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NinjaKilla
06-24-2001, 00:58
I was playing someone the other day and some thing odd happened even before a shot had been fired.

I moved my units after setup in reaction to the positioning of my opponents men. Within about a minute of this happening, a yari samurai unit with an honour of two and a fatigue rating of fresh, decided it to rout!

There were no enemy units anywhere near it and my own army was deloyed closely, nor was it under fire.

Does anyone have a clue why this happened, was it just bad luck?

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- Our girls fall for samurai and they'll go chasing after them.
- If the bandits come they'll cut our heads off. We'll worry about the girls later.

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Anssi Hakkinen
06-24-2001, 01:02
The rout bug.

For a brief explanation: it happens.

For an exhaustively long explanation: this thread (http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000960.html).

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High Voltage
06-24-2001, 01:08
This happened to me when my honor 3 monks were on a hill not even moving! The enemy was really far away and no fighting was taking place between any of my units, and they were all close together.

Doragon_Ajidrik
06-24-2001, 01:35
I have played over 300 games and not once have my units routed for no reason. There is always a reason they rout though I GET MY ASS KICKED http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

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evilc
06-24-2001, 01:47
i have routed an enemy within 5 seconds of the game starting in MP. Of course, they had an army of arqubuisers and it was thundering HAHA on that person. Pity it was before i learnt the F2 function

NinjaKilla
06-24-2001, 01:52
Thanks for your help Anssi (and all those who tested!)

That's a real pain in the arse! Looking back, I can think of another occasion where half my army routed as a result of these 'stacked orders'.

It's definately worth knowing about these things!

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- Our girls fall for samurai and they'll go chasing after them.
- If the bandits come they'll cut our heads off. We'll worry about the girls later.

From: Seven Samurai

Shiro
06-24-2001, 02:23
It's a shame. I get my men all nice and set up and then...they run away.

NinjaKilla
06-24-2001, 04:16
Do think that in some cases this may reflect a lack of confidence in their general?

http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif



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- Our girls fall for samurai and they'll go chasing after them.
- If the bandits come they'll cut our heads off. We'll worry about the girls later.

From: Seven Samurai

Koga No Goshi
06-24-2001, 07:14
Now that I've read about all your expereinces and the explanation of the rout bug, I think I know now why my two units of cav archers who were at full strength and were BEHIND my main army line with the enemy really far away all of the sudden turned around and ran.



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Koga no Goshi

Why did you bring 16 Female Ashigaru? Keep clicking weather, they're only strong one week a month.

TheDarkElite
06-26-2001, 22:14
yes, this rout bug, as ppl call it is doing my head in, as ive lost 3 CA in my stw life time..i was behinde the enermy once..and they dident notice and there was loads of monks which i was gonna shoot with my CA, but for no reason what so ever, they decide to rout ?!? no enermy's around or any thing....it does meh head in.

NinjaKilla
06-28-2001, 01:46
Quote Originally posted by TheDarkElite:
yes, this rout bug, as ppl call it is doing my head in, as ive lost 3 CA in my stw life time..i was behinde the enermy once..and they dident notice and there was loads of monks which i was gonna shoot with my CA, but for no reason what so ever, they decide to rout ?!? no enermy's around or any thing....it does meh head in.[/QUOTE]

No I think they routed. You gotta pump the honour up on cav if you've gonna use them away from your main force.



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- Our girls fall for samurai and they'll go chasing after them.
- If the bandits come they'll cut our heads off. We'll worry about the girls later.

From: Seven Samurai