Non-mafia game: Crusader Kings [In sign-ups]

[johnhughthom]

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Ireland 1070 AD, five Dukes vie for control of an entire island, five families eager to rule and proclaim their dynasty the rightful Kings of Ireland. There are numerous ways this can be achieved, diplomacy and marriage, war, assassination and perhaps other ways for the unscrupulous or the righteous.


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Roles:

Duke of Ulster, Meath, Connaght, Leinster, Munster. (Map above isn't quite accurate, I will post another if/when the game starts)

Each dukedom will have one Duke and various other family members to help rule the realm, they can be appointed as ministers, married off to other Dukedoms or given count titles to rule a portion of the realm. Each player will have stats that will govern how effective they are at each aspect of governing a demesne, each stat will have more than one role in the game.

Of course it wouldn't be Crusader Kings without a wide variety of random events, how your dynasty will be affected by these will be down to your response to them.

Any number of players will be accepted into this, even after the game starts. If I get a low number of players I can cut one or two Dukedoms out, probably looking at a minimum of 15 players for a decent game.


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This is what you are aiming for, are you devious enough to get there?

If enough people show interest I will ask for a slot on the timetable. Any ideas, constructive criticisms welcome.



Interested so far (17/20+):

Jolt
Double A
God Emperor
B_Ray
Diamondeye
Beskie
Beefy
TCV
A_Dane
TheLastDays
Romanic
Kagemusha
auto
khaan
Skooma
I-K
Cent
A few others I don't believe frequent the org any longer. Whatever happened to CDF?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

In :yes:, Or at least interested. :tongue: Been wanting to get crusader kings for a while now, sounds like fun.

[Jolt]

Interested as well. From Irish Duke to

Holy Roman Emperor; King of Ireland, England, Wales, Scotland, León, Spain, Aragón and Portugal.

:D

[johnhughthom]

In :yes:, Or at least interested. :tongue: Been wanting to get crusader kings for a while now, sounds like fun.

http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DDB-CKDV/crusader-kings-complete-bundle :juggle2:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DDB-CKDV/crusader-kings-complete-bundle :juggle2:

:laugh4: Hey, I just bought HTTT a week or so ago, I can't just be throwing money on a new game so soon.

[Double A]

I'd hardly consider a game released in '04 "new" :tongue:

In

[pevergreen]

Leinster!

They are how I "learnt" Eu3. Failure over and over.

[Double A]

Sounds like Dwarf Fortress.

[civplayah]

Have no clue what this game is, but I'm in.

[johnhughthom]

Expansion on gameplay and rules (still a work in progress):

Warfare:

Each province will have a manpower stat, this will be the number of men available for warfare. The percentage that can be enlisted will depend on the realm's stability. Each province will also have a terrain type, certain types giving defensive bonuses (specific buildings can increase this bonus) and advances may give offensive or defensive bonuses. Troop numbers, offensive/defensive bonuses and the Marshall's military stat will determine the battle result. There will be no specific unit types, or morale stat.

War can only be declared if you have a claim on a title held by the realm you want to attack. Title claims will be determined at the start of the game, certain events may lead to new claims, or loss of existing claims.

Diplomacy:

The Chancellor will handle diplomacy, alliances, declarations of war, marriages, trade agreements and more will be in the game.

Intrigue:

The Spymaster will control a realm's spies and assassins.

Economy:

Each province will have a base income, this will be modified by the Steward's Stewardship rating, buildings, a realm's stability, trade agreements and other factors. Buildings can be built depending on province, advances and other factors.

Technology:

You can decide whether to aim for civil or military advances, which advances you get will be random. Advances may spread to other provinces randomly.

Family Tree:

Every player in the game will be part of a dynastic faction and potentially could become King, or Queen, of Ireland. Due to the nature of the game players may join after the game has started and take over a newly born character. Each realm will have the same system of inheritance, this will be elaborated if/when the game begins.

Religion:

The Pope has decided Ireland needs an Archbishop and has appointed one to rule in his stead. He will not be able to become King, and will not be allowed to hold lands. He will be a very powerful role with the ability to excommunicate anybody he feels anti-Catholic and goals of his own.

Events:

Many events will take place over the course of the game, some effecting everyone and some only a select few or an individual. Some will be public, others private. You will have an option on how to react to each, each course will have different outcomes, these wil be unknown until the decision is made. Random events are a huge part of Crusader Kings and so will play a large role in this game.

Gameplay:

Each turn will be 48 hours, this will represent one game year. Each realm will have a Quicktopic to decide on how to proceed that year, all orders need to be made through the QT. PMs will only be used for individual's orders.

These rules are very much a WIP and ideas would be welcome.

[God Emperor]

This looks like a lot of fun :) I would like an invite when the game starts

[johnhughthom]

For anybody who hasn't played it, Crusader Kings Complete is 50% off at the minute at Gamersgate, no excuse now Drizzty...

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

For anybody who hasn't played it, Crusader Kings Complete is 50% off at the minute at Gamersgate, no excuse now Drizzty...


:tongue: but what if I am a lucky winner on Facebook? Paradox is giving away a free Crusader King Complete each day to one lucky fan of their Crusader King 2 Facebook page. If I buy it then I might end up with two games! :laugh4:


Hey everyone, fan the page. The sooner you do it the sooner they get started on Crusader Kings 2!

[Double A]

For anybody who hasn't played it, Crusader Kings Complete is 50% off at the minute at Gamersgate, no excuse now Drizzty...

Gamerswhat?

[Jolt]

Gamerswhat?

http://www.gamersgate.com/

[B-Wing]

Well, if this one ever gets enough sign-ups, count me in!

[Diamondeye]

Looks great count me in :beam:

[Beskar]

John is an excellent player.

[johnhughthom]

John is an excellent player.

What a curious statement.

Anyway, Cops & Robbers was kind of a test run for this, it's a similar set up even if the setting is very different. The number of sign ups for C&R, and the low level of participation make me think this wouldn't work. I would need a minimum of 5 players per Duchy (preferably more) so I would need a minimum of 20 players. I wouldn't really be comfortable starting with a lower number and hoping more join as the game goes on as that simply didn't work with C&R.

edit: Though the player feedback on Jolt's game suggests this would work well. I'll open sign ups after Cops & Robbers and see how it goes.

[Beefy187]

I'll join :bow:

[The Celtic Viking]

I'll honour you all with my partaking in this game.

[Beskar]

I will join!

[johnhughthom]

I will join!

I already had you in, Mr Inconceivable Senior Member. Yes, it truly is inconceivable.

[B-Wing]

So I assume each player, whether he's a king, count, or councilman, is going for a faction victory?

[johnhughthom]

So I assume each player, whether he's a king, count, or councilman, is going for a faction victory?

Yes, basically everybody will be part of a Duchy and the goal is to have your Duke become King of Ireland.

[A_Dane]

Oh wth, I'd be interested :)

[johnhughthom]

The setting we use is not set in stone by the way. I picked Ireland as it has a small number of Duchies, it would be familiar to most players and, well, I'm Irish. If there are any regions people would prefer feel free to make a suggestion. None of the events I have already made are specific to Ireland and could easily be used in a new setting.

[TheLastDays]

I'm in and fine with Ireland I guess ;)

[johnhughthom]

You guess? Are you insinuating there is something wrong with Ireland? :inquisitive:


:clown:

[TheLastDays]

No, no, last time I checked everything was alright :P

[B-Wing]

I think Ireland would be ideal for such a game as this. If you're wanting an early medieval theme, a handful of small factions vying for dominance over each other, no significant outside influences, pre-Norman Ireland is probably as perfect a setting as one can find. :2thumbsup:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have edited the title for you as per your (possibly ancient) request.

[johnhughthom]

Since I'm halfway to my minimum numbers could this be moved to the Gameroom proper please. Ta muchly.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Well, I really shouldn't SIGN UP...

[Askthepizzaguy]

John, would you like me to add [In Sign-ups] to your thread title? I find it helps attract attention.

[johnhughthom]

John, would you like me to add [In Sign-ups] to your thread title? I find it helps attract attention.

Yes please. :bow:

[Romanic]

Bah John, couldn't you just make normal mafia games? :beam:

Alright I'll join, but hopefully this isn't too complicated.

[johnhughthom]

Bah John, couldn't you just make normal mafia games? :beam:

Alright I'll join, but hopefully this isn't too complicated.

It's the "Gameroom" not the "Mafiaroom"...

Anway, I'll try to rejig the format a little, to give you some reason to do your boring fascinating tallies and so forth. Good to have you.:yes:

[Kagemusha]

Il join if there is still space?

[johnhughthom]

Il join if there is still space?

Plenty of space still.

[autolycus]

I'll bite.

[seireikhaan]

:charge:

[Skooma Addict]

I've never heard of this game, but I have a feeling I will lead to the doom and peril of faction and my friends. I'm in.

[Beskar]

I love yaseikhaan's new avatar, it looks hilarious. Especially the Milk-mustache.

[johnhughthom]

Nice one, a good surge of sign ups there, and some good players I wasn't expecting to get. Just need four or five more, depending on whether I-K actually signed up. Silly Estonian, you'd think he's played enough of these to know how to sign up clearly... :clown:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Ok, I'll make it clear then: I'M IN... or is this better .. I SIGN UP! :clown:

[johnhughthom]

Ok, I'll make it clear then: I'M IN... or is this better .. I SIGN UP! :clown:

Hmmm, still not sure. Could you give it one more try?


:clown:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Well..
just because You asked
so politely..
I SIGN UP!!

~;)

[johnhughthom]

Four more needed to get the game started.

[Centurion1]

im in of course as with all strategy games.

and CDF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wait a minute this is like a year old. damn i was so excited

[johnhughthom]

im in of course as with all strategy games.

and CDF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good to have you. :bow:

Unfortunately the thread is almost a year old, I haven't seen CDF around for ages so I haven't put him in the sign up list.

3 more.

[Double A]

I miss him :bigcry:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Me too...

[naut]

In. I'm very interested.

I'm going to have to re-install CK to get in the mood. =)

[johnhughthom]

In. I'm very interested.

I'm going to have to re-install CK to get in the mood. =)

Awesome, great to have you Psycho.

Paradox are giving away a copy of Crusader Kings, from GamersGate, to everybody on their newsletter list. I'm not sure if it's too late to sign up and receive it, but if anybody would like my code (I can't guarantee it'll work, but don't see why not) drop me a pm.

[Double A]

I'm too busy playing Warband to get CK.

[Romanic]

Hrm, it is useful to get Crusader Kings to play this (not a) mafia game? Never played CK.

[johnhughthom]

It's useful to play Crusader Kings to make your life complete. It might make some aspects of the game a bit more clear, but not having played it shouldn't be an impediment.

[johnhughthom]

Khaan was first to ask, so I gave him my code. If it works okay I'm sure there are other forum members receive the Paradox Newsletter and already own Crusader Kings, Beskar certainly owns CK and I know he has an account at Paradox Plaza, so you may still have a shot at a free game yet.

[Beskar]

-Diamond Eye used code-

[Double A]

If some one doesn't mind me using the code for the Paradox forum icon

zuh?

[Beskar]

-removed-

[Diamondeye]

I don't have CK and I don't know it but I'd like to try it, sure. Beskar, you've got me on Steam - just write whenever :beam:

[Double A]

I'll take a free game if anyone else has it already.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Khaan was first to ask, so I gave him my code. If it works okay I'm sure there are other forum members receive the Paradox Newsletter and already own Crusader Kings, Beskar certainly owns CK and I know he has an account at Paradox Plaza, so you may still have a shot at a free game yet.

It seems that I also receive Paradox Newsletter.. Thank the Gods, this saved me some money I was planning to spend on CK! Anyway, installing the game now and waiting for you to start this one as soon as possible. ~:)

[B-Wing]

Good grief, I liked CC, but it was the first Paradox game I ever played. I don't know about all their other games, but the learning curve in CC is like a smooth vertical wall. Well, it's not nearly as bad as some games I've played (if freeware like Dwarf Fortress count), but it's quite steep. Since then I've played EU Rome and they both share my main gripes. Gotta appreciate the depth of the games, though!

[Double A]

DF definitely counts.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_p4mwI86ND_o/TQ_4N3Dt8OI/AAAAAAAAABU/95ths25bvt0/s1600/learning-curve.jpg

[Diamondeye]

:laugh4: So true, AA :tongue:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

When I saw new posts in this thread I thought that the game has started.. I guess I have to wait a bit more..

[johnhughthom]

Just need three more to start.