What would be different if there was no police

[Fragony]

Not anything, these hobby-bobby's are too dumb to do anything properly anyway. Private security can guard stores, communities can pay for surveillance, needs some changes but why are we giving money to disobedience tax exactly? Why would tax-collectors have a say into something they weren't trained for? Why do we need police?

Yes a gun debate, it should at least be tested to have no police and only guns, with private security patrolling the streets. What's the difference really de facto? Nothing, less fines but what else, it's all they know.

-castle law
-complete disbanding of police
-opening the security market

Why not?

[Cute Wolf]

nice idea in theory, but what IF the security market are infiltrated, and later on, dominated by mafia / druglords / gangsters / aizen sosuke

[Tellos Athenaios]

Cause it has written fail all over it. See the thing with these kind of “less state” alternatives is that anyone not obsessed with less state can see that in a way those security contractors will become too competent in providing security for the one who pays, but rather less competent in avoiding harming others. It's the same with PMC's: they aren't held publicly accountable so they just don't care as long as they get their job done. That kind of thing comes full circle.

Or in other words, in a way a similar social experiment was done on Sicily in the mid 19th century and to a large extent is being done in the USA right now. It's just not the police or society at large that is doing it, it is the criminals who do it. Instead of being just a criminal relying on a basic security provided by the society that they live in, they feel the need to employ the services of a group of other criminals who will provide them with far more personal security than they could otherwise attain. Now, of course those criminals rather say that they join a family, a brotherhood or a gang or whatever they call it; but they're not doing that for the weekly variety show or Christmas dinner...

[Fragony]

Double thread I blame Tosa, without any irony whatsoever and most of all no irony, can the mods lock this?

[CountArach]

Locked :bow: