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QuintusSertorius
09-26-2010, 00:49
I noticed this earlier in my Pergamon game. It might be a feature of the City Mod, but I think it's the RTW engine in general. In my capital, whenever I recruit a unit, the squalor level drops by 5%.
I'm at the ceiling population (hovering at around 11,000) if that makes any difference. Just never noticed this before. I can understand the logic of it, fewer people means less over-crowding, just hadn't seen it happen.
Doesn't seem to work anywhere else, maybe it's because of the size? Or because it's the capital?
Tellos Athenaios
09-26-2010, 06:46
It is a feature of the RTW engine. It simply recalculates the squalor penalty for the new population size and sometimes that means the penalty drops.
Captain Trek
09-26-2010, 08:33
It is a feature of the RTW engine. It simply recalculates the squalor penalty for the new population size and sometimes that means the penalty drops.
Precisely... Though I am a little perplexed as to what the OP means by "ceiling population"... In my current Makedon game, Pergamon's sitting on about 15,000 population and, once it completes the public baths project next season, will resume growing (it's currently at 0% growth). Admittedly this is thanks in part to an uber 8 management, 10 influence governor I have in the settlement who is increasing the population growth rate by 1.5% (the city would be at -1.5% without him) and the city's income by 1,500 Mani a turn, but even without him I could build a large granary, a mega asklepieos, an aquaduct and that "estate" thing you get after "grant of land" and easily grow Pergamon's population beyond 15,000 even without the governor (not to mention that, if I really wanted to, I could demolish the temple I currently have in the settlement and replace it with that one that gives a public health bonus)...
QuintusSertorius
09-26-2010, 11:41
Precisely... Though I am a little perplexed as to what the OP means by "ceiling population"... In my current Makedon game, Pergamon's sitting on about 15,000 population and, once it completes the public baths project next season, will resume growing (it's currently at 0% growth). Admittedly this is thanks in part to an uber 8 management, 10 influence governor I have in the settlement who is increasing the population growth rate by 1.5% (the city would be at -1.5% without him) and the city's income by 1,500 Mani a turn, but even without him I could build a large granary, a mega asklepieos, an aquaduct and that "estate" thing you get after "grant of land" and easily grow Pergamon's population beyond 15,000 even without the governor (not to mention that, if I really wanted to, I could demolish the temple I currently have in the settlement and replace it with that one that gives a public health bonus)...
I play with the City Mod (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?79775-City-Mod), it constrains the populations of all settlements. So with that in the population has hit a ceiling at around 11,000. The current governor has 8 management and 7 influence, but it doesn't matter.
Actually, I just checked and he's got 10 management and 10 influence:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/capital238BC.jpg
Cambyses
09-26-2010, 12:30
Is it not simply because by recruiting a unit you have decreased the total population of the settlement sufficiently to fall into the next squalor bracket. Once your settlement has recovered in size your squalor level will increase to its previous position.
QuintusSertorius
09-26-2010, 13:09
Is it not simply because by recruiting a unit you have decreased the total population of the settlement sufficiently to fall into the next squalor bracket. Once your settlement has recovered in size your squalor level will increase to its previous position.
That certainly seems to be the case.
I noticed this earlier in my Pergamon game. It might be a feature of the City Mod, but I think it's the RTW engine in general. In my capital, whenever I recruit a unit, the squalor level drops by 5%.
I'm at the ceiling population (hovering at around 11,000) if that makes any difference. Just never noticed this before. I can understand the logic of it, fewer people means less over-crowding, just hadn't seen it happen.
Doesn't seem to work anywhere else, maybe it's because of the size? Or because it's the capital?
makes sense to me-that's how 18th century Judges in the UK tried to lower crime.
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