View Full Version : Met a Foreign Girl, Need Advice
Cowhead418
07-22-2010, 23:37
On Monday, I went to my 14-year-old brother's baseball game, and for most of the game I was playing tag at the park with my little brother and sister (I love kids). After awhile we invited this 6-year-old Vladimir to join us, and for the next half hour we played team tag and Duck Duck Goose. I had noticed what I thought was his mother watching us from the side, and she was very attractive, so I wanted to talk to her. So I told Vladimir that I was "too tired" to keep playing tag and sat down next to her.
Turns out she's only 19, and Vladimir was her nephew (Phew!). She just got to the States 2 months ago from Ukraine by herself, and the only two people she knows are her sister, who she is staying with, and Vladimir. She doesn't have a job yet, and plans to start taking an English class here, but hasn't gotten around to it yet. She had been taking English classes in Ukraine, but communication between the two of us was still a struggle.
I'm 20, and I'm currently taking Russian (2 semesters in), and am going abroad spring semester 2011 to St. Petersburg. My new friend, fortunately, is fluent in Russian, and I offered to help her with her English if she helped me with my Russian. She gave me a big smile at this suggestion and happily agreed, so we exchanged numbers. I'm planning on calling her a little later tonight to set up something for this weekend, like dinner or something - I'm going to ask her out in Russian too. However, I'm a little unsure of how to proceed with this, because I'm not well learned in Eastern European culture so I don't know exactly what she is going to expect. She is very beautiful, and it was funny seeing my dad's reaction to her, he mouthed a "Wow" to me as he walked by and saw the two of us talking.
Basically, I'm pretty stoked to see where this could go, and I'm very happy that I seized upon this golden opportunity that just fell into my lap. Any advice would be appreciated. :bow:
edyzmedieval
07-22-2010, 23:57
Ah yes, another one falls for the Eastern European beauty. Any other takers? We got plenty over here. I just want 10% of your earnings and I can hook you up with the best women on the planet. ~;)
Basically, asking her in Russian will be a surprise she will definitely like. So, yes, do it. Don't be pushy about it, and most Eastern European girls unless they are golddiggers love guys who are attached to their homes. Since she saw you with kids, that's a big plus. Keep at it and be calm, Eastern European babes have a sixth sense about guys.
Trust me, over here, it ain't easy.
Good luck. If you need anything else, ask. :bow:
Meh, just do what you think is right, if she doesn't like it, you two won't fit anyway, better to find out now than to divorce in ten years when you have five kids.
That doesn't mean fart around her all the time or so, just, be nice or whatever.
May sound rich from someone with my (lack of) experience but aren't we all armchair generals one way or another? ~D
Centurion1
07-23-2010, 00:44
I went on a date or two with a croatian girl I met while visiting family. Tbqh I didn't find her too different from american chicks. She was a very nice girl. Treat an eastern european like any other girl the balkan area chick I'm talking about didn't have any special slav traditions I remember, I think we went to a movie and the beach.
I hear ukrainians are a beautiful people, especially the women. Just be courteous and normal like husar said. Women overall these days aren't too different especially not for first dates.
Well, I have a Ukrainian dorm mate (He's male though), and I know his girlfriend too (Serbo-Portuguese). From what I got to know of his parents, they seemed like pretty open-minded people towards his dating. Don't know how it is for girls, but I don't think you should have any problem you wouldn't have from dating a Western girl.
Togakure
07-23-2010, 01:12
Keep it real, let it flow, don't worry about where it's gonna go.
Louis VI the Fat
07-23-2010, 01:17
Take her on an exciting date! Like, show her the wonders of electricity or microwave ovens or something.
j/k. She's foreign, but not all that foreign, I think? Besides, she migrated to America, as millions have done before. Just show her around a bit, be friendly, kind. Maybe she is just hoping to get to know more people, maybe she is looking to hook up. Possibly something in between / both.
I wouldn't maybe take her to dinner. If the language is still a bit of a problem, that might become awkward. I'd take her out for a Saturday afternoon, just to a park or something, or something fun in your area. Surprise her with a great, elaborate, but selfmade so sweet lunch and wine. Then lay down in the grass and tickle her feet with a flower you just picked etc etc...
I wouldn't maybe take her to dinner. If the language is still a bit of a problem, that might become awkward. I'd take her out for a Saturday afternoon, just to a park or something, or something fun in your area. Surprise her with a great, elaborate, but selfmade so sweet lunch and wine. Then lay down in the grass and tickle her feet with a flower you just picked etc etc...
A little bit cliche. But then again, it's a Western cliche. :grin:
KukriKhan
07-23-2010, 02:01
Clichés are clichés for a reason. Why else would Frenchmen invent them? Listen to the Man.
Megas Methuselah
07-23-2010, 07:09
Keep it real, mane. I usually take em out for coffee on the first, but that language barrier sounds a bit... of something like a barrier.
Yeah, Louis is right. Anything that would keep conversation to a minimum. Besides, practicing language and sentences with one another over a picnic sounds pretty sweet and fun.
Do it.
On Monday, I went to my 14-year-old brother's baseball game, and for most of the game I was playing tag at the park with my little brother and sister (I love kids). After awhile we invited this 6-year-old Vladimir to join us, and for the next half hour we played team tag and Duck Duck Goose. I had noticed what I thought was his mother watching us from the side, and she was very attractive, so I wanted to talk to her. So I told Vladimir that I was "too tired" to keep playing tag and sat down next to her.
Turns out she's only 19, and Vladimir was her nephew (Phew!). She just got to the States 2 months ago from Ukraine by herself, and the only two people she knows are her sister, who she is staying with, and Vladimir. She doesn't have a job yet, and plans to start taking an English class here, but hasn't gotten around to it yet. She had been taking English classes in Ukraine, but communication between the two of us was still a struggle.
I'm 20, and I'm currently taking Russian (2 semesters in), and am going abroad spring semester 2011 to St. Petersburg. My new friend, fortunately, is fluent in Russian, and I offered to help her with her English if she helped me with my Russian. She gave me a big smile at this suggestion and happily agreed, so we exchanged numbers. I'm planning on calling her a little later tonight to set up something for this weekend, like dinner or something - I'm going to ask her out in Russian too. However, I'm a little unsure of how to proceed with this, because I'm not well learned in Eastern European culture so I don't know exactly what she is going to expect. She is very beautiful, and it was funny seeing my dad's reaction to her, he mouthed a "Wow" to me as he walked by and saw the two of us talking.
Basically, I'm pretty stoked to see where this could go, and I'm very happy that I seized upon this golden opportunity that just fell into my lap. Any advice would be appreciated. :bow:
my only advice/comment is good luck; hopefully, ye'll not be given head by the attempt.
Clichés are clichés for a reason. Why else would Frenchmen invent them? Listen to the Man.
because the French, contrary to propaganda, are poor lovers-excluding Provence-and only look good because everyone else is worse. :clown:
of course, anyone and their retarded uncle is a better lover than the guy posting this, so I'm a poor judge.
show her the wonders of electricity or microwave ovens or something.
What, cancer? :P
You have one funny sense of humor there Louis!
Lucky. Lucky. Lucky.
Go somewhere non-threatening, so not dinner, not your favourite cafe, somewhere neutral like the park, the town centre, go for a walk. Don't monopolise the conversation. Etc. Enjoy it, whatever ends up happening.
Ethelred Unread
07-23-2010, 16:49
The best way to learn a foriegn language is to hook up with a member of the opposite sex and practice, practice, practice! You don't say how good your russian is but, I definitely go with that and try and speak it as much as possible.
As an ex-English teacher a great way to get a conversation going with non-english speakers is to talk about animals, and the animal noises they make, fr'instance dogs bark, cats meow etc. As they are onomatapeic you'd think they'd be the same worldwide, but every langauge is different. Guaranteed laughing, and to get a girl to like you laughter is an easy way!
Another good one is directly translating idioms the obvious one is "it's raining cats and dogs" (which only english learners use I'm sure) but you've probably got some local idioms you use which if you directly translate them are usually hilarious.
Good luck!
Sarmatian
07-23-2010, 17:05
Girls from eastern Europe are tricky. They don't like flowers, chocolate, music, films and so on. You need to impress her with brute strength, like break a beer bottle on your head. If you have tattoos and scars, those help too. Oh, and chest hair. If you don't have any, you're out. Run to the nearest barber shop, take some hair and super-glue it on your chest.
Just do what you would do with any other girl, mate. The only thing you shouldn't do is be disrespectful towards her nation and culture but that goes for everybody.
Louis VI the Fat
07-23-2010, 18:15
Girls from eastern Europe are tricky. They don't like flowers, chocolate, music, films and so on. You need to impress her with brute strength, like break a bear bottle on your head. If you have tattoos and scars, those help too. Oh, and chest hair. If you don't have any, you're out. Run to the nearest barber shop, take some hair and super-glue it on your chest. There is a grain of truth in there...
Eastern Europe is macho central. The guys act too tough, the women's skirts are all too short.
The other thing is, East European women are a bit more serious, mature, about relationships than West Europeans / Americans. They very soon try to figure out your worth, your financial prospective, what you can mean to her. I suppose they have a lower margin for error. It is a harsher society, with more inequality, and it shows.
Girls from eastern Europe are tricky. They don't like flowers, chocolate, music, films and so on. You need to impress her with brute strength, like break a bear bottle on your head. If you have tattoos and scars, those help too. Oh, and chest hair. If you don't have any, you're out. Run to the nearest barber shop, take some hair and super-glue it on your chest.
Just do what you would do with any other girl, mate. The only thing you shouldn't do is be disrespectful towards her nation and culture but that goes for everybody.
Nothing says I love you like broken shards of glass lodged in your skull.
Centurion1
07-23-2010, 20:08
key words in what you just quoted ice, BEAR bottle, not a beer bottle a bear bottle.
thats right eastern europeans drink bottles of bear.
There was/is a reason Americans fear(ed) the Russians!
Centurion1
07-24-2010, 02:29
Tell my father that husar
Megas Methuselah
07-24-2010, 06:59
key words in what you just quoted ice, BEAR bottle, not a beer bottle a bear bottle.
thats right eastern europeans drink bottles of bear.
That's not cool, mane. Bears are odd creatures, you're not spose to eat them. When they're skinned, their carcasses look strangely human, see?
Eastern euro's aren't for me. Drinking bears is just unholy.
Sarmatian
07-24-2010, 08:04
Girls from eastern Europe are tricky. They don't like flowers, chocolate, music, films and so on. You need to impress her with brute strength, like break a beer bottle on your head..
I don't know what bears you guys are talking about :laugh4:. It says beer bottle right there :book:
That's not cool, mane. Bears are odd creatures, you're not spose to eat them. When they're skinned, their carcasses look strangely human, see?
Eastern euro's aren't for me. Drinking bears is just unholy.
You're lucky that you can say that, just imagine the Russians had discovered Canada first... ~;)
On the topic though, the most rewarding thing about having a Russian girlfriend has to be her sexy accent.
You're lucky that you can say that, just imagine the Russians had discovered Canada first... ~;)
On the topic though, the most rewarding thing about having a Russian girlfriend has to be her sexy accent.
lol, no offense to Russians, but while they have a kewl language, it can sound pretty masculine. :P I don't know, I don't find the accent too attractive on women...
Cowhead418
07-24-2010, 17:09
I saw her last night! I ended up meeting her at the park where we met and we went for a walk and also stopped for some ice cream. Her English is better than I probably made it sound, as we ended up just hanging out and talking for about 3 hours before I dropped her off at her house. She kept asking me to say stuff to her in Russian, and she got a huge kick out of whenever I was able to string a few sentences together. I wish I had been studying up on my Russian more, as summer vacation has made me rusty, but she absolutely loved it whenever I spoke it.
The first question I asked her in Russian was about her birthday, and it turns out that we share the same birth date! That was a very pleasant surprise. The conversation for the most part settled around the differences between the United States and Ukraine. She said that two of the big things she's noticed is that people here are very friendly and happier in general, and that the food here has a lot more calories, so she has to watch her weight more. She was also very confused about baseball, so I spent twenty minutes trying to teach the game to her, but it's a very difficult game to explain to non-English speakers.
I also found out that in Ukraine she was a professional dancer, and also taught young children to dance. I forgot the name of the type of dance she does, but apparently she won an international dance competition in Poland against dancers from all over the world! Needless to say I was both very impressed and slightly intimidated. She's been applying for a dance instructor job here and was looking for dance classes, but hasn't had much success there yet, so she mostly spends her time just sitting at home with Vladimir and going for the occasional jog. She was also very happy to learn that I also work with kids (I'm a sports camp counselor), and when we said goodbye she asked what I was doing the rest of the weekend, and that she couldn't wait to see me again. So pretty successful first date, if I may say so myself. :2thumbsup:
edyzmedieval
07-24-2010, 17:22
I saw her last night! I ended up meeting her at the park where we met and we went for a walk and also stopped for some ice cream. Her English is better than I probably made it sound, as we ended up just hanging out and talking for about 3 hours before I dropped her off at her house. She kept asking me to say stuff to her in Russian, and she got a huge kick out of whenever I was able to string a few sentences together. I wish I had been studying up on my Russian more, as summer vacation has made me rusty, but she absolutely loved it whenever I spoke it.
The first question I asked her in Russian was about her birthday, and it turns out that we share the same birth date! That was a very pleasant surprise. The conversation for the most part settled around the differences between the United States and Ukraine. She said that two of the big things she's noticed is that people here are very friendly and happier in general, and that the food here has a lot more calories, so she has to watch her weight more. She was also very confused about baseball, so I spent twenty minutes trying to teach the game to her, but it's a very difficult game to explain to non-English speakers.
I also found out that in Ukraine she was a professional dancer, and also taught young children to dance. I forgot the name of the type of dance she does, but apparently she won an international dance competition in Poland against dancers from all over the world! Needless to say I was both very impressed and slightly intimidated. She's been applying for a dance instructor job here and was looking for dance classes, but hasn't had much success there yet, so she mostly spends her time just sitting at home with Vladimir and going for the occasional jog. She was also very happy to learn that I also work with kids (I'm a sports camp counselor), and when we said goodbye she asked what I was doing the rest of the weekend, and that she couldn't wait to see me again. So pretty successful first date, if I may say so myself. :2thumbsup:
You do realise you will sooner or later have to ask her to teach you a few moves, I hope. ~;)
I saw her last night! I ended up meeting her at the park where we met and we went for a walk and also stopped for some ice cream. Her English is better than I probably made it sound, as we ended up just hanging out and talking for about 3 hours before I dropped her off at her house. She kept asking me to say stuff to her in Russian, and she got a huge kick out of whenever I was able to string a few sentences together. I wish I had been studying up on my Russian more, as summer vacation has made me rusty, but she absolutely loved it whenever I spoke it.
The first question I asked her in Russian was about her birthday, and it turns out that we share the same birth date! That was a very pleasant surprise. The conversation for the most part settled around the differences between the United States and Ukraine. She said that two of the big things she's noticed is that people here are very friendly and happier in general, and that the food here has a lot more calories, so she has to watch her weight more. She was also very confused about baseball, so I spent twenty minutes trying to teach the game to her, but it's a very difficult game to explain to non-English speakers.
I also found out that in Ukraine she was a professional dancer, and also taught young children to dance. I forgot the name of the type of dance she does, but apparently she won an international dance competition in Poland against dancers from all over the world! Needless to say I was both very impressed and slightly intimidated. She's been applying for a dance instructor job here and was looking for dance classes, but hasn't had much success there yet, so she mostly spends her time just sitting at home with Vladimir and going for the occasional jog. She was also very happy to learn that I also work with kids (I'm a sports camp counselor), and when we said goodbye she asked what I was doing the rest of the weekend, and that she couldn't wait to see me again. So pretty successful first date, if I may say so myself. :2thumbsup:
Gratz man! Sounds like things went pretty darn well!
You're lucky that you can say that, just imagine the Russians had discovered Canada first... ~;)
On the topic though, the most rewarding thing about having a Russian girlfriend has to be her sexy accent.
that, and her hometown likely doesn't open up so many avenues for double meanings, unlike certain members' hometowns :clown:
Louis VI the Fat
07-25-2010, 02:51
Excellent news, glad the two of you had such a good time!
I ended up meeting her at the park
when we said goodbye she asked what I was doing the rest of the weekend, and that she couldn't wait to see me again.:knight:
People would be surprised how many great women there are, who just want a normal, fun guy, without issues, who can give a girl a fun afternoon / evening in a sunny park. Dating is too artificial, in America even near formal, with the cinema / dinner / 'drive her home and hope she asks me in' thingy. When the chemistry is there, a park is actual romance, straightforward and real.
Megas Methuselah
07-25-2010, 03:02
Great news, bro, I'm happy for you! I guess you're hotter than we all anticipated... :laugh4:
Cowhead418
08-01-2010, 05:57
I just want to thank everyone in this thread for their advice. Things have been going great with her, and we are now currently dating. After the park date I took her and Vladimir to the pool with my brother and sister, and it was a great time. She looks mighty fine in a bathing suit too. Though I only met her last Monday, we've already been on five dates, and I'm taking her to the White Sox (baseball) game tomorrow, so she can get a great American experience. Even though we don't always understand each other perfectly, we have great chemistry and it's clear that we both really dig each other. She even said that due to our Russian connection and the fact that we share the same birthday, she believes that it was "destiny" that we met. My overall love life to this point has been pretty uninspiring, but this girl is absolutely amazing and I think I may have hit the jackpot here. :smitten:
Louis VI the Fat
08-01-2010, 06:49
That's so sweet. :smitten:
don't tell her just yet you take your dating advice from a computer games website...
Hooahguy
08-01-2010, 09:19
Congrats! It definitely seems like this will go much better than any of my past relationships! :sweatdrop:
edyzmedieval
08-01-2010, 20:16
don't tell her just yet you take your dating advice from a computer games website...
Louis, if I ever meet you, the beer is on me because of this line.
:laugh4:
Congrats Cowhead!
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
08-01-2010, 20:18
There is a grain of truth in there...
Eastern Europe is macho central. The guys act too tough, the women's skirts are all too short.
The other thing is, East European women are a bit more serious, mature, about relationships than West Europeans / Americans. They very soon try to figure out your worth, your financial prospective, what you can mean to her. I suppose they have a lower margin for error. It is a harsher society, with more inequality, and it shows.
There's much truth in what Louis said. Also, I have the impression the russian girls a pretty much straight forward. Not so much tricking and stuff. I think the way she talks to you is a really good sign. Don't forget to *subtly* show her that you're ready to do her.
There's much truth in what Louis said. Also, I have the impression the russian girls a pretty much straight forward. Not so much tricking and stuff. I think the way she talks to you is a really good sign. Don't forget to *subtly* show her that you're ready to do her.
Yes, that should be his top priority in his relationship...not...
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
08-01-2010, 21:13
Yes, that should be his top priority in his relationship...not...
The "good guys" tend to forget that.
edyzmedieval
08-02-2010, 01:11
There's much truth in what Louis said. Also, I have the impression the russian girls a pretty much straight forward. Not so much tricking and stuff. I think the way she talks to you is a really good sign. Don't forget to *subtly* show her that you're ready to do her.
Strike a balance over here. Much truth in what Louis said, and all girls want to get laid, but being all too eager ruins everything.
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
08-02-2010, 01:20
"being all to eager"?
I don't think that's a danger in this case. Also, I said subtly.
The "good guys" tend to forget that.
One of the most amusing articles is on wikipedia -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_guy
One of the best theories is that "nice guys" exhibit androgynous or sexless behaviour. The other is the "desire to please", along with the "obsessive", and have many "insecurities".
Here is it from a womans view -
http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml
This whole making fun of nice guys thing completely destroys my ego every time.
I'd rather be a nice guy than the polar opposite. I'd much rather be in the company of a maiden as a nice guy than in the absence of one being a total [use imaginative vulgarity here].
I envy you, I've had my eye on an Eastern European beauty myself (a beautiful Romanian more precisely), and I've known her for sometime now, but I struggle to get anything together. :shame: Anyway, I'm glad that it seems to be working out for Cowhead. Best wishes for the future of this relationship of yours!
:medievalcheers:
"Nice Guy" is basically the opposite to what it means. I think to put it correctly, being a "Good Guy" is the thing to be, not a "Nice Guy". The "Nice Guy" is some one who is obsessive, sees women as an object, talks about how the good looking woman always dates the good looking males (but they neglect the woman around their type near them) amongst other things.
This is the parable of how to be a "Good Guy" from a "Nice Guy" - http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/spineless.shtml
This is a post from a "self-confessed Nice Guy" which feedback comments - http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/nice-guy-dilemma.shtml
It is a good read. It tells you the problems with the majority of the self-confessed 'Nice Guys' especially when some of them are not really that nice at all.
Strike For The South
08-02-2010, 21:49
lol by nice guy they mean you cater toward there whims, hoping it scores you points. the problem is dudes put women on a pedstal. remember they are just people and i agree the op needs to be a bit more bold. women like confidence and assertiveness not a romance that resembles there jr high days
which im not saying the op is doing but still dont be wishy washy. take everything your mother told you and forget it, feed the primal instincs
And if you falter who cares go out and meet another
Cowhead418
08-02-2010, 22:03
:laugh4: The last several posts have been quite amusing to read. I know all about the "Nice Guy" stuff, I'm not worried about that. In fact, we've already had the sex talk, and I suggested that we wait until we know each other better, because she was worried we were moving a little "too fast" already. I don't mind taking things a bit slow with her.
Strike For The South
08-02-2010, 22:08
:laugh4: The last several posts have been quite amusing to read. I know all about the "Nice Guy" stuff, I'm not worried about that. In fact, we've already had the sex talk, and I suggested that we wait until we know each other better, because she was worried we were moving a little "too fast" already. I don't mind taking things a bit slow with her.
she better be making you sammiches
I wish I was there for the sex talk. "In Russia, we don't have birds and bees, we have bears and walrus!", "Wait.. your sex talk consists of Bears and Walrus?", "No, Silly! We have no bees or birds, only bear and walrus!"
I love the accent, especially with the 'Foriegn English'. Some reason, a foriegner with a nice accent saying imperfect English sounds far sexier than a native English speaking English correctly.
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