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Edouward
09-19-2010, 05:17
1.Has anyone got some information about the Togar nomads mentioned in the introdunction of Saka Raukka?
2.As far as I know,iron cuirass of Hellenistic period were discovered in Epirus,Macedonia,and the region once occupied by the Sarmatians.I wonder if armors of this kind were discovered in places such as Sicily, Asia Minor,Peloponnesus,and so on,which were more "civilized'~~
3.Is there any archaeological evidence of the combination of cuirass and mail,as shown by the armor worn by the Hetairoi in the EB?
4.Mail veil was said to be of Iberian origin,and was used by the Seleucids.Is thereany evidence to support this?

Lazy O
09-19-2010, 05:19
Please edit the OriginalPost of your previous threads instead of making new ones

Ludens
09-19-2010, 10:49
3) A statue found in Epeiros. It somewhat disputed though, but check out this thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?102797-Assorted-Historical-Questions-Gertrude-et-al-ask-them-here!&p=1919599&viewfull=1#post1919599).

4) The TAB unit is based on an archaeological find, although I can't find a thread that gives details. It is a one-of-a-kind thing, though, but then we know very little of the post-Alexandrian Hellenistic elite troops.

Edouward
09-19-2010, 16:06
Thanks a lot,and now I konw how much you have done for making EB even closer to History.

Olaf The Great
09-19-2010, 16:26
The TAB was slightly modified from .8x to 1x, so it fit the model of the Dosidataskeli and Dubosaverlacica to save space.

MeinPanzer
09-21-2010, 17:42
1.Has anyone got some information about the Togar nomads mentioned in the introdunction of Saka Raukka?

I think it's a rendering of Tocharians, also known as Yuezhi or Yueh-chih. If you'd like to find some information on them, search for those names (especially the latter two).


2.As far as I know,iron cuirass of Hellenistic period were discovered in Epirus,Macedonia,and the region once occupied by the Sarmatians.I wonder if armors of this kind were discovered in places such as Sicily, Asia Minor,Peloponnesus,and so on,which were more "civilized'~~

No. The only actual examples of iron cuirasses found are those mentioned, but we do have Hellenistic representations of iron cuirasses from southern Italy on terracotta figurines.


3.Is there any archaeological evidence of the combination of cuirass and mail,as shown by the armor worn by the Hetairoi in the EB?

No. As discussed in that thread linked above, it's fairly clear that that man is wearing a long-sleeved tunic in the Persian style, which was fashionable among Graeco-Macedonian cavalrymen from Alexander's day until around Pyrrhus' death.


4.Mail veil was said to be of Iberian origin,and was used by the Seleucids.Is thereany evidence to support this?

No, and IIRC the EB team has stated that they will change it.