doesn´t get voted off... Vote: ArepeggiateTHIS

Can you not just throw me in jail?

Oh, and I will reveal if that is what general consensus would have me do. Or if it saves my skin. I'm just not happy that it would come to this.

Splitpersonality

07-20-2010, 09:28

Unvote;

I'm not wanting a bandwaggon here, just pressure.

Khazaar

07-20-2010, 09:30

Can you not just throw me in jail?

There has to be a majority. And the others have voted lynch against you, currently it doesn´t look very good, but there´s still time...

Splitpersonality

07-20-2010, 09:33

Imprision: Mr.This

An attempt to change your fate, I'd prefer you given time, and the benefit of the doubt for now.

God Emperor

07-20-2010, 10:51

Imprison Chaotix

I honestly think Mr This has given a rather fine roleclaim, that I find it wierd Chaotix won't let go of the idea that Mr This is a guilty person. Also Secura seemed to back up some of the things Mr This said?

Yes I am sorry for my minor participation, but I am on vacation, and that it sadly does not allow me to be active all of the time

Beskar

07-20-2010, 10:54

I honestly think Mr This has given a rather fine roleclaim, that I find it wierd Chaotix won't let go of the idea that Mr This is a guilty person.

Not entirely, he has been doing it in another game as well.

One thing that has struck me though, ArgTHIS is looking for a female guardian/noble. Chaotix is claiming female guardian/noble.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-20-2010, 11:04

Not entirely, he has been doing it in another game as well.

Yes, in Star Fox I was Bill Grey. And I got killed. And I was proven to be Bill Grey. And my investigative actions were proven.

Just for the record, there.

Beskar

07-20-2010, 11:32

I was referring to the:

that I find it wierd Chaotix won't let go of the idea that Mr This is a guilty person
:tongue:

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-20-2010, 11:35

I was referring to the:

:tongue:

Ohhhhhh, right.

Renata

07-20-2010, 13:46

... very well. Unvote: Chaotix

Vote: God Emperor

For now, anyways. I have a hunch that this deal with Arp is either accident or setup.

Set-up? Oh really. How do you figure that? Chaotix and Arpeg got together last night and said "Oh, I know what we'll do. There's nobody in prison, so let's skip our kill. Then one of us will run out there saying "OMG I was roleblocked don't kill me guyz I'm just looking to get married". Then the other will say "I roleblocked him! He's guilty, full role-reveal or the dwarf dies! Or I marry him, whichever. Oh, and we'll get Secura to back up the marriage story, too, that's the ticket."

Yeah, now there's a plausible plan.

Let's look at the other option: you randomly called Chaotix scummy yesterday without specifying why, then hit the jackpot today (or so you thought) when a dead innocent (well, non-mafia) fingered Chaotix as well. You got to say "yay, I was right!" and look all innocent and stuff. Then he turns out to be a roleblocker -- whoops. Back off fast and vote a lurker, but don't forget to over-justify your original vote along the way with this silly "setup" comment.

vote: Yaseikhaan

Captain Blackadder

07-20-2010, 14:28

Yes it appears that mr this has being set up though there is a possiblty that he has not and we have got incredibly lucky I say contiune to role block him for now if the mafia really want to set him up let them waste more nights in doing so. I feel it is too early for the mafia to be pulling a dual bluff.

Renata

07-20-2010, 14:36

Oh, a setup of ArpTHIS, not a setup by ArpTHIS. Which must be what Khaan suggested also.

unvote

That's almost plausible. Plausible enough not to be scummy, anyway.

Romanic

07-20-2010, 14:47

Chaotix explained why it is unlikely that Arpeg is being framed : Last night, the mafia didn't know about Chaotix's ability and thus could not refrain from killing to frame Arpeg on the basis that he would be in jail.

Renata

07-20-2010, 14:54

No, a frame by Chaotix himself. Refrain from the kill while roleblocking the previous day's top living suspect, then vote the suspect on the grounds there was no kill. Think that's what Khaan was getting at, anyway. Not so sure about Blackadder.

Captain Blackadder

07-20-2010, 14:57

No I am saying that the mafia simply chose not to kill in an attempt to fram this and the role block is simply a coincidence.

Romanic

07-20-2010, 15:01

No I am saying that the mafia simply chose not to kill in an attempt to fram this and the role block is simply a coincidence.

How is a no-kill framing Arpeg if they didn't know he was being roleblocked?

Renata

07-20-2010, 15:03

No I am saying that the mafia simply chose not to kill in an attempt to fram this and the role block is simply a coincidence.

That's what doesn't make sense. There's no frame if no one is locked up or otherwise incapacitated; it's just an unexplained no-kill.

autolycus

07-20-2010, 15:07

If we imprison chaotix, he can't keep blocking others. unvote:chaotix
For lack of a better option, vote: god emperor

Captain Blackadder

07-20-2010, 15:15

Sorry I am paying way too much attention to the other game and not this one reading back over the thread for some reason I thought that This was imprisoned last night. Disregard what I said earlier.

Pinman

07-20-2010, 17:03

What if somebody was attacked and dodged the attack? Is that a possible explanation Secura?

I am not in favor of killing anybody given the seeming 'slowness' of this setup. There are numerous ways for power roles to resist attacks. So people aren't dying at such a rate that merits executions.

TheFlax

07-20-2010, 17:08

Current tally to the best of my knowledge:

Vote God Emperor: 3 (Double A, Yaseikhaan, autolycus)
Imprison Chaotix: 3 (johnhughtom, Pinman, God Emperor)
Imprison ArpTHIS: 2 (ArpTHIS, Split)
Vote ArpTHIS: 2 (Chaotix, Khazaar)

I think Imprison Chaotix is a bad move. If some don't believe him, we can pick someone for him to roleblock and that person can tell us the next day if he did it or not. I don't think that's necessary though because of ArpTHIS's claim of being roleblocked.

If I have to Vote: God Emperor, whom I don't even know why we are voting for, to stop Chaotix from being imprisoned, then so be it.

johnhughthom

07-20-2010, 17:11

If I have to Vote: God Emperor, whom I don't even know why we are voting for, to stop Chaotix from being imprisoned, then so be it.

Unvote, Imprison: Mr THIS.

Surely a better option than exiling/murdering someoe without cause.

Pinman

07-20-2010, 17:11

Fine.

Unimprison; Imprison: ArpeggiateTHIS

Now can we not kill somebody random?

God Emperor

07-20-2010, 17:34

I am sorry but since you all are so eager to have me killed without any cause, surely an imprisonment seems to be a better option, as concluded with all our other targets? or am I that special ?:cry:

Double A

07-20-2010, 17:37

I am sorry but since you all are so eager to have me killed without any cause, surely an imprisonment seems to be a better option, as concluded with all our other targets? or am I that special ?:cry:

Oh good he's back.

Hi.

civplayah

07-20-2010, 17:52

imprison: ArpeggiateTHIS

seireikhaan

07-20-2010, 17:54

Renata- :inquisitive:

It is possible that chaotix engineered the whole thing. It may be possible that he knows someone who's leaking information or that the mafia discovered chaotix' role night one. It may be possible that the mafia got lazy or were inhibited by role or some other game structure. I simply stated that, in my opinion, the odds were more likely that the imprisonment of arp was not directly related to the absence of a kill. I personally find it a bit odd that there have not been multiple killers yet- the game, I would think, especially given we already know there is a protector(n1), and role blocker(chaotix), that there would be a somewhat high number of mafia or otherwise anti-town forces to balance the pro-town forces out. My best guess is that the anti-town forces have some kind of "extra-cirricular" abilities that don't directly relate to killing, and they have been focusing more on these the first couple nights.

TheFlax

07-20-2010, 18:29

I'm not exactly what imprisoning someone tells us at this point, it only clears someone as innocent if there is only one killer, which I doubt with our numbers. Yaseikhaan sums it up well. If he is right, imprisoning the right people won't even give us feedback that we are right. We should be lynching someone. What I said earlier should be taken more as a "Why God Emperor?"

Renata

07-20-2010, 18:43

Renata- :inquisitive:

It is possible that chaotix engineered the whole thing. It may be possible that he knows someone who's leaking information or that the mafia discovered chaotix' role night one.

There's no private chat or off-board reveals allowed in this game, so leaks are a bit difficult to hypothesize. The mafia discovering Chaotix' role night one is plausible, but there being any relationship between that and what happened between Chaotix and ArpTHIS is not so much -- they'd have to be quite sure Chaotix would block ArpTHIS in order to get any use out of it at all, and that goes right back to the leak issue. IMO either Chaotix did it himself as a way to get townie cred for his mafia-roleblocker role; or it was coincidence. (I think ArpTHIS is a townie.)

It may be possible that the mafia got lazy or were inhibited by role or some other game structure.

Sure, there are several possibilities.

I simply stated that, in my opinion, the odds were more likely that the imprisonment of arp was not directly related to the absence of a kill.

Actually you said "accident or setup". You didn't rank the likelihood.

I personally find it a bit odd that there have not been multiple killers yet- the game, I would think, especially given we already know there is a protector(n1),

Romanic "protected" himself, or?

and role blocker(chaotix), that there would be a somewhat high number of mafia or otherwise anti-town forces to balance the pro-town forces out.

You're assuming by this that Chaotix and Romanic are both pro-town. Especially now we are aware there are neutral roles as well as mafia, that is not a given.

My best guess is that the anti-town forces have some kind of "extra-cirricular" abilities that don't directly relate to killing, and they have been focusing more on these the first couple nights.

This is entirely possible.

I said I found your conclusions plausible once I understood them, and I had even unvoted you -- what's the point of this post? You're defending yourself where no defense was needed.

Anyone have a vote count?

TheFlax

07-20-2010, 18:58

Anyone have a vote count?

Imprison ArpTHIS: 5 (ArpTHIS, Split, johnhughtom, Pinman, civplayah)
Vote God Emperor: 4 (Double A, Yaseikhaan, autolycus, TheFlax)
Vote ArpTHIS: 2 (Chaotix, Khazaar)
Imprison Chaotix: 1 (God Emperor)

seireikhaan

07-20-2010, 19:00

There's no private chat or off-board reveals allowed in this game, so leaks are a bit difficult to hypothesize. The mafia discovering Chaotix' role night one is plausible, but there being any relationship between that and what happened between Chaotix and ArpTHIS is not so much -- they'd have to be quite sure Chaotix would block ArpTHIS in order to get any use out of it at all, and that goes right back to the leak issue. IMO either Chaotix did it himself as a way to get townie cred for his mafia-roleblocker role; or it was coincidence. (I think ArpTHIS is a townie.)
Indeed.

Actually you said "accident or setup". You didn't rank the likelihood.Called it a hunch, to be precise, that it was one of the two.

Romanic "protected" himself, or?Re-read the writeup. Romanic is pretty clearly protected by someone else.

You're assuming by this that Chaotix and Romanic are both pro-town. Especially now we are aware there are neutral roles as well as mafia, that is not a given.The protector, yes, that would be a bit of an odd role for an anti-town role. Chaotix could easily be anti-town, but it seems quite risky for him to reveal so early if he was. So I would hazard that he's probably, at worst, neutral.

I said I found your conclusions plausible once I understood them, and I had even unvoted you -- what's the point of this post? You're defending yourself where no defense was needed.Thought I ought to clarify for the rest of the players, since you decided to clarify my post for me(which you did a mostly good job of). Your series of posts did strike me as quite odd though, going from hyper-aggressive to suddenly backing down- the very thing you accused me of yourself.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-20-2010, 19:26

Imprison ArpTHIS: 5 (ArpTHIS, Split, johnhughtom, Pinman, civplayah)
Vote God Emperor: 4 (Double A, Yaseikhaan, autolycus, TheFlax)
Vote ArpTHIS: 2 (Chaotix, Khazaar)
Imprison Chaotix: 1 (God Emperor)

Seems more than fair on town's part. I appreciate that town hasn't right-out lynched me.

johnhughthom

07-20-2010, 19:52

Any particular reason you talk about "town" as if you aren't part of it?

Renata

07-20-2010, 19:58

Thought I ought to clarify for the rest of the players, since you decided to clarify my post for me(which you did a mostly good job of).

All right.

Your series of posts did strike me as quite odd though, going from hyper-aggressive to suddenly backing down- the very thing you accused me of yourself.

I didn't accuse you of being hyper-aggressive; I accused you of opportunistically jumping on a chance to give an earlier vote some unearned weight by associating it with Reenk's accusation, then hedging your bets in a scummy way when forced to back down. But you didn't hedge your bets in a scummy way, so there was no reason to keep my vote. By itself, the re-accusation of Chaotix means nothing.

Renata

07-20-2010, 20:00

Any particular reason you talk about "town" as if you aren't part of it?

Any particular reason you pick on a triviality of wording as a reason to cast doubt on someone?

johnhughthom

07-20-2010, 20:03

Any particular reason you pick on a triviality of wording as a reason to cast doubt on someone?

Any particular reason you... Nah, I'm not gonna bite.

Renata

07-20-2010, 20:05

Oh please do, please do. (I'm up to my ears in Lylat review; I could use the entertainment.)

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-20-2010, 21:24

Any particular reason you talk about "town" as if you aren't part of it?

I can't exactly take part in my own lynching, can I?

Renata

07-21-2010, 00:46

imprison: ArpeggiateTHIS

There have to be better options tomorrow.

Romanic

07-21-2010, 03:51

Imprison: ArpeggiateTHIS

To cast a vote today.

Chaotix

07-21-2010, 05:04

Unvote, Imprison: Arpeg

I'm going with the flow.

Now, the mafia is either going to remain silent to make Arpeg look guilty (or actually is Arpeg), OR they're going to attack me. We're all dwarves here, there's gotta be a protector out there. If you think my job's important, you might protect me tonight.

Also, Arpeg- I assume if you're that cautious of revealing your role then you're probably one of the three princes. On the condition that your name is Trian, Bhelen, or Duran Aeducan, then I would accept your hand in marriage should you choose to offer it to me. If you don't have to investigate me, then you won't have to bother with it.

And if you're not one of the princes, don't bother with me. :clown:

Romanic

07-21-2010, 08:10

Just a slight change in the rules regarding the imprison option; while this prevents the player from using any abilities for the night phase, it also prevents them being targeted by those of others too.People in jail cannot be targeted by abilities, that could explain why there was no kill last night: Arpeg was targeted to be killed, but they couldn't do it because he was in jail.

Seems plausible. As much as Arpeg being the killer.

So, Chaotix's ability, and the jail option are not only a roleblock, but also a protection.

God Emperor

07-21-2010, 11:06

Well either way we seem to benefit from sending arpeg to jail.
Unvote; imprison: Arpeg

Secura

07-21-2010, 19:53

A little over one hour remains for votes and bids.

The current bids stand at sixteen gold for the Clasp, ten gold for the Ring. :3

Beskar

07-21-2010, 21:36

Vote: God Emperor

Susipicious minds. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q04_ClDxRsk)

Secura

07-22-2010, 00:50

The phase ended at 9pm GMT, thus I will have to discount both Beskar's vote and the late bid I received a few hours ago.

However, following a serious spate of broken rules, QuickTopic mistakes and more, I'm in half a mind of whether or not to outright end the game now because I feel that everything's in tatters currently... for me, things couldn't be going any worse in terms of the behind-the-scenes stuff.

I believed that I had made the rules crystal clear and that any PM featuring QT links stressed that you must be careful what name you're posting under, and still rules are broken and mistakes are made... if this was any standard game, I wouldn't mind, but in this game every single role has an impact and has it's enemies/allies, and these occurances are tearing apart the foundations I've worked hard at for the last two months.

This is my first small-sized game and only my second overall, and I'm really at a loss with how to proceed with this now; I feel as though the game is ruined. :/

Reenk Roink

07-22-2010, 01:21

Sorry to hear Secura :shame:, hope it's salvageable.

If the situation warrants, consider mass modkilling offending parties, even if it greatly lessens the game's length it would still be preferable to abandoning it, and it could be worked into the storyline.

Captain Blackadder

07-22-2010, 02:23

Indeed have a darkspwan incursion into Orzammer and have them all killed.

seireikhaan

07-22-2010, 03:02

You've been doing an excellent job, Secura. It would be an absolute shame to see this game have the plug pulled on it. Personally, I would advise trucking on. If disciplinary action must be taken against certain players, do it, but please, don't let the rest bear the punishment as well by ending the game. Even if you feel like the game has been "sabotaged" by the actions of certain players, we'll all still enjoy the experience more than we would if the game was ended, and, I think, you'll get more out of hosting the game by seeing it through to the end.

Secura

07-22-2010, 07:29

Thanks guys; I've really got to speak with the offending party and gauge the extent of the damage caused really, but I'm hoping that it's nothing major; it just means that one or two players now have the identity of two major roles... but if those roles die prematurely, it's of no fault but their own, no reason to punish everyone else for it as you've said. :3

I have work in a few hours and won't get home until 3:30PM GMT or so; I'll be working on the end of phase writeup as soon as I get back. It seems that, in the furore surrounding ArpeggiateTHIS' roleblock, you have all forgotten that there was a warhammer to vote on too... for shame! :P

Double A

07-22-2010, 19:48

If they do screw up so horribly bad that the game is unplayable... maybe we could restart or something without them?

And anyway, I'm gonna be gone Fri-Mon, so don't freak out over my gone-ness.

Secura

07-23-2010, 00:31

If they do screw up so horribly bad that the game is unplayable... maybe we could restart or something without them?

Restarting is not an option. :3

And anyway, I'm gonna be gone Fri-Mon, so don't freak out over my gone-ness.

Duly noted, just send in your night orders... it's likely you'll miss half the day phase and that's all, that way.

Anyways, to everyone else, the writeup will be delayed until the afternoon tomorrow, but it is currently the night phase and I will take any orders via PM. :3

Secura

07-24-2010, 10:18

End of Day Three

https://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Secura87/Dragon%20Age%20Origins/The%20Aeducan%20Succession/RoyalPalace.jpg
Inside the Throne Room

By the end of the third day, it had become clear to Duncan that the king's guests seemed to be making some sort of headway into finding Lady Dordan's killer; where before there had been baseless accusations, now there were solid arguments based upon evidence, circumstantial or otherwise. The Grey Warden cleared his throat, drawing the attention of the crowd.

"I must applaud you on your progress today", he smiled wryly, "it seems that, in your quest to find the the Lady's killer, you have set aside any claims to Reenk Roink's discarded warhammer... most commendable."

The tanned Warden handed the heavy-set weapon to his nearby second, who struggled to carry it out of the room; Duncan chuckled lightly to himself, before turning back to the guests and gesturing for a spokesperson to come forth.

Chaotix knelt before the throne, and triumphantly stated "with my efforts, we have collectively decided to throw ArpeggiateTHIS into the prison cells for the night!"

Duncan nodded silently while the crowd murmered in agreement with Chaotix; before the Grey Warden could even contemplate issuing an order to detain ArpeggiateTHIS, the palace guards had already dragged the new inmate away without protestation.

"Before we depart for the night, I believe that there is something you should see", Duncan continued, passing a handful of scrolls to the various guests, "it appears to be a request for business, perhaps one that you may consider should you have the time and coin"

You unfurl the scroll to read a neat, purposeful script:
Esteemed guests of our honourable king,

The quill is mightier than the sword; why waste your hard-earned coin on material trappings when you could spend it on information about your enemies and allies?

The Watchers will gladly exchange their information for your coin; whether it be existing information or a target of your choosing, you can be assured that our service works to a high standard and will yield results.

Simply drop a slip of paper with your target and an amount of gold that you'll part with into the Squealing Nug's tips jar and we will do the rest.

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As you prepare to sleep, you find a second scroll placed neatly upon your bedside table, and you unfurl it to read a somewhat haggard text, though you assume that this is to maintain anonymity:
LoRDs aNd lADIes!

TheRE ARe ENemIeS aboUNd AnD wE hAVe tHE MEaNs TO hAnDLe iT!

ClEAN, eFFicIENT, DEADly... tHeRe iS NO fINEr blAdE iN OrzAMMaR!

LeAVe aT leAST fIVe GOLd (tHoUGH mOrE WOuld bE nICe!) aNd A nAmE iN a deaDdrOP, aNd yOUr eNEmiEs WilL bE dEAlt wITh...

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Start of Night Three
Night will end at 12:00 GMT, 25/07/10 or sooner if I have received orders from everyone!

Imprisonment
ArpeggiateTHIS: 9 - Pinman, Renata, civplayah, Chaotix, ArpeggiateTHIS, Romanic, spL1tp3r50naL1ty, johnhughthom, God Emperor

Alive: (16/17)
TheFlax
Double A
Beskar
Pinman
Renata
civplayah
Chaotix
ArpeggiateTHIS - Imprisoned
Yaseikhaan
Khazaar
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Captain Blackadder
autolycus
johnhughthom
God Emperor

Fled into the Deep Roads:
Reenk Roink

Sincerest apologies for the late writeup... I've had a bit of a struggle with motivation to carry on since I made that last post, but I'm back on track now.

In regards to the two scrolls, you simply PM me if you wish to use their services, with an offer of gold, and I will forward it to the respective parties.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-24-2010, 11:09

*Rattles cell bars*

Thanks for letting this continue despite everything. It's a great game and it'd be a shame to end it over a few idiots and fools.

Secura

07-24-2010, 11:26

Thanks for letting this continue despite everything. It's a great game and it'd be a shame to end it over a few idiots and fools.

I currently work at a windsports centre, and recently someone crashed one of the quad bikes that we use for patrolling the beach into a building causing a few hundred pounds worth of damage; following the incident, only the senior members of staff are permitted to use them, even if lower-ranked staff (such as myself, the only woman to have done so at a competency rate on par with the men) have received full training for it... and I kinda found myself saying "why have the actions of one person ruined things for forty others?"

That same principle extends to this game; I'm not going to punish everyone for the actions of a few people, so I've just carried on...

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-24-2010, 11:42

I currently work at a windsports centre, and recently someone crashed one of the quad bikes that we use for patrolling the beach into a building causing a few hundred pounds worth of damage; following the incident, only the senior members of staff are permitted to use them, even if lower-ranked staff (such as myself, the only woman to have done so at a competency rate on par with the men) have received full training for it... and I kinda found myself saying "why have the actions of one person ruined things for forty others?"

That same principle extends to this game; I'm not going to punish everyone for the actions of a few people, so I've just carried on...

...A windsports centre, you say? Must be a cool job, even if the quadbikes are now off-bounds.

Secura

07-26-2010, 10:02

Fear not, the writeups are mostly done; I've got to organise a replacement for civplayah, if his posts in Beskar's game are anything to go by, so once that's done, you can start voting each other again! :laugh4:

Secura

07-27-2010, 00:16

Alrighty, Skooma Addict will be replacing civplayah.

I'll post the two writeups and send off results PMs in the morning... thanks for the patience. :3

Skooma Addict

07-27-2010, 01:35

Greetings...:bow:

johnhughthom

07-27-2010, 01:39

I'm afraid you've got the wrong RPG, there's no skooma in Ferelden.

Romanic

07-27-2010, 01:40

Skooma: There's no drugs in Dragon Age, don't bring your illegal substances into this game :laugh4:

johnhughthom

07-27-2010, 01:42

I do believe the term is ninja'd Romanic....

:clown:

Romanic

07-27-2010, 01:44

Boohooo. I said it first, but your post is showing first because of the timezones!

Double A

07-27-2010, 02:19

Roman got ninja'd!

Skooma Addict

07-27-2010, 03:50

Roman got ninja'd!

Blood of my ancestors! A talking nug!? What manner of sorcery is this you foul smelling creature? C'mere you little... *grabs an ominous brown bag and chases Double A*

Double A

07-27-2010, 07:14

Big surprise, Skooma's doing skooma again.

Skooma Addict

07-27-2010, 08:11

My apologies. Sometimes the stone talks to me.

My stone pipe that is...

Secura

07-27-2010, 11:07

All results PMs have been sent out, in addition to any updated role PMs; I'm going to give Skooma time to respond to my PM to him... the two writeups will be posted later tonight once I return from work. :3

Secura

07-27-2010, 20:24

End of Night Three

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In the entrance hall of the Royal Palace

A lone guard, tasked with preserving the integrity of the throne room while the residents slept, shuffled uneasily on his feet; the atmosphere of the king's regal abode had changed dramatically within the space of a few hours and, while he enjoyed working during the day and interacting with visitors, he immensely disliked the night shift. His heavy-set hazel eyes scanned the entrance hall from right-to-left; where before there had been guests arguing about matters of life and death among the warm hospitality of the palace's servants, there was now silence and a chilling sensation that shook the guard to the very core.

Seconds, minutes, hours; the guard found himself struggling to stay awake as time passed by, and even drifted off into sleep at one point until he was woken by clunking footfalls upon the nearby stone. A squat figure, clearly dwarven, had emerged from the corridors that led to the various chambers of the king's houseguests, clad from head to toe in some of the finest armour that the guard had ever seen, clearly crafted by the most skilled of the Smith's Caste. The platemail-clad dwarf nodded curtly from beneath his visor, passing the guard and heading down the opposite corridor; his pace was quick despite the weight of his armour... he had somewhere to be.

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Double A tossed and turned in his bed, struggling to sleep. He was used to having the bedspace to himself, but had found himself spending these hours with some female company of late, and she was prone to taking as much of the bed covers to keep herself warm at the expense of her lover. Exasperated, Double A climbed from off the bed and threw a thick, earthen-hued robe on, shuffling his feet to get some feeling back into them after several hours of lying down; he moved towards the stone door that led out into the corridor... perhaps a quick walk around the palace would clear his mind.

*SLAM*

The door flew open, throwing Double A backwards several feet, whereby he collided with a nearby pillar; his vision blurred and body aching, the dwarf squinted through watering eyes, attempting to make out his attacker but to no avail. Nearby, Double A's female friend had awoken with fear and surprise visible upon her pale face; in seconds she had thrown herself beneath the bed, cowering at the masked attacker that stood in the frame of the door.

Several heavy footfalls later, the assailant had stormed over to the fallen Double A; in one smooth motion, a darkened gauntlet had firmly grasped a sizeable bunch of the dwarf's woolen robes, and hurled him across the room with a loud crash. Silent in both tone and resolve, the plate-clad assailant proceeded to attack Double A with his fists, each blow magnified in force by the steel gauntlets.

The female below the bed trembled and shuffled around nervously as she listened to the violent beating that was happening around her. Her frantic movements led the construction to grind across the ground somewhat, causing a nearby leaning object to fall to the stone beside her with the heaviest thud she had ever heard; she could make out a long metallic handle and what appeared to be a solid mass of alloyed metal and stone at the end of it.

Double A hit the ground beside the weapon, having been thrown once more by the unknown attacker; his features bore an array of cuts and bruises that painted his face in hues of scarlet, blue, indigo and black, and still he maintained an aura of defiance that his foe found both amusing and worrisome.

"You picked the wrong target tonight, my friend", Double A spat bitterly, rubbing a sleeve across his blood-streaked lips; in the blink of an eye, he flicked his right foot upwards, flipping the metallic shaft upwards from the ground and into his hand... the maul's sleek handle had found it's master, fitting his grip better than any glove or gauntlet could.

The plate-clad assailant roared, unhooking his axe and hurling it towards Double A, the chain rattling in the air in the wake of the curved blade; with a deft flick of his hands, the dwarf had parried the blow with his own weapon, sending the axe hurtling off and into the ground where it stuck fast. Sensing the opportunity, Double A charged at his foe, turning a full circle before catching the distracted attacker square in the chest with a horizontal strike.

Following up on this, Double A maintained the momentum of his offense, raining down several blows with the hammer; each was met with a resounding clunk as it struck against the platemail, each was swung with as much force as the last, each kept the attacker from regaining his previous advantage. It had become clear that the battle had now shifted entirely against him, and it was with great reluctance and greater speed that the platemail assailant retrieved his weapon and fled before he was pulverised.

Double A slammed his weapon against the ground and stood triumphantly among the debris; a grin, visible even among his bushy beard, met the young woman as she crawled from beneath the bed and wrapped her arms around his waist.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-27-2010, 20:43

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In the corridors of the Royal Palace

Will the Revenant rear it's ugly head? :P

Secura

07-27-2010, 20:49

Day Four
Voting concludes at 21:00 GMT, 29/07/10

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On the streets of the Diamond Quarter

Town criers pour onto the streets as the city guards begin to light the torches, illuminating Orzammar for the day; the criers begin to shout the same message over and over to anyone who walked by.

"News of the hour! Rumours abound that Beskar has lost his possessions on a secret trip to the surface, in blantant defiance of our ancestors! The Shaperate declares it an outrage!"

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On the streets of the Commons

The merchants of Orzammar had been busy arranging their wares long before the guards had emerged; it took hours to haul equipment from homes to stalls, and then there was the presentation of it all... cuirasses fixed upon training dummies, swords propped up against walls. piles of sparkling gems and boxes lined with various tonics.

There was only one item available that day:
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Dwarven Shortsword
Previously owned by ArpeggiateTHIS
Weapon
+1 Strength
This item requires a minimum bid of two gold and can be wielded by anyone.

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In the Throne Room of the Royal Palace

King Endrin Aeducan was once again a missing presence that morning, and thus it fell to Duncan once more to usher in the guests and lead proceedings; ArpeggiateTHIS accompanied the tanned Grey Warden into the throne room and took a seat in the middle of the gathering crowd, recently released from his night in the cells.

"I am glad to see that you are all present and correct, ladies and gentlemen", Duncan began, "I have news regarding the death of Lady Dordan."

The hub-bub of the guests subsided entirely, with each person present listening intentently to the words of the human, who proceeded to continue with a solemn tone to his voice.

"While we haven't determined the exact cause of her death, we have established that there was no harm inflicted upon her body, physical or magical, but there is still much to learn... in the meantime, the king is adamant that you are getting close to the true end to the tale, so I will take my leave and allow you to debate matters further."

Duncan clapped his hands, bowed and left the throne room, leaving his two Warden companions to keep guard over the guests.
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Alive: (16/17)
TheFlax
Double A
Beskar
Pinman
Renata
civplayah Skooma Addict
Chaotix
ArpeggiateTHIS
Yaseikhaan
Khazaar
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Captain Blackadder
autolycus
johnhughthom
God Emperor

Fled into the Deep Roads:
Reenk Roink

Chaotix

07-28-2010, 01:20

This means Double A and Arpeg are both more or less cleared. I'm glad we didn't exile him, in retrospect.

Arpeg, I am still waiting on that marriage proposal, if you happen to be one of the princes. :heart:

Also, I got robbed last night. This thief has a lot of nerve to steal from an officer of the law.

Imprison: Yaseikhaan

Only until something better comes up. I think a quick review of the thread is in order.

Beskar

07-28-2010, 02:04

Imprison: Johnhughthom

I have sense some scummy vibes coming off him,

Skooma Addict

07-28-2010, 05:15

Imprison: Johnhughthom

I have sense some scummy vibes coming off him,

Which are different then the ones coming off of you? They seep through your pores like a pile of crushed lyrium through the stone. The fine Lady Dordan was indeed murdered but are we not all brothers of the stone? As such we should be more...savoir-faire in our accusations, especially when aiming them at such a fine(available?) lass as this john. I suppose that is a lesson that is lost on a commoner such as yourself.

Skooma Addict

07-28-2010, 05:28

And what's this about you visiting the surface? All dwarves are taught how such acts are strictly forbidden. If these accusations be true, your name shall be stricken from the shaperate. Let us pray that this claim is nothing more then mere rumor, conjured by the hoopleheads of dust town.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-28-2010, 12:33

Ahhh, lovely fresh Orzammarian air. The finest you can get without going outside! With this fiasco over, I hope that you'll look upon my name with grace in future.

Also, I'd like you to note the Dwarven Shortsword that I have so kindly sold to the traders. I, for one, do not wish to attack anybody in this grave period of time. I would hope that one of the Wardens would purchase my sword to prevent it from being used to ill intent.

Secura

07-28-2010, 13:17

Arpeg, I am still waiting on that marriage proposal, if you happen to be one of the princes. :heart:

You two would make a cute couple. :3

the hoopleheads of dust town.

You like that word, huh? :P

I would hope that one of the Wardens would purchase my sword to prevent it from being used to ill intent.

Having read this, I'd like to add that if you don't have a weapon and you're sat on a stack of gold, why not buy the sword? A blade doesn't always serve for an offensive approach...

autolycus

07-28-2010, 15:19

With no better leads, I say imprison:khazaar. He's been awfully quiet.
Granted, so have I, but with Lylat Wars done, I should have more time for this.

Romanic

07-28-2010, 17:03

This axe-wielding assailant is so bad at killing people that I am starting to suspect my old grandmother! :grin:

Chaotix, did you jail someone last night?

imprison: split. Let's put someone in jail even if we don't have a good suspect. It's non-lethal and it helps figuring stuff, so split because of his voting behavior last round.

Secura

07-28-2010, 17:21

Reading this is immensely humourous, to say the least.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-28-2010, 17:24

So yeah, let's Imprison: Beskar for this turn as punishment for going outside.

One would wonder exactly WHY he went outside in the first place. the sky could collapse on all of us, you know!

Secura

07-28-2010, 17:28

Not many people posting at the moment... come on guys!

Furthermore, there's a sword to be bid on and there were two requests for employment in the last end of day writeup, so get PMing! :<

Skooma Addict

07-28-2010, 18:45

Not many people posting at the moment... come on guys!

Very well m'lady. Imprison: Beskar

Two questions:

How long does someone remain in prison?
Do they need to be voted back out of prison?
Do people remain in exile until death or can they be brought back into Orzammar somehow?
Is our host Secura a fellow Dwarf?
Do I need to learn how to count?

I'm guessing there are game mechanics that decide who gets exiled and who gets put to death based on Reenk's lynching, granted he was a member of the legion already. Maybe only legion/wardens get exiled?

Beskar

07-28-2010, 18:47

One would wonder exactly WHY he went outside in the first place. the sky could collapse on all of us, you know!

The Towncrier is a fool, who tells tales. If his allegions were indeed correct, I wouldn't be here right now.

Anyone who goes to the surface are not permitted to allow re-entry.

Secura

07-28-2010, 18:52

Two questions

It's a few more than two, but I'll gladly answer them. :3

How long does someone remain in prison?
Imprisoning lasts until the following day phase.

Do they need to be voted back out of prison?
They are automatically released.

Do people remain in exile until death or can they be brought back into Orzammar somehow?
Exile means that player has been removed from the game; I'm reluctant to kill some characters as they could be used in future stories. :3

Is our host Secura a fellow Dwarf?
Let's not turn this into a racial debate, good sir!

Do I need to learn how to count?
Maths is a critical part of the curriculum!

Skooma Addict

07-28-2010, 19:03

The Towncrier is a fool, who tells tales. If his allegions were indeed correct, I wouldn't be here right now.

Anyone who goes to the surface are not permitted to allow re-entry.

Perhaps, but a night in the barracks will give us time to sort this out, as well as possibly stopping you from going back to the surface lands.

TheFlax

07-28-2010, 19:24

Perhaps, but a night in the barracks will give us time to sort this out, as well as possibly stopping you from going back to the surface lands.

Perhaps you should instead spend the night there?

Imprison: Skooma Addict

Beskar

07-28-2010, 19:34

unvote; imprison: Skooma Addict

I smell the stench of ale from him, perhaps a night in the cell will allow him clear his mind.

johnhughthom

07-28-2010, 19:39

Imprison: Beskar

Either you went to the surface or somebody is trying to smear your character, why would that be?

Beskar

07-28-2010, 19:47

Either you went to the surface or somebody is trying to smear your character, why would that be?

[It is obvious that I didn't go to the Surface, due to Game-lore. ]

Renata

07-28-2010, 20:20

So the rumor is false?

Beskar

07-28-2010, 20:28

So the rumor is false?

Indeed that is correct, madam. If I ever went to the surface, I forfeit my rights of my cast, becoming a surface dweller, unable to return.

TheFlax

07-28-2010, 20:34

Indeed that is correct, madam. If I ever went to the surface, I forfeit my rights of my cast, becoming a surface dweller, unable to return.

Unless you are a casteless, have we checked you for tattoos? :clown:

God Emperor

07-28-2010, 21:23

So two people in the clear.. close to at least.
Imprison: Beskar , as we are still missing better clues

God Emperor

07-28-2010, 21:26

Lady Secura what is the highest bid on the sword at the moment?

Secura

07-28-2010, 22:05

Lady Secura what is the highest bid on the sword at the moment?

I will let you know once I've returned home and checked my spreadsheet; can't do that at Beskar's!

Skooma Addict

07-29-2010, 00:34

Indeed that is correct, madam. If I ever went to the surface, I forfeit my rights of my cast, becoming a surface dweller, unable to return.
Assuming you were caught doing so. There are surface dwellers who maintain contact with Orzammar to engage in trade and the like. The crier said it was done in secret. Is there any way to prove you have not forsaken the stone?

Chaotix

07-29-2010, 03:43

Unimprison, Imprison: johnhughthom

john is blatantly taking the easy vote and bandwagoning for Beskar. He hasn't exactly been acting like the exemplary dwarf lately, either. I think he's the best suspect we have so far; much better than a victim of rumors or a stumbling drunk.

To whoever asked me before- no, I didn't imprison anyone personally, I wanted to be sure of Arpeg's alignment since his innocence was highly in question.

Khazaar

07-29-2010, 07:07

@Autolurkus: Thanks for your vote of confidence. I´m sure not doing much in the Starfox game took some of your precious time away for this game ;-) Looks to me like a low profile cruisingvote.

@Chaotix: How can you be sure of aTHIS alignment when nothing has happened the last few rounds, there was only one attack and that took place before aTHIS was imprisoned. Did he finally take your hand in marriage?

Skooma Addict

07-29-2010, 07:40

*End Scene*

Activity seems to be dwindling now that I've joined the game... I seem to have that effect. :shame:

*Begin Scene*

Bah! Where is yer pride? You shortbeards are as timid as those dangly surface dwellers! Open your mouths brothers of the stone and give a great dwarven bellow! Speak your minds lest mistakes be made, and chances of failure be increased. The noble aTHIS along with myself and others accused the one named beskar of severe misconduct, while the lovely chaotix accuses the lady john of treachery. What say the rest of you lot? Let the ancestors will be done.

Splitpersonality

07-29-2010, 09:07

Imprision: Split

I liked romanic's argument :shrug:

seireikhaan

07-29-2010, 09:34

Imprison: Beskar

First you go to the surface and now you slander the honorable crier?

johnhughthom

07-29-2010, 09:49

john is blatantly taking the easy vote and bandwagoning for Beskar.

No I'm not, I was mainly asking why he would be the target of such lies, which he deliberately neglected to answer.

He hasn't exactly been acting like the exemplary dwarf lately, either.

Oh? Well in what way have I been acting?

Secura

07-29-2010, 10:37

Activity seems to be dwindling now that I've joined the game... I seem to have that effect. :shame:

This is actually my fault, I think.

In some role PMs, I wasn't particularly clear about personal goals or abilities that pertained to achieving said goals, which has led to either strategic use or outright reluctance in regards to said abilities; thus, you're seeing a game where there's been a single lynch and two failed kills, but very more. I've been PMing players and filling them in on the why's and whatfor's, explaining personal goals a little more... if you need any answers regarding your own and you're unsure, PM me.

I'm hoping that we'll see a little more activity once things begin to escalate and the bodycount rises. :3

Beskar

07-29-2010, 15:06

Imprison: Beskar

First you go to the surface and now you slander the honorable crier?

I shall meet him in the Arena, for a battle of honour.

Renata

07-29-2010, 19:51

vote: johnhughthom

Secura

07-29-2010, 19:53

Voting ends in one hour, folks. :3

Pinman

07-29-2010, 21:45

If I'm not too late, we can Imprison: Beskar.

I don't have any good reasoning for this vote, but I'd prefer not to kill anybody. At least until some of us start dying.

Beskar

07-29-2010, 22:44

I don't mind, Imprison prevents me from being night killed. I am happy to sit in safety, even if the cell is cold. I am an innocent man, I have nothing to worry about. Only person who should be worried is that Crier, as he is a fraud.

Secura

07-30-2010, 00:24

If I'm not too late, we can Imprison: Beskar

I can't count this vote as it is forty-five minutes after the deadline... sorry, treacle. :3

I'm going to draft up a writeup in the morning before work; feel free to send in your night orders, though! ^_^

Beskar

07-30-2010, 00:38

No I'm not, I was mainly asking why he would be the target of such lies, which he deliberately neglected to answer

[No I didn't... anyway, how am I susposed to know why some one randomly makes a false statement, I will demonstrate -
Did you know that Johnhughtom names his cats after Beethoven symphonies?]

johnhughthom

07-30-2010, 09:06

[No I didn't... anyway, how am I susposed to know why some one randomly makes a false statement, I will demonstrate -
Did you know that Johnhughtom names his cats after Beethoven symphonies?]

[Not the same, and you know it. Naughty Beskie, I still miss Consecration of the House Overture...]

Secura

07-30-2010, 10:09

Did you know that Johnhughtom names his cats after Beethoven symphonies?

It's like you're setting up for a Fur Elise joke here... :P

Secura

07-30-2010, 10:53

End of Day Four

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Inside the Throne Room

Without King Endrin or Duncan to officiate proceedings, the guests had descended into all-out verbal conflict with Beskar being the principal aim of their anger and fear; using the town criers as a basis for their arguments, they levelled several accusations at the dwarf which he attempted to swat away with solid reasoning, with somewhat limited success.

"Why would I go to the surface when it's strictly against our laws?", he stated firmly, "I value my caste and do not wish to relinquish my rights!"

"So then, you are saying that the rumour is false?", Renata asked, eyes narrowing at Beskar with a mix of suspicion and surprise.

"Precisely!", the accused dwarf boomed authoritatively, "someone is casting aspersions on my good name!"

The crowd returned to their tumultuous talking; Beskar could hear some murmurs of agreement and support on his behalf, but there seemed to be a growing consensus that a night in the cells might be the best option until the claims against him were proven to be true or false.

"The thing that I don't understand", johnhughthom said quietly, "is why someone would do this?"

Beskar snorted derisively, a disapproving look evident in his eyes and curled lips. He had a feeling that his fellow guests might turn on him eventually; there was a sense of inevitability in it, like the metal of a newly-sharpened blade eventually dulling over time or the painful death of a dwarf tainted by darkspawn blood in battle... he had, in all honesty, expected it sooner.

"Is it not obvious? Someone doesn't like me!" he roared as the two Grey Wardens accosted him from the room, each holding one of the dwarf's arms; the guests could still hear his indignant protestations as he left the palace, and it was with a heavy heart and tired mind that they all trudged off to their respective resting places for the night.

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Start of Night Four
Night will end at 19:00 GMT, 31/07/10 or sooner if I have received orders from everyone!

Imprisonment
Beskar: 5 - Skooma Addict, ArpeggiateTHIS, Yaseikhaan, johnhughthom, God Emperor

Alive: (16/17)
TheFlax
Double A
Beskar - Imprisoned
Pinman
Renata
civplayah Skooma Addict
Chaotix
ArpeggiateTHIS
Yaseikhaan
Khazaar
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Captain Blackadder
autolycus
johnhughthom
God Emperor

Fled into the Deep Roads
Reenk Roink - Legionnaire Roldim

Secura

07-31-2010, 19:43

The round will be extended up to midnight GMT; I'm still waiting on a few orders. >.<

Secura

08-01-2010, 00:03

Alrighty, night orders are all in (bar one person, you know who you are!); I'll get to work on a writeup and polish off the one from the previous night phase... they'll be up sometime tomorrow. :3

As an additional note, I've changed my mind regarding how end-game performance is determined; you'll notice in your role PMs that each goal (victory, personal or survival) carries a percentage rating that says how much it is worth to a final score... I'm going to utilise a points system instead after seeing how much sense it made in Lylat Wars and some other games I looked back over.

This shouldn't have any significant impact on how the game plays out, and it should make final standings alot more clear. :3

Secura

08-01-2010, 20:59

End of Night Four

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Tucked up in bed...

Much to Secura's chagrin, the night passes by without incident, leaving sixteen people to assemble before King Endrin later in the day.

Romanic

08-01-2010, 22:25

Wow Night 4 and still no murder!

....and they lived happily ever after? :laugh4:

Alrighty, night orders are all in (bar one person, you know who you are!);That ^ plus the fact that we have no kill... Let's see who was inactive... :smug2:

Captain Blackadder has not voted for 2 days.
Double A and Khazaar missed the last vote.

vote: Captain Blackadder

No more Disneyland, let's kill someone! :devil: Maybe the traitors will feel some pressure if they are threatened by our methods.

@Chaotix: Has our jailor imprisoned someone last night?

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-01-2010, 22:40

Thief! Lowlife! Scumbag! I've been robbed!

Which one of you did it? What say you, Vote: Godemperor?

@Chaotix: Has our jailor imprisoned someone last night?

That would be interesting to know. Chaotix, speak up!

Secura

08-01-2010, 22:43

You guys could let me get the day phase posted first... >.<

I'm still chopping and changing the Double A attack from Night Three. xD

God Emperor

08-01-2010, 22:48

Chaotix was stolen from yesterday, and he is known to us as being an important person in our investigation. This may mean that the thief stealing from him has no intention on watching the town finding the killer and our enemy may be amongst the paupers. It would at least make sense to place a thief amongst the poor. Johnhughtom was claiming earlier on that he was very poor, and as it is, I don't see we have better option that to remove the beggars one by one.
vote: Johnhugthom

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-01-2010, 23:00

God Emperor

08-01-2010, 23:18

How dare you simply disregard my outcry! I shall ask you again, Godemperor, what say you of my allegations?

Well you are eager to get a respons so I shall grant you one. You have been stolen from and I am sorry to hear that. However I did not find anything constructive in your post to reply on but an outcry of blind thirst for vengeance, that happened to land on me. If you have a better idea of whom we should lynch (with arguments backing them up) then do let us know.

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-01-2010, 23:25

Well you are eager to get a respons so I shall grant you one. You have been stolen from and I am sorry to hear that. However I did not find anything constructive in your post to reply on but an outcry of blind thirst for vengeance, that happened to land on me. If you have a better idea of whom we should lynch (with arguments backing them up) then do let us know.

Touche, although I did notice that nowhere have you protested your innocence. Why is that so, Godemperor?

Beskar

08-01-2010, 23:32

Because he is the dirty thief. Vote: God Emperor

Secura

08-01-2010, 23:35

Day Five
Voting concludes at 00:01 GMT, 04/08/10

https://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Secura87/Dragon%20Age%20Origins/The%20Aeducan%20Succession/DiamondQuarter.jpg
On the streets of the Diamond Quarter

Town criers pour onto the streets as the city guards begin to light the torches, illuminating Orzammar for the day; the criers begin to shout the same message over and over to anyone who walked by.

"News of the hour! Beskar receiving special treatment? After his arrest, many speculate as to why he received such a light sentence!"

Other criers carried a different message, which they repeated with the same gusto as always.

"In other news, Chief Investigator Barka declares the discovery of lyrium dust being smuggled to the surface through Orzammar. More on this as the story develops!"

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https://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Secura87/Dragon%20Age%20Origins/The%20Aeducan%20Succession/OrzammarCommons.jpg
On the streets of the Commons

The merchants of Orzammar had been busy arranging their wares long before the guards had emerged; it took hours to haul equipment from homes to stalls, and then there was the presentation of it all... cuirasses fixed upon training dummies, swords propped up against walls. piles of sparkling gems and boxes lined with various tonics.

There was, however, nothing of significant interest on sale that day, though the merchants were always willing to buy.

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https://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Secura87/Dragon%20Age%20Origins/The%20Aeducan%20Succession/RoyalPalace.jpg
In the Throne Room of the Royal Palace

As the guests assembled in the throne room, it became clear that they would not be joined by the king or the Grey Warden known as Duncan; without hesistation, they resumed the debating of the last few days with a renewed sense that they were closing in on their goal, stopping only for the return of Beskar from his night in the cells.

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Alive: (16/17)
TheFlax
Double A
Beskar
Pinman
Renata
civplayah Skooma Addict
Chaotix
ArpeggiateTHIS
Yaseikhaan
Khazaar
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Captain Blackadder
autolycus
johnhughthom
God Emperor

Fled into the Deep Roads:
Reenk Roink - Legionnaire Roldim

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The delayed writeup for Night Three has been completed, and can be viewed here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129259-Dragon-Age-The-Aeducan-Succession&p=2528071&viewfull=1#post2528071) for those who'd like some more narrative to read!

johnhughthom

08-01-2010, 23:40

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-02-2010, 00:09

Beskar rumoured to be going to the surface, then rumours of lyrium smuggling eh? Somebody certainly has it in for you. It seems curious that we are fixated on finding a lowly sneak thief when we have bigger problems, we are no closer to finding the murderer (s?) in our midst. What has been stolen so far? Random items for their value, or is there a more sinister aspect to the thefts?

I didn't lose items, merely the gold I have.

Indeed, you could say that this theft has served as a distraction. Perhaps you could shed some light on any possible suspects?

Captain Blackadder

08-02-2010, 05:26

Beskar rumoured to be going to the surface, then rumours of lyrium smuggling eh? Somebody certainly has it in for you. It seems curious that we are fixated on finding a lowly sneak thief when we have bigger problems, we are no closer to finding the murderer (s?) in our midst. What has been stolen so far? Random items for their value, or is there a more sinister aspect to the thefts?

Could this mean that you are the thief? ;) I agree though this thief is a secondary priority the murder is far more pressing. ANyway sorry for my lack of posting uni just started back for me and i am writing up my own game.

God Emperor

08-02-2010, 10:05

Touche, although I did notice that nowhere have you protested your innocence. Why is that so, Godemperor?

Because if I defended myself at every term, I would be Panicking and that is very suspicious according to many. However not doing so, apparently also is a sensitive matter. You seem almost eager to have something on me, and it makes me wonder.. Do you have some mission or grudge against my character :inquisitive:

God Emperor

08-02-2010, 10:12

Also if we need to find new suspects, there may, with the imprisonment results, be some guilty people amongst our inmates. Skooma addict was imprisoned last night? (not perfectly sure how to read Secura's imprisoned list)

I personally beleive ArpeggiateTHIS to be innocent. Who had you Chaotix sent to prison durring the game?

Romanic

08-02-2010, 10:44

Also if we need to find new suspects, there may, with the imprisonment ressults, be some guilty people amongst our inmates. Skooma addict was imprisoned last night? (not perfectly sure how to read Secura's imprisoned list)

Beskar was imprisoned last night. People that Chaotix put in jail will not appear in the writeups, and we won't know about it unless the jailor or the prisoner tells us.

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-02-2010, 12:43

Because if I defended myself at every term, I would be Panicking and that is very suspicious according to many. However not doing so, apparently also is a sensitive matter. You seem almost eager to have something on me, and it makes me wonder.. Do you have some mission or grudge against my character :inquisitive:

Not unless you actually are the thief that stole from me! Guards! Guards! Have this man thrown in the Deep Roads!

autolycus

08-02-2010, 14:52

I know we're supposed to be trying to find Lady Dordan's killer, but we have no idea of cause of death, and the murderer hasn't struck again. I think this purse snatcher is as good a place to start as any. Perhaps he'll lead us to other's in the criminal underbelly of this august city who we can force to reveal the murderer to us. Vote: johnhughthom.

johnhughthom

08-02-2010, 19:32

Thief! Lowlife! Scumbag! I've been robbed!

Which one of you did it? What say you, Vote: Godemperor?

Because he is the dirty thief. Vote: God Emperor

Is there any evidence behind these accusations against God Emperor?

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-02-2010, 19:35

Is there any evidence behind these accusations against God Emperor?

To be perfectly honest: not really.

To sum up my accusation: there's nobody else I can point the finger at, and Godemperor seems to appear and disappear at just the right moments.

Beskar

08-02-2010, 19:50

Well, I have a good collection of who ti might not be. Namely the ones who got robbed.

I want that theif along with the town crier, hanging from the gallows as bait for the darkspawn.

johnhughthom

08-02-2010, 19:53

Well, I have a useless collection of who it might not be. Namely the ones who claim they got robbed.

I want that thief along with the town crier, hanging from the gallows as bait for the darkspawn.

Fixed. Also fixed some poor spelling. :clown:

Renata

08-02-2010, 20:23

vote: johnhughthom

I don't get this game.

johnhughthom

08-02-2010, 20:28

vote: johnhughthom

I don't get this game.

OK, so long as you have a good reason for voting me. :rolleyes:

Everybody given up on imprisonment then?

Secura

08-02-2010, 20:28

I don't get this game.

Hopefully this (http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Age_Wiki) will help... :<

Beskar

08-02-2010, 20:42

8-10-8 is John's special code number.

Reenk Roink

08-02-2010, 22:19

My only regret since fleeing and beginning to partake in the previously forbidden hookers and blow is that I did not see to it that Renata was killed.

I am following this thread for Secura's writeups and the little updates are scattered all over the place so I can clearly see Renata's evil posts where she makes many throwaway statements and accusations all throughout the round but waits till a bunch of votes are on one person before selecting her vote...

Secura

08-02-2010, 22:21

I am following this thread for Secura's writeups

You can use the opening post to navigate to various writeups now. ^_^

Skooma Addict

08-02-2010, 23:29

You can use the opening post to navigate to various writeups now. ^_^

*And a thousand nugs rejoiced!*

I'm assuming the sway towards john is that he may be the thief do to the fact he stated he was poor, correct? Sound reasoning for catching the thief but a lower class/clanless dreg from Orzammar's underbelly wouldn't be able to gain access to the diamond district and more prominent areas of Orzammar, nothing was stolen from the deceased. Not to mention we still have no clue what killed the lady Dordan that left no superficial physical evidence. My first guess would be magic but that would mean she was killed by someone or something other then a dwarf. Poison's another option.

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-02-2010, 23:41

*And a thousand nugs rejoiced!*

I'm assuming the sway towards john is that he may be the thief do to the fact he stated he was poor, correct? Sound reasoning for catching the thief but a lower class/clanless dreg from Orzammar's underbelly wouldn't be able to gain access to the diamond district and more prominent areas of Orzammar, nothing was stolen from the deceased. Not to mention we still have no clue what killed the lady Dordan that left no superficial physical evidence. My first guess would be magic but that would mean she was killed by someone or something other then a dwarf. Poison's another option.

If I'm drawing conclusions based on the events of the game, I'd probably say she had a heart attack and so died of natural causes. Everybody lived happily ever after. Apart from the thief, who got hung from Orzammar Palace by his testes.

johnhughthom

08-02-2010, 23:53

Here comes the WIFOM!!!!

If I was the thief why would I have brought attention to my lack of wealth, kept the focus on the thief and questioned God Emperor as the thief?

Also, the fact that I was poor doesn't make me some duster. I am of the noble class thank you very much.

Chaotix

08-03-2010, 01:26

I tried to imprison john, but I "got sick" and couldn't do it. I assume it was some sort of roleblock, and since it hit me, probably a mafia's roleblock.

Make of that what you will. Beskar was in prison and there was no kill, but the same happened for Arpeg last time and he wound up cleared. Add that to the strong possibility of the mafia rolebloacking me, and the case on Beskar is flimsy.

Vote: johnhughthom

Double A

08-03-2010, 01:49

Hold on, everyone. Why are you voting for jht? Even if he is a thief, which I have seen no evidence to, God Emperor acts way more scummy. He does that thing where "if I was mafia, wouldn't I be panicking? Since I am not panicking, I therefore am not evil, so you should vote for someone else." I always think about this when I'm mafia, but don't do it because it's so obvious Hong Kong Phooey could point it out.

vote: God Emperor

autolycus

08-03-2010, 02:11

Chaotix, did anyone know you were planning on blocking jht?

Splitpersonality

08-03-2010, 03:08

Imprision: JHT

I believe this to be a better test than straight out killing him. I do not find any case particularly damning.

seireikhaan

08-03-2010, 03:46

Vote: Johnhughthom

For the wifomiest wifom in all of wifom-dom.

Pinman

08-03-2010, 05:17

Imprison: JHT

I stand by my position that imprisoning is a better option.

Double A

08-03-2010, 07:18

Well, it's obvious you guys think jht is a bigger threat than God Emperor, so maybe I'm wrong. That doesn't mean I'm going to try to kill him, however.

unvote; imprison: jht

Skooma Addict

08-03-2010, 07:52

Khazaar

08-03-2010, 08:19

Do we receive any information from the public imprisonment? I presume the idea is to keep chaotix from beeing blocked at night...

Imprison: Jht

Secura

08-03-2010, 08:58

Mid-Day Update

https://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Secura87/Dragon%20Age%20Origins/The%20Aeducan%20Succession/RoyalPalace.jpg
In the Throne Room of the Royal Palace...

No sooner had Pinman voiced his opinion, he doubled over in agony with both hands clutched at his chest; his vision dimmed, his limbs became heavy and sluggish, his body was giving up. Within a matter of seconds, he collapsed to the ground, ceasing to move... dead.

The guests all backed away in shock, forming a distanced circle from the fallen Pinman; they did not notice the doors of the throne room fly open, nor the return of the tanned Grey Warden until he moved past the crowd and knelt down beside the body.

"It appears I was too late" panted a visibly short-of-breath Duncan, "I should have acted sooner..."

With a heavy heart and the assitance of two nearby guards, Duncan lifted the lifeless form of Pinman from the cold stone and left the throne room; the guests were left to make sense of what had just happened.

Captain Blackadder

08-03-2010, 11:19

I do not wish for jht to die I think ge is the more scummy of the two thus I will

imprison JHT

johnhughthom

08-03-2010, 11:42

A noble? Can you prove such a claim?

Why would you ask me to prove something you know full well I can't?

Captain Blackadder

08-03-2010, 12:27

Why would you ask me to prove something you know full well I can't?

Really you are nobility?

Khazaar

08-03-2010, 12:33

Mid-Day Update

No sooner had Pinman voiced his opinion, he doubled over in agony with both hands clutched at his chest; his vision dimmed, his limbs became heavy and sluggish, his body was giving up. Within a matter of seconds, he collapsed to the ground, ceasing to move... dead.

The guests all backed away in shock, forming a distanced circle from the fallen Pinman; they did not notice the doors of the throne room fly open, nor the return of the tanned Grey Warden until he moved past the crowd and knelt down beside the body.

"It appears I was too late" panted a visibly short-of-breath Duncan, "I should have acted sooner..."

With a heavy heart and the assitance of two nearby guards, Duncan lifted the lifeless form of Pinman from the cold stone and left the throne room; the guests were left to make sense of what had just happened.

Umm, was that a WOG or something?

johnhughthom

08-03-2010, 12:35

Umm, was that a WOG or something?

Seeing as he posted 3 1/2 hours previously it seems unlikely.

Really you are nobility?

I am now.

Romanic

08-03-2010, 12:35

Umm, was that a WOG or something?

No, most likely a midday kill, like we've seen in many games on CFC. Pinman has not done anything to warrant a WOG, he hasn't missed any vote.

Finally some action!!! :smash:

God Emperor

08-03-2010, 12:36

Johnhughtom there is a way for you to clear yourself, or at least be very close to. Let's asume that we have a thief we would like to have removed and a mafia. We know the theif stole from Chaotix, meaning that the thief is most likely not on the "good guys" site. The mafia is naturally not on the good guys site either. It wouldn't surprise me Secura used the same text for all townies victory condition, and therefore if you can paste your main victory condition here in this threat and if it matches the townies (we should have many to confirm that it matches) then there is a good chance you are a townie yourself.

I spoke with Secura and this is not against the rules.

johnhughthom

08-03-2010, 12:42

My main victory condition states: ACHIEVED!

:mellow:

Romanic

08-03-2010, 12:43

I am now.

No!!!! You did not.....?!

http://www.myemoticons.com/emoticons/images/msn/special-events/wedding.gif

Nobody invited me! :beam:

johnhughthom

08-03-2010, 12:51

God Emperor

08-03-2010, 12:53

My God Romanic... we are trying to catch a killer :p

Johnhughtom you have no victory condition that ties you to the town? If not, then I am sorry, even though you apparently just got married, you are too dangerous to be left alive:dunce2:

Romanic

08-03-2010, 12:57

A midday kill is interesting, it means that this killer cannot be roleblocked by jail at night. He's possibly a vigilante, or he could be Lady Dordan's killer (she could both have been killed by poison, Pinman as well).

Guards! Bring this corpse to the morgue, I want to know who this person is asap!

Romanic

08-03-2010, 13:02

Of course I'm spoofing about my VCs, that's my personal goal, Romanic almost worked it out.

My Victory Conditions:

As mafia it is your goal to kill all the smelly little noble dwarves, answering any inane and pointless requests as sarcastically as possible.

Oh wait, you wanted my cover role? Or did you just want to help the scum forge a pm in the event they don't have a cover?

Someone really needs to work the current tally before posting insanities in red characters. :smug2:

hint:
5 Lynch JHT
4 Imprison JHT
3 Lynch God Emperor
1 Lynch Captain Blackadder

johnhughthom

08-03-2010, 13:05

I would rather point out the silliness of an approach than survive by feeding the bad guys new information. :shrug:

Secura

08-03-2010, 13:50

It wouldn't surprise me Secura used the same text for all townies victory condition

I think someone's trying to say that I'm lazy... :P

Beskar

08-03-2010, 15:19

While she is snarky and annoying people, she is just that. It might be a distraction from the "God Emperor" to get more attention on Johnanna. Go after the self-titled "God Emperor", not Johnanna hugthom.

Johnanna Hughtom is townie role.

Pinman

08-03-2010, 15:27

Interesting.

Well, I wouldnt set too much store by my death. I doubt the mafia killed me.

Romanic

08-03-2010, 15:29

unvote: Captain Blackadder; imprison: JHT

If he's a townie, we cannot kill him.

Renata

08-03-2010, 15:51

Well, if you say so, Beskar, that must make it true.

unvote, imprison JHT

Beskar

08-03-2010, 16:11

Well, if you say so, Beskar, that must make it true.

In the beginning, she hinted at being a female, perhaps a noble hunter. There are other hints and clues. Later on now:

"Really you are nobility?"
"I am now."

This clearly indicates he was a noble hunter, and thus recently married a noble, and rocking the bedroom with them. I feel sorry for the noble who took Johnanna on.

autolycus

08-03-2010, 16:53

Beskar makes sense. Unvote, Vote: God Emperor

Renata

08-03-2010, 16:59

In the beginning, he hinted at being a female, perhaps a noble hunter. There are other hints and clues. Later on now:

"Really you are nobility?"
"I am now."

This clearly indicates he was a noble hunter, and thus recently married a noble, and rocking the bedroom with them. I feel sorry for the noble who took John on.

How does that make him a town role?

seireikhaan

08-03-2010, 18:07

Well, goody. Looks like we'll once again not be lynching someone in this game of mafia....

I fail to see how being a noble hunter makes JHT necessarily innocent. Doesn't necessarily make him guilty either, but at this point, I'm just tired of seeing the town spinning its wheels doing nothing. That, plus Secura's little warning at the start of the game kinda makes me doubtful about anyone "proven not guilty".

EDIT: As an additional note, I'll reiterate something else; be careful who you reveal to. This is Orzammar's Diamond Quarter, rife with deceit and betrayal... those who you consider your allies or your kin may not stay that way, and even the most trusted of allies can become the most feared of enemies.

Beskar

08-03-2010, 18:25

How does that make him a town role?

It means his mission was most likely to marry a noble, also if you look back, there was an apparent noble who wanted to marry a female. You can imagine the 1+1 going on.

Since the make-up of the game seems pretty straight forward, there is only one mafia, the person accused of doing the first murder, if you go onto Yaseikhaan's quote of Secura, it is pretty much, lets say a noble kills another noble, thinking they were the original murderer, than this noble is now a mafia, because he murdered some one due to breaking the law.

The problem is with this game, the town is an organ of society, and there are no police officers, and you pretty much trying to work out who killed who, plus there is no way to actually tell who did anything, other than real life.

Obviously there are the watchers, but if the mafia doesn't kill anyone, then what is the point? We randomly go around imprisioning people per infinity? Also, there are plenty of neutral roles, which are simply "I go and do this random thing which has a story effect" which possibly can turn into mafia if they killed someone or similar.

A noble hunter has no reason to kill anyone, their objective is probably "stay alive to make babies" and marry a noble.

So basically all the roles has missions similar to the above.

Ultimately: "pfft", the game is unending unless we random vote off a bunch of people, then there are choices like john, which are pretty pointless to vote off.

TheFlax

08-03-2010, 18:28

I have good reason to seriously doubt that JHT is a noble hunter.

Beskar

08-03-2010, 18:33

Then what are those reasons? I have good reason to serious suggest that JHT is a noble hunter, especially as I know who they married as well.

TheFlax

08-03-2010, 18:36

Then what are those reasons? I have good reason to serious suggest that JHT is a noble hunter, especially as I know who they married as well.

ArpTHIS or someone else?

Beskar

08-03-2010, 18:38

You guessed correctly.

TheFlax

08-03-2010, 18:43

Then I was right.

Beskar

08-03-2010, 18:48

Right in what? How would that make either ArpegTHIS or Johnanne mafia? Since Arpeg is a self-confessed noble, who was looking for some one, Johnanne is a noble hunter...

TheFlax

08-03-2010, 18:50

Right in what? How would that make either ArpegTHIS or Johnanne mafia? Since Arpeg is a self-confessed noble, who was looking for some one, Johnanne is a noble hunter...

Not saying mafia, I know who is with ArpTHIS and it is not JHT.

Beskar

08-03-2010, 18:54

Not saying mafia, I know who is with ArpTHIS and it is not JHT.

Actually, this might be possible. A lower caste female is deemed a courtesan as such, which is why Bhelen in the game, wants to change the law so he can marry the Commoner origins sister. Either way, I still know Johnanne is with ArpegTHIS.

TheFlax

08-03-2010, 18:57

Actually, this might be possible. A lower caste female is deemed a courtesan as such, which is why Bhelen in the game, wants to change the law so he can marry the Commoner origins sister. Either way, I still know Johnanne is with ArpegTHIS.

This is correct, save that you have the wrong person.

Renata

08-03-2010, 19:06

Are congratulations in order, Flax?

TheFlax

08-03-2010, 19:11

You should always be congratulating me.

Renata

08-03-2010, 19:12

Good wedding night, then? Hubba hubba.

TheFlax

08-03-2010, 19:20

Wedding? Me? Nah, I just bring kindred souls together.

Renata

08-03-2010, 19:35

You're no fun. :)

johnhughthom

08-03-2010, 19:41

Beskar

08-03-2010, 20:05

Really Beskar? Three hours? It took you three hours to think up that joke name and edit it in?

I retract all I have said. Kill Johnhughtom.

Unvote; Vote: Johnhughthom

Skooma Addict

08-03-2010, 20:15

It means his mission was most likely to marry a noble, also if you look back, there was an apparent noble who wanted to marry a female. You can imagine the 1+1 going on.

Since the make-up of the game seems pretty straight forward, there is only one mafia, the person accused of doing the first murder, if you go onto Yaseikhaan's quote of Secura, it is pretty much, lets say a noble kills another noble, thinking they were the original murderer, than this noble is now a mafia, because he murdered some one due to breaking the law.

The problem is with this game, the town is an organ of society, and there are no police officers, and you pretty much trying to work out who killed who, plus there is no way to actually tell who did anything, other than real life.

Obviously there are the watchers, but if the mafia doesn't kill anyone, then what is the point? We randomly go around imprisoning people per infinity? Also, there are plenty of neutral roles, which are simply "I go and do this random thing which has a story effect" which possibly can turn into mafia if they killed someone or similar.

A noble hunter has no reason to kill anyone, their objective is probably "stay alive to make babies" and marry a noble.

So basically all the roles has missions similar to the above.

Ultimately: "pfft", the game is unending unless we random vote off a bunch of people, then there are choices like john, which are pretty pointless to vote off.

You make a lot of sense with this post, however I would like to point out that Chaotix claims to be a officer of the law so there is some police presence here. I'd prefer to go after the killer rather then the thief but we don't even know for sure IF anyone killed the lady Dordan. I don't see any evidence of foul play by any of us yet pinman was just killed, roman was attacked and someone is a thief. Stopping the thief seems to be the only thing we can do at the moment but I don't believe this person to be the newly wed Johanna, seeing she claims nobility now.

Imprison: John

Skooma Addict

08-03-2010, 20:16

I retract all I have said. Kill Johnhughtom.

Unvote; Vote: Johnhughthom

:laugh4:

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-03-2010, 20:58

Good wedding night, then? Hubba hubba.

Flax would agree that it was well over 4inches. Which is good, for a Dwarf.

...right? Right?

I retract all I have said. Kill Johnhughtom.

Unvote; Vote: Johnhughthom

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

But you're letting the foul, sneaky, ratty Godemperor off the hook!

johnhughthom

08-03-2010, 20:58

Tally:

Lynch:

God Emperor: 2 (Arpeg, auto)
jht: 4 (GE, Chaotix, khaan, Beskie)

Imprison:

jht: 7 (split, AA, khazaar, Capt B, Romanic, Renata, Skooma)

Working on the assumption poor Pinman's vote doesn't count. I'm curious as to why this post was universally ignored:

My only regret since fleeing and beginning to partake in the previously forbidden hookers and blow is that I did not see to it that Renata was killed.

I am following this thread for Secura's writeups and the little updates are scattered all over the place so I can clearly see Renata's evil posts where she makes many throwaway statements and accusations all throughout the round but waits till a bunch of votes are on one person before selecting her vote...

johnhughthom

08-03-2010, 21:01

I edited the last post, so to make it official.

Vote: Renata

Renata

08-03-2010, 21:03

Because it's Reenk, and it's wrong anyway. All I've been doing since the game was restarted is sitting around being clueless and voting you.

Renata

08-03-2010, 21:04

And congratulating the newlyweds.

johnhughthom

08-03-2010, 21:15

Because it's Reenk, and it's wrong anyway. All I've been doing since the game was restarted is sitting around being clueless and voting you.

Yet you answered the question so quickly.

Renata

08-03-2010, 21:17

Reenk Roink

08-03-2010, 21:23

Renata panic?

Renata

08-03-2010, 21:25

Yes. Please lynch me.

johnhughthom

08-03-2010, 21:25

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-03-2010, 21:25

I'm here.

Do you want me to go back through your day three shenanigans? It's why I voted you in the first place.

Why did you mislead Beskar into thinking you had married ArpTHIS when you hadn't? I don't see the point, even if you're mafia.

Or rather, I can see the point, but I don't see why you'd expect it to work.

John, it's gotten to the point where I simply cannot ignore your claims and comments anymore. First you're poor, then you're a noble, then you married me. No longer can I withstand your falsifications and slander and I think you've outstayed your welcome in Orzammar. Guards, have this man thrown into the Deep Roads!

Unvote; Vote: johnhughthom.

P.S: Godemperor, I've not forgotten about you.

johnhughthom

08-03-2010, 21:27

John, it's gotten to the point where I simply cannot ignore your claims and comments anymore. First you're poor, then you're a noble, then you married me. No longer can I withstand your falsifications and slander.

Unvote; Vote: johnhughthom.

Point me to where I mentioned you in any form, never mind claimed to have married you and I will vote for myself. My previous post doesn't count.

Renata

08-03-2010, 21:27

When did I ever say I married anyone, never mind Arpeg who I have had no contact with whatsoever in this game. Explain my shenanigans to me please.

You certainly implied it. And OK - pending.

Reenk Roink

08-03-2010, 21:33

You certainly implied it. And OK - pending.

Spare us, john's going to get it without some long winded and hopelessly flawed analysis.

God Emperor

08-03-2010, 21:45

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-03-2010, 21:57

@ Mr This, I know you have not forgotten. you are as fanatical as ever. By the way, I have seen you raise hell at every term you are being called Arpeg and not Mr This, so it would be nice if you could show the same gestures that you demand, and write my name in two words and not in a single word, as you have done so far :shrug:

That's complete rubbish. I have even stated (perhaps in this thread) that I am not one of those PEVERGREEN characters, and nor do I intend to become one. So can it.

EDIT: g o d_______________________e m p e r o r

Don't be so pretentious. Who cares about a space or a few capital letters?

EDITEDIT: To contradict your comment even further, it even says "Call me Arpeg" next to my pic. And that's only there to help people out.

Renata

08-03-2010, 22:12

I don't have the energy for you, Reenk.

un-imprison, vote: JHT

Here it is, like it or not:
Post 239, right after daybreak. Arpeg “confesses” to having been role-blocked on a night when there was no attack.
Post 240: JHT votes to imprison Arpeg just in case.
Couple posts in here about Noble Hunters and whether commoners can marry nobles, etc.
250: Autolycus suggests imprison Chaotix, same person as before can lock up ArpThis.
252: JHT switches to imprison Chaotix.
256: ArpTHIS comments on selling his short sword (to prove he’s not the axe murderer).
259: JHT says that proves nothing. ArpTHIS asks why right after, JHT wants him to give his reasons first so JHT can shoot them down. ArpTHIS does so.
264: JHT counters ArpTHIS’s arguments, but fails to concede that his selling of the sword really does demonstrate fairly well that ArpTHS wasn’t personally going around attacking people with an axe.
267: Chaotix claims his jailer role.
269: JHT – “I think we can have only one imprisonment at a time.”
271: JHT – wrong about that, but thinks Chaotix’ reasoning is strange
273: Chaotix wants the votes off him
275: Secura makes a post that rules out any chance that ArpTHIS could have started the game with a heavy axe and a sword.
301: JHT switches back to imprison ArpTHIS, to prevent God Emperor from being lynched on no evidence.
311: ArpTHIS “… seems more than fair on town’s part”
312: *** this is the post that I first noticed*** JHT: “Any reason you’re talking about town as if you’re not part of it?”

This is such classic scummy behavior. Someone makes an insignificant reference to the town from a outside perspective or scum from an inside one, or some other trivial “error” of perspective, and the scum jumps on them for it.

314: I call you on it.
315: You “refuse to bite”

So let’s sum up.
1. Vote to imprison the guy who just said he was roleblocked, on a night when nothing happened. Easy enough vote.
2. Someone else suggests that guy can be dealt with the same way as before, let’s pressure Chaotix instead.
3. JHT: Sure!
4. ArpTHIS comments how his sword sale helps demonstrate he’s not running around killing anyone with axes. JHT makes sure everyone knows that’s not exactly the case, but fails to close the deal (he refers to the possibility of double-wielding, but uses sword/dagger as an option, nothing including an axe).
5. When Secura makes a clarification that would seem to exclude a player of any class carrying axe and short-sword, JHT does not acknowledge it.
6. God Emperor is getting some lynch votes and Chaotix has roleclaimed (which was also gently questioned by JHT in the form of first questioning whether there could be two roleblocks, then questioning his reasoning), so JHT switches back to his original vote to imprison arpeg in order to prevent the evidence-free lynch on Arpeg.
7. The “town” thing.

There’s no conviction here. The only common theme is the persistent questioning of plausible roleclaims and the general failure to acknowledge it when the basis for the questions is undermined. And the “town” thing, which is classic.

johnhughthom

08-03-2010, 22:14

Fair enough.

Unvote, Vote: johnhughthom

Beskar

08-03-2010, 22:18

I call ArpeggiateTHIS, Peggie. Reminds me of that barlady from Secura's favourite programme.

Beskar

08-03-2010, 22:24

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-03-2010, 22:26

Also, this is the reason pevergreen is so fanatical about his name:

Pevergreen is a good natured boy, he would go around, bragging about his big P, he had all the fun with the boys and girls, popular in this area. When he grew older, he went into the dating world, he found the love of his life, and she thought she found hers, they were both smitten with eachother. One day, they decided to take it a stage further. They were both naked, aroused, waiting for enjoyment, as she looked down and got disheartened. "You know, I didn't think your P would be so small." With the night ruined, his heart broken, Pevergreen went to the courts and changed his name to pevergreen, as a sad token for losing the girl he loved most, because his p was so small.

The End.

I always wondered, and yet he would never tell! Not even with a telling off from Pizza and a PM sent from me to him would he yield!

Thanks, Beskar, for sharing this with me.

Edit: And from that explanation, I'd conclude that he still hasn't lost his "Big V" yet. I proclaim that from now on, he shall be called peVergreen! :laugh:
Don't kill me pever.