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One of the more popular request for a MOD is a playable Scotland. I have one. Already includes new units (Schiltrons and Claymores), graphics, Campaign.TXT file ... the only problem is that I have not found a way to direct the program to use the scottish names in the english localization file.
Has anyone found where (if not hardcoded *crosses fingers*) the variable is that tells the program which "faction names" to use when naming Kings/Princes/Generals? If hardcoded, has anyone mapped which factions draw from which and especially the FN_FREE units? If not, I'll do that and provide the info in Wellington's variable definition thread.
PanthaPower
01-29-2003, 15:06
Quote[/b] (Phalanx @ Jan. 29 2003,14:03)]One of the more popular request for a MOD is a playable Scotland. I have one. Already includes new units (Schiltrons and Claymores), graphics, Campaign.TXT file ... the only problem is that I have not found a way to direct the program to use the scottish names in the english localization file.
Has anyone found where (if not hardcoded *crosses fingers*) the variable is that tells the program which "faction names" to use when naming Kings/Princes/Generals? If hardcoded, has anyone mapped which factions draw from which and especially the FN_FREE units? If not, I'll do that and provide the info in Wellington's variable definition thread.
Phalanx,
if I understand what you want you should find your answers in \mtw\loc\eng\names.txt.
Good luck
Panthapower
Quote[/b] (PanthaPower @ Jan. 29 2003,08:06)]if I understand what you want you should find your answers in \mtw\loc\eng\names.txt.
I got that part, but for instance, if you activate the Burgundians, they draw their names from the "french" list, the Sicilians from the "italian" list. I'm wondering if there is a way to change which list the names are drawn from (I'm beginning to think this is hardcoded). If it is hardcoded, I was wondering if anyone has mapped this out, if not I'll muddle through it.
I see Scottish, Irish and Welsh name lists, I'm guessing that those lists are used for Kerns, Gallows, Longbows and Highlanders only. Since I seem to recall "regular" catholic troops raised in those provinces have names that match your names of your "home" provinces. So if the French raise a Kern in Ireland, he'll have an Irish named leader, but raise a Spearman in Ireland as the Frnech and he'll have a French name.
PanthaPower
01-29-2003, 15:59
Ah, now I get what you want. But unfortunately I cannot help you with it. I haven't spend too much time in the names.txt yet.
Unfortunatly the Scots,Irish & Welsh names are H,coded for the provence they fit. in my campaign I've used the papists as the scots and just amended the italian names which I've also put in some Irish names cause I used italians for Irish.
Lord Krazy
01-30-2003, 21:44
Which list of Irish names are you talking about?
I don't have one.The Irish I'v seen use Scottish
names.The are all hardcoded rebel names,
so no joy on that.
Quote[/b] ]I see Scottish, Irish and Welsh name lists
In what file?
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Knight_Yellow
01-31-2003, 00:20
if u do sumhow figure it out and can add a name by all means add dougall.
Lord Krazy
01-31-2003, 14:38
dougall?
Is it for The Magic Roundabout mod http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
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Swoosh So
01-31-2003, 14:47
Quote[/b] (Lord Krazy @ Jan. 31 2003,12:38)]dougall?
Is it for The Magic Roundabout mod http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
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Quote[/b] (Swoosh So @ Jan. 31 2003,07:47)]
Quote[/b] (Lord Krazy @ Jan. 31 2003,12:38)]dougall?
Is it for The Magic Roundabout mod http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif
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i haven't seen that in years...
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Dougal is easy - Heavy Cav,
but what to do with Zebedee???
Lord Krazy
02-01-2003, 03:12
A cannon ball maybe
a bouncing one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif
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MiniKiller
02-01-2003, 04:44
Wait...so you made scotland their own faction? with their own king/sheild and colors YAHOO May I see some pics? I know your not done yet but this is what I have been looking for Actually I would like all the rebels to get their own stuff (U know maybe 2 provinces can be 1 faction or combine 5 or 6 or in Scotland's case, just one) That would be sweet, just think, so many factions
MiniKiller
02-01-2003, 04:48
Like what I mean is maybe combine swedan and norway and make them one faction (mayeb the danes?) and like the Irish would of corse be a green color and well I am rambling...but you get it right? tell me if you dont and I will try to calm down http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif and explain better http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
MiniKiller
02-01-2003, 17:38
I'm assuming you used the Scotland colors/shield from the historical battle.
Swoosh So
02-01-2003, 17:58
Minikiller tell me exactly what u want in a mod and ill make it and upload it for ya, its quite easy for me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
MiniKiller
02-01-2003, 22:16
WEll I would be looking for a more accurate setup which I belive WesW has done. I would also like to see more factions such as Scotland which is discussed in this post. I would like to see all the rebels gone, replaced by real factions, how ever minor in each starting date. All that would need to be done was give them an accurate shield/colors and a king to start them off, is that possible? Also I would like them to be playable.
Not possible unfortunately. We are limited to 20 active factions at ant one time, two of which appear to have to be reserved for the Golden Horde and the Swiss. So 18 possible player factions.
I've fixed the Scotland name problems BTW and am in he process of running an entire campaign to verify that they game does not crash on some trigger event (like the Horde).
Look for the MOD this week sometime.
MiniKiller
02-02-2003, 05:05
How many do we currently have? isnt it 17? so we have 3 spots left? Your Scotland would be one and then 2 left?
Could you please post some pics of your begining maps with Scotland and the color u chose and shield? maybe some battles to? thanks
MiniKiller
02-02-2003, 05:06
What event triggers the Horde crash? I only made them playable but changing minor to major (forgot what lines they were) but never actually played as them.
Knight_Yellow
02-02-2003, 05:30
Stop moking dougall thats my name
and yes the dog from magic roundabout was dougall
and yes the snails name was brian
and yes my dads name is brian
im so ashamed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
MiniKiller
02-03-2003, 01:19
anyone? any scotland pics? please?
Knight_Yellow
02-03-2003, 03:07
phalanx could u post here when uve uploaded it.
i check the files regularly but it woud be a time saver.
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The worlds first Scottish Pope http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
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Knight_Yellow
02-03-2003, 05:54
wat mod is that?
Lord Krazy
02-03-2003, 07:05
that's Mr EGG's ECW mod.
I don't think it's available at the moment.
It should be sorted soon I hope.
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MiniKiller
02-03-2003, 20:07
Cool How far are you in completling this mod? Will The Scots be playable in all the areas and custom battles? thanks
Definatly yes when Wellingtons LMM prodject is completed all these mods will be available for download, the reason being that it will create the TGA's as well as the lukmaps.All I can upload at present is the scripts and lukmaps which are pretty useless without TGA's which are to big to upload,it will not be long,cheers M.E http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
MiniKiller
02-04-2003, 01:19
mr egg what exaclty does ur mod do?
also about the scotland troops, do u have any battle screen shots? also I think u should make the base of ur units (on the map) either blue with the little white on top or white with the little blue on top.
mr egg what exaclty does ur mod do?
My mod is set in the 1640's which is the English civil war.
It has the Scots,Irish,Royalists,Parlimentarians&French.
But you could just play the Scots and destroy the English http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
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MiniKiller
02-04-2003, 03:16
Cool does it add on to the first 3 campaigns? I hope it doesnt overwrite them, and Scots will be avalible in early, high and late periods correct? did u take my advise for the bast of the units color change?
Knight_Yellow
02-04-2003, 04:45
im gettin restless
who cares if it crashes i want it anyway
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Knight_Yellow
02-05-2003, 08:41
seriously though upload it
c'mon c'mon c'mon
im going mental here ive started playing sp again just to buff up on my economic skills 12k profit a year not half bad.
plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz
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I'll try but its not yet fully functional but it is playable
I will not be able to upload units only flags, name text etc
but I will try http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
MiniKiller
02-06-2003, 03:24
I will be patient and wait for the fianl version :0
So what about my idea for the base on the units for Scotland in the campaign map and we will be able to use them in normal campagins that came with the game right? They wont be rebels anymore?
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But don't you think you should wait until Viking Invasion is out to use that map - since it has much greater size & detail of England and Scotland? I would think that would be superior.
If you don't wait I'll definitely be interested in your mod.
(Sighs) ANOTHER mod to integrate with my own efforts. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif
el_slapper
02-07-2003, 11:19
Isn't conquering Europe more motivating than simply getting english out england for you scots?
Knight_Yellow
02-07-2003, 12:14
no killing sum english is surprisingly fun.
alman9898
02-13-2003, 22:35
Phalanx, my campaign still doesnt work, but I have manged to change the names. Just change the words inside the {} in the names.txt for the sur and forenames of the country u amended the Scots to be.
Knight_Yellow
02-13-2003, 23:59
last thing i heard it was gonna be ready 1 week ago where is it cumon cumon ppl im playing max payne now save me fromm the noir storyline.
Joking max payne is god
Hagbard la Suede
03-04-2003, 18:48
Hehehe =D i can barely wait for the scottish mod.We will be able to be scots in viking invasion tho.
BE SURE TO POST WHEN ITS DONE PHALANX
or ill cut yer wee wee
Any time frame when it will be done?
I'm thinking we can convert the entire European continent into Scotland with Spain being the northern Highlands and Russia being Northern England. The mod could run from mid 1600s thru the Jacobite period though personally I'd like to keep it from 1689 to 1746.
Most Scottish units can already be converted from stock MTW units (ie Varangian guard - Lochaber Axemen) though it would be nice to include new ones for Clan Chiefs, Scottish Nobles and Highland Arquebusiers. What would need work would be prospective French allies and English foes. I asked LK about this actually.
Players could play one of the clans or noble houses (Montrose/Graham; Argyll/Campbell; Huntley/Gordon) or the perfidious Albionic archenemies of the Scots.
Just a thought,
Richmond
Lord Krazy
03-09-2003, 19:51
So is this what you want them for DC?
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BTW K_Y don't kill them until I'v finished 'em OK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
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