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so good, so good, I gave cash
soooooooo, where's that other 98% http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/07/14/haiti.donations/index.html?hpt=Sbin&fbid=_xemAl-8eqi
111.400.000 euro was collected here, the carebears at Oxam Novib don't feel like giving it to Haiti I guess as it's still on the bank.
so good, so good, they got loot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMtItIXizZc
HoreTore
07-15-2010, 13:49
Looks like me and CA gets to point our fingers at all you losers! :smash:
The Conservatives will rush in saying how it is a waste of money. Pretty accurate, as they don't even care about their own poor, nevermind Haiti.
HoreTore
07-15-2010, 13:59
The Conservatives will rush in saying how it is a waste of money. Pretty accurate, as they don't even care about their own poor, nevermind Haiti.
How can it be a waste of money when no money is spent?
rory_20_uk
07-15-2010, 14:05
No, that's not true! I suggest we invest masses of infrastructure on to an active fault line.
Why stop here? Lets' build masses of things on active faults the world over - and why not volcanoes too??? :wall:
~:smoking:
The Conservatives will rush in saying how it is a waste of money.
It is, I donated 150 euro to help Haiti not to help the extremily cynical aid industry. Not a cent of mine ever made it there. They are scammers, they didn't just keep a bit, they kept all of it. I bet they are already putting on their napkins waiting for the next tragedy to feed on. Sick :daisy:
No, that's not true! I suggest we invest masses of infrastructure on to an active fault line.
Why stop here? Lets' build masses of things on active faults the world over - and why not volcanoes too??? :wall:
~:smoking:
Truth be told, I bet a lot of the damage could have been averted with rebar. The Dominican Republic escaped the quake relatively unscathed, unreinforced concrete near a fault line is just asking for it.
Centurion1
07-15-2010, 15:29
They could have built so it wasn't so devastating........ then again this is haiti
Ser Clegane
07-15-2010, 16:25
It is, I donated 150 euro to help Haiti not to help the extremily cynical aid industry. Not a cent of mine ever made it there. They are scammers, they didn't just keep a bit, they kept all of it. I bet they are already putting on their napkins waiting for the next tragedy to feed on. Sick :daisy:
Not sure if I understood you correctly - you donated to an organization (Oxam Novib?) and they did not use any of the donations for Haiti to do something for Haiti?
The 2% mentioned in the article only refers to money that was pledged by governments - if I understood it correctly this has nothing to do with donations (and the examples later in the article illustrate that NGOs actually already spent a lot of the money they got for Haiti - Ithink it makes sense that they did not spend it all yet)
gaelic cowboy
07-15-2010, 16:32
No, that's not true! I suggest we invest masses of infrastructure on to an active fault line.
Why stop here? Lets' build masses of things on active faults the world over - and why not volcanoes too??? :wall:
~:smoking:
Simply by reinforcing the corner of a building you can increase the survivability of the people inside by a large factor.
imagine a series of Y shapes at every corner and you help the building stand larger quakes the Haiti quake was not that big but no one built proper houses so the fell quicker than most places.
Not sure if I understood you correctly - you donated to an organization (Oxam Novib?) and they did not use any of the donations for Haiti to do something for Haiti?
yeah
Ser Clegane
07-15-2010, 16:43
yeah
Any additional info on that? According their website (http://www.oxfamnovib.nl/first-Haiti-funds-above-all-for-shelter.html?referrer=960) more than 10% of the donations were spent early on (unfortunately I could not find the SHO report they mention which appears to have more detail)
Any additional info on that? According their website (http://www.oxfamnovib.nl/first-Haiti-funds-above-all-for-shelter.html?referrer=960) more than 10% of the donations were spent early on (unfortunately I could not find the SHO report they mention which appears to have more detail)
Plenty not even bothering, waiting for what they have to say
rory_20_uk
07-15-2010, 17:03
Simply by reinforcing the corner of a building you can increase the survivability of the people inside by a large factor.
imagine a series of Y shapes at every corner and you help the building stand larger quakes the Haiti quake was not that big but no one built proper houses so the fell quicker than most places.
And will the money be spent on reinforced structures, or cheap garbage and the developers run with the money - like last time?
~:smoking:
Ser Clegane
07-15-2010, 17:22
Plenty not even bothering, waiting for what they have to say
But you bothered enough to start the thread - why not also provide the information?
HoreTore
07-15-2010, 17:37
Plenty not even bothering, waiting for what they have to say
Your linky at the beginning was about state-to-state aid.... Unless Fragony suddenly declared independence from Holland, your donation has nothing to do with that. But they do mention what happened to your donations.... Looky here:
Some charities, meanwhile, are spending money as fast as they get it, while others are planning long-term projects.
Doctors Without Borders -- primarily a disaster-relief organization -- has received $112 million and spent $65 million, it says. The group plans to spend more than $109 million by the end of the year, spokesman Michael Goldfarb told CNN.
The Red Cross has spent $148 million of the $468 million it has taken in, and is holding some money in reserve for more permanent projects such as shelter and water.
Wow.... they actually spent the money they got! Who would've thought?!? And they didn't just spend it, they've managed the money wisely!
And for the love of God, could somebody please make whatever it is that plays that dreadful music on this site shut the hell up?!?
But you bothered enough to start the thread - why not also provide the information?
If you mean quality media, of course I can'tt
No, that's not true! I suggest we invest masses of infrastructure on to an active fault line.
Why stop here? Lets' build masses of things on active faults the world over - and why not volcanoes too??? :wall:
~:smoking:
Japan, Italy, California, New Zealand, Indonesia, Mexico have masses of infrastructure built on faultlines - what's your point caller?
NGOs get paid more money to work in places counted as 'dangerous' (ie. all messed up). They zoom about in their white land rovers staying in big out of town villas with all the supplies they could every want. The aid industry is the most corrupt in the world. And not only are they taking money and hope from those who need it most, but they are making the world cynical to ever helping people who need it.
“not to help the extremily cynical aid industry. Not a cent of mine ever made it there. They are scammers, they didn't just keep a bit, they kept all of it. I bet they are already putting on their napkins waiting for the next tragedy to feed on.”
NGOs get paid more money to work in places counted as 'dangerous' (ie. all messed up). They zoom about in their white land rovers staying in big out of town villas with all the supplies they could every want. The aid industry is the most corrupt in the world. And not only are they taking money and hope from those who need it most, but they are making the world cynical to ever helping people who need it.
Right.
Having been one part of the Cynical Aid Industry and most corrupt in the world you complain about I will tell here part my own experience.
Iraq, after Provide comfort Operation, Kurdistan :
Status: Volunteer + Per Diem: Living condition: War, Tent, thousand flies the day, thousand mosquitoes by night, scorpions under each stones etc in summer with no drinkable water, no electricity etc.
That were all the supplies I wanted, for sure.
Achievement: Vaccination campaign, rebuilding a Rural Health Centre, evacuation of injured when Turks decided to attack PKK bases in killing old women getting firewood in the mountains. Saved lives.
Bombing by F4F Phantom of the neighbourhood valleys and villages. We were spared for unknown reasons.
Pass details, came back with Hepatitis A, heavy fever, spent 2 weeks in Hospital specialised in Tropical illnesses…
Bosnia:
Status: Paid Volunteer (300 ECU/EURO + Per Diem)
War. Helping the wrong victims, (Serbs), subcontracted by UNHCR, UNICEF and UNWFP. Cold winter in the Bosnian Mountains and hot summer, snipers, no electricity, no water, no hot water on the tab, under mortar shelling when unloading medicament in Doboj Hospital. Being in the middle of a Muslim counter Offensive in Brcko. Others anecdotes as well, as mutilated corpses and mass graves…
Yemen:
Satus: Paid Volunteer (400ECU/EURO + Per Diem)
War. Life: Daily shelling and bombed by a Sukkhoi (stupid pilot missed Radio Station and near hit our hotel). Action: First aids, medicament, water supplies etc. Saved lives.
Got injured. 2 weeks coma, one year of various surgery and rehab, little bit of PTSD.
I have more but I will not inflict all my campaigns.
So, I will be as rude as I can in this site: Before to put judgment based on prejudices, watch and learn. I had one friend (Vincent Tollet, I checked I can write his name as it is on Google) killed in an ambush in Iraq, and it was not in putting in napkins.
Saddam Secret Services killed him in the Iraqi Mountains and if he wasn’t killed immediately, his jump of 600 metres in a river would have done the job.
The female colleague raped in Somalia, the nurses obliged to dig the graves in Liberia were not scammers (it was a joke, you are free go, Lot Of Laughs, said their captors).
I don’t deny there are war profiteers or disasters profiteers. But refrain to make accusations against people who, at least in Charities/NGO, believe they can help.
I still believe it. Individuals can make the difference. I know I did.
Nothing but respect for the tip of the spear, slightly less so for the people growing fat on holding the shaft. I want my money back. Not going to fall for this again.
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And not only are they taking money and hope from those who need it most, but they are making the world cynical to ever helping people who need it.
That. I don't mind giving money to people who need it, the countless overpayed members of the board really don't.
uberedit Dutchies only lololol http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2010/07/ghana_opgerot_we_hoeven_jullie.html#comments
To the Dutch challenged, Ghana says piss of with your money we are perfectly capable of building a bridge. Amazing as it may sound, they really can do that.
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