Hoped I'd never have to make another one of those threads... [Archive]

Prussian to the Iron

08-23-2010, 22:18

Girl Help. Yeah so its another thread by PI about a girl. :shame:

So this girl 2 houses down is about 8 months older than me and in the same grade, which is certainly not too large of an age gap. she's a cheerleader, I'm on the football team (dont think I told anyone about this yet on here, HS Football!!). And I want to ask her out. I'm friends with her brother and hes fine with it, but there are 2 main problems:

She may or may not have a boyfriend, and nobody will be upfront and just tell me. don't know if this is trying to protect me or trying to make it funny when I do ask her out, hope neither.

Don't have any clue how to get closer to her. I go to their house all the time, but I hardly know her. how could I get to know her more so I can ask her out?

A Nerd

08-23-2010, 22:26

She may or may not have a boyfriend, and nobody will be upfront and just tell me. don't know if this is trying to protect me or trying to make it funny when I do ask her out, hope neither.

This seems odd. I think you should spite your tight-liped friends and ask her anyway. You have taken alot of no's, what is one more? If you never ask her, the answer is no from the beginning to end. If you ask, you might get a yes.

Don't have any clue how to get closer to her. I go to their house all the time, but I hardly know her. how could I get to know her more so I can ask her out?

You are in the same school I assume? Do you never pass in the hallway? Share classes? Participate in the same football related events? Study dates? Casual chit-chat by the lockers? If you go to different schools then perhaps you should note the email ask a girl out thread.

edit: Poor PI, so studly yet so seemingly fragile when it comes to aspects of love...I can relate ;)

Prussian to the Iron

08-23-2010, 23:29

School doesn't start til the 7th. Kings Dominion Law.

A Nerd

08-23-2010, 23:39

School doesn't start til the 7th. Kings Dominion Law.

Patience is a virtue. If you are impatient, ask your buddy to 'arrange' for you and your interest to be in the same room at the same time. Strike up a brief conversation about something you might have in common, football season for example, make a guess if necessary. Where you take the conversation (keep it brief) is up to you. I have always liked the study date route. Some idle (perhaps well placed) chit-chat under the guise of homework and the like. Once, I came to the study date bearing a gift. I brought a container of dried apricots for us to share as we went over schoolwork. She appreciated the gesture and enjoyed the fruit. Hence, we had homework and fruit to ease the tension and allow the conversation to flow more smoothly. Things progressed slowly and conversation was always able to be made and maintained, if the semester hadn't ended, and I graduated, it might have gone somewhere. :)

Prussian to the Iron

08-24-2010, 00:02

A Nerd

08-24-2010, 00:17

Patience? I'm 15, what were you thinking? Besides, I'm taking almost all very AP classes, except for an honors 10th grade english class (they put me in 11th grade english last year, so now im in 10th grade english???)

I don't quite understand what you mean by your post regarding a date, but I will continue with some advice anyway. As far as patience goes, you are going to have to learn it sooner or later, better do it while you are young. If you are saying she is in none of your classes, well, you can study historical topics for seperate history classes if you like. Don't think your lives have to be mirror images of one another for things to go well. You will never find anyone or anything like that. The only thing you will find is dissapointment. Should you ever decide to strike up a conversation, then that perhaps is where you will learn what move to make next. You only need one similarity to move forward, not all of them. Hopefully she is not impatient like you, girls don't like that.

Prussian to the Iron

08-24-2010, 00:59

I'm not impatient, I just dont have a whole ton of patience.

A Nerd

08-24-2010, 01:22

That's fine. You'll find that many of the good and bad in life is best dealt with slowly...;) In a time of less responsibility, 'youth', patience is more readily learned than in a time of more responsibility, 'aged one'. The less you have to think about, the easier patience comes to you. The young mind is also more sponge-like than when it hardens with age. If you should note when someone spills some patience, perhaps then you can learn to wipe it up...slowly.

pevergreen

08-24-2010, 02:32

Keep trying and it may work out.

Things have a way of solving themselves. I went through about 18 months of trying to get x girl then y girl. I gave up and out of nowhere, something happened. I didn't even really try...

The real question is, what are you in it for. Why do you want to be her boyfriend?

Prussian to the Iron

08-24-2010, 03:35

I don't really know. I feel like she's the only one whos really my age and maturity anywhere near my house, and I'm attracted to her regardless. First night I saw her I decided I wanted to go out with her.

Plus she's 2 houses down; What could be better?!

Beskar

08-24-2010, 03:42

You should flirt with her while you are over at their house, but the casual friendly flirting. If she reacts well to it, at least you know she doesn't think you are a goofus.

When they don't flirt back, pull a look like your just crapped on their pillow, or say nasty comments, then you know that asking isn't a good idea.

miotas

08-24-2010, 03:53

You need to do something really COOL!

Show her how MANLY you are!

When she's watching, do a HANDstand, climb a really tall TREE, or beat up one of your FRIENDS!

When she sees how AWESOME you are she will be all YOURS!

pevergreen

08-24-2010, 05:07

a completely inoffensive name

08-24-2010, 09:11

The best advice comes from your fellow football teammates. Trust me, I was on the football team too.

"Get that **** swinging all over town, she will be lookin at it and going 'oh ****, look at that big **** **** swinging, I want some of that ****!' and then she will be all up on you and yo uget to be 'nah, *****. my **** aint just for you, ****!' at which point she will be wantin you even more bro. at that point you got that ******* ***** all locked up for your big swinging **** bro!"
-One of my football teammates on the subject of attracting ladies.

Prussian to the Iron

08-24-2010, 16:17

A Nerd

08-24-2010, 16:47

Flirting is merely conversations with pleasing gestures. It's not hard to do.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88

08-24-2010, 20:02

A Nerd

08-24-2010, 20:11

Christ dude, you kinda young to be dating!

He is also alittle rude to be dating. I find good manners charming!

Prussian to the Iron

08-24-2010, 22:26

my god you would be appalled then at how many girls total douche bags with horrible manners who treat girls like total crap get. Its a shame, because I've never seen a more polite teenager actually, at least not under 17.

A Nerd

08-24-2010, 23:22

Younger girls, and sometimes, younger men, often will look past the obvious...

Hooahguy

08-25-2010, 00:00

Dude, you are 15? Dont waste your breath. I know, its tempting to go after girls, but dont try to get into anything serious before the age of 18. It just aint worth it. Wait until both you and they mature.

Prussian to the Iron

08-25-2010, 00:50

so you're saying not to go after any girls for 3 years, while everybody around me is dating a new girl every couple weeks and having sex? you must be insane.

Hooahguy

08-25-2010, 00:57

Fine, go ahead, but all you will do is break your heart. One girl who I know is 16, bi, and has a new girlfriend/boyfriend every month, and she is one miserable little girl.

A Nerd

08-25-2010, 02:06

15 seems alittle young to be having sex in my opinion. How responsible are youngsters these days? Anyway, if sex is the only motivation with which to start a relationship, a meaningful relationship, it would seem to me be doomed to failure. Unless of course, the other participant wants sex as well. But even if the two have sex right off the bat, a relationship might not have any staying power. Some might flatter in order to get the goods if you will, but one would think such acts would carry a negative reputation, hence negating future possibility. I don't know how it is nowadays. If a lasting relationship is what you want, then trial and error thru conversation while keeping certain urges and covered as possible is the best route. If you want sex, find someone who is experienced in such matters and strike up a conversation with her. Courting someone with similar motivations to your own will more than likely lead to the results which you desire most. This is all in my opinion, I can provide no successes or failures.

pevergreen

08-25-2010, 02:08

Isn't the age of consent 18?

A Nerd

08-25-2010, 02:13

Isn't the age of consent 18?

I didn't think it mattered when both parties were under 18. If one party is over and the other under, then you have a problem. I could be wrong though.

a completely inoffensive name

08-25-2010, 02:24

Megas Methuselah

08-25-2010, 05:19

Fine, go ahead, but all you will do is break your heart. One girl who I know is 16, bi, and has a new girlfriend/boyfriend every month, and she is one miserable little girl.

He doesn't appear stupid enough like we were, bro. From the looks of it, he just wants to get laid, nothing more. Good for him.

Anyways, if you're over at her place all the time, how hard is it to strike a conversation? Anything from, "hey, so you gonna check out the next football game?" to "heeeeey, I like your hair, it's really nice!"

My personal favourite is: "Hmmm, you look tired." One lonesome night, I got a cashier-girl carrying it on with a "Yeah, I worked my second job all day." "Oh really? Damn, sounds rough. So, where's your other job?" ...

Hey. You are handsome, right?

miotas

08-25-2010, 05:22

Just do whatever you want. Ignore everyone's advice (including this advice).

Strike For The South

08-25-2010, 16:08

Girls are people to. They like to talk and have conversations, I have also heard they may still talk to you with or without a boyfriend! Don't quote me on that though

Hosakawa Tito

08-25-2010, 17:41

Another forlorn hope thread. Brings back memories of my youth. To all you virgins out there, thanks a lot for nothing.:laugh4:

Prussian to the Iron

08-25-2010, 22:21

Girls are people to. They like to talk and have conversations, I have also heard they may still talk to you with or without a boyfriend! Don't quote me on that though

is it scientifically proven they are people? after the age of 25 they appear to act like normal people, but prior to their metamorphosis they appear to be an entirely different species. At least they act like it...

He doesn't appear stupid enough like we were, bro. From the looks of it, he just wants to get laid, nothing more. Good for him.

oh no, thats not it, not even a motivation really. but itd be nice :)

Anyways, if you're over at her place all the time, how hard is it to strike a conversation? Anything from, "hey, so you gonna check out the next football game?" to "heeeeey, I like your hair, it's really nice!"

My personal favourite is: "Hmmm, you look tired." One lonesome night, I got a cashier-girl carrying it on with a "Yeah, I worked my second job all day." "Oh really? Damn, sounds rough. So, where's your other job?" ...

Hey. You are handsome, right?

a completely inoffensive name

08-26-2010, 00:54

is it scientifically proven they are people? after the age of 25 they appear to act like normal people, but prior to their metamorphosis they appear to be an entirely different species. At least they act like it...

True story, at my school all the seniors have a mandatory lecture about AIDS and rape. Apparently, 1 in 4 girls are sexually assaulted, and it will be a man, a man in this very room right now will try to rape you at some point in your life.

So yeah, if that message is told to them when they are young, I can see why girls seem to act so weird to guys at your age.

pevergreen

08-26-2010, 06:14

1 in 4 girls are sexually assaulted, and it will be a man, a man in this very room right now will try to rape you at some point in your life.

And worst of all, he could be any one of us. He could be in this very room! He could be you! He could be me! He could even be... *killed by shotgun*

Raz

08-26-2010, 09:39

Social networking sites are ace to find out whether or not someone is in a relationship. Search for her on MySpace or Facebook or whatever you're into (or whatever network she's on). Easiest and most painless way to find out if she's taken.
Anyway, if you're just looking to dip your :daisy:, just make sure you bear in mind that she might not be up for a relationship like that - but by the sounds of it, everyone at your school is sexing each other, sounds like she'd be up for it too.

As for advice:

I'd wait for the new school year to begin.
Then I'd strike up a convo about what she's studying, football, or whatever.
Ask for her number, if she asks why say it's in case you get stuck with homework (or something along the lines).
You now have her number - use your imagination for how to use it.
Meet up at a park, or before/after a football match, etc.
???
Profit (your definition of profit, mine would be a loving, lasting relationship with sex only a small part of it... yours is clearly different. :laugh4:)

naut

08-26-2010, 18:07

I want to try to flirt, but the problem is I dont really know how....I'm sad I know.
It's not that hard, it's hardwired into your psyche, and girls initiate the majority of it, so just go with the flow. Depends on your approach too.

Alexander the Pretty Good

08-26-2010, 22:00

And worst of all, he could be any one of us. He could be in this very room! He could be you! He could be me! He could even be... *killed by shotgun*

What are you the president of his fanclub?

Hax

08-26-2010, 23:54

It's not that hard, it's hardwired into your psyche, and girls initiate the majority of it, so just go with the flow.

Weird as this sounds, it's completely true. Just don't make any penis jokes. That doesn't work. I found out the hard way.

a completely inoffensive name

08-27-2010, 00:00

Be self deprecating, that's how I succeeded.

Hooahguy

08-27-2010, 00:11

He doesn't appear stupid enough like we were, bro. From the looks of it, he just wants to get laid, nothing more. Good for him.
He has a right hand for a reason.

Alexander the Pretty Good

08-27-2010, 00:32

He has a right hand for a reason.

For high-fives, right?

Right?

Hooahguy

08-27-2010, 00:37

For high-fives, right?

Right?

Right!

miotas

08-27-2010, 03:23

Sing her a love song! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJhNXCe-BPI

Megas Methuselah

08-27-2010, 05:32

He has a right hand for a reason.

Hooah, honestly man... Y'know, sometimes... Sometimes you just have to go out there and take what's yours. The only difficult part is the akward part, and beyond that it's downhill. I'm being serious, bro.

naut

08-27-2010, 13:31

Be self deprecating, that's how I succeeded.
Only works if you know how to do it well, so as it worked for you I assume you self-depreciate well --- with most people though it just makes them look insecure and that's a big turn off for a lass.

Prussian to the Iron

08-27-2010, 14:20

Only works if you know how to do it well, so as it worked for you I assume you self-depreciate well --- with most people though it just makes them look insecure and that's a big turn off for a lass.

*googles self deprecation*
Ah, I'm fairly good at that, I think.at least when I do it.

a completely inoffensive name

08-27-2010, 22:15

Only works if you know how to do it well, so as it worked for you I assume you self-depreciate well --- with most people though it just makes them look insecure and that's a big turn off for a lass.

I took notes from Conan O Brien's material when he still did his Late Night show.

pevergreen

08-28-2010, 02:16

Only works if you know how to do it well, so as it worked for you I assume you self-depreciate well --- with most people though it just makes them look insecure and that's a big turn off for a lass.

But if you can do it well...it works for me, I'm regarded as rather funny.

I can't pick anyone up though, but thats directly related to how I look.

Megas Methuselah

08-28-2010, 08:08

You guys are kinda freaky.

Hax

08-28-2010, 11:15

Hooah, honestly man... Y'know, sometimes... Sometimes you just have to go out there and take what's yours. The only difficult part is the akward part, and beyond that it's downhill. I'm being serious, bro.

Yes, we don't want him to take matters into his own hands.

Skullheadhq

08-28-2010, 13:42

so you're saying not to go after any girls for 3 years, while everybody around me is dating a new girl every couple weeks and having sex? you must be insane.

What, I'm 15 myself as well, and why did nobody ever tell me about it?!
Seriously now, you're 15, you are supposed to make the best out of your life while you can at this age, you can always waste your time on girls later.

pevergreen

08-28-2010, 15:16

Seriously now, you're 15, you are supposed to make the best out of your life while you can at this age, you can always waste your time on girls later.

+1

Sex isn't all its cracked up to be. My first time was too young, and I was older than you are.

Prussian to the Iron

08-29-2010, 15:22

What, I'm 15 myself as well, and why did nobody ever tell me about it?!
Seriously now, you're 15, you are supposed to make the best out of your life while you can at this age, you can always waste your time on girls later.

+1

Sex isn't all its cracked up to be. My first time was too young, and I was older than you are.

this isn't the point....

Skullheadhq

08-29-2010, 19:40

this isn't the point....

The point is?

Hooahguy

08-29-2010, 21:35

Remember PI, size does matter, wait until little johnny grows up, k?

a completely inoffensive name

08-30-2010, 00:45

Remember PI, size does matter, wait until little johnny grows up, k?

No it doesn't. All that matters is that you [deleted].

Strike For The South

08-30-2010, 00:59

No it doesn't. All that matters is that you [deleted]

897

A Nerd

08-30-2010, 01:41

Don't be afraid to use your hands either. Stimulate the largest organ. Trust me...

Strike For The South

08-30-2010, 02:41

As we begin to descend on what can only be desrcibed as "sex advice given by the least qualified people on the planet" I wish to share my happiness.

898

Hooahguy

08-30-2010, 02:52

As we begin to descend on what can only be desrcibed as "sex advice given by the least qualified people on the planet" I wish to share my happiness.

898

The "describe your first time" thread of long ago springs to mind.

Strike For The South

08-30-2010, 02:56

The "describe your first time" thread of long ago springs to mind.

Yea bro, toattly, these guys are complete n00bs we would never start a thread like this or post our love lives

O

Wait

pevergreen

08-30-2010, 03:31

Yea bro, toattly, these guys are complete n00bs we would never start a thread like this or post our love lives

O

Wait

hahaha, I remember that one.

Prussian to the Iron

08-30-2010, 15:54

wow after that page I'm surprised no mods stepped in....

anyway might drop her for a pretty Jewish chick I met at our new congregation. she basically flirted with me the entire time, it was awwwwwesome.
but shes in the marching band. not awwwwwwesome.

still that means that shes easier to impress!

and so the plot thickens......along with some appendages.....

A Nerd

08-30-2010, 17:54

and so the plot thickens......along with some appendages.....

Juse make sure it is not your ego! ;)

Moros

08-30-2010, 20:15

My god haven't laughed as much in ages.

You don't need advice. If you want to learn how to get together with women, just try getting together with them. You'll learn best by doing it. What works for one guy doesn't work for another. Just try to be confident. You don't need advice. Not that you need sex either though. While a relationship and a gf aren't necessarily bad things for someone your age, with or without sex, just sex for the sake of it is. Sex for the sake of it, tends not to be good sex either. And the sex you'll be having, both probably being vergins, will be even worse. You'll be dissappointed and frustrated. And to make matters worse, though you clearly think you are, you very much sound like someone who isn't ready. If you were my son, younger brother I'd give you a long preach and a good old spanking.

pevergreen

08-31-2010, 02:11

Plus 5 seconds and it would be over for him.

Listen to Moros. :yes:

a completely inoffensive name

08-31-2010, 06:48

Plus 5 seconds and it would be over for him.

Listen to Moros. :yes:

hey lets not disrespect 5 seconds of fun here. We have all had our 5 seconds of bliss when we realize that the enemy army begins routing from our triumphant army.

Like I said, the tongue is an all in one tool for women. Every aspect of flirting, romance and sex can be done right as long as you use the tongue right.

Megas Methuselah

08-31-2010, 07:06

Use the battering ram. I don't care how tough the Gates of Rome are, you need to smash your way in. Ignore the screaming, and ignore the blood. Just thrust your way in and devastatingly plunder the insides.

In this life, you gotta take what's yours.